#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 33

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:43 AM

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With chances proportional to the counts of each artifact in the base game

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:45 AM

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What about swapping pale ore, rancid egg and items together?

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Swapping those with upgrade makes thing too hard/long, but swapping them together could be neat.

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Would be cool getting early pale ore.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:47 AM

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Maybe

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With pale ore it's important that there's exactly 6

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:48 AM

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Could also fix the simple key issue.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:48 AM

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So I can't just randomize it as I'm doing with relics

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Much more of a pain

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:48 AM

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Just shuffle them.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Sure, just get me a list of every relic and egg and I'll do it

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I'm not gonna be the one doing that tedium

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:49 AM

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1 array of spawn points. 1 array of items. Shuffle item arrays.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Yes I'm aware how to do it mechanically

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:49 AM

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https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/map

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It has the list of all eggs + items.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Not good enough

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I need scene names

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:50 AM

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I can send you the screenshots with names.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:51 AM

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Sure if you actually want to put in the work, I'd be fine with adding it

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:51 AM

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What do you need exactly?

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Just the map id?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:51 AM

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The internal scene name

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It's shown on the debug menu info panel

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Also you're missing a line here

📎 unknown.png

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:52 AM

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Thanks, gonna add it.

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I got each scene with their id and screenshot: https://puu.sh/yjl56.png

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:53 AM

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Oh, cool

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:54 AM

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So the map internal id is all you need to swap them?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:55 AM

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Yeah

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:55 AM

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Seems too simple to me lol

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:55 AM

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There's nowhere with two of one type in a single scene that I'm aware of

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:56 AM

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https://puu.sh/yjleN.png

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Thats 1 or 2 maps?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 1:57 AM

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Two

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It's split at around the midpoint

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Where the water looks off

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 1:57 AM

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Ok good.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 1:58 AM

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sorry, got distracted, back to working on the api 😛

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:06 AM

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http://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/1483235412200431252/

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api hollowface

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:06 AM

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eh

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rip

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will asks to play blackmoth

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later that same day, HK gets updated

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thinkgrub

wispy mist Nov 11, 2017, 2:08 AM

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holy moly the api is already updated

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?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:08 AM

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no

wispy mist Nov 11, 2017, 2:09 AM

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oh lol

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my badf

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:09 AM

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its just a nice meme we're about to update api and the game updates hollowface

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I guess its technically good timing

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:09 AM

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That's why he's working on the API

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It's not good timing

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:10 AM

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I thought he was adding gradows hooks

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:10 AM

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I only just got home

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:10 AM

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Maybe that too

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:10 AM

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was about to write the doc

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and then, bam, update

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:11 AM

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@rain cedar question

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Language.Get(string,string)

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in the new dll its this

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public static string Get(string key, string sheetTitle)
{
    if (Language.currentEntrySheets == null || !Language.currentEntrySheets.ContainsKey(sheetTitle))
    {
        Debug.LogError("The sheet with title \"" + sheetTitle + "\" does not exist!");
        return string.Empty;
    }
    if (Language.currentEntrySheets[sheetTitle].ContainsKey(key))
    {
        return Language.currentEntrySheets[sheetTitle][key];
    }
    return "#!#" + key + "#!#";
}

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but the mod version was this

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return ModHooks.Instance.LanguageGet(key, sheetTitle);

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do you just gut the method for the mod version?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:12 AM

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The mod version has Language.GetInternal

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Which is just the vanilla Get function

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:12 AM

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k

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:12 AM

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ModHooks.LanguageGet calls that if there's nothing hooked

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Hm

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Does the hook check for null?

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I don't remember

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You could return null or an empty string or something for no changes

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:14 AM

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        public string LanguageGet(string key, string sheet)
        {
            string @internal = Language.Language.GetInternal(key, sheet);
            string result = @internal;
            bool flag = false;
            if (LanguageGetHook == null) return result;

            Delegate[] invocationList = LanguageGetHook.GetInvocationList();
            foreach (Delegate toInvoke in invocationList)
            {
                string text = (string)toInvoke.DynamicInvoke(key, sheet);
                if (text == @internal || flag) continue;

                result = text;
                flag = true;
            }
            return result;
        }

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yeah, it checks

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:14 AM

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Ah ok

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Return the internal string for no changes

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That makes sense

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That syntax is really odd

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I guess the compiler fucked with it

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:17 AM

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yeah

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that's one of the methods i didn't rewrite, in part because I didn't understand it's purpose well enough yet to do so

copper nacelle Nov 11, 2017, 2:26 AM

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do the level files have image assets and stuff

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or is that only the sharedasset stuff

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:27 AM

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eh

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will this work?

📎 BonfireHooksDoc.txt

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:31 AM

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good enough

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:31 AM

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the level files only have gameobject

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all the files are either in asset files

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:31 AM

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i'll review and put them into this version i'm doing now

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 2:31 AM

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or in resources

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:32 AM

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do you need specific placements?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 2:33 AM

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It's probably pretty easy to guess, but it can't hurt

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:33 AM

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just a sec

copper nacelle Nov 11, 2017, 2:33 AM

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ty @leaden hedge

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:41 AM

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with references

📎 BonfireHooksDoc.txt

unreal dune Nov 11, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Yay everyones mods are fucked

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;-;

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:49 AM

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yeah yeah, we're working on it 😛

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thanks @solemn rivet - just finished putting the source into to the solution, going to stick it into the dll now

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so, good timing on the location of the hooks

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:51 AM

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hope the instructions are clear enough

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 2:51 AM

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i'll let you know if i get lost

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:52 AM

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ok

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:03 AM

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@solemn rivet for NailSlash.OnTriggerEnter2D, where do you get the GameObject to pass to the OnSlashHit method?

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:04 AM

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it's the base object

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so base.gameObject

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:04 AM

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got it

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ok, so, FYI - the game changed how the cursor works

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which will impact your code

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@solemn rivet
1.2.1.4

if (!this.isMenuScene)
    {
        if (!this.gm.isPaused)
        {
            Cursor.visible = false;
        }
        else
        {
            Cursor.visible = true;
        }

1.2.2.1

if (!this.isMenuScene)
    {
        if (!this.gm.isPaused)
        {
            Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
        }
        else
        {
            Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.None;
        }

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:08 AM

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oh

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:08 AM

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why not implement ingame controls instead hollowface

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:09 AM

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so here's the question

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do we update the hook to follow 1.2.2.1 or restore the old functionality?

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        [HookInfo("Called whenever game tries to show cursor", "InputHandler.OnGUI")]
        public event CursorHandler CursorHook;

        public void OnCursor()
        {
            if (CursorHook != null)
            {
                CursorHook();
                return;
            }
            if (!GameManager.instance.isPaused)
            {
                Cursor.visible = false;
                return;
            }
            Cursor.visible = true;
        }

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:10 AM

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if Locked is the same as invisible... There's no reason to not change

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:10 AM

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locked means you can't move the cursor i think

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:10 AM

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I remember VS saying Cursor.visible was deprecated...

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:11 AM

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but i guess we'll see

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i'll go ahead and make the hook follow the new code

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oh, yeah, here's the intellisense for that

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"Lock cursor to the center of the ingame window"

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:12 AM

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ehh

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how is the game hiding the cursor on pause now then?

