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buoyant obsidian
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you could spec in charms as skills

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that'd be a looooot of coding though

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I'd make exp the geo count

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You say that but I just figured out machine gun spells

warped sinew
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Nice

buoyant obsidian
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I'm respawning ghosts if you gather 2400 essence

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maybe 2500

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haven't decided

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Any idea how spell damage works?

warped sinew
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Respawn them as doom versions

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That are insanely hard

buoyant obsidian
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I really really wish we could edit enemies

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but nope

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for now mods seem restricted to our little knight

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might be able to access it with spell1Prefab.FsmVariables.SetFsmFloat("damage").Value

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I've yet to have any issues

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Maybe reinstall?

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The only thing I can think of is you didn't indent lines 15 and 16

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not that it usually matters but who knows

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base and return should be indented forward

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like when you hit tab

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I dunno that's the only thing I can see that I would've done differently

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I've yet to have that problem so I honestly don't know what to say

buoyant obsidian
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I've been working on trying to rotate a prefab, any idea on how to do that?

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this.grubberFlyBeam = this.grubberFlyBeamPrefabL.Spawn(this.transform.position);
this.grubberFlyBeam.transform.SetScaleX(2f);
this.grubberFlyBeam.transform.SetScaleY(2f);

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That's a beam that shoots left and is twice as big as normal

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any idea how I'd rotate it to shoot up-left?

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might not be possible depending on how prefabs work

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How so?

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I saw that ut the whole degree per second thing didn't sound like what I needed

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So what would I type, Rotate(45)?

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Alright rotated the sprite with Rotate(#, #, #)

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now I have to figure out how to rotate the velocity, if it's even possible

warped sinew
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I should ask Dave if he is willing to take a look in here

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He might help u out in his spare time.

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Dave Kazi I mean, the coder for the game.

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Yeah but I'm still his friend lol

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Though he might not be able to say anything regarding the code

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Legally

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I'll ask him it won't hurt.

warped sinew
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Dave said code is not his intellectual property so he can't comment on it without an OK from team cherry. Other wise he would help you out.

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I tried :(

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I thought it might be the case.

thorn comet
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Has David left TC?

civic hatch
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replacing fragile greed will rek you with the blue door in abyss.

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You need to get two more blue health to enter it

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So, it gets slightly more difficult

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If you use both blue health charms, you are missing two to actually open it.

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As the 3rd is locked behind it

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Nvm me. Im tired. I mean fragile health.

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Fragile Greed is k to replace. Even though it gets you dozens of geo in early game.

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How do you get your charm?

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Wew. They changed the price?

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I see

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What does new charm do specifically? Adds an extra life?

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I see

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Easy mode

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I like that its fragile. So it breaks upon first death

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nice

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good design

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How about replacing longnail for broadnail? :X Just giving it a broader slash, instead of making it longer.

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Yes.

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but

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it should have a slower attack

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or delay between attacks

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So quickslash and longnail have two amazing charms to actually have a neat build around

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Imagine having a massive, long and normal swinging nail.

civic hatch
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Ask @ashen sluice for help owo

buoyant obsidian
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What do you mean?

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does that mean the scaling doesn't work properly in the glass mod?

finite ether
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when reskinning sprites

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can you only stay within the lines of the sprites?

buoyant obsidian
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More or less, yeah

finite ether
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or is there a space around them

buoyant obsidian
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there are very few exceptions

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the main character is one of them, his sprites are boxes

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so are his sword slashes

finite ether
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yooooooo

buoyant obsidian
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the problem is they're pretty small boxes

finite ether
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still!

buoyant obsidian
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gotta be careful

finite ether
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yeah

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is there any way i can access the exact dimensions of the boxes?

buoyant obsidian
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Not to my knowledge, I replaced the texture with a black square so I could see the boundaries in-game

finite ether
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yeyyeyeyeye

buoyant obsidian
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the safe bet is to create a perfect rectangle that encompasses ONLY the sprite itself

finite ether
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right

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Well thanks, that helps alot

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thinking about making a skin that gives him a lil robe or animating it so that he looks like his shade at all times

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on top of that could I replace the sound effects with the shade sound effects?

buoyant obsidian
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yeah sound effects can be replaced

finite ether
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YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYYEYEY

buoyant obsidian
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it's a little technical though you'd need to learn that yourself

finite ether
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Will do

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thank youu

finite ether
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hey, so

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after you've modified a spritesheet, how do you put that back into the game?

finite ether
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ooo

buoyant obsidian
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With that you can open up resources.assets, find the texture sheet (named atlas0, there are a ton named atlas0 you want to keep guessing and checking until you find the correct one), and hit Plugins > edit

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Personally I export the atlas0 texture2d file to a file called test.png and if it's what I'm looking for I'll then replace it with what I'm trying to add

finite ether
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I'll try that too, thanks!!

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also sorry, but im having trouble locating the download link

buoyant obsidian
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Under Releases :

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2.1 is what you want

finite ether
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Ah, thank you friend

buoyant obsidian
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beware, it's a crappy and hard to use tool

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but it'll get the job done

finite ether
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I'll try and make the most of it

buoyant obsidian
finite ether
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice!

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Really looking forward to the projectile mod

buoyant obsidian
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this.grubberFlyBeam.GetComponent<tk2dSprite>().color = new Color(0f, 0f, 0f, .3f);

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color editing :)

finite ether
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Yeyeyeyeyyeyeyeyeyeey

buoyant obsidian
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well fuck, looks like Glass Soul mode just means an extra charm slot

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TakeHealth for getting hit, beamDamage for dealing

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TakeHealth found in PlayerData

finite ether
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ooo

buoyant obsidian
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Any idea on how to change background color?

