#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 5

flint orbit Jul 16, 2017, 6:10 PM

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hmmmm ill double check

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:12 PM

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Yes, export all the assets for me precious Unity Studio <3

flint orbit Jul 16, 2017, 6:12 PM

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I just extracted the archive again and its save anywhere

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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@fair rampart make sure you set it so the exported assets are sorted by source file

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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I did ^^

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Also you (someone) said sentires were about the size of the king... the big red sentires in CoT?

flint orbit Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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the link you posted

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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I personally exported it twice, once by source file and once w/ all the assets together

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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A friendly NPC would be preferable haha

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:13 PM

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so I can easily browse the files, then find the source file by searching the filename

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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no the smaller sentries

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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no, the husk sentries

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the lil' grunto nail dudes

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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Hmmm but those attack

flint orbit Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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@fair rampart just redownloaded and its still SA mod

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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yeah... corny

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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someone make a mod that allows you to do white palace multiple times if thats possible

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:14 PM

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Friendly NPC would be better because I'd like to swap the sprites with the King haha

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So only idle stances would be good

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:15 PM

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can't you just use the walk animation of the husk sentries

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:15 PM

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Tiso maybe?

flint orbit Jul 16, 2017, 6:17 PM

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Okay now my backup dll file thats supposed to be the original is a SA one hahaha

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I think this is weird issues on my end

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OHHHHHHHH

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fuck me Im dumb

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im in the wrong fucking folder hahahahahhaha

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im in hollow knight current not

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yeah

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coocoo

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:34 PM

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Aaahhh why does the player spritesheet have to be so big and complicated

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:35 PM

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idk because it's the player character

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:35 PM

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I mean I get it

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But for mod making it's just so horrible haha

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Imagine going through all of those and manually replacing them

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:36 PM

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https://gyazo.com/598b562cb2e9cc4b57e09b409cda3446

Gyazo

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Hell

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Yes

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:36 PM

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It's loading... what did you do

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Ayyy

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:36 PM

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why can't you dash like a normal person

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Infinite shade cloak

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:37 PM

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Because i want to do cool stuff corny

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:37 PM

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yeah, but this seems pretty shady

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hollowdab

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:37 PM

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ba dum tsh

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:38 PM

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Well this is fun

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Tad too op though

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:46 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/FJy5Cbs.jpg

Imgur

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oshit the HK spritesheet

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It's transparent but imgur wants to assert dominance

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:46 PM

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why did you post it to imgur

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:46 PM

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Too big for Discord

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:46 PM

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rip

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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Damn

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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📎 atlas0_378009.png

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Ohhhh Radiance too

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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yeah

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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Datamining is great.

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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turns out there are sprites for everything in the game hollowface

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:47 PM

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gasp

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 6:48 PM

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No way, really?

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:48 PM

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I can't believe this

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This is shocking information guys

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📎 atlas0_19507.png

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Top 10 saddest anime deaths

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📎 atlas0_0350050.png

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The best spritesheet, of the best creature

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:50 PM

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_gittlelirl

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:50 PM

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📎 4.png

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I'll stop now but I had to share this magesty

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📎 atlas0_013004.png

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....mobadis

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Best idea

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Replace the original HK's sprites from the Abyss cutscene with Zote

alpine cloak Jul 16, 2017, 6:52 PM

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She THICC

thorny imp Jul 16, 2017, 6:54 PM

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some of the spritesheets make great mobile backgrounds

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:55 PM

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📎 image.png

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 6:56 PM

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this looks so sad

📎 blacksmith_hut_dark_windows.png

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 6:56 PM

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thats literallly just a door

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 6:57 PM

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Tragic, really.

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Truly depressing.

thorny imp Jul 16, 2017, 6:59 PM

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I wish there was a bit more about this character considering what we have http://i.imgur.com/gZoyY1A.png

Imgur

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 6:59 PM

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She sucks.

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 6:59 PM

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emilitia is a person

thorny imp Jul 16, 2017, 7:00 PM

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as in she's set up to have been through a heck of a change, and then literally nothing else

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by change, I mean the change of Hallownest over the ages

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:03 PM

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lotta sprites in here. Any sprites for enemies not in the game? I know there are a couple references in playerdata for the hunters journal for enemies that don't exist.

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 7:04 PM

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this is unused

📎 atlas0_40603.png

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:04 PM

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possibly an unused mantis sprite?

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idk

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it looks like that to me

vernal rover Jul 16, 2017, 7:04 PM

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I don't think this is a mantis

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:04 PM

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it looks kinda like a mantis to me

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 7:05 PM

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I refuse

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:05 PM

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???

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:06 PM

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"killedWhiteDefender": false,
"killsWhiteDefender": 1,
"newDataWhiteDefender": false,
"killedGreyPrince": false,
"killsGreyPrince": 1,
"newDataGreyPrince": false,
"killedZotelingBalloon": false,
"killsZotelingBalloon": 1,
"newDataZotelingBalloon": false,
"killedZotelingHopper": false,
"killsZotelingHopper": 1,
"newDataZotelingHopper": false,
"killedZotelingBuzzer": false,
"killsZotelingBuzzer": 1,
"newDataZotelingBuzzer": false,

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one of the 'zoteling's perhaps

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 7:06 PM

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That's the seeeecret stuff

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Nope, they're unrelated

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Zotelings were added in preparation for Content Pack 1

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:07 PM

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ah, fun

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 7:07 PM

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presumably

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:07 PM

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zotelings?

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:07 PM

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@scarlet gale Have you been enjoying your limitless-ish energy blast

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 7:09 PM

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I toned it down a little, but yeah this is how i imagined dashmaster to be like kinda

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:09 PM

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^^

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Let's edit all the charms :kappa

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 7:09 PM

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Hmm can i edit the damage of sharp shadow/ value of spell twister? If so, where?

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:11 PM

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📎 20170716201105_1.jpg

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I tried giving myself a darker cloak

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To match my imprisoned big brother knight

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But it doesn't look as grey :<

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 7:12 PM

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ooh

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make MC's horns like the young HK's

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:13 PM

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B-b-but that would take so long

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The spritesheet is so big

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:14 PM

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make phite walace redoable when

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:16 PM

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Oh right, I can try that

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:16 PM

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thats gotKingsFragment

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but it's not super nice, ive been looking at editing the FSMs to maybe make it nice. You got back in and 1. The side doors are closed up, so presumably the Orb bools. 2. The king is there and you can repick up the fragment. It doesn't break anything but it isn't ideal.

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:20 PM

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📎 Capturar.JPG

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Don't bother with 'visitedWhitePalace', 'gotKingFragment' is what controls access.

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Then what's visitedWhitePalace? :S

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Also is there anything that checks if the HK/Radiance has been defeated?

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:22 PM

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dunno, just that you visited it 😃 Actually, hold on, I'll grep through the fsms I have to see if it is referenced

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:23 PM

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Like, can I run code only when I achieve an ending?

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:24 PM

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I'm sure you can find a hook somewhere. Think there is a bool for that, and some checks for what cinematic scenes to play

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visitedWhitePalace is references in a lot of 'Area Title Controller' fsms for several levels. Not sure if there is any real consequential logic attached to it though

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:27 PM

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Oh

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Probably how the text appears big at the center-ish of the screen when you first visit an area

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But if you're coming back it's smaller and at the corner

charred flax Jul 16, 2017, 7:28 PM

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Just wanted to say thanks a lot to whoever made the glass soul mod I'm really enjoying it

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:28 PM

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That would be @buoyant obsidian

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 7:28 PM

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:)

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Glad to hear

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 7:28 PM

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har

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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har har fiddle dee dee

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Being a pirate is alright to be

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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no

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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no

hazy sentinel Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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it's yar har you heretic

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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I'm so sorry

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:<

marble scarab Jul 16, 2017, 7:29 PM

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banned

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 7:35 PM

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So uh, what other bools are related to White Palace? @gritty snow

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Apart from the gotKingFragment or whatever it was, and the ones I showed

charred flax Jul 16, 2017, 7:37 PM

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is fury of the fallen always active or never active in glass soul?

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@buoyant obsidian

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 7:38 PM

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Never, you're always at full HP

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 7:46 PM

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@fair rampart I think that's it, but I haven't tried the others besides KingFragment yet, and noticed visited did nothing.

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@fair rampart do you happen to know how to get fileID/pathID from the C# code?

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seems every asset has a fileID and pathID (listed in UABE), trying to find a way at them as the fsms are deserailized 'OnAfterDeserialization'. As of now I am saving by name and a hash, since a lot of the names duplicate per level. But it would be best to know the IDs to easily replace them in UABE. But they seem mysterious as hell, dnSpy can't find them anywhere.

