#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 19

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:37 AM

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that would make sense

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:37 AM

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sean will probably want your modlog.txt

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:38 AM

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📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:38 AM

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No, I see the problem

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It's an easy fix

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Like super easy

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I just forgot to change something that's still checking player data

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Alright it's up

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And now I've moved to bed for the third time

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Don't go finding any more bugs I need to fix

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 12:23 PM

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420 to buy the 2nd best spell hollowface

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 12:28 PM

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Say I didn't have dive, would these glass floors also be broken?

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leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 12:28 PM

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after soul master?

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 PM

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yeah

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 PM

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yes

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 PM

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ok

modern hound Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 PM

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Descending Dank gives I frames

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Its the most op

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 12:30 PM

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desolate dive does too

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 1:46 PM

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I'm guessing Elder Baldurs won't spit baldurs if you have dive instead of fireball?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 1:50 PM

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sean wanted to do that

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but decided it against it iirc

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he knows it works though

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:01 PM

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oh, did he randomize the spells too now?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:02 PM

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yes we got it working a few hours ago

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ismas tear should work next version too

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:02 PM

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jesus

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what Im supposed to do now after false knight cirThink

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:03 PM

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getting vengeful + soul catcher is still 2 charms

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or whatever you get

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:04 PM

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oh, I thought the vengeful spot is also randomized

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is the new version already on the drive?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:04 PM

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yes

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vengeful is randomized

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you can get anything from it

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:06 PM

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KDT: @Gradow when you wake up or whatever, what do you reckon to making the more powerful spells require higher intwhat do you mean?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:07 PM

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so, if you get shade soul

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but you're too stupid

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you just cast vengeful instead

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:07 PM

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hmm...

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how about the other way around

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you get shade soul by levelling up int

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:08 PM

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did you find the pin @sturdy whale

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:08 PM

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yes

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:08 PM

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and instead of just giving you the upgraded versions of spells, the game gives you a certain amount of "levels"

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:09 PM

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maybe,

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:09 PM

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no, that doesn't sound good

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you could use those to make an already OP str/dex/lck build even more op

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:09 PM

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I'm not sure, it's just thats a pretty common trope in these sorts of games, that you require X in a stat to use a spell

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if anything its a nerf to nail builds

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because you cant use the op spells

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unless you spec into int

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:10 PM

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yeah

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but that would make the shade soul drop useless, no? I mean, reather than useles... you go out of your way to get it, but can't use it due to lack of stats

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that sounds more and more like an arpg

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:11 PM

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I guess the pale ore would be useless on a spell build hollowface

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:11 PM

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yeah

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no, I agree with you

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that sounds like a good idea

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sigh

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I should have made this using the modding api

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bonfire mod would synergize greatly with randomizer

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:12 PM

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well, in a few days / weeks

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you're going to have to recode it anyway for grimm troupe

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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but that shouldn't be tremendously more work

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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Now that I've downloaded randomizer which files do I extract and where?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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so they should just go into the root folder of hollow knight

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the one with the exe

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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^

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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ok

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:14 PM

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it should ask you to overwrite hollow_knight_Data

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just say yes to everything

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also

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make a backup

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of C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\assembly-csharp.dll

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:14 PM

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on steam you can always verify, so it's not a huge issue if you don't make a backup

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but it's quicker and safer if you do

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:15 PM

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also @solemn rivet the earlier you port it to the api, the less of a pain it'll be

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you've got less features than you will in future hollowface

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:15 PM

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but I don't know how to

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I have 0 coding experience

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I literally don't know what to do

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:16 PM

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Is fury of the fallen supposed to give you always a movement ability? I think I never got something else

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:16 PM

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I can try and reverse-engineer the mods that are currently ported

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:16 PM

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no

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:16 PM

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but that would take a LOOOOOONG time and effort

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:17 PM

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so both README.txt and hollow_knight_data go to hollow knight folder

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:17 PM

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yup

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:17 PM

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the readme doesn't need to go but yeah

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:17 PM

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done

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:17 PM

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then, done

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try launching the game

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:19 PM

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all you need is a cs file that look like

using System;
using Modding;

namespace BonfireMod
{
    public class BonfireMod : Mod {
        public override void Initialize() {
                ModHooks.Instance.whateverHookYouWant += YourFunction
        }
    }
}

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and compile it as a dll

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your functions work the exact same as they do in dnspy

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:20 PM

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collected fury of the fallen

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and it says its fury of the fallen

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:20 PM

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you can tell if its a randomizer

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it says randomizer at the bottom

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did you extract the randomizer zip

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:21 PM

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is the randomizer not working?

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yes I did extract

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:21 PM

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so you have a C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\Randomizer this folder

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:21 PM

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KDT: I'll give it a try this next week

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:22 PM

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if you start the game, does it say at the bottom right of the title screen "randomizer" ?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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Nope

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leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods do you have this folder

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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no

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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ok so where did you extract the Randomizer zip

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not the Modding API one

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:23 PM

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wait

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I do

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but nothing is there

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:24 PM

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oh, you didn't extract the randomizer then

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randomizer should have a readme and 2 folders

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:24 PM

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i got the modding api

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is that not it?

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oh its not it

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:24 PM

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the randomizer needs the modding api

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you extract the randomizer zip to the same place

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:25 PM

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do I put the randomizer in the mods folder?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:26 PM

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you extract the zip to the same place

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so there should be a Randomizer folder by your exe and a Randomizer.dll inside the Mods folder

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:27 PM

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extracting to hollow knight folder

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:27 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/P7iS0Tz.png

Imgur

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it should look like this

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dont mind the backup folder

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https://i.imgur.com/KlFRQrz.png

Imgur

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also yea, you need the modding api

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which is in the drive too (at the bottom right)

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:28 PM

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I believe he already extracted the modding api

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:28 PM

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hmm

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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but forgot to install the randomizer

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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also, he changed the elder baldurs, now I understand

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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done

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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ok now it should work

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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what's this easy randomizer?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:29 PM

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its the difficultly of the tricks required to complete the game

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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easy shouldnt require difficult tricks to progress

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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or possible difficulty

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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hard then

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I played the game twice

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shouldnt have any difficulty

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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er

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you might

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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hehe

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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if you've never speedran before

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:30 PM

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well shit

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oh whatever

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:31 PM

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you potentially need to do queen station -> fungal, fireball skip

