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#archived-modding-development
finite ether
I have a modding question actually
would it be even possible to mod in a new charm that replaces one of your spells with the final form of Hollow Knight during the end of the radiance boss battle?
the art assets are already in the game
mild kayak
as in it summons an entire hollow knight?
mild kayak
that sounds cool, like they lash with long-range for a few seconds?
well probably not seconds
alpine cloak
Oh nice, finally a modding Channel
humble sinew
That 753 guy has a home
finite ether
yeah something along the lines of consuming soul over time or every lash consumes soul
decent damage values
mild kayak
this trackpad hates me
ashen sluice
that screenshot looks like a reaction image
finite ether
does anyone have a link to the thing that lets you extract game files?
im gonna try to make that mod, if it's even possible
actually since enough people have asked, we can pin the link to this channel
buoyant obsidian
https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/releases
This tool will let you open up Assembly-CSharp.dll, allowing you to modify actual code. The .dll file is found in Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed
buoyant obsidian
you'll probably need to know a little C#
finite ether
I know nothing about programming, unfortunately.
is there still a way for me to extract the game files?
buoyant obsidian
You can get them, but you certainly won't be able to create anything new with them
brave viper
finite ether
maybe if there's enough interest, someone else will make the mod
buoyant obsidian
Unity Studio is a program that allows you to extract all the art and text assets from the game. It can explore .assets files, where you can then extract all the Texture2D files. https://github.com/Perfare/UnityStudio/releases
buoyant obsidian
no problem
finite ether
aw
would it be possible to change the hollow knights sprite sheet to something else?
Cool, I have. I'd probably be using flash though
wanna see if i can replace all of hollow knights sprites with his ultimate form seen in the radiance fight
it'd involve new animations i think
buoyant obsidian
There's a lot that's not possible right now
retextures like that need to be close to the original, so they can't be any bigger by the original sprite even by just a little
finite ether
aw
well until someone figures out how to do that, I'm gonna go ahead and make a new sprite sheet for it just in case
civic hatch
online pvp when??!
buoyant obsidian
If anyone can find the gameObject labeled Charm Effects please tell me
buoyant obsidian
I see.
brave viper
uistate doesnt change the ui
buoyant obsidian
I have no idea why but it won't let me recompile HeroController, even without changing anything
so... how did they make it work?
damn, I might be limited to only modifying health and range charms
buoyant obsidian
Anyone here know whether nail upgrades increase base damage or not?
also, what's with the exploding Geo animation in the mask texture file
vernal rover
Oh btw @buoyant obsidian I uploaded the final color pallet preview for False Bowser in #art-discussion but I wasn't sure if you saw it.
buoyant obsidian
Nope, post it here
vernal rover
buoyant obsidian
you better believe it
buoyant obsidian
At the moment, just unity asset extracting / retexturing, and a little bit of health / geo / sword range modding
maiden fiber
Ah
Well, maybe when i get my Drawing Tablet, i'll be able to do some interesting things ;P
buoyant obsidian
I'll provide you with any spritesheets if you want to take a shot at it
maiden fiber
Not right now at least
vernal rover
Just note that the texture of the sprites gotta be somewhat close to the original, pixel wise
alpine cloak
vernal rover
So far, we did Crawlids, Baldurs, Hoppers, Tiktiks, and Loodles
maiden fiber
o:
alpine cloak
vernal rover
They're bastards, aren't they
maiden fiber
They're the bane of existence in the Colliseum of Fools
I've yet to finish the last one because of them
vernal rover
They appear in Trial of the Conqueror, not in Trial of Fools. You'll be facing someone far worse then the Great Hoppers
maiden fiber
Hmm
It's been a long time since i played Hollow Knight
Mainly because i'm waiting for the second playable character
x)
I like zote
Even how selfish and weak he is
He's quite charming
alpine cloak
If you have an Idea just ask :P
maiden fiber
Thinking about changing Hollow Knight to Zote, is an interesting idea
alpine cloak
Hollow Knight will be a lot of work
buoyant obsidian
it's still like 50+ images that need editing
maiden fiber
Also, don't mention anything about the True Ending, because i've yet to get that and i'm too lazy to do it right now, since i'm too addicted to Tower Unite
vernal rover
And in other character sheets and separate sheets
buoyant obsidian
Well yeah, editing each of the images on the big sheet though
plus I wouldn't be too surprised if the devs gave us Zote in the near future
maiden fiber
And by the looks of it, the zote part didn't get reached in the stretch goals in the funding
Wonder how they're going to introduce Hornet
maiden fiber
Oh it's going to be a free dlc?
vernal rover
Not sure
buoyant obsidian
The July one? Yeah
vernal rover
Yep.
maiden fiber
Hmm
vernal rover
I'm hoping we learn more about the Dung Defender and his past.
buoyant obsidian
I need my Dream Dung fight
dapper folio
Ooh, new channel. Are there Modding Mods specifically for this channel?
buoyant obsidian
Doesn't seem like it
hidden gull
That would make us the Modding Mods mods
buoyant obsidian
Mods modding the modding modder mods?
