you can easily back up your saves if you want to have a clear saves page for speedrunning tho
#speedrunning
vagrant warren
fiery spear
right. do I just backup this file: C:\Users(user)\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
would that work
stuck raptor
that is a folder
fiery spear
yes
stuck raptor
?tag saves
sick ravenBOT
Save Files and Global Settings location
Windows:
- Press
WindowsKey+R - Copy & Paste this:
%AppData%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight - Press
Enter
MacOS:
- Open Spotlight (
Command+Space) and typeterminal - Press
Enterto open the terminal - Paste this into the terminal window:
open ~/Library/Application\ Support/unity.Team\ Cherry.Hollow\ Knight/ - Press Enter
Linux:
- Using your preferred method, navigate to:
~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
GamePass
C:/Users/%USERNAME%/AppData/Local/Packages
or %AppData%..\Local\Packages
fiery spear
you guys are crazy for speedrunning this game
I thought Any% would be easy since ive done so much in this game, and yet I ragequit after dying in queens gardens. this was the most frustrating shit ive ever done, since I died in Uumuu 5 times (all of them wasting like 2-3 minutes each), once in Watcher knights and like 10 times trying the queens gardens acid skip. When I finally got it, I died a bit later and just gave up
if it weren't for all those deaths, I feel like it would've been a solid first run (other than the fact that I forgot to open the gate in city, so after lemm I had to go all the way back through the bridge)
I really wanted a first run to compare future times to, but I dont think ill be doing this again. props to u all for being able to do it
clever fable
i'm having trouble with it too tbh, i got Watcher Knights down on the first try in the run i just did and then died twice trying to get to crystal heart and that was enough to end my run and make me take a break
fiery spear
btw when I was trying to speedrun, after bench warping I couldnt dash or swing my nail until I opened the controls menu. any idea why? these are my controls
mossy brook
If you were speedrunning for an actual run to submit you aren't allowed to use mods btw
weary root
btw when I was trying to speedrun, after bench warping I couldnt dash or swing m...
it's because of how using mouse controls work on 1221
fiery spear
it's because of how using mouse controls work on 1221
oh so there's literally no way around it?
weary root
there is a program that runs in the background called blue.exe that binds your mouse buttons to keyboard inputs
you can find it if you join the speedrunning server (link in the pins of this channel) and search in #resources for "blue.exe"
fiery spear
I have smth similar. that works
fiery spear
there is a program that runs in the background called blue.exe that binds your m...
btw what is that channel? im kind of curious, since it just says "no access" to me
weary root
uh there's an archived resources channel here from when this server hosted the speedrunning community
but we moved to our own server a few years back
cursive arch
Im new to speedrunning hollow knight and need some help with downpatching hollow knight: The downpatch itself worked fine, but the problem is that my ps5 controller wont connect to the game anymore. i had the same issue when i first played the game but it worked just fine after enabling the x box configuration support. It also works in the current version of hollow knight. One weird thing i noticed is, that it tells me that the controller connected as soon as i stop the (wired) connection by pulling out the cable. Has anyone got an idea on how to fix this? The patch is 1221
knotty vigil
@still ice collector scream skip is load based, which depends on how well your device can run the game
Essentially, it’s P2W
still ice
<@651050737429643265> collector scream skip is load based, which depends on how ...
ugh
I can do it but not consistently
welp
thanks anyway
knotty vigil
Yeah
lofty willow
what's scream skip
knotty vigil
Getting hit as the boss screams so you have control over the player
Normally you’d be stunned
knotty vigil
No console can as well
Like white defender, if you have ifrsmes while inside the hit box during the scream
It cancels the i frames, but you get hit and that lets you move again
lofty willow
BUDDAAAAA
lofty willow
It cancels the i frames, but you get hit and that lets you move again
cool feature thx
knotty vigil
lol
lofty willow
oop typo
knotty vigil
Most are pretty easy, except for collector
If you have a bad device it’s pretty much impossible
lofty willow
do you need the exact frame?
knotty vigil
No clue, all I know is that the better your pc the sooner you can move from the transition into collector from elder hu
lofty willow
knotty vigil
Again, literally P2W
steady lynx
So basically
lofty willow
what's nmg?
this channel has no slow mode so imma learn speedrunning stuff to chat here
steady lynx
The timer for when the Collector will be able to start moving starts a bit before the load ends on PC's with slower loads, I think it was even intended to do that but whatever PC TC tested it on probably had slow enough loads to where it became impossible
And they never even considered testing it on faster loads, or the testers didn't think of trying
wraith trellis
what's nmg?
No major glitches (inventory scream skip is a major glitch)
steady lynx
Not exactly what happens, but abbreviated so I don't have to write a whole ass essay about how and why loads in HK work the way they do
steady lynx
still ice
But it’s banned in nmg so
eh thats fine
knotty vigil
If you aren’t speedrunning nmg abuse as many glitches as you want idk
steady lynx
I love the inside joke we developed with spaghetti, to the point where having Scarab mapi installed adds the spaghetti icon to the title screen
knotty vigil
Instead do glitched cats
steady lynx
Hey, they bought the game, they can do whatever they want, if people want to submit runs on src they have to follow some rules, but other than that, who cares about if someone does glitches
knotty vigil
TC I suppose
steady lynx
TC can't stop us
They're too busy making sure main menu duping doesn't work in Silksong (We'll find a way to do it)
wraith trellis
If they're as talented at patching things in ss as they were in hk we shouldn't worry
steady lynx
They patched the most fun glitches tbh
I miss the days of putting cpeak on top of THK to instakill
wraith trellis
Oh I didn't know cp room dupe doesn't allow that
steady lynx
TC literally made THK immune to most hazards to avoid specifically that
In I think 1.1?
wraith trellis
Wha-
That's indeed one of the ways to prevent players from doing that I guess
steady lynx
My favourite is when they thought they fixed flukes, made THK take damage to them and then realised they didn't fix flukes at all, made THK immune to flukes and flukes were then made broken in another way
wraith trellis
Yeah the fluke case is pretty impressive, I watch 112 apb runs so I saw flukes being put to contribution quite a bit and I even tried some of the tricks myself, I'm impressed how effective sly 2nd phase and soul master 2nd phase "instakills" are, among all the other time saves
sturdy glade
Me when I have to actually do colos (I don't have invuln or kill dupe wave skips)
steady lynx
I think the best showcase of 1114 flukes is just All Bosses Hidden Dreams
steady lynx
Favourite moment in any category
Also 47:40
We really have a category where the main premise is noclip and kill dupes
wraith trellis
I knew about the gorgeous husk but it's the first time I see that with wk, slightly broken indeed 
steady lynx
Have you seen colos?
