Renaming Polytopia channel

[tardy ocean]

Yeah I saw this but unfortunately don't know how to make it clearer

Maybe put a level 1 restriction on general so people don't see it right when they enter ? But idk it doesn't sound like an amazing idea

Otherwise I agree that we should do something

[worthy hull]

👉Polytopia👈

or something like that

the rules are easy to find because they're in a small category on the top

but polytopia channel doesn't stand out in its category

maybe rename general to Off Topic or Not Polytopia

[cyan pagoda]

I mean the point is to not have people go to general

[worthy hull]

yeah

people won't go there to talk about polytopia if it's renamed to make it more clear that it's off topic

[tardy ocean]

Renaming it off-topic sounds like a good idea to me, but wouldn't people make a fuss about it

[cyan pagoda]

But people can also talk about polytopia in general

I don’t think it’s a big problem

[potent seal]

I have seen a few new folks talk about Polytopoia or finding an opponent in #general , but it is not a huge problem

What ForeverBlue just said, lol

[worthy hull]

i don't think so, why would they?

[tardy ocean]

People usually don't like change, even small ones

[worthy hull]

hmm

some changes are for the best though

like art channel change was really good despite some people being against it thinking it wouldn't work

[worthy hull]

personally i think this change is good for both channels

the people that talk about polytopia in general will find more people to talk with

[tardy ocean]

I honestly was thinking it wouldn't work and I'm glad it does. It's good to be wrong sometimes
But artist channel change was a big deal. Here it's a small problem

[worthy hull]

and the people that want to talk about other stuff will just have a place to do it

[tardy ocean]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but sometimes new people try to ask or discuss about polytopia things and get trolled or don't get any answer so they leave

That might be me only seeing them for a lot of people being rightly redirected, but I have that feeling

[worthy hull]

i haven't witnessed that

[tardy ocean]

Right, you're way more present in general than me so I just remember some rare cases

[worthy hull]

everyone that talked about polytopia in general was just redirected to polytopia by the community in all situations i saw

even though it's chex that does that a lot, from what ive seen he doesn't do it in a rude way

[tardy ocean]

👍

Well then is it really a big deal ?

[worthy hull]

well saying everyone was quite a overstatement lol

lots of people end up not getting redirected

[pearl ice]

HELL NO

Servers with emoji channel names are cringe

(don't tell any servers who are exactly like that I'm in I said that)

[tropic sedge]

AGREED

[opal furnace]

isn't main channel general?

[worldly iris]

If only you could a polytopia icon on the actual polytopia channels

[worthy hull]

no

well kinda

general is off topic main channel

polytopia is main channel

[normal jolt]

"polytopia-chat" ? Or something similar.
(off-topic would also make more sense)

[potent seal]

I don't want to add more channels. This place has plenty already

[worthy hull]

it's not more channels

[worthy hull]

it's renaming polytopia or general

[tardy ocean]

Renaming Polytopia channel

Yeah the title was a bit confusing

[pearl ice]

Hey

How about

General is #offtopic

[potent seal]

I'd be okay calling #general offtopic, but I suspect there would be a big outcry from the old timers who don't like change

About a year ago, we changed the role color for admins from green to pink and there was a huge fuss

[long sentinel]

#1113178624238039160

changing general to be called offtopic will not prevent this

need some sort of child magnet to scoop in all of the new children

in reference to #polytopia of course 👁️

yeah level 1 cap seems legit i like it

why not put caps everywhere let's raise soldiers again

[tropic sedge]

This

[worthy hull]

lol

[pearl ice]

Actually

I take it back

If the rules of talking are so restrictive you're not allowed to talk about Polytopia in #general that's bad

Maybe just keep it the way it is

[worthy hull]

the rules say "use the correct channels"

that's all

there's a channel for polytopia so

[long sentinel]

#general message

prepare for a ping everytime i witness a new person come into the wrong channel

[opal furnace]

Huh didn't know that polytopia isn't the general channel tbh

Sometime even forgot general exist

[tropic sedge]

Damn 💀

[pearl ice]

I'll just block you

[worthy hull]

i will do it then

@pearl ice Hey boo, gotta spill the tea and let you know, you're my ultimate vibe. You make my heart go cray cray and my soul say yasss! You slay my world with your style, your smile, and your mad skills. No cap, you're the rizz of my dreams, the one who makes my heart do a tiktok dance. So, lemme keep it 100: I'm totally crushing on you, and I wanna be more than just fam. Let's be each other's ride or die and slay this love game together. What do you say, bae?

