hk-discussion

[earnest apex]

We can tell.

[young lake]

✅

[earnest apex]

[gray rivet]

oh okay

[worn hamlet]

crazy

[novel cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/erik-the-electric-fire-emoji-wow-eriktheelectric-calorie-count-gif-6296691273842257057

XAMNNNN

[gray rivet]

@storm flax will you hop

[analog apex]

ur lowkey a horrible human and yo u dont deserve anything

[young lake]

poor embed fail

[novel cosmos]

Raaaah

[earnest apex]

ok.

[shrewd nymph]

What legend

that'll determine if you get praise or hate

[idle belfry]

@sick heath heads

[sick heath]

Nice

[earnest apex]

National Geographic ahhhh username

[worn hamlet]

not the lowkey lol

[earnest apex]

[analog apex]

❓

[smoky matrix]

Hi MaYA.

[worn hamlet]

softening "ur a horrible human and don't deserve anything" with lowkey is just really ironic to me

[vagrant kiln]

Jay.

[worn hamlet]

like ik it's a joke, it's just funni

[smoky matrix]

Sinfaz.

[gray rivet]

@smoky matrix

[smoky matrix]

@gray rivet

[vagrant kiln]

🦊

[smoky matrix]

Hi Foxy Bo.

[gray rivet]

hiiii

[gray rivet]

hellooo

[analog apex]

thats the poin

[analog apex]

hi..?

[storm flax]

sorry :(

[remote elbow]

Guys ill try to finnaly beat the game after like 3 and a half months

[storm flax]

YAY

[smoky matrix]

Hi Spolly.

[storm flax]

?

[smoky matrix]

Good luck.

[storm flax]

hAI JAY I LVOE URF PFP

[smoky matrix]

Thanks oomfie.

[gray rivet]

can you read

[storm flax]

hop what

OK LEAFE

[remote elbow]

Yeah i have 2 bosses remaining the only way i wont beat it today is if the deepnest boss is hard or i get stuck there or something

[worn hamlet]

no it's just a bad question

[smoky matrix]

HK fans are illiterate.

[worn hamlet]

it's not "can u read" it's "are you willing to read" lol

[young lake]

sorry doesnt cut it smh smh

[gray rivet]

you literally got pinged earlier for it

[worn hamlet]

they're just selectively literate

[smoky matrix]

The third Dreamer doesn't have a boss, you're good.

[remote elbow]

In deepnest?

No way

[smoky matrix]

Yee.

[gray rivet]

it would appear so

[bold rose]

Hollow nine implies the existance of hollow eight

[worn hamlet]

hollow nine? Nah, nine sols

[remote elbow]

So your telling me i walk into deepnest and i sont fight anyone?

[analog apex]

@young lake

[young lake]

?

[bold rose]

Hollow nine suls

[analog apex]

serdna

[young lake]

waht

[smoky matrix]

Hi SerdNA.

[young lake]

hi whatws up

[analog apex]

wheres ur minion

[worn hamlet]

yi becoming a vessel:

[young lake]

hi jay

[bold rose]

You don't fight a boss

[young lake]

i dont have a minion

i have friends and equals !

[tulip narwhal]

@storm flax HOP

[analog apex]

where mage

[young lake]

i #love and #respect everybody around me, all the time no matter what! i wouldn't ever wrong any of my friends :')

[young lake]

umm idrk , i think hes sleeping

[remote elbow]

Wtf is this game

Its so easy

[analog apex]

lying?

[young lake]

? when have i ever done that

[remote elbow]

Like add me a boss so its challenging.

[bold rose]

R5

[remote elbow]

Jeez

[smoky matrix]

Just now imo.

[remote elbow]

Yeah ik but im not doing that now

[bold rose]

How long are you in

[smoky matrix]

[young lake]

what the fuck when

pls dont spread misinformation i am like a saint

[smoky matrix]

I see.

[remote elbow]

I set up camp in pleasure house but i have 1 dreamer left and no areas left to explore

[analog apex]

mental healtth break uh saying that youre taller than 5ft 6 saying that you respect your friends

[remote elbow]

Ill try to fight nosk

[unreal saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/dallas-lying-therussianbadger-misinformation-gif-27679221

[young lake]

i am like taller than 5'6 !

[bold rose]

The one where?

[forest flower]

I love Russian badger

[young lake]

by like 1/4 inch probably

[storm flax]

hop wgat'

[wary hound]

YAY

[pliant bough]

[analog apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280681578338451478/1477331073632440432/togif.gif

[young lake]

also disrespect towards doggirls doesntt count since theyre not like human and stuff

[smoky matrix]

Ponder boykisser.

[tulip narwhal]

You can figure it out

[analog apex]

ti does count my wife is a doggirl

[storm flax]

bk_wave

[analog apex]

shes human

[zealous skiff]

guessre

[storm flax]

what mode r u uys doing

[young lake]

Ummmmmmmmm ill believe you sure

[bold rose]

Most on topic #hk-discussion

[gray rivet]

join and find out

[pliant bough]

[storm flax]

oh my god i love thatr

[pliant bough]

of course u do

[analog apex]

thank u ur finally a good person

[gray rivet]

erm

[storm flax]

nu

[storm flax]

ikr!!

[gray rivet]

explode

[pliant bough]

[young lake]

aha aha ty!

[smoky matrix]

Rip Spolly.

[young lake]

i know i am <3

[analog apex]

how the fuck did i cut my knuckle by hitting it on my desk

[smoky matrix]

Why is the cat mogging?

[zealous skiff]

if you donrt like a mode we can just niot paly it

i dont think anyu of us mind

[pliant bough]

too much aura

[gray rivet]

ye

[zealous skiff]

except i mind if we pllay 2000 games of sydney v melbiurne in a row but aside from that

[storm flax]

LMAO

maybe latrer

[gray rivet]

grr

@shrewd meadow whats your opinion on geoguesser

[shrewd meadow]

no

[cinder jackal]

throw

[shrewd meadow]

vypey

[gray rivet]

so you dont wanna play with us...

[shrewd meadow]

am busy

[gray rivet]

another time?

[shrewd meadow]

maybe

[young lake]

throw.

[shrewd meadow]

birdna.

