hk-discussion

[onyx basin]

yeah don't have to worry about money anymore either

[fallen compass]

indeed

[tribal compass]

I wish that there was a charm that raised your damage for the price of geo

like it actively takes your geo with each hit

and spell maybe

[onyx basin]

sly would sell that if he had that

[true jetty]

that would be op

[true jetty]

nvm

[bold belfry]

i beat her

[onyx basin]

yeah but it would turn the game into a grindfest

[wispy sky]

||rosary gun||

[tribal compass]

Would the geo go back to him?

[onyx basin]

let's gooo

[bold belfry]

with one health

im so choped

[onyx basin]

hopefully..

[onyx basin]

heart came in clutch

[bold belfry]

fax

[worthy peak]

Reminds me of bluemoth wings in pale court... There's also another charm that I think increases damage based of current geo in pale court...

[warm aurora]

The first next hits takes all your geo and deals that as added damage

[bold belfry]

the whole clime i had 1 health

[onyx basin]

you could one shot everything bro

[bold belfry]

shoulda use heart

[warm aurora]

Ye

But the farming

[tribal compass]

I think it'd be better if it scales with your geo,

and maxxed out at some point

[onyx basin]

yeah more geo more damage

[worthy peak]

But then you waste it on a squit

[onyx basin]

canon event

[bold belfry]

rip horney

new pfp

[onyx basin]

[bold belfry]

if they went half sibs thisa be a love story ngl

[onyx basin]

lowkey i thought they had chemistry until I realised half siblings

and then proceeded to feel like shit for the rest of the day

[bold belfry]

new pfp

[umbral night]

The first game is about ghost soloing hallownest

[bold belfry]

witch one is better?

[sweet blaze]

which game?

[onyx basin]

this one def

[umbral night]

This one is better in my humble opinion

[bold belfry]

damb stright

[wispy sky]

p5 is quite literally that

[umbral night]

True

[bold belfry]

i didnt get any % for beating radince

[sweet blaze]

indeed

[onyx basin]

yeah it's not a percentage

[bold belfry]

y?

[tribal compass]

I dont want to imagine how genes work in hk

[sweet blaze]

cuz
it isnt

[umbral night]

I meant hk

[onyx basin]

ask tc lmao

[sweet blaze]

whut

[bold belfry]

what do i do now?

[tribal compass]

p5 ab

[wispy sky]

pantheons

[umbral night]

What percent u at

[warm aurora]

Both games are great, I cant choose a favorite

[onyx basin]

eh human like if I'm not wrong

[bold belfry]

102

[warm aurora]

But I want godhome in sk

[umbral night]

Mhm

[bold belfry]

%

[onyx basin]

you still have a shit ton to do

[bold belfry]

yh what?

[umbral night]

You got a bit more to do

[warm aurora]

Waterways

[keen thorn]

I can
HK has godhome

[onyx basin]

pantheons, colos etc.

[warm aurora]

:O

[bold belfry]

i mean i could try do ngk but i have to get the anoying little shits balls

[tribal compass]

Can you make baby-shells, before fueling them with an eldritch being that predates time and the mountains above it?

[onyx basin]

that's a percentage iirc

[umbral night]

Yea

[bold belfry]

whats iirc?

[onyx basin]

yeah probably

[umbral night]

If i remember correctly

[onyx basin]

if i remember correctly

[tribal compass]

if I remember correctly

[warm aurora]

Iirc

[bold belfry]

thx

[tribal compass]

Knowledge is power

[wispy sky]

pantheons are
1% each right

[warm aurora]

Except p5

[tribal compass]

except p5

[warm aurora]

Yes

[onyx basin]

not p5

[wispy sky]

yeah

[true jetty]

can we talk abt hk appartments again?

[warm aurora]

Our first response was to name the odd one out

3 times

[tribal compass]

great minds think alike

[silver fjord]

I beat the hollow knight :D

[onyx basin]

agreed it shall be a very fruitful conversation

[tribal compass]

blessed by gorb we Re

[warm aurora]

Nice
Now the game gets even better

[onyx basin]

ASCEND ASCEND ASCEND WITH GORB

[tribal compass]

Congratulations!

[bold belfry]

path of pain mabye?

[true jetty]

can i buy a houcse in crystal peaks

[warm aurora]

Thats no %

[onyx basin]

not a percentage but I'd def recommend it

[warm aurora]

Yes

[onyx basin]

nope, it's a mine sadly

[bold belfry]

wtfn?

[silver fjord]

wait so when I go back into the game the hollow knight is still there do I just leave and do the other stuff

[tropic nest]

yes

[true jetty]

all urs?

[onyx basin]

yep do the other stuff

[tribal compass]

They are more like miner huts, which in real life correspond to buildings created for workers to live close to a worksite

[silver fjord]

ok :)

[warm aurora]

How about apartment in the hive

[onyx basin]

yes all mine, I'm a bigshot ceo who extorts all the myla bugs

[tribal compass]

so, in peak of hallownest you'd have to be a miner and now you could just live there

[true jetty]

i work there for a living... minig crystals

[tribal compass]

Be a bee.

[onyx basin]

😄

[bold belfry]

what the best station 2 travle to to get to watterways?

[true jetty]

damn... elon righ there

[warm aurora]

I like storerooms

[umbral night]

Kings/City storerooms

[dusky coral]

I'd say king's station

[warm aurora]

But most would say kings

[dusky coral]

I absolutely despise storerooms

Because of all the braavaas you have to get through

[onyx basin]

yep now give me all your money
talking to me requires a fee
i must go to Mars again

[warm aurora]

I despise kings against this stereotype

Idk how to word that better

[true jetty]

but the houses near stags cost more for the convenience

[tribal compass]

I would love to live in greenpath, though Im not sure they have housing

[onyx basin]

true i didn't think of that

[warm aurora]

Does the knight technically have an appartment in mantis village treasure room

[true jetty]

yea i sont think they exist

[umbral night]

I would too

[warm aurora]

Sheo moment

[onyx basin]

live inside the big mossies

[true jetty]

dirtmouth houses are expensive...

[warm aurora]

Free big pet

[tribal compass]

Sounds comfy

[onyx basin]

nah elderbug gives them for free prolly

[true jetty]

u should live in the white palace

[warm aurora]

sets up illegal tent

[onyx basin]

too many buzzsaws I'm gonna die

[true jetty]

yes fr

[tribal compass]

Even if he didnt I dont see him carrying a sword.