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:31 PM

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Im in the same boat as you tho, I did now 3 randomizer runs, all took me around 3 hours

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before I played once 100% + 100% steel mode and a 5 hour speedrun for the achievement

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:31 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqatEshyGJg

YouTube

Sean Riley

:^)

▶ Play video

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:31 PM

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skip the wraith then?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:32 PM

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this is a thing you might have to do

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:32 PM

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holy

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:32 PM

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or shade skip

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into blue lake

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:32 PM

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you can't if mantis claw is there

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:33 PM

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you can do it with double jump too

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:33 PM

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dram nail chamr?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:33 PM

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its random

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:33 PM

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charms and abilities are mixed up

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:33 PM

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so I start out with dream nail

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:34 PM

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charms, skills and spells are all in the same pool

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:34 PM

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lets beat the game

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:34 PM

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you need claw, c.dash and dream nail

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to beat the game

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

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monarch wings are not critical?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

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nope

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

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hmm interesting

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Im not too familiar yet with the game

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

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you don't get them in nmg

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

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oh yea, thats true

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:36 PM

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and you could skip dash in nmg

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but doing c peak without it is cancer

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:36 PM

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getting dash saves more time than not

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:37 PM

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I dont even know how you want to do c peak without the dash 🤔

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:37 PM

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I mean its possible to beat the game nmg without getting dash hollowface

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not that'd be faster if you decided to put yourself through it

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and yes, claw can spawn on c.dash

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and yeah you can not have dash before then

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hopefully that happens to the race in a few hours hollowface

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no one can finish the run

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:38 PM

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can you get to the c.dash then? without claws?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:38 PM

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first boss dead

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:38 PM

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if you get monarch wings yes

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:38 PM

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brooding mawlet

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he gave me a mask

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:39 PM

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masks are not random

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same with soul vessel shards

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will the race be now on the new version?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:39 PM

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masks, vessels, notches, rancid eggs, ismas tear, void soul / king soul and some keys are static

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the race should be on the new version

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:40 PM

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how long does a randomizer run take you normally kdt?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:40 PM

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around 1hr30 -> 2hr

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depends on how long it takes to find dream nail

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I think this version is slower due to spells being random

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:41 PM

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the last two runs I did I was struggling finding the claws hollowface

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:41 PM

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Yo, you guys got it updated then?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:41 PM

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yes

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spells work now

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isma not yet

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:41 PM

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In Google Drive?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 PM

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yep

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 PM

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Sick

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Super excited

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 PM

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the baldur doesn't close in ancestral mound

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and the floors after soul master are broken if you dont have dive

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 PM

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Same with Greenpath baldur?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 PM

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nope

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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Ooh

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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you've gotta get dive or spirit to get past that one

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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you can damage baldurs with dive?

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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So.... Farm for geo and go through CP

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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jesus, Im always learning new shit

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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im not sure if with lv1 dive

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but lv2 you can 100%

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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let me drive

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I just got the dive from soul catcher

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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I got 4/6 spells in shops

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:43 PM

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let me try*

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:44 PM

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the last run I did

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:44 PM

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You guys weight them?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:44 PM

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I don't think they are weighted

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another run I did, none of them were in shops

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and vengeful spirit was at lifeblood core

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:45 PM

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nah, normal dive is not damaging

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:45 PM

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are you hitting it with the edge

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not diving ontop of it

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:47 PM

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https://streamable.com/lexe2

Streamable

2017-10-14_16-42-30.webm - Streamable

▶ Play video

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like that?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:48 PM

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get as close as you can whilst he'll stay open

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and try it then

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:48 PM

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Ooh lifeblood charms in there now?

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Core and Joni's blessing?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:48 PM

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oh yeah he added in some new charms

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:49 PM

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...good to know

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:49 PM

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wait, there's a rando race today?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:49 PM

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in like 2hrs

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heres a modlog

📎 ModLog.txt

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:49 PM

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Yeah 2 hours

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:49 PM

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you can see whats new

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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oh shit

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can't wait

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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I would like to participate but Im a turtle

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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anyone streaming it?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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risky

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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so city crest is in the same place

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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oh btw @young walrus the spells work like dash

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:50 PM

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https://streamable.com/f4zmo

Streamable

2017-10-14_16-45-41.webm - Streamable

▶ Play video

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

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what about the wraith?

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

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3 dives

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

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in the ancestral mound?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

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so if you get lv2 spell you get the lv1 one instead

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and the lv1 becomes the lv2 one

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yeah dive does more damage

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and wraiths is random

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it can be any item

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

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so I can get stuck if I get something that doesnt kill the baldur?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:52 PM

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no

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:52 PM

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So dream nail.... Is that the same?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:52 PM

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the baldur doesn't close

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:52 PM

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the baldur is not turtling in anymore

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only that one tho

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:52 PM

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easy mode has failsafes so you won't get stuck, no matter how bad luck you're having

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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you shouldn't be able to get stuck

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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"shouldnt"

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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theoretically

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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I got gubberfly elegy

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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You guys fix the abyss softlock?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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instead of wrait

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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if you actually can legit get stuck you should post a bug report hollowface

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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im doing hard btw

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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yea, I had a hard lock yesterday

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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oh

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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but I think he fixed it?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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you mean the hardsave if you can't get out

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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Yeah

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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I don't think so

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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Lol

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

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in hard you can get stuck if you're not familiar with some bugs and glitches

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and exploits

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:54 PM

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I don't remember him mentioning it

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maybe he did it on the sly

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:54 PM

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will the race be on easy or hard?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:54 PM

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hard nmg

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 2:54 PM

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sweet

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srl?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 2:55 PM

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sharp shadow
most useless mod ever

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 2:55 PM

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I believe its using srl for now

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I think we want to not use it though if we can in the future because discrepencies in timing methods

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but for now its on srl

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:04 PM

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glad I got this

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wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:11 PM

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I think I might have gotten an impossible seed...

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:12 PM

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what happened?

