#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 18

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:05 PM

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I'll focus on implementing int for now

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:11 PM

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@solemn rivet something happened

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marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 9:15 PM

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oh

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:15 PM

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0 nail damage though so I'm fucked

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i'll see if i can get a rancid egg

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:19 PM

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Respec

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See if it helps

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:19 PM

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i don't have any eggs

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:19 PM

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Hahaha

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Did str overflow?

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:19 PM

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stuck with no nail damage but i have 209 hp so i'm like invincible or something

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no, i was at around 5-6 strength and 1 in everything else

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then i accidentally did a room dupe

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then i save/quit

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and now i have like 2400 levels

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:20 PM

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That should never happen tho

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:20 PM

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what should never happen

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:20 PM

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Nowhere in the code does a stat get diminished

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Ever

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:21 PM

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idk it happened

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:21 PM

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It only either gets set to a value (always non negative) or incremented

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Maybe the dupe screwed with memory

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:21 PM

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guess it's now a pacifist run for a rancid egg

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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And overwrote stats

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But lol thanks for that

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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do spells damage bluggsacs?

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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Probably

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Any natural eggs left?

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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huh i can still pogo mushrooms with 0 damage, didn't think that was the case

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i haven't gotten any eggs

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i was in greenpath

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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Or buy them

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:22 PM

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just beat hornet 1

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:23 PM

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I see

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At least you won't die

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:23 PM

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what's the earliest egg 🤔

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Dunno

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Tuk knows

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:23 PM

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it would be the 60 geo one from sly

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but i didn't fight gruz mother

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and i can't beat her with 3 fireballs

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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Does 0 damage nail not refil soul?

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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no

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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Yikes

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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but if i can get literally 1 rancid egg

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i will become god

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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Not rly

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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what

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:24 PM

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It just gives you back all spent geo

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Not actually the levels

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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what's the difference

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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Well

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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also will this overflow the geo counter 🤔

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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The levels you have were not gained from spending geo

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So you won't get geo for them

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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oh so it keeps track of spent geo?

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:25 PM

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Yup

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That's why it won't work on previous patches

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If you respec then you'll lose your levels and geo

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:26 PM

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cryla

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guess I'll grind 5.9 million geo and get 5 nail damage then

solemn rivet Oct 11, 2017, 9:26 PM

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But if you respec now you'll be where you were before the glitch

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 9:27 PM

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i guess I'll try to float glitch to the egg in blue lake

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bc mantis village absolutely failed

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oh wait

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fuck

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i can't even use stag stations because the nail doesn't hit the bell

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holy shit

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i am become god

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thorns of agony

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oh wait it's gonna do 0 damage too

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i have beaten the system

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or have i 🤔

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hold on what

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apparently there are 2 enemies in CoT that die even with 0 nail damage

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hollowdab

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also city of tears without wall jump is actual cancer

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@solemn rivet so, it did give me "all" of my geo back

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it capped out but it still gave me way too much

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meme

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now that i've basically won the game, how much is enemy hp boosted

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killed gruz mother in 2 seconds

heavy geyser Oct 11, 2017, 10:08 PM

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wow git gud

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beat her in 0 seconds

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or less than a second

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:09 PM

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but was that nail only

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:27 PM

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killed massive moss charger before it dug into the ground

marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 10:32 PM

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kill a crawlid

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:37 PM

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literally 2 hit elder hu

marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 10:37 PM

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how much damage do you have

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:37 PM

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36

marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 10:37 PM

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how tf

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:38 PM

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idk it's just what happened

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:38 PM

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Still not as silly as straight up setting your nail damage to some high value

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Using that save editor from a while back I set my starting nail damage to be 50

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Just one shot everything

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:38 PM

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hey man, i earned this game break

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hollowface

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:39 PM

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Actually, I think I reduced it down to 50 after finding out 100 was too absurd

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I was killing bosses too quickly for my tastes

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:40 PM

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i also have 2.61x base swing speed and 27 blue hearts

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so there's that

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:40 PM

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Yeah, I want to start a new playthrough with that bonfire mod

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See how things go

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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keep in mind this is not feasible in normal gameplay

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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Probably dump most of my levels into dex

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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str is better

civic hatch Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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no u

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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Well dex is both slash speed and crit damage

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Strength would be the other stat to dump stuff into

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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i mean then you have to actually invest in luck

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

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Well I don't really care for HP

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And for Wisdom either

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So I'd really only level up Strength, Dex, and Luck

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

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idk i'd rather focus STR and level DEX after i at least get past pure nail damage levels

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:43 PM

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How many levels is that anyways?

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:43 PM

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8 or 9? i'm not sure

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i mean w/ all nail upgrades, not from base

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:44 PM

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Wait, so all nail upgrades in the mod doesn't give you pure nail damage?

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:44 PM

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no

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they give 2 each

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but they're also affected by the multiplier

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so around 2x damage you're already past pure nail

deep pilot Oct 11, 2017, 10:44 PM

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Well, I guess I'm going to have to try it to see for myself

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:44 PM

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what

marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 10:45 PM

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what

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wrong channel

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:45 PM

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nice mod hollowomg

marble scarab Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 PM

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^

dapper folio Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 PM

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@serene tundra I think you might've posted in the wrong channel. This is #archived-modding-development, not #art-discussion

serene tundra Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 PM

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wait

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i apologize

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yes

dapper folio Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 PM

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no problem

serene tundra Oct 11, 2017, 10:46 PM

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i just remembered i stayed in this channel cause of spritesheets noot

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 10:52 PM

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3 shot a mantis lord

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i think the room dupe broke enemy hp or something

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also i'm totally going to fight radiance

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eventually

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going to fight failed champion before soul master

hazy sentinel Oct 11, 2017, 11:36 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgquMeq_FqU

YouTube

Verulean Mod

Hollow Knight Shenanigans: Bonfire Mod #1

Due to a room duplication glitch, I now have far too many levels in Gradow's Bonfire Mod (found here: https://github.com/Ayugradow/bonfire-mod). What ensues ...

▶ Play video

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, first time I locked him was with lightbringer using the glass soul charm

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:26 AM

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would Kein mind if I basically used his HP bars mod as a base for the "damage dealt" feature of the bonfire mod?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:27 AM

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how does it work, via imgui?

