go into the folder you find there
#speedrunning
rich latch
i see hollow_knight_data
hallow imp
mhm
rich latch
and hollow_knight
hallow imp
mhm
rich latch
thats it
hallow imp
you wanna copy those
hallow imp
then make go to your picturs tab or video or wherever you prefer and create a file with the version. (this part isnt specific but basically just name it something to identify it like: "Hollow Knight 1.2.2.1 version"
then just go into the folder and paste
hallow imp
well it doesnt matter exactly where
rich latch
ok
hallow imp
like i put all my folders in my pictures tab
rich latch
how do i create a file with that version
hallow imp
but you may hav a diffrnt prfrnc
so you right click it and youll see the new file option when you click that youll see blue which you can retype into 1.2.2.1 or such
like
rich latch
oh u just want me to create a new folder
rich latch
it says its in steam so it doesnt work
rich latch
gimmie a sec
hallow imp
no worries
rich latch
it wont let me
go into vc
wait
i ahve an idea
it might be hollow knight'
it might be the qwrong folder
cya
hallow imp
mhm have a good dayyy
hallow imp
hm?
rich latch
vc
hallow imp
@stuck raptor so idk how busy you are but when you can could we get your helppp? Their thing is saying "depot download failed" or something
true palm
if you don't mind me saying ummm a bunch of times heres this video i made a while back
first video so I didn't realize the amount of umms
rich latch
were having big trouble lol
hallow imp
XD
rich latch
@true palm
do you mind helping us with a problem
it says manifest is failed or something
in the console of steam
hallow imp
we've made steps past it will keep updated if we are successful
hallow imp
oh no
noble hinge
Does anyone know what the fastest radiance kill is
naive sentinel
So I play hollow knight on PS4 and I want to get seriously into speedrunning this game but the problem is that I don't know how to properly set up a speedrun for hollow knight on PS4. Can anyone help me out?
tame oasis
No idea sorry bro
naive sentinel
rip
strong vessel
I don't either, but if you come ask on the speedrunning discord server (link in pins), there will definitely be someone that can help you!
naive sentinel
ooo bet
true palm
it says manifest is failed or something
manifest id means that you missed a number most likely, you should've had 3 numbers that you copied
it could also mean you didn't run the program before
rich latch
oh i figured it out dw
true palm
ok glad you did 
true palm
go ahead shoot
rich latch
so basically it syas that the game isnt installed
true palm
the mod installer?
rich latch
ye
true palm
mod installer doesn't work on 1.2.2.1, it only works on 1.4.3.2
true palm
did you change the game path or rename any folders?
rich latch
not that i remember
true palm
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight double check this location refers to 1432
if it does not you'll need to change the game path in the mod installer to where your install is
rich latch
what should it say in there
rich latch
i dont have hollow knight in there...
hollow knight data is there
i dont have unity player either
uh
rich latch
ok
true palm
click verify integrity of gamefiles
rich latch
i am
true palm
once its finished try the mod installer again
true palm
is there a chance your default install is on your D drive
D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight
true palm
change the game path to where it is on your d drive
rich latch
where should i chabge it to
true palm
D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight is where i think it is
but i'm not sure where your install locations are for sure
its whatever folder has hollow_knight.exe in it
true palm
ye np, gl w/ the skins
sullen heron
got my first sub hour speedrun for any%NMG woop woop
hollow zephyr
What is the best any% route
terse cargo
?guides
sick ravenBOT
sharp maple
surprisingly enough an optimal route for current patch 106 is almost the same as one for 1.2 106
despite flukenest being insanely nerfed
snow dome
What do you drop on 106% CP
You probably grab Godtuner and cut 2% somewhere
How much of Grimm could you cut if we didn't require NKG?
steady lynx
Just do 107 and pretend you're on 1.3
snow dome
You could get Godtuner, grab Grimmchild, and just never do any flames or grimm fights
Sure that's the biggest time sink?
(Seeing as 106 route exactly is 107 with Hive Knight)
You can probably route so that you do Flukenest -> Godtuner -> Nail 3 -> Colos?
spare frost
If I downpatch will I lose my previous saves if I am on Current Patch?
terse cargo
no
haughty fossil
no, as long as you don't open prior saves on a downpatch they cannot be affected
terse cargo
oh yeah, don't open your current patch saves on an older patch
haughty fossil
you can always make a copy of them (user1.dat, user2.dat etc) from your save files folder
?saves
sick ravenBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
terse cargo
dyno is very fast
rugged ridge
a
snow dome
fiery fox
im using livesplit but when i record with obs for full screen its ***INCREDIBLY *** laggy, should i just record hollow knight and not show livesplit
not incredibly laggy
but still
lag spikes around every second
worth having lag to show livesplit or should i just record hollow knight
have it not laggy but not showing livesplit
stuck raptor
what are all your settings and specs
is vsync off, are you recording at too high a bitrate, etc
what framerates are you getting. does it only happen when recording
livesplit is very lightweight. so it's probably your recording and game settings
stuck raptor
don't use superfast
fiery fox
ultrafast*
fiery fox
this is with like 600kbs so alot smoother
stuck raptor
what are your machine specs
stuck raptor
so a very old laptop
fiery fox
this is with like 600kbs so alot smoother
i did twitch bitrate by accident
yeah its an old imac i bootcamped
stuck raptor
what's your recording bitrate then
fiery fox
2.5k
stuck raptor
and yeah, with a laptop, you have to turn lots of things way down
b/c they're not powerful
especially when you have 8 year old parts in it
fiery fox
lol
stuck raptor
so you should reduce the recording bitrate even more
and reduce the game resolution/window as much as possible
and change the encoding to nvenc for recording if you can
might not be able to with a 780 tho
digital jewel
I don't think that card has nvenc
fiery fox
625kbs
digital jewel
older mobile gpus don't
fiery fox
I don't think that card has nvenc
it does i think
i used to use it but it overloaded when i recorded
nvenc
thats 2.5k kbs
i forgot to turn down
it might just be easier to record with windows+g and not show the livesplit
ill probs do that
would i need to provide a screenshot of the livesplit?
ig not
stuck raptor
if you're planning to submit loadless times, livesplit must be always visible
haughty fossil
livesplit loadless time can only be accepted if its on the video evidence throughout
analog monolith
i just set obs priority to high
which is a bad idea but hey it makes the recordings a bit smoother
id also record at 480p if feasible, better framerate > better quality in most cases
fiery fox
livesplit loadless time can only be accepted if its on the video evidence throug...