[pearl ice]

Man if only there's an aggressive mocking tongue sticking out emote

Wait

Close enough

[worthy hull]

https://tenor.com/view/dbgt-san-goku-bleh-gif-12001044

[viral hamlet]

Rename <#283436219780825088> to off-topic

1️⃣ yes

2️⃣ no

Poll by Akashiee#8866 · Jun 2, 2023, 8:16 PM

[long sentinel]

i guarentee this will still happen even if you do rename the category espark

[worthy hull]

no

untrue

[long sentinel]

if it still happens you have to change it back

[worthy hull]

ok

what do you suggest then?

[long sentinel]

scroll button broke

[long sentinel]

#general message

[worthy hull]

@pearl ice

pixel continued the conversation

[pearl ice]

I'm not annoyed yet so keep on pingin'

[tardy ocean]

Actually we just discussed about how he came here

It's not like he was asking how to play Yadakk or whatever

[long sentinel]

elitism in action

[worthy hull]

@pearl ice

[long sentinel]

#general message

[worthy hull]

a

[worthy hull]

@pearl ice

[long sentinel]

#general message

[pearl ice]

Not yet

Keep it up

[worthy hull]

ill bump it up

1 ping per polytopia message

[long sentinel]

#general message

this guy i told him to beat it twice and he still didn't listen and you propose to change channel name which people already don't read?

also this one is just funny #general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[pearl ice]

What the care do I give a hell

[long sentinel]

#general message

[pearl ice]

Nope no need to ping I saw that

[worthy hull]

@pearl ice

[long sentinel]

#general message

[icy cairn]

cehx what od

[long sentinel]

you can choose to do nothing or you can spam someone until they realize it is a problem

[potent seal]

Hi. I'm on vacation with my family for most of June. I'm taking three weeks off from work

(yes, this is my copy-pasta for anyone who pings me until July)

[long sentinel]

eight instances of this only of which that i've seen first hand in seven days. please consider adding a level one cap for new people!

to general of course

[long sentinel]

lol

[worthy hull]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-prank-fall-falling-gif-10808662

[icy cairn]

Hi

[tropic sedge]

#general message

[long sentinel]

this thread isn't even named accurately

[tropic sedge]

Real

[tardy ocean]

can y'all stop pinging Espark for nothing

[long sentinel]

i just wanna show her how many times this mistake happens because she likes statistics and being in the know about these things. she even made a channel but yes

add a level one cap

[tardy ocean]

Sure that's a nice intent but don't activate ping on the answer, if she has one ping she'll read the rest

And I'll ask other mods what they think about a level 1 cap on #general

I think it's a good idea

[long sentinel]

good good

[potent seal]

I hear that you think #general should have a level cap and I disagree

I think #general should be open for anyone to talk about anything, including Polytopia, as long as the posts follow the rules

[worthy hull]

that just seems against the general objective of there being more than one main channel

if there's already a channel for polytopia why should general be there for polytopia aswell?

it's just contradictory imo since the rules say you should use the right channel and there IS a channel for polytopia

honestly it just seems like you guys don't want one extra thing to moderate

though it's not like you're gonna moderate it anyways

[potent seal]

Again, I think you should be able to chat about any topic in #general as long as it doesn’t break rules. You can talk about art, tribes, strategies, merchandise, other games, cats, AI, etc.

For example, just because we have #art-discussion, does that mean people can’t chat about art in #general ?

If someone posts a picture of a cat in #general , should we redirect them to #887730751926321222 ?