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:27 AM

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basically, yeah

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lots and lots of smart thinking

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I tried it all day today and couldn't get it anywhere near working

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:29 AM

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hmm let me try with text mesh

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:30 AM

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I'm not gonna steal his mod, by any means

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I'm just gonna reverse engineer it and fit what comes of it to my needs

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:30 AM

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IMGUI is pretty slow and ugly

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:30 AM

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That's the essence of modding

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:31 AM

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oh 753 fix your lightbringer

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check #any-percent-nmg

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:31 AM

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What'd I do?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:31 AM

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uses frames to give mana regen

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instead of Time.deltaTime

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so more fps = more mana regen

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Ah

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:31 AM

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yeah

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I tried to cheat using CT and was disappointed

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:32 AM

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hmm what would I even do to fix it

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:33 AM

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have a variable called manaRegenTime

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manaRegenTime += Time.deltaTime;

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if( manaRegenTime >= 2 ){
manaRegenTime -= 2
regenMana()
}

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:34 AM

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So how does Time.deltaTime work?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:34 AM

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its the time since last frame

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so it'll return 0.01666666666666666666666666666667 at 60fps

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Ah I see

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:35 AM

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but if you lagged for a frame to say 30fps it'd return double that

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https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Time-deltaTime.html

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:36 AM

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Thanks

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:36 AM

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Gradow, your code to get enemy hp will be the same as kein's whether you take it from his mod or not

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It's just getting a value from a game object

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Might as well look at how he does it

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:37 AM

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I think he means more rendering

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he already has hp, from the code I gave him to change health and geo drops

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:37 AM

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yup

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Oh ok

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:37 AM

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he wants to add damage numbers

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Just use canvas to be different

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Easy

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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you can attach a canvas as a child of each enemy

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and it'll follow them

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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oh

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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then just create a text object on the canvas and move it about

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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sounds interesting

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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canvas is similar to IMGUI

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but it exists in the game as an object

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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I'll research into that

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:38 AM

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Canvas is overly complicated and awful

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It was never meant to be used in script

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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oh

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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Don't actually use it

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Save yourself

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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you can use text mesh

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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Too late for me

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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sadgrub

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:39 AM

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its not that complicated

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just add all the functions you made for debug

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into the api

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:40 AM

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Yeah, I am planning to release the canvas classes I made as a library dll

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But there's bugs to fix first

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:40 AM

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btw I was meaning to ask you sean, how did you manage to put those nice borders on the debug mod?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:40 AM

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via canvas

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:40 AM

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oh

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:40 AM

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It's just images

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:41 AM

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although sliced sprites don't seem to work

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:41 AM

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Look in the DebugMod folder

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:41 AM

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I was trying to get them to work for hitboxes

solemn rivet Oct 12, 2017, 2:41 AM

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I though it was some other way

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anyway, thanks for all the info

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 2:42 AM

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Hey everyone, sorry to intercept here out of nowhere. I was looking for a randomizer but couldnt find one by googling. Is there one out there?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:42 AM

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yes

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check pins for a google drive

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itll be in there

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you also need the modding api, also in the google drive

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 2:43 AM

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I'll look into it! Thanks cirLove

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:43 AM

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I should port the modding api to old versions at some point

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1028 at the least

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:43 AM

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I wish kcghost would port FSM mod to 1.1.1.8

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:44 AM

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It's a mod to playmaker.dll

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Probably works on any version

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:45 AM

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oh it does

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:46 AM

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The only thing with the modding api on old versions is dream gate

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Easy to add a version string to the api

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But then I have to add checks in debug and randomizer

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:47 AM

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you could just have a support version on the mods themselves

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oh btw for debug, a cool toggle to have under the boss section
on boss kill,
respawn boss
set health to full
set soul to full
activate dreamgate

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Not sure how to auto dream gate but I'll look into it

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:53 AM

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you get a reference to the dream nail

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and then just set state

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Already have that reference

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:53 AM

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I can go find the state in a sec

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:54 AM

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Alright

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:55 AM

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        public void autoWarp()
        {
                this.pmfsm.SetState("Warp End");
                this.pmfsm.FsmVariables.FindFsmFloat("Gate X").Value = this.gm.playerData.dreamGateX;
                this.pmfsm.FsmVariables.FindFsmFloat("Gate Y").Value = this.gm.playerData.dreamGateY;
                this.pmfsm.FsmVariables.FindFsmString("dreamGateScene").Value = this.gm.playerData.dreamGateScene;
        }

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this is how I did it in my early vesion of bossrush

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:56 AM

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Alright

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I'd have to manually set dream gate coords for each boss

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Not too bad, though

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:56 AM

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            this.bossRushGates[0] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Crossroads_10", 13.81486f, 27.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[1] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Crossroads_04", 95.01903f, 15.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[2] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Fungus1_04", 26.61754f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[3] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Fungus2_15", 30.3f, 7.405624f);
            this.bossRushGates[4] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Mines_18", 30.07801f, 11.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[5] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Ruins2_03", 44.2238f, 70.40561f);
            this.bossRushGates[6] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Waterways_05", 83.09189f, 7.405624f);
            this.bossRushGates[7] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Fungus3_archive_02", 53.54183f, 110.4056f);
            this.bossRushGates[8] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Ruins2_11", 47.50203f, 95.40561f);
            this.bossRushGates[9] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Fungus3_23", 33.74541f, 29.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[10] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Deepnest_East_Hornet", 24.43399f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[11] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Abyss_19", 24.92674f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[12] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Dream_01_False_Knight", 44.98343f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[13] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Dream_02_Mage_Lord", 44.98343f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[14] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Dream_03_Infected_Knight", 44.98343f, 28.40562f);
            this.bossRushGates[15] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Dream_03_Infected_Knight", 35.41851f, 6.405623f);
            this.bossRushGates[16] = new HK_MOD_TOOLS.bossRushGate("Dream_Final_Boss", 44.98343f, 28.40562f);

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heres most of them

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:57 AM

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Oh, thanks

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Why do you have lost kin twice?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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that actually points to hollow knight

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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dnSpy killed Time Fracture :(

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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but I had him disabled

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 2:58 AM

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Benefits of modding api, you don't need dnspy

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Although for now I don't think lightbringer makes sense to be on there

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We don't have texture overriding as a feature

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Not sure how to do that

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 2:59 AM

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Yeah that's why I've been hesitant about it

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:01 AM

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It looks easy to override language files, at least

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They just call Resources.Load in the Language class

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 3:02 AM

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Framerate mana bug fixed!

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I even saved Time Fracture from dnSpy

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 AM

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hey sean, is it possible to turn off the randomizer again?

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 AM

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You can't turn it off on a save it's enabled on, if that's what you mean

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 AM

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oh, so I have the choice to activate it or not when making a save?

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 AM

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Yes

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 AM

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I see, thanks zurairNice

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 3:14 AM

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http://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-lightbringer/downloads/hollow-knight-lightbringer-download

Mod DB

Hollow Knight: Lightbringer [1.1.1.8] file

Hollow Knight: Lightbringer lets you experience Hollow Knight like never before, replacing your melee attacks with a ranged lance of light.

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Should be all updated

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:14 AM

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Cool

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 3:14 AM

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Thanks for the bug report KDT

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 3:14 AM

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sean found it

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:15 AM

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Is the up to date one in the drive folder yet?