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for the main menu

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spice it up a little

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also you wouldn't happen to know where I could find a scene list, would you?

buoyant obsidian
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we could always just type every possible word into the FSM.actiate(nameHere) thing and figure out what they do :)

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In all seriousness though I'm going to put something that'll log everything that is run by FSMActivator

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then I'll be able to search through logs and find at least the names of some events

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I can't find where the unity logs go though so :(

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UnityEngine.Debug.Log("my message goes here");

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oh boy exciting

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word > find > replace with nothing

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and all will go away

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Lol

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geo_getter

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x999999

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Shroom Mini is the name for the tiny mushrooms that can't hurt you

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FSM not Preprocessed: Mushroom Baby : Shroom Mini

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FSM not Preprocessed: Fungus Flyer : Fungus Flyer

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so how would I attempt to spawn these fuckers

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yep and I'm assuming glowing womb might work a little like spawning enemies

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this.fsm_whatgoeshere.SendEvent("Fungus Flyer");

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if we figure out how to spawn stuff we could have a ghost gauntlet

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idk I'm just trying stuff I just wanna spawn enemies

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MonoScript/Behavior then?

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Yeah definitely

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Show me where exactly you put your code to log things when you get the chance

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Gotcha

buoyant obsidian
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The enemies in the first gauntlet room in crossroads are called spitters

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and they fire Spitter Shot R

warped sinew
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Spitter is correct and super spiiter is the ingane name for primal aspids

buoyant obsidian
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I can't figure out how to spawn it though :(

warped sinew
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:(

buoyant obsidian
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if only code was as easy as saying "Spawn spitter pls"

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"spawn 3 spitters around the player"

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I'm doing a lot of cool stuff though here Graig

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Rewards for side quests that didn't already have rewards

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I need to put a logger for the default movement speed

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I thought it was 1 and now I'm a turtle

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Runspeed is 8.3, walkspeed is 6

warped sinew
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You could make a sprint button or charm

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I think a move speed charm would be cool

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Ehh charm is better anyway

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Sprint button is pointless cos you will never not use it

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May as well just have it on or off. Like a charm would do

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Plus u will have to sacrifice a notch or two for it

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Its good

buoyant obsidian
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The dashmaster charm gives you 10% bonus movement speed now

warped sinew
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Can you increase dash distance?

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Or is it possible to make it so dashmaster allows you to cancel the dash? Into an attack or a jump? That would be AMAZING

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I tried to convince TC to make dashmaster do that but they didn't like it

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Being able to cancel dash would make the flow of the game 10 times better

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But only if it comes with a cost, as in charm notches.

hidden gull
buoyant obsidian
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Not even a little

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Haven't tried it yet nope

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I don't know C# well enough to even try that kind of stuff

buoyant obsidian
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Added ghost rebattler

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Hmmm?

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Nice, when you get it all fixed we can have Glass Soul mode patched

warped sinew
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if i had twitter i would past my stream for the mopd

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oh well

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*post

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*mod

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FUCKING PHONE

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hahah

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oh also kein had probably told you but your damage mod gets updated when you upgrade nail

buoyant obsidian
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Oh dang I didn't even notice part 2 came out

warped sinew
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so 12 damage gets reset

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

buoyant obsidian
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yeah I found out haha

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obviously 100% intentional, to break your spirit

warped sinew
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thx

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yeah part 2 lol

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includes me raging at colossuem

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and others hehe

buoyant obsidian
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Oooh exciting

warped sinew
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only bronze and silver so far

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part three will be the rest of game. WP, GOLD trial, end bosses

buoyant obsidian
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Damn you're a straight up monster

warped sinew
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if anything this mod makes me realise how bad i am at the game lol

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i get hit all the time

buoyant obsidian
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Still, now I can't make anything without feeling like its too easy

warped sinew
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Lol

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Not everything needs to be hard

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Just as long as its fun

buoyant obsidian
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Did you figure out the flukemarm double hit thing?

warped sinew
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Oh thanks for reminding me

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I'm going to ask William if he changed the hit box or something

buoyant obsidian
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my best guess is framerate, I've had trouble in lots of games with framerate controlling stuff like that

warped sinew
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Oh maybe! I normally play with vsync on

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But not right now

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I'll test it tonight

buoyant obsidian
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vsync stops framerate from going too high, right?

warped sinew
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Yeah limits it to monitor refreash which is 60 on mine I think

buoyant obsidian
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Yeah that very well could be it then

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because I know that when framerate is higher projectile velocity can increase in tons of games

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damn fuck nails

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I'm kinda glad I'm only using beamDamage then

warped sinew
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:(

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Can't even alter it thru charms?

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Like strength

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??

buoyant obsidian
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Fragile Strength we have the least access to haha

warped sinew
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Haha oh righto

buoyant obsidian
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Thankfully Grubberfly's Elegy allows for a lot of things to work out nicely

warped sinew
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Can u clone charms?

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So have 5 different versions of grubberfly

buoyant obsidian
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Nope, so much of it is technical stuff I don't know how to use

warped sinew
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Dammit!!

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I'm gonna go into TC office tomorrow and yell at them

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Heh

buoyant obsidian
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it's not charms we even have access to, it's how they affect the main character

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Grubberfly is literally a prefab that our hero spawns

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Mark of Pride, Longnail

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Lifeblood charms, fragile health

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Stalwart, Quick Slash, Nailmaster's Glory

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Impressive mod ;)

mild kayak
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wait whoops

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aw heck this is modding

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my bad, I tab out often

buoyant obsidian
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stay we're all alone here ;-;

buoyant obsidian
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Literally as you typed that I removed mana gain on hit

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I wasn't really sure how to set it on-hit to gain mana so I opted to remove the mana on hit charms

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and switch to a mana regen over time system

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it actually works out great because it restricts spell spam

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Zero

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OH

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do you mean the little grub thing?

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or Grubberfly's Elegy?