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Here is 'Control_-941660649'
https://pastebin.com/B3w70h8C

Pastebin

{ "fsm": { "dataVersion": 1, "usedInTemplate": { - Pastebin.com

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I hacked up PlayMakerFSM::OnAfterDeserialize to do some dumping:
public void OnAfterDeserialize()
{
PlayMakerFSM.NotMainThread = true;
string text4 = JsonUtility.ToJson(this, true);
int hashCode = text4.GetHashCode();
string savePath = string.Concat(new string[]
{
Application.persistentDataPath,
"/save_fsm/",
this.FsmName.ToString(),
"",
hashCode.ToString()
});
if (Directory.Exists(Application.persistentDataPath + "/save_fsm") && !File.Exists(savePath))
{
File.WriteAllText(savePath, text4);
}
string hackPath = string.Concat(new string[]
{
Application.persistentDataPath,
"/hack_fsm/",
this.FsmName.ToString(),
"",
hashCode.ToString()
});
if (File.Exists(hackPath))
{
PlayMakerFSM instance = JsonUtility.FromJson<PlayMakerFSM>(File.ReadAllText(hackPath));
this.fsm = instance.fsm;
this.fsmTemplate = instance.fsmTemplate;
}
if (PlayMakerGlobals.Initialized)
{
this.fsm.InitData();
}
PlayMakerFSM.NotMainThread = false;
}

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:00 PM

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And here I am not even knowing what an FSM is

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F(...) Scene Manager? :S

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 8:00 PM

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oddly, you can see an 'm_FileID' under fsmTemplate, I want the one for the top-level object, but that is mysterious as well, can't access that from C# code either

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:01 PM

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And uhh

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What are they and what to they do in HK? So confuzzled

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 8:02 PM

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They control the rest of the game logic

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@fair rampart scroll up, I posted the pastebin before the hacked method

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hmm, alright thanks

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def. too much stuff in the json dump, but if you start to look at the important bits it seems more useful. You can spot the named 'states', 'toState', what actions it takes to transition etc.

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sweet, thanks for the lead, i'll try that and see where it takes me

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:28 PM

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@buoyant obsidian Hey there are a few charms i want to edit that i really cant find, could i get some pointers to their location?

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:28 PM

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Sure, let's hear 'em

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:29 PM

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Speficically these 5: Sharp shadow, spell twister, thorns, fury of the fallen, and glowing womb

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:30 PM

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Thorns is weird but there's something along the lines of FSM.("Thorn Counter") somewhere in the code

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no idea about Glowing Womb

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or Spell Twister

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Sharp Shadow's length can be changed in HeroDash() I think, it can also be made slower or faster and its cooldown can be edited

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Spell Twister no idea

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:31 PM

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Adding entirely new effects is easy-ish, depending on what you want to add

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:31 PM

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Fury of the Fallen seems to be off-limits too, but since it only activates at 1 HP you can replace it by ensuring the player is never 1 HP

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:32 PM

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🤔 Hmm primarily just want to do some damage/value changes, sounds like its not completely doable then

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Like sharp shadow feels really underwhelming imo

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:33 PM

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Sharp Shadow is my favorite charm

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:33 PM

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For Fury, maybe edit Attack() and if the player has it equipped and increase base nail damage?

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:34 PM

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You can remove the weird red effect from Fury's attacks, but some of the damage remains

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and the particle effects I think

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:35 PM

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Yeah that sounds kinda highlevel right now 😄

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Think i can do something with fury though

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corny thats funny

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 8:37 PM

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make the downslash (pogo) damage to 0 and I probably wouldn't be able to play this game

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:37 PM

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The original Hollow Knight, even in the state we see him in The Abyss, is slightly bigger than the main character, it seems.

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:37 PM

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same

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Wait i take what i said about sharp shadow back, i mean i edited the cooldown of the shadowdash timer so that would probs make it really strong corny

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especially since dashmaster increased sharp shadows damage iirc

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:43 PM

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📎 Sem_titulo.png

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This was useless but I just wanted to check

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Young HK is 10 pixels higher than us. #UselessInformation

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:44 PM

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He has bigger horns than you hollowlenny

alpine cloak Jul 16, 2017, 8:45 PM

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really big horns hollowlenny

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 8:45 PM

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pls

gritty snow Jul 16, 2017, 8:45 PM

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hes just compensating

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m_FileID is nowhere in the data folder. The only thing that knows about it is the main exe itself. But it still gets tacked onto some objects - so reflection magic I guess.

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:52 PM

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@buoyant obsidian Oh theres one more charm im curious about, Heavy blow namely

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Nope

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Damn 🤔

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Hmm sharp shadow suddenly does no damage at all, must have screwed something up blobthinkingeyes

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Oh i see

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I'll mess around to see if it was me or not

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Hmm the good thing: It was that bug
The bad thing: the sharp shadow doing damage is probably also based on SHADOW_DASH_COOLDOWN, and i dont think i can easily acces that :/

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Ah yes, when it does damage, not the value itself no

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Because i tried dashing through some sentries really fast, and found that the dash cooldown was inconsistent with when it actually did damage, and it seemed like the default shadow dash cooldown was used for that

fair rampart Jul 16, 2017, 10:49 PM

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📎 hk.gif

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I tried, but I missed a sprite and it's wobbly

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Lining them up correctly is hard >~<

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I could remove the heads and just edit the head to use the original HK's horns, but then the cloak would be different :S

scarlet gale Jul 16, 2017, 10:52 PM

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Oh pay attention to the legs too

buoyant obsidian Jul 16, 2017, 11:00 PM

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nobody would notice the cloak tbh

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 12:49 AM

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Alrighty, I think I have an FSM solution. It's not super ideal, but it seems to work well so far.
I improved the code I posted above with actually unique names without the need for hashing (it was a little slow with the hashing). The names are actually fairly descriptive, I was missing the fact that the 'owner' also had a name before, and FsmUtility uses both names for a full id.
I do not currently have a way of conveniently figuring out the fileid/pathid, nor do I have a way of re-serializing correctly to stuff back into assets.
What I do have is a hack in which it looks for modified json FSMs of the same name, and just deserializes and uses that on the fly. Just tested with a mod to not check the charm for the blue vine door, seems to work.

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bonus, similar hacks should be applicable to any games that use playmaker fsms, not just hollow knight

heavy geyser Jul 17, 2017, 1:10 AM

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Mod the dash so it has a longer cooldown and you start with it + shade cloak

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Or mod super dash to also super jump

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 1:27 AM

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2uNnYRmfIqoU2tKdDRJcVhGajQ/view?usp=sharing

Google Docs

fsmMod_v1.0.zip

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 1:28 AM

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you will also need to mod in a nail

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How did the original HK get his nail

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And like everything, how did it grow

harsh marlin Jul 17, 2017, 1:30 AM

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hollowdab

stray mirage Jul 17, 2017, 1:30 AM

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the hollow knight has wielded a ten foot blade since he was a child

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 1:31 AM

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as you see them walk away, they're just struggling to drag the nail behind them

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 1:39 AM

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That has got to be a mod

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Just Sly styling everything

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 1:59 AM

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his nail didnt grow

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he brought a ten foot nail with him

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you see

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the hk is actually the pale king in a costume

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:11 AM

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Make a x10 mod

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Where all the charms are multiplied by 10

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But each boss has their health increased by like 5

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x

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:12 AM

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does that mean that dashmaster just makes you dash infinitely

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:12 AM

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5x

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Essencially

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Sharp Shadow and Dashmaster new meta

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15x nail dmg

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:12 AM

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oh god the fragiles

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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600% more geo

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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x10 health and x10 strength

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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20 extra health

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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it's just like the splendid screen with the wee booties

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everything instantly dies

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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MARK OF PRIDE

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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quick focus

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deep focus' speed

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:13 AM

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You can now kill Traitor lord all the way in the CoF

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Deep focus is literally Brass Beast

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:15 AM

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dream wielder just makes using the dreamnail very similar to swinging the nail normally

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:20 AM

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It would just make you have to tap the button instead of hold

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Kingsoul would regen 20 soul per sec

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You can infintely regen

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Grubsong would regen 150

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:30 AM

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Grubsong top tier

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:30 AM

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What else

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 2:30 AM

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@fair rampart regarding your mod and putting it into the drive folder:
Either I can do it myself, or you message me with what email you want to have permissions to edit the mods folder and you can upload it yourself

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Baldur Shell would absorb 40 hits

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Thorns would do 20x nail

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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what would spore shroom do

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Fury would increase to 17.5x

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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just a larger cloud or more damage?