ah
thats extremely annoying
cause i have to record at like 20fps
idk why but the recordings get high lag spikes
analog monolith
bc hk is capping out everything on ur laptop
and obs has no resources to work with
fiery fox
I’ll just record with obs
analog monolith
ur already recording w/ obs
fiery fox
HELL YEAH
lol is it a problem that it recorded the audio of the youtube video for the first part lol
im happy
-1:07
steady lynx
You mean it recorded the audio you had in the background?
steady lynx
As long as Hollow Knight is clearly audible it should be fine
The verifier might be a bit confused though
sharp maple
112/106 early game is so cursed
rocky dew
@true palm a thing that came to my mind: do you think hitless low% might be possible in some way? or what would be the minimal % to have consistent strats (even if difficult) to go through game hitless
because all shade skips and cp epogo's would vanish
strong vessel
It'd definitely be possible on 1221 (or, if you count mantis village fireball as a consistent strat, on CP too), but probably nobody wants to do that
rocky dew
what do you do on 1221? the actual epogo right?
true palm
<@!728729277012639755> a thing that came to my mind: do you think hitless low% m...
hitless low% is incredibly cursed, i did some practice for it but ultimately decided it wasn't worth my sanity
so on 1221 you can pogo the actual explosion
in addition thk is significantly slower and you can reaction speed
heres why its bad:
- watcher knights hitless is incredibly brutal, its also long because you can't corner up ever since they can give undodgeable patterns if you're not always in the middle, so the fights long and anxiety inducing
- thk has two attacks that have a chance of hitting you and are undodgeable, they can stack 3-4 pillars on you and you literally can't dodge
and if thk fountains (big middle explodey thingy) and you're on the right side you'll get hit almost immediately due to how the spread works
- infected gruz room is terrible and requires you waiting for all the gruzzers to fly up so you can kill them safely
rocky dew
i see, therefore i asked my alternative question what the minimum % would be to have a consistent run (as in, its totally up to your skill what happens and not that RNG can fuck you over)
true palm
getting dash is like basically required
shade soul/ddark removes all threat from watchers
downpatching removes threat from thk
rocky dew
how so (thk)
rocky dew
shade soul/ddark removes all threat from watchers
isnt ddive/ddark enough to make it consistent? shade soul would just make it faster but not more consistent would it
true palm
thk on current patch has an rng chance to attack significantly faster than 1221
rocky dew
isnt that learnable?
rocky dew
didnt you already say dash is required for consistency
true palm
theres a difference between consistency and threat
consistency is if its up to you if you get hit
threat is how hard is it to not get hit
the standard Any% Steel Soul route is completely doable hitless with 0 changes
however, it is significantly easier to obtain either descending dark or shade soul
rocky dew
but shade soul doesnt remove the undodgable combo situation?
true palm
undodgeable combo is only dashless
both watchers bounce in the corner, you're screwed
if you have dash you can just dash out
thk middle fountains
you can just dash over
rocky dew
for undodgable i was rather thinking about one bounces, one rolls and youre dodging into the rolling one (ive seen that quite a few times)
true palm
yup, picking up shamans along the way and fighting gruz mother makes it about 3 minutes faster though
rocky dew
hitless isnt about speed
and both things would add % wouldnt they
since the original talk was about the lowest % but still consistent hitless
true palm
low% hitless is still 11% because its still technically possible to get good rng and do a hitless run
rocky dew
"consistent"
true palm
like we have hitless boards
if you just want to do one for fun ye you do low% route but pick up dash
rocky dew
i dont wanna do it, i was just thinking since im doing souls hitless so i was curious
and i think its different if you are a hitless runner or if you are a speedrunner
if you are a hitless runner you are aiming for hitless, if you are fast thats nice
if you are a speedrunner you aim for speed, if you manage to not get hit thats nice
true palm
ye i think our most known hitless runner is probably spiral_out, they usually do sekiro
true palm
speeds kind of important, because faster route means easier to reset
especially since gruz literally just forces worse routing
rocky dew
well for me in ds3 its consistency > speed because it fucks with my mentality to reset, even if its only 10 minutes in
true palm
and shamans makes all the fights faster and less likely to get hit
signal forge
I know it’s not really impressive, but I just managed to beat HK in less than 2 hours for the first time
rocky dew
well the talk was about low% so it has to be worse routing
true palm
its still hard for me to wrap the head around the consistency thing tbh
rocky dew
youre a speedrunner, ofc you dont mind to get hit occasionally 😄
let me switch to mobile
true palm
well no its not that its mostly just you say low% and it just means dashless to me, and if you pick up dash you pick up shamans, and in my world theres no inbetween lmao
like consistency doesn't exist in this game, technically it is possible to get infinite spits from baldurs and be stuck in mound forever without glitches
there are literally rng hitboxes that are tied to framerate, tricks called fake dive where you break a floor without diving down with it are involved with it
low% nmms for instance is like 6% but so terribly inconsistent and cursed nobodies even finished a run of it with the new route
rocky dew
well no its not that its mostly just you say low% and it just means dashless to ...
Why is there no inbetween though? If we're talking about semiconsistent least % as possible and you say that it requires dash then you are dash to the list. I don't see why it would go hand in hand but I'm also not a speedrunner.
strong vessel
It's just because most cats that get dash get shaman
rocky dew
Ah I see
strong vessel
A low% hitless route would probably just be the normal low% lantern route, just take really slowly
wicked blaze
ive tried doing any% nmg 1.2.2.1 runs but the watcher knights are such a huge roadblock for me
how easy is it to learn the nail 1 route if you have the general gist of any% route
flint surge
hey, any tips for QGA?
im trying to get into speedrunning this game, and im trying to learn it
steady lynx
A thing that helped me out was pressing jump and cdash at the same time, if it can cdash will take priority but if you can't cdash you'll just walljump instead
flint surge
so dash, jump and c dash at the same time?
steady lynx
Yeah, until you get the timing down better
Keep in mind, people who have ran for thousands of hours sometimes still struggle
flint surge
is there a mod that lets me practice certain skips with the progression items i would have at the time?
flint surge
thanks :)
tight garnet
what exactly causes a watcher knight to start the roll across the screen attack but then stop midway?