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 3:16 AM

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Nope I'll get it

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What's the best way to change it on Drive? It'd be kinda annoying to download the huge .zip, put it in, then reupload.

summer tapir Oct 12, 2017, 3:19 AM

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I dont think there is a way to change the content of a zip-file on the drive

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 3:20 AM

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Yeah I just remove the zip on there and upload again when I update

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 3:20 AM

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maybe you should split it into 2 zips

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assets / code

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 5:43 AM

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I like how the inventory has to go through 20 states before it actually loads the pane you want

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no wonder it lags like shit

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 5:44 AM

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This looks like a spiderweb

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 5:47 AM

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some of them are better

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rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 5:47 AM

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Are you making these images yourself or did you make something to make images from the json automatically?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 5:48 AM

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I'm making a thing to draw from json in a webpage

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I'll add things like events / variables

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I want to add another pane to inventory but its such a clusterfuck of so many fsms

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 5:49 AM

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Oh that would be sick

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Let me know if you figure that out

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We could add another charms pane or something

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For modded charms

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 5:50 AM

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that was the first thing I was going to try and do

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because that should be mostly copying the builtin charm page

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and adding it the inventory controller

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I've just gotta figure out how it generates the event, at Check Current Pane and Loop Through, it some how generates INV / MAP / JOURNAL / CHARMS, and that sends it through getting the page to the right / left and the pane to load

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 7:15 AM

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So with all mp boosting charms on in the new lightbringer you can cast a spell once every ~2.86 seconds using eye of the storm

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At base mp regen it's once every 20 seconds

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2 second tickrate feels way too harsh

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It's actually not even possible to put all the charms on at once so the 2.86 is unachievable

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@buoyant obsidian

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 8:34 AM

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So I've been told that essence drops are 1/200

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But I have no idea where that number comes from

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Anyone know where to see the drop chance?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 8:46 AM

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in health_manager_enemy I believe there is a essence chance state

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 8:47 AM

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Alright

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 8:51 AM

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im having trouble getting the debug mod to work, ive tried copying and pasteing the debug mod files and the modding dll into the hollow knight files a few times but its not working

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its probably not hard to get this to work but im bad

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 8:52 AM

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you're overwriting the vanilla csharp with the modding dll

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\DebugMod.dll

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thats where the debug mod dll goes

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 8:53 AM

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thats where i was putting the debug mod dll 🤔

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 8:53 AM

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Is there a file called ModLog.txt in your save directory?

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 8:55 AM

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no

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 8:55 AM

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Then I don't think you put the modding dll in the right spot

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 8:55 AM

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have you replaced the vanilla assembly-csharp with the modding dll

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 8:55 AM

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That file should always exist after running the game

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 8:57 AM

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no i haven't done anything with the vanilla assembly-csharp, should i delete that and put the modding dll in its place or something?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 8:57 AM

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yes

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its actually probably pooled / unpooled / pooled W / unpooled W that does it

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hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:07 AM

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am i supposed to delete assembly-CSharp and assembly-CSharp-firstpass or just assembly-CSharp

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:07 AM

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just assembly-csharp

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make a backup

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:07 AM

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i copy and pasted the hollow knight files into another folder and im trying to use that for the debug mod

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where am i supposed to be putting the "DebugMod" folder? maybe thats what im doing wrong

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:15 AM

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The folder structure for both zips is set up so you can just copy paste them into the main hollow knight folder

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And everything will be in the right spot

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:33 AM

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so if i just copy and paste "hollow_knight_Data" and "DebugMod" from the debug mod folder into the hollow knight folder and delete assembly-CSharp it SHOULD work right

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:33 AM

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it'll overwrite it anyway

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:34 AM

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You need the assembly-csharp from the modding api download

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:34 AM

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oh...

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i should have asked if i needed that or not

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im dumb

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:35 AM

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I mean it's literally the only thing in the download

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Of course you need it lmao

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So @leaden hedge I've got the health_manager_enemy json and I'm looking at the states you mentioned but I can't make much sense of it

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There's apparently an "Essence Chance" int but I'm not seeing that when I print out all the ints in game

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:41 AM

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its probably unset until health_manager_enemy goes into that state

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:41 AM

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Alright

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I'll try forcing the fsm to essence chance state first

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Still nothing

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I just want to know if different enemies have different drop chance

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For low% nsoob routing

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Does SetState take effect immediately?

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Maybe I need to wait a frame before printing

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:46 AM

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yeah it should work instantly

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:46 AM

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Alright

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:46 AM

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the problem is with playmakerfsm

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is they have these FSMString that work and make sense

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but then they just gave up

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and everything else is just byteData

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:47 AM

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So it's probably stored as bytes is what you're saying?

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There's a ton of variables, just not essence chance

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That seems unlikely to me

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:48 AM

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hmm nah, they aren't used as bytes

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it just stores everything as a byte then converts it to what it needs

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look at
byteData
paramDataType
paramName
paramDataPos
paramByteDataSize

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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tfw i still cant get it to work, does it not work if you try to use a mod on backup files of the game

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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have you got appid.txt

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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Oh wait

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I get what's happening

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Are you using Steam?

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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yeah

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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Alright

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Steam is dumb

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

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it launches the default version unless you have a text file

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:50 AM

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Yeah

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:50 AM

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to say what app it is

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:50 AM

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i was thinking that might be what was happening

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:50 AM

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So it's running the wrong files even if you click the other exe

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:50 AM

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alright ill try it on my main files, if it doesn't work after that then i will be insanely confused

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:52 AM

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steam_appid.txt
367520
if you put that in the same folder as your exe

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it should work

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:53 AM

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So where is the byteData stored?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:53 AM

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its on each state

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:53 AM

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Oh ok I was looking at the full fsm var

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:53 AM

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its how everything other than strings is identified and stored

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pretty sure it gets converted to FSMInt / FSMBool etc

hexed basalt Oct 12, 2017, 9:54 AM

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ITS WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only took like an hour lmao

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thanks for the help guys

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:55 AM

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I'm not seeing a byteData property on the states either

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:56 AM

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but some stuff isn't stored at all by vars
check "Pooled" and you'll see paramName, first 2 are min and max, then paramDataType are 16 for those 2, so they are 5bytes
and the ParamDataPos are 0 and 5 and paramByteDataSize are 5 / 5
so if you then check Pooled.byteData, you'll see min = 1,0,0,0,0 and max = 60,0,0,0,0

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so the min and the max for the randomInt is 1 and 60

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and that isn't even stored anywhere in the fsm

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:57 AM

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Alright, so it's probably 1/60 for the specific enemy you're looking at, then?