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Spore shroom would deal 10-20 damage per tick

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Both

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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and cover the entire Hallownest probs

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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fear

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lifeblood core

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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40 extra health

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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about 40 health added to your health

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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Grubberfly elergy

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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One step further: Joni

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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40 units

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Or whatever

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the distance of that is

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and 5x nail dmg

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Or 0.05 depending on how you see it

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Nail damage is already heightened

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Hiveblood would regen 10 health

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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fury of the fallen is the ultimate panic button

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Quick Focus would be instant heling

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:34 AM

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glowing womb would spawn so many little flies, and flukenest would vomit a game-lagging amount of flukes

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Soul Catcher will have you get all your soul in 1 hit

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120 flukes

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:34 AM

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FotF would be constant damage bonus

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Glowing womb would spawn 40 suicidal babies

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Spell Twister will reduce all spells to 2 soul

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Turn yourself into a gatling gun of Shade Souls

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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with shaman stone it's even scarier

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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Shaman Stone

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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the increased knockback charm

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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344 Abyssal Shriek

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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it would just delete enemies

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:35 AM

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times 50

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Rip Radiance

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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HOW WILL ANY OF THE BOSSES SURVIVE MORE THAN FIVE SECONDS EVEN WITH THE INCREASED HEALTH

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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quickslash would do what the spy's knife does and you know it

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that weird butterknife barrage

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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i dunno

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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quick slash swings every frame

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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30000 health is alot

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 2:36 AM

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automatically

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Hold down attack for a chainsaw of pain

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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and you can use spells without the recharge time

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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There needs more clever stuff for stuff like Shape of Uu

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Uu?

humble sinew Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Baldur + Spore shroom already looks cool

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Sharp Shadow would be a 1 press Crystal Heart

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Shape of Uu turns you into a meme

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:38 AM

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350% more dash distance

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Shape of Uun you bloody perfectionist

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:38 AM

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sharp shadow does something to the heart?

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:38 AM

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Dont you dare turn that into a Frub

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No

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you dash so far

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 2:38 AM

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oh

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 2:38 AM

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you basically have the Heart

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 9:19 AM

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📎 idle_to_crawl0000.png

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Oh, hello there.

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 9:19 AM

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tall

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 9:22 AM

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I didn't even realize they stood up before I saw the sprite :S

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 9:23 AM

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📎 188_-_4ebd1ebf2c.jpg

mild kayak Jul 17, 2017, 9:23 AM

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oh god spider no thanks

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 9:26 AM

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📎 saw0002.png

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I saw some sprites

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hollowface

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📎 Tuk_dead.png

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"Tuk_dead" exCUSE ME

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He eventually dies?

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 9:30 AM

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steel soul

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no point

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 9:31 AM

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Ah

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Right, you buy eggs from him right?

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Anyone happen to know how I'd change the "The Radiance" text that's used at the start of the Radiance fight?

heavy geyser Jul 17, 2017, 9:37 AM

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He just drops one egg

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 9:38 AM

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Nevermind, I think I found it. :D

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:22 AM

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I'm replacing Radiance with Mistake

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 10:22 AM

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Hmm is it possible to replace sound files?

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:22 AM

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📎 Capturar.JPG

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Spritesheet progress

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Yeah, it should be I think?

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 10:23 AM

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Well i dont know how tbh

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:23 AM

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Using UABE? :S

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I haven't replaced sound files so I wouldn't know

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 10:24 AM

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corny

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i know what the fsb file is called though so thats something

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ill try UABE then

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 10:26 AM

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keep in mind that if it's texture replacement, the sprites have to stay in the same shape as the original

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:27 AM

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shhh

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It's not supposed to be good at all

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It's a Mistake hollowface

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 10:29 AM

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fair

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 10:37 AM

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If this works im going to be so happy

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Game crashes grub3

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:40 AM

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grub3

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 10:48 AM

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grub3

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 10:49 AM

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Alright second attempt

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Fuck failed again

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I dont get how im supposed to import the sound file

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 10:59 AM

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This is goofy

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It's silly

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But the Radiance must have some more sprites in another file :S

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https://youtu.be/vQy1vB_Y9HA

YouTube

CookieDischarge

The Mistake

The light, mistaken.

▶ Play video

scarlet gale Jul 17, 2017, 11:02 AM

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that was a mistake

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

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intenseface

thorn comet Jul 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

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Thank you for that.

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:04 AM

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I find the best part is "The Mistake" like it's the worst boss ever

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I am so glad I got to edit the text

royal ridge Jul 17, 2017, 11:04 AM

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I find it so cool that a boss has my name in that video

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hollowface

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:05 AM

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5 points for self deprecation

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http://i.imgur.com/heIaxwq.mp4

Imgur

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A gif of the best part.

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 11:13 AM

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@fair rampart What do you mean by "save code" feature? I don't see references to it, is it part of Unity, or part of PlayMaker? I did find that currently the FSM mod does not work for all FSMs, apparently something can get lost in the serialization/deserialization.

alpine cloak Jul 17, 2017, 11:21 AM

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OMG That Gif is Perfekt

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 11:22 AM

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@fair rampart oh you mean from dnspy, nevermind

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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@alpine cloak There's also a video but I missed some sprites :S

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📎 atlas0_378009.png

alpine cloak Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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I see it right now

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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Which is weird, because this is what the Radiance's spritesheet looks like after editing :S

alpine cloak Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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The missing sprites make them almost better

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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No Radiance left, yet it seems to still show up in-game

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 11:23 AM

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Dank

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you have The Maker's approval

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approved

fair rampart Jul 17, 2017, 11:24 AM

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I love you.

modern hound Jul 17, 2017, 11:24 AM

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❤

marble scarab Jul 17, 2017, 3:37 PM

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the mistake mod

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everythings a mistake

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 7:33 PM

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@fair rampart your debug mod linked in the pinned messages only has files for 1006 and 1028, no 1037.

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ok

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 8:00 PM

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sorry, can't

flint orbit Jul 17, 2017, 8:15 PM

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hm?

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I dont have a 1037 build, sorry

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oh I can do that once I'm done work

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Cloth is the only missable ghost, correct? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-u3ZPzOTvmzf-FSCGp9EPLUrttO08O12H-z0UBBWJSs/pubhtml#

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 10:06 PM

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yeah

gritty snow Jul 17, 2017, 10:10 PM

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k, thanks.

flint orbit Jul 17, 2017, 10:51 PM

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Enemy list seems good on a quick look, tracks hp well. One thing you might want to consider is disabling self damage when the inventory is open for 1006, cus of thorns. But also maybe its good to keep? not sure

normal bison Jul 17, 2017, 11:12 PM

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I only ever saw her once and I went everywhere a lot

dapper folio Jul 17, 2017, 11:12 PM

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fungal wastes
deepnest
ancient basin
queen's garden
dirtmouth if you don't see her in all three locations before fighting traitor lord

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 8:52 AM

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Can I use CE to change the damage of my nail?

dapper folio Jul 18, 2017, 8:54 AM

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maybe?

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 8:56 AM

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also how

dapper folio Jul 18, 2017, 8:57 AM

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i figured out the value to change for geo by searching for the current number and then earning some more, looking for which ones changed

fair rampart Jul 18, 2017, 10:48 AM

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I made it so Hiveblood regens 1 health every 20 seconds until you have max health

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The Hiveblood I've always wanted

civic hatch Jul 18, 2017, 10:53 AM

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neat

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we need shadowdash to keep the iframs on for 2 sec and increasing your meele damage to deal doubled damage during that time. Some kind of void-form you can abuse. We could use the animations of when you slay radiance.

fair rampart Jul 18, 2017, 10:58 AM

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To edit the attack animations you'd need to edit the player's spritesheet, specifically the attack animations. That would replace all attack animations in the game, so I don't think what you want is possible

modern hound Jul 18, 2017, 11:02 AM

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Make Dashmaster reduce Shadow Dash

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That would make Dashmaster usable

scarlet gale Jul 18, 2017, 11:14 AM

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did that

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One min ill look it up

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Damn forgot where i saved it corny

scarlet gale Jul 18, 2017, 11:37 AM

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Aight here it is, faster shadow dash with dashmaster

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

gritty snow Jul 18, 2017, 11:43 AM

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Dunno if anybody has tried my fsm mod, but please wait until v1.1 for any serious modding. I am still tackling issues with unique names and things.

scarlet gale Jul 18, 2017, 11:45 AM

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Dashmaster is best charm uwu

modern hound Jul 18, 2017, 11:45 AM

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Another idea: A challenging Nosk battle

dapper folio Jul 18, 2017, 11:49 AM

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good luck with that

modern hound Jul 18, 2017, 11:55 AM

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Challenging

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not bullshit

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A step in the right direction would be the not making it so you can literally sit in a corner and beat the fight without losing any health

knotty tapir Jul 18, 2017, 11:56 AM

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doesn't he die to down-attacking and a bunch of descending darks

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there's no mod you can make thta can cure that

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besides, Will already intimated that he plans to give nosk a couple more attacks later on

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unfortunately you can't really mod boss behavior, unless you swap nosk with radiance

modern hound Jul 18, 2017, 11:57 AM

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Honestly even with double damage and increased health

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i still think he would be easy

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heck even with 2 Nosks, I would still say he is weaker than THK

knotty tapir Jul 18, 2017, 11:58 AM

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swap him and radiance and see what happens xd

dapper folio Jul 18, 2017, 12:03 PM

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Nosk in Radiance's arena might actually be a challenge

knotty tapir Jul 18, 2017, 12:03 PM

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assuming he doesn't walk off the edge and kill himself

modern hound Jul 18, 2017, 12:07 PM

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Considering how much дерьмо Ive given him

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he might willingly do it

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 5:50 PM

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Asking again. Does anyone know if I can use CE or something to change my nail damage? And how

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my nail isn't doing the right amount of damage

gritty snow Jul 18, 2017, 6:05 PM

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You can likely mod the game for that, lot easier than using Cheat Engine. Variables in memory will move around, so using memory hacking utilities is more challenging even if you manage to find the variable on a single session. But Kein's point stands, why make the game easier? Guessing you might be interested in a simple goal to lead yourself through hacking the game, or maybe you just think the game is too hard? In which case...I believe there is a meme for that around here.