[young lake]

hru

[storm flax]

woaw

[young lake]

waow,,

[tulip narwhal]

@storm flax STOP playing genshin

[torn oasis]

hey y'all whats harder PoP with delicate flower or P5 ab

[storm flax]

why

[gray rivet]

so you can get on geo

[tulip narwhal]

PoP with the flower but only if you fight pv at the end @lumos

[torn oasis]

p5 ab is that hard

[fallow grotto]

h throwout

omg throowut

it’s throowuto

[torn oasis]

people know that game i thougt i was niche asf playing that

[tulip narwhal]

Glad to be part of this niche community of geoguessr players

[gray rivet]

so true

[torn oasis]

i memorized like 90% of al flags for that game

[cobalt crypt]

No throw

[zealous skiff]

only 50% of coujnries are in geoguessr 👍

[torn oasis]

yh thats true tho like germany and china aren't in geogesser

[tulip narwhal]

Yes famously germany isnt in geoguessr

[livid leaf]

Is lumafly synched with hollow knight yet guys?

[torn oasis]

98% done with hollow knght i will start silk song now

[remote elbow]

Guys should i explore deepnest i have like that area to explore and thats it idk if i should get the dreamer and grt the fuck out of there or actually explore the place

[weary flint]

ngl

i just wish silksong was a literal part 2 of the first game

where another worm takes over and then you watch the kingdom back in place

[fallow grotto]

dutch what are you doing in hallownest 😂

[remote elbow]

I uh thought the tram went to tahiti

[lapis musk]

💀

wait holy necro why was my discord so late

[rare aurora]

what the hell what is fake german doing here

[vagrant kiln]

Says the Austrian

[rare aurora]

our german is the best german

the only german even

[vagrant kiln]

Hallo Alp

[rare aurora]

hi sin

[vagrant kiln]

How's it going

[rare aurora]

pretty ok, other than having to wake up at 7:30 daily 😪

[vagrant kiln]

It's about 6.30 for me daily 🥴 it really sucks

[rare aurora]

shit’s unfair man

[vagrant kiln]

Indeed

[proud haven]

I wake up at the beginning and sleep at the end

[untold mist]

friend of mine said hollow knight is easy, just secretly modded anyrad 3.0 into his game, will let y'all know when he beats it

[wary hound]

gang he never beating that

[wind garnet]

sin faz

[proud haven]

He'll probably naturally adapt to it, like the noble moth. AnyRadiance3.0 will feel to him like "AnyBadiance3.0" as he claims victory the way a car does a bug that hits the windshield.

[trim schooner]

yo suscat is there any way to ensure that when either beam burst happens you're not facedancing too high up and not have enough time to drop down and dodge? (i'm doing soup but yeah, i believe strats should be pretty similar) cos sometimes i pogo and immediately the boss starts beam burst and i dont have the time to drop below and dodge, also i'm already consciously facedancing as low as i consistently can. also im still struggling with telling the two attacks apart but i think that'll just come with practice

[lapis musk]

ddark

[trim schooner]

cant unddarkable spikes

[lapis musk]

what mod is this

[trim schooner]

supernova radiance

[lapis musk]

oh gotcha

[analog apex]

@wind garnet

[wind garnet]

meow

[wind garnet]

bleh

i saw your message in any rad cord i think

forgor to reply

tldr you dont need it for soup

and its technically not consistent

[wind garnet]

the thing ur asking is called cast attack setup its a position that lets you dodge all of rads cast attacks on 2.0 but it doesnt work for 1.0 due to orbs spawning faster (i believe this is true for soup too)

[real pasture]

You can’t even understand each other at times

[wind garnet]

yeah you cant but it does 1 dmg so its honestly optimal to take the 1 dmg and ddark when you can on the left or right ddarkable spots

[trim schooner]

ohk thanks (im assuming a cast attack is orbs sword burst beam burst?). does that mean i should just assume whenever soups eyes glows its sword burst? also whats cast position, i want to give it a go, see if it's doable, since there are less orbs in soup

[wind garnet]

cast attack is sword burst orbs and beam burst

[trim schooner]

yeah but isn't ddark cast animation too long? i've learnt sword burst shriek stall and im pretty consistent at it

[wind garnet]

the other thing is performing cast attack setup is hard

theres people who clear 2.0 without it lol

i cant do it in plats and i have 15 2.0 clears

not bad but the people who can do it most of the time have over a hundred 2.0 clears

[trim schooner]

yeah im assuming they do what i'm currently doing and just act like beam burst is a nonexistent attack

[wind garnet]

larry is at 400 💀

[trim schooner]

what. for what reason 😂

[wind garnet]

5 in a row

[trim schooner]

yeah ive seen thatt

[wind garnet]

oj has 200ish

[trim schooner]

nah i still want to give it a try cos i think i wanna do 2.0 after soup (still haven't done 1.0 lmaoo but i feel like soup to 2.0 is a good plan)

[wind garnet]

so again you can try maybe justin will give a better explanation

[wind garnet]

its not

[trim schooner]

oh...

[wind garnet]

soup plays way different

[trim schooner]

i just realised most people clear rad 1.0 before 2.0 so the difficulty jump is still quite a bit

[wind garnet]

ask ter how rad 1.0 to 2.0 is going

you can see the gap there

[vale condor]

Today its my birthday

[trim schooner]

so maybe ill go back to 1.0 but if its a cool strat i wanna learn

wait does cast setup have anything to do with timing

[wind garnet]

yeah but again it doesnt work for anything else

[trim schooner]

like a double jump or something so that you pogo at a specific time

[wind garnet]

its based on your arrival to radiance

[trim schooner]

soup orbs aren't hard to dodge so maybe i could pull it off?

[wind garnet]

if only it were that easy

[trim schooner]

ahk never mind its cooked, soup takes a lot longer to cast

i was looking at your 2.0 clear and realised that for 2.0 as soon as eyes glow beam burst telegraph shows basically immediately, with soup the boss waits 50 years and it throws me off

[trim schooner]

lmaoo

thx for help tho ill still have a look into cast setup cos interesting but yea

[odd salmon]

Well that's great

[wind garnet]

my clear is bad you wont learn much from it

[trim schooner]

all of them?

[wind garnet]

the first one

compared to the quality from other players yea

[trim schooner]

ah i was looking at the most recent one

damn

is there a guide anywhere to cast setup or?