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 9:59 AM

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well pooled is 1/60, unpooled is 1/299, pooled W is 1/40 unpooled W is 1/200

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1/200 is what people say it is

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I assume depending on the logic it goes to those different states

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 9:59 AM

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Yeah

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 10:00 AM

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this is the next thing I'm going to tackle, is this byteData

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because its by far the most unwieldly stupid shit i've ever seen

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 10:01 AM

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Yeah, I hate everything to do with playmaker

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 10:27 AM

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Put up a new debug mod build with some minor bug fixes:
Enemy panel no longer gains duplicate entries
HP bars/collision no longer stay active after disabling the enemy panel

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 11:46 AM

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Alright, I'm having a problem with moving the modding namespace to a second dll

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I'm pretty sure it's because mods no longer have access to classes within assembly-csharp.dll when not loaded from there

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But I don't know how to fix that

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 11:47 AM

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they should

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although I dunno if you can do cylical stuff

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like A depends on B and B depends on A

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 11:48 AM

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I don't think there's anything like that

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 11:49 AM

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so edit class

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at the bottom theres a folder

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click that, and add assembly-csharp as a reference

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 11:49 AM

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I'm not using dnspy here

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And I do have that as a reference in the mod dll in visual studio

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 11:50 AM

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you should be able to use all its classes then

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 11:50 AM

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Well, in any case, I'm getting this when the mod loader tries to load mods:
System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: The classes in the module cannot be loaded

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And the mods load fine if I'm not using this, so I know that's not the problem

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I don't really have any ideas, here

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Wait a minute I know what the problem is

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Yeah, I was just being dumb

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It loaded the mod fine now but I for some reason don't have input on the main menu

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So something else is breaking, I guess

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 11:55 AM

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probably

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 2:25 PM

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ok great lol
datatype = 17
data = 0, 1, 77, 97,112,32,83,104, 111,114,116,99,117,116, <- this is an ascii string Map Shortcut
datatype = 17
data = 0, 0 <- this is the value 0

stray mirage Oct 12, 2017, 3:03 PM

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https://ibb.co/gyt365

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This happened two weeks ago to someone who just reinstalled the game

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There is hope yet

leaden hedge Oct 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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hope for what

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 3:05 PM

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our children

hazy sentinel Oct 12, 2017, 3:06 PM

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hope for memes

stray mirage Oct 12, 2017, 3:06 PM

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in a way, yes

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:09 PM

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Sean, did you update the google drive version of the randomizer?

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the one with the most recent change by adding compass?

wispy root Oct 12, 2017, 4:24 PM

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I don't think he did

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:25 PM

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so intended skips..... is getting into mantis village part of the logic without claw or dash or anything?

wispy root Oct 12, 2017, 4:25 PM

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I think it is

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It is possible by doing a pretty hard fireball skip in queen's station

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:26 PM

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okay. just wanted to know if that was an intended part of the logic

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 4:35 PM

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Yeah

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Only in hard mode

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You need to do a triple fireball past queen's station then explosion pogo without dash

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Then either the hard as fuck mantis pogo to the left side or 2x fireball skip

bleak robin Oct 12, 2017, 4:36 PM

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Oh you only have to do that

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:36 PM

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or you could go around

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 4:36 PM

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You can't go around

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:36 PM

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oh right. non dash

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no*

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 4:37 PM

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Yeah

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It's probably the hardest thing the randomizer can make you do

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 4:37 PM

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yeah. sounds like it. lol

buoyant wasp Oct 12, 2017, 6:52 PM

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looking at #races-discussion - it seems like the randomizer is currently pretty easy to know all the locations of stuff. Does it really just store it in plain text XML? Would think that it should be a seed and that the ability to determine what's in the seed should be difficult without going extra distance. (but maybe i'm just misunderstanding)

young walrus Oct 12, 2017, 6:57 PM

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It generates the random locations based on a number that you input in the game. That generates/decodes the randomization and puts it in a text file for reference later (if desired).

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Sure, you could just go open that text file and cheat but what fun is that

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question? The seed locations aren't generated until the game is started.

rain cedar Oct 12, 2017, 7:20 PM

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The randomization algorithm is what's stored in xml, essentially

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Not the actual randomizations

buoyant obsidian Oct 12, 2017, 8:02 PM

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The google doc setup is kinda inconvenient to me, it takes quite a long time for my internet to download / reupload the big .zip

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just updated Lightbringer with mana regen balancing

daring snow Oct 12, 2017, 8:29 PM

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@buoyant obsidian thanks!

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I've been speedrunning it so I'll test it tomorrow 😃

summer tapir Oct 13, 2017, 8:50 AM

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I did yesterday a randomizer run sean, it's super fun zurairNice

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the only thing bugging me was the display of the wrong sprites for the items when picking them up, but it's not that bad

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 8:52 AM

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no way to fix that

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atm

summer tapir Oct 13, 2017, 8:52 AM

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hmm I see

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I didnt really understand the difference between Easy and Hard tho. Is there a chance for a "harder" randomization?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 8:54 AM

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hard has harder requirements for each item

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so its more likely a difficult or obscure trick is required to complete the run

summer tapir Oct 13, 2017, 8:55 AM

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hmm, I see.

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:44 PM

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small thing

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but, with the randomizer, on the main menu, where you can toggle randomizer off/easy/hard

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you can't get to that menu using a controller. if you use up/down buttons, it skips over the randomizer input field

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works with the mouse though

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also, it'd be hilarious if the mask/soul fragments were randomized too

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:47 PM

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the ui is a confusing place

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and we basically can't edit it atm

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:47 PM

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ah, so just placing stuff on top of it?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:47 PM

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well not the way controllers interact with it

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but yeah, just adding our own ui in the free space

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:48 PM

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i believe that's in the works wyza

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:48 PM

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@rain cedar I think it'd be a good idea to add a version to mods

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:49 PM

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yes

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:49 PM

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like just above the 1.1.1.8
write DebugMod - 0.1.0.0

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but obviously for every installed mod

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:49 PM

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versioning = highly important for diagnosing issues

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:49 PM

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Yeah, mod version would be easy to implement

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Getting controller to work for the menus is basically impossible, though

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:50 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ i'm not fussed, but figured I'd point it out if it was one of those things where you developed and played entirely on KB/M 😃

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:50 PM

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nope because keyboard doesn't work either

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its only interactable with the mouse

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:50 PM

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My day job is coding, and it's always stuff you never think of that gets you

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:51 PM

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yeah, I'm currenntly working on ui stuff, hopefully I can get an extra pane added to the inventory

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:53 PM

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that'd be interesting, thoughts on what you'd put there, or just the goal of "get the ability to add Pane's added so that whoever can put whatever"

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:54 PM

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adding panes would be useful for most mods

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bonfire could add a level screen

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most mods could add new charms

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:54 PM

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It'd be really nice for Lightbringer

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That mod replaces like half the charms

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And sure some of those make sense to replace

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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I understand the inventory control

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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But others like lifeblood heart

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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I've just not figured out how to edit it at runtime

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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anyway, thoughts on adding masks/soul vessels to the pool of randomizer stuff? or is that not possible due to their nature?

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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It's possible but harder than the other stuff

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Because I'd have to look at sceneData

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Everything I'm doing now is in the player data

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:55 PM

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ah

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would think that would add a level of brutality when trying to find stuff

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:56 PM

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All the player data stores is your mask count

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Scene data stores which you've picked up

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:56 PM

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could you have it just ignore the scene data?