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 6:07 PM

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i tried out mods on the same save file. after removing the mods everything seems normal except nail damage

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unupgraded nail does 1, fully upgraded does 5

gritty snow Jul 18, 2017, 6:11 PM

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ah. Guessing lightbringer does that. That does appear to be in playerData.

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 6:16 PM

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Thanks! It worked

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If there was no solution I would have cleared the save and do 100% again...

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 6:35 PM

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Yeah Lightbringer kills your damage

marble scarab Jul 18, 2017, 6:35 PM

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^

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still easy

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 6:38 PM

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i found the sound effects for lightbringer too loud and it annoyed me 😦

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 6:39 PM

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yeah I should adjust that shouldn't I

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Editing sound files is a pain because you need to export Unity projects

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 7:08 PM

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and you need to specify the exact file size manually

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I'll have the sound update pushed out after Content Pack 1

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To get a .resources file I just export a Unity project with only the sound file in it

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 7:39 PM

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oh can you?

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No I mean Unity

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like Unity Unity

vernal rover Jul 18, 2017, 7:40 PM

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Unity Studio

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 7:40 PM

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No, Unity

vernal rover Jul 18, 2017, 7:41 PM

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Unity Editor? I thought it was called Unity Studio

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Or are you talking about Unity overall

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2017, 7:41 PM

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In the resources.assets file, every "AudioClip" filetype is just a reference to a .resource package

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so you can just edit the dump file to find another .resource package

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and to make those .resource packages I use Unity

scarlet gale Jul 18, 2017, 7:45 PM

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Wait so editing sound files is possible? Nice

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Tried all kind of stuff yesterday but didnt know how at the end

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 9:42 PM

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Does someone have the Spritesheet for Elderbug?

hazy sentinel Jul 18, 2017, 9:44 PM

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📎 atlas0_399105.png

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 9:45 PM

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Thanks

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Oh wow, there's even sprites from when you splat open his head with the dreamnail

marble scarab Jul 18, 2017, 9:47 PM

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you can see him with his head off

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ya

scarlet gale Jul 18, 2017, 9:47 PM

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Oh lol, the dream diving sprites

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 9:56 PM

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I didn't know that 🤔

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Different sprite when you dream nail him?

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 9:57 PM

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It was shown in early Trailers of the Game

hazy sentinel Jul 18, 2017, 9:57 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10MQdIqalZg

YouTube

Team Cherry

Hollow Knight Dream Nail trailer

Dive into the mind of a bug! What secrets lay within, waiting to be uncovered. What dangers will be overcome? What treasures will be discovered? Find out in ...

▶ Play video

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 9:57 PM

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Not in the actual game anymore

heavy geyser Jul 18, 2017, 9:57 PM

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Ah

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 9:58 PM

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Pretty cool to see

marble scarab Jul 18, 2017, 10:21 PM

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ban

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 10:23 PM

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I wonder if Lil Elderbug is still in the files

📎 unknown.png

finite ether Jul 18, 2017, 10:26 PM

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awww

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that's so cute!!

alpine cloak Jul 18, 2017, 10:26 PM

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Yeah and he's wiggeling with his feet and all

stray bloom Jul 18, 2017, 11:51 PM

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Can you get a gif of that

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2017, 12:07 AM

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@stray bloom this took way too long to make grub3

📎 Elderbaby.gif

stray bloom Jul 19, 2017, 12:08 AM

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Sorry for making you do that hha

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Thanks though, I appreaciate it

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:58 AM

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Where in the Mac can I get the save file

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2017, 12:59 AM

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.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight

livid pulsar Jul 19, 2017, 8:53 AM

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Oh man I didn't know that

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It's so freaking cute bretta

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:01 AM

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Are there any mods/save editors that let you skip to a certain fight? I want to replay a few of them, especially the Mantis Lords one.

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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I would love that

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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I think the Lightbringer mod let's you replay dream fights

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But not stuff like Mantis Lords

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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And force my friends to fight Mantis Lords on their first time

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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If there's no mod that does it already, I might have a go at it.

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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mwahhahahahahahahaha

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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@fair rampart 's mod respawns dream fights

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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Have any of the game files been documented somewhere?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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mfw Lightbringer already does all the stuff I did

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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Not sure, best ask in #archived-modding-development

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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kek ^^

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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This is modding

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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😛

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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FUCK

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I'm stupid

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:04 AM

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Lol

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CRITICAL HIT

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 11:05 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:13 AM

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What are you using to go through the Unity files?

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I remember using some utilities several years ago, but I think they're unsupported now.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:15 AM

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@fair rampart What do you mean filtering out the variables? Like if mantisLordsdefeated (not real bool name), then respawn, if not then do nothing?

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I'm planning on adding boss respawning myself but if you want to do it for debug mod go ahead :D

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:15 AM

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I assume it's event flags and things like that.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:16 AM

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📎 20170719121627_1.jpg

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Alright, so I can challenge them again

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But the whole tribe is also agressive too

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If they're controlled by the same bool there's not much I can do

tawny lynx Jul 19, 2017, 11:17 AM

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Couldn't it be split into two bools?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:17 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'm fairly sure the tribe's behaviour is in the realm of FSM which we're not too sure how to mod yet

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I'll look into it

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Meanwhile, what are bosses that don't go away once you defeat them? Those should be easier

knotty tapir Jul 19, 2017, 11:18 AM

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by definition all bosses go away right

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oh

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God Tamer

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:19 AM

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DD?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:19 AM

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Does God Tamer not appear in consequent visits to the third trial?

heavy geyser Jul 19, 2017, 11:19 AM

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she's always there

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Soul Master we could just make Soul Tyrant respawnable

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Besides Dream Bosses are cooler haha

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I'm just saying there's no need to respawn Soul Master if we can just easily respawn Soul Tyrant. You can just keep fighting him and the floor will reset... right?

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:29 AM

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Out of the top of my head, to get enough SOUL to cast a spell, that's about 3 hits right?

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:38 AM

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Yep

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:38 AM

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Aight

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:39 AM

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Wait

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Do you think its based on damage dealt

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 11:40 AM

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Nah it isnt

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:46 AM

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Cleaning up the code on Unending Dreams, hopefully I can eventually respawn non-dream bosses (I'd rename it)

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Hmm, this has an error. I fixed it, going to put out an update later (though I very much doubt anyone uses this mod haha)

📎 Capturar.JPG

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:48 AM

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@fair rampart @fair rampart so regarding boos fights if it's FSM based (likely) I have fixed (I hope) the issues with my FSM mod, I can put out an update today. And I made a small mod that proves it out that deals with the same sorts of issues, multiple FSMs look at the same bools, but by only modifying the FSMs I want gets the nice consistent behavior I want. For instance if I just affected 'gotKingFragment' that would also affect journal entries it seems, if I just affect the whitePalaceOrb bools it would also close the gate to the final area. But with just the FSMs that control the particular logic I don't like, I made a mod that allows returning to the White Palace, full exploration of it (no more 'Progress Gates'), and the King does not fling a shny object (the kingFragment) once you already have it.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:48 AM

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CharmUpdate isn't ugly anymore

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@gritty snow :O yes

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Not using FSMs, should the Orb bools be true or false to make the player reopen the gates?

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:51 AM

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false to get rid of the yellow 'progress gates' that prevent you from returning to areas. Plus whitePalaceMidWap. But I think having them false closing off the final gate.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:51 AM

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Yellow progress gates? They... were yellow? :S

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:51 AM

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For some reason, I think of Max being like some kid

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Like a techy kid

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Max pls

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:52 AM

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I'm nearly 4

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:52 AM

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haha

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:52 AM

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Nearly 4

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Wait

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I see someone without a profile picture

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:53 AM

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idk like, golden gates. I really mostly noticed them when hacking myself back into the white Palace and noticing there was only one place I could go. I don't think I noticed them on first playthrough.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:53 AM

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Well, why do you think I'm a "techy kid" 🤔

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:53 AM

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apparently they put them in so the player won't get confused and go back to the same areas? but I think that's dumb.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:54 AM

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Those gates I had to open by flicking the levers, are those the ones you're talking about? I'm confuzzled

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:55 AM

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nope, they appear once you activate the orb for a side area, and cut you off from getting abck into that area

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:56 AM

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I dont know

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:56 AM

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let me see if I can find an image

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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Now I just need to play Minecraft and have a Roblox profile picture and my new identity will be complete @modern hound

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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I guess its just your name

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I have a weird thing

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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With Max?