alpine cloak
Modding Inception
mild kayak
if you made someone into a mod are you modding them into a mod for the mods
light shale
Mod or not to mod
dapper folio
Someone make me a modding mod so i can mod the modding mods
mild kayak
the modding is hurting my head
maiden fiber
Sleep
mild kayak
no, I'm living on 2 hours of sleep, a bowl of soup, and a cup of coffee I can survive
buoyant obsidian
for real on that 2 hours of sleep shit
I just can't get modding out of my head tho
Last chance for someone to donate to the modding cause by buying me Hollow Knight 
otherwise I'm running to get a steam card
fair rampart
I haven't slept and will not sleep
dapper folio
you don't have it????
fair rampart
tfw 0 cents in steam wallet
buoyant obsidian
Steam Family Share ain't cutting it anymore
hidden gull
Yeah like to mod
Make
O
Difference
buoyant obsidian
mellow axle
@buoyant obsidian
buoyant obsidian
Yeah?
mellow axle
You doing it?
buoyant obsidian
Literally just did as you typed that
mellow axle
Oh well
buoyant obsidian
Lol don't tell me you were gonna gift me?
buoyant obsidian
that's some fucking timing right there
mellow axle
How to do the shruggie command?
hexed basalt
it looks like you did the shrug command correctly
mild kayak
welcome to the pit
mellow axle
Hang on it doesn't work on mobile??
mellow axle
/shrug
thorn comet
try underscore
hexed basalt
_shrug
buoyant obsidian
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mellow axle
Alright, y'all can't type /shrug
But I can
Hey @buoyant obsidian
What kind of mod do you make?
buoyant obsidian
Currently working on a retexturing of the game
with tons of goofy stuff
and there's also a super hard 1-hit-you're-dead mode that'll probably be released tomorrow
I also eventually hope to mod some charms
mellow axle
Ooo, custom charms
hexed basalt
steel soul 1 hit your dead mode sounds like fun
buoyant obsidian
That's the plan
mellow axle
Will you take requests?
hexed basalt
maybe ill try to do steel soul 1 hit your dead
buoyant obsidian
I can't really, I'm very very limited without source code
Expect a really huge sword mod though
mellow axle
What's the max notch slots that one can obtain?
buoyant obsidian
infinite, I think
7 normally?
Kein, I made damage kill you automatically
and I'm hiding the masks from UI
wait no 9 charms normally
notches
I'm gonna need some testing to see if the mod breaks during dream sequences though
and I'm still not sure how nail upgrades would impact your damage
mellow axle
If a single charm used 9 notches, how big could it get to still be balanced?
I mean the nail
buoyant obsidian
I changed starting nail damage
Oh, that's perfect
Overcharmed kinda ruins the idea of balancing a charm like that, Eyo
mellow axle
What's overcharmed?
buoyant obsidian
If you still have at least 1 notch, and try to equip a charm that's too big 5 times
it'll get put on but you'll take double damage
mellow axle
Wow
Didn't know that
I'm going to do it right now
So speaking of taking double damage, how balanced would a charm be if it gave you 2x damage but take 2x damage?
buoyant obsidian
Sounds like a 3 or 4 notch charm to me, not exactly possible to mod right now though
mellow axle
One more balance question
Do you agree with me when I say longnail should be a 1-notch charm?
buoyant obsidian
Not really
mellow axle
It really makes a minimal difference though
buoyant obsidian
15% is a lot for something that important
buoyant obsidian
25%
Think of it like jousting, if your lance is 10% longer than your opponents, you'll always hit first if you extend it
mellow axle
I think visually longnotch is less than 15, though?
mellow axle
And that comparison is only viable if you're fighting against an opponent who's otherwise identical
But I agree still
mellow axle
What does blue name mean?
buoyant obsidian
He drank too much lifeblood
It doesn't ignore blue masks sadly
I tried that first
I tried variations of pretty much all the health methods in PlayerData, couldn't find one that worked
so TakeHealth was all I had
mellow axle
So is damage to blue masks threated as taking damage normally?
buoyant obsidian
Not really
Where's that?
UpdateBlueHealth seems to only be called when sitting on benches
since it needs to update what the charm returns
mellow axle
Oo so you lose all your blue health first, then it gives back according to your charms?
buoyant obsidian
I'm fairly sure, yeah
mellow axle
So it also calls when changing charms or only when equipping those specifically?
buoyant obsidian
You can only change charms on a bench, so I think it's bench related
mellow axle
But then it would have to run this command all the time while sitting
buoyant obsidian
or just whenever exiting the charms menu and initially sitting down
buoyant obsidian
C# from what I can see
finite ether
ooo
vernal rover
Hah. I just noticed one of FK's sprites looks kinda off.
By that I mean the pole of his mace is hovering over his hand
finite ether
i used the extractor and im going through the audio files of the game. there's one song called The White Defender that's just so beautiful and epic and amazing, but i dont remember what part of the game it's from, if it's even there at all
was it cut from the final version?
vernal rover
Looks like it
vernal rover
I mean I have one of his two sprite sheets
finite ether
is it Fierce Drya?
vernal rover
But yeah False Knight's got two sheets full of his sprites, including him popping out of the suit of armor and the mace head running away
vernal rover
Okay here's the link to his sprite sheet folder:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7cpthpshTWtZnhrSzZVQ1JXUUU
finite ether
thank you!!
finite ether
so the White Defender piece was replaced with the false knight song?
vernal rover
White Defender?
finite ether
the song i referenced earlier
it's not part of the official soundtrack, or any part of the game for that matter.
but it sounds so goood
vernal rover
Where did you find this? Was it in one of the game files?
finite ether
yeah I extracted it from the game
vernal rover
Do you remember which one you got this from?
finite ether
i dont understand the question?
vernal rover
Which file did you extract the music from?