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since the count is what matters?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:56 PM

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you could remove the transitions from Blocker, Blocker Control

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specifically Idle -> Close

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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oh nvm. it needs to look at scene data to know that you've picked up that item

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ignore me

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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Yeah Mickely

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Alright KDT I'll try that

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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gonna love the seed you get where dream nail is dropped by the glubber effigy 😉

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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That's impossible

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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not possible

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:57 PM

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😦

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guessing one of them is behind something you need shadow dash for?

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trying to think of where that would be...

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 5:58 PM

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it'd just be cancer lol

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:58 PM

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it's not that. the algorithm doesn't allow it

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cuz getting all grubs would be so stupid

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 5:59 PM

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Yeah, I'm specifically not allowing grubberfly/grubsong to be anything important

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 5:59 PM

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lol, but it's the shacktool of hollowknight

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or the pedistal seed of zelda

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😃

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 5:59 PM

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it's a bit different from pedestal seed. lol

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pedestal seed would add like.... 15 minutes or so to a run

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grub elegy would add like.... an hour and a half

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:00 PM

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how many do you need for grubsong? (edit fixed)

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10?

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:00 PM

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grubsong? 10

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:00 PM

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that wouldn't be terrible to have something good behind

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:00 PM

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nah. that one would be decent

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would have to work out which grubs are possible with what abilities though to properly code it

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:00 PM

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10 of them is easy enough and getting a few grubs isn't bad for geo either

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my first seed last night had mothwing behind fragile strength, yay 600 geo early game without getting into the city

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:01 PM

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Yeah, early geo can suck pretty hard

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Not sure what to do about that, though

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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that's rando

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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there's some large enemies you can farm

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it's not a roadblock

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just.... annoying

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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the big guys in FC, the ones with the clubs

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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yeah

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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drop like 40 or 50 I think

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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43

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plus the headbanging shroom

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in fungal

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:03 PM

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and you can get a couple hundred out of early grubs

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which could be valuable if grubsong was something that could be good

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:03 PM

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                PlayMakerFSM fsm = FSMUtility.LocateFSM(blocker, "Blocker Control");

                for (int i = 0; i <= fsm.FsmStates.Length; i++)
                {
                    if (fsm.FsmStates[i].Name == "Idle")
                    {
                        fsm.FsmStates[i].Transitions = fsm.FsmStates[i].Transitions.Skip(1).ToArray();
                    }
                }

I think something like this would work too lazy to test though hollowface

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completely unrelated to what you guys are talking about

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this is at sean

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:04 PM

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i mean... it's randomizer, it's relevant

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lol

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:04 PM

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course my biggest fail was that before i got to fragile stuff, i had bought a couple of charms (spell twister+shaman stone), if I hadn't done that, it would have been much less painful

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:04 PM

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unlocking VS position would be pretty huge

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oh yeah.... i've learned to not buy stuff unless i know i don't have to buy essentials

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:05 PM

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Alright KDT, I'll try that

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:05 PM

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yeah, it's my first rando run, which i haven't even finished yet. gonna take a few to get used to which are fast places to check and when to spend/not to spend

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:06 PM

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yeah. early game routing is pretty consistent

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:06 PM

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what about charm notches, any way to throw those into the pool too?

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(or a reason not to?)

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:06 PM

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that would be weird with the ones you can buy from salubra

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since those are locked behind charm count

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:06 PM

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It's hard for the same reason as masks/vessels

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At least I think so

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:07 PM

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so what you're saying is, there's a chance 😃

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:07 PM

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Maybe

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I'm not really as interested in randomizing notches

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:07 PM

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its not a major thing anyway

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you never pick them up

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:07 PM

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mask/vessel stuff is more interesting imo

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:07 PM

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same as health / vessels

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atleast not in a race

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:08 PM

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if you know masks/vessels are randomized, would make things much more interesting

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:08 PM

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^

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:08 PM

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well if it was to other stuff like skills

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:08 PM

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what if the shroom notch could have mantis claws 😃

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:08 PM

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Alright KDT, this works but there seems to also be a transition to block from spitting

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Should be easy to remove that as well

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Thanks

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:09 PM

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oh

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Shot Anim End

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is the name of that state

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:09 PM

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Alright

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:09 PM

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however

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its the 2nd event

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not the first

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:10 PM

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Yeah, I'll change the Skip(1) to actually checking state name I think

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:10 PM

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tbh, making this viewer

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made this shit way easier

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:11 PM

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Makes sense

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:11 PM

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oh

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you could also remove the fireball check

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by sending Set R and Set L straight to roller

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:12 PM

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What do those events do?

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:12 PM

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OH

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what is the fireball check

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and chance of roller?

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can you see that?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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er probably

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fireball check says if you would fire a roller but you've got no fireball it shoots goop

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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makes sense

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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Oh ok

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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and i think we've known that

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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I'll have to change that

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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thsoe events literally just spawn the roller

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:13 PM

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I want him to still shoot rollers if you've only got dive

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Dive can hit him

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 6:14 PM

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but knowing the chance to spawn a roller and if there's another trigger would help normal runs

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:14 PM

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can roller? shoots goop instead

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GetPlayerDataInt(fireballLevel)
HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.IntCompare

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this is all there is

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if the int is 0 then shoots goop

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else shoots roller

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:14 PM

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This might not be a problem, anyway

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Depending on how it checks fireballLevel

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If it uses GetInt then randomizer will override that and return 1 anyway

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Because the fireball pickup has been obtained

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:17 PM

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they are weighted the same @young walrus

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unless there is some bug in the randomness its 50/50

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:22 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Wtf

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:23 PM

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congrats you turned the shaman into a charm

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a whole new rando category

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where even the bugs themselves can be charms

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:23 PM

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I need to test if this happens every time you try to pick that up before talking to her

#

That's bizarre

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:24 PM

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inb4 the mask maker is dream gate 😉

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so with your guys' modding tools, do you have to redeploy the dll + restart the game every time you make a change? or do you have some way to hotload changes in?

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:30 PM

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Gotta recompile the dll and restart the game

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:32 PM

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bleh. wonder if there is some way to unload the assembly on demand. hmmm

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probably too many things that would hold object references to do that

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i guess

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:32 PM

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Modifying the game while it's running and having it actually take effect is not very realistic

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:33 PM

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well, if it was something where you could just exit to main menu, reload and then go back into the game, (assuming the mod isn't modifying the main menu)

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 6:33 PM

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might aswell reload the game then

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:33 PM

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guess it depends on how long it takes for the game to load to main menu for you

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i want to say even with a NVMe, it's a good 3-5 seconds more to exit game/start game

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not as bad as trying to fiddle with factorio mods, when that load time is like 15-20s even on a high end machine 😃

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can you attach the VS debugger to it?

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Not sure

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Steam tends to react poorly to debuggers being attached to things

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 6:37 PM

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though again that might not be helpful, idk, mostly curious. I'd love to play with modding, but just don't have the time to really devote to it, so mostly just gathering understanding for the sake of adding knowledge

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 7:04 PM

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could nail upgrades be randomized?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:04 PM

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pale ore could be

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technically the upgrades could too

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 7:05 PM

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i'd randomize pale ore before nail upgrades

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having items locked behind pale or AND geo seems like a bit much

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:05 PM

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you could put ore into relic + key pool

young walrus Oct 13, 2017, 7:05 PM

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keys are in the relic pool?

