#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 41

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:50 PM

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or im downloading pirate stuff

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like windows activators

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Don't expect me to buy windows btw

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 3:53 PM

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Yep

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fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:53 PM

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that never happens to me tho

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 3:54 PM

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It never happens to me either

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Until just now

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:55 PM

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hmm

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weird

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 3:57 PM

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And now I don't have the API installed anymore because Steam updated everything to fix the missing executable

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Thanks, avg

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:58 PM

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lol

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delet avg

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use window's defender

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wait

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is that really avast?

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it doesnt look like avast at all

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 3:59 PM

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Technically no, I suppose

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:59 PM

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i think that's a different antivirus

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 3:59 PM

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Avg is a subsidiary of avast

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 3:59 PM

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ah

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okay

daring snow Dec 1, 2017, 4:56 PM

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I haven't used an antivirus in over a decade

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I also haven't gotten a virus in over a decade

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hollowlenny

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 4:58 PM

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also haven't been to shady websites in over a decade

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 4:59 PM

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shady websites get gone to in a linux VM on another machine

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when the need arises

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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Don't vms like take more space?

daring snow Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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kdubCSB

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they totally like do

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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why do i care about space?

daring snow Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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so much space kdubCSB

young walrus Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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b/c we live in space

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on earth

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hollowwoke

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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lol

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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my file server has 15Tb of space and 32Gb of memory

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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bcuz anti viruses are bloat ware that takes more space

young walrus Dec 1, 2017, 5:00 PM

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mickelPOY

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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so in turn

daring snow Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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lol

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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VMs take up more space?

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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I need to buy more storage

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fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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lol

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WOW

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u used a TERRABYTE

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what did u fill it with?

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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Games

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Mostly

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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ah

young walrus Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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a TB is easy to fill

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:01 PM

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And recordings

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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i always delet things i dont need

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i only have 500GB

young walrus Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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mickelPOY

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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Yeah but what if I need everything?

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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hmm

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ya that's a problem

young walrus Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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why drop items when you can simply increase the size of your back pack?

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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i have 2x1TB SSDs in my main rig, 1x2TB HDD. then the file server is 15TB and it's about half full

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:02 PM

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but that rarely ever happens

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you always have alot of garbage you need to clean from your PC

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unless u clean 24/7

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:03 PM

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and alot of it would be exceptionally time consuming to put back

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 5:06 PM

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i have 7-zip and i still use winrar smh

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:42 PM

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@rain cedar - so how do you feel about resharper?

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:43 PM

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I disagree with like half the defaults, need to configure it some more

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:43 PM

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haha

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:43 PM

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Seems cool, though

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:43 PM

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which defaults?

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the one I always change is it's default of using "var"

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i hate var

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:44 PM

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That and uppercase field names

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:44 PM

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oh, yeah, that's industry standard

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public fields are Upper case, private fields are _lowerCase

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:45 PM

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I usually only put uppercase on methods

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:46 PM

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yeah, just saying, if you look at pretty much any large OS project, that's the way they are done. which is why it's the default. at some point someone decided that's how it was ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but yeah, var is annoying. I think it leads to ambiguity as to what it is you're creating

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i used to love it when i was a baby programmer, but then found it made for really hard to maintain code

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:47 PM

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Yeah I've always hated stuff like that and auto in c++

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:47 PM

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though, sometimes what i'll do, for something like a dictionary is do this

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:48 PM

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Oh yeah speaking of dictionaries resharper keeps telling me to make them readonly

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Which is really dumb

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:48 PM

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var something = myMethod.GetDictionary();

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:48 PM

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Since that doesn't actually do anything

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:48 PM

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then do alt+enter on the var and have it switch it to the full declaration

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eh, it kind of does

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dictionaries are immutable

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so if it says it can be readonly, it means that it was only created in the constructor or only used in that method. making it readonly means you can't accidentally overwrite it

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it will always suggest readonly on anything where it finds it was only ever created in the constructor or changed so that you don't accidentally re-assign it later

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:52 PM

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I guess that makes sense

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:52 PM

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so, if you were already using the dictionary correctly, then yes, it does nothing

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it's mostly there so that you don't accidentally break it down the road

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i can't remember if VS vanilla does it, but on public methods/fields/classes, if you do /// above the method/field/class it'll automatically stub out xml docs for you

rain cedar Dec 1, 2017, 5:54 PM

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I could still break it by calling clear for no reason and that seems just as likely as randomly reassigning it

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 5:54 PM

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that is true 😃

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also, it has a built in decompiler. though dnspy's is vastly better, it is convenient if you don't have dnspy up at the time

ornate rivet Dec 1, 2017, 8:16 PM

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I see you are advertising on reddit now @buoyant obsidian

fair rampart Dec 1, 2017, 8:17 PM

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oMg

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PLAY LIGHTBRINGER

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 8:30 PM

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heh, reddit, i wish i had time for reddit

west wave Dec 1, 2017, 10:15 PM

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What is this lightbringer

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Also i dont even see how to get to the steam workshop for hollow knight

buoyant obsidian Dec 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

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There's no workshop for Hollow Knight

west wave Dec 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

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Yeah thats what i thought

buoyant obsidian Dec 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

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You can find mods in the pinned Google Drive folder

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or you can find my mods here: http://www.moddb.com/members/753-mods/mods

Mod DB

Mods - 753-mods

Browse and play mods created for 753-mods at Mod DB.

west wave Dec 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

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Neato

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Sorry, casual reporting in. No clue what anything is or how PC stuff works

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So thanks for the info

buoyant obsidian Dec 1, 2017, 10:17 PM

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It should be easy to install if you read the readme.txt

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 10:17 PM

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there's also a video talking about installing bossrush, but it basically applies to half the mods or more that are out there

west wave Dec 1, 2017, 10:18 PM

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As ashamed as i am to admit it, if its anything like Minecraft mods i know what im doing. Just put a file in a folder

buoyant wasp Dec 1, 2017, 10:18 PM

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basically, yes

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though we go the extra effort

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and put it all in a folder structure so it's just drag folder into game folder->win

west wave Dec 1, 2017, 10:18 PM

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Neato

noble trout Dec 1, 2017, 11:41 PM

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Guys i need your help?

📎 Screenshot_20171202-014055.png

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 12:17 AM

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well

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the text replacement would be pretty easy

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right to left, that'd take some investigation

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 12:21 AM

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as i said, it's a looooot of text tho

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 12:21 AM

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yeah, we're not talking about a small amount of translation here.

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i'll see if i can dump the english strings out to a file

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to give you an idea

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 12:26 AM

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i'm pretty interested in that as well

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 12:55 AM

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English Language Assets

📎 english.language.hk.xml

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took a bit

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since it's all carved up into like 35 files

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but here's a single unified XML

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there are 3504 different entries

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so

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have fun

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@fair rampart @noble trout

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still don't know how to do right to left text, and honestly unless someone actually starts translating in earnest, I'm not really going to look into it

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huh, neat, we could change the text speed if we wanted

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wouldn't be hard to put in a method to let you just skip the entire conversation...lol

buoyant obsidian Dec 2, 2017, 4:42 AM

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Object pools are evil

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I want to spawn lances but every 7th lance doesn't exist

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:46 AM

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welcome to our lives

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it's because 1 or 2 of every lance isn't in the pool

buoyant obsidian Dec 2, 2017, 4:49 AM

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yeah just kill me now

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there's a bug with recoloring them that newly instantiated lances don't get recolored for whatever reason

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and if they are recolored they cease to exist

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if (this.lance1 == null || this.lance2 == null)
        {
            this.lance1 = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>(this.grubberFlyBeamPrefabL);
            this.lance1.GetComponent<tk2dSprite>().color = new Color(0f, 0f, 1f, 1f);
            this.lance2 = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>(this.grubberFlyBeamPrefabL);
            this.lance2.GetComponent<tk2dSprite>().color = new Color(0f, 1f, 0f, 1f);
        }
        this.lance1.Spawn(this.transform.position);
        this.lance2.Spawn(this.transform.position + new Vector3(0f, 3f, 0f));

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 5:11 AM

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where are you calling that code?

buoyant obsidian Dec 2, 2017, 5:12 AM

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HeroController Attack()

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 5:14 AM

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you may need to fiddle with it in ObjectPool.Spawn

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 5:36 AM

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i had better luck with that and fireball, though not perfect luck

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it was still squirely

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 5:47 AM

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Hey folks, I'm new here and to modding in general - quick question; I've been trying to install the Randomizer API, but it just isn't working. I started by moving the 1.2.2.1 Modding API zip into the local files, and then the Randomizer API, yet the game isn't updating. Any ideas what's going on?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 5:53 AM

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you watch the video on installing boss rush?