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:13 PM

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I haven't been able to find mantis claw or double jump, and I'm pretty sure I've check all the charms/spells I can get

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:13 PM

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check the modlog

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:14 PM

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even had to buy a simple from sly to get to flukenest, lol

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hmm, spell twister is mantis claw and shade soul is double jump

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I can't get to either of them with just superdash and dash

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:15 PM

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guys

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📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:15 PM

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s+q

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:15 PM

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no wait

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this should be easy

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just go to menu

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:16 PM

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yes save and quit

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you'll go back to the menu

royal ridge Oct 14, 2017, 3:16 PM

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save+quit = s+q

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:16 PM

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hmm can't you get to CoT with just dash

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:16 PM

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You can with dive

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:16 PM

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I'm not sure if you can get to spell twister though without claw

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:17 PM

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you have to get first the mantis claw

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otherwise you gonna be stuck like me in the abyss

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:17 PM

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Oh wait, I misunderstood you KDT

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:17 PM

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but I dont know if you can get to the claw without jump

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:17 PM

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I think you can superdash to the door

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:17 PM

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I got to CoT, but I can't get up to soul sanctum

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:18 PM

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hmm, wheres the shade soul key

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:19 PM

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sly probably, but only after getting shopkeeper's key in crystal peak

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Which again, can't get to it

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:19 PM

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oh bestiary is the same

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:19 PM

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hmm

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maybe disabling spells from being movement ablities

cedar raven Oct 14, 2017, 3:20 PM

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the 2 baldurs for baldur shell still only spitting fire

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:20 PM

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do you have fireball?

cedar raven Oct 14, 2017, 3:20 PM

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i have shade soul even

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:20 PM

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did you update?

cedar raven Oct 14, 2017, 3:21 PM

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yeah, coz the baldur in greenpath spat? i got to baldur shell

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:22 PM

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sean might have wrote the wrong scene name

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:22 PM

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and hallownest seals are the same

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:23 PM

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relics are random

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you get a random relic when you pick one up

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well, none of the spells have any requirements

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so the game thinks you can get to all of them with no abilities @wispy root

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:24 PM

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Hmmm.... rip

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:24 PM

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I could make all the lv2 abilities require claw

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well I know dive needs dive too

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:26 PM

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I got stuck

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solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:26 PM

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what you got?

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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Shade soul and descending dark, both I think you can get with either mantis claw or double jump

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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nothing

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maybe papa grub will give me smth

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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ill just make it claw / dash / dream nail

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so you can always beat the game without going there

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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with the elegy you can maybe kill the the baldurs under howling cliffs

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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for now

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:27 PM

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for the shell spot

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:28 PM

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dash/superdash/mantis claw/vengeful spirit would help you there

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:28 PM

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temp randomizer hotfix

📎 randomizer.xml

cedar raven Oct 14, 2017, 3:28 PM

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its ok, i got the baldur shell now, u can kill baldur with 2 shade soul

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just gotta save warp after

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maybe someone can try get there with lv 1 fireball

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i'll try when i'm done

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:31 PM

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that goes into the randomizer folder?

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in the root

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:31 PM

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yes, replace the one you've got

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:32 PM

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okay, so I'll try and port the bonfire mod to the modding API while it's still early in development

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wish me luck

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:33 PM

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good luck hollowface

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:38 PM

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after this much time randomizer shouldnt break

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:38 PM

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you know the randomizer is super new right?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:38 PM

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it is?

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:39 PM

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and definitely still in development

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:39 PM

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i thought more people would try it

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:39 PM

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it's technically still being developed

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many people do

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it's just that not that many people play HK mods at all

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:39 PM

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its easier to get into than glass soul

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:39 PM

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it shouldnt break but this is an entirely new mechanic that got added hours ago hollowface

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:40 PM

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what new mechanic

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:40 PM

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spells

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:40 PM

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spells being randomized

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which work different to everything else

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:40 PM

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So.... google drive is up to date, except the xml

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:41 PM

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kinda makes sense

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:41 PM

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which you've put in the race channel

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:41 PM

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I have only dream nail

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that shouldnt unlock me many places

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:41 PM

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it won't unlock any

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are you playing on hard or easy?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:41 PM

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hard

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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and you haven't speedrun before?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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I really have nowhere to go

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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you're going to have a bad time

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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no speedrun can bypass this

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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Hard implements a bunch of speedrun strats

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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like what

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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like shade skips, fireball air stalls, explosion pogo

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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shade skips?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

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yeah probably just make sure everyone has that xml

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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shade skips requires you to die and then pogo off the ghost

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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@sturdy whale like this:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqatEshyGJg

YouTube

Sean Riley

:^)

▶ Play video

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which KDT posted a while ago

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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thats a fireball air stall

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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I would not be able to do that with my dpad hehe

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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yup

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:43 PM

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shadeskips are interesting

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but nope I cant make use of it

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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have you been to salubra?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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maybe I should just grind for the lantern and go to crystal canyon

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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what movement abilities do you have?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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none!

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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did you rescue sly?

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and checked the shops

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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yes

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:44 PM

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did you check salubra?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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no

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no movement abilities

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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you don't need any

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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you can pogo up there

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off your shade

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hard is for speedrunners

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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shade skip hollowface

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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are store bought charms different?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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yep

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:45 PM

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are they randomized?

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oh

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nice

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:46 PM

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if sly and salubra don't help you, then you'll have to shade skip

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:46 PM

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you have to shade to salubra

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:47 PM

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I mean, to actually progress into new areas

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:47 PM

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the race is in an hour right?

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:47 PM

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I've done a few nmg runs myself and wouldn't dare try the hard mode randomizer

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I fail explosion pogo more often than not

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:48 PM

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hmm, I did the hard one now a few times

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maybe I was lucky idk

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and I dont speedrun

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 3:48 PM

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the hard one ndoesn't guarantee a hard seed

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just doesn't restrict it

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:48 PM

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yea

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:51 PM

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alright I got an upspell

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:51 PM

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scream?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:51 PM

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yup

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this should be enough

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:52 PM

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thats not helping for progress

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:52 PM

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nope

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that's good for dealing damage

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and that's it

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:54 PM

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so vengeful wraith can get you to the other side but the scream cant?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:55 PM

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it has recoil

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 3:55 PM

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more like slight knockback

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:55 PM

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does howling wraith cancel falling animation like vengeful spirit does?