At the end of colo 3 there are like 30+ enemies on screen and the game is almost unplayable
wraith trellis
iirc I heard it can desync enemies with the waves, but I don't think I've ever seen a full run
coral shore
TC literally made THK immune to most hazards to avoid specifically that
I do wonder if they prevented specfiically that
because you made a good point in Blue Lake, in 1.1 mms wasn't a thing
and it's not like you could bring a dupe to THK without mms
(wasn't a thing in a sense of not being discovered at the point of release)
I do wonder what was going on in their mind when they changed bosses to be immune to certain hazards
steady lynx
I think so, maybe TC removed it to prevent something else
Like, we know almost every boss is very vulnerable to the respawn plane
It being able to instantly kill LK and all
coral shore
wait now I wonder if you can kill THK by going oob 
coral shore
hm
steady lynx
And we allow enemies going OoB
coral shore
ok I do want to test that now lol
coral shore
I think so, maybe TC removed it to prevent something else
yeah I just wonder what
steady lynx
Do we have debug tools to just change the position of enemies
coral shore
no way there were like "what if they find a way to kill thk using this specific room, we should change thk now"
i don't think so but I just want to go oob and wait for thk to teleport on me
steady lynx
THK and the concept of taking damage has always been woozy
See, dung flukes on 1.4
I thought THK was bound to only teleport within the bounds of the room
rapid nest
yeah im pretty sure he is
coral shore
idk I never tried
rapid nest
python while you're testing that you should see what happens when you kill pv in thks arena 
steady lynx
But seriously, I'm like 90% sure essentially every single boss will die if they touch the respawn plane
coral shore
python while you're testing that you should see what happens when you kill pv in...
thk arena as active?
steady lynx
Just mod the game and remove the floor
rapid nest
thk arena as active?
yeah probably
coral shore
ok
steady lynx
Also try killing THK in PV's arena
steady lynx
Guess you have to finish HoG
steady lynx
Now you have to reach the PV statue
rapid nest
yeah hog dupes are very cool
i tried doing this dupe myself but i couldnt find a way to get around the respawn void at the bottom of hog
coral shore
wow
steady lynx
Oh, you entered a boss arena so HoG is still there
coral shore
nothing strange happens dang
rapid nest
steady lynx
I want to know what happens anyway, for fun
coral shore
I don't want to specifically target thk and not pv tho that sounds unfun
fiery spear
coral shore
Damn that's crazy
steady lynx
<#283680756159741953>
You can not pay me to leave this chat
rapid nest
oh another interesting thing would be to load p4 and then kill pv in hog
fiery spear
Are you sure about that
steady lynx
I think killing PV in any Godhome arena but it's own just makes the game count the current boss as defeated
rapid nest
oh maybe pv active then
steady lynx
That might just finish P4
rapid nest
exactly
steady lynx
Since you enter P4 after loading PV arena it'll set the "in a pantheon" flag to true
steady lynx
I got banned from the other chats after speaking the truth
People don't wanna hear the lore implications of that bugs generally live for like a week
sturdy glade
LMAO
coral shore
hk disc is actually surprisingly chill if you only speak with chill people
sturdy glade
Guys old cod lobbies are chill if you talk with the chill people
rapid nest
hk disc is actually surprisingly chill if you only speak with chill people
hk disc is suprisingly chill if you automatically block anyone you dont know
coral shore
<:feelspkman:639636442821165056> hk disc is suprisingly chill if you automatical...
true
oops sorry for ping
rapid nest
wtf a ping in hkmain?!?!
sturdy glade
Is 4 cheevos too many btw
steady lynx
neopets forums are surprisingly chill if you avoid the doctor
sturdy glade
What's minimum cheevos
steady lynx
At least 5
coral shore
is lurien a cheevo?
steady lynx
All dreamers are
sturdy glade
Is hornet?
coral shore
I wonder if min cheevos nmms is just low% nmms
rapid nest
wtf i got snailed at snailing myself 🤯
steady lynx
Hornet is
sturdy glade
Idr any cheevos
rapid nest
I wonder if min cheevos nmms is just low% nmms
except you have to afk for 8 hours at the end of the run
coral shore
oh right lol
steady lynx
Optimally you just get stuck between two loads for 8 hours so almost no game time passes
pale bear
yo no slowmode
sturdy glade
Idk you're assuming I don't take 10+ hours
coral shore
i mean I don't think taking 10 hours on blind low% nmms run is like surprising tbh
it's a hard run
rapid nest
Optimally you just get stuck between two loads for 8 hours so almost no game tim...