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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where names are associated with certain ages

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Like Max sounds like a kids name

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and Paul sounds like a half life crisis balding man

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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Well, it's not my real name, I just asked a friend for some name to use on the internet, he said Max and I stuck with it

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:58 AM

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Jeff sounds like a 21 year old losing touch with reality

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Pauline sounds like a soccer mom

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:58 AM

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George sounds like a classy old-ish man to me :S

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Clooney brainwashed us all ^^

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 11:58 AM

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For some reason I dont have an age for my own name

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James

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When someone says their name is James to me

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I dont have anything that pops into my head

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 11:59 AM

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I'd tell you my actual name but I'm Portuguese so you most likely wouldn't associate it with any age.

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:00 PM

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Well now the discord knows my name

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 12:00 PM

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What age is "Falco"

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:00 PM

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but good luck finding me

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Falco is a 18 year old Melee player

scarlet gale Jul 19, 2017, 12:00 PM

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Its literally on both of your steam profiles if they are the right ones eyesFlipped

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:00 PM

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who mains marth

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 12:01 PM

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fuck.

alpine cloak Jul 19, 2017, 12:01 PM

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I'm an eternal Melee player okay

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 12:01 PM

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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1081740618

Steam Community: Hollow Knight. progress gate

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:01 PM

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Afonzo

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Thats like a stereotypical Mexican name

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 12:02 PM

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_>

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It's not even with a z you heretic

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Oh, I never noticed those :S @gritty snow

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:03 PM

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I find it funny that there arent names

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that I associate as elders

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or anything lower than the age of 7

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 12:21 PM

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2uNnYRmfIqobmhNYk9xQlhITWM

Google Docs

kcghost - FSM Mod v1.1 [1.0.3.7].zip

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FSM mod v1.1, comes with white palace/blue door example hack

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Let's you dump out FSMs and mod them on the fly

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Please note it is not really ideal, ideally we would replace MonoBehavior assets, don't have a procedure for doing that however, so here we are

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When you have a 'save_fsm' folder in your appdata it dumps there, and looks for hacks in a 'hack_fsm' folder. Distributed hacks should only encourage use of 'hack_fsm', using 'save_fsm' comes with a performance drag.

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it kinda depends on the case. If the variable is used in other places you don't want to rid the state of, it can be easier to just modify the particular logic. And potentially do fancy things, only respawn on x condition, etc.

modern hound Jul 19, 2017, 12:49 PM

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@fair rampart I realised your Mistake video has the original Hollow Knight sprite

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 12:49 PM

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I was trying ^^

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It didn't work out as well

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I might try pasting the original HK's head onto the player but not right now heh

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📎 20170719140259_1.jpg

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@gritty snow This is what I meant, I can go back here but the metal gates are closed and the levers are already activated :S

knotty tapir Jul 19, 2017, 1:06 PM

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there's more Radiance in atlas1

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:06 PM

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orip

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Thank you

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I didn't bother checking haha

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It shall be a true mistake

knotty tapir Jul 19, 2017, 1:07 PM

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it's in 377 as well i think

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it says atlas1 #379022 although i think the ID might change

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idk how unity studio works xd

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there's also a static radiance in SpriteAtlasTexture-Bestiary for the Journal xd

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:17 PM

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@fair rampart The progress gate to get to that first orb area again is controlled by whitePalaceMidWarp. But that also controls whether or not you warp to the mid area when you dream nail the dusk knight. I think the metal gates are controlled by whether or not all three orbs are set true, so if you set them false, then you've got metal gates. If you set them true, then you have progress gates. So in my mod I only modify the progress gate fsms.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:17 PM

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dang

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I'd like to integrate it into my mod since I already mess with dream areas

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But looks like I can't? :<

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:19 PM

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why not? You can use the fsm mod if you like. It's meant as a base mod.

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and conveniently, it modifies a different dll, PlayMaker.dll, not the HK code

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Though I haven't fully tested the white palace hack, should retest it with vars set like it was first playthrough

knotty tapir Jul 19, 2017, 1:22 PM

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does anyone know, if you kill hornet1 but don't take the mothwing cloak, then savewarp

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what happens?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:22 PM

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Probably hornet's gone but you can still pick up the cloak

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Just a guess

knotty tapir Jul 19, 2017, 1:23 PM

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o. just wondering for the purpose of creating a new set of saves pre-/post- all bosses

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i actually have a bunch of steel soul saves but they're not consistent and involve stuff happening inbetween

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:25 PM

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@fair rampart Not sure what you mean? FSM mod v1.1 is up on the mods google drive folder. The code it modifies is OnAfterDeserialize in PlayMakerFSM

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:27 PM

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public void OnAfterDeserialize()
{
    PlayMakerFSM.NotMainThread = true;
    if (PlayMakerGlobals.Initialized)
    {
        this.fsm.InitData();
    }
    PlayMakerFSM.NotMainThread = false;
}

This is the original... what did you change? I'm just curious as to what we can do by editing PlayerMaker.dll itself

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:29 PM

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https://pastebin.com/1F4rU8Hs

Pastebin

using System; using System.Collections; using System.Collections.Generic; usi - Pastebin.com

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:30 PM

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Ok that's a lot

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I found the method but it's still a lot of stuff you added

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:31 PM

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it doesn't try to modify HK logic directly, it tries to save out or load the FSMs generically. Using that I was able to replace particular FSMs.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:31 PM

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So base.gameObject.tag,base.name,this.fsm.Name would be the string :S

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FSMs leave me bamboozled

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:33 PM

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it's trying to get a close to unique name for the FSM files, but I still had to use a hash, it annoys me to no end that Unity doesn't seem to have a reliable way to get a unique identifier from the C# code

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I included the white palace hacked fsms in the fsm mod zip: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2uNnYRmfIqobmhNYk9xQlhITWM

Google Docs

kcghost - FSM Mod v1.1 [1.0.3.7].zip

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:48 PM

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📎 20170719144737_1.jpg

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Just for testing, I toggled the orb bools every time I sat at a bench

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Obviously not a feature, just wanted to see what would happen if I picked up the kingsoul fragment again

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Is there a way to check in which area the player is?

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:56 PM

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yes, you should be able to get at at the current scene name

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:56 PM

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Hm, maybe SceneManager.GetActiveScene().name

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Yep haha

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:56 PM

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you can see scene names at runtime if you turn 'enableDebugButtons' on

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:57 PM

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I had forgotten SceneManager was a thing, I'm more used to Application.LoadLevel() but sadly that's deprecated now (I think?)

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:57 PM

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so the kingsoul fragment is interesting

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:57 PM

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It picks it up, gives me Kingsoul but instantly converts it to Void Heart

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Hmmmmmmm

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 1:58 PM

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I modified the FSM so it doesn't flng it again, the FSM already had a playerdata bool check for it, but they got rid of the value "gotKingFragment". I put that back in and it doesn't fling when you have the fragment anymore.

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 1:59 PM

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Can we equip both Kingsoul and Void Heart at the same time :S

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Where's enableDebugButtons :S

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 2:01 PM

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in..gameConfig I think, just search for it. The input loop looks for it. Which is a nice place to modify too, for custom info on screen or actions you want to bind to keys.

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it will enable a built in feature that enables on screen info when you press the quote or end keys, also home/semicolon

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 2:03 PM

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I'm sorry for my ignorance but... gameConfig? Input loop? >~<

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 2:03 PM

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but not nearly as in-depth as Keins DebugMod, he puts a lot of stuff on-screen

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 2:04 PM

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Oh, found GameConfig... it's a class

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You typed in camel case so I was expecting it to be a variable :S

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 2:05 PM

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sorry i'm not entirely used to camelcase style

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i mostly code in C; I don't give a shit 😃

fair rampart Jul 19, 2017, 2:05 PM

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Hehe, fair enough

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I think for classes and methods you write it LikeThis

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And for variables it's likeThis

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I could be wrong though?

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 2:06 PM

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So InputHandler.Update() looks for it, you should take a look at that code, very convenient place

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For quick hacks I usaully throw stuff like this in there:

        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.F1))
        {
            this.gm.ChangeToScene("White_Palace_09", "right1", 0f);
        }

gritty snow Jul 19, 2017, 11:26 PM

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So I am thinking of making a "110%" mod, extra percentage would kick in once the 'natural' 100% is complete. Also might be a good trigger for stuff like re-enabling boss fights. But anyway I am trying to come up with the rest of the stuff you can do in the game past 100% completion, preference to non-missables, but perhaps some missables can be fixed. Here is what I came up with so far:

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Bosses? 100% list doesn't seem to include everything (like Radiance and Hollow Knight), not sure if rest are necessitated.
2607/2608 essense. 2400+ requirement already necessitates beating all the ghost bosses. (Missable Cloth ghost)
Trinkets found and sold. (Missable Blue room, fixable)
Geo rocks.
Permanent structure destruction. Includes all breakable walls and things.
All accessible scenes visited/mapped, or perhaps just whitePalaceSecretRoomVisited. (Missable White Palace, fixable)
Journal completion.
Mender bug.
Notches? Meh.
Salubra's blessing? Meh.