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(it's the exact same thing to do randomizer as boss rush so the video directions apply)

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 5:59 AM

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I've done that yes, but unfortunately the mod doesn't seem installed. I do get this message in the top left though:

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buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 6:04 AM

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i don't think you installed randomizer correctly

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the XML shouldn't show as unknown

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my guess is you didn't copy all the files but only the dll, which won't work

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 6:06 AM

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Hmm alright, I just replaced the data folder with the API and then the Randomizer ones like the video showed, but I must have done something wrong. Currently verifying integrity of game files and will retry

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 6:06 AM

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you really didn't need to verify

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(now you have to reinstall both)

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so my guess is you just copied hollow_knight_data

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but didn't copy Randomizer

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 6:09 AM

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Ah, that was the problem. Thanks so much for your help! I don't know how I missed that, I must be quite tired.

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 6:09 AM

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no problem

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 6:09 AM

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Much appreciated!

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 6:09 AM

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what you should see is that both the randomizer and the xml have a version # next to them in the main menu

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 6:10 AM

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Yep, and I'm getting the Randomizer text as well. Everything seems to be in working order!

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 6:10 AM

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great 😃

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a word to the wise, if you're not a veteran, start with easy. the skill gap between easy and hard is rather large

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@rain cedar - when you redo the stuff in randomizer, probably do the same thing with the embedded resources that you did with the updated debug mod

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 6:51 AM

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RtL text isn't officially supported but theres scripts to fix it iirc
font isn't a real problem can just import another

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afaik theres no easy way to add additional pages to conversations

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 7:00 AM

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if i read this correctly

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pages are dynamic

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there is a massive function in TextMeshPro called GenerateTextMesh

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and it seems to overflow text for pages

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maybe

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 7:04 AM

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maybe

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 7:04 AM

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TMP apparently supports RTL

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        protected bool m_isRightToLeft;

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so, theoretically possible

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if someone goes through the pain of working through those 3400 entries

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though some of them are repeats and blanks

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I think we'd just need to hook into TextMeshPro's constructor

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or possible the awake function

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at some point when you're done with bossrush and more saves, I'd like a little help with adding a something to the main menu that we can enable/disable mods with that works with controller/kb/mouse

empty stratus Dec 2, 2017, 8:29 AM

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So wait. The .xml is all the text to the game that me and @noble trout need to translate?

thorn comet Dec 2, 2017, 8:39 AM

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Guys theres a bug with the Randomiser

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Its spelt Randomiser

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not Randomizer

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:40 AM

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Major bug

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:54 AM

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yeah pretty sure thats all the text, there is

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:54 AM

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is there a program to edit xml you know of

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and yes a ichecked its all the text

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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its just text

thorn comet Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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With the Randomiser, how do you have it so the bottom left UI with all your items/abilities shows?

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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playerdatatracker

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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you cant just write in it

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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https://github.com/iamwyza/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker

GitHub

iamwyza/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker

HollowKnightRandomizerTracker - Simple Randomizer Tracker for HollowKnight

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:55 AM

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i doesnt work by just writing on it

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:56 AM

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it should just work you can open the xml in any text editor

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its not a special file format

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:56 AM

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also stuff like "<entry name="DUNG_DEFENDER_TITLE">" i do not change right

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:56 AM

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yeah that stays as is

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:56 AM

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ok just checked

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:56 AM

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just the stuff between <entry name ="whatever"> and </entry>

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also I'm not sure how well it works for hebrew, but for every other language major characters are just translated phonetically afaik

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:59 AM

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so i dont change that marked part

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thorn comet Dec 2, 2017, 8:59 AM

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With the Player Data Tracker, just drag the hollow_knight_Data in the Hollow Knight folder?

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 8:59 AM

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but i do change this

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leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 8:59 AM

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yeah you'd just changed the Honour part

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 9:00 AM

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ok thanks

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 9:00 AM

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entry name="HOLLOW_KNIGHT_MAIN">ホーローナイト</entry>

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is what it looks like for japanese for instance

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theres detailed instructions on the github I linked @thorn comet hollowface

empty stratus Dec 2, 2017, 9:20 AM

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Thanks a lot !@KDT#7539

thorn comet Dec 2, 2017, 9:28 AM

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Got it working I think, thanks

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will play shortly haha

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 9:31 AM

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guys i need sugestions do i call the hollow knight by the object name (refer to it as an empty knight) or by a name (write it how its heard)

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 9:34 AM

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latter for hollow knight

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most others like watcher knights is what it is

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 9:47 AM

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do i change those stuff

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noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 10:08 AM

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there is an achievement named protected wtf is it?

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i mean i translated it but im still dont know

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wait never mind

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its the collector's right?

spice niche Dec 2, 2017, 10:09 AM

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Protected is getting 4 mask shards

noble trout Dec 2, 2017, 10:22 AM

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oh

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 11:18 AM

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Thanks @buoyant wasp!

leaden hedge Dec 2, 2017, 12:05 PM

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@buoyant wasp I'm going be out today, but tomorrow I can probably do most of it, if you do a mockup later today for what you want

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 1:05 PM

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yeah if I wanna translate this i'm probably gonna have to grab a team together because shieet it's a lot

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 1:43 PM

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@buoyant wasp Save specific settings does not work with anything but the 4 dicts already in it by default

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I can just use the string dict instead for this but still would be cool to be able to add my own like with global settings

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Also minor nitpick: I feel like IsCurrent should default to true if it's not implemented

empty stratus Dec 2, 2017, 3:27 PM

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it makes sense that all the text is 3500 lines?

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 3:28 PM

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yeah but it's still a ton

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because those are just the lines

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not to mention all the friggin' sentences and words you gotta translate while keeping the context

empty stratus Dec 2, 2017, 3:32 PM

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yeah i know. but i dont worry a lot im a translator for 4 years now so it will be fun to try translating a game for once

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:09 PM

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how to download boss rush?

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 4:12 PM

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u go to the google drive

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(in pinnd messages)

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and u download it

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:12 PM

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ok

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 4:12 PM

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but first

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:12 PM

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thx

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 4:12 PM

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u download the API for whichever version u r using

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you put that in the game first

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then u put the bossrush mode in teh area recommended

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:13 PM

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API?

fair rampart Dec 2, 2017, 4:13 PM

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there's a vid in pinned messages i think

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:13 PM

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ok

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cant find the api

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:20 PM

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watch the video

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:20 PM

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its not in the google drive for me

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 4:21 PM

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📎 41e0e78aebc17b5c167f43ec47be3d5e.png

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:21 PM

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found it

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:21 PM

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@rain cedar - is it a field or a property?

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it has to be a field

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and if it is a field try adding [SerializeField]

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:22 PM

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1221 is the newest version right?