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never tried it

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:55 PM

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I'd assume so

hazy sentinel Oct 14, 2017, 3:56 PM

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does desolate dive cancel falling animation

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intenseface

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:57 PM

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yes

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although it instantly causes you to fall at a fixed speed until you hit the ground

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 3:58 PM

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there's also a momentary increase in height before the drop

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:58 PM

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does the shade have range limit?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 3:58 PM

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yes

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 3:59 PM

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damnit

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how do I get to salubra then

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 4:00 PM

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die next to the little hill next to her

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and the shade should spawn on top of it

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 4:02 PM

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best place for early geo grinding?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 4:02 PM

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theres the big mushrooms in fungal wastes

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those are 45

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 4:02 PM

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https://youtu.be/f8wxjJ_qg50?t=22

YouTube

strifera

More Hollow Knight Glitchless Skips

Movement ability skips within Hollow Knight. The first and last come with caveats. The first leads to an essence tree which will produce out of reach essence...

▶ Play video

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 4:03 PM

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but you probably can't get there yet

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 4:15 PM

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done

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salubra had the dash

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mothwing cloak

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she also has dreamgate

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very interesting

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yes I got thorns of agony

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my favorite charm~

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 4:22 PM

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does hard require any oob?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 4:22 PM

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oob?

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 4:22 PM

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out of bounds

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 4:23 PM

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no

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hard can always be done nmg

solemn rivet Oct 14, 2017, 4:23 PM

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that's good to know

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since I know basically no oob glitches

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 4:37 PM

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yea same

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Please dont go to fast guys, I'd appreciate it

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 4:48 PM

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got desolate drive

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 5:10 PM

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im fucked

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im at crystal peak without mantis claw

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the only way to leave now is through the passage to resting grounds

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and I dont have the lantern

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 6:00 PM

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IM OUT

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TOOK ME A WHILE BUT IM OUT OF THERE

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Went through the darkness?

sturdy whale Oct 14, 2017, 7:08 PM

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yes

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took me a long long long long time

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Ahh I see what you did there

📎 unknown.png

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:19 PM

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Does anyone happen to have a single image that contains all the icons for the charms + abilities + special items (basically a spritemap for inventory+charms).

marble scarab Oct 14, 2017, 7:21 PM

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probably not

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:21 PM

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I know i could build one from the images on the wiki, but if i can avoid putting 60 something images together 😉

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:28 PM

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yes

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there is one

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:15 PM

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Thoughts: https://iamwyza.github.io/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker/Index.html ? Basically a tracker for the randomizer for commentators to use.

Known things.

#1 the images are just pulled from game screenshots, as such, things like the charms still have some of the background on them which meh.
#2 because I used greyscale to indicate having the item or not, several items are difficult or impossible to decern.

Otherwise, it's fairly simple/straightforward to use. Click on an item, it lights up, click again, and greys out. Reset clears everything. "t" shows the borders around the items to show clickable area (mostly a debug feature).

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:17 PM

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it's really hard to tell when one is clicked vs not

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:19 PM

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📎 Sprites.7z

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:19 PM

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mmhmm, that'd be #2 on the list. HK is such a grey/muted game which makes alot of these not pop, a better way to indicate having it would be nice, but not sure a good one that wouldn't look bad (but I'm absolutely garbage at UI/prettyness on stuff, functional I can do, pretty I can't)

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:19 PM

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i mean, even to put a bright white light behind them to make it super obvious would be enough

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or a green lithgt

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light

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:19 PM

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thats every sprite you should need

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:19 PM

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or just something

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:20 PM

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@leaden hedge thanks!

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hmm, a green glow might work

cold bluff Oct 14, 2017, 9:20 PM

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so how would i implement this?

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:20 PM

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you just open the web page

cold bluff Oct 14, 2017, 9:20 PM

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each individual racer would have their own thing on stream?

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:20 PM

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and screen cap

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yeah risky

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each would have their own

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if they want

high moat Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Just use the same color as admins here, the highlight will light up at village then.

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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lol

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tru

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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well, for example for super metroid

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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sean was going to make an automatic one

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that'd auto light them up

cold bluff Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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oh, do they check it off?

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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the tracker is on the restream box

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so it's up to a commentator or tracker to keep it

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since the racers aren't going to have time

cold bluff Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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tracking 4 players at a time while commentating is a little much

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might be able to

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:21 PM

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in SM and LTTP, they do a dedicated person for tracking

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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no. it'd be players doing it

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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they can't auto do it

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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trackers and commentators are separate, because it's too much for 1 person

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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i'd want it on my stream anyways

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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we can just write a mod

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that auto does it

cold bluff Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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oh kk, so i'b basically just have a browsersource open and someone else would be checking it

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or an auto one like kdt said

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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auto would be better

high moat Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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Would be sick, you could play in chinese aswell then

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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auto would be sick

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tru Ush

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don't have to read

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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but that's significantly more complicated 😉

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:22 PM

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meh not really

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just have the webpage read from a text file

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:23 PM

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except that a webpage reading from a local text file requires you to override security settings

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:23 PM

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not a json file

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Chrome/IE/FF all block local file system access by default I think

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:24 PM

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also you'd use the obs built in thing

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so the bg is transparent

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without having to chroma key

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:25 PM

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ya. that's easy

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making this more visible and distinctive though would be nice

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:25 PM

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yeah, there it is, by default, browsers like chrome block local file system access unless you launch them with the equivalent to "--allow-file-access-from-file" flag

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:25 PM

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but we can figure this out

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tracker is sick

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:25 PM

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it's a security feature

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:25 PM

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hmm thats not enabled for json

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try it

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:29 PM

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there is a difference between doing file://c/somefile.json and trying to open it via javascript (which would be required in order to read it on demand). Reading it via the file:// method will work, but if you tried, for example, to do $.getJSON("somefile.json"), then you get this

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📎 unknown.png

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that said, this doesn't have to be in the browser. Could just as easily write it as a c# program

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did it in a browser cause it was quick, dirty, proof of concept

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and it makes it easy to make it available to the masses 😃

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though i suppose the number of folks who will use it number in the dozens

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or less

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:31 PM

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might grow after agdq

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or once randomizer takes off

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:31 PM

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true

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:31 PM

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all randomizers spread like wildfire

high moat Oct 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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Do they do randomizer races at agdq?