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Not really sure what you mean

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I'm inexperienced but dedicated

warped sinew
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Plz

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I need DAT damage

civic hatch
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Is there a list of mods we already have? owo

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It should be pinned and updated

warped sinew
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Glass soul is pinnef

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Pinned

civic hatch
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Neeeat

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I like

warped sinew
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Cool

civic hatch
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still waiting for NG+ OwO

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Glowing womb and this larvae spirit shot should allow you to create small MC flies manually

warped sinew
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ok ill check it tomorrow when i got some free time

humble sinew
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neat

marble scarab
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whats it for

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nice

buoyant obsidian
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PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE"); probably breaks Fragile Strength right?

buoyant obsidian
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Nope, fragile strength works

dapper folio
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@buoyant obsidian so you know, Moddb has your 1.0.3.7 version listed as a patch to the original version of the glass soul mode

buoyant obsidian
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I listed it at as a patch, what should I list it as?

dapper folio
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unless it requires the original download as well, it should be listed as a main file

buoyant obsidian
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gotcha

dapper folio
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patches are for when there's something you need to fix in the mod and it's easier to do a patch then a new main version

buoyant obsidian
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Xero's ghost pin isn't updating for me :(

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alright the patched version is being uploaded now, extra damage will be functioning

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Base sword damage is 8 and increases by 4 with every nailsmith upgrade

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Dream bosses can be fought again immediately, while Warrior Ghosts respawn after 2400 essence is obtained

dapper folio
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heh, the patched version. also, boss refights, nice

buoyant obsidian
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There's an issue with pinning Warrior Ghosts, it should do it most of the time but even the base game has trouble with that

dapper folio
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Wow, Glass Soul is 326 out of 29710 in popularity on moddb

buoyant obsidian
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That's pretty neat

pure lantern
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Woah, there's modding in this cool game?

humble sinew
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yep

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Its actually growing

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the person that gave the idea for the channel tho was 753, the guy talking about stuff a lot of people dont understand

pure lantern
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Would you recommend playing through original game before starting modding?

humble sinew
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Yes.

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Most of the ones released are either texture changes or challenges. or at least the one developed here (is the repainted even done yet?)

soft pumice
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unless you want to put on glass soul and die in one hit as a noob hollowface

humble sinew
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I want to try glass soul
but i feel like i would fail badly without some experience in steel soul

pure lantern
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Sorry for the questions but I like to know things. How far is it possible to mod? Would it be possible, to , let's say, make Hollow Knight into an RPG with skill points and exp system?

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Does glass soul make the soul-meter look transparent?

humble sinew
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Ok for one it already is

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two, it makes you die in one hit

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three, i'm pretty sure the mods out right now are only scratching the surface.
Also, its impossible to retexture the final boss, his sprites are spread out or something

soft pumice
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there is no exp system, what are you saying?

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it already isn't

humble sinew
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hes saying would it be possible to give it an exp system leveling an RPG mechanics

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Which isn't really a mod and more like a whole rework into a different game

pure lantern
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+damage, +speed, etc. when you lvl up and/or spend skill pts

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Yeah, that's what I was asking about. Whether it would be possible to rework the whole game

soft pumice
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well then what's the point of modding? do another game from scratch in that case x)

humble sinew
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Well, considering that the modders on the server are discovering files code and new variables as we go, there is really no way to tell right now

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Also

pure lantern
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Thanks for the info

humble sinew
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I agree with Zefile

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Why rework the game so hard when you can just start from scratch?

soft pumice
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*ZEFILE ;-;

humble sinew
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HAHAH SORRY

soft pumice
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oh why cruel world, why does everybody calls me zelfie ;-;

humble sinew
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ITS SO HARD TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT WHEN I'M EXPOSED TO CRUEL MEMES

soft pumice
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you primalaspid

humble sinew
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I take high offense to that

soft pumice
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i hope you do :p

pure lantern
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Uranium neutron Soul: You die if a gust of wind comes in a 1000 pixel radius of you

humble sinew
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what purpose would that serve

alpine cloak
humble sinew
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I cant wait for this repainted

soft pumice
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i got an idea: just like glass soul, but you can't use your sword or spells and you kill ennemies by touching them.

pure lantern
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It's just a dumb idea, since the steel-soul and glass soul were supposed to make the game harder

soft pumice
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so you'd have to get close to kill ennemies

pure lantern
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was talking about my idea btw, not Zefile's

soft pumice
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^^

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i'd call it spiky soul XD

pure lantern
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But what would you call that? Thorn Soul?

soft pumice
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or that

humble sinew
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Also, FK looking like Bowser is brilliant

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I love these sprite retextures

soft pumice
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how long until someone replaces all bosses with naked girls?

pure lantern
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Your idea would need a lot of balancing because you'd have to take dmg every time and then have to heal or something

humble sinew
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why

soft pumice
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because it is the internet XD

pure lantern
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Unless you made the character invulnerable to physical attacks

soft pumice
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^

humble sinew
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Why would you want Porn Night

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kill me

pure lantern
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porn knight seems like a better name

humble sinew
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I said Night because ya know

pure lantern
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Madieval warrior with a porn mag in his hand

soft pumice
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yeah

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map = porn magazine

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and sword = dick

humble sinew
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PFFFFFFF

pure lantern
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Dildo

humble sinew
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NO more

pure lantern
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not dick

soft pumice
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saints row dildo bat?

pure lantern
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No, just a very sharp nail-shaped bug penis

soft pumice
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XD

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@humble sinew don't just delete your message :p

humble sinew
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It ruins the effect

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If i dont

pure lantern
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Though I've gotta say, papa grub is pretty hot, kappa

humble sinew
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Do you have an inflation fetish or some shit

soft pumice
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it lacks boobs. plz modders retexture

pure lantern
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that's why I said kappa

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don't take me seriously

humble sinew
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I am not taking anything in this conversation seriously

blissful jay
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Papa grub is more of a vore fetish honestly.

humble sinew
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I mean yeah

soft pumice
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what is this anymore XD

pure lantern
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modding

humble sinew
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No

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This is sick

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Sick, sick modding

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that no one will do

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Because its dumb

pure lantern
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Not so sure about that

soft pumice
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at one point all games have a porn mod

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even minecraft

buoyant obsidian
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@alpine cloak troll aspid is currently in Repainted, but Repainted is on haitus to pursue advanced modding