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 4:22 PM

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Nah Wyza I looked in the dll with dnspy

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You're using a SetSettings function that just explicitly sets those 4 dicts

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:22 PM

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@toxic valley - you want the one that matches your game version

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:23 PM

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i have the newest one i think

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i havent changed it

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:23 PM

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then yes, 1.2.2.1

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:23 PM

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ok thanks

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:23 PM

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oooh, right, forgot that that gets called after the saves are loaded

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so assuming you havent already figured it out, you could do:

public new SetSettings(MyModSettings incomming) {
    MyCustomDictionary = incomming.MyCustomDiciontary;
    base.SetSettings(incomming);
}

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 4:27 PM

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Alright

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Don't care enough to switch from just using the string dictionary already there right now

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Maybe later when that ends up not working

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:28 PM

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boss rush mod is only 1214 should i change my version?

dapper folio Dec 2, 2017, 4:28 PM

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Charm Notch Mod, last updated oct 26
Randomizer, oct 28
Nightmare God Grimm, oct 31
Blackmoth, nov 10
Player Data Tracker, nov 11
Glass Soul, nov 14
Scale Mod, nov 17
More Saves, nov 17
Bonfire, nov 22
Lightbringer, nov 23
Debug, nov 28
Modding API, nov 28
Boss Rush, dec 12

what needs updating?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:28 PM

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@toxic valley nope it'll work

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:28 PM

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ok

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:29 PM

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though really use the most recent one from KDT here

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click on search

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and do From: kdt has:file

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dunno that he posted that to the drive yet

dapper folio Dec 2, 2017, 4:30 PM

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he doesn't post to the drive, but that answers my question with bossrush

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:34 PM

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my save file started like normal 😦

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:35 PM

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look in the upper right corner in the main menu

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or in the pause menu

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should show version information on the mods if you installed right

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:35 PM

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nothing there

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:35 PM

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then you didn't install right 😃

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:35 PM

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i did exactly as in teh video

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wot

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:38 PM

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I'd stay to help, but i gotta run so i can get back in time for the race.

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:38 PM

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im trying again

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 4:38 PM

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hopefully one of the other kind souls can help out

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 4:39 PM

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ok

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now i cant even start the game

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rip

timber gale Dec 2, 2017, 5:10 PM

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@leaden hedge Flukes don't despawn in boss rush after flukemum is killed, can kill you after she's killed and break the whole game if you don't select item quickly enough

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 5:13 PM

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Not my problem
-KDT 2017

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 5:34 PM

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the latest version makes you invincible after you kill the bosses

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unless you found a bug

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@toxic valley - any luck?

jade lotus Dec 2, 2017, 6:00 PM

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is Unity Studio constantly crashing a normal occurance, or do I need to uptade some libraries?

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 6:02 PM

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Nah that's normal

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It dies when looking at certain assets

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@buoyant wasp Just remembering this now but I noticed a while back that Constants.GAME_VERSION is a thing

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So you could grab that automatically for the api

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 7:48 PM

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i had to go but steam wouldnt start so i think that was the problem

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not the mod, steam

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PERFECT

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:09 PM

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this time i am 100% sure i did as in the video

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but i only got modding api

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wtf is wrong with my game

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:10 PM

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Send the file ModLog.txt from your save directory here

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:11 PM

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in discord?

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:11 PM

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Yes

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:11 PM

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where is it?

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there is almost 1000 files

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:12 PM

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Saves are at appdata/locallow/team cherry/hollow knight

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:12 PM

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%appdata%\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:12 PM

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oh that directory

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i was in the steam directory

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i dont have a locallow ;_;

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;-;

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:14 PM

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%appdata% brings you to appdata/roaming

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Go up a directory

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:14 PM

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oh, didn't realize it went to roaming

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my bad

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:14 PM

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ok thx

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📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:15 PM

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What the heck is Modding.Loggable?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:16 PM

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abstract class you can stick on any class you want that gives you access to the logger like Mod does

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:16 PM

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dont ask me

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:16 PM

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i guess kdt used the most recent API

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hah

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:16 PM

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Alright

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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i didn't know he was already using that

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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i downloaded the newest version that wasnt there last time

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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yeah, sec

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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You can't use the API from the drive, then

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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for the right version

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1221

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should i try the other one?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:17 PM

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Try this

📎 ModdingAPI.zip

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:18 PM

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but the api worked

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:18 PM

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yes, but bossrush is using a newer version of the api

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:18 PM

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it was boss rush that wasnt showing up

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ok

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done

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:19 PM

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now load it up, you should be good

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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it wokrs

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and hollow knight isnt tabbing out in that annoying way anymore hollowwow

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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yes

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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but my save file is gone

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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not really

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it's still there

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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ok

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puh

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:20 PM

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but boss rush isn't designed to save

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so it hides all saves

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:21 PM

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sadgrub

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puh

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:21 PM

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if you were to go and remove the boss rush mod (or stick it in a folder called "disabled" in the mods folder) your saves would return

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 8:21 PM

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good

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:22 PM

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guess i'm gonna update the drive since BR is using the new stuff

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oh, hmm,

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there, drive updated with 1.2.2.1-23.

cedar raven Dec 2, 2017, 8:37 PM

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any major update from -22?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:37 PM

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the only change is that mods won't show as "New Version Available" for mods that aren't doing automatic version checking. Before if the mod didn't implement that functionality, it'd perpetually say a new version was available even when it wasn't

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@rain cedar - are you still using all the same names in the string dictionary? (gotCharm_#, fireballLevel#, hasDreamNail, etc)

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:39 PM

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No I'm using the names from the XML

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Shade Soul, Mothwing Cloak, etc

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:40 PM

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ah, k

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right now we're sending it over via the SetPlayerBoolHook, which I believe, the value at that point is the "vanilla" item, and then translating that into whatever the actual one is

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:43 PM

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I can't really make it use the internal names without changing how a lot of stuff works

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 8:43 PM

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yeah

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 8:44 PM

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You'll probably just have to build a dictionary of item name->playerdata var

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Shouldn't be too hard

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 9:14 PM

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boss rush is so ez

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when i take damage i only actually lose a mask like 1/3 of the time

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and i deal increbible amount of damage

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is it glitched or is it supposed to be this easy?

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:17 PM

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If you picked up something that gives more health the extra is invisible

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And for damage you probably just got lucky

toxic valley Dec 2, 2017, 9:18 PM

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i think i got one

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and fragile hearts maybe

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i dont even have to try

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just go as close as possible and spam if i have quick slash

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and then i win in like 30 sec

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Yeah, quick slash is good

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:23 PM

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there can be harder seeds, i had one where i had no nail upgrades, no quickslash, no spells for the first like 10 bosses

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 9:27 PM

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Hey all, I was running the randomizer mod and I think I may have hardlocked myself? Looking to either report this for future debugging or get some advice on how to leave the area. I'm currently located at the Lake of Unn bench, with only Isma's Tear and Crystal Heart in terms of movement abilities. I am unable to proceed to Unn due to a lack of Mantis Claw and I cannot exit the Hornet 1 boss room without Mothwing Cloak or Mantis Claw. This would likely be doable with the reverse Vengeful Spirit skip (I've very close!) but the randomizer gave me Desolate Dive instead of Vengeful Spirit from Snail Shaman, leaving me somewhat without mobility. Any ideas?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:29 PM

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amusing thing, someone else just found that same thing like, an hour ago

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:30 PM

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I didn't even know there was a bench there

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 9:30 PM

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I see! Have they figured out a way to cheese an exit, or is it in fact a hardlock?

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:30 PM

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no, you're stuck i'm pretty sure

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:31 PM

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With Isma's you might be able to get out

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Probably not

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:32 PM

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probably just remove that bench in the next version 😃

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 9:33 PM

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Without Isma's Tear I'd be able to Shade Pogo out of the pit, but since I have it and the room has no enemies I'm effectively stuck @rain cedar

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Well, that certainly was a hilarious run (I've managed to get to every area sans Deepnest through absolutely convoluted manners, even by speedrunning standards) without Vengeful Spirit or any real mobility, but I'm looking forward to my next run!

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:35 PM

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Just be careful where you sit at benches

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Feels like half the benches in the game can get you stuck

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:36 PM

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there's the unn one, and also the nail master one

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unless you removed that

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(if you don't have CH

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:36 PM

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Nah not yet

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Pretty low priority as far as I'm concerned

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No reason to even go to great slash

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:36 PM

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not yet 😃

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 9:37 PM

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By the way, is there a file that lists all the random locations? When I started the run it asked me if I wanted to document it (which I agreed to) but I haven't been able to find any log.