[wind garnet]

again soup shouldnt be too hard

[trim schooner]

im shit at the game also im learning unnecessary things for fun

[wind garnet]

smart dmg tanks and ddark

yeah i did the same i guess

but on harder difficulties

[trim schooner]

unnecessary things that are probably making it harder for me to clear 😭

[serene talon]

how do I get the grub near the white lady

[trim schooner]

have you cleared ascended soup?

[wind garnet]

i died on asc soup last hit lol

[trim schooner]

damn lmao rip

[wind garnet]

but for a daily pv random run not bad

[trim schooner]

def

[torn oasis]

yo i beat the first mantis in mantis lords blindfolded

[trim schooner]

nice

finally found your soup clear lmao

wait suscat what was your charm loadout how did you fit in cfm

[torn oasis]

i can't do the 2 at once my next blindfolded boss shall be ||[ false knight ]||

[wind garnet]

lqs

[trim schooner]

ohhh is that considered cheating? also did you have shaman lmao

[wind garnet]

?

i didnt have shaman

[torn oasis]

what is lqs

[wind garnet]

and no

well depends on who you ask but rad community doesnt mind lqs

[lapis musk]

legacy quick slash

aka 2 notch qslash

[wind garnet]

r5 players will have your head on a stake if you like lqs

[torn oasis]

oh mod?

[lapis musk]

typically yes

but its an old version of hk

[lapis musk]

lqs is peak smh

[trim schooner]

ohk got it thx

[wind garnet]

see this is why i like you arima

[trim schooner]

i SWEAR your shade soul is slightly larger than normal

[wind garnet]

send the vid

[trim schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yevcSedS7qk

i think i might just be hallucinating

[wind garnet]

awh hell naw

this shit is old

[trim schooner]

whens your more recent one

[wind garnet]

i can try to find it

[trim schooner]

also going for that facedance during nail rain was so greedy how tf did you not get hit

[wind garnet]

its fun

i did it in rad 1.0 too its just peam

[trim schooner]

lmaooo

bruh if i even think about doing that soups gonna delete all my hp in half a second

[torn oasis]

yo i beat false knight blindfolded lesgo

[trim schooner]

ggs

[torn oasis]

what boss should i do next

[trim schooner]

pure vessel

im kidding im kidding

[trim schooner]

phase 5 boundless infinity hitless blindfolded

[torn oasis]

real funny maybe the hollow knight but his attcks are pretty hard to dodge

[wind garnet]

shade soul size difference bruh

[torn oasis]

easy

[trim schooner]

i keep forgetting its normal size lmao sry

[trim schooner]

100%

[wind garnet]

anyway other run is kinda ahh so ill send shadows run

[torn oasis]

yh i have to do it one handed for it to be challenging

[trim schooner]

ahk bet ty

[trim schooner]

1 hand is barely a difficulty increase

well for me it is at least, everything i need is binding to my mouse lmao

[torn oasis]

1 finger

[wind garnet]

someone did any rad one handed

[trim schooner]

heal, cdash, attack and dash are all binded to my mouse

[torn oasis]

thats normal

[wind garnet]

i think someone did radiant markoth with 1 finger

[trim schooner]

lmaoooo

[trim schooner]

hi ei hyd

[trim schooner]

yeah i saw on the anyrad clear list

[torn oasis]

bro it took me so long to do him radiant normally

[wind garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA30m72lMVo try to pogo the void ig

could help

[digital grove]

heyo in im ok about to head off to eep in a littl bit

[torn oasis]

absrad one handed is it possible

[wind garnet]

peace

[digital grove]

revisited binf for a half hour or something

[trim schooner]

peak lmao aight cya o/

[trim schooner]

oooo howd it go

[wind garnet]

so sorry for you

m*ta abuserhttps://youtu.be/px-9gEaaDfs?si=Ee5soJtj7u7utSe7

[trim schooner]

suscat be ragebating

[digital grove]

I still do not know if i want to do anything more in that fight smh smh

[wind garnet]

ehh

not really

[trim schooner]

rip

[digital grove]

probably will play pale shadow though

except fsr tried it and it just does not work

same thing with pale prince :ponder:

[wind garnet]

yesssss

[digital grove]

for some reason both fights will sometime just load the normal pv fight

usually happens more with pale prince but

[wind garnet]

i have hundreds of hours on pale shadow

ive NEVER had that bug

[digital grove]

[wind garnet]

probably one of your mods messing with the thing

[dusky coral]

@old comet sup

[digital grove]

probablyy

[wind garnet]

i will say tho pale shadow bugs pretty often

[digital grove]

yeahh to be expected from a rot mod

[old comet]

im doin collo

first time just discovered it

[dusky coral]

yee ic

nice

[trim schooner]

btw suscat does cfmreset not work with godseeker+ infinite challenge

[wind garnet]

haha

you gotta turn off infinite challenge

[dusky coral]

im doing something else, ping me if u need help

[trim schooner]

WHYYYYY 😭

[digital grove]

infinite challenge

[trim schooner]

lmaooo

[wind garnet]

oh yeah ei ill look for a cool pale shadow run i got

but ehhhhhh its some where in my 800 videos of pv bruh

[trim schooner]

i have been slightly inconvenienced 😭

[trim schooner]

lmao rip gl

[digital grove]

random number generator 1-800

[wind garnet]

3.0 players gotta reset either way

inf challenge doesnt work at all

noaran has had to deal with that for 600 hours

💀

[trim schooner]

that sounds awful

[digital grove]

infinite challenge lowk just doesnt work with any modded bosses at all lmao so ive had to turn it off when running anything that isnt vanilla bosses

[trim schooner]

yea

[digital grove]

atp i will just keep it off all the time

[tulip narwhal]

Thank you suscat

[digital grove]

because it doesnt even work with certain vanilla bosses anyway

[wind garnet]

works fine with most of mine you must have some weird stuff going on

floggy saw the new vid

good work

[lapis musk]

ive never had one it doesnt work with, thats odd

[tulip narwhal]

Yay thank you

[digital grove]

i think my issue is moreso i just play bad mods

[wind garnet]

mane idk where that vid one

here just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzYMy-OMHBk

[digital grove]

also for the record this is my modlist

idk why the fucking dab mod is there 💀

[wind garnet]

hmm

i dont see anything that could mess stuff up

[trim schooner]

OMG

SUSCAT I LOVE YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT LQS I GOT TO CLIMB :D

[wind garnet]

i gotta install trans trans

[wind garnet]

cfm op

[trim schooner]

tf si transtran lmao

[wind garnet]

[trim schooner]

YES

[digital grove]

mod that makes tiktik colors trans color

[wind garnet]

tiktik

[trim schooner]

lmaoooo

btw suscat how did you practice climb

[digital grove]

it really is strange seeing pale shadow phase 3 without freeze frames 😭

[wind garnet]

but thats kinda why people say soup below 1.0

[old comet]

@dusky coral how do ya get in here?