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an RPG system is actually very possible but certainly wouldn't be worth the hundreds of hours of work

alpine cloak
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Okay ๐Ÿ˜„

pure lantern
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hundreds?

humble sinew
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Yeah

pure lantern
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Well then, if I ever become rich then I'll get someone to make that mod

humble sinew
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Do you have any idea how long it takes to mod in new mechanics

pure lantern
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Nope

humble sinew
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To put it into perspective for ya

soft pumice
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a long time/10

buoyant obsidian
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It wouldn't be too hard with the source code, but we don't have that

humble sinew
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Super mario bros is a made from scratch engine game, and took about two years too make

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Something around that

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maybe it was 3?

pure lantern
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I tried modding isaac once but after putting about 5 hrs into it, I just started playing other mods

buoyant obsidian
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That's why you gotta start modding games without other mods

mild kayak
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I modded tf2 so that everyone's footsteps were the branch from we are number one

humble sinew
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Time well spent my friend

mild kayak
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also the killsound was duck army and it enforced pacifism because my ears hurt so badly from the volume

humble sinew
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Yikes

pure lantern
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Extra weapons mod: when you kill monsters you, they have a chance to drop their weapon (if they have one) and then you can use that weapon

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Wouldn't mind being able to use False Knight's hammer

buoyant obsidian
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Haha that's not happening any time soon

pure lantern
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Just as expected, would be hard when the game only concentrates on the nail

soft pumice
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the needle would be the best

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from hornet

buoyant obsidian
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The needle I can do

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I'm working on a ranged weapon mod at the moment, complete with charms that modify said weapon

pure lantern
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bow?

buoyant obsidian
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nope you'll see when it comes out :)

pure lantern
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Seems interesting

buoyant obsidian
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I feel like I should start up a donation box or something to keep me motivated

pure lantern
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Don't feel demotivated if nobody donates though

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I'm sure a few people will but it's better to keep expectations low

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Depends on a lot of things tbh

buoyant obsidian
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I don't have a credit card to set up a paypal account anyway

pure lantern
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You can make a paypal without credit card

soft pumice
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even if you don't have donations, be aware that the members in this community support you! ^^

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why 753 btw?

buoyant obsidian
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It's a dark and terrible secret

soft pumice
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okey XD

mild kayak
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I could draw stuff if you need it

soft pumice
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you killed and raped (in that order) 753 people?

mild kayak
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the only downside is I don't have digital art

pure lantern
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Isn't 753 a prime?

buoyant obsidian
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It's a false prime

pure lantern
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My dividing skills are indeed the best

mild kayak
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is 753 the number of bees you've punched

soft pumice
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false prime?

buoyant obsidian
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Looks like a prime, isn't actually

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251*3

pure lantern
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Is that the reason then?

buoyant obsidian
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Nope

soft pumice
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i mean pretty obvious if you look at it as 750 + 3

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is 753 the number of reference for primalaspid in HK? hollowface

pure lantern
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i like how modding slowly became general

soft pumice
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sorry :x

pure lantern
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quick, just use "modding" at an end of every sentence and I think we can get away with it

soft pumice
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hum... about that needle modding?

buoyant obsidian
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I decided not to do anything like that since Team Cherry is going to add Hornet anyway

soft pumice
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oh, kewl

pure lantern
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as a playable character?

soft pumice
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duh

pure lantern
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Who's she gonna fite?

dapper folio
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we don't know exactly

pure lantern
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unless she's just gonna fight her twin sister

dapper folio
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new campaign

pure lantern
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That'll take long

dapper folio
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yeah

pure lantern
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Worth it

dapper folio
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likely

light shale
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I want a mod where I can play as one of the bosses

dapper folio
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so make one

light shale
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Can't, I'm already a mod

warped sinew
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if i update my mod will it update my nail damage? lol i already know it probably wont...

buoyant obsidian
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It will indeed.

warped sinew
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YES!

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lol

buoyant obsidian
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It is now calculated on-attack

warped sinew
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im about to head to gold colly

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and that would help A LOT

buoyant obsidian
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oh boy

warped sinew
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i mean not right now, when i start part three

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(i got stupid work to go to )

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tomorrow i will be running it tho

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also @fair rampart that dashjump.rar wont open when i download it

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says incomplete

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i tried three times

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ya you will get garbage collection

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kein is right

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oh whats that mean?

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah I'm trying to avoid that in Lightbringer

warped sinew
#

oh a new rar huh. i didnt even know about it cool

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its kinda funny, i rememeber talking about this stuff, with the actual Team Cherry haha

#

about how to implement things so no garbage etc

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thx kein

#

so cancle dash with dashmaster or always?

#

nice just tried it out

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for a bit

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seems pretty good!

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air dash wont cancle into doublejump but you probs already know that

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if you could get attack to cancle it too, then you would have a really nice charm with dashmaster

#

turns you into a dashing killing machine

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hmm i see

#

i think its a great idea that should have been in the originaly game

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but only with dashmaster

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i told them on its own its not a very good charm

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its about giving the player as many different choices as possible

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that are viable

#

yeah they added that for some reason lol

#

you gotta rememeber they were three very poor dudes running out of time

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so a lot of things just didnt get added

#

i played the game when it had a back dash

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and honestly it wasnt very good

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you dont ever really need it in combat

#

thats true

buoyant obsidian
#

NOTIFICATION_CHARM_BREAK

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might be helpful?

warped sinew
#

if it had some I-Frames

#

than it would be good

buoyant obsidian
#

it's an entry name from the text but the FSM event might not be far off

#

EN_UI

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anything's worth a shot vOv

#

oh

buoyant obsidian
#

I found how to spawn prefab spell1

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that's about all

#

this.spell1Prefab.Spawn(this.transform.position);

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in heroController

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wait wat

buoyant obsidian
#

I couldn't find anything interesting so I went back to working on charms

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and retexturing

buoyant obsidian
#

YES!