oh yeah you can probably just run into a really long load with early control
steady lynx
It might be the hardest run we have on the boards
coral shore
if you don't practice it's very easy to fail a lot of things
steady lynx
oh yeah you can probably just run into a really long load with early control
I was thinking of doing a room dupe so you go into loads that constantly put you into a wall so you instantly go back
steady lynx
I'd say yes
rapid nest
dont think so
rapid nest
oh right crossroads
sturdy glade
Ok it's just low%
coral shore
wait I didn't know you can just noclip into p4 hm
steady lynx
low% but with a 9 hour loading zone simulator at the end
Have worse loads to get better times
coral shore
rapid nest
wait I didn't know you can just noclip into p4 hm
its not useful for anything but low% p4
steady lynx
You actually need all 4 beaten to unlock P5
sturdy glade
What's max% no cheevos
sturdy glade
No mask shards or vessel frags
steady lynx
Most bosses are out of the question
steady lynx
Idk, I'm better at getting all of the achievements
sturdy glade
Gruzmom
coral shore
That might just finish P4
ok killing pv in hog just moves you to the next boss and doesn't finish p4 sadly
steady lynx
Dive is cheevo locked
coral shore
that would be really funny if you could finish pantheons by just killing last bosses
rapid nest
seems to be 33%
steady lynx
I think you can get Shade Soul and Wraiths at least, that'll be your main damage
sturdy glade
i think there might be solid insights in #misc ngl
steady lynx
But if we type here we might get Graig's attention
coral shore
don't worry Gusten
rapid nest
oh wait nvm bv is an achievement so only 30%
coral shore
steady lynx
You could have worded that any other way
olive sphinx
Whats considered a "good score" for path of pain? Like not pro speedrun just good
stuck raptor
whatever you decide
weary root
Im new to speedrunning hollow knight and need some help with downpatching hollow...
Yeah 1221 didn't have support for some controller types.
If you join the speedrunning server (link in the pins of this channel) then find the #tech-support channel there's a post pinned there that has a bunch of controller troubleshooting stuff
atomic vessel
Hey Can someone help me downpatch to 1.2.2.1 im having trouble doing it. and im not sure what im doing wrong.
weary root
What have you done so far?
atomic vessel
well i watched this youtube video from 3 years ago and it made me do WIN+R some random steam thing and copy a code into a blank slot and i waited for like 30 mins and nothing happend
weary root
?tags
sick ravenBOT
weary root
?tag steambetas
sick ravenBOT
Make sure you have the correct game version for your mods.
-Modinstaller takes version 1.4.3.2 (and is no longer support)
-Scarab takes version 1.5 (set beta to "None")
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283470827738103810/1024160413895639050/Untitled-1.png
weary root
You can downpatch with this method it's a lot easier^
weary root
It should be downloading it rn
atomic vessel
Oh
i didnt see that
yeah its downloading
cool thank you so much
it worked thank you
weary root
fiery spear
(real)
past edge
sem danos / no damage
fiery spear
btw are watcher knights different in 1.2.2.1? I feel like they start rolling offscreen, which doesnt happen in 1.5
clever fable
1.2.2.1 will roll at you from off screen and also not do the back roll I believe are the main differences
steady lynx
April fools was 4 days ago
lofty flare
@atomic vessel the guide you were watching is to have 2 versions installed at once, most speedrunners have 3 or 4
rapid nest
wtf thats insane
steady lynx
damn that's crazy
wraith trellis
Done with the famous charm build that makes you deal about 100 damage per hit I see
digital jewel
why is the title world record
wraith trellis
Bruh
Sorry about that lol I was doing several things at once so I only checked the timestamps you sent
steady lynx
Sorry about that lol I was doing several things at once so I only checked the ti...
Nah, that "bruh" was because I have an emote just named 11 so when I try to type timestamps it can become like 1
11
wraith trellis
ooh
I see
digital jewel
where have you seen ranked times of people killing absolute radiance no damage
rapid nest
digital jewel
I guess you're right then. Congrats on the World Record
near nova
im so confused by that video lmao
lofty flare
Same bro
past edge
im so confused by that video lmao
Don't worry, it's a prank
analog pawn
Out of curiosity for how off the numbers are I did some math, so first two phases I count 16 nail hits and I will count all as pure nail with strength (even though some hits where with elegy ranged attack). This is 512 damage, adding in defenders crest we get around 21 dmg more from the hits I counted.
The absolute radiance has 950 health for these two phases. This means that your nail does 58 damage. This is close to damage with fury and strength which is 56 but you are full health and doesn't have the effect around the edges from fury
steady lynx
Even then, even if you somehow deal the full 3000 damage per hit that it in theory would take to OHKO her, she still has to transition between phases and the extra hit to end every phase, plus actually finishing any attack she queued up
So I really believe the nail damage was just set to 1000 or something
coral shore
pretty sure this run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeq-xGjAbY&t=2s is faster
topaz fox
Porco2 io ci metto tipo 10 minuti
steady lynx
This is an English server.
topaz fox
Ok i will not speak italian sorry
digital jewel
mea culpa
wraith trellis
pretty sure this run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeq-xGjAbY&t=2s is faster
I love how a big time save of an actual world record for a boss over a cheated one comes from platforming skill
steady lynx
At least I got to write a really long rejection reason on src
wraith trellis
don't tell me that was submitted
steady lynx
knotty vigil
:)
wraith trellis
digital jewel
submitted to what
steady lynx
True Ending
lofty flare
Practicing overcharming pantheons sucks and I can’t even do it until I get back to my pc.
supple lagoon
iirc you are not
digital jewel
damn that's crazy
sacred thunder
Who would have thought
steady lynx
I'm truly shocked
past edge
Happens / Moscou
formal bough
english server, use english please
past edge
prime cosmos
So nix
lofty flare
Yea?
prime cosmos
Just curious again, do yall beat godtamer/white defender and other dream bosses on the run?
Apart of the one enededs for awoken nail
lofty flare
Just curious again, do yall beat godtamer/white defender and other dream bosses ...