[long sentinel]

you don't even use general nearly as much as us why should you have a more powerful say in this

people are being mislead to general and this simple 5 minute answer (like 5 minutes to level up) fixes everything

open a pond for people to swim in. i guess fish are people too. i guess algae is people too. i guess sewage is people too.

but if we poor a little chlorine in it the community will be just a little bit happier. everyone will get what they want. people freshly joining the server getting mislead to #general and getting scolded for being in the wrong channel is no way the community should be set

and yes i did just compare new people to algae and sewage

and because i know you very well espark i am not being ironic none of this is irony

none of this is a joke

[long sentinel]

@tardy ocean ^^^ put this text wall in the discussion if there even is one or if anyone cares still

[tardy ocean]

I didn't make it yet

A better option is maybe just to move the mods who cares here

[long sentinel]

or you could start a chat that people will read

do something pixel don't just sit there please

if people knew and cared about this already this wouldn't be up it would be fixed

you have to make people care

[tardy ocean]

I can't make everything in the server

[long sentinel]

why are you even a mod

[long sentinel]

you do understand you said you would do it on your own right

you absolutely can make everything in the server you are a mod and you said you would do it

a few days ago you were bragging about how many spam bots you deleted

[tardy ocean]

Sorry but being a mod on a discord server is not my priority in life so yes I'm not doing things on command

[long sentinel]

has time to argue with me for an hour

doesn't have time to post a 2 second screen shot and ask people for their thoughts

[long sentinel]

@radiant void can you ask about this is in the mod chat i think it would help filter some new people from going into the wrong chat

[radiant void]

hahaha

[worthy hull]

i decline that example because it's not something that ive ever seen happen

i don't think @long sentinel has either

art people always go to art discussion

plus, #art-discussion is there for talking about stuff posted on #artist-showcase that has always been the point

and also make people stop clogging the art channel with talk

if you search art in #general you'll barely find people talk about it, and every time its one message

the cat example is also irrelevant to the topic because it's a joke thread

it's not even a full channel

[long sentinel]

make a full cat thread

channel caetgory

[worldly iris]

well, ive talked about art in #general

that's all ill say

[potent seal]

I don’t use #general because it’s mostly nonsense. I prefer conversations

[worthy hull]

yeah that only makes your point more invalid in this situation imo

[worthy hull]

10 days ago

[worldly iris]

notice how i used past tense lol

anyway i was just saying

[worthy hull]

yeah

[worldly iris]

that it sometimes does happen 👍

[worthy hull]

it's still not quite relevant because it's a different situation

#art-discussion is a channel to discuss #artist-showcase

[worldly iris]

ye

[worthy hull]

they were the same channel before

[worldly iris]

ive heard

[worthy hull]

but that was obviously bad

[worldly iris]

idk the context, i was just saying

[worthy hull]

yh

well

awooga

[long sentinel]

and this is why we keep you

but please put a little attention toward my idea in mod channel i think it's a great idea

[worthy hull]

yeah we kinda try to keep some people that arent very fun out

[potent seal]

Which mod channel?

I am paying attention to your idea here to stop people from talking about Polytopia in #general . I just disagree with you and don't think it is a good idea

I disagree with a lot of ideas for this server. For example, I think the idea of an AI art contest is bad. I said as much in #1118918080677040258

Oh
Chex blocked me

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

[long sentinel]

winning

[worthy hull]

he's kinda stubborn lol

[potent seal]

It’s just confusing. Why ping me asking something if you can’t see my response?

Maybe he’s just trolling me, lol

[chilly marsh]

Trolling does not sound like something chex would do

[potent seal]

True

[long sentinel]

the worst communicator in the world

i am not trolling please listen to me

blah blah blah blah blah

yep he's trolling lol blah blah blah

[long sentinel]

https://youtu.be/pXP5gWzeVqY

[long sentinel]

#general message

[radiant void]

look at him go

just having a good time

[pearl ice]

True because every shenanigans he does is for real

[long sentinel]

five layer irony burrito made by the fucking devil himself

i'm lost even

[old wigeon]

Mods when Chex isn’t joking: oh he’s definitely just being a troll
Mods when Chex is joking: let’s take this seriously guys

[worldly iris]

Check is misutood

[old wigeon]

By mods yes

[worldly iris]

I can't believe you accepted that spelling

[old wigeon]

Humans can interpret words based on the first and last letter being correct

I read that on a sub shop wall

[pearl ice]

Did I say it is bad?