Level 14? Shared Asset 45? Those kinds of files
finite ether
ah, the original title of the file was "S76b-458 White Defender"
i just extracted them all in bulk, so i dont remember which level
that's why i said my best guess was it being fierce drya's theme, since she was going to have a boss battle in the game before it was cut
and the name fits her description? idk
looking through Unity Studio now to find the exact location
vernal rover
Found it
finite ether
ah?
finite ether
ahh
vernal rover
Sure enough I found this
And, who knows. We may actually face Drya
The same track was used in the Dream trailer
finite ether
i would like that ;v;
vernal rover
I certainly would like to face the other knights too. Ze'mer, Isma, and Hegemol himself.
finite ether
that'd be cool
vernal rover
That was an idea they had before it was scrapped during the final production of the game
So here's to hoping
finite ether
yeah
also some fun stuff to think about https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/5x69fy/missingupcoming_content_compilation/
anyway, I'm off to bed. Thanks again for the help Mewnna
buoyant obsidian
Lol at the file name Final Final Boss
buoyant obsidian
I'm making the boss defeat music the Final Fantasy Victory theme
vernal rover
That's gonna sound fun
Anyway, here's the music clip for that damn place in Deepnest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7cpthpshTWtOHFmOUtNQktiSU0
I find it ironic that it's called "optional NPC room"
HOW IS NOT FACING HERRAH OPTIONAL LMAO
vernal rover
That's kind of the point
You walk in, thinking it's perfectly safe, and then you come to realize it's not
buoyant obsidian
and then quickly come to realize yeah, it's actually safe
vernal rover
Even the violin starts to turn sour when you sit on that bench
buoyant obsidian
I love the wiggle you do on that bench
I'm still a little sad that the dreamers weren't all huge bosses
the lead up was always so full of hype
vernal rover
The monsters guarding them were plenty enough, especially Luriens
damn watcher knights I ain't got time for bullshit
buoyant obsidian
yeah I just feel misled, Zelda did it better with the whole "gather the triforce" thing
vernal rover
Well I guess that happens when we have high expectations
buoyant obsidian
I'll just make the dreamer icons on the minimap triforce pieces
and everything will be fine
vernal rover
AGOAGNOAGN that would be great omg
vernal rover
I think I remember someone here wanted to have a ost of Deepnest, but I can't remember who it was or how long ago it was
And because it holds too much information, I've uploaded the track to Drive:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7cpthpshTWtZDlGWEVoR01TQUk
marble scarab
uh
buoyant obsidian
Anyone have a save file with a dream boss still alive that I could use for bugtesting?
Yup, it's glass UI now
I went for a minimalist approach, since you're not going to have masks or anything
Oh?
I like the idea
Do I need to change the name of this save file to user2?
If I already have user1
Making sure
Couldn't you also remove all charm notches?
Yeah I suppose
I'll probably keep charms, but I will look into using masks as power ups
What are you working on?
Hiding the geo would be so nice, I want to remove mine and change the price of everything to zero
finite ether
yeah ever since unity overhauled how their ui works late last year, the way ui handles numbers is more integrated into unity itself, not necessarily code for that game
cunning basalt
WAIT YOU CAN MOD THE GAME WTF IM NEW ON THIS PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME A SUMMARY OF WHAT THERE IS
buoyant obsidian
Nothing yet
cunning basalt
ow
buoyant obsidian
There's a no HUD mod for screenshots but the geo counter is still there
and I'm about to release a hard 1-hit-death mode
cunning basalt
oh damn
buoyant obsidian
also a long-term retexturing of the game is in progress
finite ether
actually "replacing" sprites and hitboxes is the end-goal, i think
but now we're just confined to coloring over sprites
not going out of the sprites themselves
buoyant obsidian
I don't know if it'll ever be possible
finite ether
we'll have to see i suppose
fair rampart
could I get the nosk spritesheet? Especially the animation where he transforms. I dont know how to use all the unity tools...
buoyant obsidian
Here's the final HUD I'm going with
the gold ring indicates you're in steel glass soul mode
fair rampart
thx bae
buoyant obsidian
mild kayak
yeah I like that one more
buoyant obsidian
I'll test it out
Not a huge change but I think I'll keep it like this for the sake of time
fair rampart
idk if thats possible but the eyes shouldnt be translucid
buoyant obsidian
ugh why did you have to mention that now I can't ignore it
fair rampart
sowwy 
buoyant obsidian
If we could figure out how to replace animations I'm sure I could make a magic based character with new attacks
fair rampart
you'd have to reverse-engineer the code to alter hitboxes and traveltimes
i dont think that possible
unless the devs support you
or just change the textures of your abilities?