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also, did shopkeeper key get added in?

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:06 PM

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dunno

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sean was messing with whiteKey which I think is shopkeepers key

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:13 PM

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whiteKey is elegant key

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And that was for debug mod

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:16 PM

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ah mb

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:17 PM

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Also hasDashSlash is great slash and hasUpSlash is dash slash

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:17 PM

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yes

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:17 PM

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Team cherry fucked up their nail art vars

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Annoying

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I get the vars being different from in game like white key

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But there's literally an ability called dash slash and hasDashSlash is unrelated

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:24 PM

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can you really trust the guys who instead of making an array, made 36 seperate variables to track charms

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:25 PM

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They have an array of equipped charms as well as the equippedCharm_x vars, though

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They did both

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Lmao

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Actually even worse than just not having an array

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:26 PM

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those are actually used for different things

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the array is for the thing on the charm pane, that shows your used up notches

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:27 PM

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Is there a good reason for them to be used for separate things, though?

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Could just use the array for everything

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:28 PM

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technically equippedCharm_x == false is faster than checking that x doesn't exist in an array

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but I doubt thats what they were going for

rain cedar Oct 13, 2017, 7:28 PM

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Yeah

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And it's not really a big enough performance difference to matter, anyway

leaden hedge Oct 13, 2017, 7:28 PM

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I'd say its a playmaker thing, but I know you can call a method

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so you could just create / call getCharmEquipped(x)

buoyant wasp Oct 13, 2017, 8:17 PM

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if you're going for performance, an array may not even make sense, you could probably go even faster using bit-shifting

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though I don't know that they necessarily needed it there. An array of Enums would have been sufficient

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:05 AM

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@rain cedar - are there charms that aren't randomized ?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:05 AM

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A few, yeah

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I'm gonna try to add in all of them that are missing except kingsoul/void heart and shape of unn

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Which might just be joni's blessing and lifeblood core

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Not sure

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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glowing womb?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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Glowing womb is random

bleak robin Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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i want unn to spit out a compass for me

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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ah, so i just got lucky that this seed had it in vanilla

bleak robin Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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i need that to be canon

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:06 AM

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Shape of Unn can't really be random until Isma's Tear is random

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:07 AM

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also, found a place where you can get stuck that requires save/quit. the place where you get the double jump, if you don't have it, i don't see a way out

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though i suppose save quit there is faster anyway

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:07 AM

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I don't really care about places where you can quit

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:08 AM

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k

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:08 AM

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Too many of those to worry about fixing them all for every item set

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Places where you're actually completely stuck I'll try to fix, though

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Let me know if that happens

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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k

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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plus, you can still get to double jump, even if you can't get back out

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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double jump is randomized

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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that's why Sean took the bench away there

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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unless you are talking about glitching

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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i know, but you can still check there

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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oh, yeah, for sure

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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I might have hard locked in the randomizer

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 AM

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how so?

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:10 AM

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is there any thing in the logic that weights things like double jump being closer to the beginning or is it purely random outside of it not being behind something that requires it or a dependency?

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:10 AM

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I got to the abyss without the walljump. I picked up the shadow cloak item which auto saved the game there

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and now I cant get back out of the ancient basin

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unless I miss something

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:10 AM

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The only way you could have gotten shade cloak without wall jump is with glitches

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And I'm not really building it around glitches for now

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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what do you mean with glitches?

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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you can sean

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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I didnt oob or anything

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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you can get to hornet 2 with just double jump

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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yea

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 AM

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Hang on

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Oh wait

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I get it

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You can get to shade cloak without wall jump if you already have shade cloak from somewhere else

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I didn't think of that option

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:12 AM

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yea

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I managed to get out if the abyss by luring a shadow ghost all the way up

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:12 AM

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Jesus

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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hahaha

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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that's dedication

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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that's actually hilarious

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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but when I get back to the beginning of the basin I cant get back

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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Alright

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I'll think about a good way to fix that

summer tapir Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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oki, just wanted to let you know

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:13 AM

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is it possible to just remove that hard save?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:14 AM

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Yeah, maybe

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:17 AM

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you get that stuff figured out with the baldur for VS?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:17 AM

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Yeah I got the Baldur to not close anymore a while ago

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:18 AM

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cool cool. is that the most recent build on the google drive then?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:18 AM

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Nah

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Vengeful Spirit isn't in the randomizer yet, I'm just rewriting the xml file right now to make more sense

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Changing some requirements while I'm at it because some of them don't make too much sense

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Added in grubberfly's elegy as a potential item for getting into greenpath after watching xeph play earlier

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Hadn't thought of that before

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:19 AM

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ooh

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good point

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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I should've thought of it

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Lightbringer is just reskinned grubberfly beams

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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yeah.

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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And I kill the baldur without fireball every time I play that

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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even that alone would allow VS to be randomized

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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Nah

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:20 AM

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...provided elegy is somewhere early

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:22 AM

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could the nail master's skills be part of the skill pool?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Yeah, probably

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One thing at a time, though

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Not gonna try too much new stuff at once

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:25 AM

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hah, np, just throwing out ideas 😃

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:26 AM

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Do you think it's worth doing anything about the waterways bench?

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If you rest there without wall jump or monarch wings you're stuck

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Yeah, if spells are being randomized that's worth fixing, I think

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Without random dive placement you would have had to pogo on enemies to get to the bench, but now it will be much easier

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:27 AM

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could make it possible only in hard mode?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:28 AM

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No, you're completely stuck if you rest there without wall jump or monarch wings

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:28 AM

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ah

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 AM

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I'll just remove the bench if you don't have one

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Same thing I do in basin

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:29 AM

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oh nice, you can dynamically remove them? neat

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:30 AM

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As a general rule, you can do anything to the scenes as long as you're only using game objects that already exist in the scene

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So I could turn a screen into a jumping puzzle if I really wanted to put in the effort

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But I couldn't easily do something like put a saw from white palace in the soul master fight

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:32 AM

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that'd be sadistic

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 12:32 AM

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it'd be hilarious

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lol

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:32 AM

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I could actually do that

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It just wouldn't be easy

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And it would make the game take forever to load

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Because basically what would be happening in the load is:
Load the Soul Master room
Load a random room in White Palace
Save a reference to a saw
Deload the White Palace room
Move the saw into the middle of the fight arena

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:45 AM

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is wayward compass randomized?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:46 AM

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Nah not in the current version

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But there's no code changes to get that in, so I will add it

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 12:54 AM

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wonder if there should be a #randomizer channel, I mean, #archived-modding-development makes sense, but if lots of people are doing it... /shrug

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 12:57 AM

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The only reason to have multiple channels is so that multiple discussions don't happen in the same place at the same time

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So as long as that's not a problem I don't see a reason for mod specific channels

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 5:16 AM

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@leaden hedge does your bonfire mod increase the health/damage/etc of later bosses such that just going through the game vanilla is basically impossible (IE you need to level)

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:17 AM

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its gradows hollowface

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and it increases health by 2 at most iirc

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it starts at 1.4 and ends at 2.4

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:35 AM

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Great, the game isn't just checking the ints directly for if you can cast spells

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Now I have to figure out some magic to return the right number when you're trying to cast

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Seems like charms and abilities are the only things where I can fuck with the Get/Set functions without messing them up

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:40 AM

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check HutongGames.Playmaker.Actions.GetPlayerDataInt

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unless spells don't use that

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:41 AM

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All that does is call PlayerData.GetInt, though

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:44 AM

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oh this is quite an fsm

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📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:44 AM

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Is that the spell control?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:44 AM

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yes

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:44 AM

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Looks pretty bad

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:45 AM

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📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:45 AM

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Why is enter quake not connected to anything?