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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they are this one 😃

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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they are this year for LTTP

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but just having HK at agdq will help

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plus you know... i can bring it up

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it's not like i won't have a mic

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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obs browser source doesnt have that issue

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you can literally load any file you want

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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interesting

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could work then

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:33 PM

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in a normal web browser yes

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but in obs you can literally load whatever

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:33 PM

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if someone can get the json file generated, I can make it parse. but later, dinner now and wife is giving me the look

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:34 PM

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sean will have to do it

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I can't just dump the playerdata

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the randomizer makes all of them wrong

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:40 PM

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Most things are right in there

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Just spells are wrong

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:40 PM

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so if I dump the value for hasCharm_1 via reflection

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it'll actually be correct

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:41 PM

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Should be, yeah

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 9:42 PM

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would be cool to have dreamers on the tracker

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:42 PM

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doable I guess

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let me try this

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is there a hook for setBool sean if not can I get one hollowface

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:46 PM

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There is both GetBool and GetBoolInternal

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Calling GetBool also calls hooks to mods

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Internal does not

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:47 PM

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I mean a hook to be called when something gets set

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so I can save whenever playerdata gets updated

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I guess on level change works for now

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:48 PM

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There's a hook to SetBool

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:48 PM

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anychance there is a simple mapping from the names in _Sprites, to what would be in this json file?

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or would the names vary enough we'd need to maintain a mapping

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:49 PM

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the names in _sprites are the order they appear in the game

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wait are they

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:49 PM

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looking at a few, seems right

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:49 PM

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yeah they are

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you'll want a mapping

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those are massively wrong for in game values

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:50 PM

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haha

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sounds about right

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:50 PM

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📎 en_ui.txt

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heres the ui data

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<entry name="CHARM_NAME_1"> is the first charm in game logic

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:51 PM

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so basically, thinking:

{
    [
    {
        "name": "Charm1",
        "has": "true"
    },
    {
        "name": "Charm2",
        "has": "false"
    }
    ]
}

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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the name will be

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hasCharm_1

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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It's gotCharm_x in PlayerData

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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hasFireball_1, hasFireball_2?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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oh is it

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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fireballLevel

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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no fireball is an int

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:52 PM

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right

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but

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could keep the coding simpler if it's just that every thing in the tracker is represented as a "item", doesn't have to be though, could just use the int values for the spells

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 9:54 PM

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well you're going to have to do something weird with spells anyway

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and with dashes

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you can just do bool fireball1 = fireballLevel &1, fireball2 = fireballLevel&2

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if you want it to be a bool

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 9:55 PM

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sort of 😃 - javascript being non-strongly typed makes that a little weird. not a huge deal just so long as i know what the format of the json is

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also this en_ui file is weird, it's like it wants to be XML, but isn't

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 10:00 PM

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It's pretty easy to turn it into proper XML

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 10:00 PM

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yeah

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already done

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doesn't it make it less weird

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so will the json have the values from that UI file, or is it going to be more like what Sean posted with the gotCharm_x, got_Lovekey, got_something, got_arcaneegg?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 10:05 PM

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gotCharm_x

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but the the x is the same the x in the ui file

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so CHARM_NAME_5 is baldur shell

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so gotCharm_5 = baldur shell

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 10:06 PM

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ah, k, so use UI file to look at the values in the 7z sprite folder to get the right charm # for the right image

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cool, gotta run, but will tackle more of this later. Don't think it's going to be terribly difficult now that i have a good idea of what we'll have.

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 10:09 PM

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for now I'll probably just dump the entire save file

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incase people want to track other stuff in there at some point

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📎 playerData.json

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@buoyant wasp

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you can even do stuff like, see what people have equipped

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 10:14 PM

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hollowdab

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 10:15 PM

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gotCharm_x for charms
xxxLevel for spells
"maskBrokenLurien":true,"maskBrokenHegemol":true,"maskBrokenMonomon":true these are dreamers I think
most of it is self explanitory

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if your not sure which variable is which you can ask hollowface

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but im going to sleep so don't ask me

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oh heres the plugin

📎 PlayerDataDump.dll

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for now it just saves to playerData.json in your save folder

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 10:51 PM

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Fixed the greenpath baldurs and put in more accurate requirements for baldur shell

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XML entry for baldur shell is a bit of a monster now
https://pastebin.com/3ER4wsCG

Pastebin

[XML] Baldur Shell Charm g - Pastebin.com

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I need to implement a way to do proper boolean algebra in the XML so this doesn't happen

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 12:30 AM

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@leaden hedge - how often would it dump? Any way of determining if something changed? (IE can we add a flag to the dump that says, "inventory/skills/spells" changed, since it looks like there is alot of data here that is likely to change each time the file is persisted)

ebon dock Oct 15, 2017, 12:48 AM

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there is modding for hollow knight?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 12:50 AM

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several 😃

hazy sentinel Oct 15, 2017, 12:50 AM

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several modding

ebon dock Oct 15, 2017, 12:51 AM

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please elaborate

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information

hazy sentinel Oct 15, 2017, 12:51 AM

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pinned google drive has all mods

ebon dock Oct 15, 2017, 12:51 AM

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what is there to mod

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im on mobile

hazy sentinel Oct 15, 2017, 12:51 AM

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oh if you're getting into modding get UABE and dnspy

ebon dock Oct 15, 2017, 12:52 AM

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i just want to know what is there to mod

hazy sentinel Oct 15, 2017, 12:52 AM

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?

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textures, text, code

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 12:58 AM

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like... everything

ebon dock Oct 15, 2017, 12:59 AM

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hrm

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 12:59 AM

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it's modding. that's the point. you can do whatever you want. your imagination is the only limitation

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that and some coding stuffs

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probably

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 1:11 AM

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You probably won't make new areas or enemies, but everything else is fair game

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 1:16 AM

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There is a randomizer, there is a debug mod for practicing stuff, there are mods that completely change the way you get power (like the bonfire mod), or different ways of doing combat

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 2:52 AM

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any mod updates that Sean hasn't put into the drive folder himself?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 2:55 AM

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me and KDT are cooking something up for the randomizer, but it's not ready yet.

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 2:55 AM

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alright

heavy geyser Oct 15, 2017, 3:02 AM

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Nude mods when

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:04 AM

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do it yourself

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:11 AM

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and then never share them

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ever

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:29 AM

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Considering the following:
Shortening the Mods drive folder pin
Copying the two guide pins (replacing audio and extracting game assets) to a drive folder and pinning that (or adding it to the Mods drive folder pin)
@small nest, @buoyant obsidian, @leaden hedge: Please consider editing your pinned posts and adding "<" and ">" to the ends of your links so that the previews don't show up to save on space

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:30 AM

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Done

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:31 AM

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thank you

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:31 AM

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I wanna say keep the pins pinned, the drive folder isn't exactly more accessible

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:31 AM

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fair enough

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keep the list of mods in the drive folder pin?