Actually yes
prime cosmos
Huh, and whys that?
lofty flare
King soul is a % so we do need 1800
lofty flare
?
prime cosmos
Seer ascension
lofty flare
No we need 2400 so we get gpz and the other dream bosses
prime cosmos
Huh on my last save i dont remember beating white defender
lofty flare
You don’t normally need many of the dream bosses for pantheons, I remember hearing somewhere that it counts if u do the normal boss
prime cosmos
Or getting essence tree
lofty flare
Huh on my last save i dont remember beating white defender
I don’t think we do actually
I haven’t 100% memorized the route
I do know that the WR is barely under 3 hours by Monstah
prime cosmos
Yeah i think wd isnt required at all
lofty flare
Oh wait
I remember
Yes we do
I’m pretty sure it’s a % and the essence routing is very very tight.
prime cosmos
White defender? I dont think so
lofty flare
Not sure if it’s a % but it is done for the essence routing
And we do overcharm pantheons
sacred thunder
The route doesn’t go for soul tyrant
Thus you need dung and gpz to make up for the loss of essence
prime cosmos
So one is ignored
lofty flare
Yeah
wraith trellis
Read #rules-and-info
digital jewel
that's unfair :/
wraith trellis
Because that's an official server of the hollow knight community which is literally pinned
Asking to follow the rules isn't being mean
<@&283547423706447872> again I guess
supple lagoon
because it is an official server
and it is for spreading information and helping people, instead of selfishly wanting attention
barren yew
stfu
supple lagoon
finally it isn't even his server
potent mountain
he's in the speedrun server
barren yew
🥴
potent mountain
idk if you wanna wathc out for them there
digital jewel
why are the mods treating this guy so unfairly smh
past edge
Speedban unfairless% NMG
steady lynx
In this person's defence, the submission let me write one of the funnier rejection messages I've written ever
tough field
Hey guys Im trying to play the game in version 1.2.2.1 but it feels laggier than current version like theres some imput lag
sturdy glade
Play on it more
The input lag will become close to a non issue
And close background apps to limit lag somewhat
tough field
Yea I remember I got used to it a while ago but today I just came back and wanted to do a speedrun for fun
for 1 day I think I'll just go to current version 
sturdy glade
Smh run on patches even older than 1.2 instead
lofty flare
Smh run on patches even older than 1.2 instead
Lmaooo
lofty flare
for 1 day I think I'll just go to current version <:EggySit:919941437460729906>
There are 1.4.3.2 any% categories
And Anyag is ram on 1432 but it’s quite a hard category.
lofty flare
Rly?
I’m not an ag runner I wouldn’t know, does the room dupe only work on 1.5 or smth?
analog pawn
on 1575 you can open inventory in mms noclip, therefore it is prefered
stable quarry
Hey guys Im trying to play the game in version 1.2.2.1 but it feels laggier than...
Good fps helps you want like 200-250 consistent fps
lofty flare
On a difficulty scale of 1 to 10 how would you guys rate clawless blue lake skip?
sturdy glade
Fair enough
steady lynx
Btw Arconifer, any chance you'll get a 5th achievement for your birthday?
sturdy glade
Which one should I get
steady lynx
Test of Resolve
next jungle
very new to this, but i managed to get a 2 hour 16 minute time
sturdy glade
Test of Resolve
Is that h2?
hazy parcel
I finally finished a low% run
hazy parcel
very new to this, but i managed to get a 2 hour 16 minute time
also, for being new, that's not that bad
next jungle
yay
hazy parcel
my first speedrun was around 3 and a half hours
next jungle
and i dont have a lot of time so i just paused it and came back
so its not technically valid
lofty flare
I finally finished a low% run
11% right?
hazy parcel
yep
lofty flare
Heard low% epogo is annoying and than I had to do it for an itemsync and it took me like 10 minutes
I’m used to my 2fb and compact dash Strats like a pathetic any% runner
hazy parcel
I actually did a shade skip, which was SO much easier
lofty flare
Dmg boost pogo fb pogo?
sturdy glade
Is one a nail pogo
lofty flare
U did a parry?
lofty flare
Or u did a dboost fb pogo fb pogo?
hazy parcel
yes that
sorry I can't think
I had the bright idea of doing every run
including category extensions
hazy parcel
eventually
hazy parcel
every. run.
lofty flare
But that just takes cdash, dash, and claw.
hazy parcel
low% godhome ending
lofty flare
So just do any% until cdash
lofty flare
*low% godhome ending*
Wait that exists?
hazy parcel
yes
lofty flare
Ok so u can still skip wings…
Unless it’s APB bc GPZ
hazy parcel
i can get wings
lofty flare
i can get wings
It’s a low% category
hazy parcel
yes, but I need broken vessel
lofty flare
Don’t remember any boss besides GPZ req wings.
hazy parcel
hang on, let me look it up
lofty flare
yes, but I need broken vessel
But u don’t have to get wings it’s a low% category
wraith trellis
Don't you need wings to get to p5 anyways ?
lofty flare
U do need void heart so wingless white palace is funnnnnnnnn 🙃
lofty flare
Don't you need wings to get to p5 anyways ?
Ohh that
Nvm u do so u can get wings no wp stall ball bullshit suffering for u
hazy parcel
I can get claw...
lofty flare
Yes I know
But wingless white palace still sucks
Even with clas
Claw
There was 1 jump before stallball discovery and now there are 0.
hazy parcel
oh wait you're talking about low% te?
lofty flare
Yeah low TE doesn’t require wings
hazy parcel
I thought you were talking about low% godhome ending
yeah wingless wp is not gonna be fun
screw the 50 hours of grinding, wingless wp is gonna be worse
sturdy glade
Don't do low te
next jungle
was it timed with livesplit? or is that in game time
it was in game but i do have live split set up now
hazy parcel
because it was in-game time, you actually did it faster. in-game time includes loading time
next jungle
my current run (also i am aware that i can do acid skips i just havent figured it out)
oh sick
hazy parcel
I'ma need to know what upgad is..
next jungle
nail 1
lofty flare
Ismas?
next jungle
im not a god gamer so i need it
hazy parcel
don't worry it's understandable. I get it as well
sturdy glade
Just
lofty flare
U do spike skips to ismas or normal route?
lofty flare
Casually adds 10 - 20 mins to any run lmao
next jungle
fr ima try acid skips in my next run
lofty flare
I mean if u just did spike and 2 acid for qga I would understand but getting into and going through waterways, especially diveless, takes time.
sturdy glade
Qga is optional and FCA is ridiculously free
lofty flare
Qga is optional and FCA is ridiculously free
Factual.
next jungle
whats fca
sturdy glade
Why ping 
next jungle
also im not learning qga for a while
sacred thunder
Qga is optional and FCA is ridiculously free
When you know the set up, I had some trouble with it before knowing that walking off the platform is like… 100% consistent
hazy parcel
also im not learning qga for a while
qga is...fun
lofty flare
When you know the set up, I had some trouble with it before knowing that walking...