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I'd be interested to see how close I was to opening up a lot of the unlocks

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:38 PM

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The log is in the save folder

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But it gets reset every game launch

buoyant wasp Dec 2, 2017, 9:38 PM

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is the most recent version the 11:40AM one?

rain cedar Dec 2, 2017, 9:39 PM

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Assuming you mean the 9:40 one yes

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Ciplax is playing it now and he's got some weird bug with doubled audio

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But I have no idea what could possibly cause that

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Seems unlikely it's a vanilla bug since nobody has had it before

distant vale Dec 2, 2017, 9:43 PM

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Ahh! Vengeful Spirit was in the place of Grubsong! This hardlock is clearly karma for not being helpful enough for the cute little grubs! That would have prevented my lock!

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 1:22 AM

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If there's such a huge issue with stuck benches, why not have a return-to-dirtmouth shortcut?

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or would that be too anti-speedrunner

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 1:25 AM

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It's too abusable

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That would be an OP button

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 1:27 AM

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^

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and honestly, we're slowly killing the bad benches anyway

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 1:28 AM

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inb4 benchless

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:46 AM

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In Randomizer, can you get Shade Soul without Vengeful Spirit?

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:48 AM

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No. It's an integer

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In base game it's not, but in rando it is

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Wondering because .xml file always list requirements like ("Vengeful Spirit" | "Shade Soul")

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And ("Mothwing Cloak" | "Shade Cloak") etc.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Because when you get one of those, it gives you lvl 1

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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because if you have shade cloak, you don't have mothwing cloak

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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But picking up either counts

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The game can put either at a location

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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^

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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So.... Cloak1 could be super unavailable

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Ya, but for the .xml file it doesnt really matter.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:50 AM

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But cloak2 could be put somewhere available

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Since they're different pick ups, you have to account for both

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Even though they both give cloak 1 when picked up

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:51 AM

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Yes, they are 2 distinct entries.

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But as a requirement, they are the same.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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If you only have cloak 1 in the rando XML, then cloak 2 won't be included in the logic, limiting the locations cloak 1 could be

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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You would have both.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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Does it matter in the end? Probably not, but this way, it requires one of the two to be placed in a location that couldn't softlock you

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:53 AM

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The only thing it changes is the readability of the .xml file.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:53 AM

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It'll change the randomization

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Bc like I said, you have to change how the pickups work in rando, since they are now integers instead of discreet pickups. In vanilla, if you could get to shade cloak before cloak, it'd give shade cloak but in rando you'd get cloak. The vanilla game items don't know that though, so you account for that by including both levels in the base requirement

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:55 AM

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What Im suggesting in a way is adding a basic variable/substitute system in the xml.

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 1:56 AM

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It already kinda has that with the keyitems thing, you just can't have arbitrarily named sets

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I'd like to do that at some point

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:56 AM

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Ex: CharmAttack = "Grubberfly's Elegy" | "Glowing Womb" | "Spore Shroom" | "Weaversong"

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And in the case I was talking about, BallSpell = "Vengeful Spirit" | "Shade Soul"

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 1:57 AM

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I see what you're saying now.

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 1:57 AM

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But tbh, considering the xml wont really change over time, its probably useless..

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I guess everything with CLASSIC means it require shade skip?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 1:59 AM

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Oh

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I completely forgot to parse that in the code

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But yes

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That's what it's supposed to be

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 2:05 AM

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btw, i'm gonna have a pull request for the rando mod

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came up with a vastly better approach to dealing with the values...in the tracker...i think

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 2:06 AM

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Cool

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 2:09 AM

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basically, for the 2 Set functions, I added what are basically copies of SetPlayerBoolHook and SetPlayerIntHook in Randomizer.cs. Then the tracker can subscribe to those instead of the ones in ModHooks.Instance. and then instead of having to translate everything, the tracker should just get whatever is actually set by the randomizer and we don't have to reverse the randomization to figure out what was set. From the tracker's point of view, it won't care if it's a rando seed or not.

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basically adds like 20 lines of code in rando mod and removes 150-200 lines of code in the tracker

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 2:10 AM

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Sounds good

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 2:21 AM

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What does the tracker do?

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 2:21 AM

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it's the overlay for streamers

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it's in the pins

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 2:21 AM

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Ah ok.

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Ive been thinking about creating a randomizer helper.

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 2:22 AM

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it's on the list of things to add 😃

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though as far as i know, we were only going to add it in easy mode

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 2:24 AM

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Well, my helper would work all the time XD

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 2:24 AM

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yeah....and that kind of makes half of the randomizer pointless

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i mean, if you can just plugin what you have, and it spit out where you should go....why bother playing?

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 2:26 AM

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When youre stuck.

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Or for beginners.

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For learning too. Im sure not everyone knows about all the shade skip needed.

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The tool wont use the seed. Thatd be cheating.

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 2:30 AM

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How are you gonna make something that tells you where to go without that?

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 2:30 AM

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You say what you got, it says what items are accessible.

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 3:06 AM

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hmmm, need to implement a way to do mod ordering

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 3:52 AM

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If someone wants to do a test run of this who uses the overlay and randomizer, that'd be great. Install wise, normal procedures (this is API 1.2.2.1-24, Randomizer 1.5.0, PlayerDataTracker 2.4.0). Install Randomizer 1.4.0 first to get the latest XML.

you can put TrackerOverlay wherever you want, but then change your tracker url in OBS from https://iamwyza.github.io/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker/Index.html?profile=1 to file:///c:/wherever/you/stuck/TrackerOverlay/Index.html?profile=1

📎 Prototype.zip

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for modders, there's now a method you can override called LoadPriority which is an int return. so you can weight when a mod gets the Initialize method called compared to other mods. By default the mods all have the same priority (1). Useful when, like me, I needed to make sure that Randomizer was loaded before the PlayerDataDumper 😃

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 5:50 AM

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@leaden hedge , as far as mockup goes, was just thinking something on the first menu, on the right that lists the mods, with an icon that is, say, infection orange, when the mod is enabled, and grey when it's disabled. if the mod doesn't support disabling it needs to be unclickable or something that shows that you can't turn it off.

compact sorrel Dec 3, 2017, 6:02 AM

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Reposting from #hk-discussion
Is there anyone who knows how to export spritesheet using Unity Asset Extractor?
I need Grimm Troupe NPC's animation spritesheets for Lazy Moonkin's next track
Because i can't find any spritesheets with "texture" file type.

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Also, It would be awesome if someone had the spritesheets themselves (i need the grimm troupe inside-tent texture too)

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 6:27 AM

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@buoyant obsidian can probably help

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 6:28 AM

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I like your work, I'll help out

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If you want to learn how to do it yourself, download Unity Studio:

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https://github.com/Perfare/UnityStudio/releases

GitHub

Perfare/UnityStudio

UnityStudio - Unity Studio is a tool for exploring, extracting and exporting assets from Unity games and apps.

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I'll PM you the sprites in a sec tho

compact sorrel Dec 3, 2017, 6:37 AM

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@buoyant obsidian ❤

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 6:40 AM

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If only I had Discord Nitro

compact sorrel Dec 3, 2017, 6:40 AM

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Wow, UnityStudio is like a WAY better then UAE

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 6:41 AM

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It crashes a lot though

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but yeah it's infinitely better for exporting

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Everything you want is probably named Atlas0

compact sorrel Dec 3, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Yea, i've already found it, thanks!

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 6:49 AM

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=14DrKN7v_GQAkMlHM-3H2b8ezR-XpMBLG

Google Docs

grimm.zip

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@compact sorrel there's a .zip of Grimm textures, just in case you missed anything. It can be hard to find everything sometimes.

compact sorrel Dec 3, 2017, 6:50 AM

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Appreciated

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 6:57 AM

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if i understand correctly, the sprite sheets just randomly change each build right?

buoyant obsidian Dec 3, 2017, 6:57 AM

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They have a tendency to at times

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Some have remained constant but the big ones that keep changing are charms and art assets for like rocks / walls / etc

noble trout Dec 3, 2017, 9:17 AM

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guys how the fuck do i translate the archives

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what kind of code is that

cedar raven Dec 3, 2017, 10:57 AM

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@leaden hedge no rewards option appeared after THK for boss rush, but apparently i can skip it

rotund surge Dec 3, 2017, 12:09 PM

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hello?