if theres no major post-processing on the textures, that could be done
buoyant obsidian
I'm not 100% sure yet but there's potential there
I mean like not sword attacks
sudden moon
Liked seeing the iterations that design went through
I agree that the gold wasn't good initially, looks good now though 
buoyant obsidian
When I'm done with this I may have figured out a way to make a super slash attack that damages the user
fleet sage
That would be quite terrible
knotty tapir
"hurts you more than it hurts me!"
buoyant obsidian
The Glass Soul mode mod needs a little testing, anyone wanna help out?
dapper folio
sure
buoyant obsidian
Alright, gimme a second to upload
I doubt it will work first try but that's why we're testing
dapper folio
how the process goes
buoyant obsidian
D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed
buoyant obsidian
Walk up to an enemy and take a single point of damage
dapper folio
new save or existing?
buoyant obsidian
Any, actually
buoyant obsidian
You get increased damage on new characters
I decided not to make it one hit so boss fights are actually fun
buoyant obsidian
I'm surprised that works, thanks for testing
dapper folio
no problem
buoyant obsidian
believe it or not that's kinda the finished product, I just want to add some cool graphics and text to go with it
dapper folio
Let me know and I'll add it to the art archive, it's where I'm keeping a mod folder as well
buoyant obsidian
will do
buoyant obsidian
Just make sure the HUD looks like it should and you die in one hit :)
dapper folio
star?
buoyant obsidian
yeah I felt likemaking it different
couldn't really make a decent looking "glass" HUD
dapper folio
no health masks
buoyant obsidian
Perfect
dapper folio
bewarew the suiciders
buoyant obsidian
yep they're not nice at all
Do you think I should ditch the stars for the default textures?
dapper folio
normal soul container when playing, shows as star when viewing saves
buoyant obsidian
Yeah I'll change the select profile back to the soulcontainers
buoyant obsidian
Exactly
dapper folio
testing fury
buoyant obsidian
Fury won't work because you aren't 1 HP
dapper folio
rip
buoyant obsidian
I plan on adding a bunch of tooltips that say "This charm is worthless to one with a glass soul."
The Fury is built in to your base damage
dapper folio
alright, that's all i can think of
buoyant obsidian
Thanks for testing it, I should be able to roll it out tomorrow with no issues
the rest is just nitpicking textures and text
dapper folio
@thorn comet going to post link to Mod Archive (only two residents right now), would you pin it once I post?
Here's a folder of all the Mods posted in this channel:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs?usp=sharing
Message me if you'd like to have a mod added or editing privileges to handle your own mod in the folder.
When looking to see which version a mod is for, check the zip names, if there is no version and it's an API mod, check the Modder's API for version compatability
Current Mods:
110% (kcghost)
Blackmoth (Gradow)
Bonfire (Gradow)
Boss Rush (KDT)
Charm Notch Mod (Seanpr)
Cut Content (kcghost)
Debug Mod (Seanpr)
Dreamshied Co-Op (753)
Empress Muzznik (753)
FSM (kcghost)
Glass Soul (753)
Lightbringer (753)
Modding API (Seanpr & Firzen)
Nightmare God Grimm (KDT)
Player Data Tracker (KDT)
Randomizer (Seanpr & Firzen)
ScaleMod (753)
Unending Dreams (MaxTCC)
753 is tracking # of downloads for his mod and it's encouraged that you download from the moddb links over from the drive folder. links can be found lower in pinned messages or in the drive readme.
thorn comet
dapper folio
thanks
thorn comet
How's that?
dapper folio
good, if I change my mind, I can edit it
thorn comet
Easy done 😄
dapper folio
i like the fact that despite not being able to pin messages, I can edit messages of mine that have been pinned and the changes show
buoyant obsidian
It's going up on the Subreddit tomorrow, I'm hyped
Over the next few days I'll have a version with all the text for charms updated, and maybe some more retexturing
but the first release is gonna be just the code and no-masks retexture
dapper folio
sounds good
buoyant obsidian
dapper folio
works for me
buoyant obsidian
:)
dapper folio
also in the google drive folder for people who frequent here
buoyant obsidian
I figured out how to mod things like speed, we can make custom charms now
I'm gonna work on replacing Hiveblood and Lifeblood charms so that they have a purpose in the Glass Soul mod
@fair rampart do you know where I can find a list of charms corresponding to # such as equippedCharm_15
I just did
that's the compass making me run 4x as fast
I can completely replace lifeblood charms with separate functions
HeroController
I'm modifying methods, not the class itself
sneaky way of getting around compiling errors
public void CharmUpdate()
Who knows, I might be able to connect music to charms
imagine the sonic theme playing
alpine cloak
Say, could you make a Charm that would completely nullify your Naildamage and boost your SOUL Charge?
buoyant obsidian
That sounds awesome Akagura, I'll give it a shot
Fuck yeah Kein
I can't even break signs!
0 damage won't work, 1 damage would make more sense
oh shit, I didn't even check that
Kein you're right, I need to have an else statement there
that will set my speed down 15%
Dirtmouth is what is referred to by walk speed, I think
Dirtmouth, benches, etc
Yep
tell me if you see the information for the nail upgrades anywhere, I think I need that if I want to set damage back from 1
If a charm sets something to 1 it needs to set the damage back to what it used to be in the else statement
all that information might get fucked up by things like fragile strength too
That's what I was thinking but I'm not too sure how UpdateCharm works, I'll try it though
yeah what I'm trying to avoid is infinite damage scaling by equipping fragile strength, sitting on the bench, then equipping nail damage 1 where it saves your old damage
CharmUpdate() takes priority
That fucking elusive geocounter
Literally as you said that it started throwing errors
oh nvm, it compiles just fine
just make sure all your ints are ints and your floats are floats, etc
this compiler pisses me off, it tries to make things "efficient" by inserting return statements instead of if else
To edit the method, are you right clicking it and selecting "edit method"?