For some reason I still do the dash setup
next jungle
wait what is FCA
lofty flare
Tbh qga isn’t too hard bc if u miss the setup you can wall jump back up.
sturdy glade
Its so free it doesn't matter
lofty flare
wait what is FCA
Fog canyon acid
next jungle
ohh
lofty flare
It is ridiculously easy.
next jungle
yeah i just dont currently have debug mod set up so i have to get there to practive
lofty flare
Yeah I would set it up
steady lynx
Just run good any%
next jungle
i just dunno how to mod 1221
lofty flare
Maybe do the thing and have 2 separate installations of the game
sturdy glade
Run not any%
lofty flare
One with and 1 without mods
next jungle
huh
lofty flare
i just dunno how to mod 1221
Literally easier than scarab
next jungle
u cant use scarab?
lofty flare
No
sturdy glade
Run not any%
Rose you can't say I'm wrong
steady lynx
Any% is good if the only real restriction is banning Main Menu Storage
next jungle
that explaind a lot
lofty flare
U just put modding api, assembly C sharp.dll and the debug mod
There’s a link somewhere to a custom hollow_knight_data folder with everything in it
lofty flare
Any% is good if the only real restriction is banning Main Menu Storage
That glitch is so broken that there’s an AG category for with or without it.
sacred thunder
Any% is good if the only real restriction is banning Main Menu Storage
Very factual
next jungle
my current run (also i am aware that i can do acid skips i just havent figured i...
dont mind the 3 minutes between sly and shamans i forgor its 220 geo and not 330
steady lynx
Any% NMG is possibly the most boring main category bar All Skills 1432+ NMG
lofty flare
dont mind the 3 minutes between sly and shamans i forgor its 220 geo and not 330
How…how do you geo route?
lofty flare
God don’t tell me u kill VFK
steady lynx
That glitch is so broken that there’s an AG category for with or without it.
Thanks for letting me know, us verifiers on src don't know this generally
lofty flare
FUCK
coral shore
Rose you can't say I'm wrong
🦞 is an upvote pretty sure
For downvote some have 
next jungle
LMAO
lofty flare
Thanks for letting me know, us verifiers on src don't know this generally
I forgot you were a verifier for a second I’m sorry.
rapid nest
next jungle
do remember this is my 4th ever run
rapid nest
Vfk is fine bro calm down
ok but like saving zote
steady lynx
If you're on 1432+ or just don't plan on doing devout skip VFK is optimal
lofty flare
Vfk is fine bro calm down
65 geo v 160 (they’re on 1221 so moss knights optimal)
sturdy glade
Bro ik
next jungle
he had it under control zote was fine
sturdy glade
It's not the best but like damn
This
lofty flare
If you're on 1432+ or just don't plan on doing devout skip VFK is optimal
True tho
rapid nest
me when i lose 3 seconds in my first any% speedrun where i get ismas and ddark
lofty flare
<:feelspkman:639636442821165056> me when i lose 3 seconds in my first any% speed...
Lmao hi rose
next jungle
i do get ddark
steady lynx
<:feelspkman:639636442821165056> me when i lose 3 seconds in my first any% speed...
Might as well reset
coral shore
Thanks for letting me know, us verifiers on src don't know this generally
Gusten you might want to be informed about existence of this crazy category 100% TE NMMS
I've heard wr for it was recently submitted even
sturdy glade
Just run all skills penguin
next jungle
idk man i dont feel like it
steady lynx
I'll come back to hundo soon
rapid nest
just run 112 penguin
lofty flare
@hazy parcel are you going to run ASS?
hazy parcel
ass?
next jungle
fr ill just run low TE
sturdy glade
All stag stations
lofty flare
fr ill just run low TE
All stag stations
hazy parcel
ohhh. yeah
lofty flare
More dark deepnest than I know what to do with.
sturdy glade
How the fuck did you snail me there
steady lynx
But All Bosses Base Game No Main Menu Storage is very good and dash first gives me depression
sturdy glade
I was first
lofty flare
I was first
coral shore
Refresh the discord tbh
sturdy glade
But All Bosses Base Game No Main Menu Storage is very good and dash first gives ...
I might be able to vc tomorrow and run it
next jungle
????
lofty flare
I mis replyed oof
next jungle
lol
lofty flare
Gusten are there any actual TAS categories or nah I haven’t checked yet I just check any% leaderboards every once and a while.
sturdy glade
What do you mean
steady lynx
I might be able to vc tomorrow and run it
I'm still mad that Shade cloak is required on base game
lofty flare
I'm still mad that Shade cloak is required on base game
Sadly.
lofty flare
Thought I saw one for a different game dunno but if anyone asks me to TAS lowTE I’m gonna do a thing where I don’t do that.
steady lynx
TAS is so 2010s, I'm all for the LOTAD's now
sturdy glade
Lmao
lofty flare
TAS is so 2010s, I'm all for the LOTAD's now
Lmao
sturdy glade
Smh snail + skill issue
lofty flare
I just listened to the whole mantis lords theme piano edition and it was so good.
sturdy glade
No one will ever tas low TE lol
lofty flare
Bc it literally can’t be exported
hazy parcel
when you're doing true ending blue lake shade skip and the shade fireballs, ruining your dmg boost setup
lofty flare
According to Jarlyk 10 hours of inputs would take upwards of 200 hours to export
lofty flare
And this is 6x that
steady lynx
Also because 1.4.2.4 is optimal and playing on that patch is a bad idea
sturdy glade
Wait it is
lofty flare
Essence RNG manip
Is possible but no TASer with any sort of life would of that
lofty flare
Also because 1.4.2.4 is optimal and playing on that patch is a bad idea
Yes. TASing 1432 is what keeps me up at night
sturdy glade
I said it would never be done
lofty flare
Or any 14 patch because this is 1424
The desyncs are insane and getting basic TAS tools to work is very hard.