Don't make this a contest of the 2 weirdest dude on the server

[potent seal]

It was mostly a rhetorical argument

I just disagree with the idea of restricting topics people can chat about or who can post in #general

As long as the post doesn’t break rules, anyone can post anything there

[long sentinel]

michael jackson ignores oprah ORIGINAL

[long sentinel]

espark moment

https://tenor.com/view/know-gif-26202169

[potent seal]

[long sentinel]

#general message

[onyx aspen]

Old timer here
The Polytopia channel used to be called general and general used to be called off-topic. No one liked it. Off-topic was usually deader than it should've been due to many treating the channel as an afterthought. Meanwhile the Polytopia channel was getting flooded with off topic messages that made talking about the game difficult (as we have a fairly large community that doesn't play as commonly as they usually do). That either pushed people away from talking in general, or it pushes people to channels like #strategic-advice or #multiplayer-discussion, to which they then complained about channels getting too much attention

We could trial changing the names back, but I don't see things becoming better for it

[long sentinel]

the argument is to add a level 1 cap on general because new people frequently mistake general for polytopia and then no one responds to them because no one in general is interested

if we add a level 1 cap they'll talk in the correct place

[onyx aspen]

That's not particularly clean either. If could help with people joining to talk to people about the game but it'll also mean if they wanted to mention anything off topic, there's literally no viable channels for it

Whereas allowing people to just see general isn't clean, but at least viable. Worst case they just get redirected to a different channel

The better thing to do is adjust the default channels people get sent to when joining

[long sentinel]

but it could be automated to the closet channel we have

closest

earlier today for example the chat was talking about sperm and right now they're taking about pilk and mexx these people have no interest in the game and we are in charge of pushing people to the correct channel?

idk man people really like the name general

anything is better than this

[old wigeon]

Mcompany is always right

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[onyx aspen]

Waste of time to point out for many reasons

1. They had already been on the server for a few minutes and seemed to already been on the Polytopia channel before going to general. Even if your suggestion (limit general to level 1) was done, it wouldn't have changed this
2. If you simply linked the wiki, there's a chance they would've left at least for a few minutes. By linking the Polytopia channel, you implied the answer was "no", which means you actively gave the wrong answer to the question
3. There wasn't even a notable conversation going on, so there's no point in offloading to the Polytopia channel
4. You didn't ping, making your link to the Polytopia channel less obvious

[onyx aspen]

Sure, but sending to Polytopia is wrong. Send them to #welcome and tell them to give themselves the multiplayer role. Looking at their message history, I doubt their game got started. Which means neither general not the Polytopia channel was the right place, and changing anything would be a waste of time

[onyx aspen]

Also, don't send this to the Polytopia channel. Report it to a mod or in tell them off. Perhaps it's not an issue, but a report is probably the best course of action if you don't want this here

Moving it to another channel, however is a no go. You shouldn't encourage people to spam servers across multiple channels

[onyx aspen]

Wrong channel. Send them to #1021520425072734238

[long sentinel]

holy shut

i

alright well most people in general don't even play or aren't interested in the game so what about them

should we have people that just joined coming in general to ask questions

how did you find this thread mcompany

[onyx aspen]

Strolling through the server feedback section and this was the most recent threads

[onyx aspen]

What about them? Literally got pinged last night in general about messages about the game in general and discuss a prior strategy. There's no guarantee that Polytopia discussions aren't going to be welcome in general for a period of time. The point of moving people to the Polytopia channel is to make sure Polytopia discussion doesn't take over the channel, not to avoid Polytopia discussion altogether

[onyx aspen]

Probably no, but the whole point is it doesn't hurt. If we have to redirect users, that's fine. I sometimes redirect people out of other channels too. But if it's a simple question with a simple answer, redirecting is unnecessary, limiting #general wouldn't fix it, and renaming the channels would just create more problems