naive sentinel
It depends on how long it rolls
tight garnet
it seems to start the attack but then stop before it really goes very far?
naive sentinel
If it rolls from one end of the room then it stops around a little over halfway. If it rolls from the middle of the room, then it bounces off the wall. If it is really close to the wall and rolls then it usually hits the wall but rebounds very far away from the wall
I’m not very good at explaining but hopefully this helped
tight garnet
i expect the bigger rebound more often, but it seems like sometimes it gets into a ball and then quickly gets out without a rebound? i dunno, maybe i'm just not paying enough attention
there are times where i expect it to roll under me but then it doesn't and i'm confused basically
tight garnet
yeah it just happened again i think, they started the roll at the end of the room but then stopped rolling
naive sentinel
I think watcher knights are coded to roll a certain distance. I don’t think this distance is as long as the whole room so if they start rolling at one end of the room to another it would stop before it reaches the end of the room
tight garnet
i see ok, that makes sense thank you!
naive sentinel
Glad to help
terse cargo
devout nymph
hey guys,do you know how to pogo the “boom” onto mantis village
With dash and fireball
I just twice successful
elfin vortex
elfin vortex
hey guys,do you know how to pogo the “boom” onto mantis village
I assume this is what you mean. I myself find that its easier to get consistently (without dmg) if I dont bother with visual cues and just slash nail 3 times upon landing on the platform then dash off
devout nymph
https://youtu.be/bYsRWyHjcmM
Thank you guys!
I was just searching for video in YouTube
knotty vigil
has anyone some tips for spike tunnels?
steady lynx
Current patch or 1221?
buoyant cargo
has anyone some tips for spike tunnels?
i pinged you in #hk-discussion
knotty vigil
Current patch or 1221?
1.4.3.2
wicked trench
Pogo later than you think
knotty vigil
wdym?
wicked trench
Usually when someone messed up spike tunnel that's because they pogo-dash too early (pogo is the downslash)
knotty vigil
ok so downslash when your almost on the spikes.
snow dome
If you Pogo and then die then yeah, it's because you Pogo too early
But it's a hard trick so don't get too disgruntled if you're struggling.
radiant pewter
so I know for THK's orange spout in p1, you're supposed to jump over it and attack from his back. I usually can't get this tho, as he only does it when he dodges back and I don't like to chase him incase he does the charge. this is more of a challenge running question but idk where else to ask
haughty fossil
chasing them is still good, as when you're close to a dash you can jump over + turnaround fireball attempting to double
charred jolt
Anyone wanna speedrun race against me
terse cargo
pinned discord server
main ember
so was the fast fall glitch patched
haughty fossil
if you mean inventory drops, on patches 1.3 and above they have been "removed" (cannot open inv in midair, but can still open inv when leaving a ledge for the same effect)
vestal mountain
question, does whenever ppl want to do P5 speedruns of any kind do they have to unlock GPZ in that save file?
terse cargo
i'd think so, otherwise it's an unfair advantage to those who have
just use a godseeker file if zote is already dead
ah yeah you do
vestal mountain
Did anyone actually attempted or though of using Fury of the fallen in true ending or godhome ending or 112% speedruns? like i've figured out it is very risky and unworth in any % due to some skips and not a lot of combat to give justice for the whole travel to get fury... but what about the other major catagories? they have much more bosses and combat in them to give reason to use fury... unless i underistimated how strong is shade soul + shaman stone spam in those speedruns compare to... nail 1 + fury :/
terse cargo
yeah it's not worth in any%, 112% possibly could use it later on, but early game fury + nail0 doesn't exactly... help too much
!wiki Fury
sage veldtBOT
https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Fury_of_the_Fallen
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Fury for a direct link or !wiki search Fury for a list of all hits.
terse cargo
oh what that's nice, i don't need to click on the link anymore
vestal mountain
figured it out, in any% there is the beast damage tanking and there isnt really option to bench.... this and the fact that the fury travel is long since its take u like 50% backwards in king's pass
terse cargo
does nail damage round up or down? if it's up then 9, if not then it's 8, so
vestal mountain
rounded up allways
terse cargo
ah ok
i mean, 112% involves pantheons, and as such going as fast as possible during those pantheons, so
i don't see why not in late game 112%
vestal mountain
112% is definetly good option concidering its like first of all a must to get, and second of all concidering it is like huge time saver to use this in the coliseums and pantheons
and probebly bosses in the vanilla map too
terse cargo
do you do p5 in 112% apb?
vestal mountain
wdym, i dont really speedrun, but do like to speculate about possible improvments
rn im like practicing p5 with fury
terse cargo
oh, i'm wondering if you do
terse cargo
because a fury run of p5 would require... well... doing it hitless, because there's no time for bindings in a 112% speedrun
vestal mountain
36:34 with nail and soul bindings p5
vestal mountain
because a fury run of p5 would require... well... doing it hitless, because ther...
technicly there is time, u can go for mask binding and maybe even soul binding since fury is basicly means a melee build
mask binding in fact would make it even faster
terse cargo
you can go for mask binding on all pantheons, but then that's only 4
vestal mountain
soul bind + full on melee build can help too
haughty fossil
yeah it's not worth in any%, 112% possibly could use it later on, but early game...
this is false, 1xx uses fury extensively in early game to speed up boss fights (false Knight, hornet 1 and soul master are commonly done using fury)
haughty fossil
the categories that don't use it only don't use it because it takes too much time to pick up, which isn't an issue for 1xx where it needs to be collected anyway
vestal mountain
this is false, 1xx uses fury extensively in early game to speed up boss fights (...