[heavy vale]

who living in fog canyon with me that'd be sick to have a jelly house there. otherwise deepnest would also be peak

[true jetty]

o yea

[warm aurora]

A scammer

[onyx basin]

what kinda monster would hurt elderbug

[true jetty]

why deep nest

[heavy vale]

deepnest is cool

[tribal compass]

500 Ooma

[true jetty]

execute him

[tribal compass]

Me

[heavy vale]

yippee

[onyx basin]

deepnest?

[true jetty]

nosk...

[onyx basin]

agreed

[tribal compass]

As long as its east deepnest, not west deepnest

[warm aurora]

Yup

[onyx basin]

even east deepnest is horrible living conditions

[true jetty]

but the bugs

[true jetty]

yea

[heavy vale]

deepnest looks fun though

[tribal compass]

BUGS ARE EVERYWHERE

[true jetty]

sleeping with bugs isnt

[true jetty]

yea ik

[heavy vale]

eh spiders are fun and there are already lots of spiders in my room irl

[onyx basin]

man you are one dangerous person

[true jetty]

r u the guy who tried to harm elder bug

[warm aurora]

That almost has a different meaning in this world

[onyx basin]

kill em

[bold belfry]

charms 4 p1

or any p

[tribal compass]

Perchance

[true jetty]

i did...

[onyx basin]

yep this is good
heart for twister won't be bad tho

[warm aurora]

I'd replace heart
It only works when you have 1 or 2 hp or when you are low and cant heal
But you want to be able to heal otherwise you cant beat p4

[tribal compass]

You could sleep in Galliens resting place

[onyx basin]

oh yeah that would be a peak spot

[warm aurora]

Free lifeblood

[true jetty]

Ohhhh yeaaaahhhh

[true jetty]

but u have to kill em first

[tribal compass]

I wonder how it tastes like

[bold belfry]

this?

[warm aurora]

Yes

[tribal compass]

Not really

[heavy vale]

hell yeah

[celest vigil]

OH SHIT I BEAT SLY SECOND TRY 🔥

[warm aurora]

Wut

[onyx basin]

nah he chill as hell

[celest vigil]

im so good

[warm aurora]

Crazy

[tribal compass]

Well done!

[onyx basin]

goated

[heavy vale]

oh good job :)

fuck typo

[bold belfry]

o yay

[celest vigil]

ohh godseeker mode

[warm aurora]

Did you end up expecting it to be sly once you first got there?

[bold belfry]

hehe

[celest vigil]

no

[onyx basin]

jeez are u thinking straight

[celest vigil]

"pantheon of the knight"

ts doesnt sound promising

[tribal compass]

Which p is it?

[onyx basin]

told him it was the radiance lmaoo

[bold belfry]

p1 lol

[tropic nest]

1, from the description

[heavy vale]

best of luck & it really isnt as hard as people assume it is trust me

[warm aurora]

Its a little redundant rn given you already have a good endgame file but it does have every boss (except one) already unlocked, including the p4 final boss, which I suggest you dont spoil yourself

[celest vigil]

tbf i didnt believe that

[tribal compass]

Easy enough

[onyx basin]

true

[warm aurora]

Its final boss is hard but my personal favorite

[tribal compass]

Im trying to beat p3 on all bindings but I hate how the bosses stall the fight and I lose focus and die

[onyx basin]

my fav as well

[tropic nest]

collector or zote

[tribal compass]

Collector

[celest vigil]

sisters of battle i assume

anyways

[tropic nest]

cyclone one ticks every summon

[warm aurora]

I will spoil it is not

[tribal compass]

Assuming makes an ass out of ming

[onyx basin]

sisters of battle is... not that hard imo

[heavy vale]

agree

[celest vigil]

i just realised

I only have 8 masks

[tribal compass]

Oh thats a good idea! Im too used to not using nail arts

[onyx basin]

just a faster mantis lords

[warm aurora]

One of 5 hk bosses I first tried

[onyx basin]

shouldn't you have 9?

[molten yoke]

Also agree

[onyx basin]

same first tried

[tribal compass]

True, I loved watching that mod where you fight them + traitor lord since the difficulty scales up a lot

[warm aurora]

You should get 9, they also count to completion

[warm aurora]

Still lost 1 run to them

[celest vigil]

yes

but i thought i had 9

[onyx basin]

eh happens to everyone

[warm aurora]

Gruz mother costed me a run

[onyx basin]

how many shards u missing?

[celest vigil]

uhh let me check

2

[onyx basin]

same lmaoo
I've died more to gruz mother than sisters of battle

[tribal compass]

My pc for some reason lags on room of mantis lords sometimes and hollow knight room on beta version

[warm aurora]

Lol
Both 1 for me
(But 3 to traitorlord is kinda embarrasing)

[onyx basin]

hmm
maybe try searching the wiki if u can't manage to figure out where they may be

[tribal compass]

Happens to the best of us

[bold belfry]

false knight is ez i no hit him

[warm aurora]

No eyes doesnt let me heal and then I have 2 hp

[onyx basin]

nah traitor lord takes some getting used to

[tribal compass]

What about failed champion?

[celest vigil]

fuck failed champion dude

[warm aurora]

Shaman spell twister and immediately spam spells

[tribal compass]

Its easiest to heal on the bottom

[bold belfry]

im in panthoen

[celest vigil]

anyways time to go and search

[tribal compass]

Its easy once you realise how he works, like.... every other boss, I suppose

[onyx basin]

good luck man

[warm aurora]

Well I have since done it
I ended up adding dcrest to my build for that segment to make Lost Kin more consistent and have high hp into no eyes

[onyx basin]

dream wielder is especially good against him

[tribal compass]

What does it do?

[warm aurora]

I heared that

[celest vigil]

i also realised im missing 9 charms

but whatever

[onyx basin]

increases soul gain from dream nail plus makes it faster

[warm aurora]

Apparantly lets you dnail when he isnt staggered

[tribal compass]

Ah.

[warm aurora]

Which sounds very strong

[onyx basin]

get insane soul and shriek him into oblivion

[tribal compass]

It doesnt sound strong at all

[warm aurora]

Tho I already have plenty of soul in his fight

Especially when he is after a spa

[onyx basin]

trust me it is
killed him in like 15 sec once

[tribal compass]

I just jump under him and get away once he smashes the ground

since he telegraphs his attacks consistently

[bold belfry]

pov me doing malek with 1 healt

[warm aurora]

Phase 1 in p4 I spellspam and in p5 I just actually fight
Phase 2 and 3 is 3 shrieks after the stagger and he dies

[onyx basin]

yeah his patterns are pretty consistent

[bold belfry]

man wtf i died enstinly

[warm aurora]

Instantly

I also died to them in my last p1ab run

[tribal compass]

As long as it works

[onyx basin]

well u only had 1 mask

[warm aurora]

Meant to correct the message above it

[tribal compass]

All good, nothing wrong with a little chat exp farming

[warm aurora]

True

Tho I have the message requirements long already

[tribal compass]

I also cleared out the graveyard thing and training my parries was very entertaining

[warm aurora]

I havent done that

[tribal compass]

do parries cancel the whole attack?