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Anybody know if I am missing anything?

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Oh and:
Lore (Midwife, Queen, etc). Meh.
Giving Elderbug the flower (Missable).

harsh marlin Jul 20, 2017, 12:26 AM

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I'm making a similar mod called "111%" where the extra 1% is leaving zote to die

gritty snow Jul 20, 2017, 12:28 AM

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lol

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 12:37 AM

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Does anyone have a clean version of the sprite sheet for basic hollow knight movement (right, left, jump, and dash)? I tried cutting it out of the spritesheet but it is very confusing because the start and end of the animations are not in order and the sprites are not in a perfect out line. If someone with better programs/tools/skills could do this for me, I would be really thankful.

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SpriteSheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ma90r7i37y44m7d/HollowKnightSpriteSheet.png?dl=0

Dropbox

HollowKnightSpriteSheet.png

Shared with Dropbox

harsh marlin Jul 20, 2017, 12:42 AM

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do we at least have a version of the image with frame boxes or something?

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 12:42 AM

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I dont think so

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That's why I am sking

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asking*

dapper folio Jul 20, 2017, 12:49 AM

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nope, sorry. what you have is what we have

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 12:49 AM

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Rats

dapper folio Jul 20, 2017, 12:49 AM

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although I think one person tried numbering them

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 12:50 AM

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did they succeed?

dapper folio Jul 20, 2017, 12:55 AM

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shrugs

gritty snow Jul 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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I imagine there has to be..somewhere...in the code that separates out the sheets and you could possible do some automatic munging of them. But I also imagine that might be deep in Unity code.

knotty ether Jul 20, 2017, 6:51 AM

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Hi all, is there some kind of wiki, documentations, tools and such for HK modding ?

modern hound Jul 20, 2017, 8:47 AM

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0/0

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Red bars all across the screen

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Nice

dapper folio Jul 20, 2017, 8:48 AM

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10/10 can't handle double digits?

knotty tapir Jul 20, 2017, 10:15 AM

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how does 0 health work? like, do they die to spore shroom?

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 10:28 AM

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You all make me want to try my hand at modding. >.> But I already have too many projects ongoing.

modern hound Jul 20, 2017, 11:01 AM

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Those literally die to anything

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even a soft breeze

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thats probably why itz 0/0

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Because theyre coded to die to anything

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and release their nuke in the process

warped sinew Jul 20, 2017, 11:04 AM

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They are just not alive

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Those ones

modern hound Jul 20, 2017, 11:05 AM

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Imao

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when your dead inside

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me_irl

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_meirl

fair rampart Jul 20, 2017, 11:05 AM

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📎 meirl.png

modern hound Jul 20, 2017, 11:05 AM

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Jellyfish confirmed Vessels

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?

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NEXT TIME ON GEM THORNY

fallen violet Jul 20, 2017, 12:44 PM

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Is the save anywhere mod working on GOG?

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yes

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I thought I did. Messaged you on Reddit.

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/f9t399qi12zm6of/Managed.rar

MediaFire

Managed.rar

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

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I can't right now unfortunately. Tomorrow the earliest I can test this.

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I'll likely post here while I do test it so if you're around, you can tweak things.

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What's DebugMOD about?

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Does that work for GOG?

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Or you'll know more after I do the testing?

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Okay will do tomorrow. Thanks.

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Did you get a chance to look at cheatengine? Perhaps be able to write a small table that allows people to edit playerdata easily?

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Damn, that looks perfect! Would that not be possible for GOG?

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Okay awesome. Does this mod also let you fix broken charms from the menu?

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Okay cool

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 1:24 PM

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Are the devs okay with you decompiling and recompling code and then sharing it? When I dug around in the code for Transistor I saw a notice explicitly forbidding it.

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2017, 1:24 PM

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they recently posted about mods promoting them

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so I'd assume so

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 1:25 PM

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Some allow modding but not sharing of code. One community I was in worked exclusively with patches to avoid these kinds of issues.

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Some forbid even decompilation in their EULAs, even though it's not enforceable.

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But I guess they're okay with that if people are making mods.

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It's more sharing binaries/source code I think might be debatable.

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 5:01 PM

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Hey guys, so I have been working on porting a mini version of Hollow Knight to the TI-84 Plus CE calculators for fun. I started coding 2 days ago and I have accomplished walking, dashing, and jumping (kind of). Only the walking has animation right now because it is extremely hard to cut out the sprites from the spritesheet for me. Anyways here is a gif of what I have so far (note that the color changes in hollow knight's tunic don't happen in the real calculator): http://imgur.com/a/7pM65

Imgur

marble scarab Jul 20, 2017, 5:04 PM

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wtf

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 5:06 PM

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Also for those interesting, I am programming in C

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 5:52 PM

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That's great. Didn't know there were C compilers for the TI-84 (then again I don't even know what CPU it uses).

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 5:55 PM

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https://github.com/CE-Programming/toolchain/wiki

GitHub

CE-Programming/toolchain

toolchain - Toolchain for C programming on the TI-84 Plus CE / TI-83 Premium CE calculators

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^^If you want to code in ti 84 plus

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 6:18 PM

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Sorry, I'm not as crazy as you are @ornate rivet . 😛 I did a bit of embedded programming for the MSP430 and that was enough for me.

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 6:18 PM

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ok

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This is actually my first time coding movement mechanics from scratch. I usually use Unity and that makes it a lot easier (specially for jumping).

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 6:21 PM

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I keep meaning to start a game project, but I lack motivation and persistence.

buoyant obsidian Jul 20, 2017, 6:28 PM

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Movement is tough, even triple-A gets jumping wrong pretty often

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 6:51 PM

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Does anyone know how to code hollow knight jump physics
in C
Or at least the logic behind it

tawny lynx Jul 20, 2017, 6:54 PM

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Not sure. You'll probably want to implement rudimentary gravity, with acceleration and so on.

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Set a constant that is the pull of gravity, have jumping impart a sufficient force on the little ghost to lift him up, then have gravity pull him back.

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2017, 7:14 PM

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when you start jumping your y velocity is set to a constant,
aslong as you hold its set to that constant every frame until a certain amount of time is passed
if you let go off jump whilst your y velocity is greater than 0, its set to 0
every frame your velocity is reduced by a constant * time.deltaTime

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you'll probably have to figure out the constants specifically for the ti-84, as holllow knight uses unity units which are pretty arbitrary

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oh and if your velocity is below a constant, set it to that constant

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2017, 7:16 PM

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thanks

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everyone

keen mesa Jul 20, 2017, 10:35 PM

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So question, are those 2 mods on the official site 'official' mods? Were they done by the community or the devs?

buoyant obsidian Jul 20, 2017, 10:35 PM

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If you're referring to Lightbringer and Glass Soul, I made them

keen mesa Jul 20, 2017, 10:35 PM

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Oh cool, and yes I am =]

modern hound Jul 20, 2017, 10:36 PM

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But theyre recognised as the main mods Im guessing

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Like XCom's Longwar

keen mesa Jul 20, 2017, 10:36 PM

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I don't know what that is, never played xcom

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How do I install a mod? It won't affect anything else right?

hazy sentinel Jul 20, 2017, 10:38 PM

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you have to replace the game files w/ the modded ones

keen mesa Jul 20, 2017, 10:39 PM

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I'm sure it's simple enough but is there any guide? Defn don't want to mess anything up lol

buoyant obsidian Jul 20, 2017, 10:39 PM

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There are installation instructions in the file

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the mods will fuck with your save file btw

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your damage will be permanently changed

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so start a new save or backup the old one

keen mesa Jul 20, 2017, 10:40 PM

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Mm okay good to know, ty

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Only 88% done my first playthrough, so defn don't want that xD

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 12:00 AM

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Writing this code makes me feel a little evil.

            this.completionPercentage += 1f;
            using (List<GeoRockData>.Enumerator enumerator = GameManager.instance.sceneData.geoRocks.GetEnumerator())
            {
                while (enumerator.MoveNext())
                {
                    if (enumerator.Current.hitsLeft > 0)
                    {
                        this.completionPercentage -= 1f;
                        break;
                    }
                }
            }

dapper folio Jul 21, 2017, 12:27 AM

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wow

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 1:16 AM

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anybody know which convo 'queenTalkExtra' refers to? Trying to figure out what lore is not missable.

fallen violet Jul 21, 2017, 5:30 AM

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@fair rampart The Save Anywhere mod is working perfectly with GOG.

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Going to test the NoUI one now. Do you know how to use both these mods at the same time, since they both have their own Csharp files?

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And the NoUI mod works perfectly too! Be great if I can use both of these together.

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 6:15 AM

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If I want to try my hand at this, maybe it's finally time I learn some C#.

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 7:26 AM

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Low-key you don't need to know much C#, just general coding skills.

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 7:26 AM

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Im just here to see what new mods are on the horizon

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 7:27 AM

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I don't like writing non-idiomatic code, though, so I'd like to learn at least what common patterns are.