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so i installed the bosh rush mod but dont know how to start the boss rush

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also all my saves are gone

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can anyone help me out lol

leaden hedge Dec 3, 2017, 12:16 PM

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just start a new save

rotund surge Dec 3, 2017, 12:45 PM

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ah thanks it just worked now

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 12:47 PM

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if you're worried about saves

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C:\Users\[Username]\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight

rotund surge Dec 3, 2017, 12:54 PM

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thanks guys, but is it supposed to be different from the one used in this video?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCwyu0b8dE&t=400s

YouTube

Sean Riley

Hollow Knight boss rush mod speedrun 35:46

12:08 actual boss fighting time from adding up the times in the credits. Credit to KeinZantezuken for making this awesome mod. No public download link for it...

▶ Play video

leaden hedge Dec 3, 2017, 12:54 PM

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yes

toxic valley Dec 3, 2017, 2:32 PM

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rip cant complete radiance cuz i had no monarch wings 😥

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pls send hlep

leaden hedge Dec 3, 2017, 3:15 PM

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pickup monarch wings

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 3:56 PM

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@rain cedar There's a typo in the randomizer.xml. Line 330 <requirements>"Mothwing Cloak" | "Shade Cloak" | ("Mantis Claw + "Crystal Heart")</requirements>

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"Mantis Claw + "Crystal Heart"

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Missing double quote.

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 3:56 PM

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Oh I'm surprised that even runs

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There were a couple others I caught because it broke completely

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 3:59 PM

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There are 15 upgrade/items that affects what is accessible.

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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What does <requirements>KEYITEMS</requirements> means?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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Top of the xml

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 4:53 PM

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?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 4:53 PM

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There's a keyitems tag

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It's that

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 4:53 PM

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<name>Quick Focus</name> has <requirements>KEYITEMS</requirements>

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 4:54 PM

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    <item>"Mothwing Cloak"</item>
    <item>"Shade Cloak"</item>
    <item>"Mantis Claw"</item>
    <item>"Monarch Wings"</item>
    <item>"Isma's Tear"</item>
    <item>"Crystal Heart"</item>
    <item>"Dream Nail" | "Awoken Dream Nail" | "Dream Gate"</item>
    <item>"Howling Wraiths" | "Abyss Shriek"</item>
    <item>"Desolate Dive" | "Descending Dark"</item>
    <item>"Vengeful Spirit" | "Shade Soul"</item>
</keyitems>```

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 4:54 PM

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So it requires owning everything?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 4:54 PM

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Yeah basically

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It's because quick focus is a shitty item to have to buy early on

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So I'm just making it never be necessary

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 4:55 PM

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Ah

surreal helm Dec 3, 2017, 5:51 PM

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god damn in my hollow knight game i fought the collector as the last boss to 100% the game so i had everything upgraded and it was so easy

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in boss rush he is a lot scarier

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same for nosk

dapper folio Dec 3, 2017, 6:06 PM

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yep, you'll find the same thing with HK if you had all the upgrades when you fought him before

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 6:29 PM

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@buoyant wasp Not seeing the Randomizer 1.5 code changes on github

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 6:29 PM

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haven't pushed them yet

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wanted to see if it broke stuff

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 6:29 PM

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Alright

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 6:29 PM

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was hoping someone last night would have time for a rando run and do that hollowface

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 6:31 PM

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What all did you change? I want to be sure we don't end up with conflicting branches

buoyant wasp Dec 3, 2017, 6:31 PM

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sec, i'll do a PR now so you can see

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there

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 6:33 PM

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Thanks

tranquil glen Dec 3, 2017, 8:01 PM

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does randomizer include weapon upgrades? like you could get a nail upgrade instead of mothwing cloak or if you went to upgrade your nail you could get a charm?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 8:02 PM

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No, that would be terrible

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The 3rd and 4th nail upgrade are too time consuming to get

tranquil glen Dec 3, 2017, 8:02 PM

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makes sense

bold edge Dec 3, 2017, 8:04 PM

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Hey i'm having trouble installing the bonfire mod, I did everything the read me told me to do, i replaced everything i needed to, i even deleted my save files, and my game still crashes, anyone got any tips?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 8:05 PM

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Not sure that's up to date for 1.2.2.1

bold edge Dec 3, 2017, 8:06 PM

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i've seen people play it with 1.2.2.1

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 8:06 PM

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Did you install the correct API version?

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I think it was done being ported to API

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 8:07 PM

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Idk haven't seen gradow in here in a while

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 8:07 PM

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Me neither

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He said he was taking a break for something I think

bold edge Dec 3, 2017, 8:10 PM

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well nvm, the video i saw was 1.2.1.4

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 8:49 PM

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having trouble with installing randomizer

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hollow knight will not boot up.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 8:57 PM

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Did you install the API?

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There's a video in pinned messages that goes over MOD installing for API mods too. Just exchange rando for boss rush

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 8:58 PM

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I did install the modding api

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I merged the randomiser hollow knight data folder with the modding api one

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 8:59 PM

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What version of the game do you have

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And what API version did you download

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 8:59 PM

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the latest patch

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 9:00 PM

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Steam? GOG? Mac?

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 9:00 PM

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Steam

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fedora linux

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 9:00 PM

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I don't think it works on Linux

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 9:01 PM

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oh, that would explain it.

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uh thanks, i guess.

young walrus Dec 3, 2017, 9:01 PM

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Would need one of the modders to confirm

fair rampart Dec 3, 2017, 9:01 PM

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I think its worth trying it out on windows.

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 10:13 PM

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@rain cedar I just got Shade Cloak on Randomizer and it did a hard save there.

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 10:15 PM

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You've got the one from #races-discussion, right? I haven't updated the drive because there's a couple problems with it

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 10:15 PM

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Ah, you updated it

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 10:15 PM

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Not super recently

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I just mean the one from before the race

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 10:16 PM

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Is the link pinned?

rain cedar Dec 3, 2017, 10:16 PM

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No

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Wyza did his own update of the randomizer for compatibility with the tracker, though

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That should be not too far up in this channel

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Or just search from:wyza has:file

slate owl Dec 3, 2017, 10:20 PM

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Not sure which one is it

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Ill use the one you posted.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 12:17 AM

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@fair rampart - The linux game is compiled with different stuff than what the windows dlls have, so pretty much no mods work with it as far as we know.

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 12:17 AM

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@wyza thansk

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i got it to work anyway

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just loaded up good old buggy windows 7

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 12:37 AM

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@rain cedar is there a way to respawn a grub?

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 12:37 AM

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Not any easy way, no

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 12:37 AM

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k

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 2:16 AM

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Yo, I can't seem to get the rando mod to work. I put it in the mods folder of the API, but it doesn't seem to want to work.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 2:34 AM

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what does the upper left hand corner say?

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in game

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 2:36 AM

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grimm

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do you have the randomiser folder next to hollow knight data in the hollow knight folder?

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Nothing. And no, I don't. I figured it had to go in the mods folder of the API.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 2:37 AM

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if there is nothing, then the api isn't installed

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 2:38 AM

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I think wyza should handle this.

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 2:39 AM

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I unloaded all of the files of the api. I'm also not seeing an install executable.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 2:39 AM

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there is no install

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go watch the video on how to install bossrush

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it's the same steps

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 2:39 AM

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yeah

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just put the randomiser folder near hollow knight data

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and your fine

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Thanks, dudes.

red thicket Dec 4, 2017, 7:59 AM

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anyone here know how i can get the boss rush mod to work?

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not really sure how to set it up, thanks!