hornet 1 is interesting concdering it is very easy to double-tap hornet with singe vengefull spirit with shaman stone, but the other ones are like make sense
haughty fossil
no category has shaman before hornet 1
terse cargo
shamanstone% when 
yeah, shamans isn't gotten before hornet in anything
mainly because without dash it requires a shade skip to get up to salubras in the first place
haughty fossil
since salubra either needs dash/claw or a shade skip in vanilla, and that shade skip is slow. Afaik the only categories to go there first is Great Hopper% (never enters gp) and spelless (doesn't use shaman for hopefully obvious reasons)
vestal mountain
also badtato, my best hitless attempt so far was practicly with the fury getting hitless untill white defender
like i first took damage and then started to attack
not really count but eh
terse cargo
i was really asking how many hits, but that works too
vestal mountain
... I forgot, is there like any lifeblood cacoon that is directly on the true ending%/godhome%/112% path? cuse if there is. then fury could be even better since then there would be a room for like 2-3 errors
other then king's pass for obvious reasons xd
terse cargo
if there was you'd surely get it
vestal mountain
ngl problem with this strat is that while it shortens the dream battles (lost kin, failed champ, soul tyrent, white defender and GPZ) you do get full heal afterwards
steady lynx
no category has shaman before hornet 1
This is reverse Hornet order erasure
Also honestly, spells just deal so much damage in general so nail0 with Fury for any extended part of most runs is just pointless
raw chasm
formal bough
this is #speedrunning wrong channel
strong vessel
Fury only really saves time in the early game of 1xx (as Jamie said), and theoretically in the pantheons in 112 too but that requires doing them hitless so it isn't worth it
Everywhere else, it loses time (in other categories, it isn't worth it because of the time it takes to pick up; in 1xx, it is not worth the charm notches)
Seeing as nail 0 with fury does 9 damage but flukes do 112 and shriek does 120
lone pebble
Got 112 apb for the first time yesterday 63hours so I did another to celebrate but decided to just go for % and such without knowing any of the route really I wouldn't say it was that bad idk actual time because livesplit hates hk 
sharp maple
Good jobe ! !
worn mantle
yo can i do the acid skip in fog to gardens in current patch?
or is that an earlier patch thing
stuck raptor
yes you can
worn mantle
alright thanks, guess im just super ass at it
analog monolith
it's difficult
worn mantle
is there like a strat to it
or do i just
jump and pray
i got it once but then messed upt the jump to the left
analog monolith
what a lot of ppl do is minihop off, dash into the wall, press+hold cdash, and immediately after pressing cdash press jump, so that if they dont get the cdash they dont dunk and instead jump back to safety
worn mantle
ok nvm i did it jesus chrisst
analog monolith
getting out afterwards is a matter of timing, if u mess it up u just cant do anything ab it
worn mantle
but yea that is just very difficult
analog monolith
most ppl that do qga in runs have practiced it a lot bc it's such a difficult trick to get consistent
elfin vortex
It really is. I found it helped me to really get my cdash timing down by practising on the wall above and trying to get qga over and over again in debug taking less than 4+ dmg (ideally getting it first try ofc)
true palm
for the final jump, some people cancel it early, it helps time the final jump (but then you have to time the cancel to make sure you still make it to the wall)
ivory kiln
halcyon meteor
how do i get the software to do the speedrun ting
how do i see my times like that
analog monolith
ivory kiln
live split
manic mulch
Whats a good way to start with speedrunnnign?
steady lynx
Generally start with picking a category to run
In HK most prefer to start with either any% NMG or All Skills NMG
manic mulch
alright well I was thinking about any% NMG
tho I dont know any speedrunning tactics or really anything about speedrunning HK
snow dome
?guides
sick ravenBOT
slim geyser
@manic mulch the above list of resources is exactly what you are looking for. I highly recommend looking at fireb0rn's any% video guide to start.
steady lynx
Sigh
cedar fable
I beat the game in 4 hour and 8 minutes
mint shoal
ok
nimble coyote
is it possible to do queens gardens acid skip on latest patch?
strong vessel
Yes
long tendon
Got 112 apb for the first time yesterday 63hours so I did another to celebrate b...
pog
crisp anvil
Thx
devout nymph
finally sub45……
jovial hawk
Trying to speedrun hk, freaking fireball skips are driving me insane, first one is not so bad, but the second one... Any tips guys?
terse cargo
second one? use quick cast
jovial hawk
Yea second one. I am using quick cast. Most of the time by the time I cast the second fireball I'm already too low to reach the platform, maybe I start casting too late. Also I find it hard to turn around and immediately cast, it feels like there's input lag. Same with jumping from the platform I have to press jump slightly before reaching the edge, otherwise I'm falling.
snow dome
Don't let go of jump at all until you've already cast your fireball. You need to be right at the top of your jump, so not too early, not too late.
Make sure V-Sync isn't on
jovial hawk
It's a little tricky for me to hold A (jump) and press Y (cast) on the controller, but yeah that's what I've been trying to do and it works (sometimes). Thanks, I'll try a bit more later.
lament drum
I'm having a lot of trouble getting live split to work with hk, anyone have any advice?
dire obsidian
what is a quick cast? is that a thing console exclusive?
knotty vigil
quick cast allows you to cast spells faster because it fires it as soon as you press the button, while focus casting is slower cause the game has to wait for you to release the button to cast a spell
dire obsidian
ah
knotty vigil
and no its not console exclusive, in keyboard it defaults to F
snow dome
It's a little tricky for me to hold A (jump) and press Y (cast) on the controlle...
Then you should change your quick cast button, probably to a shoulder button
azure pewter
Tf do I do here?
azure pewter
Sorry I thought I was somewhere else
elfin vortex
No worries
jovial hawk
Then you should change your quick cast button, probably to a shoulder button
Yea makes sense, I think it was actually bound to RB by default. I'm following fireborn's series and he recommended to bind quick cast to one of the face buttons, so that's what I did. But I think he's using a claw grip, and I'm not, so maybe I should rebind it back to the default.
snow dome
Yeah, I found default controller really good, to be honest
wintry lotus
I made qga after like 30 minutes (of trying) then died to the mantises
and i realize now i can just do mantis lords (i dont speedrun seriously so some time loss is fine)
But feel free to dm me if you have qga tips. I struggled a lot with getting out of the other side, and also getting into cd position
strong vessel
You can go through the drop entrance to deepnest instead of doing mantis lords
It only loses like 40 seconds optimally so it isn't even a bad thing to do when starting out
knotty vigil
I have done my first hk speedrun and have beat it and 2 hours and 37 mins
I know it’s not amazing but I’m proud 😄
keen sun
trying to get the mod API on the 1.2.2.1 version for speedrun practicing
i think i did all the steps correctly
but it's not showing up on the main menu
i created a folder that has hollow_knight.exe and _data in it for a modded install, verified it shows up as 1.2.2.1 when i launch the game
downloaded this from the google drive
extracted it to the directory and replaced files
oh huh, i just did it a second time and it worked
lol
snow dome
lol
If you check the pinned messages you'll find a link to the speedrun discord server. You might want to join that.