[trim schooner]

cos climb is easier?

[wind garnet]

yeah the pogos boost you

[digital grove]

W clear did you use fullspeedahead to remove freeze frames?

[trim schooner]

i mean with cfm yeah that makes sense

[wind garnet]

yes

1.0 you cant use cfm you gotta baldur under real pressure

[old comet]

is meba alive

[slender vale]

BRUH I was doing so good until Markoth in P4! T-T

[livid leaf]

Is Lumafly synchronised with hollow knight yet?

[digital grove]

no

[livid leaf]

how much longer

[trim schooner]

ahk yeah that makes sense

[wind garnet]

never practiced it

[digital grove]

idk

join the hk modding server there will probably be an announcement when modding api is updated for current patch

[odd salmon]

That sucks

[dusky coral]

thru isma grove

[livid leaf]

Also, I'm in Godhome rn, and I realised that during the bench breaks in the panthroms people have lifeblood cocoons but I don't, how do I get that

[odd salmon]

Bindings

[livid leaf]

Wdym

[rare aurora]

and i loathe myself every time i listen to a german talk so we still win these

[rough marten]

Bapanada

[digital grove]

you have to do pantheons with bindings to get lifeblood cocoons

[livid leaf]

Oh

[digital grove]

either all at once or seperately

[livid leaf]

Even 1 binding is enough?

[odd salmon]

At the start of each pantheon you can select binds to make it difficult, they then give you lifeblood after enough are done

[odd salmon]

No

[livid leaf]

Then?

[digital grove]

if you do 1 binding on each pantheon you can get a lifeblood cocoon yes but it only gives 1 lifeblood mask

[trim schooner]

btw does shamanless shriek do more dps than strength + quickslash

[odd salmon]

Well only str adds damage does it not?

[digital grove]

in general strength + qs will do more

[livid leaf]

What that makes no sense in the vids they don't put any binding and they get 4 lifeblood masks

[digital grove]

because unless fps is capped to give you 4 shriek ticks every time youd only get 60 damage per shriek

[odd salmon]

Cus they have them done

You dont

[livid leaf]

What no sherike does 140 dmg

[odd salmon]

No

[livid leaf]

If all 7 hits

[trim schooner]

ohk got it thx

[digital grove]

shriek doesnt tick 7 times 💀

[livid leaf]

it does

[trim schooner]

no it doesn't

[digital grove]

it ticks 3-4 times, 4 if your fps value ends with a 4 or a 9

[odd salmon]

At most it'd be 60

[trim schooner]

what mods are you using 😭

[livid leaf]

How much dmg does d dark do then

[digital grove]

it most consistently does 3 ticks of 20 damage

[severe wigeon]

I keep choking at P5 PV

[trim schooner]

88 or 80 depending one which way youre facing

[odd salmon]

Practice in hog

[digital grove]

likeee 60 in total on one side of the spell and 65 on the other without any shaman buff? theres like 3 different ticks of damage going on i have to look at that again rq

and the other numbers for shaman yeah

[livid leaf]

so ur saying that d dark is better than shriek

[severe wigeon]

I should probably get lifeblood from P3 Bindings

[severe wigeon]

Yes and No

[odd salmon]

Not really what they said

[odd salmon]

I also should

[trim schooner]

o

[digital grove]

wait wtf

[odd salmon]

Wat?

[livid leaf]

Ye I'm never trusting chatgot again

[digital grove]

why are the shockwaves like that without shaman compared to shaman lmao

[severe wigeon]

[livid leaf]

It did that skerik does 140 across 7 ticks

D dark was 88

[odd salmon]

It quite literally doesnt

[livid leaf]

And s soul was 40

[trim schooner]

why are we using chatgpt

[digital grove]

why would you ask chatgpt for that

[trim schooner]

google is a thing

[severe wigeon]

Rule one never ask ChatGPT about any games

[livid leaf]

I was studying with chat I just randomly asked it

[severe wigeon]

They are so wrong

[odd salmon]

Why use it to study?

That's worse than using it for hk

[livid leaf]

no it's not it helps me get good grades

[severe wigeon]

[livid leaf]

It makes answers easier to remember

[digital grove]

shockwave damage without shaman is still so weird, why is the damage for some reason equal on both sides when you have shaman equipped but not equal when you dont

unless wiki is wrong and/or im going crazy, either could be true

[odd salmon]

Special code

[foggy sable]

it is unfortunately real

hk is a mess

[digital grove]

every spell is fuckeddd

[livid leaf]

Nah i belive that asherik does 60-80 dmg

[livid leaf]

No they are not

[digital grove]

they very much are

[odd salmon]

They are

[foggy sable]

shriek has different knockback depending on the direction you face

[livid leaf]

Literally all of them do more dmg then the pure nail

With unbreakable strength

[digital grove]

thats not what i meant by theyre fucked

[odd salmon]

That's not what we are on about

[digital grove]

they are just bugged messes

[livid leaf]

No they are not

[digital grove]

which is lowk great but theyre a messsss

[odd salmon]

I see what you did there

[livid leaf]

They are fr not

They are so good

[digital grove]

bro has never seen flukenest before

[livid leaf]

I just said I'm in godhome…

[odd salmon]

Well, as you can see in the message ei sent awhile ago, without shaman l does 35 and r does 30

With shaman it's the same

[livid leaf]

I have every charm bruv

[odd salmon]

Same damage I mean

[digital grove]

that is a charm you would usually get by the time you are in godhome yes

[foggy sable]

no real person sees flukenest and goes that charm is well made and the spell is not bugged\

[odd salmon]

What's the max it can do?