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 8:02 AM

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There's a guide in the pinned messages @red thicket 😄

red thicket Dec 4, 2017, 8:02 AM

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Perfect, thanks!

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 8:02 AM

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No problem! omggrub

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Have fun!

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 9:29 AM

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guys i have done most of the main menu is there a way i can send you the file and you will make it so i can see how it looks like?

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 9:36 AM

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For translation?

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It's kinda late now but tomorrow I can make a simple mod for changing language strings

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 9:50 AM

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Did teamcherry end up getting back to you Fuzzy? Just curious

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:14 AM

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yes they did they told as they are very busy and cant get into helping fan translation and to message the modding channel for the language script

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i can screen cap if you want

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you know what i hate? the fact that i dont have a cool word for vessel in hebrew

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the only translation means pot

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like a flower pot

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you are the pot

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you are the hollow knight

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:21 AM

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you are the pot

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kek

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:21 AM

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you see what i mean

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it just doesnt feel right

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:21 AM

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i attempted at translating it in dutch, so i know your struggle

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if i do wanna continue, i'll need the help of some friends

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like, at least 4

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:22 AM

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do someone know a program that lets you and your friend work on a file from the same time without overwriting each other?

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:22 AM

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mostly because context is heavily the main problem

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uhh

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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I take your word for it Fuzzy no need to screencap it 😄

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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you could try an SVN

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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Was just curious

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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but, well, maybe a Google Docs is better

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because you can write that in real time

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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can we work on google docs in the same time?

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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yep!

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:23 AM

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oh

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:24 AM

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it's pretty great

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 10:24 AM

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but i dont think google docs support the translation program me and my friends are using

royal ridge Dec 4, 2017, 10:24 AM

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Yeah itis

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 10:24 AM

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i've got a doc with classmates where we make notes at the same time

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oh you're using a translation program? yeah that makes things harder

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then again. you work with a .xml file right

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you can just convert it to .txt

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smash it in a google doc

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and copy-paste-done it back in if you're done

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but yeah, it's a ton of work, i highly underestimated it

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then again. translating is a work of love

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 2:04 PM

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We are working with .ass and .txt files.

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 2:05 PM

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wut, both?

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 2:11 PM

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We are translating in .ass files and then convert it to .txt files to convert it to .xml file for the game.

fair rampart Dec 4, 2017, 2:14 PM

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uh

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i thought you could also translate in .txt

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after all the .xml file is just text

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 2:43 PM

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I can but the program I'm using is in .ass files.

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I translated for 4 years in it so I am not going to change it lol

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 3:46 PM

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Yo, what's the randomizer mod actually do?

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 3:48 PM

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randomize

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 3:48 PM

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randomize what?

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 3:48 PM

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charms, spells, skills

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 3:49 PM

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after you collect them, or where you collect them?

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 3:49 PM

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where they are collected

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 3:49 PM

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ok, thanks.

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 3:50 PM

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@buoyant wasp would something like https://gfycat.com/OddballUntidyAnemone this be fine hollowface

Gfycat

modMenu

▶ Play video

humble sinew Dec 4, 2017, 3:50 PM

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You could try and get Shade cloak and get Deep Focus

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 3:56 PM

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Dunno if you've been told yet either, but Hard mode is.... hard. speedrunning skips/tech most likely required

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 4:11 PM

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wow, yes, that'd be amazing

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 4:13 PM

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could also probably use this for randomizer, so you don't have to click

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 4:14 PM

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yeah, i had that thought too

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 4:37 PM

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you can see what I've already got working here https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-modloader/blob/master/src/ModLoader.cs

GitHub

KayDeeTee/hk-modloader

hk-modloader - some stuff

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although if you wanted something that you could press left / right on, you'd need to make a copy of a MenuOptionHorizontal instead of MenuButton

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 4:54 PM

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neat

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it's a start anyway

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 4:59 PM

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In the randomizer mod, do the fireball and dash stay in the same place? Or did I mess something up again?

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 4:59 PM

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did you enable it?

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 5:00 PM

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^

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 5:00 PM

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should have been a button below normal / steel soul on save mode select

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 5:00 PM

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^^

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There's a big "Randomizer: OFF" thing

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you have to click it

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:08 PM

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I don't see that.

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 5:09 PM

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then the mod isn't installed correctly

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:09 PM

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shit.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:09 PM

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upper left hand corner should say modding-api 1.2.2.1-##, and randomizermod 1.4.0 (xml version 1.#.#)

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the main menu should have a giant "randomizer" logo on it

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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I see the upper left stuff

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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and the new game screen should have a big randomizer button that when clicked says "off/easy/hard"

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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Wait, no. It says Randomizer is version 1.3.1

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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have you beat the game?

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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103%

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:10 PM

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well, 1.3.1 is fine too

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:11 PM

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It just says the thing in the upper left. No randomizer button. Classic or Steel Soul modes are the only ones available

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:12 PM

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you probably didn't put the Randomizer folder next to Hollow_knight_data

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(which i have no idea how that is possible since the zip file contains the entire structure to just drag/drop)

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:12 PM

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I did that, and it replaced the thingy.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:13 PM

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what does your game's root folder look like

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screenshot

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:13 PM

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that's the C-Sharp folder, right?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:13 PM

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nope

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the one 2 levels above that

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where "hollow knight.exe" is at

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:15 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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The bit under the highlighted one?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:15 PM

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yeah, you didn't install right. inside the randomizer zip there are 2 folders. you should have copied them both into the directory you're currently in

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one is hollow_knight_data, and one is called "Randomizer"

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Like that?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:17 PM

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yup

swift python Dec 4, 2017, 5:17 PM

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Cool. Attempt number two!

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📎 unknown.png

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It worked!! Thank you.

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 5:19 PM

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np

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 7:02 PM

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i think main menu is done

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also is there a modder that will want to help me privatly instead of me messaging the whole channel again and again?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:24 PM

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sean already said he'd help with a mod to do that, though usually this is still the best place as far as general stuff about this, since it's going to help others potentially

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really what it's going to end up being probably is a mod that will read from an XML file, and you can just update the XML file at will and you won't have to do alot of back and forth

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as far as collaborative editing, there is stuff like this that might work better for the XML files: https://codeshare.io/

noble trout Dec 4, 2017, 7:37 PM

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Yeah that is what i thought

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 7:55 PM

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how do i install the scale mod?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:56 PM

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just download the zip, and extract it into the root folder for the game

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(assuming he put the folders right)

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note that the scale mod only works with 1.2.2.1 and won't work with any other mod

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@buoyant obsidian can say more

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 7:57 PM

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is in the Managed Folder?

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it says that i need to replace file

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:58 PM

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basically you need to overwrite Assembly-Csharp.dll

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 7:58 PM

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ok

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thank you

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:58 PM

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np

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to uninstall you'll just need to go into steam and tell it to verify the game files

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and it'll restore the game back to vanilla

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 7:58 PM

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ok

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oh wait

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my hollow knight is not 1.2.2.1

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:59 PM

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won't work then

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 7:59 PM

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its 1.2.1.0

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 7:59 PM

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1.2.2.1 windows only

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 8:04 PM

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do you thinking making a copy of Assembly-Csharp can work?because my hollow knight is not original,i gonna save a vanilla Assembly-Csharp and when i want to go back to vanilla,i can just overwrite the modded one

buoyant obsidian Dec 4, 2017, 8:05 PM

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...what?

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 8:07 PM

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modding a pirated copy...... kek.

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nice meme

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 8:08 PM

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it may work

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xD

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 8:10 PM

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more addressing the pirated part of that....