To reaffirm, you're opening up HeroController then right clicking the section containing CharmUpdate(), then hitting Edit Method (C#)?
Using dnSpy?
Honestly I have no clue then, that's just computers for ya
sometimes they work sometimes they don't
if you have anything you really want to try and a fresh install doesn't help you, I'll gladly implement it
buoyant obsidian
@fair rampart do you know of any way to search all of the .dll for a word?
I'm trying to find where Fragile Strength is stored
Oh? How would that work?
I can't find where nail damage is upgraded, and if you get a nail upgrade while you have the 1 damage nail charm equipped, it ruins your game
Oh wait, there's a nailsmith upgrades variable hahaa
buoyant obsidian
@alpine cloak the charm is complete. Damage is reduced to 1 but soul gain is increased by a lot.
alpine cloak
Cool 
buoyant obsidian
Any other ideas for a mage class?
I might make a whole Soul Master mod
I'll look into decreasing the cast time too
buoyant obsidian
I recalculated it using the "nailsmithUpgrades" value in PlayerData
forgot that existed
and since it's just +4 each upgrade it should be fine
so (starting damage) + 4 * nailsmithUpgrades
It's at the end of CharmUpdates
it is set to 1
and the else statement sets it back
Yup
No, but I did attack a few things to see if it was at least changing it back nearly
yeah I need to test it with Fragile Strength too
no idea how it's implemented but I think it's on-hit
along with Fury
Haven't tried, I'm focusing on a charm mod at the moment
I have a cool new attack cooked up
buoyant obsidian
Me testing things
alpine cloak
stray mirage
so you just have to go back to a bench when you need to desolate dive?
buoyant obsidian
This next mod I'm making is gonna be huge
I'm converting the protagonist to be a ranged character with multiple spells
charm-based spells
knotty tapir
can'tw ait, i'm not good enough for your glass soul mod
try to get thorns of agony, dies
buoyant obsidian
bruh I'm not even good enough for it
Also, thorns on a character who dies in one hit?
knotty tapir
100% :p
buoyant obsidian
If I handle it correctly I can make the up-slash texture appear as two magic circles where the lances spawn from
it'd be a ton of work though
buoyant obsidian
ayy
thorn comet
❤
buoyant obsidian
Hollow Knight: Glass Soul is a hardmode mod where you die in a single hit. You can find it here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/6j8gvq/mod_hollow_knight_glass_soul/?st=j4c2yakr&sh=e889b33e
buoyant obsidian
Nope
currently trying to get geo to update when given negative geo
I just want a sword that costs geo to swing
The geo counter goes negative
like the updater
Doing something with that?
I'm very tempted to create my own questline
with item rewards
also I'm assuming there's a method that colors sprites somehow, do you know what it's called?
Well, fury recolors the Grubberfly's Elegy sprite red
I want to see if I could recolor it black
Nope, I changed it to a lance
and the lance gets recolored red, despite me never making a red lance
buoyant obsidian
It's probably a unity thing, I'm gonna go to bed now. If you find anything neat show me tomorrow.
alpine cloak
Turn Abyss Shriek into Abyss Shrek
civic hatch
plis no
What are actually the possibilities of modding?
Like, is there a possibility for some online 1vs1 pvp action?
or is it only cosmetics?
buoyant obsidian
The possibilities are climbing, but I doubt we'll ever see any form of multiplayer
but what we can do is change charms, how certain attacks work, and textures.
I made the main character fire ranged lances instead of sword swipes, I made a charm shoot lances behind you while firing forward, and I made a charm that fires two lances at once.
I'm currently working on a charm that costs geo per attack but enhances your attack in some way
I think I actually could make KingSoul recover HP
For now :)
that's why it's an adventure
buoyant obsidian
Oh boy here come the bugs
I set my attack size to be slightly bigger and now it's permanently remembering that I made it bigger
buoyant obsidian
Alright fixed that :)
Not sure what you mean by that
if you're talking about recolors I still can't do that
Here's a copy of my Attack() method, I ended up rewriting it from the ground up pretty much
keep in mind this is my first time using C#
buoyant obsidian
The pink squares?
also great idea, I didn't even consider that
WHAT?