[warm aurora]

No

Just give I frames

Idk exactly how it works

[tribal compass]

Its a bit tedious with minimal reward, leaving you only with feelings of emptyness

[onyx basin]

there's a really interesting yt vid on it

[warm aurora]

I have done all the white defender and zote rematches

[tribal compass]

I should give it a watch

[warm aurora]

Talking about overworld completion

[fallow grotto]

let us cheer for the team cherry together

[onyx basin]

tho parries are very inconsistent in hk and not worth it

[onyx basin]

it's something like 'no one in the hk community understands parries'

[tribal compass]

It only applies to certain attacks which are typically too fast to react to with anything else than a dodge,

[onyx basin]

yeah like in pv or nkg sometimes

[tribal compass]

True, and they both have different attack speeds so you would have to go out of your way to train parrying just for them

[warm aurora]

Can I send vids here?
I can see if I can find it

[onyx basin]

i believe yes

[onyx basin]

true

[warm aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFhVITp7BjU

[onyx basin]

Yes this one

[tribal compass]

Nice

[true jetty]

yea not like he gonna get 2 shoted

[tropic nest]

with extra context by people smarter than me

[bold belfry]

fuck

i died to shit man

[warm aurora]

Ah

[keen thorn]

Oh no not that video

[onyx basin]

well guys i gtg
it was really nice talking to yall

byeee

[bold belfry]

fuck im so bad at the game

[ebon depot]

I remember this video, i didnt like it but i dont remember why

[tribal compass]

Adieu

[tribal compass]

Practice makes perfect

[keen thorn]

Because the guy also doesn't understand parries

[bold belfry]

bruh not with hk its all luck with hk

[keen thorn]

Like why is backwards parry a category of parries

[tribal compass]

Because it can be done backwards

[ebon depot]

Yeah im just looking through it, mostly looks like hes just making up random categories of stuff you can do with parries to claim the community somehow "doesnt understand them"

[tribal compass]

Uh, maybe a little luck, but not all that's for sure

[raw sonnet]

no

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[tribal compass]

Im starting to get a semi-perfect-firm grip on how they work

[true jetty]

yea i hate that shit man

[ebon depot]

Theyre a pretty simple mechanic theyre just not worth it from a risk-reward standpoint generally speaking

[keen thorn]

Oh yeah all luck
https://youtu.be/-_63E4RwdDQ?si=sgQpcUtdQuolkWRW

[tribal compass]

Yeah, its safer to just dodge and deal damage on a different opportunity

[empty lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1499807280433205428/The_Grulector.jpeg?ex=69f623e0&is=69f4d260&hm=8541936e1c16c501999370f502e315be3fcc094322f5e433fcd4d0d18b9887d1&

[tribal compass]

I could see it being useful in speedruns maybe

[tribal compass]

Find all the collectors

[bold belfry]

what have u done?

[karmic niche]

dude abs rad is hard

[empty lynx]

eat shit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1499807574390997082/Grosk.jpeg?ex=69f62426&is=69f4d2a6&hm=b274a7638a5e2313efe1d530b32913fcea59e45353cc2cda359f590764f347bc&

[karmic niche]

i have beat it twice

[bold belfry]

man wtf

[karmic niche]

all just luck

[ebon depot]

Still such an absolutely ridiculous run even 2 years later

[tawdry bolt]

how many people have done r045 so far?

[strong skiff]

2?

[bold belfry]

man fuck them ablobles

[true jetty]

how lon0g have u been playin

[raw sonnet]

how is that possible

[raw sonnet]

radiant version?

[ebon depot]

I know about nimdac and wjlff, so 2 i think

[tribal compass]

Is this person real?

[strong skiff]

Has te ano not done it
3

[bold belfry]

to anlock a pantheon do i need to beat all the bosses in it?

[ebon depot]

I do not think he has

He has done abn0wsnnanma but that wasnt hitless

[true jetty]

i THINK so

[bold belfry]

man fuck me

i hate my skill

[strong skiff]

Are we fucking serious with these acronyms man

[tribal compass]

I wonder if I can get a 20h speedrun on my 4 hour run with all skills unlocked

[tawdry bolt]

I saw a channel on youtube named mintmoth that also did and I thought Teano did too, so maybe 3-4, still crazy to think how difficult it is

[ebon depot]

[tropic nest]

mintmoth is nimdac

[strong skiff]

Nimdac=mintmoth

Snail

[tawdry bolt]

ah ok

[worthy peak]

kind of there are quite a few exceptions though

[true jetty]

u beat abs rad

[strong skiff]

For unlocking pantheons?
Isnt there like 3

[ebon depot]

Idk what you mean roma this is completely valid acronym syntax smh, anyway I think teano probanly got distracted by itemless so he hasnt grinded it i guess

[strong skiff]

I can only remember 1

[worthy peak]

exception list includes, godtamer, all dream bosses, P5 exclusives and final bosses.

[empty lynx]

you have to be consistent at every fight which can be 4-10 minutes long.

even how much the time is optimized sounds pretty insane

[bold belfry]

ummm well its not letting me into p3 cus i dont have elder hu and galin

[tropic nest]

dream bosses, not dream warriors

[strong skiff]

Ab n0 white spells no nail arts no major acronyms idek
Like can we not just say p045

Or sonething

[ebon depot]

Blame teano for adding so many challenges

[empty lynx]

rabononnanma

[worthy peak]

Yeah... I wish it was easier to make clear dream warriors didnt count in dream bosses....

[ebon depot]

Nma stands for no movement abilities

[strong skiff]

Buh

[inner flicker]

Mmm hallowcake of panestheon

[strong skiff]

Is that just itemless + white spells

[empty lynx]

genuinely just say itemless

[strong skiff]

Ab

[true jetty]

i hate galien

[empty lynx]

what's nimdac btw

[bold belfry]

same

[strong skiff]

A player

[ebon depot]

Its not itemless tho

[empty lynx]

Mintmoth did r045 twice?

[strong skiff]

How is iabws worse than abn0wsnnanma😭

[inner flicker]

Whenimechainthesumma

[strong skiff]

Hey you can rearrange that to isab w

[empty lynx]

TRUE

[ebon depot]

Because it doesnt work smh, i and ws are mutually exclusive

[wind canyon]

is hiveblood good

[empty lynx]

only for parkour

[raw sonnet]

for pop yes

[ebon depot]

If he did he didnt post the second one

[strong skiff]

Add a + in the middle
Yk what im talking about

[raw sonnet]

only if youre begginer at platforming

[wind canyon]

what abt pantheons

[worthy peak]

I wonder what wierd challenges i could reasonably do quickly...