[livid leaf]

Flukenest is the worst charm I have ever seen in my life

[foggy sable]

thousands I think

[odd salmon]

Damn

[livid leaf]

Bro spells are good

D dark does 88 dmg

[digital grove]

thats kind of what we're saying

[foggy sable]

I don't even know of flukenest has an upper limit

[digital grove]

theyre just
broken

[livid leaf]

S soul does 30 which can be short ranged and long ranged

[digital grove]

wow OP

[livid leaf]

Shriek is so good for radiance fight

[digital grove]

fascinating

[livid leaf]

Also thx for the advice I will never use chargpt again for games

Also, can u be completely honest with me

[foggy sable]

this conversation lost me somewhere

spells are good and you should use but they are not well made because team cherry can't code

[livid leaf]

I use tutorials from time to time, does that make me a bad player

[digital grove]

no

[livid leaf]

like not every day

[livid leaf]

why

[digital grove]

because extremely minor stuff like that doesnt dictate skill

and besides you would be putting it into effect anyway

[livid leaf]

I recently used one to find the last 15 charms I needed

[digital grove]

its not like youre getting some TAS to do whatever youre trying to do for you

i mean, i personally wouldnt do that but i also wont dictate how someone else plays a game

[lapis musk]

no 😭

[livid leaf]

Oh thx

[digital grove]

fairly sure mostly everyone here has used a tutorial or guide at some point

[livid leaf]

Also got any advice for me in godhome

[pliant bough]

dont be too sure

[dawn salmon]

I used one cos I needed to get one more mask shard and I had no clue where tf it was

[livid leaf]

Which mask shard was it

[odd salmon]

Well, TBF, if it's a tas made by them they're still doing the work in a sense since tas take much longer to make than just doing a boss or whatever it it

[digital grove]

yeah kinda bad comparison but
point is youre still putting into the effort it takes to accomplish something in the game

[odd salmon]

Yuh

[digital grove]

even if you do rely on a guide or tutorial

[dawn salmon]

so basically I forgot to do the flower thing

[livid leaf]

Ahhh

Honestly I don't know why people hate it

[trim schooner]

i googled where literally everything was on my first playthrough lmao

[livid leaf]

I mean I know’

[trim schooner]

except maybe dash

[livid leaf]

I know why people hate it

[odd salmon]

I googled stuff at the end

[livid leaf]

I used a guide to find my way

[odd salmon]

And for dash I watched explained in insults

[trim schooner]

i was too impatient to do proper exploring lmaooo

[trim schooner]

lmaoooo

[dawn salmon]

I went through a couple times and lost flower

[livid leaf]

I did it on my 2nd try

[dawn salmon]

Then I just went to the grave and slaughtered a path back to the grave

[worthy peak]

I googled stuff when encountering dark rooms

'Do you find a light?'

[trim schooner]

skill issue ngl

[odd salmon]

Did you not have lantern?

[trim schooner]

kidding ofc

[livid leaf]

Guys

[worthy peak]

No. Glad I googled cause otherwise I would have tried to force it

[livid leaf]

Which is ur fav boss in hollow knigh

[digital grove]

practice bosses in hall of gods especially when you get to pantheon 5 or bosses at the end of pantheons
try to find a charm loadout that works best for you and stick to it throughout godhome, including hall of gods and pantheons
its ok to quit if you feel like you need a break or like you cant accomplish something, never feel bad about doing this
you wont be perfect at every single boss first try, sometimes it will take you many many attempts to even get a boss down on attuned but it really doesnt mean anything about you as a player, everyone starts somewhere

[livid leaf]

Dang thx ig

[odd salmon]

Well you could've always googled the room with light

[digital grove]

absrad

[worthy peak]

Also Hiii!

[livid leaf]

Guys what is ur fav bosses

[trim schooner]

hi strawberry hyd

[digital grove]

anyways i think the only stuff i googled on my first playthrough was how to get crystal heart cus i couldnt navigate peaks for shit :ponder:

[worthy peak]

That option did not occur to me

[trim schooner]

mossy c i love the extreme difficulty of that fight

[livid leaf]

What is mossy c

Full form?

[digital grove]

and also how to beat mantis lords and soul warrior because they were absolutely destroying me first time through 💀

[worthy peak]

I'm okay. What about you

[odd salmon]

Just use it as an overlay and copy the movements

[trim schooner]

im fine thx

[livid leaf]

What is mossy c

[worthy peak]

||Absolute radiance||

[trim schooner]

massive moss charger

[livid leaf]

…

[digital grove]

the best boss is obviously vengefly king

[livid leaf]

…

[trim schooner]

fuck vfk

[livid leaf]

Are y'all trolling

[digital grove]

wtf

haters smh

[trim schooner]

no mossy c is genuinely impossible nobody has ever cleared it legit

[livid leaf]

WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD LIKE MOSSY C

[trim schooner]

i love a challenge though

[livid leaf]

I HAVE ITS SO EZ

[trim schooner]

no you haven't

[foggy sable]

I will always hate vfk

[digital grove]

yeah i had to use invincibility to beat massive moss charger hes too hard

[livid leaf]

I COULD BEAT MOSSY C RADIENT BRO

[trim schooner]

exactly lmaooo btw hi grey hyd

[dull dove]

ive lost so many good p5ab runs to vfk

[digital grove]

atleast you view winged nosk as not bad

[trim schooner]

sure buddy

[digital grove]

or do you i kinda forgot your tierlist

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiii inf

[livid leaf]

Bro I will send a vid rn

[worthy peak]

Maybe. Too late now

[trim schooner]

grey surely you agree mossy c is by far the hardest boss in the game

[livid leaf]

Of me defeating moss charger no dmg

[trim schooner]

photoshop

[digital grove]

invincibility frames smh

[livid leaf]

Ok this is fr troll

[trim schooner]

ai generated

[livid leaf]

Look at this vid

[foggy sable]

it is not good competition

[livid leaf]

It's not mine

[digital grove]

WHAT

[livid leaf]

Just look

[digital grove]

moved it down

[worthy peak]