knotty vigil
I tried to speed run once and I ended up failing one strat ||it was the blue lake skip||
wicked trench
(no need to ||spoiler|| stuff in this channel)
Don't worry, with some practice you'll be able to learn it ✌🏼
Just for the record, that's called "shade skip"
fiery fox
just a question, if your running low% true ending. would all have to be in one go
or could you take breaks
cause its like a 45hr run
elfin vortex
Afaik no??? But i really dunno for low% te
Its certainly not allowed for other runs
terse cargo
from the few runs that have been done, i'd say it's fine to segment low te
elfin vortex
Why run low% te tho 
elfin vortex
Ah says in description it wasnt in one go cool
terse cargo
that's not the vod anyway
elfin vortex
Does the run have an src page then? Guessing not
short spire
no one's done a leaderboard valid run of it so no
fiery fox
🤠
steady lynx
Wasn't Taco's run valid?
sharp maple
taco's game crashed a few times making him lose like 160 essence so he just gave it back to himself
smoky lark
Is speedrunning with a controller (dpad obviously) viable or do I need to switch to keyboard?
haughty fossil
top runners use either keyboard or controller, it doesn't really matter for HK
steady lynx
So the hardest part of low TE is just keeping the game running
haughty fossil
staying awake also decently difficult
unkempt goblet
Anyone got a low% fungal shade skip tutorial?
golden hornet
if someone is using the nintendo pro controller on the 1.12.1 can please help with using mine because it doesn't get recognized, thanks
stuck raptor
support for that didn't exist on that patch.
you have to use a controller to keyboard mapping program to use the pro controller on 1221
like joy2key or similar
golden hornet
oh ok, thanks
compact ibex
Ah says in description it wasnt in one go cool
pretty sure it was in 3 days or so
its still impressive
knotty vigil
I am thinking of speed running hk but idk how to do the ||blue lake|| skip, note:I am a console player so i cant really do most of the ||skips|| like the ||explosion pogo|| but can anybody tell me how to do the ||blue lake skip?|| In the current patch you can't use ||mantis claw|| on the wall for the ||shade skip|| because then the ||shade|| would think I'm in another room, so I am completely out of ideas
elfin vortex
No need for spoiler censors in here. Also you can do epogo on console https://youtu.be/bYsRWyHjcmM
elfin vortex
I am thinking of speed running hk but idk how to do the ||blue lake|| skip, note...
Also it is the any% shade skip right? Just make sure to sit on the bench and die in the right spot
knotty vigil
I did sit on the bench and stuff it's just that the shade always goes back to it's original position if I mantis claw on the wall
elfin vortex
Ah then your letting it go too far to the right
knotty vigil
Oh
strong vessel
You can't lure it too far right, you have to dash out to pogo it before it reaches its tether
knotty vigil
Huh I thought it was me that was causing it
elfin vortex
elfin vortex
Btw worth mentioning that since your on console, follow current patch guides/strats since console is on cp.
strong vessel
https://youtu.be/SZp-1S20k60
For the record, most people don't do the strat in that video
It's both faster and easier to jump off > dash > pogo > dash > wall jump
elfin vortex
Ngl I dont run any% so I just linked the shortest vid (soz lol) but yeah as icefire said honestly u dont rlly need to set shade skip up. You can kinda just improv it
charred jolt
I am thinking of speed running hk but idk how to do the ||blue lake|| skip, note...
Actually you can use the mantis claw just gotta jump further from the wall
dry wasp
recomendations and tips for a speedrun?
true palm
for the achievements
?srpsa
wait no they got rid of it?
feels badd
for like an actual run i'd watch some runs on speedrun.com, pick a category
any% is the most popular, all skills is the quickest to pick up
also join the speedrunning discord as well for more resources
but ye if youre doing the cheevos that guides gonna be your best bet
dry wasp
i'm not an expert, i just want to do a casual speedrun
true palm
ok sweet all skills is the quickest to pick up because easier watcher knights fight
any% is the most popular
the guides on speedrun.com should have guides for those
all skills is going to be around an hour and a half RTA (real time) and any% is going to be around an hour
obviously it depends on how much practice you want to do
dry wasp
the watcher knights, it's the fight that i really hate
true palm
theres some beginner routes for any% that makes them easier, but all skills is going to have the easiest watchers fight
its just 3 ddarks on each watcher and they die
and you get dreamnails on them as they spawn so its pretty quick
i'd join the speedrunning discord in the pinned comments
true palm
oh its not mandatory to join it
we just moved over to that server from this one for a few reasons
winged arrow
Is 2 hours of speed running and getting mark or pride good
strong vessel
Depends in what you consider to be good
If you reached a personal goal, absolutely
If you're happy with it, absolutely
If you're going for a world record time, not so much? But that isn't really what matters
knotty vigil
I spent 40 minutes trying to get the explosion pogo down and I cannot do it with the life of me
snow dome
Are you definitely doing the correct one for your patch?
elfin vortex
I spent 40 minutes trying to get the explosion pogo down and I cannot do it with...
I did link them the cp version yes tami. Whats it your struggling with?
charred jolt
Umu is a bad boss<:hollowcry:648960980000440400>
Is umu the giant jelly fish that acts like an electric balloon
chrome roost
yes
sharp maple
Not my salty ass changing patch from 1.4 to 1.5 in the middle of a run because dashmaster kept killing me in deepnest and then continuing like nothing ever happened
I aint dealing with that anymore
Also i realized that perhaps since flukenest is shite in current patch i want to modify the 107 route to grab abyss shriek way earlier than it does
Might have to make more changes than i originally thought
quaint grove
well you really shouldnt be following the 106 route cuz it grabs flukenest really early for quick kills
you should follow 112 route cuz its the exact same thing but just no panths
analog monolith
Not my salty ass changing patch from 1.4 to 1.5 in the middle of a run because d...
note that afaik swapping patches in the middle of the runs is banned as per src rules
sharp maple
you should follow 112 route cuz its the exact same thing but just no panths
You never go near flukenest after getting flukenest tho except i guess on your way to fungals
sharp maple
note that afaik swapping patches in the middle of the runs is banned as per src ...