[raw sonnet]

no

[inner flicker]

Only for parkour he said

[worthy peak]

not worth notch cost

[raw sonnet]

and it also takes alot of notches

[worthy peak]

if it were 2 notches i could see it

[empty lynx]

If you are good enough to consistently dodge for it to heal overtime you are just better off using way better offensive or defensive charms

[worthy peak]

but 4 is like just to much...

[empty lynx]

quick focus would be the better pick and it's 3 notches

[wind canyon]

4 is quite a lot

[strong skiff]

Wait does this also allow dreamnail

[inner flicker]

We all know P5 soul eater Joni’s blessing and hiveblood overcharm is the best combo oat

[empty lynx]

Charm would've been fine if it was more than one mask

[ebon depot]

I would assume so

[wind canyon]

botswana

[muted egret]

20 seconds to heal btw

[inner flicker]

Just get good tbh

Like hornet says

[celest vigil]

okay guys

i have to go into deepnest

ITS SO OVER

[inner flicker]

Git gud!

[ebon depot]

I dont like it syntactically, ill accept shortening to 04nnanma iirc

[muted egret]

Honestly sounds more like 'geck gooh' than git gud

[ebon depot]

Anything more we gotta take it up with teano to stop making up these challenges

[inner flicker]

Yeah I never thought it sounded like git gud

More accurate, but it’s for the meme

[strong skiff]

Idk i feel like "everything but i dont have 2 million things" is better than "nothing but i have a thing"

[inner flicker]

Garama
Shaw
Adeera
Egale
Haw
Geh guh

Sounds I fall asleep to

[muted egret]

*Hegale, no?

[raw sonnet]

had a such good beginning but sold again in the 3rd section https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/mCERM20RbDWtOzVQ3?invite=cr-MSxyb2MsNTk3MDI3MjAy

[inner flicker]

It doesn’t make that big of difference I don’t think

[ebon depot]

True, but i personally do not like stating my challenge as something it isnt even when thats just used for shortening, like saying itemless + this and this feels weird to me personally because it isnt itemless and I wouldnt like to have it called that even just in relation because I havent done that yknow what I mean, personal preference ofcourse

[muted egret]

People spelling the sounds differs anyway when considering accents and languages.

[strong skiff]

Yeah of course
I just want to not spend 20 seconds descipering what im reading

[inner flicker]

Too many abbreviations just beat P5ab with base knight

[strong skiff]

Thats itemless

And not even ab or r

Mb i blanked ab

[inner flicker]

it’s alr

[strong skiff]

Still could be ascended with mods

[ebon depot]

Yeah makes sense, but if you wanna talk about that lets start with 0 being indescipherable because it just assumes you know whitespells is included

[tribal compass]

Did anyone try beating p5 with just an old sword and nothing else?

or defenders crest

[ebon depot]

Hk 0 abbreviation being terrible discussion my beloved

[strong skiff]

Oh i never said hk acronums are good or something
You just cant tell me i+ws is harder to read than whatever we had at the start

[quartz cave]

at sign te ano have u done defenders crest only p5

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[strong skiff]

At sihg mango yt

[ebon depot]

Ah, no ofcourse its definitely easier to read, i just prefer only stating exactly what was done

[quartz cave]

is that itemless white spells

[ebon depot]

Yes

[quartz cave]

hk acronym literacy ♥️

[strong skiff]

^

[strong skiff]

Read the second one gng

[quartz cave]

all bindings nail 0 white spells no nailarts no major alitches

[strong skiff]

Exactlyy

[ebon depot]

Are yall newgens or smth trynna tell me yall cant read that smh

[strong skiff]

Wtf is nma😭

Thats like the rarest acronym

[quartz cave]

what is nma fr

[foggy sable]

no movement abilities

[ebon depot]

No movement abilities smh no one knows that because no one does that challenge besides teano

[quartz cave]

ok but why

would u use that

[foggy sable]

idk itemless sucks

[quartz cave]

thats like such a pick me move

[strong skiff]

Ok lowkey

[tribal compass]

So no dash and no wings?

and no claw?

[quartz cave]

cdash too :gleeful:

[strong skiff]

Just rename that bullshit to te ano p5

Problem solved

[quartz cave]

can you beat bosses without moving

[strong skiff]

Some

[ebon depot]

Yall gotta shrimply up the abbreviation game very readable fr fr

[quartz cave]

or like i mean just jumping up and down

[tribal compass]

Sounds easy, Im gonna attempt that that

[proud haven]

I usually do that

[ebon depot]

Ive done pv with no left and right arrow keys does that count

[quartz cave]

i have the world record for moveless nailless spellless gruzmother AMA!

[strong skiff]

It would ellimate the readebillity problem
And noone would just bother figuring out what it means

And it sounds cool

Only positives

[quartz cave]

:gleeful:

#hk-discussion message

[tribal compass]

How did you avoid his circle spell attack?

[quartz cave]

how..

[quartz cave]

close enuf

[ebon depot]

Im with you, problem is tho, teano is too good, if i hear teano p5 im thinking itemless now since hes done that

[strong skiff]

How "just"
And yeah i bet you can,if you only ban dash (cdash) and arrow keys

Ddark,parries,jumps,heals? Free

[quartz cave]

yeah everything is allowed except horisontal movement

[ebon depot]

Spell stalling after a wings jump and dashing out iirc, its been 4 or 5 years i do not 100% remember

[quartz cave]

but ig attacks and parries do move you cause of knockback..

same with fireball

[strong skiff]

Ig thankfully the acronym isnt real

[quartz cave]

so only up and down pogos, shriek, ddark

[tribal compass]

Ah, I see

[strong skiff]

And getting hit?

[quartz cave]

if u wanna make it harder sure

but i think those are enuf handicaps for a humble player like me,

[strong skiff]

Why harder
If not you'd have to reset

[quartz cave]

huh

[strong skiff]

If getting hit is banned

[ebon depot]

If you want to know exactly how ive got it uploaded https://youtu.be/2DZd2xPmoJU?is=Vx_k1aIC29oQJCOe self promotion my beloved

[strong skiff]

Thats just radiant

Hitless

[ebon depot]

My thumbnail game was on-point back in the day goddamn

[quartz cave]

yes? i dont know what youre tryna say 🐊

hitless is harder than not hitless

[strong skiff]

So im asking whether your challange allows getting hit

[quartz cave]

wtf horisontal movement detected what a CHUD

[worthy peak]

!wiki obloblles

[strong skiff]

😭😭😭😭

[quartz cave]

are you planning on doing it

[worthy peak]

!wiki oblobbles...