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:36 AM

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Yeah

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I wish there was a way to rearrange the pins, it'd be like a welcome message if it was at the top

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:36 AM

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Yeah, lemme unpin and repin it

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I just wish there was an easier way to provide info and keep tabs besides a scroll history of posts

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:38 AM

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Oh repinning works like that? Nice

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 3:38 AM

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could maybe just edit the post in lobby?

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:39 AM

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how so?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 3:39 AM

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@cedar raven I added some platforms to get you out of City without wall jump, just gonna change a couple more things then I'll put this build up https://imgur.com/a/90N6P

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 3:39 AM

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I mean simo would have to do it

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:39 AM

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No, I mean, what would you recommend putting there and why there instead of as a pin in the relevant channel?

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:40 AM

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You can do that, Seanpr!?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 3:40 AM

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I mean I'm not exactly creating new platforms here

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I'm making copies and moving them where I want them

buoyant obsidian Oct 15, 2017, 3:40 AM

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So could you make copies of enemies too?

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 3:40 AM

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I thought it would be maybe more visible?

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was just an idea

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 3:41 AM

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Yeah

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That's already a feature of debug mod

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You can clone enemies

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:41 AM

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Visibility isn't the problem, it's ease of access, and looking tidy

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 3:42 AM

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can you clone zote? cirSmug

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 3:42 AM

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Lol

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 3:42 AM

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lobby still has the same problem of having to scroll to see everything

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 3:42 AM

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All zotes in cof

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 3:42 AM

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haha

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:50 AM

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Colors are subject to change. The sprites need to be normalized in size, their actual sizes are all slightly different which makes aligning them yucky. But, It reads from the json file provided by @leaden hedge and marks the charms you have based on that and marks the ones you have equipped too. Currently have 3 sets of sizes that can be tweaked, and location of where the charms go can be tweaked too. Next up, abilities and items, which should be fairly easy now that i have the rest working.

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this is overlayed via OBS Browser source btw

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 3:53 AM

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I can make the randomizer output a json file every time you get something

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:56 AM

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yeah, kdt, did something where he's dumping basically the contents of the save file

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it's up a few dozen messages earlier

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 3:56 AM

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Oh, I see

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:56 AM

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did a dll for it too, but i don't know how often it's being updated, not that it matters too much

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 4:07 AM

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thats neat

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:13 AM

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it's target is primarily Randomizer, but honestly there isn't a reason why you couldn't use it for normal stuff either i suppose

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 4:14 AM

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so, if I go for example to glowing womb but I'd get dashmaster, it would mark the dashmaster?

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in the randomizer

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:14 AM

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yup

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that's the goal

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the idea was to make it so that if you're casting, it's easy for viewers to see what you have

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since if you show up to a race like 20minutes in, you have no idea what the players might have at that point unless they menu and you can catch it

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 4:15 AM

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yea, its a good idea

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:16 AM

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(not original, totally stole this idea from Super Metroid Randomizer, which I think stole it from A Link To the Past Randomizer ;))

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though the implementation is original

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 4:17 AM

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I wonder if it would be possible to make it an twitch extension

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what file do you read?

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the json file?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:19 AM

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yeah, kdt is generating a json file based on the contents of the save, or something to that effect

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and i'm just putting a timer into the overlay change checks the file every X seconds and updates the overlay based on the data there

summer tapir Oct 15, 2017, 4:20 AM

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hmm

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did you coded it in javascript?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:20 AM

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yeah, i'll push it up here before i go to bed

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or at least, what i have so far. still more work to do before it's done

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:33 AM

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Hmm.... So is there a way to have two PCs talk to each other about this? Lol. Or have the overlay interact with chat commands like a lot of LTTP runners have?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:33 AM

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no need

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:33 AM

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I have a two PC setup

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:33 AM

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hmm

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so your 2nd PC is recording?

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:34 AM

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So I can't have my gaming PC have the program since I can't key it with obs onto the overlay

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Gaming and streaming pc

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Yeah

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:34 AM

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if they are networked, you could map the drive where the json file get's written to

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the browser doesn't need to care if the json file is over the network as long as it can reach it i think

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I'll have to test that

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otherwise....idk, I'd have to think about it. adding server communication is a great deal more complicated than simply reading status data from a file 😃

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:35 AM

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Yeah. That's why I was thinking bot commands could do the same thing that the json is

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Just change the state of a bit in the code

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And thus change the overlay

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:36 AM

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yup, but then you'd need a server even if it's a small local one in order to do cross client communication

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:36 AM

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The info is for chat anyways. I don't need it

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Why? My boy is on my stream pc

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Bot*

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:37 AM

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oh

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i see

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:37 AM

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If I have the info overlay on the same PC as the bot

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It could just affect the charm overlay

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:37 AM

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i suppose as long as there is a library already out there (there has to be i assume) that can interact with the bot, that's pretty doable.

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we'd just need a bot on the game PC that can post and then on the streaming PC it would need to login and listen for bot commands to update the overlay

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:39 AM

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I mean... I'd just have viewers donit

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:39 AM

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which I suspect wouldn't be super dificult

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:39 AM

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Do it

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:39 AM

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haha

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you could...

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:39 AM

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Increases chat interaction

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Whitelist people I trust

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I don't care if they mess with it. Like I said.... I don't need it

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It's for the viewers

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:41 AM

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yeah, it wouldn't be hard to add the ability to do that as long as a JS bot client already exists. if it does, should be straight forward to swap out the "read from json file" for "listen to bot events"

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:41 AM

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Yeah that's what I'm thinking

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Would it also retain the click to change functionality too?

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:42 AM

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right now, click to change doesn't exist (because this version is automatically doing it and i did new code because of the updates), but adding it in again would be trivial

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i rewrote most of the prototype once i found out i could get the data without interaction from the user

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😃

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so, yes

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:44 AM

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Sveet

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Doesn't hurt to have options

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:44 AM

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Put up a new randomizer build with some requirements updates and hard lock fixes

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Also this ugly button in the top left for logging the randomization without being in game

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Useful for finding a good seed to race on

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Lol

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:45 AM

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so when you press it, it dumps the spoiler log?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Yeah

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:46 AM

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oh, there's a question, is the randomizer seed in the save data?