[long sentinel]

in theory if level capping worked and made every new member go to the correct channel would you support it

why should i be doing this i'm not a mod. we have a way to potentially throw people to a safe channel instead of one like general

[onyx aspen]

Maybe. I'd have concerns with the possibility of how long would it need to be before they're allowed to go into general (which is part of why it doesn't work), but I'd probably be willing to do it if it worked

[long sentinel]

i am watching the first episode of samurai jack and i can't look away

[long sentinel]

level one cap specifically to stop new people from talking in general from their first message which they usually do. not always but usually

level 0 to level 1 is 100 exp or 5 messages or 5 minutes if im not mistaken

AKU NOOOO

[onyx aspen]

Again, not convinced that would actually change enough

[long sentinel]

why don't we test it out for a week?

a week of inconveniencing less than a hundred new people

if no actual tests happen then it's just arguing

also mcompany i just wanna say i wanted to talk to you three years ago a few times and this is my first talk with you

[onyx aspen]

I would want other residents of #general to say there's a real problem before going ahead with testing changes

As is, it looks like a small enough problem with enough of an impact to not be worth changing, and a simple enough solution with redirecting to another channel

[long sentinel]

just do it for me?

it helps general and me

this does take away from new members for a few minutes but it also helps them

[old wigeon]

Mcompany does have points tbh Chex

[long sentinel]

this problem is too small isn't a good enough argument because it's gonna happen again and again and again to not just a few people every week but thousands over time

i am against renaming channels

[onyx aspen]

Server level changes for larger channels cannot be done for individual users. Point me to a large group of people in general who wants it, and then I could consider bringing it up to mods. Otherwise, the suggestion can't be put on the table

[long sentinel]

you don't care if it's a good or bad idea but you do care if more people care

nobody in this server makes suggestions or cares

[old wigeon]

this professionalism was what got mcompany the job on the hexonia server

[long sentinel]

no one is going to support this because nobody cares this is just the loss of new players

holy crap seizure warning in the end of samurai jack

[old wigeon]

what is a samurai jack

[long sentinel]

this really cool guy that i met at six flags when i was 8

[old wigeon]

i have only ever been to six flags magic mountain

[onyx aspen]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Jack

[old wigeon]

ohhh ive heard of that axtually not that i see this

i think i saw it a couple times on cartoon network as a kid

[long sentinel]

lemme rephrase everything since i think there's a communication issue.
i want chill-out-corner to be locked for everyone under level 1 in this server because most new people that join want to talk about polytopia and sometimes they go in general which is a place where few talk about it. they won't get help and they often get ignored. esparks stupid idea was renaming chill out corner which is stupid because the new people joining already don't read. also her ideas are stupid and she michael jackson posts

you say this isn't a big enough issue and it will cause more problems

you also say we should manually redirect them when my solution automatically does this

i don't wanna sound like a broken record here but i geniunely don't understand what is so wrong about this

also your four replies this morning were funny i liked that i enjoy being able to talk to you this once even if it's just about this

[chilly marsh]

Bro you sound like a broken record

[long sentinel]

if we don't test this out we really don't know for sure

[long sentinel]

after being in this community for years i have to in order to get people to hear me 💀

and then even after that it doesn't work

[chilly marsh]

II CAANT HEAR YOUUU

[long sentinel]

you gotta put all of your ideas together and ask hypothetical questions

[chilly marsh]

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea

[long sentinel]

go away spag

[chilly marsh]

😭

Sure

[long sentinel]

how about we start a new channel called #new-to-polytopia and people just get redirected there

[onyx aspen]

My points more or less come down to this:

1. Level 1 is pretty easy to get. I don't see that taking very long to get
2. People who start in the Polytopia channel also often don't get questions answered. Moving away from general isn't that much of a benefit in my eyes, though others may disagree. Redirects likely would still happen if chill out corner was locked to level 1
3. If someone doesn't double check their channel list regularly, locking chill out corner may lead to people not knowing it's there, which brings concerns of spam off-topic discussion in the Polytopia channels, which has had a larger uproar in the past