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the other way around, I mean

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:13 AM

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pretty sure thats an auxiliary function of locking

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:13 AM

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must be this

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            if (this.controlMouseCursor)
            {
                Cursor.lockState = (PlayMakerGUI.LockCursor ? CursorLockMode.Locked : CursorLockMode.None);
                Cursor.visible = !PlayMakerGUI.HideCursor;
            }

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:14 AM

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weird

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When Locked, the cursor is placed in the center of the view and cannot be moved. The cursor is invisible in this state, regardless of the value of Cursor.visible.

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:15 AM

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so, it's strictly stronger than cursor.visible?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:15 AM

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well yeah

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its supposed to be for when you don't have a cursor

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like say an fps game

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where the mouse moves the viewport, instead of moving in the viewport

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:16 AM

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so, i guess the question is, what were you using this hook for?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:16 AM

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to show the cursor

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:16 AM

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show cursor for levelling up

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:16 AM

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ah

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i wonder if you can use "confined"

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instead

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might work

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:17 AM

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that locks it to the screen

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but you can't leave it

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 AM

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is that a problem for bonfire though?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 AM

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not really

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 AM

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or you could just set the lockstate to none

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and visible to true

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 AM

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especially because blackmoth has no leveling hollowface

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visible can probably always be true

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locked overrides it

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 AM

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well, the issue with that was

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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yeah, but who knows what might cause visible to get switched

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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the game is constantly checking for pause

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and if it's not paused, it hides the cursor

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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Is dash required to beat the game?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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no

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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I got dream nail + wings + mantis claw

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:19 AM

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k, so you'll have to update your method to change the lockstate in your mod, but i think otherwise we'll be ok

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:20 AM

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you need dreamnail & (isma|superdash) & claw

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:20 AM

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Ya, uumuu is pain.

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:20 AM

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and if it's not paused, it hides the cursor

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so it's blinky

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:20 AM

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why not just implement it with ingame controls instead

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:22 AM

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Are certain upgrade more common at certain places?

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In randomiser.

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:22 AM

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because I don't know how to do that KDT

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:26 AM

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you'd only need like

int menuPos = 0
static int menuSize = 5; // one for each stat + 2 for reset / confirm
int[] stats = new int[3]; //one for each stat

if( downPressed )
    menuPos++
if( upPressed )
    menuPos--
menuPos = (menuPos + menuSize) % menuSize;
if( menuPos < menuSize-2) {//first 3
    if ( rightPress )
        stats[menuPos]++;
    if ( leftPress )
        stats[menuPos]--;
}
if( menuPos == menuSize-1 && confirmedPressed )
    confirmStats();
if( menuPos == menuSize-2 && confirmedPressed )
    resetStats();
if( cancelPressed )
    cancelStats();

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:28 AM

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ok, the cursor change is annoying

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:28 AM

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and the buttons are all in
GameManager.instance.inputHandler.inputActions
so you can do
GameManager.instance.inputHandler.inputActions.down.wasPressed
to check if down was pressed

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:28 AM

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like, holy crap annoying

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:28 AM

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Are you supposed to be able to kill the baldur dudes with only mark of pride?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:29 AM

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yes

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:29 AM

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though often you'll get something else that works too

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:29 AM

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How?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:29 AM

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you hit them

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:30 AM

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dive, sporeshroom, glowing womb, spiders, grimmchild, defenders crest, what else...hmmm

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i'm really tempted to change this stupid cursor thing....ugh

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:30 AM

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Uve got a clip of that?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 3:31 AM

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You get close to it so it locks up

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Then walk out of that range and immediately turn around and attack

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Longnail only is enough range, but that's not in the logic

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:31 AM

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Oh

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Easier than I thought

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 3:31 AM

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Mark of pride is tough but much more reasonable

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 3:32 AM

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but it shouldn't be too complicated @solemn rivet
i'd recommend working on it in a few steps at a time
get going up and down working
then get it overflowing correctly, so going over the top puts you at the bottom
then just implement actions for each menu position one at a time
then get it displaying nicely

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 3:33 AM

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Does that include the new logger? I noticed you never merged that on the github

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 AM

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yes, i'll be merging and pushing that

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 AM

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Alright

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 AM

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it also includes the hooks needed for bonfire

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 AM

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Yeah!! Got it and got amazing charm! Wayward Compass!

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 AM

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and the hooks for the new savegame stuff

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k, updated code posted

young walrus Nov 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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I guess we'll see if this works tomorrow during the race

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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lol, bleeding edge

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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I'll do a run and see if there's problems

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Got nothing better to do right now

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:09 AM

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This seems like a problem

📎 unknown.png

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:10 AM

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lol

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"it's fine"

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though, really, i'm guessing you have a better idea as to why she didn't show up than i do 😃

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:12 AM

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Best guess is the shaman is stuck waiting for me to take fireball

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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fireball?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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But they'd have to have changed the fsm for it

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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is that part of a mod or something

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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No, vengeful spirit

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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huh

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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It's a fireball

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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not really made of fire

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:13 AM

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yes, well, it's still faster and easier to type

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and it's close enough

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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soulball

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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re: fsm changes, them randomly changing stuff wouldn't surprise me

young walrus Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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you're not going to change what we call it wranobble. lol

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we've called it fireball for months

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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it's called fireball in the game's code. fireball, scream, and quake are the spells

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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this is like dbfz, acthually its not a fireball its a ki blast

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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weird

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:14 AM

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no

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because thats pretty standard name

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for a fireball

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:15 AM

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PlayerData.fireballLevel < literally what the developers called it

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:15 AM

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people don't go around calling akuma's shakunetsu hadouken that

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they just call it fireball

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:21 AM

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@rain cedar - in the randomizer code you have this

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            UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.activeSceneChanged += SceneHandler.CheckForChanges;

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:22 AM

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Yeah

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:22 AM

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ah, nvm, that's base code

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was thinking i had missed a hook

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:22 AM

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Yeah, Unity has events built in

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:23 AM

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the fsm probably changed for shaman

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dunno why it would though

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:25 AM

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wonder if they changed it to include some check to make sure you pick up the soul charm or fireball

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for...reasons

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:25 AM

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it used to have that

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I don't think it'd even check baldur state unless you got firebal

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:26 AM

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this is what the randomizer code does today for that scene

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https://github.com/MyEyes/RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod/SceneHandler.cs#L151

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:27 AM

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I think it's more likely that changing how the spells are stored is breaking this

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 4:29 AM

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Can you learn Shade Soul before Vengeful spirit in randomizer?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:29 AM

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No

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:29 AM

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you just get vengeful either way

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if you were to pickup what would be shade soul in the logic, but didn't pickup vengful, you get vengful and the other vengful becomes shade

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works like ALTTP randomizers for swords, shields, and armor

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 4:30 AM

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So basically, it does +1.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:30 AM

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mmhmm

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:30 AM

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its not even basically

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fireballLevel is an int

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0 is no, 1 is vs, 2 is shade soul

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:31 AM

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ah

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no

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i think i know what might be the issue

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maybe

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looks like you modified intadd and i didn't realize it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:32 AM

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Oh, yeah, I modified all the int functions

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:32 AM

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yeah, lemme fix that

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tomorrow i'm going to go through and make a document of every single place these hooks are done

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:33 AM

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Alright, probably a good idea

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:42 AM

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did a "Used By" on Modhooks.Instance in the old and new