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I guess you wouldn't know

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:45 AM

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oh it is

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this thing is just so big, my lines dont reach

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:45 AM

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Nice

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:45 AM

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I make a 2k by 2k svg to draw lines on

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:47 AM

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I'm surprised spell casting doesn't lag more

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:48 AM

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no surprise its glitchy af though

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:49 AM

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Well, I'm able to cast spells when I set the int for them now

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Hopefully the pickups work fine too

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 5:59 AM

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oh btw, Knight, Spell Control, has a bool called "Dream Focus" which im pretty sure controls whether or not you heal or suck

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if you didnt find it yet

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 5:59 AM

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Alright, I'll try changing that when you warp in debug mod

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Well, checking stack trace seems to work for fireball but I don't think it's going to work for wraiths

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Guess I don't have an easy solution

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Have to mess with the fsm

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:13 AM

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why won't it work for wraiths

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looking at the fsm, it looks the same

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:16 AM

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Don't ask me why the stack is different

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I think I did get the shitty easy solution working, though

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Just gonna test it some more to be sure we're not all running a broken randomizer tomorrow

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:17 AM

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did you remove the floors in soul masters room?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:18 AM

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No, but I'll look into it

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There's probably some fsm event I can send to them to do it cleanly

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Nah, this doesn't work for dive

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Didn't spawn after soul master

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Guess the next thing to try is checking if the fsm is in one of the has spell? states

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:31 AM

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If you can use reflection to edit ActionData.fsmStringParams you could just change what its looking for

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to say _fireballLevel

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:32 AM

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Yeah, that would be better

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Because with my way it is technically possible for another check to happen at the same time

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Which would mess it up

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@leaden hedge Could you get me a picture of the acid fsm?

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📎 AcidAcid_BoxAcid_Armour_Check2Wxkig.json

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:38 AM

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Oh wow that's so much less than I expected

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:38 AM

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Check
PlayerDataBoolTest(hasAcidArmour) is check

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and
Disable
SetFsmInt(undefined, damages_hero, damageDealt, 0, FALSE)
SetFsmInt(undefined, damages_hero, hazardType, 0, FALSE)

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is what disable does

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undefined is base gameobject in this case

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:40 AM

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Thanks

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:40 AM

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oh and the FALSE is just whether or not it runs every frame

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which in this case it isn't

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:41 AM

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I think there is more to this than this FSM

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I've tried setting those to 0 and it just got rid of the damage but didn't add swimming

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:42 AM

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hmm

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compare one of the gameobjects with and without

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Oh yeah, the water fsm is way more complicated

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Probably needs something similar to that on it

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📎 UntaggedSurface_Water_RegionSurface_Water_RegionDh7MTA.json

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:44 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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I think if you just add that fsm

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it'll work

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:45 AM

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The problem is in making a copy of that

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Not sure how really to do that

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:45 AM

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can you not deserialize that json

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i'd ask kcghost

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:47 AM

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I'll look into it more later

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Gonna try to get spells working tonight instead

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:48 AM

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I think if you do PlayMakerFSM fsm = JsonUtility.FsomJson<PlayMakerFSM>(waterJson);

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it "should" work

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 6:55 AM

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https://puu.sh/xXKz1/8421ec81c8.png

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got pretty darn far and still no dash ;_;

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randomizer mod

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have half the charms

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 6:55 AM

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Well, you've got a lot of other things so you don't need it too badly

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 6:55 AM

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yeah, i'm still spamming dash out of habit

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it feels slow

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 6:56 AM

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you can beat the game rn hollowface

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 6:58 AM

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it is fun having to pogo and double jump instead of dash though. it's like a different game sometimes

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:04 AM

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I'm trying to edit the fsm with reflection but the only fields I'm seeing are type_info and _impl

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No fsmStringParams

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Looking at the ActionData on the has spell? states

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 7:06 AM

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https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/PlainHairyDragonfly

Gfycat

Hollow Knight 09.27.2017 - 02.49.55.10.DVR

▶ Play video

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harder than white palace

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:07 AM

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typeof(ActionData).GetProperties().Select(f => f.Name).ToList();

what does that print

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:08 AM

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I'll try that

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I was doing
typeof(ActionData).GetType().GetFields(BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Static)

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Alright that's found a lot of fields but not the string params one

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There's GenericParamterAttributes

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I'll look into that

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Alright, trying to get the type of the variable has somehow caused an error

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:22 AM

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NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

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then something to do with a camera

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:23 AM

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@rain cedar - was thinking about the rando logic. in my first 2 seeds (which I admit is rather narrow), both had dream nail easily acheivable early on via shops.

One thing that the super metroid randomizer does, is bar certain powerful/coveted/required items from being available super early in the game, to force higher chances of having to explore to find them.

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Nah, I'm not getting a null reference, I'm getting object does not match target type

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But I don't get why

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I mean state.ActionData is obviously of type ActionData

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:23 AM

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given dream nail being one of the primary linchpins of the game, would think it might be better to ensure it can't be in a shop and can't be the earliest accessible items

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:24 AM

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@buoyant wasp I'm already limiting the appearance of important items

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There's just 3 dream nail pickups

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Because getting dream gate or awoken dream nail first gives you dream nail instead and swaps awoken/gate to be where dream nail was meant to be

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:25 AM

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hmm

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then perhaps all 3 can't be early? I mean, to finish the game you need, what, dash+mantis+dream nail+super dash?

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:26 AM

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How do we define "early", though?

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All I'm doing now is making charms 4x as likely

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:27 AM

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all shops + fireball charm +thorns.

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:27 AM

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Fireball charm?