I changed my mind a seasonal mod is a great fucking idea
we can draw little snowmen in Dirtmouth
That'd be awesome
when I'm done with this mod I'm gonna look into that
buoyant obsidian
What items, though?
civic hatch
abilities
alpine cloak
Glitchless probably not
buoyant obsidian
The only abilities I've noticed that are possible are a ranged attack and the sword attack
and since I can only use one set of textures, it'd be limited to those two attacks
civic hatch
how? I asked if its possible to switch the locations of some items, and not a reskin of several skills.
buoyant obsidian
Like, finding charms in different locations?
civic hatch
Or dash, doublejump etc.
buoyant obsidian
That'd be possible but buggy
civic hatch
so you gotta find an alternative route to progress
civic hatch
I dont think so. As you can get a different routw everytime you get an ability.
buoyant obsidian
If crystal dash is your first item you lose
if you don't get mantis claw early you lose
civic hatch
You can get doublejump early, which opens other ways. Crystal dash could stay out of the pool I guess.
buoyant obsidian
I feel bad for my Steam Friend List that keeps seeing "753 is playing Hollow Knight" every 30 seconds for several hours
buoyant obsidian
Great work on the No HUD mod btw, I'm gonna use it to make cover art for my next mod
haughty ginkgo
Save best girl. Find a way!
mild kayak
"we modded the game to give all of the characters a happy ending"
fair rampart
pacifist mode when
buoyant obsidian
Does glowing womb kills count as pacifist?
fair rampart
kill = bad = no pacifist
buoyant obsidian
But it's not you doing it :P
buoyant obsidian
Radiant Jewel, an unlockable gem from my upcoming mod Lightbringer
vernal rover
Cool! What is it's effect?
vernal rover
Ooh! This must be the one where you swing your nail and two nail projectiles go across the screen
Say, since both of these charms reflect on Radiance's moves, have you thought of making a charm that projects those homing soul orbs like them?
buoyant obsidian
I was planning on changing the glowing womb to be closer to something like that
moreso a texture replacement
vernal rover
What other charms are you gonna change textures?
buoyant obsidian
I'm not really sure at this point
I want to change Longnail and Mark of Pride since the character won't be primarily melee
What could this even be?
vernal rover
I can't tell if it's suppose to look like a skull or a pair of wings
I'm sure there's something to mod with this.
buoyant obsidian
That's 3 charms total, and that's how many I've coded effects for
Oh no my Paint.net crashed for the first time literally ever
idk what I'm doing anymore
Guardian
warped sinew
Hey that glass soul mod one of u made, is it perma death too?
buoyant obsidian
Only if you select Steel Soul mode
buoyant obsidian
I'll watch if you do, that'd be impressive.
warped sinew
I'm always trying to rush enemies cos speed run but this is dufferent
mild kayak
how early in the night is it for you people?
warped sinew
Trying to never get hit
I will stream in like 3 hours
Its 3pm here and I'm at work
buoyant obsidian
Oh 3 hours, it'll be 4:45 AM for me xD
buoyant obsidian
Maybe next time
mild kayak
oh it's only 1:45 AM for me
warped sinew
Does buldar shell still block attacks?
buoyant obsidian
I think so, I don't see why it wouldn't
warped sinew
Hmm seems like a good charm this mode lol
mild kayak
but can you focus?
buoyant obsidian
Yep
mild kayak
spore shroom is just tactical area denial
warped sinew
Trial of fools will be hard
buoyant obsidian
Oh man yeah it will
mild kayak
and leaving the cast off shell
though I believe super dashing will prevent you from getting hurt
buoyant obsidian
When I played on steel soul glass mode I died at the uh
mild kayak
imagine doing steel glass soul mode all the way to the cast off shell somehow
buoyant obsidian
greenpath somewhere
mild kayak
and one of the crumbling bits just bonks you on the head
just right there run's over pack your bags
buoyant obsidian
That's the beauty in it
mild kayak
I hope someone tries it and that happens to them
buoyant obsidian
Right now I'm coding a glass soul charm for my next mod, Lightbringer
mild kayak
it's a horrible thing to wish upon someone but it's hilarious
buoyant obsidian
Glass Soul gives you 12 base damage instead of 5
mild kayak
I believe infinite fury of the fallen?
buoyant obsidian
Fury of the Fallen is non-functional
Glass Soul also gives you another charm notch
buoyant obsidian
You'll cut through enemies but die in a flash
mild kayak
so honestly the fragiles are also fair game, but I bet fragile health is also non-functioning
buoyant obsidian
Yep
mild kayak
what happens to the lifeblood charms, also just straight up nullified?
buoyant obsidian
Anything health related is out of the question
buoyant obsidian
It's barebones as hell difficulty
warped sinew
Its interesting tho
buoyant obsidian
I mainly made it for bossfights tbh
although you won't get bonus damage for those
warped sinew
?
buoyant obsidian
I mean
warped sinew
Isn't the nail upgraded
buoyant obsidian
if you switch to glass soul in the middle of a save
warped sinew
I see
buoyant obsidian
Honestly though my next mod is going to be way more worth playing through
Glass Soul mode will be a trinket
mild kayak
I couldn't do glass soul haha
buoyant obsidian
That'd make bosses trivial sadly
My first run through, False Knight couldn't hit you because you out-damaged him
warped sinew
Bosses already trivial :p
buoyant obsidian
so I adjusted everything
mild kayak
wait oh dear god I just realized the most painful part being white palace
white palace on its own is fine but doing it without taking a single hit
mild kayak
yeah once you get it down but I've always taken a hit in there
buoyant obsidian
The game just got updated, might've broken the mod already haha
mild kayak
I mean in terms of steel glass
warped sinew
Quick fix it in 3 hours so I can play it when I get home haha
buoyant obsidian
Yep, I'm gonna test it right now
warped sinew
Oh steel glass.. Yeah fuck that
buoyant obsidian
The update did indeed break the mod, time to remake it
buoyant obsidian
Even those break
dapper folio
well... rip
buoyant obsidian
I think I'm going to discontinue Glass Soul once Lightbringer is finished
dapper folio
how easy is it to update just textures? textures and the other stuff?