[foggy sable]

I think you need to spell it better

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Oblobbles
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page oblobbles... for a direct link.

[proud haven]

"Instant Death Wave" + "Time Traveling Invincible Forcefield"

[worthy peak]

it was one letter

[strong skiff]

Lmao bot fucking shrugging is so funny

[quartz cave]

👨‍🦲

[strong skiff]

[[Oblobbles]]

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Oblobbles

[worthy peak]

okay 300 health difference each...

[quartz cave]

discord bots shitting themselves at the most minor inconvenience:

[ebon depot]

Ah shit i didnt crop out me moving to the statue well also dashing but its not possible without it

[strong skiff]

No

[quartz cave]

then it isnt hitless

[quartz cave]

i meant the dashing grr

[strong skiff]

You can totally do p5 like that surely

[quartz cave]

how do u do plats for radiance

[strong skiff]

Ohh

Just get hit

[quartz cave]

or like dodge nkg pillars

[ebon depot]

I had no choice its not doable dashless

[quartz cave]

if theres a will theres a way

[strong skiff]

Stallwart and bank up soul,surely

[quartz cave]

stop making excuses imo smh my head

[winter jackal]

I'm genuinely going to crash out

this game is so damn annoying

[strong skiff]

I mean at this point

Also baldur and carefree

[quartz cave]

bald and hairfree

[strong skiff]

LOL

[quartz cave]

nhm anyrad

[strong skiff]

Yeah absrad without horizontal is curious

Tas would do it

[worthy peak]

ew baldur...

[ebon depot]

Actually maybe it is , eater weaversong qs sbody might work if you get lucky enough

[quartz cave]

why do u need dash

[strong skiff]

I was gonna say you could bank up lifeblood but that would require hitless pv

[ebon depot]

Pillars mostly

[strong skiff]

And absrsd up to a point

[quartz cave]

i forgot pv has a pillar attack lol

nothingburger boss 💔

[ebon depot]

His dash also ends with him standing right where you are sometimes

[strong skiff]

At genio go do absrad without moving

Horizontally

[leaden dawn]

Guys when replaying hk I killed soul master first try compared to my 20 something tries the first time,do yall think I can first try broken vessel with less charms n stuff too?

Ok thanks for the motivation

[quartz cave]

u got this twin

[leaden dawn]

Trust

[inner flicker]

I think just to challenge myself I want to do ascended hall of gods on the godseeker file without charms
For radiant I’m absolutely overcharming tho

[dry creek]

hi gang

[worthy peak]

why stop just without charms... just add spellless too...

[inner flicker]

I barely use spells anyways

[dry creek]

use them more

[inner flicker]

I will start doing that

[dry creek]

yay

[inner flicker]

I do still use them, just not very often

[dry creek]

yeah i figured

i used to struggle with that

i heart abyss shriek

[inner flicker]

Best spell tbh

[dry creek]

my favorite is vengeful spirit tho

like regular vengeful spirit

just because skips and stallballs

[inner flicker]

You can’t do that with shade cloak?

[worthy peak]

no healing then...

[inner flicker]

Or wait shade soul

[dry creek]

cant do stallballs with shade soul

tou can do reg fireball skips with shade soul tho

[worthy peak]

cause it goes through walls.

[inner flicker]

Aren’t those really hard anyways

Or am I thinking of something else

[dry creek]

theyre not if its a consistent stallball

so its basically just vsync doing its work

theyre not too hard to me at least

i used them in a rando

oh yeah but shriek has shrogo... ughhh i love shrogo

[inner flicker]

I’ve never done speedrun skips but I’ve watched skurry so I get how to do them

[dry creek]

skurry is peak

[inner flicker]

I love slurry

Skurry

Autocorrect stupid

Ok gtg!

[dry creek]

toodles

[worthy peak]

use it for cdashless damageless acn

[dry creek]

acn?

srry im not too caught up on terms

[worthy peak]

kingdoms edge's acid skip

[dry creek]

ohhh right

yeah makes sense

and that white palace skip too

[keen thorn]

Yes

[dry creek]

that white palace skip is so peak

[keen thorn]

Yes

[worthy peak]

Its a stupid waste of soul cause its like slower and harder and if you have abyss shriek why are you back in kingdoms edge...

I guess markoth might be justification...

[dry creek]

rando probably

[keen thorn]

No. He doesn't want to

[strong skiff]

Summoned by godhome

Do we have a clip of pythonball

[dry creek]

guys hear me out.. low% 112% where you get 112% with the lowest completion % possible /j

[celest vigil]

quick question, do you get a mask shard by doing the flower delivery thing?

[dry creek]

yes

[strong skiff]

We do not

[naive dew]

@keen thorn @strong skiff

[celest vigil]

oh come on 💔

[worthy peak]

Took me far too long to get the joke...

[dim lance]

[dry creek]

lmaoo

[celest vigil]

AND i gotta defeat grey prince zote for a mask shard, bro

[dry creek]

no you dont

[celest vigil]

what

[dry creek]

its just in brettas room for free

[celest vigil]

oh right

i forgot about that

[dry creek]

you only need gpz if you want a lot of essence

[torn bramble]

Gpz in Brett's house is super easy

I beat him 2nd try

[dry creek]

i beat him first try but the last fight im pretty sure is a lot harder

[torn bramble]

Well yeah

They get progressively harder. The 9th time you fight him he does 8 masks of damage.

I think the one in godhome is like the 3rd time you fight him in Brettas house

[dry creek]

yeah it is

[torn bramble]

Makes sense. Cause he still only does one mask, but can summon those exploding zotes

[dry creek]

but gpz in bretta's house is objectively harder than gpz by himself in HoG

[torn bramble]

After his 3rd fight?

[dry creek]

if youre doing all of them, ofc

[torn bramble]

Ok, yeah, of course lol

[odd pewter]

And for the fourth time, Bretta leaves Hallownest 🙁

[torn bramble]

I never fought him enough.

[odd pewter]

That's why I beat him 3 times

[torn bramble]

But what happens to zote once bretta leaves?

Does he just stand there talking to nothing? Or does he leave as well?

[indigo grail]

He keeps yapping, but to no one

[torn bramble]

Oh. Lol

That's funny

[frozen storm]

Hello y'all

[dry creek]

[torn bramble]

Hey Gui!