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:27 AM

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uhm, normally soul catcher

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:27 AM

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Right

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:28 AM

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basically ensure that it is behind obtaining at least 1 movement ability and no shops. I think finding everything you need to beat the game in a shop to be meh. This run I had Dream Nail + Mothwing Cloak both in shops

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:31 AM

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Yeah

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Shops were a lot worse before I added the weight to charms

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First run I did on that got all 5 movement abilities between salubra and sly

buoyant wasp Oct 14, 2017, 7:32 AM

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haha

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perhaps a hard limit to say that in addition to it not being able to have dream nail, the shops can't, combined, have more than 1 or 2 abilities

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(including the spells assuming you can get those via pickups after your new stuff)

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cause then it's just, "hey i gotta go farm 1500 geo and i'm good to go"

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:33 AM

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Yeah, could be a good idea

young walrus Oct 14, 2017, 7:35 AM

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just had a seed where dream nail was at sharp shadow

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gate was at awoken nail, and awoken nail was at elegy

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BAH

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:35 AM

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you know what I just realised, when I was testing this reflection stuff and it not working

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I was moving my /Mods/dll -> my bin folder

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:36 AM

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Nice

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:40 AM

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                GameObject inv = UnityEngine.GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");
                PlayMakerFSM fsm = FSMUtility.LocateFSM(inv, "Spell Control");

                for (int i = 0; i < fsm.FsmStates.Length; i++)
                {
                    if (fsm.FsmStates[i].Name == "Has Fireball?")
                    {
                        FieldInfo[] fieldInfo = typeof(HutongGames.PlayMaker.ActionData).GetFields(BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance);
                        for (int j = 0; j < fieldInfo.Length; j++)
                        {
                            if (fieldInfo[j].Name == "fsmStringParams") {
                                Console.AddLine(fieldInfo[j].Name);
                            }
                        }
                    }
                }

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yes players variable is called inv hollowface

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:40 AM

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You can just do HeroController.instance.spellControl

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:41 AM

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either way that prints fsmStringParams to the console

heavy geyser Oct 14, 2017, 7:41 AM

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There you are hklove

📎 2017-10-14_00-39-50.png

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:41 AM

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so its definitely in there

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:43 AM

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I'm not sure why that works when mine didn't

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I mean the only difference I can see is I had BindingFlags.Static in there too

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Thanks, though

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:44 AM

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when I just did ActionData it gave me issues

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I had to type out HutongGames.PlayMaker.ActionData for some reason

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:44 AM

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Weird

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Maybe there is some other ActionData class in another namespace

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:46 AM

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which charm# costs one

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:46 AM

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1, for one

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:46 AM

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actually I guess I can charmSlotsFilled

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alright let me test this

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:58 AM

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Alright, I've got a reference to the fireballLevel string now

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But I don't think we can add variables to playerdata without it breaking

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So I'm not sure what my options here are now

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Didn't think this far ahead

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:58 AM

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why do you need to

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change the string, and look for the new string in PlayerData.GetInt

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 7:59 AM

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Oh, will it just work that way?

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I assumed it would get an error because the int isn't there

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 7:59 AM

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it should I think you have to reload the state somehow though

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well, only if you use the GetValue thats in GetInt

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 8:00 AM

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GetInt just uses reflection to get variables in PlayerData though

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 8:00 AM

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so put an if above that, and say if string = _fireballLevel return whatever

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it'll never get to the reflection part

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 8:01 AM

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Oh yeah, obviously

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 8:02 AM

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                GameObject inv = UnityEngine.GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");
                PlayMakerFSM fsm = FSMUtility.LocateFSM(inv, "Spell Control");

                for (int i = 0; i < fsm.FsmStates.Length; i++)
                {
                    if (fsm.FsmStates[i].Name == "Has Fireball?")
                    {
                        FieldInfo[] fieldInfo = typeof(HutongGames.PlayMaker.ActionData).GetFields(BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance);
                        for (int j = 0; j < fieldInfo.Length; j++)
                        {
                            if (fieldInfo[j].Name == "fsmStringParams") {
                                List<FsmString> value = new List<FsmString>();
                                value.Add("charmCost_1");
                                fieldInfo[j].SetValue(fsm.FsmStates[i].ActionData, value);
                                fsm.FsmStates[i].LoadActions();
                            }
                        }
                    }
                }

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you need to make sure to do LoadActions()

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to reload the state

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although this sets it to charmCost_1 hollowface

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thats easier to test the actual state is working

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@solemn rivet when you wake up or whatever, what do you reckon to making the more powerful spells require higher int

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 10:33 AM

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Put up a new randomizer build:
Added spells to randomizer
Added a couple missing charms
Baldur in shaman hut no longer closes
Breakable floors after soul master are gone if you don't have dive
Redid xml format to be more easily changeable

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 10:34 AM

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what about ismas hollowface

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 10:34 AM

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There's a small bug in that reloading a scene with dive or wraiths in it after grabbing them makes the pickups reappear

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But I've deemed that not important enough to care about right now

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And nah no Isma's, but I'll look into duplicating the water fsm

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But yeah I think the wraiths and dive pickups are looking at the playerdata ints directly for some reason

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And I'm just keeping those at 0

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Should be easy to fix, but I'm going to bed now

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:02 AM

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@leaden hedge Send me your ModLog.txt

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:02 AM

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Seems to be working fine for me, got dashmaster from fireball and I can't cast fireball

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:02 AM

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📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:03 AM

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Looks fine

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But to be fair I don't do very extensive debug output

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:03 AM

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only thing I picked up was fury

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which was dash

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:04 AM

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Yeah, this says vengeful spirit is at lifeblood core

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I dunno

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Turn off debug mod and try again, I guess

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Just in case that's the problem

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Don't really see how it would be, though

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Anything odd about your setup for the game?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:06 AM

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I play in japanese but I don't think that'd affect it

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:06 AM

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Shouldn't, but I'll try that

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Really the only way I see this could happen is if the code to change the fsm is crashing

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But I've got that in a try catch to print errors

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:08 AM

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blocker worked though

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:08 AM

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Can you send me the .rnd save file?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:09 AM

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I restarted to test it without debug enabled

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I uninstalled debug mod and it worked

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:16 AM

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Odd

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I've got them both on and it's fine

void tree Oct 14, 2017, 11:16 AM

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The baldur in front of greenpath seems to only spit fireballs, even with vengeful picked up

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:16 AM

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might have been my reference I made to test it

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:17 AM

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That makes sense, Trinomi

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I should fix that

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:18 AM

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the state is Can Roller?

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first string param is fireballLevel

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:18 AM

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Alright, thanks

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Any scenes have baldurs besides this and baldur shell?

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:20 AM

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wheres baldur shell

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is that the one with 2 on either side

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Yes

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:21 AM

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I believe those are the only 2 places

rain cedar Oct 14, 2017, 11:31 AM

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Alright, fixed

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Give me a sec to upload it

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Alright it's up

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Going to sleep for real this time if nobody finds another important bug soon

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:35 AM

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I just got desolate dive twice...

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:35 AM

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like from 2 seperate places

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or from soul master twice?

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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from dashmaster and from mark of pride

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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do you have lv2 dive?

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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no

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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wow bug

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fix sean hollowface

wispy root Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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aaahhh... sorry D:

leaden hedge Oct 14, 2017, 11:36 AM

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I assume you picked up lv2 first so it became lv1

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but lv1 didn't become lv2