We all do

[digital grove]

ok atleast you like wosk more than regular nosk

if this tierlist is ordered anyway

[foggy sable]

it is relatively ordered

[trim schooner]

grey surely mossy c is at the top

[foggy sable]

uhhhh I have lost at least one run to mossy

maybe at least 5 idk

[trim schooner]

r5 or r5ab

[digital grove]

hey me too

and i had fury too so its like

[foggy sable]

all of the runs combined

[digital grove]

[trim schooner]

o dam

[trim schooner]

ive died to mossy c in an f5 before too lmaoo

im still yet to clear f5 but im not even gonna bother trying

[digital grove]

have you had the experience of trying to charge a dash slash for false knight and then dashing too early and walking into him

[foggy sable]

if you get way better then go back and do easier runs you get it much faster

[trim schooner]

no

[digital grove]

damn

[foggy sable]

I've just walked into him before

[digital grove]

highly recommend

[trim schooner]

bet lol

[foggy sable]

it does work like that though

[worthy peak]

Uhh. Like once I think

[foggy sable]

anything you can lose a run to I think I have

[digital grove]

im glad we can relate on this

[lapis musk]

nkg hate

[digital grove]

sob hate

[trim schooner]

lmao ngl same

sob was peak for a while but now its meh at best

[digital grove]

only thing i die to fk on now is screwing up cyclone wiggles

[livid leaf]

Mossy c is f

Tear

[lapis musk]

Sob hate

[trim schooner]

cant even spell teir right 😭

[odd salmon]

Nah

[trim schooner]

i mispelt it too

😭

[livid leaf]

Yes ty for the correction

It's f teir

[dense fjord]

You absolute oaf

[livid leaf]

Z thir infact

[trim schooner]

its spelt tier 😭

[odd salmon]

Tier?

[livid leaf]

BRO SRUPID GRAMMERLY

[digital grove]

went to go find my sob slander image and lmao i love hk wall/corner hitbox moments

[trim schooner]

mosst c is s+++++++ tier

[livid leaf]

IM GONNA DELTE THIS APP

[trim schooner]

the knight is blinking lmao

[lapis musk]

Sob slander

[livid leaf]

Ok guys fr

[digital grove]

found it

S tier fight surely

[livid leaf]

What is ur fav boas

[livid leaf]

Yessss

[trim schooner]

vanilla or any hk boss?

[lapis musk]

i dont even know anymore tbh

[livid leaf]

Ty

Vanilla 1st

[trim schooner]

pv

[digital grove]

yours is anymarmu dont even try to hide it smh

[livid leaf]

Then if u want u can say any

[trim schooner]

wtf is anymarmu

[lapis musk]

i feel like every boss is flawed to some extent

[livid leaf]

Goated boss fight

I fr love it

[foggy sable]

where is the floor in markoth

[livid leaf]

Sister of battle amazing

[lapis musk]

Buster

[livid leaf]

Not my fav tho

[digital grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiG9fK9BN8g

[trim schooner]

including modded fav goes to aleph one/absolute infinity/rot please decide on a name

[digital grove]

truly an elite boss fight

[lapis musk]

i dont think theres a boss not flawed enough to truly enjoy **

[livid leaf]

What abt vanillla

[worthy peak]

Anyrad

[lapis musk]

including markoth @foggy sable

[livid leaf]

Ok nvm vanilla only

[foggy sable]

...

[livid leaf]

Idk any other bosses

[trim schooner]

looks like ptsd

[digital grove]

oh right i forgot to say but ggs on baldurless oc 1.0 @worthy peak idk how long ago you cleared it but yee

[livid leaf]

GUYS

WAHT IS UR FAV VANILLA BOSS IN HK

[worthy peak]

Thanks!!!! :)

[odd salmon]

?

[digital grove]

absrad

[foggy sable]

absrad

[worthy peak]

Absrad

[lapis musk]

probably is pv tbh

[digital grove]

no baldur shell overcharmed attuned any radiance 1.0

[trim schooner]

pv

[odd salmon]

Ohh

[trim schooner]

absrad gets second place for me

[livid leaf]

OK FINALLY

[lapis musk]

ew absrad

[livid leaf]

Ima go see that absard is

[thorn ruin]

pv

[foggy sable]

slander

[trim schooner]

pv and absrad are objectively the two best bosses in the game

except maybe mossy c

[lapis musk]

[trim schooner]

mossy c is valid too

[lapis musk]

I do dislike them a decent amount now sadly

[livid leaf]

Ok absarad is radience

[digital grove]

ewww i took off steady body and forgot i did

[foggy sable]

why now didn't you stop playing?

[livid leaf]

Mine is NKG

He is so fun

[lapis musk]

I play on my laptop during class

Sometimes

[foggy sable]

what are you getting up to then?

[lapis musk]

and time away from the game let me be more logical about it

[livid leaf]

2nd goes to sister of battle

[foggy sable]

r5 again surely

[lapis musk]

Nothing, i cant even consistently do radabsrad on it

[livid leaf]

Super duper amazingly fun

[lapis musk]

Input delay is foul

[livid leaf]

I gtg now

[digital grove]

felt

[livid leaf]

Cya later

[worthy peak]

Cya

[lapis musk]

but i now notice the flaws of bosses ig so lowk hate all 47

[livid leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/swaggy-dance-by-master-anonymous-gif-2219568951525605945

[digital grove]

TRUE

[odd salmon]

Don't have perms

[digital grove]

surely play a game with GOOD BOSSES

[odd salmon]

I don't anymore aswell

[trim schooner]

nine sols?

[lapis musk]

Nine sols angle?

[digital grove]

everyone must hop......

[lapis musk]

too busy playing sts2 with some bummy bosses

[odd salmon]

Nah

[cosmic marlin]

I am seriously confused about this as the information online constantly contradicts itself. If I wanna go for the shortest ending in Hollow Knight, what are the mandatory bosses? Please include mandatory bosses which can be skipped via glitches.

[digital grove]

damn

[lapis musk]

Glitches or skips

[worthy peak]

Even if glitch is minor?

[lapis musk]

Stuff like false knight can be skipped

But its not surface level

[cosmic marlin]

That's not a glitch.