I know, i wasnt recording anyway
sharp maple
Dont sorry me smh
analog monolith
You never go near flukenest after getting flukenest tho except i guess on your w...
yes, this is why flukenest is the last non-godhome percent that 112% gets
sharp maple
Yeah thats what i mean like
Getting flukenest there already changes the route
Besides you get soul tyrant early on
For early dreamgate
analog monolith
wait is this 107 te
sharp maple
Im the only person under the sun who wants to run it
analog monolith
ks stag -> nail 4 -> flukemarm -> s+q -> nkg -> te prob
dont need to do nkg until after nail 4 is nice
sharp maple
I think getting flukenest before getting the waterways grub would be less of a detour
analog monolith
o 112 banishes grimm
sharp maple
Yea
analog monolith
u might be right
sharp maple
Either that or before dung defender as it is
But you only have shade soul then
If you go after kings brand you'd just have gotten shriek
analog monolith
also ppl actually have been discussing 107 te as a category, just. in the other server
analog monolith
i think there's been a little bit of routing but not a lot
since 112 already exists there's a decent precedent of a route
sharp maple
I wanna see
analog monolith
server's in pins if ur interested :D
stark birch
worth noting that sometime in september there is gonna be a memey 107 race between a washed cp runner and an active 106 runner relatively unfamiliar with cp...but I imagine the rough outline of that is just "follow the 112 route and see what happens", since that's what's historically happened in the few runs of 107 before
especially since it's a 107 ADB run, so inclusive of GPZ and NKG in the overworld and so much closer to 112 than 106
analog monolith
the only problem arises w/ banishment
bc u cant banish so u need 3 flames
which would prob end up being hive, dv, and 1 more
also annoying bc u have to do nail 0 hive
sharp maple
hive is ok
completed the first run of this very unoptimized category
probably had like 10 or so deaths because im washed
but sub 3h soon
also brought grimmothy into the radiance fight because hes my baby and he deserves to be in the spotlight
strong vessel
i think there's been a little bit of routing but not a lot
People keep saying this, but, like, all of the changes have been written down
It might not be fully optimized but it's fully routed
(I just need to combine the written changes with the rest of the route)
strong vessel
Im the only person under the sun who wants to run it
Also not true 😤
I think I've come across at least five now, not counting myself or gusten
terse cargo
why did that make me laugh
sonic cargo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290932216781864960/433277101487947776/anynmg_route.png
Is this map up to date?
strong vessel
Yes
sonic cargo
Ok good
strong vessel
Huh, except for one thing; you kill vengefly king and don't get the geo rocks in greenpath
And also don't get the geo rocks in fungal wastes
quaint grove
you also skip mantis village journal and get the one above kings station instead
strong vessel
No, the mantis village one is specifically for the nail 1 route
KS journal is already there
elfin vortex
Christ that map is painful to read. And ye what icefire said
strong vessel
Yeah it's the entire any% route in one image lmao
quaint grove
oh yea i see
elfin vortex
Yeah it's the entire any% route in one image lmao
The entire 112% route one was beautiful tho lmao
Oop soz for ping
strong vessel
Wait can I see that again
sonic cargo
ok
elfin vortex
Wait can I see that again
Is outdated/not up to qual of final maps iirc??? cuz its from the pre final edit stage of when we made the guide but still v cool to see (thx to artzfreak for the lovely maps they made)
untold parrot
YES I DID IT
i (did not) get world record!
61 hrs. of playtime
for goofin around
wicked trench
Most used are 1221 (downpatch guides are somewhere I don't remember) - 1432 (you can downpatch in stream "betas" of the game) - 1.5+ (is the latest)
signal sand
hey, i'm new to hollow knight speedruns, can I use a skin during my run ? And where do you submit pantheon runs ? there's no antheon category in speedruncom
twin swallow
skins require modding the game which is banned under submission rules unless explicitly stated
pantheons qualify as Individual Levels (ILs) and come under the Level Leaderboard instead of the Full-game Leaderboard, e.g. https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/level/Pantheon_of_the_Master
signal sand
Okayyy thx !
twin swallow
tardy sapphire
I am training on the shadows skip do you have some advices to help me to pass it correctly
sharp maple
which one, any%?
vestal mountain
accidently closed but i just did P5 in 23:46
failed collector skip, but managed to do white defender, dung defender and traitor lord skip
elfin vortex
Are you recording your runs? You could submit them for a decent place
vestal mountain
wow... THAT high?!?
elfin vortex
Honestly its a pretty good place but yeah the top 10 runners are insane
vestal mountain
also, is it worth in P5 speedruns to use nailmaster glory/shaman stone? just feels like fury of the fallen + strength + quick slash insane dps nullifies the dps of anything else
strong vessel
Shaman stone is worth it, nmg isn't really
elfin vortex
Better idea to ask in the IL channel of the new speedrunning server
strong vessel
The charm build with fury is shaman + quick slash + strength + fury; without fury is shaman + quick slash + strength + grubsong + whatever you want (usually steady body or dream wielder)
vestal mountain
i use mark of pride instead of shaman... and i never get used to steady body :/
trust me i tried using it in hall of god practice
strong vessel
Steady body is hard to get used to; mark of pride doesn't save time
elfin vortex
Sbody is op af. 100% worth getting used to
strong vessel
It's comfy to use but if you want to improve your time, shaman + using spells is good
snow dome
Once you try with Steady Body a bunch you'll figure out what it's doing and honestly doing pantheons without it now feels really hard for me.
vestal mountain
true, might change it to shaman + longnail to give me still a slightly better comfy range and having 1 spare notch to slap shaman for overcharm
elfin vortex
Once you try with Steady Body a bunch you'll figure out what it's doing and hone...
Saaaame. It feels bizzare to play the pantheons without sbody now
strong vessel
Also, steady body is only if you aren't using fury
vestal mountain
Also, steady body is only if you aren't using fury
well i do try to aim for like top 20 or smth, andd the strat uses fury soooo
vestal mountain
I assume you overcharm and use Fury in your 1 notch slot?
nope the build i used was actually didnt have overcharm
strong vessel
Well, it'd save time if you did it hitless otherwise
snow dome
I was replying to GIF there, but sure
strong vessel
Yeah, just want them to know
snow dome
Yeah, that's fair. Overcharm is """Optimal""" <.<
strong vessel
(Also it's super uncomfy)
snow dome
Just git gud
strong vessel
Btw, I will absolutely not respond if you call me gif
elfin vortex
Please continue calling them gif
strong vessel
😤
vestal mountain
overcharm is "slightly" faster concidering its a save of few frames of having to take damage twice instead of 3 times (mask binding of course) and as long as u gud enough to not throw up to some shit, you will have enough lifeblood to face tank thro Grimm, NKG, collector, White defender and traitor lord
steady lynx
Please continue calling them gif
How do you pronounce that?