Lightbringer?
buoyant obsidian
Lightbringer is gonna change textures, attacks (melee to ranged), and charms.
included will be a Glass Soul charm anyway
dapper folio
neat
warped sinew
Do u start with the glass soul charm?
buoyant obsidian
For Lightbringer it will be replacing the Fury charm
warped sinew
OK nice
Well I was the lead tester for the actual game, maybe I can now be your mod tester too lol
buoyant obsidian
:o were you really?
warped sinew
Ya
buoyant obsidian
That's awesome, it'd be great to have someone like you around
warped sinew
Infact I'm (hopefully) going into TC office soon to test content pack 01
thorn comet
Yeah Graig is practically TC family
buoyant obsidian
I'm jealous, that's so cool
warped sinew
William was my best man at my wedding
Lol
We went to school together. He was making games even back then!
warped sinew
Ahh nice!
I'm excited haha
I told will about the mods starting to appear he was very excited for it
Then he made a joke about how you guys are going to make him look bad cos the mods will be so cool
Honestly team cherry are just like everyone here, just some guys who love games so they made one.
warped sinew
I'm just thinking of useful charm combos for it... That extra notch is nice
buoyant obsidian
With the extra nail damage longnail / mark of pride will really help
warped sinew
Sharpe shade and dashmaster
buoyant obsidian
Sharp Shadow is absolutely necessary
warped sinew
Ya the extra distance is good
buoyant obsidian
Don't forget to overcharm
warped sinew
!!! Yes
That extra damage with strength too... So good
Ahhh I can't wait to try it out
warped sinew
Thx for update :)
buoyant obsidian
If you have any issues or suggestions I'll be on in about 12 hours and I'd be happy to hear them, I'm off to bed now.
warped sinew
K good night
buoyant obsidian
dapper folio
added the updated version the the drive folder
civic hatch
Whats with upping enemies? Is that a possibility? If yes, we could design a NG+ version of HK
Bulkier enemies who all deal double their current damage. 4 damage by fallen champion would be ridiculous
buoyant obsidian
I could code everything to be bulkier and deal double damage
void flint
Could it be as simple as forcing an Overcharmed state permanently?
buoyant obsidian
Even simpler, type *2 where it says TakeDamage()
For bulkier, I'd just calculate a lower nail damage at the beginning of every attack
buoyant obsidian
I'm hoping to figure out how to summon enemies one day
They should be gameobjects, right?
hidden gull
Hmm, that seems like a challenge
hidden gull
If all of the enemies are part of the current area, then you could add an enemy and put it way off screen
Then the summon command could move that enemy from off screen right next to you
lavish fjord
@buoyant obsidian I like it 
buoyant obsidian
I'm watching graig1337's playthrough of Glass Soul right now how exciting
Thanks Deimohs
hidden gull
If it's popular enough they could booster pack it like binding of isaac
buoyant obsidian
Booster pack?
hidden gull
add it as official game content
buoyant obsidian
That'd be neat and super simple to do
lavish fjord
achievement for glass soul 100%
hidden gull
What is the precise mechanism you use for one-hit kills?
lavish fjord
buoyant obsidian
TakeHealth() sets your health to zero
hidden gull
nice! So you just override the original method and hide the health bar
that's very clean
buoyant obsidian
Technically you have a normal HP bar and every hit does no damage
it just hard-sets you to dead
hidden gull
so you don't have to deal with special considerations like getting mask upgrades
lavish fjord
but like what does it appear to do as the player
civic hatch
pair this with steel soul for major pain
hidden gull
glasteel
buoyant obsidian
I was already using dotpeek originally, but I abandoned it because I couldn't figure out how to recompile
and when I tried again I could never find anything that dnSpy didn't let me reach
- Changes your character from melee to ranged
- Adds several knew charms that augment your ranged abilities
- Increases the number of charm slots you start with by 1
- Allows you to fight dream bosses again after you defeat them
That's the Lightbringer feature list so far
I'm probably gonna take away a health mask too
limber valve
is it possible to make a boss health mod?
buoyant obsidian
I haven't even tried, anything I'd want to do can be added to another
do you know where the variable that controls when you're allowed to cast focus is?
I'm trying to make focus restore Soul instead of drain it
So could I make canFocus always true?
oh
What kind of charms did you want to make?
Ah I see
soft pumice
btw, why can't we teleport back to the last bench already? you just have to go back to main menu to do it, so why isn't it an option, to same time?
buoyant obsidian
5+4*nailSmithUpgrades
I just recently updated my Attack() method to just recalculate at the beginning of every attack
so that I can change values more freely for my charms
oh fuck
I'll test it
if it does, I'll just add if(charm_FragileStrength){ nailDamage++; }
so I don't need to worry the game will calculate it for me no matter what, right?
Nice
I haven't tried, I figured with all the work I've done on Attack() it'd be better to keep everything there
now I don't have to worry about it ever again
Probably a dumb question but you can't recompile while the game is running, right?