[digital grove]

thk is the only mandatory one because you can glitch to dupe herrah which has no boss preceeding her

[odd salmon]

Uhh, false knight, hornet, mantis lords, can do different route tho, watcher knights , uumuu, soul master, and that's all I can think of

[digital grove]

hornet isnt mandatory

[lapis musk]

Yes but its a niche speedrun strat, i was checking

[digital grove]

you dont need dash for low%

[lapis musk]

Mantis lords?

[digital grove]

yeah and mantis lords also is not needed for claw

[odd salmon]

As I said, can do different route

[cosmic marlin]

This is exaclty what I mean. I've heard this one was optional.

[odd salmon]

Ik it's not, deepnest

[lapis musk]

so not mandatory then

[worthy peak]

False knight hornet and uumuu and watchers I think all others can be skipped without glitches

[lapis musk]

If you just watch a top any% run, you'll see what bosses they fight

[worthy peak]

Yeah but don't you slopeballs?

[lapis musk]

Why is false knight required

[worthy peak]

Required to fight.

[odd salmon]

Fireball

[storm flax]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hand-moment-gif-20477694

[lapis musk]

??

[trim schooner]

no in speedruns you dont actually kill him

[digital grove]

i believe so yes therefore you would skip false knight to pick up vengeful spirit

[trim schooner]

hi spol hyd

[lapis musk]

im asking why hes required

[odd salmon]

You fight him, ik

[worthy peak]

I forgot you could ibaldur

[thorn ruin]

he isn't

[digital grove]

and that too yeah

[trim schooner]

whats ibaldur

[worthy peak]

And thought you were talking about the skip

[lapis musk]

hornet, wk, uumuu might be it

[worthy peak]

Itemless baldur

[digital grove]

the category of all time

[odd salmon]

Iframe baulder

[cosmic marlin]

The issue is that in an any% speedrun the players skip bosses via glitches

[odd salmon]

Or that apparently

[digital grove]

not necessarily

[odd salmon]

Close enough

[frozen storm]

Brazilian spotted

Hello guys

[lapis musk]

There are different categories for glitches

any% doesnt have major glitches

[cosmic marlin]

Close, Portuguese 😉

[trim schooner]

oh i thought it was an anyrad thing

[trim schooner]

thats why its called any% nail master's glory

[digital grove]

lets make it a real thing!

[worthy peak]

I wouldn't know about anything like that :)

[trim schooner]

yea i dont either lol

[frozen storm]

Well, it was either one so I chose the country with the most amount of people

[lapis musk]

Is gruz mother beat in any% i cant remember

[digital grove]

time to hop itemless anyrad baldur shell only
this is what you mean by ibaldur right

[digital grove]

yes

for lantern

[frozen storm]

Yes for shade skip iirc

[thorn ruin]

yes

[digital grove]

and that too

[lapis musk]

so hornet, gruz, watchers, uumuu, thk should be it

[cosmic marlin]

People ask me that question all the time: Brazilian or Portuguese? 😊

[frozen storm]

Wait any% te or any% nirmal

[lapis musk]

normal

[digital grove]

any% is a different cat from te

[worthy peak]

Yeah

[thorn ruin]

watch the 1st 5 mins
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/runs/mrd8p2dz

[worthy peak]

Obviously

[frozen storm]

Some games have a any% te route

Or Speedrun category

[digital grove]

vypurr mention

[trim schooner]

yeah ive seen it before, in the wr run i believe

[analog apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410759059489165377/1479997553704440043/iloveyoutracer.gif

[buoyant berry]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LeHxaj6xEio?si=xEb3gjRQDckMtc1z

[thorn ruin]

@trim schooner what's rBInfNomt^3

[buoyant berry]

EVERYTHING IS A JOJO REFRENCE

EVEN HK

[trim schooner]

radiant boundless infinity nail only minimal telegraphs 3 times in a row

[torn oasis]

y'all ive been thinking on the charm balancing of this game and had some ideas on how to balance them
hive blood - no [ heals last heart lost restriction ] 3 notches
joni- doubles your healthbar makes it lifeblood but keeps 2 of your masks normal
soul eater - same ability 3 notches
strentgh - 25% damage buff 20% attack speed reduction 2 notches
qslash - 15% attck speed increase 2 notches [ 20% increase with strength]
shaman - 25% damage increase to spells and size increase [ 4 notches ]
gwomb - damage is 2.5X nail takes 2 soul instead of 8 [ 3 notches ] also Aoe damage

[tulip narwhal]

ugh

[frozen storm]

Soul eater is fine

[analog apex]

PEEP DMS

[torn oasis]

4 notches is a little to much don't you think

[frozen storm]

1 notch strenght is broken

[frozen storm]

No, it's perfectly balanced

Soul eater is one of the strongest charms

[torn oasis]

but its ability 1/3 and speed reduction when attacking

[torn oasis]

not really overshadowed by soul catcher tbh

[noble jewel]

good quick slash replacement for spell builds

you get it earlier too

[digital grove]

anyways @trim schooner do you have any idea why infinity sometimes just doesnt do these beam strike things after it parries? cus i thought the parry was the telegraph for this particular attack

[torn oasis]

thats why i made it 3 notches

[frozen storm]

Extremely overshadows soul catcher

Soul catcher is useless

[thorn ruin]

basically just worse gslash

[digital grove]

sometimes it just parries and disappears for a bit and doesnt do the strike thing at all

then reappears for another attack

[noble jewel]

idk abt that, quick will always be better than eater

[lapis musk]

Catcher > eater in non oc
Eater > catcher in oc

[frozen storm]

One of

[noble jewel]

I mean maybe, its not S teir thats for sure

A maybe

[thorn ruin]

that's def true but it's the best one for overcharm

[worthy peak]

Quickslash also fits in spell builds :)

[torn oasis]

for one notch

[trim schooner]

first of all where did you get that pv skin, second of all its probably because you hit it and triggered the parry

[noble jewel]

right, late game i'd rather save the notch and have quick

[thorn ruin]

much better to just use nmg

[digital grove]

i didnt hit it at all idk

[frozen storm]

It's S along with quickslash, strength, shaman and steady body

[noble jewel]

lowkey hot take 👀

[frozen storm]

Fuck MoP @worthy peak

[noble jewel]

other underrated charms are more deserving for an S ranking than eater imo

[worthy peak]

....... how could you T-T

[noble jewel]

like dream weilder or nailmasters glory

[lapis musk]

Like what

[torn oasis]

steady body is a hotter take its b at best

[digital grove]

might be a bug or something cause i experienced it in this run a bit ago and it didnt do the beam things

[foggy sable]

thorns

[lapis musk]

S tier is really just qslash strength shaman sbody

[torn oasis]

no grubsong

[lapis musk]

Nothing else fits

[worthy peak]

MoP is perfect in every way

[noble jewel]

def not, steady is insane

[thorn ruin]

-sbody

[lapis musk]

?