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well, damaged maybe not

#

but I found a fuckload of blinks

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aww

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Can't you remake it with Flash()?

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ah

#

yeah

buoyant obsidian
#

NailSlash method

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in HeroController

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my bad you're right

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NailSlash class

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forgot it was its own class

#

you might have to do some weird importing to get PlayerData in there if you wanna connect it all

#

Diagonal was a no-go with the grubberfly beams, but there's a ton of direction stuff in NailSlash and Attack you could check out

#

I never tried to do it myself except with grubberfly

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going to bed now, g'night

warped sinew
#

I saw it in the slack looks sick. I'll play around with it when I get home

#

Imagine that in the trial

#

Going crazy dashing and slashing everything

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Air dash too...

knotty tapir
#

oh that dash cancel, that's sexy

warped sinew
#

is the pinned glass soul latest ver?

#

all good i found the newest one

buoyant obsidian
#

So like Aspids can do zero damage?

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and Zote can do 10000?

stray mirage
#

Can you affect enemy knockback yet?

#

I want zote to do zero damage but knock you out of bounds

finite ether
#

yo

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that'd be great

stray mirage
#

He banishes you to the shadow realm

buoyant obsidian
#

"Zote but if he hits you your save file is irreparably corrupted"

finite ether
#

true steel soul mode

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everythings normal till you fight Zote

buoyant obsidian
#

I love it

finite ether
#

nice!!!

buoyant obsidian
#

Anything else planned or can I download that?

#

Before I go messing with the universe, do you think changing the timescale slightly could have any unintended consequences?

#

It's incredibly fluid

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Getting hit seems to cancel it too

#

It's going to replace Steady Blow and be a use-at-your-own-risk charm that increases the speed of time every time you slash upwards

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killing some enemies also breaks it

buoyant obsidian
wispy root
#

I wonder how trying to speedrun with that thing would turn out, lol

buoyant obsidian
#

Every time you upslash, time speeds up by 5%, until you reach a maximum of 2x.

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Getting hit or killing certain enemies will end this effect.

wispy root
#

Does jumping into water cancel it?

buoyant obsidian
#

probably not, but who knows it's a Time Fracture

wispy root
#

Would still be fun to try, got nothing else to do atm in HK until content patch

buoyant obsidian
#

Yep, I'm hoping to get this out before the 4th

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Just a couple charms left and some retexturing / text editing

buoyant obsidian
#

beautiful

warped sinew
#

Speaking of debug William has one built into the editor

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When he plays the game thru editor numbers 12345 do different things like invincibility, give money, infinite air jump and others

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Pretty sure it just checks a flag that its in edit mode. If u can enable the flag then u will have access

#

I think...

pure lantern
#

Soulless Mode: Basically like Glass Soul but if you die then you have to start the game all over again.

dapper folio
#

steel and glass at the same time?

#

you fool

pure lantern
#

I'd play it

dapper folio
#

my statement stands

pure lantern
#

Hey, what's the point of having a harder mod if you aren't going to make the hardest one?

#

Or at least attempt to

dapper folio
#

because I don't like permadeath in a game that it isn't meant for

pure lantern
#

I mean, Steel soul and Glass soul already go there

dapper folio
#

glass soul is fine

#

steel soul... i'm not a fan

civic hatch
#

Glass steel is horribly painful I think

buoyant obsidian
#

I don't mind extra difficulty but Steel Soul doesn't exactly provide that, it just becomes more punishing.

dapper folio
#

^

#

that exactly

buoyant obsidian
#

?

alpine cloak
buoyant obsidian
#

ayy

alpine cloak
#

How do you like it?

buoyant obsidian
#

Not bad, we'll see how it looks in-game though

alpine cloak
#

Yeah, I'm interested in that too

#

Ohh

#

For some Reason Clip Studio didn't Save my Layers, nice

#

I can't Edit it anymore if I wanted to

buoyant obsidian
#

I'm not really sure if it fits the style of everything else

alpine cloak
#

Yeahh...

#

And it's smol

#

And now I cant edit it Anymore hollowface

dapper folio
#

probly would've been a good idea to start with one of the existing charms for a size template...

#

shame about the layers thing

alpine cloak
#

Yeah :/

#

But the Charms next to it seem bigger

buoyant obsidian
#

it replaces Longnail so it has to stay in those boundaries

alpine cloak
#

Ohhh

#

And you can't make it Bigger?

buoyant obsidian
#

Not without clipping

alpine cloak
#

Ohh, okay

#

So, is it too high or too wide?

buoyant obsidian
alpine cloak
marble scarab
#

wtf

alpine cloak
#

?

civic hatch
#

what are all these charms?

vernal rover
#

For @buoyant obsidian 's project

buoyant obsidian
alpine cloak
#

The Horizontal one is Kinda off

vernal rover
#

Looks better w/ out the horizontal nail

alpine cloak
#

So mine probably didn't look all too well ๐Ÿ˜…

buoyant obsidian
#

This is for another charm but yeah, I decided to keep to my yellow jewel theme for the divide one

alpine cloak
vernal rover
#

Question: That one charm next to Spell Twister, what was it originally?

alpine cloak
#

Wasn't it the one that negated knockback?

mild kayak
#

yeah I think it's Steady Body

vernal rover
#

Ah okay

buoyant obsidian
#

Only 7 new charms.... hmmm

alpine cloak
#

About your Charm that fires the Radiance profectiles: Wouldnt it be cool if a Charged shot would fire in 8 directions like in the boss fight?

buoyant obsidian
#

I tried something like that but it didn't really fit inside most areas

pure lantern
#

Make the projectiles mini needles?

buoyant obsidian
#

there's something like that too

pure lantern
#

Good, just giving ideas incase I come up with something new

humble sinew
#

So
what charms have you modded so far
im really curious

buoyant obsidian
#

Stay hyped, it'll be out in a few days tops

humble sinew
#

Debug menus eh?

warped sinew
#

How goes the mods boys?