Combine that with hours of inputs and essence rng manip
sturdy glade
I think you underestimate inf loads
steady lynx
1424 is possibly the 2nd most unstable patch, it really doesn't want to run
lofty flare
1432 being up there mb
sturdy glade
No
lofty flare
1.5 being literally impossible to even load.
steady lynx
1315 enters the room
sturdy glade
What's 1315?
lofty flare
1315 enters the room
PLEASE I WANTED TO FORGET
steady lynx
A really bad idea
sturdy glade
1315 enters the room
Don't peepoarrive this shit
steady lynx
Thankfully not optimal for anything anymore
sturdy glade
Ablb nmg
lofty flare
Thankfully not optimal for anything anymore
Thankfully good god.
sturdy glade
what
coral shore
Thankfully not optimal for anything anymore
Wdym, it's optimal for moonwalk%
sturdy glade
Nosegoes
lofty flare
Nose
steady lynx
But it also means I'd have one more patch to worry about for the AB sweep
sturdy glade
DW about it
coral shore
But it also means I'd have one more patch to worry about for the AB sweep
Just you wait till you have to worry about HD gusten
steady lynx
Sub 1:10 is free
rapid nest
does abgm get gpz before or after p5
lofty flare
I’m so confused
sturdy glade
Fuck LP ab
steady lynx
ABGM would have to kill Pale Lurker
sturdy glade
Oh yeah that discussion
formal bough
nah pale lurker is just mmc
currently not a boss, will be made clearly a boss in the next update (silksong)
rapid nest
abgm would just be a really weird mix between ge and 107
steady lynx
Pale Lurker has its name shown on screen right
So it's a boss by AB rules
Also python, I will defend ABHDNMMS no matter what
sturdy glade
Common gusten W
lofty flare
Oh ok so ab is all bosses got it
steady lynx
All Bosses is this really fun category that gets wings just to fight GPZ
analog pawn
Any% is good if the only real restriction is banning Main Menu Storage
This is true
lofty flare
All Bosses is this really fun category that gets wings just to fight GPZ
Lmao I hate that random restriction
stuck raptor
use quick cast
stuck raptor
then it's literally no different from controller
except you and your comfort with the input method
vagrant warren
Most keyboard player use the socd cleaner, so consider that if you're not using it.
lofty flare
Most keyboard player use the socd cleaner, so consider that if you're not using ...
Damnit I was gonna say that.
@chrome bramble
If you don’t have it already, courtesy of Hornet Bot
Short for "simultaneous opposite cardinal direction cleaner", the SOCD cleaner makes it so holding opposite directions will make you move in the last pressed direction instead of going neutral. It also makes it so that releasing one after holding both will make you move in the direction of the still held button. Get the SOCD cleaner on https://github.com/valignatev/socd/releases
chrome bramble
but there is one problem
well not problem
for esc isnt bound
what does it mean
and what does that do
lofty flare
Absolutely nothing, just choose what movement type u use.
chrome bramble
if thats all then thanks
lofty flare
To test if it’s working, hold left and tap right, instead of stopping for a couple frames, your character should do a full turn around for a few frames and then go back.
This allows you to keep holding left while spinning to face right, also allows for some weird shenanigans with sprites where your facing right but fireballing left
And yes it is allowed in speedruns.
chrome bramble
it worked
i found out
its because when doing vs on keyboard trying to face the other way made you strafe a bit to the right
lofty flare
Awesome! Should make that fireball skip easier, just jump to the left and then hold right for the duration of the fireballs and than let go, makes you not have to release left and makes life a lot easier.
chrome bramble
with this it wont happen
lofty flare
its because when doing vs on keyboard trying to face the other way made you stra...
I know, I’m a keyboard player.
chrome bramble
I would play controller but i find fights to be easier and more efficient on keyboard
lofty flare
?tag steambetas
sick ravenBOT
Make sure you have the correct game version for your mods.
-Modinstaller takes version 1.4.3.2 (and is no longer support)
-Scarab takes version 1.5 (set beta to "None")
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283470827738103810/1024160413895639050/Untitled-1.png
vagrant warren
Damnit I was gonna say that.
why did you ping me? I mean, nice that you also wanted to help I guess but I'm not the one with the problem LOL
lofty flare
<:elderC:598291441013358605> why did you ping me? I mean, nice that you also wa...
Sorry I forgot, reply ping sucks.
hearty steeple
k
hearty steeple
why
lofty flare
Just do the intended route.
hearty steeple
im just going back to 1.5
lofty flare
With ddark it’s probably easier
hearty steeple
spam that shit right
lofty flare
im just going back to 1.5
If that doesn’t fix the problem delete game reg
hearty steeple
delete game pog
hearty steeple
If that doesn’t fix the problem delete game reg
like in #hk-help
lofty flare
delete game pog
Game registration, not the game itself z
hearty steeple
Game registration, not the game itself z
ikik
sick ravenBOT
hearty steeple
whats that
hearty steeple
And no you won’t lose ur saves
ok thx
lofty flare
Reply ping.
lofty flare
Which is ironic coming from me.
hearty steeple
why that
lofty flare
Cuz I used to reply ping a lot
verbal stag
the whole team cherry folder
lofty flare
Ur save files are stored elsewhere it’ll be fine.
stable quarry
Really you clear registry by deleting the entire folder?
lofty flare
That’s what I do.
verbal stag
ye
stable quarry
for esc isnt bound
That is just an extra esc key. Which can be useful.
hearty steeple
its not there
anymore
i didnt delete it tho wtf
ah nvm
team cherry deleted
Nix
help i cant get off bench
chrome bramble
is there any way to use the socd cleaner without having it open
hearty steeple
socd cleaner?
vagrant warren
it's a tool for keyboard players, as explained above
vagrant warren
is there any way to use the socd cleaner without having it open
as far as I know, no. (it's kind of like saying can you use Hollow Knight without having it open, it's a program, it needs to be running to work)
chrome bramble
lol
i meant as in
make it run in background
like these apps
they arent open
but they running in back
well ig not
vagrant warren
Google is your friend
stable quarry
Ooh
chrome bramble
does the QoL mod allow you to do 1.22.1 e pogo?