vestal mountain
jif
elfin vortex
Gif > jif
vestal mountain
i was joking with jif
i call it GIF too
ngl i want to have the perk of doing P5 hitless
what charms should i use for that? like obv mark of pride for the comfy range to not throw
but what else?
strong vessel
Some people use elegy, I think?
vestal mountain
that might work, but dammit its so loud
also then u get like 0 soul xd
cant wait to use cursed p5 hittless build with elegy, shaman, strength and kingsoul
subtle mountain
Can't use kingsoul in P5 sadly
terse cargo
oh right
subtle mountain
Id swap it for quick slash and longnail
subtle mountain
Ye so I wouldn't save file edit
subtle mountain
I would submit it but its up to you
tidal owl
I hate the watcher knights
analog monolith
save editing wouldnt work either
bc u need voidheart to enter, so u cant even have kingsoul equipped when entering
timber rampart
I'm doing the path of pain for the first time come talk with me in the hollow Knight voice chat please need help
sharp maple
aight got splits for the 107 run time to do it
tacit parrot
NEW RECORD !!
terse cargo
personal best
worthy glacier
personal best
It's their own record :)
fiery fox
twilit crater
is there a mawlek% category
where you just rush mawlek at the start and the run ends when you beat it LOL
digital jewel
no
true palm
theres 4 mask shards which is close enough tbh
twin swallow
Yeah mawlek% would be the first third of 4 Mask Shards except you skip 1 grub
sharp maple
I will never submit a run because i simply get too sleepy in the middle of them and stop the timer and continue the run the next day
My runs will live in my heart alone 😌
misty crater
The primary memory I have of speed running is going for the 5 hour achievement and losing 3k geo in deepnest
Stalking Devouts suck my soul like caprisun
vestal mountain
smh who need mawlek%, i still yet to see anyone do skurry grass%
terse cargo
because it's a very unoptimised category
strong vessel
Two other people have run it
terse cargo
two? that's surprising
twin swallow
yeah, glitchy and quacksliver
strong vessel
Unoptimized ≠ unpopular (though it is relatively unpopular but that's not the point)
3 is actually not a small amount
tacit parrot
personal best
Yeah !!
hardy vessel
how can i put icons on my splits? I tried to put some pngs but it didn't work
obtuse veldt
is there a category for breaking every geo pile
past edge
steady shell
niice
quaint grove
is there a category for breaking every geo pile
yes, its a category on a spreadsheet pinned in the misc channel in the hksr discord (invitaiton link in pins of this channel)
echo rover
how do i get aspsid arena spke kill more consistent
quaint grove
exotic cairn
hey @true palm i don't have permission to send messages in the low% channel for some reason but current patch can go much lower than we thought
i got invisible THK and I'm absolutely not runnign it back
so i'm just going to submit this and do something else
analog monolith
bc ur in hk-main
analog monolith
lmao
exotic cairn
thank you
analog monolith
np 
rocky terrace
just hit a 19:12
paper solar
just hit a 17:38 run guys
pale fog
Hello guys, I hope you are all doing well. I am a beginner who wants to try out speedrunning for the first time and wanted to go for the True Ending category to make the runs shorter (and because I want to battle Radiance once again), do you know if someone has the splits for True Ending or do I have to make them myself ?
I found splits for every categories but True Ending, for True Ending I found good guides, savestates but no splits
I joined the speedruning discord, will aim to make my own splits based on info I see there ^^
sharp maple
i believe i made the splits myself for TE, I dont remember getting them anywhere lol
but I'd be very surprised if they werent public somewhere
true palm
longer cats have splits done, theres also hksplitmaker
smoky lark
Anyone got advice for when you keep ending up too low on CP e-pogo?
nvm i found the issue
true palm
depends on the epogo tbh
theres a ton of them on cp and like triple the amount on 1221
true palm
its still relatively new and thats why some people do some of the older methods
smoky lark
I don't know why im learning CP method when i plan to do all skills
which is on 1221
i just feel like it's useful to know all the skips
terse cargo
cp all skills exist
terse cargo
also true
true palm
the majority of all skills is doing and showcasing dash slash lever skips, which are gone on cp ye
the routes completely different
true palm
you have to go through all of sanctum which is terrible
and you have to do weird things to get shade soul
smoky lark
Yeah 1221 looks more fun to me too
true palm
you also get dash slash at the end which removes half the fun of all skills
not even 1xx categories get early dash slash
smoky lark
How hard is e-pogo on 1221?
true palm
the bread and butter epogo for 1221 is pretty easy
you just jump and pogo twice then dash
true palm
way easier than a fb skip
true palm
all you have to do is know the visual cues
no turnarounds or anything
fireborn covers it in the any% tutorial, its timestamped in the mantis claw video
idk if pisces covered it in their all skills guide
if you like the cp fb skip it works on 1221 if you want to do it still
hardy vessel
Can I still downpatch with GOG?
steady lynx
Kinda
true palm
think you're supposed to email GOG support and beg them for 1.2.2.1
steady lynx
If you want 1424
true palm
basically gog just has the last few patches, and because team cherry doesn't play test their shit they released like 300 1.5 patches that kicked out 1221, but i've heard if you email gog you can get a copy
based on the how long 1221's been off and based on how its the most requested patch and its still not an option i wouldn't expect them to add it any time soon to the list
steady lynx
Seriously, feckin delete the two completely useless 1.5 patches
hardy vessel
basically gog just has the last few patches, and because team cherry doesn't pla...
oh, dang
true palm
like the 1.5 patches actually have some softlocks and barely function
hardy vessel
so how can i play in 1221?
true palm
write gog support an email asking them for 1221
steady lynx
Tk apparently emailed and asked for 1221 for which he got a broken link
true palm
idr who got it but i know somebody got a copy
they wanted to know if there was a way they could distribute it but obviously gog is drm free and theres piracy concerns
steady lynx
I still have gog1221 and gog1118 saved from before the 1.5 invasion
true palm
tbh i kind of wish we could just hand out 1221 to the gog folks
especially since i've heard of people buying the gog copy specifically for easier downpatch
steady lynx
That's why I did it back then
Then I proceeded to never finish a PC run like an absolute clown
true palm
so write up gog an email, and you can start with cp for now twigg, if you're running any% its pretty easy to swap back and forth
hardy vessel
Apparently theres a link in speedrun.com with 1221
hardy vessel
so write up gog an email, and you can start with cp for now twigg, if you're run...