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:42 AM

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Alright, I'll give this a try and see if it's got the same issue

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:42 AM

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to make sure i didn't miss any this time

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turns out there was a 2nd place where the BeforeSceneLoad hook was called in LoadSceneAdditive that i had missed. so added that in too. now not missing anything from the list

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which also could have easily broken the shamman thing if you use that hook

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which it does, so that's probably it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Nah I don't really use that hook

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:45 AM

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ah

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yeah, clicked into it "do something complicated so this never gets called"

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:49 AM

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Really loving not being able to click off the game during downtime with this new patch

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And having to pull my mouse all the way from the center of the game to my other monitor is pretty A+

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:50 AM

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honestly, i'm really tempted to fix it

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i have to edit that method anyway

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for a hook

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screw it, i'm gonna change it and see what breaks, cause...no

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 4:51 AM

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Yeah, go ahead

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In general I'd be against changing how the game functions in the API

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But this change is just so random and awful

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:51 AM

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it makes dual monitor setups so freaking annoying

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@leaden hedge - so, interesting thing about the more saves mod

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📎 unknown.png

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2 pages, except no, because i only have these 2 saves

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if i go to page to, it unloads, loads, then reloads page 1

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:54 AM

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did it work fine on the old api

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:55 AM

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nope

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but i got distracted

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and forgot to post it

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:55 AM

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does the page counter go from 1 -> 2?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:56 AM

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📎 2017-11-10_22-56-06.mp4

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 4:59 AM

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what input device are you using

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 4:59 AM

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controller

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using the right button that changes inventory

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:00 AM

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does it happen with keyboard

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:00 AM

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sec

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yes

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though i can break it by hitting the rotate button during the transition

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and then it will end up on page 2

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also, the page 1/2 thing needs to be unloaded at different timings, right now it doesn't unload until after a new menu has fully loaded

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:03 AM

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thats not my fault hollowface

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:03 AM

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also, somehow i still have it shown after loading into the game

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📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:04 AM

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it should only be drawn whilst the game is in the profile selector

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anyway

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go to regedit

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and set

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MaxPages_h396801905
to
DWORD 0x00000050 or something

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so your pages will be way bigger

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 5:05 AM

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Shaman is working with the int stuff fixed

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:05 AM

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and I can actually see what its doing

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:06 AM

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assuming i'm looking at HKEYCURRENT_USER and then something for teamcherry?

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ah, yup, got it

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so, it seems like what's happening is that sometimes the keypress is registered twice

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:09 AM

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try this

📎 MoreSaves.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:10 AM

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well, that's...different

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now it's just counting down

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oh, there we go, got it to count up

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except it does it forever

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:12 AM

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📎 MoreSaves.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:16 AM

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moved once, 2 pages in 1 button press, now can't move anymore in either direction

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also only worked on controller, didn't work on kb anymore

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:28 AM

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@rain cedar Here's the list of items with their location. https://puu.sh/yjs3p.txt

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There are a few TODO left. Ill work on them tomorrow.

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It doesnt include items from NPCs.

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 5:30 AM

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Alright, thanks

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I don't think I'll shuffle notches/keys, but I can add the other stuff here to the relic pool

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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What about shuffling maps too?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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...why?

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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Right now, getting maps from the dude is useless.

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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@buoyant wasp

📎 MoreSaves.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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that would make vendors even more powerful

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they are already the single most powerful 3 places in the game due to the number of items they have

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:34 AM

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You do need to reach the map area first.

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By shuffling maps, what I mean is shuffling maps and other non-key items.

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Like geo items,mask,,vessel etc.

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Charm + upgrade only swap between eachother.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:36 AM

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so...buy a map to get geo? gambling!

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@leaden hedge - well it doesn't move forever in a given direction, still have the issue of a single press causing it to move 2 pages unless just barely touch the key

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if i hold it for more than maybe 100-150ms, it moves twice

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:38 AM

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if you hold it, it should go constantly

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:38 AM

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yes, it does, but the gap between "pressed the key normally" and "holding the key" is so small that it's nearly impossible to release the key before it goes into continuous mode

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:39 AM

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its 0.4 seconds

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which is pretty big

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it works fine for me at 0.1f

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:42 AM

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What are you using to detect key input?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:42 AM

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the same thing the game does

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:42 AM

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GetKeyUp?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 5:42 AM

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Maybe timescale is not 1 on main menu? I see you're using Time.time instead of Time.realTimeSinceStartup

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 5:43 AM

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Actually, I dont even know what youre trying to do lol

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:43 AM

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well if it was slower, that'd make it even less likely to fire

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because it'd take longer to reach 0.4f

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https://pastebin.com/sTyAZCbF

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heres the current function

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:45 AM

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.05f?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:45 AM

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thats to prevent double presses

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1/20 of a second is plenty of time

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:46 AM

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and inputWindow = .4f?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 5:46 AM

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yes

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:59 AM

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i know why it's broken

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well, at least, i'm getting there

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            if (MoreSavesComponent.queueRight == 0 && MoreSavesComponent.holdingRight && Time.time - MoreSavesComponent.firstInput > MoreSavesComponent.inputWindow)
            {
                ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug("holdingRight for " + (Time.time - MoreSavesComponent.firstInput));
                MoreSavesComponent.queueRight = 1;
            }

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so, i added this log line

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and

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ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug((Time.time - MoreSavesComponent.lastInput).ToString());
                if (MoreSavesComponent.queueRight > 0 && Time.time - MoreSavesComponent.lastInput > MoreSavesComponent.inputWindow / 2f)

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this is the output

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[DEBUG]:holdingRight for 32.68
[DEBUG]:32.68
[DEBUG]:holdingRight for 32.7
[DEBUG]:0.02000046

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so, i pressed the key for .02 seconds

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however, it appears that .firstInput is based something else, looking now

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:02 AM

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firstInput is just set by the first few lines of FixedUpdate

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:02 AM

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ah, yes, but that's never getting called

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i put this in

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            if (MoreSavesComponent.gm.inputHandler.inputActions.paneRight.WasPressed)
            {
                ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug("paneRight pressed");
                MoreSavesComponent.firstInput = Time.time;
                MoreSavesComponent.queueRight++;
            }

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paneRight is never logged

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at least, not with kb

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testing with controller

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:03 AM

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it should, considering if you press paneRight really fast

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you should be able to get it to jump 4 or 5 times in one page turn

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[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed
[DEBUG]:paneRight pressed

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works fine for me

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:06 AM

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are you running on 1.2.1.4 still?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:06 AM

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both controller and keyboard

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no

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1.2.2.1-2

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:07 AM

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k

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 6:07 AM

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@leaden hedge Nothing dropped after False Knight

📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:07 AM

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on current api?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 6:08 AM

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Yeah

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This is my second run of this on current

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It worked fine the first time

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📎 ModLog.txt

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Looks like you're printing a ton of fsm stuff there

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:09 AM

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yeah I do

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 6:09 AM

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I don't know if any of it is helpful

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:09 AM

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nah its just a dump of the inspect region fsm

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with the names of objects all its states point to

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 6:10 AM

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I see

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:17 AM

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is there a way to show fps?