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it's $10

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on sale, all the time

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just get a legit version

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if money is that tight, do a favor for someone, or mow a lawn, or something. the devs of this masterpiece deserve the money 1000%

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 8:12 PM

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Yeah, we're not going to help you with modding a non-owned version of the game

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 8:12 PM

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^

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 8:14 PM

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if you give me $20 ill help you

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 8:14 PM

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kek

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 8:15 PM

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which basically amounts to "i'll go buy the game for 10$, send the key to you and pocket the 10$ as S&H" ? hollowlenny

buoyant obsidian Dec 4, 2017, 8:19 PM

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I'll help for $15

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 8:21 PM

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$14.50

exotic venture Dec 4, 2017, 8:24 PM

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$14.25

winter basin Dec 4, 2017, 8:28 PM

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it worked

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: )

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thanks for the help

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 9:08 PM

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Just from curiosity. In what programming language is the game built?

hazy sentinel Dec 4, 2017, 9:09 PM

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fsm intenseface

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C# iirc

copper nacelle Dec 4, 2017, 9:10 PM

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yea, it's c#

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:12 PM

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mostly c#

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but not all of it

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the FSM stuff is....something else

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and actually "mostly" might not even be the right way to look at it

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there is alot of c#, but the FSM stuff controls a crapton of things too

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 9:13 PM

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the fsm is c# 🤔

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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really?

copper nacelle Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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FSM is pain

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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Oh cool.

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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yes, its serialized methods + parameters

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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Today I started to read my c# book

buoyant obsidian Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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C# is so vast

copper nacelle Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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it's built entirely out of pure pain

hazy sentinel Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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programming books 🤔

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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FSM is definitely pain

copper nacelle Dec 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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the fsms

empty stratus Dec 4, 2017, 9:15 PM

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@hazy sentinel yeah like the old fashioned way.

copper nacelle Dec 4, 2017, 9:15 PM

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I tried to look at ngg for the basis for my first mod and then I saw the fsm stuff and died

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:15 PM

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so if the FSMs are c#, why can't we just change them then? (or is it because it's serialized instead of compiled?)

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lol

leaden hedge Dec 4, 2017, 9:16 PM

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its because its serialized in a retarded way

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:16 PM

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there are 3 example mods out there now on the modding github repo btw, they don't do much

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but they do have all the basics

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ah

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yeah i just assumed because of the arcane methods we got to them that they were in some other language

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bad to assume

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 9:36 PM

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I didn't mean to do that

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I'll fix it when I'm out of bed

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:45 PM

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in randomizer can mantis claw spawn after the lost kin fight?

hazy sentinel Dec 4, 2017, 9:45 PM

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yes

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if you mean broken vessel

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:45 PM

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yes

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thats what i meant

hazy sentinel Dec 4, 2017, 9:46 PM

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on my only randomizer playthrough claw was at monarch wings

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fun times

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:46 PM

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i got grubsong 😦

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you need mantis claw to beat the game right?

hazy sentinel Dec 4, 2017, 9:46 PM

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yeah

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:46 PM

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guess ill keep looking

hollow pier Dec 4, 2017, 9:46 PM

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no you just need to play lightbringer to beat the game

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:51 PM

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wait, how do i leave ancient basin without walljump?

exotic venture Dec 4, 2017, 9:51 PM

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uhm

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good point

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pogo?

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 9:51 PM

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You quit

hollow pier Dec 4, 2017, 9:51 PM

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no

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you need sprintmaster

tranquil glen Dec 4, 2017, 9:52 PM

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oh right

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is that why the bench was removed?

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 9:52 PM

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Yep

exotic venture Dec 4, 2017, 9:52 PM

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good thinking actually

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 9:55 PM

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unless you're running 1.4.0, don't go get shade cloak without claw or dreamnail (set outside of basin) or tram pass

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cause shade cloak had a hard save in it 😃

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 9:57 PM

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Even with tram pass don't tbh

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Such a pain in the ass to get out of there

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:07 PM

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oh cmon. that skip is fun

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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It's literally just random chance

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Most of the time the sibling decides to become dumb

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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you can kite them in a way they don't suicide

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....usually

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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unless it loses it's brain

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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No not suicide

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Their AI just breaks

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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and has to be punched up

rain cedar Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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Yeah

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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forever

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

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oh right. that dumb 1.2.2.1 bug

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was fine before that

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:09 PM

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it was fireborn who did that right? spent like 20 minutes trying to get out

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only to find out he was still stuck

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:09 PM

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yeah

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that was during the rando that i actually won

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:13 PM

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actually with tram pass

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it wouldn't be hard

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cause there is a save inside the tram

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so post 1.4, when there is no more hard saves down there

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it wouldn't be bad

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:14 PM

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that's the only way out pre 1.4

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:14 PM

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correct

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:14 PM

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or do you mean to check all 3

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:15 PM

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after 1.4 checking all 3 would be fairly safe, other than the time involved into getting into cloak if you don't have cloak

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since you'd need to shade pogo

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:15 PM

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no thanks

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lol

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is that skip even in the logic?

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:15 PM

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don't think so

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:15 PM

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didn't think so

buoyant wasp Dec 4, 2017, 10:16 PM

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cause man that's a time sink

young walrus Dec 4, 2017, 10:16 PM

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thought it was claw or shade cloak only

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 12:10 AM

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found a bug with debug mod

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don't go down into the hatch here with no clip

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📎 unknown.png

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coming back up freezes the interface

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can hazard respawn out of it though

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 12:29 AM

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That's technically not a bug with the mod because it happens in vanilla too if you manage to hit loads that are meant to be blocked off

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Just a bit harder to do without noclip

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 12:46 AM

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ah

#

hmm, so, lets say we finally get nail arts randomized. would the dash slash doors be part of the logic or would we assume those are sequence breaks because they've already said that in the beta patch notes they are explicitly fixing that

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i'd assume the latter

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 12:47 AM

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Yeah not gonna bother with that in the logic

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Too patch specific

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 12:48 AM

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yeah

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 12:53 AM

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But anyway for debug mod I could probably fix that

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Right now I'm only applying the noclip when you character is no longer entering the level

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Because it does weird shit otherwise

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But I could probably set all the stuff for the character state manually instead

copper nacelle Dec 5, 2017, 1:00 AM

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in randomizer

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are the MoP doors part of the logic

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 1:01 AM

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Literally just talked about that with wyza

copper nacelle Dec 5, 2017, 1:06 AM

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thought that was just dash slash

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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alright

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 1:07 AM

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It's the same glitch

copper nacelle Dec 5, 2017, 1:07 AM

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ohh

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alright

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 1:13 AM

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basically, hitting things through walls is not used anywere logic wise because what is and isn't hitable through walls changes

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from patch to patch

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 1:29 AM

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It's actually pretty funny how they fixed this in white palace

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Some levers you can noclip directly on top of and you still can't hit them

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They're just not hittable until some other condition is met

dapper folio Dec 5, 2017, 1:30 AM

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volume somewhere? another switch?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 1:31 AM

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Probably just a position trigger somewhere or another switch

#

Didn't look into it too much

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:05 AM

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@rain cedar - you have the latest rando with the xml fixes, figure might try giving it a run through

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:06 AM

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All that's changed in there is I fixed a missing quote

📎 randomizer.xml

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:07 AM

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ah

#

k

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:07 AM

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Right now the CLASSIC keyword isn't being parsed

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I can probably fix that in like 5 minutes if you want to wait for that

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:08 AM

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ok

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:08 AM

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Have you tried the randomizer with your changes for the tracker yet?

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:08 AM

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not a full run

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just picked up the first item

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:09 AM

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Alright, for now I'm not gonna merge that then

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:09 AM

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one of the reasons i want to run it otnight 😃

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:10 AM

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Is there any way I can pull that into my local repository without merging it?