formal bough
yes
chrome bramble
ty
formal bough
(but qol mod is not legal for speedruns)
chrome bramble
ik
im doing it for my 3rd "casual" playthrough
but its a speedrun skip so thats why i asked here
lofty flare
U using SOCD for a casual play through?
chrome bramble
hey man
its not really casual
but its not a real speedrun
im just doing 112 but like
again
on pc this time
because i used to play the game and speedrun on ......
switch
chrome bramble
i used to be in this server a while back but i left when i got fed up with switch
i think like 2020 i was here
pliant sail
I did the same except I lost my account and didn’t really care to get it back. Started speed running a week ago
lofty flare
Been there done that
Same.
knotty vigil
take a moment to hate on switch version of hk
it's that game and Fall Guys that be lookin' 480p on switch
chrome bramble
LOL
chrome bramble
everyone does at first
its practice
there is always some tips but practice is the main thing
you would be surprised how much better you can get just by ...... mindlessly shooting a fireball to get on a ledge that you can barely get to
for hours
lofty flare
I started running pantheons about 3 months ago
Overcharm build poggies
lofty flare
suck at the tech tho lmao
Not that bad
knotty vigil
Overcharm build poggies
yeah I use fury with QS and steady body and shamman
Ik unbreakable strength is the safer build but who cares
lofty flare
I can do this consistently with only about an hour of practice, I mean I don’t, it takes a ton of time soul gathering and it’s an awful setup, but it’s not that hard, ignore bg noise and yes this is 1.5 with QoL, it’s not an actual fun and I was bored.
lofty flare
yeah I use fury with QS and steady body and shamman
That’s… only 10 notches tho.
lofty flare
The 112 APB runners use quickslash, shamans, sbody, strength, and flukenest
Which is 13
lofty flare
penalty for any build above 10-notches
What? Why?
lofty flare
That’s an actual thing in pantheon speedrun categories?
knotty vigil
That’s an actual thing in pantheon speedrun categories?
ye
lofty flare
You only get 8? Or 9?
knotty vigil
10 notches
lofty flare
Why tf is there a 10 notch limit
weary root
There isn't a notch penalty for pantheon speedruns what
sturdy glade
Yeah what
weary root
112% runs often get 10 notches instead of 11 because they don't count for % and it's faster
knotty vigil
There isn't a notch penalty for pantheon speedruns what
I thought there was
knotty vigil
112% runs often get 10 notches instead of 11 because they don't count for % and ...
ohhhhhh my bad
bc I heard Monstah speak of it while being in Godhome, it made me think
sturdy glade
lofty flare
Lmaoo
lofty flare
The 112 APB runners use quickslash, shamans, sbody, strength, and flukenest
Wait but this build is 13 notches, I’m probably adding smth on lmao
Thank you Eisof and Arconifer I was confused af
lofty flare
Which makes up for the time loss of getting all 11?
He has like a 2:59 right? Maybe a 2:58, haven’t checked the leaderboards in a while
weary root
Yeah he hasn't done a run since the sub 3
knotty vigil
dang
pliant sail
Is there a lot of route deviation in longer categories? Any% is super precise, but is it the same for 112?
lofty flare
Not the same no.
You can completely throw a section and do another one so incredibly well you save like a minute and a half
But it depends on how hard you throw and where
pliant sail
But like does everyone run the same route?
lofty flare
Buying quick focus woulda killed Blue’s run but having an awful white palace didn’t.
stuck raptor
But like does everyone run the same route?
yes
lofty flare
But like does everyone run the same route?
No, not currently, Monstah recently adapted to early dash master that many others have not.
weary root
No the longer categories have a lot of small route differences based on preference
knotty vigil
yeah
weary root
CC is currently doing fury pantheons with 10 notches for example
stuck raptor
routing tends to be a group thing over a long period of time, when a new route is discovered, people tend to change to that.
small deviations due to skill and preference are in every category
even any% NMG
next jungle
i feel like a god
lofty flare
CC is currently doing fury pantheons with 10 notches for example
Which CC, there are too many, Cynicism?
Gj, Gj.
next jungle
this is my 4th completed speedrun
lofty flare
Ismas route?
stuck raptor
can't do QGA? go around. Can't do explosion pogo? go around. can't do mantis pogo? go around
next jungle
actually i just spent five minutes throwing myself at an acid skip and i got it
lofty flare
can't do QGA? go around. Can't do explosion pogo? go around. can't do mantis pog...
Yeah tbh going around is ur best bet when ur newer, bc those combined save about a minute.
knotty vigil
can't do QGA? go around. Can't do explosion pogo? go around. can't do mantis pog...
basically
next jungle
forgotten crossroads or fog canyon
knotty vigil
tho all that u can't even possibly sub 45
stuck raptor
the biggest exception I can think of is true ending NMG
next jungle
i did forgotten crossroads
stuck raptor
where shriek route and shade soul route were basically identical in time, but very different runs
knotty vigil
CC is currently doing fury pantheons with 10 notches for example
nice
lofty flare
forgotten crossroads or fog canyon
Can call it either.
knotty vigil
Eisog, don't u run 4 MS?
lofty flare
Which CC, there are too many, Cynicism?
^
next jungle
ah i did crossroads
knotty vigil
or wait that's Slaurent I might be thinking of
lofty flare
We call it FCA, for fog canyon acid.
sturdy glade
Cynicism
lofty flare
Minutes.
sturdy glade
Not the youtuber
lofty flare
Because you need sanctum, dive, all of that.
next jungle
i mean it saves me time because w/o it hk takes like 5 tries
wait hold up i thought dive was necessary
sturdy glade
Get shade soul instead
pliant sail
Is there a list for what counts as a percent or something
lofty flare
Not the youtuber
Ahh so the dude behind my suffering with figuring out every possible room exactly where I can use his TAS methods to get WCS in my TASes.
weary root
Eisog, don't u run 4 MS?