[dry creek]

yo

[strong skiff]

Genio is absrad without human horizontal movement possible
Fireball,dash cdash and sideslashes are banned

[odd pewter]

schizophrenia.

[empty lynx]

the first gpz is very slow, only has the flies, and no bombs. So that's fair

[sick mica]

hiya gui, do u remember me?

[frozen storm]

How are you doing?

[empty lynx]

second one only adds spiders

[keen thorn]

Is walking allowed?

[dry creek]

im good! wbu?

[strong skiff]

No

[frozen storm]

Yes, but not because of good stuff

[empty lynx]

third one adds bombs but they only do 1 damage, gpz is much faster

[sick mica]

huh?

[keen thorn]

There is a roof on your head you can't climb

[sick mica]

what did i do?

[frozen storm]

Spamming ai slop

[torn bramble]

Well, all the bosses are fair if you get good. No pun intended, Im serious.

[strong skiff]

Can you not get hit by beems or void

[dry creek]

ew.

[frozen storm]

Hello luri

[empty lynx]

debatable. Correct for the most part

[dry creek]

btw hi luri

[frozen storm]

Doing good

[empty lynx]

omg @frozen storm @frozen storm hiiiiiiii also @dry creek hiiii

[sick mica]

OOH I REMEMBER THAT yh i didnt relise it was ai im drry bout that

[frozen storm]

Also hello genio and Roma

[keen thorn]

If you somehow manage to get to the last platform you can do that
But second to last may as well just be impossible

[dry creek]

hiiiiiiiiiii!! ^_^

[keen thorn]

To tank everything you will need hiveblood grubsong deep focus

[frozen storm]

You need an AI detecting course

[torn bramble]

Well, I guess you could argue that markoth is unfair. But honestly, he's just a pushover now in ascended.

[keen thorn]

And that takes a while of not getting hit

[empty lynx]

oh iam not talking about markoth

[sick mica]

i have a new dance gif its not ai

[keen thorn]

Oh btw Roma

[torn bramble]

What then?

[keen thorn]

R04 CC may be a thing

[torn bramble]

Every other boss seems completely fair

[strong skiff]

Thats kinds why im asking you if its possible
Tas only?
Or is the second to last platfrom too tall
Im wondering if you can wings to bring the void up and get hit

[strong skiff]

Holy

[frozen storm]

Stop being a masochist

[keen thorn]

I can't

[frozen storm]

Ping me when the video releases btw

[dry creek]

what does cc mean

[frozen storm]

Champions call

[dry creek]

ohhh

[keen thorn]

If RAB CC NO happens and I like it, I will do R04 CC over the summer

[dry creek]

lmao good luck

[empty lynx]

https://youtu.be/VAGAxU_THOg?si=1RFVvPvMACuCEt5b
this wouldn't count considering it's a bugged attack but apparently it's happening to like almost every good player i know lmao

[wispy sky]

isnt cc the thing from pale
court

[keen thorn]

Yeah, it's just too much horizontal I don't think you can luck out the entire way if you're not TAS

[empty lynx]

which is why i said "debatable" not "that's just wrong"

[keen thorn]

Even being low 10 seconds is a lot of time

[wispy sky]

pale court is crazy hard

[dry creek]

i feel like it didnt do tiso justice :/

[torn bramble]

Ah, yeah. I wouldn't count glitches.

[dry creek]

he just doesnt look that fun

[keen thorn]

Why does this have a ad

[wispy sky]

tiso?

[empty lynx]

our girl is actually locking in

[dry creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-tiso-hollow-knight-tiso-gif-21111374

tiso

[frozen storm]

Because YouTube sucks probably

[torn bramble]

The backer that paid for tiso to be put in the game didn't want him to become a boss. Sad.

[wispy sky]

why tiso in pale
court

[dry creek]

:/

[strong skiff]

Idk im thinkong about it too much,its an interresting theoretical
Can you use like baldur and carefree and ddark and lifeblood and stallwart and hiveblood and elegy and deep focus to make it
Obviously not all at once. Some minimal arrangement of it

Would it be end of p5 only and like up to there you do r5
Or you'd only need the last lifeblood and hitless pv
And so on

[keen thorn]

Hiveblood + deep focus + Grubsong is 9 notches so no room for elegy
You will lose soul here but this is the slowest possible way to lose soul to 2 damage attacks.
So you can't ddark, that's way worse

For climb

[umbral night]

Getting better slowly

[keen thorn]

Btw this too
https://youtu.be/bLoOxmEQDd4?t=782

[strong skiff]

-# actual asnwer is,some quite long while ago youtube added ads to channels that dont have monitization. And takes all the mkney for it. If you then turn on monotization,you get the usual pay

[frozen storm]

Roma where did that come from in the first place?

This is such a random hypothetical question

[strong skiff]

Osbald idea

[wispy sky]

why did you do that cyclone slash

[keen thorn]

I know, my channel has ads
But only in like, 300+ views videos
R5, P5AB, RS1, RAB Marmu ()

[frozen storm]

Why am I not surprised

[strong skiff]

.

[umbral night]

Fall faster

[keen thorn]

That has 120 something

[keen thorn]

Bald
I almost did NKG like this back in the day
Died at 44 hp

[foggy sable]

ew I lost a run to broken vessel

[keen thorn]

But I allowed myself nail knockback

[frozen storm]

What are you running?

[foggy sable]

it was p5ab

[frozen storm]

How?

[foggy sable]

but broken vessel of all fights

[wispy sky]

bv is literally just spam nail and shade soul

[keen thorn]

Just P5AB??????

[foggy sable]

well it was a low hit but I quit after the hit

[frozen storm]

Grey what are the handicaps

[foggy sable]

instead of finishing the attempt

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[foggy sable]

like, not r5ab because I would have continued on a hit to galien for example

[frozen storm]

That's just ragequitting

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[keen thorn]

https://youtu.be/TMxmTnsJ77k?si=4bVbQ43ZyWRAOmYw

[foggy sable]

anyway I did rab-1no broken vessel

[torn bramble]

Did you miss the lever at the end? Or had you already pressed it?

[foggy sable]

stupid acronym

[umbral night]

Already pressed

[keen thorn]

-14r no

[compact wasp]

that sounds like a pure maths equation

[torn bramble]

Ah, so you are just practicing it

[umbral night]

Yeah

Just platforming practice

[compact wasp]

also ello grey

[umbral night]

Except the last two rooms, i probably got a sub 2 minute time
But the last two rooms are the hardest

[foggy sable]

hiiiii

[foggy sable]

wait true

anyway it was 16 minutes

and revenge has been adequately got

[compact wasp]

also how long does a normal p5ab even take?

in total?