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:22 AM

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I need a save file

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Right before the HK fight with void heart

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I fucked up my saves soooo

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:22 AM

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Nice

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:23 AM

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Hornet isn't here

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Even though I have the Void Heart

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That's why you shouldn't pick up the Kingsoul fragment from WP after getting the Void Heart

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1/10 do not recommend

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:24 AM

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10/10

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Functioning as intended

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 10:25 AM

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@fair rampart should be the right save

📎 user1.dat

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:26 AM

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Oh nvm

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She still shows up at the battle

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Even though she's not outside the Egg

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Sorry All

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Thank you though!

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 10:26 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

heavy geyser Jul 21, 2017, 10:27 AM

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she's just running late

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:32 AM

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Uploading a video

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Or processing, rather

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https://youtu.be/gKKSDC85KIc

YouTube

CookieDischarge

The Better Mistake

The light, mistaken once again.

▶ Play video

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Apologize for any lag. Enjoy the meme!

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:35 AM

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Post that to Reddit

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 10:35 AM

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thats amazing

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:35 AM

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Posted to reddit

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:38 AM

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Fantastic

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Loved how the source of the light comes from its mouth

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:39 AM

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Unintentional

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Happy little accident

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:39 AM

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_mistake

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:39 AM

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📎 10.png

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 10:44 AM

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Majestic.

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:46 AM

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This is the best thing I ever made

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:46 AM

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Wait till it turns into a trend

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 10:46 AM

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Next up is Nosk

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 10:46 AM

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I made The Mistake

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now its into a video

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And probably turning into a Mod

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😉

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 10:55 AM

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Make the mistake mod a thing

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Dooo it

heavy geyser Jul 21, 2017, 12:29 PM

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select_all textures.hk
copy_paste mistake_sprite.png
replace
do it

modern hound Jul 21, 2017, 12:42 PM

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I have a feeling thats not supposed to happen

fallen violet Jul 21, 2017, 1:20 PM

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Hey Kein! Both your mods work on GOG.

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 2:00 PM

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How did you spawn GameObjects? How did you get their names and store them so you could spawn them elsewhere? Tell me everythiiiiiing

fallen violet Jul 21, 2017, 2:12 PM

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Is there a way to use both your mods at the same time though?

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 2:22 PM

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I could try building a mod loading system maybe. That might be a good way to start learning about how the game works.

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 2:25 PM

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Uhh

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You mean loading separate .dll files into the game?

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I don't get what you mean, sorry :S

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Ah

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So the game's assembly

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Would load files, which would contain MonoBehaviour scripts

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 2:29 PM

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I haven't worked on Unity before and I'm more used to C++, so that might take a while, but I'll see what I can do.

fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 2:34 PM

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Wait

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Why not .dll files? You can store the MonoBehaviour scripts/classes/whatever in the dll file, load them into the game and use the files to modify stuffs (maybe)

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How much you can modify depends on the protection value of the game's variables/methods

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 2:36 PM

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Well C# is garbage-collected. That's a pretty big difference in my book.

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 2:55 PM

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Looks like Unity's Plugin system could be a good fit for this, judging from a quick Google search.

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What IDEs/toolchains do you currently use to edit C#? I was thinking of using JetBrains's tools out of habit.

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 3:08 PM

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dnSpy, it decompiles the C# code and you can recompile bits and stuff them back in.
You can do interfaces in C# right? I imagine a mod plugin system would be one base mod that looks for, as Kein mentioned, serialized files that implement a particular defined class. Those go in a list at some early point in the code, and we put in a bunch of useful hooks. Like call 'input()' on each of the classes on each input update, etc. Pass in the GameManager class to each, should be able to control most of the game behavior.

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 3:51 PM

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That would be the cleanest way I think, so that you can have multiple mods playing nicely at the same time.

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More elaborate ones could overwrite the original code instead.

fallen violet Jul 21, 2017, 4:20 PM

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Kein, the save anywhere mod on GOG has one issue. when you quit the game, it stays on the black screen with text in the bottom left showing "Save Anywhere mod...". You have to manually force quit the window.

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 5:10 PM

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How do you handle decompilation errors like this? AutoRecycleSelf.<StartTimer>c__Iterator1D I don't know enough about C# to understand what it's trying to do, but the IDE is identifying everything as an error.

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 5:11 PM

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Personally, I've been avoiding everything with the word Iterator and <>

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Instead I just right click and hit Edit Method wherever I want to change something

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 5:13 PM

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Ah. I'm trying to compile the DLL as a whole, to see if it's possible.

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 5:13 PM

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Oh good luck with that

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 5:17 PM

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To ILSpy's repo you mean?

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Alright.

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 6:31 PM

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People do try to decompile full dll's to full compilable sources - but I believe it's often a huge mess of errors that need to be hand-fixed and guessed. Not sure if it has been done on any Unity Games, somebody did it for AM2R (though that is a fan made game) (https://gitlab.com/yellowafterlife/AM2Rrc)

GitLab

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fair rampart Jul 21, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Someone's trying to do just this for another game

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Rain World if you're interested

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 7:19 PM

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Do you use the Unity Editor too to mod?

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I've never actually used it.

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 7:19 PM

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I use Unity itself only to change music

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 8:23 PM

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@buoyant obsidian Hey, so to change the sound, you were talking about creating your own .resource pack. I got a soundfile in Unity right now, but what do i save it as to get that?

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 8:24 PM

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just drag your sound into a scene then build and run it

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since that sound is the only asset, sharedassets0 will contain your sound

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You can change sharedassets0 to be named whatever, then with UABE open and edit the dump file for whatever audioclip file

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then you'll need to specify 0 as the offset and the bundle's file size

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as the size

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yeah probably

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 8:28 PM

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🤔 seems pretty clear, thanks man

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 8:30 PM

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Doing it now

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 8:38 PM

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EHEHE It works

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753 you are amazing 👌

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 8:38 PM

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:)

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 8:39 PM

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Still kinda obnoxious to do though 😅

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 8:44 PM

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yep

scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Mad props to figuring it out though, i was torturing myself by thinking it was doable with just UABE alone.

buoyant obsidian Jul 21, 2017, 9:13 PM

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Now that the API is a thing people don't really use these anymores, but just in case it matters:

Here's a link to dnSpy, which you'll probably want to mod Assembly-CSharp.dll and change how the game works: https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy

Here's a link to UABE, which you'll want if you want to edit sprites / audio for the game: https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?22675-Unity-Assets-Bundle-Extractor

Here's a quick tutorial for replacing audio assets in Unity games: http://imgur.com/a/1VILl

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scarlet gale Jul 21, 2017, 9:14 PM

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Looks good

tawny lynx Jul 21, 2017, 9:18 PM

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I have an idea of how to get past the parts it can't disassemble. I replace them with the IL code, which a tool I found inline can compile alongside the regular code. Let's see if it works.

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Hmm, the tool seems a bit limited unfortunately.

leaden hedge Jul 21, 2017, 9:30 PM

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yeah

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looks good

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 11:16 PM

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@fair rampart How much are you planning to add to your debug mod? That screen screams "ALL THE THINGS!"

gritty snow Jul 21, 2017, 11:40 PM

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Heh, I was gonna suggest adding sceneData display, I added it to the default info box for figuring out the persistent items.

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What do you mean by realtime? Like in the scene, or just before it is loaded?

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Just the permanent, not semiPersistent boolItems isn't so bad, lists out the secrets and things. Until you hit an orb room. Lots and lots or orb bools.

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ah

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hey have you recompiled the EnterHero function by chance? I wanted to make it not give up on no gate for testing purposes - but the recompiled version just breaks. It goes into the end case "Could not find any gates in this scene. Trying last ditch spawn..." then gets a field access exception for the transform.

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I was just wondering if you came across it and found a solution. Not sure I can get the original, unless there is some dnSpy magic I don't know about. If I paste in the original with no changes, it will complain about some things, then recompile back into this broken-ness. And I haven't figured out what is wrong with the recompiled method, seems to be equivalent logic, it just traded if/else for if/return

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at this point i haven't changed anything. Originally made it so if the gateName was null or empty it proceeded on with the additiveGateSearch=false strategy (it last ditch looks for any valid gate).
But reverting that change, or even pasting the original function back in is broken. Decompiler/Recompiler issue. If you recompile the method with no changes you will probly see what I am seeing, though you might wanna back up your dll first if you do.

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it does keep wanting to make the function public rather than private though, gonna try changing it

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nope. it's fun you get stuck in the menu scene in infinite blackness.

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haha thanks

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so if I take out the transform call (that borks due to the exception) and let it EnterSceneNoGate...it seems to work...for now. Spawned in Town and went into crossroads without a problem. I also compiled it as "private void EnterHero(bool additiveGateSearch)" - gotta watch that, every time you open the edit window dnSpys like "you meant public, right? I'm gonna...I'm gonna just use public"

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oh thanks, that works really well. I wouldn't have thought it would have that level of functionality for ctrl-z.