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in the menu

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:18 AM

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enable steam overlay

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should be an option for it on that

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 6:18 AM

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Yeah, that's how I've got fps

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:20 AM

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fps shouldn't affect it

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I put it into fixedUpdate

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:24 AM

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it's definitely FPS

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this is what the forums say about FixedUpdate:

Update runs once per frame. FixedUpdate can run once, zero, or several times per frame, depending on how many physics frames per second are set in the time settings, and how fast/slow the framerate is.

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if i turn vsync on

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the stuff works

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if i turn it off, it displays this issue

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:26 AM

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fixed update runs at most whatever physics frames are a second

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so if its set to 60, aslong as you have 60fps or more, you'll get 60 fixed updates a second

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:31 AM

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so

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in the menu

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my framerate is 500-1000 FPS

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(this is based on the ingame FPS counter, not the steam one)

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https://forum.unity.com/threads/the-truth-about-fixedupdate.231637/

Unity Community

The truth about FixedUpdate()

I've lately come across a few posts and questions about FixedUpdate, more specifically about using FixedUpdate() at very high frequency to have a more...

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:34 AM

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well it isn't fixedupdate anyway

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I moved it into fixedupdate to try and fix the problem

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:51 AM

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question, was the old code using "Update" instead?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:51 AM

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yes

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:58 AM

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....wth, so i used dnspy, switched it back to Update, and now it works exactly like you'd expect it to

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well, except Page 1/4919 still shows when i load a game

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 6:58 AM

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📎 MoreSaves.dll

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well it was regeditted

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try that one

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:59 AM

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k

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ok, that works. should i regedit it back down to 2 and see if the Page 1/4919 goes away after game load?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:03 AM

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go for it

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:03 AM

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also, if i fail at communicating, this is what i mean about it showing.

📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:03 AM

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yeah didn't that get fixed?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:03 AM

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nope

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:03 AM

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I have a fix in a second anyway

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:04 AM

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interestingly, if you pause/unpause, then it hides

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Mod API 1.2.2.1-4 (BETA) - The cursor behavior has been reverted to how it was in 1.2.1.4 and below. (no longer locked to the center of the screen). Also, ModLoader now only tries to load *.dll files instead of all files in the Mods\ folder.

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

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(and deleted the other 2 alphas from the channel history to make sure no confusion)

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changed the registry back to 2, page count is fine, keypresses are fine, i can't begin to explain why it works now

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:13 AM

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the original version didn't have the && t - lastInput > 0.05f

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:13 AM

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ah

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:16 AM

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alright heres some extra nice thingeronis

📎 MoreSaves.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:19 AM

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so, good news and bad news. good news, page goes away.

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bad news. Loading a save, then quitting, then going back to the save area reverts the save area to the vanilla way ( no page indicator, no moving pages with inventory keys)

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@rain cedar - Thoughts on this change? (mod version info shows when you pause the game)

📎 unknown.png

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IE , do you like it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 7:21 AM

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I don't think it matters too much either way

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Doesn't really hurt anything to have that there

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:22 AM

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mostly just thinking, sometimes folks will get on here and say, "I just had XYZ happen", but then if you say the way to find out is save and quit, that might not be feasible (like in boss rush where s&q basically ends the run)

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Makes sense

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:23 AM

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cool

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 7:38 AM

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@leaden hedge Any chance for an option to progress without grabbing upgrades in boss rush?

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Right now I'm stuck with a choice between dashmaster and deep focus

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Both will have only negative impact

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:39 AM

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yeah, I want that but not sure how I want to implement it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 7:40 AM

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Could be a button

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Could be a fourth pickup

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Could leave transition gates open but just progress to the next boss when you go through them

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Or close them but reopen them after the boss is dead

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There's options

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I could do it if you want, just not sure which option you'd prefer

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:41 AM

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well transition gates won't work

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not with the ui

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could probably just make it, if you hold down crystal dash for 0.5seconds

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 7:43 AM

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That's a really random way to skip

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But whatever works

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:43 AM

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well no one is ever gonna need that key, and every controller should have it bound

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@buoyant wasp test this hollowface

📎 MoreSaves.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:45 AM

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k, when i finish this boss rush run, gimme a few

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:51 AM

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I don't wanna just bind it straight to button because you might accidently do it, and i'm not a fan of the 4th item

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but I guess double tapping quick map could work instead of holding dash

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 7:58 AM

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if we're asking for new features. the ability to specify the seed for items would be great so you could do a boss rush race with someone

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 7:59 AM

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don't think I'll be implementing anything more today its 8am
https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-bossrush
https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-moresaves
but I updated the github for both bossrush and moresaves

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:00 AM

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lol, shouldn't you sleep or something?

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also ran into the same issue as sean on a diff boss, grimm1 dropped no charms

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what's the current bossrush version#?

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0.7.0.0?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 8:01 AM

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0.7.1, dunno what VS gave it

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ill load my game and check

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0.7.6523.10162

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📎 BossRush.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:03 AM

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cool, got the same then, just wanted to make sure i wasn't finding bugs in an older version

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cause that's semi-useless

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oh, nice, the page stuff fades out on menu change now, slick

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 8:03 AM

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if you want to try and debug and reproduce, its
BossInfo.SpawnAll();

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:04 AM

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k, well, the save->load->quit->save page (mod appears to have gone on a vacation) bug still exists, but otherwise, seems to work fine

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 8:05 AM

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weird, I tested that and it worked for me

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:05 AM

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and i might tomorrow, at this point, just am going to game a little and vegg and then pass out

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just reinstalled it, testing again

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nope still broken, oh well, we can tackle it again tomorrow

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:42 AM

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if i have just monarch wings in steel soul rando, how do i get to ancient basin?

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 8:43 AM

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you figure it out

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hollowdab

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:47 AM

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going through crystal peak to resting grounds doesn't help without quake. can't do shade skip to blue lake at salubra in steel soul mode. the fungal wastes CoT entrance isn't possible with just monarch wings. i can't navigate deepnest to get tram pass with just monarch wings.

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what am i missing?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:49 AM

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sewers

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go kill dungdefender

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:49 AM

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how do i get to City of Tears though?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:50 AM

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it's entirely possible that either the weaversong or trampass om deepnest is required

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have you done the baulders yet?

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:51 AM

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i can't kill baldurs

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:51 AM

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what do you have charm wise?

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:53 AM

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this is theoretical. i'm studying the requirements in the rando. it says i can get to monarch wings with just monarch wings: https://github.com/MyEyes/RandomizerMod/blob/f793b917a07da7ebd8a45ea6f8747c159306224e/Randomizer/randomizer.xml#L186-L188

GitHub

MyEyes/RandomizerMod

RandomizerMod - This is a mod for Hollow Knight that randomizes Charms and Abilities.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:54 AM

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i wonder if you could do the "vanilla" way into COT with just wings

broken fable Nov 11, 2017, 8:55 AM

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i'll go try, but it looks way impossible from looking at screenshots.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:56 AM

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Mod API 1.2.2.1-5 (BETA) - Unless bugs are found, this is it for now. Added the version info when pausing.

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

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anyhow, about to pass out at the chair

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later

noble trout Nov 11, 2017, 9:09 AM

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bonefire doesnt work for shit

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it crashes no matter what i do?

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is anyone intrested in the crash report?