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I've been a bit busy

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Haven't kept up much

warped sinew
#

Yo kein I played a bit of the new bosses yesterday they were great

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TC might get you to test them with me.

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Pre-pre-pre- public beta lol

thorn comet
#

New bosses ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Lucky

marble scarab
#

i am new bosses

thorn comet
#

youse test em well for us later

buoyant obsidian
#

Lightbringer mod is slated for July 3rd release, maybe sooner

warped sinew
#

Oh nice

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Can't wait for it :)

tidal flint
#

I don't wanna rwad through 1000 messages can someone summarize what this mod is

stray mirage
#

a lot of things have happened

#

but there have mostly been a lot of texture replacements

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and a mode where you die in one hit

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and new charms are being added

tidal flint
#

texture replacements?

stray mirage
marble scarab
#

excuse me

mild kayak
#

excuse me but that's beautiful

tidal flint
#

is there a download yet

buoyant obsidian
#

Not yet, expect July 3rd

warped sinew
#

Nope

marble scarab
#

is that hell

stray mirage
#

no this is patrick

marble scarab
#

๐Ÿ”ซ

mild kayak
#

that retexture was so beautiful that they couldn't handle it

marble scarab
#

add to hk when imo

buoyant obsidian
#

Coming to a modded version near you July 2017

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(not actually the retexture of the game may take a while, if it ever comes out)

warped sinew
#

Nice work

marble scarab
#

pinning your own messages yuck

mild kayak
#

the longer I look at that the more it confuses and worries me

buoyant obsidian
#

Oh no I just realized you probably can't cut ropes in my mod

fair rampart
#

How far are we into modding? What have we accomplished, and what is possible? I'm very interested in modding myself so I'd appreciate if someone could update me on the modding scene for this game :)

hazy sentinel
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there's a google drive folder in pinned messages

buoyant obsidian
#

Retexturing to an extent, editing the effects of certain charms and hero values, etc

#

if you get creative you can do some neat stuff but it's still super limited

#

and a lot isn't available to us

fair rampart
#

Not bad for a start

#

How do mods function right now? We replace the main assembly?

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Or have we got a working modloader

buoyant obsidian
#

Drag files into folders and replace manually

fair rampart
#

Hmm

#

In that case external files probably can't do much :S

#

Hmm

buoyant obsidian
#

I'm sure if you knew enough C# and Unity you could add your own stuff

fair rampart
#

Porting something that loads external .dll files into the game isn't hard but, depending on the game's assembly, modding with them could be very very limited

#

I'll definitely have to take a peek in the code haha

buoyant obsidian
#

My mod should be out within a day or two so you'll see what's possible very soon

fair rampart
#

What does it do?

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Or, will do, I guess

buoyant obsidian
#

A few new charms and attacks

fair rampart
#

Ok that's fast

#

Nice! :O

#

I'm guessing you have a lot of C#/Unity experience?

buoyant obsidian
#

Absolutely none

fair rampart
#

That sounds hard to imple- wait what

buoyant obsidian
#

I've been relying on Kein for all the technical stuff

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I'm just super creative

fair rampart
#

Wow Kein I'm impressed

#

If you did do those then nice fucking work dude they look incredible

#

Those custom attacks in the gif ^^

buoyant obsidian
#

Nope that's mostly me

finite ether
#

@buoyant obsidian you're doing so cool shit

#

good on ya

fair rampart
#

Uhm, sorry, you just said Kein did the technical stuff? I'm confused :S

buoyant obsidian
#

he just tells me what's possible to change and how stuff works

fair rampart
#

I'm impressed with whoever implemented it into the game

#

Whoever knows the codes is ๐Ÿ‘Œ

buoyant obsidian
#

I rewrote all the attack code :)

fair rampart
#

Man I want to mod this now

#

Brb I'm going into dnSpy

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Aaand I'm lost

#

I have some C#/Unity experience but going into a new game without knowing how it works is always a pain

buoyant obsidian
#

Take a left at CSharp.dll

fair rampart
#

I know I have to look there ^^

buoyant obsidian
#

HeroController is probably the easiest to modify for results

#

things like Attack() are in there

#

CharmUpdate()

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Update()

fair rampart
#

That's a lot of methods

#

Holy

#

_>

buoyant obsidian
#

and PlayerData can modify your new-game stats, and you can take variables from PlayerData and use them in methods from HeroController

fair rampart
#

so. many. methods. help

#

Ok I'll take a look at this later

#

Thanks! :D

#

Gonna go back to playing instead of messing with the game now

buoyant obsidian
#

Oh?

#

that does make sense yeah

plucky blade
#

suggestion for a mod

#

but i kinda wanted an option to show a transparent minimap in the corner that you can turn on and off

#

also that the map doesn't completely fill a room once you've been in it

#

only fill the portions you've actually been in ya know

#

so you can remember which parts you missed etc

#

just noticed this channel now and thought those would help out a bit

#

sure if someone wants that

buoyant obsidian
#

The map is all textures

plucky blade
#

make pins for the secrets ?

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and add them to the list

#

yeah that

#

and for the minimap i meant something like that

#

put like 50% transparency on it

#

and have a toggle button

buoyant obsidian
#

What's Deep Focus doing there?

#

is it your map?

#

That's pretty sweet

#

Hell yeah it would

buoyant obsidian
#

Good news is my mod works pretty well, no bugs that I can find so far

#

bad news is it's kinda boring in a lot of areas because most enemies weren't designed around ranged combat

fair rampart
#

@fair rampart How are you loading textures? Does the game have a method for it or using WWWs and getting texture from them?