Yup
You know where Glowing Womb damage comes from?
I haven't done it yet but I was just gonna surround TakeHealth in an if(charmx)
I had the damage aspect working I think
wait hold on maybe things are different because I'm changing BeamDamage, not nailDamage?
alright yeah I know what you're talking about now
have you figured out when nailDamage is updated exactly?
it turns out I've never noticed it doesn't update because I always change rooms
Tell me if you figure that out because I do need that
buoyant obsidian
I'm thinking that Update() in heroController might do it
Well, might be able to do it
wait nvm I don't know what I'm talking about
buoyant obsidian
Now this is weird
I set my naildamage to 1000 when using a charm and it's taking 2 hits to kill enemies
2 hits to kill
beam damage works as far as I know
for grubberfly
to update on the fly
buoyant obsidian
Fragile Strength does not effect my beams the way I calculate them
vernal rover
I usually thought Fragile Strength works more for your nail, not spells
buoyant obsidian
I'm double checking everything since calculations are not as aspected
buoyant obsidian
There's a ton of info in PlayerData about the upcoming content pack but it should really remain a surprise
What was the maximum essence again? 2600+?
buoyant obsidian
I'm gonna make a way to resummon ghosts at 2500+
since it'd technically mean infinite essence anyway
knotty tapir
2608 is the max i think
2582 from trees, warriors and bosses; 25 ghosts and cloth makes 2608
warped sinew
The game changed scope like 5 times during production
There is a lot of old data
Redundant stuff in there
Someone make a mod so glowing womb is useable plz
buoyant obsidian
Are you sure, Kein? There was a ton of stuff in XXXXXX that wasn't there last update
about a XXXXXXXXX
and XXXXXX
yeah the XXXXXX
warped sinew
Keep that stuff hush hush plz
Tho the trailer is out and ppl already kinda know what's coming but still
buoyant obsidian
Yeah my plan was to keep it hush hush
there's literally zero benefit to knowing about that
warped sinew
TC are totally happy for you guys to mod and data mine but if secrets got out before release they wouldn't like it. But I know you guys are gonna go snitch them out anyway.
*aren't
warped sinew
Just pm William for the line you need to call on slack
He probs tell you
I think...
buoyant obsidian
I absolutely love it
I can change repair price through resources text assets I think
oh good point
editing text values always fucks my game anyway
EN_Prices
works like a charm
badumtss
buoyant obsidian
The price works, I bet second chance will work fine
warped sinew
Heal charms great idea
buoyant obsidian
I can edit TakeDamage just fine, in PlayerData right?
Fuck this compiler though
warped sinew
I wish I knew code so I could help :/
buoyant obsidian
No need I enjoy it
warped sinew
Actually if I knew code I'd probably be working for TC haha
buoyant obsidian
we could always use ideas though
warped sinew
I'm good for ideas!
buoyant obsidian
Does that actually change anything though?
It makes it unreadable sure
but I keep my commented code in a separate file
oh shit
didn't even consider that
playerData.brokenCharm_24 = true?
I'll have to test if that works in-combat
Did you test it?
Unequipping is a method
How many geo do you think tanking a hit is worth?
thorn comet
More than 1000 for sure
thorn comet
When in the game do you get this charm?
buoyant obsidian
It'd be Leg Eater
if that doesn't work I'll have to think of something else like movement speed or an attack that costs geo
How'd you manage it?
warped sinew
Can you make it take a percentage of your geo?
buoyant obsidian
Yes, Graig
warped sinew
But only over like 1000?
buoyant obsidian
Yup
warped sinew
I think that works
buoyant obsidian
50% makes it so you get 5 extra life at 20k geo
and it's a 2 notch charm and also gives you bonus geo when you kill enemies
warped sinew
U could make a charm that gives you damage based on geo. That's kinda cool
So you can grind damage up
buoyant obsidian
Yeah I was thinking that for the less skilled players
warped sinew
Like 1000 geo = 1 nail damage
Or something
Its fun and can become broken but only after spending time on it
buoyant obsidian
Yeah I like the idea of having something ridiculous
I want it to be flashy though I wanna learn how to spawn money
buoyant obsidian
Yup, 4000 geo cost in the shop you finally come back for it and bam
I can make the shopkeep description "Said to hold the key to infinite riches... could it be true?
that's why I'm glad I'm using ranged weapons :)
warped sinew
How did u up damage in glass soul
warped sinew
Ah I see
buoyant obsidian
changing damage on the fly is much harder beause we don't know what updates it
since just changing the value does nothing
Kein you found that list of charms before... could you find anything similar for gameObjects?
Even a list would be nice, we could probably send events to the FSMmaker thing
Haven't tested it but this.geoSpriteFsm.SendEvent("SHATTER"); might cause a neat shatter effect every time I want to lower geo with a charm
Yup
warped sinew
Could u mod the game so that when u complete a journal entry you can now one shot those enemies? That would be cool
buoyant obsidian
Nope, we don't have access to the enemy extra damage list
buoyant obsidian
funny you mention it though, I just found out such a list exists
Holy shit I should make an RPG mod
where you slay enemies to get XP (geo) and it does something clever with the damage and stuff
buoyant obsidian
That seems quite possible
warped sinew
Could even have lvl ups