[foggy sable]

for who

for me? like 55 minutes nowadays

[compact wasp]

just for someone who has never done it before

[tropic nest]

probably ~70-75 minutes first clear

[foggy sable]

for a first clear like 75 minutes

[tropic nest]

mine was 1:14:00

[compact wasp]

no wonder it is that exhausting

[strong skiff]

What the FUCK does that mean

[foggy sable]

1 nail damage radiant nail only

ab

[compact wasp]

No.

honestly though charm binding is the only reason why all bindings is hard

[strong skiff]

Im not even gonna say anything

[compact wasp]

everything else is manageable

makes me wonder how would tehy handle silksong

[keen thorn]

Oh right @strong skiff

[foggy sable]

I needed it after losing a run to bv

[compact wasp]

cuz toolless hornet is not that different from fully equipped hornet

[warm aurora]

Agreed

[strong skiff]

You needed what

[foggy sable]

to do some winning

[strong skiff]

Im talking about the acronym

[foggy sable]

I hat ethe acronym

[compact wasp]

even changing health doesn't make a huge difference because going hitless just boosts your damage

[ebon depot]

r4n-1o better iirc

[strong skiff]

How does -1 mean anything reasonable

[foggy sable]

-1 is so stupid

[strong skiff]

-1 nail damage

Good job yoi'll never win

[keen thorn]

Yeah, low gear silksong is not as interesting

[foggy sable]

-1 is technically denoting 1 nail damage and white spells

[warm aurora]

That binding would not be the hardest one in sk probably

[tropic nest]

Nail level -1

[umbral night]

-1 means you take damage instead of dealing damage😂

[strong skiff]

You win when the boss gets to 1 mil hp

[foggy sable]

but that is so unintuitive

[ebon depot]

n{N} specifies nail upgrade level, so -1 means 1 behind base nail

[warm aurora]

It had something to do with 1 nail level down so 4 damage less
5-4=1

[umbral night]

Ohh

[ebon depot]

I will not accept that

[umbral night]

I see
Thanks

[warm aurora]

Its very odd tho

[ebon depot]

We do not need to imply ws into even more stuff smh

[blissful kestrel]

I JUST BEAT PANTHEON OF HALLOWNEST!!!!!!

[keen thorn]

-1 level nail
Since 0 is base nail of 5, the formula of nail damage is d(n) = 5 + 4n
So at level -1 this is 5-4=1

[compact wasp]

AYY CONGRATS

[warm aurora]

Nice

[compact wasp]

now do radiant hall of gods :3

[strong skiff]

Bro PLEASE just say 1dmg

[foggy sable]

I've called it stupid many a time

[blissful kestrel]

That’s my plan

[keen thorn]

How did I reply to myself

[compact wasp]

mhm good luck

[strong skiff]

And at what point does using spells with a 1 dmg nail make sense

[zinc iris]

Hello Genio, Grey

[ebon depot]

n0-4 are really commonly used tho, it just follows the Format

[keen thorn]

Honestly yes here
We should do -1ws

[blissful kestrel]

I’ve radianted Pure Vessel and NKG already

[compact wasp]

i don't think there's a point where it doesn't make sense

[foggy sable]

hiiiii

[strong skiff]

Idk this is just me being picky but having a 35 damage spell with a 1 dmg nail

Just have a 0 damage and a spell only

[warm aurora]

Do we need the s if nothing else uses a w

[ebon depot]

I would even argue n-1ws to follow preexisting schemas exactly but yeah

[zinc iris]

How's the r5ab grind going

[compact wasp]

the difference between r5 and R5 still confuses me

[keen thorn]

-1 is enough imo
Nothing else is -1

[frozen storm]

Actually I have a better idea

[compact wasp]

so r5 is normal p5 hitless and R5 is p5 but every boss has radiant health hitless?

[frozen storm]

Negative 1 nail damage nail only

[keen thorn]

They're the same thing

Just capitalized because why not

[compact wasp]

oh enddeous was saying they are different

[ebon depot]

I have never heard that, they should be the same thing

[strong skiff]

Would 0 dmg nail be n-2

This is stupid

[ebon depot]

No, n-2 would be -3 damage

[compact wasp]

damn, end gave me misinfo

[warm aurora]

Healing bosses

[compact wasp]

what a scammer fr

[strong skiff]

Well how would you write 0 nail damage then

[warm aurora]

-1,25

[foggy sable]

badly because it sucks and I don't do runs of it

[strong skiff]

BRO

[warm aurora]

Not

[foggy sable]

so I'm sort of in the aspiring to run it stage

[frozen storm]

That'l "R5" would be called ascended r5

[ebon depot]

True enough i just dont like introducing more edge cases/variations in formattinh then necessary

[umbral night]

This makes sense tbh
Cuz every nail upgrade increases 4 dmg

[keen thorn]

Nail -2 would be -3 damage
Remember, damage(nail level) = 5 + 4*(nail level)

[zinc iris]

Aren't u doing rabono for R5AB practice?

[foggy sable]

theoretically yes

[ebon depot]

Theres no acronym for that because no one does it

[frozen storm]

Wrong reply

[strong skiff]

Ok but -3 is not reasonable

[warm aurora]

Would that include 6 more hp flukes?
And ascended absrad arena? (Which has 1 less platform in phase 4)

[foggy sable]

but doing runs is terrible so I just get distracted

[strong skiff]

I've done that

[keen thorn]

0d idk
I've been using this sometimes

[strong skiff]

Use 1d then

[compact wasp]

why is soul tyrant such an hp sponge?

why does that dude take MONTHS to die?

[frozen storm]

I don't think absrad ascended changes anything?

[warm aurora]

Atp you would probably use a no-nail abbreviation

[keen thorn]

Because most nail damage levels are possible using combinations of strength, nail binding and level

[frozen storm]

I think normal radiance has 1 extra platform

[umbral night]

-5/4 nail level = 0 nail damage😂

[foggy sable]

because you don't know how to exploit the attack openings

[warm aurora]

Apparantly the right most platform is gone

[ebon depot]

Ok fair but its not relevant enough for one to have been made is what i meant you can make one if you want

[keen thorn]

8d is strength with old nail

[compact wasp]

how fast can you do it?