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Otherwise any changed dll I send won't have that

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:10 AM

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hmm, you could probably pull mine as a separate branch, or if you want, you can just send me the changes to make it parse classic and i'll merge it manually

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:11 AM

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Alright

#

Well it should be as simple as adding this after line 40 in RandomizerEntry.cs

logic = logic.Replace("CLASSIC", PlayerData.instance.permadeathMode > 0 ? "true" : "false");

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:13 AM

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so basically this:

        public bool IsReachable(List<RandomizerEntry> obtained)
        {
            //RandomizerMod.instance.Log("Checking if " + this.name + " is reachable");

            List<string> names = new List<string>();
            foreach (RandomizerEntry entry in obtained)
            {
                names.Add(entry.name);
                //RandomizerMod.instance.Log("Have " + entry.name);
            }
            
            string logic = string.Copy(reqString).Replace("HARD", RandomizerMod.instance.Settings.hardMode ? "true" : "false").Replace("KEYITEMS", Randomizer.keyItems);
            logic = logic.Replace("CLASSIC", PlayerData.instance.permadeathMode > 0 ? "true" : "false");

            string logic2 = string.Copy(logic);
            List<int> quoteIndices = logic.AllIndexesOf("\"");
            for (int i = 0; i < quoteIndices.Count - 1; i += 2)
            {
                string itemName = logic2.Substring(quoteIndices[i] + 1, quoteIndices[i + 1] - quoteIndices[i] - 1);
                logic = logic.Replace("\"" + itemName + "\"", names.Contains(itemName) ? "true" : "false");
            }

            return ParseLogicString(logic);
        }

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:13 AM

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Yeah, right there

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:13 AM

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cool, i'll give it a spin

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:28 AM

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@buoyant wasp Planning to stream it?

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 3:29 AM

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will probably here in about 20 when the wife goes to bed 😃

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:30 AM

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Gotcha

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 4:11 AM

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What's the nightmare god grimm mod?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 4:15 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDk6qkVbf80

YouTube

Trinomi

Nightmare God Grimm - Segmented Fight [Mod]

This is a segmented fight of KDT's mod Nightmare God Grimm (NGG 0.2.1), why segmented you ask? Because the final phase in this version is nonsense and pretty...

▶ Play video

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 4:15 AM

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damn that looks brutal

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 4:17 AM

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Nobody has beaten it single segment yet

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 4:17 AM

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also ive got a problem with boss rush where i cant upgrade anything / pick up items between fights. Any fixes?

📎 Desktop_12.04.2017_-_23.16.05.01.png

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:12 AM

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so, not really sure what to do about the spells

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:13 AM

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How did the new rando patch work out

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:13 AM

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mostly ok. the overlay is broken for spells atm

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and i had a weird crash before HK

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otherwise, seemed fine

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trolly seed

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:14 AM

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That crash happened to a couple people a while ago

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:15 AM

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and for some reason fragile greed didn't show up as gotten on the overlay until i S&Q, everything else seems to work though

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:16 AM

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Almost as good as the in game bug I had

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Lol

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Where it showed charm locations I had checked in my inventory, but the charms I actually got were there, just invisible

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Lol

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:17 AM

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the spells thing, idk how to fix because what i use to signal that i got a spell is via the int hook looking for a value that ends with "Level"

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:17 AM

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Was that the new beta overlay you were testing Wyza?

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:17 AM

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updated overlay to match the updated randomizer

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so, yeah

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:18 AM

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The old one won't work with new version?

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:18 AM

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eh, the old way we did it was really hackish, writing out a file to the save directory so that the overlay could read it

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the new way lets the randomizer tell the overlay what you got instead of having to do the translation

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basically

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:19 AM

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I mean yeah. I agree. But as of right now, it's stable. Just thinking about the races coming up

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:20 AM

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yeah, unless it turns out to be really stable between now and the 16th, i won't push the new one until after

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 6:20 AM

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Yaya

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Redundant message

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Lol

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:20 AM

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😃

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@rain cedar - in "vanilla" is the spell value being set via the SetInt normally? Wondering if we can't still use your existing approach for setting spells, but just call the randomizer's SetPlayerIntHook so that from a Mod's perspective who subscribe's to RandomizerMod.Instance.SetPlayerIntHook, they will behave as normal..... yeah, i think that should work.

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:32 AM

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Should be fine, yeah

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:18 AM

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@buoyant wasp What were the original file names for the split ones?

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There is no sheet titles in the xml, only keys

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Title is probably just the file name

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:20 AM

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hmm

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that looks bad

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EN-Achievements_TextAsset_0_1945.txt
EN-Backer Messages_TextAsset_0_1877.txt
EN-Banker_TextAsset_0_2275.txt
EN-Charm Slug_TextAsset_0_1809.txt
EN-Cornifer_TextAsset_0_1933.txt
EN-CP2_TextAsset_0_1883.txt
EN-Credits List_TextAsset_0_2022.txt
EN-Dream Witch_TextAsset_0_2059.txt
EN-Dreamers_TextAsset_0_2100.txt
EN-Elderbug_TextAsset_0_1869.txt
EN-Enemy Dreams_TextAsset_0_2173.txt
EN-General_TextAsset_0_1946.txt
EN-Ghosts_TextAsset_0_2139.txt
EN-Hornet_TextAsset_0_2193.txt
EN-Hunter_TextAsset_0_1861.txt
EN-Iselda_TextAsset_0_1908.txt
EN-Jiji_TextAsset_0_2181.txt
EN-Journal_TextAsset_0_2019.txt
EN-Lore Tablets_TextAsset_0_2038.txt
EN-MainMenu_TextAsset_0_2264.txt
EN-Map Zones_TextAsset_0_2098.txt
EN-Minor NPC_TextAsset_0_1994.txt
EN-Nailmasters_TextAsset_0_1831.txt
EN-Nailsmith_TextAsset_0_1955.txt
EN-Prices_TextAsset_0_2242.txt
EN-Prompts_TextAsset_0_2316.txt
EN-Quirrel_TextAsset_0_1899.txt
EN-Relic Dealer_TextAsset_0_2196.txt
EN-Shaman_TextAsset_0_2141.txt
EN-Sly_TextAsset_0_2048.txt
EN-StagMenu_TextAsset_0_2005.txt
EN-Stag_TextAsset_0_2317.txt
EN-Titles_TextAsset_0_1934.txt
EN-UI_TextAsset_0_2228.txt
EN-Zote_TextAsset_0_1927.txt

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Could you send me these?

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That's a lot of files so don't do it here

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:23 AM

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yup

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note that they aren't quite the raw extracted versions anymore. I did some regex to convert them from the psuedo XML that the extracted versions came out as into viable xml

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📎 TextAssets.zip

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:24 AM

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That's fine, I can figure it out

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:32 AM

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i have this amusing thing where i want to replace the text for all the conversations in the randomizer with zote's words of wisdom

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Make Zote's speech audio play constantly as well for full Zote immersion

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:35 AM

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lol, well it's more an emulation of the zelda randomizer. they took several of the conversations and rewrote them with various things. like what you find in the master sword location is stuff like "Couch Cash" (for 20 rupees).

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but having the zote voice mumbling in the background every time you talk to someone would definitely be amusing

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but the language mod (which is what i'm assuming you wanted these assets for), should make that kind of thing fairly trivial

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:41 AM

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Yeah, there's a couple problems in making this language mod, though. First being no sheet titles, but I can fix that easily with some work. Second being the default font doesn't support hebrew, should be easy to fix since the game already has support for swapping dialog fonts due to chinese. The only actually hard problem is that hebrew is right aligned

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Not sure how to handle that one

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:41 AM

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i looked at that briefly

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the RTL thing

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the text rendering library they use has a RTL flag

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:42 AM

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That's convenient

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:46 AM

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protected bool TMP_Text.m_isRightToLeft;

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oh, and i guess you manage it with this: public bool isRightToLeftText

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:49 AM

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Thanks

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:51 AM

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outside of that, idk, the code for the text handling is huge.....

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hopefully it'll "just work"

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which seems unlikely

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:52 AM

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Yeah

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For now I'm just hooking LanguageGet but I want to add a hook to Language.DoSwitch and probably some other places to have proper support for adding arbitrary fan languages

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:55 AM

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yeah, i figured you'd make it at least partially configurable, "oh, you want czech? no problem."

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:56 AM

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Probably gonna have to hook just about everything in Language honestly

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:56 AM

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probably

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:57 AM

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I don't have to hook LanguageNameToCode at least, so that's one

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Since it's already got a ton of languages in it other than the supported ones