Nope, don't run much of anything atm cause hands suck, i've run some All Skills and a couple glitched categories though
sturdy glade
No lol
lofty flare
Is there a list for what counts as a percent or something
I mean…I have a map.
next jungle
lmao
lofty flare
With all of it.
pliant sail
Sure fire away lol
stuck raptor
Is there a list for what counts as a percent or something
yes
the rules of the category
and the wiki
lofty flare
next jungle
i didnt know i thought any% got dive
stuck raptor
lofty flare
i didnt know i thought any% got dive
Never have.
stuck raptor
that's not true
next jungle
how did i not know
stuck raptor
any% used to get dive in the first year of the speedrun
next jungle
oh that must be what i remember then
stuck raptor
it didn't last too long though before faster routes were discovered
and dive was cut
next jungle
huh
lofty flare
Why do I not know that about the category that I run? You tell me.
next jungle
lmao cuz im not exactly planning to be good at this
just want a time on speedrun.com
for fun
sturdy glade
Run a better category if you want a time
next jungle
altho i know its gonna spiral out of control
lofty flare
You don’t gotta be, you might think that lantern would be a bit slower bc of bosses, but there are only 6 bosses and the 4 that actually matter can be easily practiced.
knotty vigil
~~Run a better category if you want a time~~
the hard truth
next jungle
yeah i just find any% fun
lofty flare
~~Run a better category if you want a time~~
I have never seen a statement be more factual and yet insulting at the same time.
I might check out the TE route, it’s my favorite ending and il wp
knotty vigil
yeah i just find any% fun
😦
knotty vigil
any% would be my last full-game choice
sturdy glade
Fr
knotty vigil
All Skills is where it's at
lofty flare
Pop speedruns are insane but I rly need some practice in that so I might also at least practice that a tad bit
next jungle
eh i just love this game so much idc
lofty flare
And than get so pissed off i leave.
lofty flare
All Skills is where it's at
In the most boring and drawn out category in 2023.
knotty vigil
no
lofty flare
any% would be my last full-game choice
Low% and Low% TE have entered the channel
knotty vigil
*Low% and Low% TE have entered the channel*
LMAO
sturdy glade
Low TE isn't a fucking Speedrun nix
lofty flare
Low is
next jungle
oh god i would rather eat a handsaw than run low TE
lofty flare
And doing things dashless, shaman less, being forced to spend more than 2 minutes in deepnest, and then still losing a run to THK sounds awful.
sturdy glade
Deepnest is fine bro lmao
lofty flare
Yeah, ik, but I hate it none the less
next jungle
arachnophobia must make it hell
lofty flare
It is without it.
sturdy glade
No it isn't
next jungle
fair
lofty flare
Atleast it’s not worse than dirtmouth.
next jungle
i mean objectively it's very well done
WHAT
like in a speedrun or otherwise
speedrun i can understand
lofty flare
We have bragging bastard, xenophobic dude, guy who gives you heavy blow, a creepy, enslaved/enslaving (and still cool) vampire dude, simp, the 6 foot 6 girl, and a useless cartographer, also we have a dead/nearly dead women.
next jungle
but funy name
sturdy glade
Who's the xenophobic one
pliant sail
What do you mean, heavy blow is the best charm
next jungle
true
lofty flare
“That charm literally sucks in every way except for the name because damn does it blow heavily, as in it literally blows other charms out of the water in terms of literally decreasing your nail damage, yeah I know it reduces the stagger counter on bosses, who even cares you can still stunlock lost kin anyway” -BlueSR
lofty flare
Who's the xenophobic one
Elderbug
next jungle
i mean i would be scared if a whole ass circus appeared in my yard
lofty flare
He’s scared but also very xenophobic about it
next jungle
k
pliant sail
He always wants to talk to people though you'd think he would like the company
lofty flare
He always wants to talk to people though you'd think he would like the company
Here’s a little more from the depths of that channel.
sturdy glade
Bro this is #speedrunning 💀
lofty flare
Anyway moving on bc that’s offtopic that’s why dirtmouth is worse than deepnest
Anyway moving on from that you want a more consistent acid skip setup penguin?
pliant sail
Yeah running deepnest sucks mmhmm that's related frfr
next jungle
sure
sturdy glade
(also some of these arguments are reaching damn)
rapid nest
Bro this is <#283467985224466442> 💀
tbh i feel like this channel needs to be renamed "speedrunning" isnt exactly accurate
sturdy glade
Rose coming in clutch with facts
next jungle
i dont get it
rapid nest
#ask for help about the 5 hour achievement
lofty flare
sure
So if you get to the edge of that platform and hold left you’ll get onto the wall 100% of the time
lofty flare
<:feelspkman:639636442821165056> tbh i feel like this channel needs to be rename...
Frrr
next jungle
huh
lofty flare
<:quirrelpog:859025080297586708> #ask for help about the 5 hour achievement
#MentionAFirebornGuide
next jungle
i just dashed
lofty flare
i just dashed
It works but it’s more inconsistent for this skip.
next jungle
ok
lofty flare
Tbh you might save more time doing the ismas skips but those, while not hard, are annoying.
next jungle
ismas skips?
rapid nest
We call it FCA, for fog canyon acid.
wait i thought it was short for forgotten crossroads acid
lofty flare
ismas skips?
Spike skip, 2 acid skips, u have to spend barely any time in waterways.
And no boss fight.
lofty flare
It's not even inconsistent
It’s not. But it is the slightest tiniest bit more difficult to pull off.
sturdy glade
So why complain?
next jungle
i mean i just dont wanna learn allat
lofty flare
The second acid skip is easy but the wall jump after is a tad bit precise, the first is a little annoying, and the spike skip takes 5 minutes of practice.
rapid nest
The second acid skip is easy but the wall jump after is a tad bit precise, the f...
so true ismas skips are literally free
lofty flare
So why complain?
Wasn’t rly complaining, was giving him a setup that won’t take 5 minutes to pull off.
next jungle
nah 3 of the 5 minuted were figuring out the timing
lofty flare
Also there’s an early control for ismas