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 9:15 AM

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when does it crash

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where does it crash

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what version are you running

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 9:16 AM

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Probably just installed the wrong api

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Half the problems people have seem to be that

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Too hard to match two numbers, I guess

noble trout Nov 11, 2017, 9:16 AM

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on start up

young walrus Nov 11, 2017, 9:17 AM

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What version of the game do you have? Have you updated the api since 12 hours ago?

noble trout Nov 11, 2017, 9:17 AM

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the mod is 1.2.1.4and im using 1.2.2.1 but you said before that should be an issue

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and yes i did update the api

young walrus Nov 11, 2017, 9:19 AM

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The mod of bonfire shouldn't be an issue, but the api has to be updated. There's also a chance that the fsm things gradow is using was somehow broken with the update

noble trout Nov 11, 2017, 9:29 AM

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i think it is

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because the api is updated

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 9:31 AM

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Oh, I see

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Either Gradow hasn't finished his port yet or it's not up on the google drive

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There's no API version of bonfire here

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 10:58 AM

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do any mods currently work with 1.2.2.1

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if not i will throw toilet paper at you

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nvm it seems more saves works

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 11:15 AM

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most api mods should work

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 12:45 PM

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how do i un-hide the debug menu

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 12:45 PM

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f1

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 12:46 PM

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thanks

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is there a way to give bosses hp bars

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 12:49 PM

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yes

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 12:49 PM

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does just toggling enemy health bars work

leaden hedge Nov 11, 2017, 12:49 PM

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yes

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 12:49 PM

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oh

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weird

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didn't seem to work with zote

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oh i have to have the debug menu open

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i just need enemies menu open

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cool

#

it

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doesn't work with zote

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 1:21 PM

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Don't use bonfire api yet

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I haven't updated it since the update, so maybe it's broken

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Also, saving is not yet implemented in the api ver

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Does the assembly ver work?

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 1:50 PM

#

so debug mod is a cool mod

📎 Hollow_Knight_11_11_2017_11_49_42_PM.png

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really great

📎 Hollow_Knight_11_11_2017_11_50_47_PM.png

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53oZ1tJz78&feature=youtu.be really fun

YouTube

Wranobble

what the fuck have i done (Hollow Knight Spoilers)

▶ Play video

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i wonder what happens if i clone radiance a bunch

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JlDaoIhvSQ&feature=youtu.be why

YouTube

Wranobble

Don't wake them.

▶ Play video

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:25 PM

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umm... It's working

📎 unknown.png

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 2:25 PM

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oh cool

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 2:27 PM

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the only thing that's broken is that hit resistence procs, but doesn't resist shit

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 2:27 PM

#

e c h

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwkiOPSlzMc&feature=youtu.be i should stop

YouTube

Wranobble

So I heard you liked Crystal Guardian 2.

▶ Play video

humble sinew Nov 11, 2017, 2:46 PM

#

hollowwoke

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 3:14 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az86vQyxZq0&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

Wranobble

I've discovered a Hornet nest.

▶ Play video

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:17 PM

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How do you do that in debug mod?

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@late sphinx

hazy sentinel Nov 11, 2017, 3:17 PM

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click the plus sign on the enemy list

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:18 PM

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ok

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:29 PM

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can anyone test bonfire on the latest api for me?

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📎 BonfireMod.dll

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specifically, the hit resistance

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it still does not save btw

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I still haven't had to time to experiment with that

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oh, I think I got it

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@buoyant wasp , can I make a small change in one of the hooks?

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:33 PM

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@hazy sentinel
So when I am installing debug mod, there is a folder named Debug Mod, where do I put that

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:33 PM

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specifically, I want a void method to not be void anymore

#

😛

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juust put everything on the game's root folder

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:34 PM

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so in hollow_knight_data?

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:35 PM

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no, before that

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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ok

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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in the zip there's a hollow_knight_data

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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But wont that erase everything else

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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thats in hollow_knight_data

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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no, it'll only replace what needs to be replaced

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:36 PM

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ok then

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:37 PM

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that's actually the point of putting the mod inside hollow_knight_data

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so you can just drag and drop

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:39 PM

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wait is debug mod not updated for the 1.2.2.1 version

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:39 PM

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every mod should work on 1.2.2.1

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:39 PM

#

when I select a new save it gives me a black screen

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:40 PM

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do you have mod versions on top left?

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:40 PM

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ye

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 3:42 PM

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i keep accidentally killing thk too fast to get to the radiance

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:42 PM

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xD

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 3:42 PM

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don't know why i didn't use tr instead of the radiance

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oh well

#

i have to hit it 5 times

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then dead

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:43 PM

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welp I think I give up

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 3:45 PM

#

oh fuck i forgot to equip the void heart

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:46 PM

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is it supposed to say I am using debug mod 1.2.1

#

?

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:48 PM

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the one mod most likely to not work is Debug

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:49 PM

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how do I fix it

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I want to fight multiple bosses at once

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:54 PM

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just revert back to 1.2.1.4

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:55 PM

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ok

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I think its working now

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 3:57 PM

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i'm using debug with 1.2.2.1

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 3:58 PM

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then it's something wrong with your installation @ornate rivet

#

can you send me your modlogs and output_log?

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5175sdGNjE&feature=youtu.be this is the last one i swear

YouTube

Wranobble

how radiant

▶ Play video

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:01 PM

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please, no

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don't stop

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give us mantis lords

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:01 PM

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oh

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i did do mantis lords

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just didn't record it

#

can respawn them but don't feel like it

#

hollowface

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:02 PM

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I figured it out

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:02 PM

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maybe later

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:02 PM

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I renamed the new assembly c sharp

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xD

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instead of replacing it

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I am dumb

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thanks for the help @solemn rivet

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:03 PM

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you're really smart

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:03 PM

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sorry for wasting your time

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:03 PM

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don't worry

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I'm also wasting my time

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:04 PM

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me too

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:05 PM

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also

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bullet hell much

late sphinx Nov 11, 2017, 4:08 PM

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it's not that hard

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all you have to do is dodge

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and not get hit

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easy enough

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 4:26 PM

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here's the API with the changes I mentioned

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

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the only thing it does is change AfterTakeDamageHandler from a void to an int

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well, THAT and everything that depends on it, obvsly

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:02 PM

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ok, so was this one based on the last one i posted this morning?

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 5:04 PM

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yeah

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this one

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buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:04 PM

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k

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i'll look through it real quick. if it looks good, then I think we'll say that it's stable

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though i am going to change the hook itself a little. since we're modifying the amounts, it's going to behave like TakeDamageHook and loop through the invokations in case multiple mods subscribe to it

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 5:07 PM

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okay

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oh, yeah

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shoulda done that

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sorry

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:07 PM

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np

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Modding API - 1.2.2.1-6 - (GOLD). Ok. At this point, seems like the api is stable for 1.2.2.1. @rain cedar @dapper folio .

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 5:43 PM

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Looks like the gdrive for this is out of date. PlayerDataDump - 28/10/17.a

📎 PlayerDataDump.dll

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is it just me, or did the amount of geo from the first baulder get nerfed?

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 6:00 PM

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eh

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wouldn't know

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 6:19 PM

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i want to say that they used to drop more, but when i did it an hour ago, it was like 5

copper nacelle Nov 11, 2017, 6:23 PM

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what is canBackDash

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is it for dashmaster? or is it just an ability that wasn't added or something

solemn rivet Nov 11, 2017, 6:32 PM

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it does nothing

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probably something that was dropped in development

copper nacelle Nov 11, 2017, 6:32 PM

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cool

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thanks

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 8:20 PM

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About the API.