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:46 AM

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Do we have versioning yet? Coordinating what version with others is a bit confusing RN

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:46 AM

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cause if it is, I want to put the seed # in my UI overlay too

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, good point, I should add a version number text

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All the randomizer save data is in .rnd files

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Which are just plain text

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:47 AM

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k

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:47 AM

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Could just put version right after the randomizer text on the title screen

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:47 AM

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^

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i thought the mod-framework was going to start putting the Version# in the lower left corner

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or was i imagining things

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:48 AM

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It's on the to do list

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:48 AM

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ah

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:48 AM

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There's a lot of things I should do

trim totem Oct 15, 2017, 4:49 AM

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does the randomizer mod randomize relics

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:49 AM

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Yes

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Relics can be any of the 4 relics

trim totem Oct 15, 2017, 4:50 AM

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can a movement item appear in a relic spot

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:50 AM

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Nah

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Movement items are restricted to places that aren't terrible to get

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Can't get them from relics, grubfather, or seer

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 4:54 AM

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Closer, all skills, spells, relics now in and working. items are displaying, but not working yet.

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frail copper Oct 15, 2017, 4:54 AM

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how to install blackmoth?

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do i just move the .modbundle file into the hollow knight folder?

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and then start a new game on 'classic mode?'

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:55 AM

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For the modbundle method you need the mod installer

frail copper Oct 15, 2017, 4:56 AM

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oh, i have that

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k

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 4:59 AM

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does this work with upgraded versions of spells/movements?

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movements??

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items

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bah

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 4:59 AM

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I can guarantee you the item thing doesn't work with spells in randomizer, at least

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With randomizer the spell variables in playerdata do nothing

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It's saved in the randomizer save file

frail copper Oct 15, 2017, 5:01 AM

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hang on, so, started blackmoth, and chose classic mode

arent you supposed to get dash ability from the start?

cuz im not

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:02 AM

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Yeah, you're meant to have it from the beginning

frail copper Oct 15, 2017, 5:02 AM

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hmm

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im in king's pass

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lemme check controls

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yeah, their normal

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weird

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hm

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it said 'blackmoth knight' in the title and all

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:04 AM

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Weird

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You can try the modding api version of the mod

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Which I am biased towards anyway

young walrus Oct 15, 2017, 5:05 AM

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no way

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can't imagine why

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hollowface

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:06 AM

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I'll help you with the reasoning, then

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Because it's better in every way to shitty non-compatible mods

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hollowface

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:07 AM

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📎 Capture.PNG

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:08 AM

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Yes that is what I said

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:09 AM

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have any other mods updated?

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I see Blackmoth has been updated to the api

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:11 AM

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Yeah, I did that a few days ago

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:11 AM

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any reason not to just replace the regular version with it?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:11 AM

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Not really my call

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Ask Gradow when he's on

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:12 AM

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fair

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Though I think I'll put them in the same zip, keep the folder clean

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:12 AM

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Alright

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:23 AM

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@rain cedar how about folders that hold the individual game version mod zips? did it with Glass Soul as an example

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:25 AM

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Sure, that looks a lot better than 2-3 files per mod

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 5:27 AM

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@rain cedar - so the save data for spells won't work the way that @leaden hedge did it then? hmm, how to test that, guess I'll have to run a rando until i can find a randomized spell and see what he did

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also, yay, all the things, i think:

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rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:28 AM

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You can see exactly where everything is if you look in ModLog.txt in your save folder

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So you don't have to hunt a spell down

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 5:29 AM

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hmm, were you talking about a different mod when you said

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| I can guarantee you the item thing doesn't work with spells in randomizer, at least

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just wanted to make sure i was getting the right data 😃

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:37 AM

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I was talking about your thing

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I don't use the spell variables in PlayerData because it messes with the pickups spawning

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 5:38 AM

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ah

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wonder if KDT thought of that already

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sigh - OBS doesn't allow for local JSON anymore with Browser Source, it adopted webkit with CORS too

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:47 AM

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I can get spells to work via randomizer

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:48 AM

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Nah, don't worry about it

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:48 AM

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I just dumped playerData, but I guess I could check the same variable sean used to calculate it

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:48 AM

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I will try to override the save/load functions to have the right values

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That might mess with your thing, though

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Or run after it

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No way to choose which code runs first

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:49 AM

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if I do GetBool(_fireball)

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or whatever you used, that'd work right?

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assuming randomizer is installed

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:50 AM

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Yeah, do whichever is greater between PlayerData.fireballLevel and GetInt("_fireballLevel")

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I'm pretty sure GetInt returns 0 if it's not found

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Maybe not, though

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Probably better to double check that

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:51 AM

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also for now @buoyant wasp it'll just change on scene change, until I can write a hook that gets called whenever something gets picked up

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 5:52 AM

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works for me

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:52 AM

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You can hook SetBool/SetInt and check for every possibility

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Sounds tedious, though

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:52 AM

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yee, maybe if you put nothing in

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it should hook everything

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:53 AM

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I don't get what you're suggesting

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 5:54 AM

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oh you're saying SetPlayerBoolHook gets called whenever you pick something

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not that you've got to hook every specific variable

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:54 AM

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There we go, drive folder all updated, individual zips in folders instead of individual folders in zips

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:55 AM

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Yeah, it gets called whenever a bool is set

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So you can just check if it's a bool that corresponds to an item

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:56 AM

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Not entirely sure on how/if to use tags to let people know which mods use the api, have modbundle option, drm free option, etc.

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:58 AM

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Just having something like [DRM-Free] in the zip title makes sense to me

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:58 AM

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yeah, sorry, meant for the folders

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zips already have the tags

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:58 AM

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I think that's fine, then

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Folder names are already too long to show for me

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Wouldn't help to add more

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:59 AM

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already too long? with just author and mod name?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 5:59 AM

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dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 5:59 AM

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oh, i use list view for the mod folder

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:00 AM

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Oh yeah I see

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That's much better

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 6:00 AM

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should i put the mod name before the author name?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:00 AM

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I think it's fine as is

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I can easily see everything in list view

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 6:00 AM

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alright then

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:00 AM

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Is there a way to set the default view for the folder?

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Or is it just a user preference exclusively?

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 6:01 AM

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user pref as far as i know

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:01 AM

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Alright

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 6:01 AM

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apparantly there is a way, lemme test

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rip, not actually available

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:04 AM

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Oh well

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:18 AM

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it returns -9999

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seems close enough

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 6:26 AM

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@leaden hedge - So, while older versions of OBS might have allowed local file access, new versions use strict CORS because they use webkit. So then, we have to approach this some other way. in order to make the data available. There is an option to disable that security, but it applies to all open chromium browsers, which, no.