[torn oasis]

you forgot gwomb

[trim schooner]

huh send me a clip maybe

[lapis musk]

sbody is for sure s tier

[noble jewel]

dps can x1.5 with proper play

[digital grove]

idk if the skin is public but i could send it to you if you want

[thorn ruin]

it needs a lot of getting used to

[lapis musk]

i mean so does qslash

[torn oasis]

did i nerf strength too much

[lapis musk]

im assuming a goodish player

[torn oasis]

i don't got the patience

[lapis musk]

Not flukes fury but knows how to use qslash sbody

[trim schooner]

ohk bet

[torn oasis]

only with qslash

[thorn ruin]

qs is fine bc many ppl prob spam anyway

[noble jewel]

not rly, I think strength needs it tbh

[frozen storm]

Who doesn't use qs

[lapis musk]

@ greyfire thoughts

[odd salmon]

How can you see a skin?

[torn oasis]

spell builds and exploration builds

[foggy sable]

TRUE

[lapis musk]

Spell builds use it

[frozen storm]

Spell builds use qs

[noble jewel]

I dont rly, I play spells mainly

[trim schooner]

what

[foggy sable]

I hate sbody so much why does it have to be good

[lapis musk]

guh

[frozen storm]

And steady is good for exploring

[torn oasis]

it ain't that bad

[foggy sable]

if it weren't good I would never use it but it is

[lapis musk]

sbody is still a tier without qslash im dying on this hill

[foggy sable]

so I do

[torn oasis]

no it isn't

[frozen storm]

Also why would you not use qs

[foggy sable]

f tier

[lapis musk]

guh

[thorn ruin]

arima whats sbody's dps increase

[foggy sable]

well maybe not that low

[noble jewel]

lower than A teir tbh, qs saves steady

[foggy sable]

but like, c

[worthy peak]

Just out good it so you still don't need to use it

[frozen storm]

Getting randomly knocked back in spikes

[odd salmon]

You said there was a pc skin, did you mean on pc or?

[torn oasis]

oh so you hate the concept of sbody but not the charm

[lapis musk]

Dunno, i think its dependant on the boss

ive never heard of a set value atleast

[trim schooner]

he sent a ss and the boss had a different skin

[foggy sable]

no, I hate the charm but it is good enough to use

[odd salmon]

Ohh

[torn oasis]

just be careful 1 notch is not worth it

[foggy sable]

just because I dislike it doesn't make it bad

[dawn salmon]

steady body is really funny on certain bosses

[lapis musk]

that spot is reserved for strength and shaman smh

[torn oasis]

do u ude it

[foggy sable]

not any more

[lapis musk]

nmg or ab

[torn oasis]

hey there is nothing to hate abt shaman

[foggy sable]

well sometimes now but I don't use many charms

[lapis musk]

There is lots

[foggy sable]

I want fun charms and most of the good ones aren't fun

[torn oasis]

without shaman spells would be useless [ hot take ]

[thorn ruin]

where

[dawn salmon]

shaman is most goated on something like god tamer where you can actually use the spells

[worthy peak]

Shaman sucks.

As in I dislike it

[dawn salmon]

most of the later bosses are pretty fast moving and hard to get spells off sometimes

[foggy sable]

?

[torn oasis]

i agree so much but you hate on gwomb the most fun charm ever

[thorn ruin]

you don't use spells anywhere else?

[lapis musk]

Its boring, a raw dmg increase is stupidly overpowered while being bland

Only fun bit is increased vs size = more multihits

[foggy sable]

gwomb nerfes spells actively, I like spells

[lapis musk]

Strength is worse. Strength is so incredibly op but its also incredibly boring

[thorn ruin]

true

[dawn salmon]

no I'm a pure nail damage guy for most bosses

somehow got me to like 109% and pantheon 4 so it's working

[lapis musk]

but you have to use it for hard shit

[torn oasis]

but they are useless without shaman which you hate what do you think about spell twister

[foggy sable]

spells are not useless without shaman

[lapis musk]

Useless without shaman is bold

[torn oasis]

only 1% difference

[foggy sable]

literally the worst take I've ever heard

aside from my own of course

[lapis musk]

Even ignoring dmg.. ddive iframes

[torn oasis]

shade dash infinitely better

[wind garnet]

erm just hold forward

[worthy peak]

Really isn't

[lapis musk]

Well wrong but also sdash has a cd and does no damage

[odd salmon]

For I frames?

[thorn ruin]

what if its on cooldown or you don't want to move too much

[dawn salmon]

I think my remaining 3% is hunters journal pantheon 4 and I believe a charm notch might be wrong on the last one tho

[lapis musk]

shade dash cant iframe on the spot without dmaster

[narrow brook]

anyone else suffered with the watcher knights on their first playthrough

[dawn salmon]

Yeah

[lapis musk]

Guessing wrong reply?

[thorn ruin]

journal doesn't give %

[lapis musk]

Immensely

[torn oasis]

can't y'all handle a 1 second cooldown but spend 33 precious soul which you can use for healing

[dawn salmon]

oh wait it doesnt

damn

[lapis musk]

not everything is sdashable lol

[foggy sable]

you can't be good at the game right?

[wind garnet]

same guy who lost 900 essence from dreamgates

[thorn ruin]

imagine needing to heal

[foggy sable]

like, not to be mean and elitist but that is just a take of all time

[torn oasis]

bro i used joni with sharpshadow

[worthy peak]

Why heal when you could just not get hit :)

[odd salmon]

Well if you kill it fast enough you won't need soul to heal

[lapis musk]

that.. doesnt surprise me

[narrow brook]

cause i suck

[torn oasis]

and dashmaster cuz shaman and qslash didn't work for me

[dawn salmon]

radiant bosses gaming