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Wouldnt be better to have folders inside Mods rather on Hollow Knight directly?

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Atm, Randomizer and DebugMod put them under /Hollow Knight directly.

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But imo, everything should go in /Mods

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Rather than root.

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API could offer read/write services that read/writes in /Mods/<ModName>

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 8:46 PM

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Gathering swarm as reward in boss rush 😦

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:49 PM

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yeah, i was thinking similar last night when i was changing the loader

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well, as far as resources go

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saving stuff the accepted standard is to save to the save folder

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 8:52 PM

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save folder?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:53 PM

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the folder, where saves go

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 8:55 PM

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You want to put resource files in the save folder?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 8:55 PM

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no, i mean, put the resources files under Mods/ModName

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as you suggested

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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@rain cedar - been said before, but if there is a way to remove the hard save at shade cloak, that'd be great 😃

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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I just softlocked in boss rush at

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I just softlocked at boss rush against collectors.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 9:28 PM

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actually, you might not be

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i think the spiders might eventually kill him

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but yeah, collector is so buggy in vanilla

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there's a ton of ways to get him into that state

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@leaden hedge was talking about maybe finding a way to fix him

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 9:35 PM

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What charm drains your soul?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Glowing Womb

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 9:58 PM

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Its such a bad charm.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:01 PM

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eh, it has it's uses

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i don't like it for boss rush cause you can't turn it off

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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You cant turn it off?

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Just open charm menu?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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you can change charms in boss rush?

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this is news to me

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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Ya.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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huh, neat

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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Alright, I'm finally getting around to looking into the shade cloak fsm

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Looks super easy to remove the hard save

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I just gotta cut out the set respawn state and go straight to PlayerData

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:03 PM

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that'd be slick

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:03 PM

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Another way to remove charm is to use the bench after killing crystal guardian.

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:03 PM

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yeah, but that's a 1 time thing

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while you're in there editing things, remove that bench over at the nailmaster that xero soft locked at? 😃 (for whenever we get the nail arts in)

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:04 PM

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Yeah, I'll get rid of that if you make it there without crystal heart

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:05 PM

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cool

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Is that for the randomizer?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Yes

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:05 PM

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afaik, those are the only 2 softlocks we know of right?

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well, and keys

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but

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w/e

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:06 PM

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Btw, any chance to tweak the random to give sprintmaster early?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:07 PM

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It's already more likely to be early than late because it's a useless item

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It's nowhere near a guarantee though

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But such is randomness

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:09 PM

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yeah, most seeds i see it in the first 20-25 minutes, i never get it, but i see it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:19 PM

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Guess I should also do something about this

📎 211827d2519677b6a1301ce85ff0fc79.png

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:21 PM

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lol, yeah

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apparently typing in regex in this box doesn't work

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:23 PM

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So for logging at the info level, the LogLevel enum has it but there's no LogInfo function

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:23 PM

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Log is LogInfo,

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:23 PM

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Alright, thanks

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:23 PM

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np

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the biggest thing right now, is there is no way to set the level to anything else in terms of what is actually written to the file, it's currently hard coded to always be Debug and above. But to do that i need to write something to do non-save-specific settings

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which i was going to do last night

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then they dropped the patch on us 😛

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:26 PM

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Yeah, some kind of global config would be cool if you want to take it that far

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I know debug mod would have uses for that at least

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:26 PM

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oh, definitely going to

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if we ever do something where you can do enable/disable of mods, we'd need that, i want it for logging control, and i'm sure there's something else it could be useful for.

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and honestly after solving the serialization crap for the save files, it won't be nearly as hard to do

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:30 PM

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It would also be cool for the logger to automatically put something like [RandomizerMod] at the beginning of the output, but I'm not sure it's possible to do that cleanly

trim nimbus Nov 11, 2017, 10:30 PM

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hey I have a question

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does bonfire mod remove charms and nail upgrades?

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:30 PM

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No

trim nimbus Nov 11, 2017, 10:30 PM

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ahh

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:31 PM

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it might be, i did something like that at work once using the calling assembly or something. would have to play with it

rain cedar Nov 11, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Alright

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The only thing I can think of is looking at the stack trace

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Oh god I left a log here

📎 0c7d75d76634604ec9dc89a0ee8eaa63.png

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No way that would negatively impact the load time there massively

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:36 PM

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where is ruins01?

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 10:37 PM

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📎 Ruins1_01.png

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Its that map.

trim nimbus Nov 11, 2017, 10:39 PM

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should I do bonfire or randomizer mod?

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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lol, there might be a few objects in there

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randomizer is currently working on this patch

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bonfire would require downpatching

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there isn't a 1.2.2.1 version of it that works with the api and saving

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yet

trim nimbus Nov 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

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oh

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well that answers my question

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thank you

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doing randomizer then

unreal dune Nov 11, 2017, 11:05 PM

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Has boss rush been updated

buoyant wasp Nov 11, 2017, 11:08 PM

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it didn't need to be

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just grab the newest API from me earlier in this channel

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and the last bossrush should work just fine

swift cairn Nov 11, 2017, 11:36 PM

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@buoyant obsidian any chance of having an API version of lightbringer?

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 11:37 PM

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Is the source public?

swift cairn Nov 11, 2017, 11:37 PM

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what u mean

slate owl Nov 11, 2017, 11:39 PM

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The source code.

swift cairn Nov 11, 2017, 11:39 PM

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idk

buoyant obsidian Nov 11, 2017, 11:39 PM

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I'm really not up for the amount of work it would take for the API implementation, especially with university going on

swift cairn Nov 11, 2017, 11:41 PM

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k

bright prawn Nov 11, 2017, 11:58 PM

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anyone know if there's a glass soul mod for the current version of the game?

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 12:02 AM

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I could get it updated within 12 hours if you're patient

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 12:03 AM

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oh, sweet~

fair rampart Nov 12, 2017, 12:07 AM

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anyone here recommend any good mods?

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ping me if you do

unreal dune Nov 12, 2017, 12:08 AM

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Where is the new updated API?

hazy sentinel Nov 12, 2017, 12:09 AM

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pins

unreal dune Nov 12, 2017, 12:10 AM

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Do I have to do any "uninstall" process for the old API, or do I just """"install"""" the new one

ornate rivet Nov 12, 2017, 12:10 AM

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which .asset file has the player's sprite sheet in it again?

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I forgot

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I found it

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 1:01 AM

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idk if it's pinned yet

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some dragons hasn't been on

kindred palm Nov 12, 2017, 1:02 AM

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Some Dargons

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 1:02 AM

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search for :From Wyza :has file

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 1:03 AM

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I put it in the drive a few hours ago

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 1:03 AM

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ah, cool

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wasn't sure who all had perms for that

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 1:04 AM

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Some Dargons gives permission to most who've made mods, I think

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You just have to ask

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 1:31 AM

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@bright prawn http://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-glass-soul/

Mod DB

Hollow Knight: Glass Soul mod

Is Hollow Knight too easy for you? Feel the wrath of Glass Soul mode, where you die in only a single hit.

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Updated for 1.2.2.1

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 1:36 AM

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damn, that was quick, awesome : O

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:00 AM

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Small glitch, your game percentage completion might be off by 7%

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I'll fix that in an hour

solemn rivet Nov 12, 2017, 2:17 AM

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@buoyant wasp can you help me with save implementation?