There's another solution we could try, though it also has similar problems. We could lock chill out corner to a role. From what I can tell, the ability to set your own channels does allow you remove the chill out corner from your channel list. Setting it to a role and dropping people off at #welcome could prove an additional step, but that's also not worked as well in the past with people not even realizing the multiplayer channels exists

[long sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/push-it-somewhere-else-spongebob-patrick-star-patrick-push-it-gif-19729647

push them somewhere else!!!

make not a billion fucking channels

maybe the entire server is fucked

good points though i can't argue with that you are 100% correct but i am asking for small change

[onyx aspen]

Welcome to the politics of a large server. Only so much you can do without creating other issues elsewhere

[long sentinel]

also i just want to point out what is wrong with that whale's outer belly button it just don't look right

this server is a nightmare i sweat to god

or swear if you're smart

i don't think anyone cares anymore most of these mods are just here to stroke their own ego

thank you for coming out of the void and saying something intelligent

i don't know how to redirect my passive aggressiveness so i'm just gonna post a cat

shut up spag

dammit

🐈‍⬛

[chilly marsh]

I didnt even say anything

Asshole

[potent seal]

I never said I wanted to rename it to chill out corner

I said I don't want to limit what people can talk about in #general. I don't want to gate keep that channel or limit it to certain levels.

I said it should be open for anyone to talk about anything as long as it doesn't break the rules. People can talk about Polytopia there too. I don't think it is a big problem

[radiant void]

this problem does not exist

it's not a problem

fine the way it is

[long sentinel]

#general message new guy joined and gave 1 2 and 3 example like mcompany

[onyx aspen]

I don't use a number.) formatting. I exclusively stick to not adding a parenthesis

[long sentinel]

what are the odds though

[long sentinel]

#general message

#general message

[onyx aspen]

Pretty common, actually

[old wigeon]

Sorry Chex Ima have to agree with Mcompany on this one

Tbh I don’t see the problem

[long sentinel]

no problem just rush hour

[onyx aspen]

Literally sending them away could be seen as worse than not bothering considering someone agreed to join almost immediately. Also, maybe send them to #welcome

[long sentinel]

i don't think they wanna read it kids only got a 10 second attention span and also they have to scroll up to read it

there is no correct channel to throw them too as you said earlier right

and even if they do read welcome they'll just come back and no one will care cause they're in the wrong channel

this server is set up to have NO CHANNEL for new players

make a channel for new people

[onyx aspen]

That comes with another problem: too many channels

[radiant void]

ok that is actually something I argued for before

hi get multiplayer role, then read bot guide, then sign up to bot, then wait for game to start

now there is quick game role

to #polytopia they go

[onyx aspen]

I do find it weird that multiplayer is hidden by default

[long sentinel]

i just showed you two people that are under level one less than an hour ago that didn't do this

[radiant void]

I still don't think it's a problem that someone has to go and show them to #polytopia 😁

hmmm

maybe we could make chillout category hidden by default

[onyx aspen]

I don't see this working out at all

[radiant void]

but we shouldn't 😇

[onyx aspen]

Maybe we should unhide multiplayer and put the tournament section in with the polyseum section when it comes to channel customization

[long sentinel]

a not mod is doing this

[onyx aspen]

Though Idk the default number of seen channels for a new person, so Idk if that's too much

[long sentinel]

give me mod

[radiant void]

yeah not just mods

you know like 💃 basic decency

or else they get ignored 🫢 try figure out what they did wrong

I have nothing constructive to say

I just do this all day every day

you only see it happen in #general 🤷‍♀️ well good for you

[long sentinel]

fix it

[radiant void]

it's not broken

[long sentinel]

the entire system is broken fix it

[radiant void]

when did calling people 10 year olds help

[long sentinel]

server

[radiant void]

I agree 😄

[long sentinel]

when did i do that when i was mocking joe

[radiant void]

1000 channels

and none of the public ones are too inactive 😭

[long sentinel]

half the time i talk in polycraft im mocking joe for being a stpuid

[radiant void]

the other half is demonstrably more diversified

[long sentinel]

the average demographic of polycraft is 15 and the average demopgraphic of general is 17