[foggy sable]

ummm reasonable fast

I'm not sure I have any timed recordings

[strong skiff]

0 dmg≠no nail tho
Still gives soul and knockback
Idk about staggers actually

[warm aurora]

Hmm

[compact wasp]

well youtube videos have a timer at the bottom. So every run is a timed recording

[frozen storm]

I think staggers work just fine

[compact wasp]

technically speaking

[keen thorn]

How did I just pull out a piece of wasp comb from my shoe

[strong skiff]

I'm just saying noting damage directly instead of encrypting it into nail levels is better

[ebon depot]

I do like 0d but it feels kinda ambigous since d intuitively feels like "damage", which includes more then just nail

[foggy sable]

I don't have any recent recordings I mean

aside from rabono but that doesn't count

[keen thorn]

Everything that is not flukenest or crest ticks can stagger

[warm aurora]

If only we could change the abbreviations

[ebon depot]

I think both are fine but I see what you mean

[umbral night]

There was once a scorpion in mine when i was a kid

[strong skiff]

You cant break things like kp doors with 0 nail damage
So idk

[frozen storm]

Can weaver song stagger?

[strong skiff]

I mean if youre confident youre right

[compact wasp]

that reminds me if you even really slightly care about it, I managed to get 4 radiant all bindings today. So I feel great.

[keen thorn]

Oh right that too

[warm aurora]

Summons can unstagger atleast

[keen thorn]

They don't have hp, they are hit counted I think

[foggy sable]

4 radiant all bindings fights?

[compact wasp]

ye

[foggy sable]

gg

which ones

[compact wasp]

absolute radiance, oro and mato, pure vessel and soul tyrant

[worthy peak]

🔥

[umbral night]

No, doors do have damage
I once saw a SvH fireborn video where he couldn't open doors cuz his nail damage was 0

[foggy sable]

oh, soul tyrant in hall of gods has a lot more hp than in pantheon so that is why

[ebon depot]

I think generally speaking nail level is easier to reason about for people that do not know the values from the top of their head, if you know the schema you know what n4 is without having to know it does 21/32 damage depending on charm loadout

[strong skiff]

I dont fully understand the messahe behind that

[compact wasp]

oh even in teh pantheons that dude ate all my lifeblood cuz I was just that bored

[warm aurora]

On attuned too?

[compact wasp]

while fighting him

[foggy sable]

well not on attuned

but on ascended and radiant

[compact wasp]

but ye absrad all bindings radiant is done

so that is awesome

[warm aurora]

Because then ascended goes up for almost every boss

[foggy sable]

almost double last phase hp, 300 or so more first phase

[umbral night]

Soul tyrant is easier than many other bosses imo
But that's because he's like one of the only ones i grinded thoroughly

[compact wasp]

zote is still harder to do than absrad for me surprisingly. That feels fundamentally wrong to me

[worthy peak]

0 nail ddamage is wierd cause i doesnt seem to give soul sometimes

[warm aurora]

Is soul tyrant up with sly phase 2 and watcher knights of biggest hp increase?

[umbral night]

Ohh

[warm aurora]

Hmm

[zinc iris]

Understandable

[worthy peak]

source. I was tring anyrad final with no nail damage and it didnt give me soul

[strong skiff]

Yeah no im fine with n0-4 i just dislike -1
And you also would not have to look at charms if using the direct notation which is kinda cool

[worthy peak]

why it did that i have no idea...

[warm aurora]

I think I have heared this before tho

[foggy sable]

but of the runs I am doing it seems a bit better

[warm aurora]

About soul at 0 damage

[foggy sable]

collector is better, most of the earlygame is better

[compact wasp]

would watching p5ab speedruns help with strategizing for bosses?

[warm aurora]

Yes

[compact wasp]

or is that a bit too advanced?

[foggy sable]

idk

depends on the purpose

[strong skiff]

You'd also use custom values easilly
Doing any amount of negative or doing like 10 damage would be easy to note
Obviously you can still do it rn,im just complaining

[compact wasp]

I want to get through the first bosses a bit faster

[zinc iris]

Nice, prob just need few more hrs and a bit of luck

[foggy sable]

speedruns probably are doind a lot of things you don't want to do

[foggy sable]

and some lategame practice

[compact wasp]

not like I can do p5ab runs right now anyway because I need to study till june apparently

[foggy sable]

I'm just enjoying doing 1 nail damage practice on anything I lose a run to

[warm aurora]

The current system is lacking
We cant really change it :(

[compact wasp]

so yay I will also be fricking rusty

[umbral night]

Flukenest

[compact wasp]

atleast one p5 run a day is easy

[ebon depot]

-1 is kinda an like, after addition yeah i get not liking it, it also doesnt really work in the same "reasoning about it" way since to really have a grasp on what the fuck -1 is supposed to mean you have to know d(n) = 5 + 4(n) again

[strong skiff]

Current naming system? You can just say like r5ndmg10

[warm aurora]

Ig

[strong skiff]

Like nobody can stop you from doing whatever the hell you wany

[warm aurora]

But there are whole conventions that most go by

[umbral night]

That makes a lot more sense

[ebon depot]

In this case you totally can i think actually, highly specific damage values are niche enough to where standards arent super rigid i think

[warm aurora]

Cool

[strong skiff]

Too bad
First of all i dont have to fit in there
Second,if i cant fit into an existing system,i'll make my own

Te ano basically came up with nma

Amd its used now

[warm aurora]

I would be fine with an overhaul

[keen thorn]

I came up with F for Fury hitless

[strong skiff]

Oh really

[strong skiff]

Only realistic way you can do that is do like 200 challanges with random nail damage🔥

And name them how you want

[warm aurora]

I suggested the t for thorns
But who would use that

[strong skiff]

Which is not completelly unreasonabale honestly

[warm aurora]

Based on one video

[tropic nest]

[warm aurora]

D for dreamshield

[strong skiff]

This sucks😭
Just say thorns only. There are only like 2 challanges that use it

[warm aurora]

C for crest or smt

[brave kite]

boundless infinity but the screen glitched or smth

[strong skiff]

These are way too specific

Ndmg would be a general overhaul

[ebon depot]

I think you can shorten that to d

[strong skiff]

I dont think crest only deserves an acronym

[warm aurora]

Redbird for some very niche thing where you also upslash twice at some random point etc

[strong skiff]

Or that yes

[keen thorn]

No, T for you have to use thorns
Using thorns is challenging enough.

[warm aurora]

Or the new system is there is nothing and all convos end and its over with challanges
To preserve general sanity and health

[umbral night]

Wow that fight and soundtrack is so cool

[warm aurora]

:>

[strong skiff]

Idea:
-x
Where x = (wraiths damage as the most damaging spell/3)-1
I might have wrote the equasion wrong
Basically (assuming you get soul with negative damage),make it so in 3 hits you heal 32 hp and then hit with wraiths for 33 for progress

[brave kite]

it's a mod

[umbral night]

Mhm
Ik
Great fight

[obtuse brook]

Good day chat

[strong skiff]

Thats like never happening
We have genio planning to do r04cc