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 2:24 AM

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You need to change your class declaration to something like
public class RandomizerMod<T> : Mod<T> where T : IModSettings, new()

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Then you can access the Settings object

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Which is the save data

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:29 AM

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Faulty Wallet was changed into a mana charm :)

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 2:32 AM

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Which charm does that replace?

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:32 AM

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The one that makes you gain lots of soul on-hit

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 2:32 AM

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Soul eater?

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:32 AM

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I think so

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Alright

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:43 AM

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so apparently they changed the spritesheet layouts again

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from one sheet to 100 different images

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 2:44 AM

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That sounds much less annoying to edit

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:44 AM

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Not at all

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when it comes to replacing them at least

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like 5 clicks per replaced asset

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and they all have dumb names that don't match what they do :D

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Could someone else use Unity Studio / UABE to confirm there are only 2 Texture2D files named SpriteAtlas in resources.assets?

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It could be a decompiling error on my side

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 2:56 AM

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@solemn rivet - sorry, wasn't paying attention, what's up

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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And those are the only 2 now? Damn

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 3:01 AM

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which sprites are you even replacing

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 3:01 AM

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Charms

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inventory nails

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:27 AM

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oh nice glass soul is up to date

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 3:27 AM

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Lightbringer is 30 minutes away too

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:29 AM

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currently downloading

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i wonder if anyone has done steel glass soul yet

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 3:29 AM

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I'm sure it's only fireb0rn

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:29 AM

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wait someone actuallly beat it

knotty tapir Nov 12, 2017, 3:30 AM

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any% WR yeah

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:30 AM

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on steel soul

knotty tapir Nov 12, 2017, 3:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBwoL2ueoDQ

YouTube

fireb0rn

Hollow Knight - Hitless Any% Speedrun [Glass/Steel Soul] - 45:29.16 - World First

RULES: Any% No Major Glitches (speedrunning ruleset), Glass Soul Mod (any damage = death), Steel Soul (file deleted on death). ~~ shoutouts to Ushebti ~~ W...

▶ Play video

hazy sentinel Nov 12, 2017, 3:31 AM

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but that doesn't say WR, only world first intenseface

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:48 AM

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does fury of the fallen do anything

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 3:48 AM

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Nope

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 3:48 AM

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o

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 3:49 AM

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Charms that increase health / lifeblood increase your damage

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http://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-lightbringer

Mod DB

Hollow Knight: Lightbringer mod

Hollow Knight: Lightbringer lets you experience Hollow Knight like never before, replacing your melee attacks with a ranged lance of light.

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Updated.

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 4:17 AM

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And Glass Soul has just been updated to fix the completion percentage bug.

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 4:21 AM

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someone test 👀

📎 MoreSaves.dll

dapper folio Nov 12, 2017, 4:40 AM

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Glass Soul and Lightbringer have been updated? woo! anything else I need to update on the drive?

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 4:40 AM

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@rain cedar - so i was looking at the logging stuff. and there are really 2 options. We can use the stacktrace approach or something cleaner, but would require modders to make a small adjustment ot the way they log. basically I'd add some static wrappers to the base Mod<T> class which would look like this:

private static string ModName = this.GetType().Name;
public static LogDebug(string message) {
    ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug(string.Format("[{0}] - {1}", ModName, message);
}

then instead of using

ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug("[RandomizerMod] - HI I'm a debug message");

you'd do

RandomizerMod.LogDebug("Hi I'm a debug Message");

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but then everything that comes out of RandomizerMod would always have the [] in it, the developer wouldn't have to remember that

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you could still use ModHooks.Logger.LogDebug if you really wanted, but the "better" way would be there too

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 4:42 AM

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That way sounds good to me

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It doesn't break any logging that's already there

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Or add redundant mod names to unupdated mods

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 4:43 AM

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yup

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k

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 5:28 AM

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Is Desolative Dive guarateed from its original location?

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Because it sets a hard respawn point and only way to get out is with dive.

swift cairn Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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yes

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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desolate dive? no

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you mean the first dive?

swift cairn Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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yeah

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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the floor is broken

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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no, it's not guaranteed

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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if you don't get dive

swift cairn Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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the second one is descending dark

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 5:38 AM

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if you don't have dive, there are no floors to break

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in that area

swift cairn Nov 12, 2017, 5:39 AM

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really?

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 5:39 AM

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there is nothign guaranteed anywhere

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assuming we're talking about randomizer, yes

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:19 AM

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@leaden hedge - seems to work, page text goes away now, saveing and quiting and coming back shows the UI again, the page icons are a ballin change that works fine switching between KB and Controller

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Modding API 1.2.2.1-7 (SUPER ALPHA/Experiemental) . @rain cedar here's the API with 2 big changes. There is the change to logging where you will be able to do (for example) RandomizerMod.Instance.LogDebug("Something"). There is also now support for saving settings that are "global" (non-save-specific). For that, instead of Mod<T> you'd use Mod<T,TG> where TG is also IModSettings. The settings are initially loaded (if they exist) during the Initialize() call. GlobalSettings are not saved automatically, a call to RandomizerMod.Instance.SaveGlobalSettings() has to be called when you want to persist. Files are saved in the Save Folder and are called ModName.GlobalSettings.json.

With this i went ahead and got the ModHooks class to have a clone of those methods so that the ModdingAPI itself can store settings. In this case it has 1 setting for LogLevel now. That defaults to "INFO".

the structure of the files is still bleh, because i'm using the crap Unity serializer. We could switch to something else, like JSON.net since we're not intermingling with the save files anymore. It would make the json look significantly better, but then we add this other library as a dependency. Not sold on it's need at this point. As long as we can save/load, the exact format of the file isn't massively important.

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Awesome. I'll try getting rebindable keys in debug with this

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:35 AM

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cool

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i honestly didn't have a mod i could test with on the mod global settings, so while it does almost the exact same thing as the Modhooks settings, well, you know how it goes 😃

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hence the "super alpha" tag

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 7:37 AM

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Yeah, makes sense

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:37 AM

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also why i really want someone to work on doing mod-save settings . cause i tested it a little in my local copy of randomizer, but i don't think anyone else has fully tackled it

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so, "seems to work" and "actuall using it" are 2 different things

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 7:38 AM

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Yeah, I was planning to add proper save functionality to randomizer today but I got distracted by golf and quiplash

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:38 AM

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haha, yeah

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i went a head and pushed all these changes into a new branch. https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/tree/global-mod-settings

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 7:41 AM

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Alright

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 7:47 AM

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why not just use playerprefs for global values

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:54 AM

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cause then we're gonna be screwing with even more of the game's internal structure, was trying to avoid that. Also lets us be lazy about a few things. Like if you want to change the logging level. now all you have to do is open the moddingapi config and change 1 value. if we use playerprefs, then the only way to manage them is with a UI

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which, might make folks less likely to make options available in any form

noble trout Nov 12, 2017, 7:58 AM

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how do i backup my save files

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i did it once but dont remember where it is located any more

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 7:59 AM

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%appdata%/../locallow/team cherry

noble trout Nov 12, 2017, 8:31 AM

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thanks

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 10:44 AM

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jesus christ i beat soul master first try on glass soul

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i'm having less trouble with the bosses than everything else hollowdab