[worthy hull]

proof?

im 5

[long sentinel]

instant mod

[old wigeon]

Is he wrong I mean habe you seen the guy who he’s calling 10

[long sentinel]

no you do not understand

i'm backing up joe but secretly we all know i'm making fun of him

weeheehee

[old wigeon]

Yes except him

[long sentinel]

#general message

[onyx aspen]

To be fair, you could literally screenshot the game to answer that. Not that big a deal to answer, even less of a deal to redirect

Ngl, I think you think this has a larger affect on new users than it actually does, especially if you're actually redirecting

[potent seal]

Also, this server is officially to talk about Polytopia. We don't want to shut down talking about the game, no matter where that discussion happens

Talking about Polytopia is the point here

[worthy hull]

it's not like anyone wants everyone to stop talking about polytopia

nobody said that

you're exaggerating it

[radiant void]

I have seen chex and others telling people who start talking about the game in general chat things like go away no one cares about the game!!!!

[worthy hull]

ok

so true

[long sentinel]

there are better channels for these people

go away indeed

i will continue being "rude" to new members until this problem suddenly goes away

[radiant void]

there is no problem

[icy cairn]

I will make some

[long sentinel]

#general message

[onyx aspen]

I don't see what this is replying to

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[radiant void]

ok

how about we rename it to #non-game-talk

[tropic sedge]

no

Rename it to #stfu-about-polytopia-here-pls

[onyx aspen]

And then the general folk complain about the name change and the subsequent loss of traffic

[full hemlock]

I've been saying this for months now ong

How am I just noticing it

[full hemlock]

You know actually half the #general community can gtfo tbh 🤔

[long sentinel]

your idea sucks

[full hemlock]

No u

[long sentinel]

general is fine the way it is

[full hemlock]

People come into the #general so much

[long sentinel]

blah blah blah blah blah

[full hemlock]

It's not

YOURE STINKY

[long sentinel]

blah blah blah blah blah

glugl glug glug glug lgu glug glug

[chilly marsh]

shut up chex

[long sentinel]

i was just pointing out the mods' points on this what's wrong?

glgug glug glug glug glug mm mmmmm

[full hemlock]

General ain't fine 😤

Anyone who uses it knows it

Everyone else ignorant 😤😤😤

[long sentinel]

as someone with 2 thousand messages in general uhh fuck you

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

[full hemlock]

Rookie Ass Numbers.

You don't even use general nowadays

[long sentinel]

i think we should change the mod rules so you gotta have 50k messages to be a mod

[full hemlock]

Your opinion ain't valid

[full hemlock]

True

[chilly marsh]

exactly 50k

no more, no less

[long sentinel]

we wouldn't have legorooj we wouldn't have redish we wouldn't have pixel, espark and etc but mainly etc.

blah blah blah

[chilly marsh]

are you still talking

[full hemlock]

Liz is the only important one tbh

[radiant void]

espark has 310k messages

[radiant void]

which is why we need an upper limit of messages on who can be mod
have too many and you're retired

[worldly iris]

yeowch

[worthy hull]

@sleek citrus why u gone

[old wigeon]

A Paxu return would be based but

Not gonna happen

[worthy hull]

unless

someone is holding him at gunpoint

[sleek citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/aight-imma-head-out-aight-imma-head-out-meme-moai-aight-imma-head-out-moyai-moyai-meme-gif-23792201

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

@full hemlock and @sly gorge and @worthy hull want more strict restrictions on general to prevent level 0 noobies from entering general and not getting any help. discuss this in the mod chat please

@onyx aspen

[sly gorge]

Bing

[onyx aspen]

Still don't see this as an issue. Still looks like a vocal minority rather than a complaint from everyone in #general

[long sentinel]

how many more people do you need

if i get five more people will ya do something?

[worthy hull]

ping

[full hemlock]

Do I-?