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 1:00 AM

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haha

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gotta kill em then. Is there a decent way to make a noclip?

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seems pretty edge-case, you might be fine with a particular hack for that scene if it's easier

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 1:10 AM

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Are you guys able to change the values of charms?

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I was thinking of an idea for a rebalance mod

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but im guessing thats obvious

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(Rly tho)

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 1:16 AM

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charmCost is in playerData - that should be easy enough to hack

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Ahh. Hmm, I have a folder of dumped FSMs I can grep through, not exactly sure what to look for though.

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@modern hound https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9LWw0OUMtOU9iYVU In there is my FSM mod that let's dump FSMs at runtime. As well as mod them! Fair warning, not a super easy format. But useful at least for gaining some understanding of the logic of what controls what.

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good luck! evil laugh

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Modding notch cost is super easy and a few of the other charms are a bit iffy when it comes to changing values

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 1:42 AM

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I have a mystery. Been going around making sure most of permanent bool items in scene data are able to be accessed/activated in game - just going around looking for secrets with a convenient readout telling me when there are secrets in the room. To my surprise, I have yet to find a single out-of-bounds or otherwise broken thing. Until maybe now. Fungus2_20 has a breakable wall apparently I can't find.

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 2:21 AM

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Um

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I dont know how to Mod

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Fungus2_20, it's the scene to the right of that creepy temple with the mosskins.

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 2:22 AM

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I dont know how to mod

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I just thought of an idea

deep pilot Jul 22, 2017, 2:24 AM

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Isn't there a breakable wall which you can open between the room with Spore Shroom and the room outside the Mosskin temple as well as a breakable wall to get out of Deepnest?

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 2:24 AM

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then your dream of a balanced charm system may never come true. Unless someone else cares enough about it 😃

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you can open walls with spore shroom? Well I'll try that then, thanks

deep pilot Jul 22, 2017, 2:25 AM

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Well, not with Spore Shroom

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 2:26 AM

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oh sorry, misread

deep pilot Jul 22, 2017, 2:26 AM

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I mean the room containing Spore Shroom had a breakable wall right under where the grub is

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And that opens up a passage that connects with the room outside the Moss Prophet temple.

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 2:36 AM

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ah, now I see. I had to bring up a video, I forgot how the room was to begin with. That is the room I am talking about, the spore shroom room. But both the one-way and the shortcut have been activated. Seems to be a leftover.

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maybe since I broke it from the other side, it checks the scene to the left and an FSM removes the wall in this scene

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 3:37 AM

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705 health out of 200

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 3:42 AM

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@fair rampart Do you have a reliable way of warping to a scene without knowing a valid door name?

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 AM

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@modern hound actually charm rebalancing was one of my ideas as well, though right now im more gathering small bits of knowledge

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 AM

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I can suggest some ideas

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But Im mostly useless in terms of actual code

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 9:28 AM

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Aight, drop them in i would say 😄

tawny lynx Jul 22, 2017, 9:30 AM

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Are there mods that let you equip every single charm, or create one super-charm you can equip?

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 9:32 AM

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@fair rampart did the first of those options

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Dont think he released it though

fair rampart Jul 22, 2017, 9:32 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75dtVxW6FU4

YouTube

CookieDischarge

Hollow Knight Modding | HK + Radiance with all Charms

I equipped all Charms and got the true ending. Isn't it just great?

▶ Play video

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I will release it but not right now

tawny lynx Jul 22, 2017, 9:49 AM

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That looks cool.

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Descord

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deeeescord

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 11:53 AM

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Light mode?

fair rampart Jul 22, 2017, 11:57 AM

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ew

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Join the dark side

tawny lynx Jul 22, 2017, 12:07 PM

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Yay, finally somebody else who uses Light. >.> I always feel so alone.

modern hound Jul 22, 2017, 12:14 PM

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The problem with light mode is that the side doesnt turn light mode

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So its very contrasted

civic hatch Jul 22, 2017, 12:15 PM

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its white

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its cancerous for my eyes as soon as it gets dark and switch from a dark site to white sites

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I dont work on pc

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Nah. Will propably do, when moving out and starting to stream

fallen violet Jul 22, 2017, 12:57 PM

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@fair rampart Yeah, I don't mind testing stuff for GOG.

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The Managed folder you mean?

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/f9t399qi12zm6of/Managed.rar

MediaFire

Managed.rar

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

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What are you porting? Debugmod?

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That would be amazing!

fallen violet Jul 22, 2017, 1:39 PM

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ok

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Hmm, it crashed while loading the save

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Do you have the instruction file for this mod?

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Readme

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Let me try to load it one more time

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It seemed to have worked this time

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I can see that UI

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I can see the UI, but I can't access the menu at the bottom even when clcking with the mouse. But let me try your new file

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Also, the game doesn't quit properly. It gets stuck with a black screen with your mod text in the bottom left. Have to force quit.

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I don't see that file in data

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https://pastebin.com/QCdegHa2

Pastebin

Initialize engine version: 5.4.3f1 (01f4c123905a) GfxDevice: creating device cl - Pastebin.com

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I was in game. And then quit to menu. and then exit.

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It hung on exit.

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Can make a small vid if you want to see?

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Yeah, even with UI off.

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Hmm, weird, it quit normally this time.

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Guess you changed that variable right?

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Btw, what do some of those buttons do in there? Like Charm?

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Everything seems to be working now. I don't know what some of those buttons do though like Charm, HP bars, etc. They are not activating anything.

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I'll try this new file

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ok, it's not currently.

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no wait, it is.

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But only in pause menu?

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Oh okay. let me test

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Yeah I'm seeing the bars in red now. They are in the vicinity of hte enemies, but not directly above them.

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ok all good

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Yeah, all seems to be working great then.

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Can release for GOG!

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I didn't use your new file.

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The previous one is fine

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ok

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https://pastebin.com/ziV0bysf

Pastebin

Initialize engine version: 5.4.3f1 (01f4c123905a) GfxDevice: creating device cl - Pastebin.com

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Nice

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Great work man! I see you added those broken charms in there

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Thank you!

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 4:51 PM

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Does the community know about the secret room in the collector scene? It's similar to the hornet secret, just found it looking for secrets, kinda crazy

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This crazy thing

📎 20170722125024_1.jpg

hazy sentinel Jul 22, 2017, 4:52 PM

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yeah

alpine cloak Jul 22, 2017, 4:53 PM

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People already went mad trying to figure out what it means

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 4:53 PM

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ah, k, first time I have seen it.

hazy sentinel Jul 22, 2017, 5:12 PM

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grubfather is leonardo da vinci confirmed

deep pilot Jul 22, 2017, 5:20 PM

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I think people have figured that it is a map of all the grub locations

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Cause there are 46 dots in that diagram

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 5:21 PM

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I thought the same, it looks a little like the stagways map.

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 6:06 PM

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the list of seemingly un-activateable persistentboolitems:
Fungus2_20 : Breakable wall Waterways
Might be dependent upon scene to the left breakable wall.
Dream_01_False_Knight : Battle Scene
Deepnest_14 : Inverse remasker (1)
Deepnest_16 : Inverse remasker
Waterways_13: Shiny Item Acid
Ruins2_11: Battle Scene
RestingGrounds_12: Death Respawn Trigger
White_Palace_09: Shiny RoyalCharm
Abyss_08: Shiny Item (Blue room, guess it was for the charm itself?)

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 6:20 PM

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https://gyazo.com/1287dcaee21dd958ffb3f75e31388776 @gritty snow Been messing around with your FSM mod 😄 pretty fun

Gyazo

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 6:21 PM

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hahaha, glad to hear it

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 6:23 PM

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I think i can find some charm stuff now that i couldnt get to previously, like the soul cost for glowing womb^

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 6:39 PM

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Teach me how you did that, All.

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 6:41 PM

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Well sure, the womb stuff is the only thing i figured out currently though corny

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Downloading/installing the FSM mod is the first step i guess

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 6:52 PM

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Alright so I installed it, how do I start dumping FSMs?

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 6:52 PM

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You play the game :D

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 6:55 PM

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so this save_fsm folder is located where, right next to my save files?

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 6:55 PM

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I didn't put in a good way to loop through and load all the assets or anything - it hooks into FSMs as they are loaded and deserialized. So you make the folder, and play the game exercising relevant code for scenes and such. Not sure if all the charm logic is just loaded along with first scene or if you have to enable charms...

scarlet gale Jul 22, 2017, 6:56 PM

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im guessing the charm logic is loaded automatically, since i see stuff for charms i didnt equip

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 6:56 PM

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Yep, make a save_fsm folder next to your save files. Keep in mind it will degrade performance while that folder is there. Modding with 'hack_fsm' doesn't cause a noticeable degradation.

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 6:57 PM

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I see, impressive

gritty snow Jul 22, 2017, 6:57 PM

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Mostly just scene load time will slow down

buoyant obsidian Jul 22, 2017, 7:09 PM

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Alright so what'd you change to lower the soul cost for the hatchlings?