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 10:53 AM

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glass soul steel soul? intenseface

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 10:53 AM

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no

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not gonna do that

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goddamnit i lost 1900+ geo

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before that i had lost around 1000

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life is fun

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is this what you wanted 753

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go suck a brick

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spikes

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and then one of those lance s h i t s

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i can't buy anything useful with 12 geo

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maybe a lollipop

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though

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FACGK YPOU

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i w a s g o n n a b u y s o m u c h s h i t

📎 unknown.png

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no i farmed geo and payed the fee

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i'd be less pissed if i hadn't wasted 3 hallownest seals intenseface

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actually erase this mod from existence

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 AM

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I totally agree with having less trouble with bosses... I keep getting randomly hit by every random little thing

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 AM

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i retract my less trouble with mosses

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bosses

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fuK

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 AM

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lol

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 AM

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fukn dung defender

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impossible

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 AM

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oh god

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I am not very far

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glass soul is pretty painful

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 11:41 AM

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get ready to want to murder someone

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 11:41 AM

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yeah... maybe should do a no health upgrades, melee only, overcharmed run first

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 11:42 AM

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I'd recommend spamming dive pretty much for dd

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go get desc dark first

late sphinx Nov 12, 2017, 11:42 AM

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t h a t 's w h a t i ' m d o i n g

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:06 PM

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v0.8.x.y
Added skip button + skip button prompts

📎 BossRush.dll

noble trout Nov 12, 2017, 2:31 PM

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if you need a skip button its bad design

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looking at you super mario maker

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:31 PM

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the skip is for if you get 3 bad items

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like womb / deep focus / jonis

noble trout Nov 12, 2017, 2:32 PM

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or 3 that are a must

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like getting a dive double jump and shadow dash

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:33 PM

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except, you only need djump or claw

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and you don't even need dive or shadow dash

noble trout Nov 12, 2017, 2:35 PM

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if you dont have either dive or shadow dash you cant dodge the radiance tracking light beam

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:36 PM

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alright and

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you can beat the boss without either of those

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 2:39 PM

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is that dll all you need for boss rush?

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:39 PM

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you need modding api

bright prawn Nov 12, 2017, 2:40 PM

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oh, I see

knotty grove Nov 12, 2017, 2:40 PM

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you can beat the boss, unless you're running glass soul boss rush (lul)

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I don't know if you can combine those two mods mind you

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 2:41 PM

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you can't

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but then you'd just pick up the item that lets you be invincible

knotty grove Nov 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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in time, I'm sure.. well you can still beat the boss if you have either doublejump or shadow dash

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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no you need both

knotty grove Nov 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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I meant dive/sd

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you get iframes from dive

leaden hedge Nov 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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oh yeah its easy with either

stray mirage Nov 12, 2017, 6:06 PM

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@copper nacelle here is a fun fact for you

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graphical corruption of unity textures is a known bug when the texture assets total more than four gigabytes

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but it is not, to date, reproducable

hazy sentinel Nov 12, 2017, 6:07 PM

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reproducable

stray mirage Nov 12, 2017, 6:08 PM

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in theory, using a worse graphics card would make it more likely

copper nacelle Nov 12, 2017, 6:10 PM

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hmm

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cat /dev/urandom > sharedassets333.assets

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till it gets to 5 GB

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@stray mirage

📎 unknown.png

buoyant obsidian Nov 12, 2017, 6:34 PM

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All it did was slow down the loading for me

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 6:36 PM

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@slate owl - That list of secondary items (relics/masks/etc) you generated, can a list in a similar format be generated for the grubs?

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 6:42 PM

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@buoyant wasp Ya. But I did the list by hand so it can take a while to do lol.

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 6:58 PM

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What do you need it for?

copper nacelle Nov 12, 2017, 7:01 PM

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the 4gb thing didn't work

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the assets within the actual thing I changed weren't even affected at all

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:15 PM

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ah, darn. well, we were talking about making grubsong viable as a progression item in the rando, but to do that, we have to go through and make the rules for all the grub locations as to what is required to get the grub (since grubsong is 10 grubs, this seemed small enough to be ok out of the 40 something)

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 7:17 PM

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Thatd be cool.

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:17 PM

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so i was hoping the method you used wasn't manual

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 7:17 PM

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What about the 500 essences?

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:18 PM

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no, that's already been ruled out

slate owl Nov 12, 2017, 7:19 PM

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How so?

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 7:19 PM

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it was decided that nothing required to win would sit behind the dream essence rewards

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:17 PM

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@rain cedar or @leaden hedge - any thoughts on how difficult it would be to edit the content of the credits scroll?

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:18 PM

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That really depends on how it's implemented

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It's likely that you can just edit parts of it in the language hook

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:19 PM

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was thinking if/when we get rid of the spoiler log for randomizer, to put the results in the credits (similar to what Super Metroid did)

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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The "Thanks for playing!" screen at the end is localized so that for sure can be changed with the language hook

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Names are less likely

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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yeah, was hoping we could leave the names intact

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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Or we could just add our own screen before the credits

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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and just append

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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Like Kein used to in the boss rush

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:20 PM

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or that

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I don't really want to "take away" from the credits for TC

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Yeah, that makes sense

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Nobody pays attention to credits anyway but it would still be pretty rude

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:21 PM

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exactly

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so either Prepending or Appending a screen would work too

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or if they did it where the scroll is easy to append to, appending the list at the end of the scroll

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or the beginning, w/e

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:23 PM

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It's probably easiest to do something like:
If credits are loaded, unload everything
Display custom stuff with OnGUI
Go back to credits scene when a button is clicked

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 9:26 PM

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if we go that route, should probably do as much of the common pieces as possible in the api so that all mods could use it. (since, who knows, boss rush might want it, or bonfire to display final stats, or w/e)

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 9:27 PM

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Makes sense

buoyant wasp Nov 12, 2017, 10:25 PM

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@leaden hedge - did a PR on github to fix a couple bugs in bossrush. Though the one i originally set out to figure out, which is why grimm1 doesn't drop items, was the one i didn't figure out :/

timber gale Nov 12, 2017, 11:40 PM

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How do I update the API?

rain cedar Nov 12, 2017, 11:41 PM

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You just download the new one and install it the same way

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You can either use the very untested one posted above by Wyza or the stable one in the mods folder

rustic fossil Nov 13, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Ay, I'm gonna start modding

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Does anyone know where enemy code is located?

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I'm surprised it's so hard to find given how easy it seems to be to locate anything related to the player itself

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Is it maybe an external script?

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That would actually make sense

hazy sentinel Nov 13, 2017, 12:47 AM

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probably fsms

buoyant wasp Nov 13, 2017, 12:50 AM

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yup, all the enemy logic are in the FSMs

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i think there's some stuff in the pins about a FSM dumper thing

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and a viewer

rustic fossil Nov 13, 2017, 12:51 AM

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Oh, nice, that would be helpful

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Hmm, there's something called FSM mod

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There's an assets extractor

buoyant wasp Nov 13, 2017, 12:55 AM

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i think the fsm mod lets you dump the fsms

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and then there is a thing form kdt to view them, lemme see

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https://github.com/KayDeeTee/HK-FSM-VIEWER

GitHub

KayDeeTee/HK-FSM-VIEWER

HK-FSM-VIEWER - view hollow knights playmaker fsm in a web browser

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that