#

Ah, alright

#

Well if it's an actual texture you could probably use WWWs

#

Can get from files and links and output a texture

pure lantern
#

How many mods are there so far?

buoyant obsidian
#

Glass Soul mode, No UI for screenshots, and debug mode for now I think

#

All pinned

pure lantern
#

Good enough. Pretty hard to make mods, eh?

buoyant obsidian
#

In a limited environment yeah

fair rampart
#

What's something I could try to mod into the game? Keep in mind I'm still pretty lost in this code but I'll get my bearings if I take a good look at it I guess

#

I just want to try to do something so I start to understand the code a bit more

#

I have some Unity and C# experience

buoyant obsidian
#

To get familiar with it, I recommend changing one of the charms to do something neat

fair rampart
#

Unrelated, but this game reminds me of Ori and the Blind Forest

buoyant obsidian
#

Timescale, movement speed changes, projectiles based on Grubberfly's Elegy, extra jumps, geo, health, damage, and nail range can all be modded.

#

figure out what you can do from those

fair rampart
#

Timescale? What exactly should I do with it

#

Time.timeScale is easy to mess with

#

Lower is slow-mo obviously

buoyant obsidian
#

For instance, I made a charm that makes time go faster and faster when you attack upwards

fair rampart
#

Ranges from 0 to 1 IIRC

buoyant obsidian
#

then resets when you hit an enemy

fair rampart
#

So 0.1 would be slow-mo

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

fair rampart
#

1 would be real game time

#

Warrior Senses
Slows time down for a few seconds after being hit by an enemy

Now there's a charm idea

#

Can we do completely new charms?

buoyant obsidian
#

Not really, there isn't exactly space to equip them

#

you can do stuff like turn Hunter's Mark into pseudo-charms

fair rampart
#

I have never heard of PlayMaker so uhm, that's a no-no I guess

buoyant obsidian
#

You could probably code a dreamnail upgrade for 2500 essence that activates a short burst of slow-motion when hitting the dreamnail button in the air

fair rampart
#

Howling Wraiths trigger slow-mo for 5 seconds

buoyant obsidian
#

Well yeah but canDreamnail or whatever returns false if you're not on the ground

fair rampart
#

Does the game check for the input that activates the dreamnail?

#

Maybe if you're on ground it triggers it and if on the air it triggers slowmo

buoyant obsidian
#

it's constantly checking for canDreamnail I think

#

in HeroController

#

so you'd just need to figure out how to bind a key to a new method

fair rampart
#

Well I'll get back to playing and I'll try modding later on a new save I guess

pure lantern
#

what if you made the timescale -1?

buoyant obsidian
#

I honestly never thought to try that, but code doesn't exactly work in reverse

pure lantern
#

I guess it would freeze

#

using cheat engine if you type in a negative number for speedhack then the game just stops

buoyant obsidian
#

Nope, haven't really looked for it

#

I think I saw some font "materials" but aside from that nah

buoyant obsidian
#

WHY ARE HATCHLINGS INVINCIBLE

urban summit
#

what types of mods are there for Hollow Knight

stray mirage
#

pinned messages

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah they're all pinned

urban summit
#

Cheat engines

#

nope

#

maybe when im done playing the game hollowface

stray mirage
#

cheat engine has been working since launch day

buoyant obsidian
#

Lightbringer is being uploaded, finally done boys

fair rampart
#

Is that the mod with the custom attacks?

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

buoyant obsidian
scarlet gale
#

Ill give it a try eventually

dapper folio
#

Damn you 753, I still haven't gotten around to doing a Glass Soul playthrough!

#

does Lightbringer work with an existing save?

marble scarab
#

753 is god

buoyant obsidian
#

Lightbringer might corrupt an existing save

#

and by corrupt I mean permanently lower your sword damage :)

stray mirage
#

S W O R D

buoyant obsidian
#

n a i l

marble scarab
#

S W O R D

buoyant obsidian
#

I could totally fix that stuff though if you really wanna give it a shot, it's neat to experiment with the different charms and fight bosses

#

Oh yeah that's probably a smarter choice

dapper folio
#

yeah, definitely gonna back it up, mostly I just wanted to skip straight to HK/R with the new charms before trying a playthrough

dapper folio
#

as if I read readmes

mild kayak
#

I guess you knew where to look for those typos

marble scarab
#

@buoyant obsidian fix or death

buoyant obsidian
#

fuck I did fix it earlier

dapper folio
#

fixed it in the zip I keep in the google drive folder

buoyant obsidian
#

I obviously put it there to test you guys

marble scarab
#

is this supposed to happen

#

i have less health reeeeeeeee

#

WHY IS EVERYTHING FAST

buoyant obsidian
#

Are you using Time Fracture?

marble scarab
#

uh

#

no

#

hitting up speeds up the game

buoyant obsidian
#

Time should be moving normally then, that's interesting

buoyant obsidian
#

what charms do you have on?

#

it looks like you didn't install the texture pack

marble scarab
#

ok

#

didnt know that existed

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah Resources.assets brings it all together

wispy root
#

Uhhh, how do I install it?

buoyant obsidian
#

Installation instructions should explain, but in short drag the .dll file to the Managed folder and hit replace, then drag the resources and sharedassets1 files to the data folder and replace

marble scarab
#

replace the normal Assembly-CSharp.dll file with the one in the mod folder

buoyant obsidian
#

Oh it looks like I forgot the sharedassets file

#

but the resources one is there and that's all that's needed

wispy root
#

Cool, I'll do that

#

There were no installation instructions in my readme though

buoyant obsidian
#

oh no

dapper folio
#

yeah, install is missing

buoyant obsidian
#

that would explain the typos, that wasn't the readme

dapper folio
#

hah

buoyant obsidian
#

If I had nitro I'd just upload the .zip here but gimme a sec, fixing that now

#

The file needs to be authorized by the site, give it a bit

dapper folio
#

ok

buoyant obsidian
#

(I authorized it myself, fuck admins I'm a modder)

dapper folio
#

if you want, I can give you access to the google drive folder, that way you can more easily share any larger mods

buoyant obsidian
#

eh effort

#

I like moddb, it's simple

dapper folio
#

drag and drop...