One approach would be to look into doing a very light version of this: https://gist.github.com/flq/369432#file-httpfileserver-cs or this https://codehosting.net/blog/BlogEngine/post/Simple-C-Web-Server - though instead of having it look for stuff to serve up, the only thing it ever would serve up would be the playerData.json contents as a JSONP on localhost:someport.

Gist

Smallest file web server

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:27 AM

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I guess doing via a tiny webserver might work

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 6:35 AM

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the big thing is just making sure it doesn't impact the game's performance (if indeed it works at all). I'm trying to think of other approaches, but...

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:35 AM

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@rain cedar when does NewGameHook get called before or after playerdata gets set?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 6:37 AM

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After

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It's in LoadFirstScene

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:38 AM

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cool just making sure I can dump the json in there, and it'll actually be empty

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@buoyant wasp have you tried starting obs with the --disable-web-security arguement

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 6:41 AM

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yup, it stops erroring but then won't load the data. From what I read, you have to exit out of all instances of chrome in order for it to take effect fully

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:41 AM

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pretty annoying they'd just remove the best functionality of the browser source

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 6:42 AM

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yes/no. They didn't remove it, they simply updated chromium, and chromium has this baked in.

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and IE/Firefox both changed their engines to behave the same way, so outside of custom compiling a browser engine, they're kind of stuck

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wish they would have added an option that says "trust this page" or "grant this page access to this directory"

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 6:44 AM

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or you know, hey this webpage is local and makes no external requests

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maybe its safe to let it read files

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 6:44 AM

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that'd be too easy

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we certainly wouldn't want easy

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this might also be an option: https://github.com/sta/websocket-sharp - websockets would afford us one bonus in that instead of having to write the entire json every time something changes, you could just write to the socket on change for the thing that changes. apparently works with unity, so might work here too.

GitHub

sta/websocket-sharp

websocket-sharp - A C# implementation of the WebSocket protocol client and server

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in any case, about time for bed here, so, good luck 😃

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:23 AM

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ez

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ok, but this doesn't work for randomizer

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hmm

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:30 AM

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How are you doing the alert?

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:30 AM

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its a websocket

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        public void updateJson(string var, bool value)
        {
            if (var.StartsWith("gotCharm_") || var.StartsWith("equippedCharm_") || var.StartsWith("has") || var.StartsWith("maskBroken") || var == "overcharmed")
            {
                ss.Broadcast("{\""+var+"\":\""+value.ToString()+"\"}");
                updateJson();
            }
        }

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:31 AM

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And I guess that's hooked to SetBool?

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:31 AM

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yeah theres 3 overloads for that function

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SetBool, SetInt and NewSave

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:31 AM

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I see

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Well there's no way to tell what is actually being set from the SetBool function

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Other than by running the randomizer logic yourself, I guess

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I think it would work with a hook to SetBoolInternal

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:32 AM

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well if you dumped randomizer values to a json, you could just look at that

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:32 AM

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Which doesn't currently exist

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:33 AM

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to figure out what gotCharm_6 actually was

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:33 AM

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Yeah, I could do that

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:33 AM

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that way I don't have to make this work for every mod

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every mod can just make a different webpage

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also fireball and scream work as expected

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but quake returns -9999

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did you call it _diveLevel or something?

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:35 AM

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No, I'm looking for _quakeLevel

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{
    if (name.StartsWith("_"))
    {
        name = name.Substring(1);
    }
    return pd.GetIntInternal(name);
}

if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(name))
{
    return 0;
}

if (name == "_fireballLevel")
{
    return _fireball1 + _fireball2;
}
else if (name == "_quakeLevel")
{
    return _quake1 + _quake2;
}
else if (name == "_screamLevel")
{
    return _scream1 + _scream2;
}```

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There's the relevant bit of my GetInt function

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:36 AM

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oh

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mb lol

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            int randomFireballLevel = ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerInt("_fireballLevel");
            int randomQuakeLevel = ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerInt("_quakeLevelLevel");
            int randomScreamLevel = ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerInt("_screamLevel");

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:37 AM

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Nice

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:40 AM

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@dapper folio give me edit priveleges hollowface

dapper folio Oct 15, 2017, 8:40 AM

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send me a message with the email you want to have privileges

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:50 AM

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@rain cedar is the a hook for when the application quits I know monobehaviours can do OnApplicationQuit() but I don't want to create a gameobject and attach it somewhere just for that

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:50 AM

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Nah

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What do you need that for?

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:52 AM

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just to tell the websocket its game is closing

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it probably shouldn't display anything unless its in game

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 8:53 AM

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You can probably check if the process is running

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Sounds tedious, though

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Not sure where to even hook for application quit

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 8:57 AM

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https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.OnApplicationQuit.html hollowface

rain cedar Oct 15, 2017, 9:03 AM

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📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

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I added in a hook to GameManager.OnApplicationQuit @leaden hedge

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 10:01 AM

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alright I think everything I need to do is done

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unless wyza can't get default -> randomizer working on the javascript side

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@buoyant wasp the json responses look like

{
    "var" : "name",
    "value":"true|false|int"
}

theres a few keywords, GameExiting, NewSave and SaveLoaded, everything else is a game variable

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and the mod is in the google drive

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oh and if you send "json" to the server, it'll respond with playerData in a json

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 2:58 PM

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@leaden hedge - is there any debug logging for this? When i drop in the dll, load the game, and load the test html, i get "connectoin refused" for localhost:11420

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 2:58 PM

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you can check the modlog

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oh did you refresh the page

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for somereason it only ever accepts the first request

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:01 PM

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hmm, that'll be problematic. cause OBS sometimes refreshes browser source (for example if you change the scene or show/hide the source). it'll also make development and debugging really, really hard if every time you need to refresh the html you have to close/start the game.

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but in this case, the modlog helped. Looks like i have a old version of the mod framework and/or randomizer

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missing the QuitHandler

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 3:03 PM

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ah the link just above where sean at'd me has it

buoyant wasp Oct 15, 2017, 3:04 PM

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yeah, got it

leaden hedge Oct 15, 2017, 3:05 PM

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I have no idea why it only accepts the first request

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its not like socket is a 1on1 thing