whats cp? sorry, im new here
true palm
current patch
true palm
for reference the wr holder in cp is a top 1221 runner that ran the patch for like a week
steady lynx
At least there's always access to 1432 which is the single best patch allowed for cp runs
true palm
i think 15 is justifiable actually now
for a single reason
turning off fucking screen shake
steady lynx
If you run 112 also dashmaster
steady lynx
Or some meme categories but who can keep up with those?
true palm
i honestly think the plus sides of 1432 are basically just sporeshroom, inventory cancels, inventory out of dash, and cg1 cheese
plus sides of 15 are no screen shake, fixed dash master, easier seer skip
true palm
unironically might be faster to fb at the bottom of a drop to avoid hardfall lmao
steady lynx
But you need the soul for stupid skips
true palm
i'm just thinking fungal wastes
i guess you need soul in greenpath now CUZ YOU CAN DO THE FUCKING MOSSKIN POGO AND I"M STILL MAD I THOUGHT THEY PATCHED THAT OUT AND WENT AROUND EVERYTIME
and i'm still mad that i literally wrote it in my guide
steady lynx
Wtf
true palm
they literally fucking just hate speedrunners gusten
steady lynx
Console low sub 1 as soon as I don't loathe the category
true palm
like if there wasn't already enough evidence half the things they patch are just a middle finger to us i think thats the perfect example
they literally have the same particle effects and explosion range
true palm
oh shoot ye its suboptimal
go back to working on silk song no speed tech to see here
no need to roll out patch 1.6 to remove mosskin pogo
steady lynx
Actually, if you put a shade spawn under Monomon, that'd be so slow, please don't do that
true palm
is fca possible with dmaster? (use acronyms so they can't understand)
steady lynx
That's a big maybe
uneven urchin
Hi! What's up?
steady lynx
You'd probably need wings still, and you'd have to shade skip to monomon and then again to get out of archives
Fca is possible with fireball stalls
true palm
refer to shade skip as ss next time, their Speed Tech scanning algorithm won't be able to detect if ss means shade skip or one of the 1000 other meanings
i'll delete the message above in 4 hours before the daily scan finds it
steady lynx
Doesn't SS stand for Skyward Sword?
terse cargo
ss
sharp maple
shaved 25 minutes
tomorrow I shave another 25
ignore the +3:30 at the end i was running against scuffed splits
terse cargo
pog
shy aspen
Awwww…I was watching a stream who got so close to a new current patch true ending WR and he died to radiance
terse cargo
wait who
shy aspen
That's a 90 seconds lead in total at the Void Heart split, it was just such a pity
shy aspen
They're streaming on bilibili tho, a Chinese video site.
terse cargo
i figured
hardy vessel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arrhoJmb89g&lc=UgyPF7wrYY4gMIqm5zd4AaABAg&ab_cha...
GG!
is there any good glitches for the current patch?
cuz as far as i know baldur instakill and that inventory fall doesn't work
fresh kite
First attempt at a speedrun. I practiced a ton of random skips over the years because of randos, so I was able to follow the normal any% route. Even got QGA, tho I think I spent like 15 minutes on it lmao
snow dome
cuz as far as i know baldur instakill and that inventory fall doesn't work
True Ending All Glitches is optimally ran on the current patch. Check that out.
strong vessel
In terms of minor glitches, a lot of things still work but most are less useful to speedruns
coral trellis
hardy vessel
True Ending All Glitches is optimally ran on the current patch. Check that out.
oh alr, ill take a look
frigid rover
B
knotty vigil
My first P3 run was in 10:31
knotty vigil
Is there any hope for noob speedrunners these days?
digital jewel
plenty of it
haughty fossil
yeah i've got pretty far
normal aspen
same
hard verge
I think I have a potential strat for Any% NMG; the use of Dashmaster:
When we are going to get claw we can get Dashmaster too and then save an quit; and then when we come back Ancestral Mound, equip Dashmaster and deafeat Gruz Mother. The we get Shaman Stone, but not equip it; keep Dashmaster on. Then do the Shade Skip get the DN, etcetera. Once we reach the spire however, we can go to the bench; sit and then equip Shaman Stone. Defeat Watcher Knight, go back to the bench, equip Dashmaster again, get Crystal Heart, go to the archives. Then sit at the the bench and remove Dashmaster and equip Shaman Stone. Defeat Uumuu, get Monomon and then go to the bench and equip Dashmaster again. Then head QG as usual, go to the arena and complete it and then go to the bench above it and equip Shaman Stone. Then get Herrah as normal. Then sit at the bench at the Den and equip Dashmaster again, go to the Black Egg; sit at the Bench and remove Dashmaster and equip Shaman Stone. Then do the final boss.
I think this will be potentially faster than the normal route; though I don’t know for sure since I keep getting stuck on Watcher Knights. If anyone wants to try it; you are most welcome to do it.
analog monolith
i think ppl have timed this, dashmaster takes ~40s to pick up, and doesnt save enough time to be worth, even if u run it overcharmed the entire run
stark birch
Dashmaster (alongside Fury of the Fallen) is very commonly flirted with by newer speedrunners because of the promise of going faster; unfortunately, with the time it takes to get and equip the charm it doesn't come close to paying for itself on time. Even if you overcharmed Shaman + Dashmaster for the entire duration of the run from post-claw on, you still wouldn't save enough time back to be worthwhile, and overcharming would compromise other speed strats that require you to be able to take multiple damage tanks without a bench.
analog monolith
hi quack
stark birch
lmao same brain
fresh kite
Why did this get unpinned btw?
plucky cosmos
What is the easiest route you would reccomend someone going for the 5 hour speedrun?
weary root
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
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weary root
this one^
hardy vessel
Idk, not really, only the inventory skip and QGA ?
Whats QGA? (Sorry, I'm rly new in speedrunning)
tacit parrot
Whats QGA? (Sorry, I'm rly new in speedrunning)
Queen's Garden Acid Skip.
I also had so much luck on that one.
Almost died to Gauntlet in Garden tho
Lol
I also kinda need help, what is this ?
hardy vessel
I also kinda need help, what is this ?
is it in speedrun.com?