buoyant obsidian
#

1 place to remember

dapper folio
#

then people just have to look at the drive link in pinned messages

buoyant obsidian
#

shit I messed up on installation instructions again

dapper folio
#

hah

buoyant obsidian
#

who would've thought the .txt file would defeat me

dapper folio
#

alright, well, good luck with that. drive offer stands if you change your mind

buoyant obsidian
#

I like having download stats

#

gotta know how many people have it

marble scarab
#

im going faster than light

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah that's a neat charm

marble scarab
#

no

#

im not using the charm

knotty tapir
#

what are the charms

marble scarab
#

by swinging up, you go faster

buoyant obsidian
#

Are you sure, gittle?

marble scarab
#

even without the charm

#

yes

#

actually

#

nope

#

it replaces your charms with other charms

buoyant obsidian
#

?

marble scarab
#

it replaces some charms with the modded charms

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

knotty tapir
#

i think he's asking about your timescale

#

or is it a cause of the charm replace

marble scarab
#

now im going slow

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah my charms replace some of the charms that were already in the game

knotty tapir
#

is there a list of what the new charms are :d

buoyant obsidian
#

Nope, they're surprises

knotty tapir
#

so you only find out which charms were replaced... after you get them?

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah you'll go through the game and when you get a charm you'll be like oh shit this isnt' Soul Catcher

knotty tapir
#

my money's on mark/longnail :p

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

knotty tapir
#

is it easy to un-mod

#

if it is i'll go grab some food and squeeze in an hour before castlevania goes on sgdq

buoyant obsidian
#

As long as you save your save file (or start a new one), you can just use steam to instantly unmod

wispy root
#

Time fracture is the time speeding one, right?

buoyant obsidian
#

with Verify Integrity of Game Files

#

Yes, MonStahLer

wispy root
#

damn, 2000 geo

buoyant obsidian
#

Yep, it's a steep price

knotty tapir
#

is there a charm that makes flower quest easier

buoyant obsidian
#

Being ranged arguably makes the quest easier

#

and there's a movement speed charm so you can dodge and weave

knotty tapir
#

nah the only difficult part is the three thorns jump right before the grave

#

i guess speeding up time will make failing much less painful :^

#

brb

buoyant obsidian
#

Alright, FILE IS UP FINALLY

#

with fixed readme.txt

#

No more knew

dapper folio
#

we'll see about that

buoyant obsidian
#

honestly, text files are really hard

dapper folio
#

can't even download it

buoyant obsidian
#

fuck

dapper folio
#

there we

#

go

buoyant obsidian
#

refresh worked?

dapper folio
#

yeah

#

huh, you deleted Glass Soul Mode?

#

no, there we go

buoyant obsidian
#

Stop scaring me

dapper folio
#

pinned link is outdated

buoyant obsidian
#

Fixed

marble scarab
#

the bell tho

#

i think hollow knight just crashed

buoyant obsidian
#

Uh oh, what'd you do?

marble scarab
#

try to go to ancient basin

#

entering doors and stuff is pretty laggy

buoyant obsidian
#

I'll check it out

#

any doors in particular?

marble scarab
#

nope

buoyant obsidian
#

I have no problem there

marble scarab
#

ok

buoyant obsidian
#

I ran into that stupid glitch that stops wall-jumping

#

not even my mod's fault :(

marble scarab
#

just add memes to the mod and 10/10

buoyant obsidian
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that's next on the list

marble scarab
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good

knotty tapir
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i took 8 hits to kill a squit

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@_@

buoyant obsidian
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Welcome to hell

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the lance does considerably more damage than the nail

wispy root
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Does nail upgrade empower the lance damage?

buoyant obsidian
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Yep

wispy root
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cool

knotty tapir
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4 masks

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kill me

marble scarab
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^

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git gud iirc

buoyant obsidian
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The extra charm notch though

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worthy trade

stray mirage
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you wouldn't happen to be able to swap text yet, would you?

buoyant obsidian
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Swap text like how?

stray mirage
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replace dialogue

buoyant obsidian
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I have replaced dialogue

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Talk to the fat charm bitch about my charms

knotty tapir
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Fury of the Fallen
Glass Soul
KILL ME

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fuuuuuck that

stray mirage
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you can do all of it?

buoyant obsidian
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Yep

stray mirage
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...

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check the art channel

buoyant obsidian
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Oh that haha

knotty tapir
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are you supposed to gain nearly no soul from attacking

buoyant obsidian
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Nearly? You mean ZERO

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Soul regenerates passively now

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Blame Graig for that one

warped sinew
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Hmmm well looks like I got something new to stream

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Lol

buoyant obsidian
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No more spell cheesing for you

warped sinew
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!!!! No dont blame me

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For anything ( only good stuff)

marble scarab
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still adding the memes

buoyant obsidian
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I'm fucking terrified to fight the Mantis Lords

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this is exciting

marble scarab
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you should add memes to beat them :^)

buoyant obsidian
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You'll get your memes one day

warped sinew
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Absolutely Mobadis

knotty tapir
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inb4 i take vengeful spirit

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and it's just a range upgrade

warped sinew
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Dammit I'm stuck at work for like 4 more hours! I wanna play this mid

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Mod

knotty tapir
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what about glass soul :p

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hey how are you supposed to beat the baldur

buoyant obsidian
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Glass Soul is a charm now who cares :^)

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Baldur Elders can be easily slashed up

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something about the way they interact with Grubberfly's Elegy was miscoded, so once you shoot lances at them they get chopped up repeatedly by mysterious energy

knotty tapir
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oh

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spoiler alert

buoyant obsidian
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Twin Fangs is underrated as fuck

knotty tapir
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do they deal same damage

buoyant obsidian
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It's not for DPS, on single targets

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since there are two projectiles you can hit two targets

knotty tapir
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it's used for cleaning out swarms of stuff

buoyant obsidian
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also it technically doubles your projectile width

knotty tapir
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infected xroads is no longer a pain in the ass

warped sinew
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Trail of fools someone stream it

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I wanna seeeee

knotty tapir
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it looks like the second hit doesn't deal damage, but does apply a knockback

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shit i hid acid 3 times