[tardy ocean]

Now you do

[long sentinel]

😌

[long sentinel]

#general message

i'm gonna stop sending these people to the COERRECT chanel nwo

[long sentinel]

#general message

[long sentinel]

#general message

[onyx aspen]

This one isn't even a Polytopia question. It's a question of tribe for the server

[long sentinel]

well im not doing it anymore and it's the best i can do

[onyx aspen]

At that point, it seems more like you just want general to be renamed more than anything else if you'll complain about even that

[long sentinel]

never said this

that was esparks shitty idea

[onyx aspen]

My favorite thing about this one is they actually did went to #polytopia first

They literally even sent messages saying they thought the channel was dead

[long sentinel]

because the game's channel is dead my idea is terrible

it's dead so they should move their conversation there

[onyx aspen]

It wasn't dead for the record, but the way discussion moved means they just didn't bother to ask in Polytopia

[long sentinel]

investigate all other interactions

[onyx aspen]

Tbh if I reply to any of your interactions, I actually do investigate it further if it looks worth it

[long sentinel]

should we have a channel dedicated for new people

not just welcome

er new members

and actual chatroom that new members go to while general is locked at level 1

[onyx aspen]

I'm straight up telling you, of all the options, locking general to level 1 seems like the worst one from a server perspective

Finding a better way to on board people, or even getting rid of/fixing #new-members is significantly better

And if I was to try to actually fix things, renaming general probably seems like the best way to get people from asking Polytopia related questions there

Especially considering the people who go to #polytopia only to go to general later

Again, for me to take this complaint more seriously, I do feel like this needs to be more of a complaint of people generally using the server and not a seemingly vocal minority complaining about maybe possibly a new person experience

Especially when there tends to be basically no consequence of the situation besides you sending a message to show it's happened again

But like, from a server perspective, I do think there should be an off topic channel immediately visible to a new user

Locking talking in general seems weird, especially if it keeps the name general

[worldly iris]

why should an off topic be visible if there's Polytopia and General?

[onyx aspen]

General is the off topic channel

[worldly iris]

yea, that's what I thought

[onyx aspen]

My point is whether it's called "off-topic" or "general" it should be immediately visible

Not being immediately visible could at worst mean people don't realize it's there, and I'm sure #polytopia will yell louder than Chex about the fact that there's a potential issue

[worldly iris]

oh yeah, cuz you need a role to see general right

[onyx aspen]

Currently no. Chex's suggestion was requiring a role to see general

Or at least to talk in general

Which would be a no go for me

[worldly iris]

I thought you did for some reason, bur yes

Would be better if it were just visible

Wouldn't the opposite problem possibly happen if general was locked?

So many people ask questions about events in general without knowing about levels existing

If a level existed, I think they would be totally clueless

[onyx aspen]

I believe Chex wants those to be asked in #polytopia

Which, I mean, fair enough

I'm ok with pushing questions like that away from general

But locking general entirely doesn't cut it

[worldly iris]

don't see why
I mean, maybe if it's an in-game event

But if it's an art one or something, why push it away from general

Any other channel isn't anymore appropriate, like how I find weird that event discussion usually ends up happening in the monthly tribe channels

[onyx aspen]

Mostly because general is technically an all around chat, but practically is an off topic chat. There's no clean solution here, so if #polytopia is clogged with more server related stuff, imo fair enough

As long as it doesn't get off topic, which is what people really start complaining about

[old wigeon]

I agree with Mcompany

Tbh who cares if someone talks about Polytopia in general

It’s what the server is after all

[long sentinel]

#general message

[full hemlock]

.

[worthy hull]

shut up

[full hemlock]

no u

[worthy hull]

no

[full hemlock]

no

[worthy hull]

i created this and it must end

[full hemlock]

never

it NEVER ENDS

people keep asking

forever

[worthy hull]

It will end

[full hemlock]

nuh uh

[worthy hull]

It will end wether you want it or not

[worldly iris]

technically you can end it yourself 🗿

[worthy hull]

cant

doesn't work like that

i mean

i can

but they will make another one

they won't succeed with this but they will never give up

[worldly iris]

But it isn't the same 🥺

[worthy hull]

sigh

well