Aghabab

[halcyon helm]

A calm luh cover with my trash skills 😭. I been self taught for 1 year, you gotta allow it 🙏🏽

[halcyon helm]

@cinder osprey

[cinder osprey]

Aaalright, positive points first, you stick to the rhythm quite good, and I like your vibrato too ! 🙌
However, negative point, and not the least important, it’s off key, a lot ! (Somehow you manage to have the right key at 1:22 though… 🥲)
You probably need to sing with a voice guide I think, it will be way easier for you to memorize the patterns and adapt to it, and when it’s done enough times, you can try without vocals
On YouTube there are plenty of versions with vocal guides, but an even better trick would be to learn with a vocal remover (like this one, which is free to use, so that you can easily dose with music and voice volumes

[halcyon helm]

💔

So basically singing p good but entirely wrong key? 😭

[cinder osprey]

Aouch, I’m afraid, yes… 🥲
I’m curious about the way you self-teach though, because you said you did it for 1 year, how do you do it usually ?

[halcyon helm]

I usually just hard focus on whatever is the biggest issue every month

At first I knew nothing of singing

But watching videos, listening to myself, talking to ppl

I learned more

Someone said I was mostly pitchy because I didn’t have breath support

So I just recently developed it last week

But it didn’t help much with staying in key it seems

[cinder osprey]

Combining both can be tough

Sometimes, we can focus only on one or another

[halcyon helm]

This is me singing w a vocal lead

Not sure u can hear me much

[halcyon helm]

💔 😭

It’s a song I like to practice to make sure I’m connecting w emotion

Extremely, extremely, hard song tho

[cinder osprey]

So what I can suggest you is to mainly focus on the pitch, learning for example each part of a song (replaying a verse, then a chorus etc), and then bringing the rest after (breathing, loudness, etc)

[halcyon helm]

Yikes

Wouldn’t it be more cost-effective to just hard focus relative pitch?

Drilling every song I sings’ pitch into my head sounds…

grueling

[cinder osprey]

Here, first half is definitely better than what you did before, because you try to stick to the pitch
On the second half, I can tell you’re more focused on the emotions (falsetto, vibrato, singing louder etc), so pitch focus falls…but I see progress already !

[cinder osprey]

Actually, learning how the singer places the notes (and basically the song key’s scale, even if you don’t recognize the notes), can set a good base if you want to add your own touch after (impro, harmonies, vibes, runs, etc), it kinda sets up the tone

[cinder osprey]

Honestly, only with listening a song a couple of times in a row, your brain and your ears can immediately print patterns, so the more you dig into the songs you want to learn (with every detail, etc), the easier it will be for you to reproduce them first, and to add your touch on them secondly

I’ve heard about apps like SimpleSing that can be useful for you I think, I never tried it myself, but maybe it can suit you !

[halcyon helm]

They mostly use paywalls 💔

[cinder osprey]

Aouch, yes, good point 😂

[halcyon helm]

Atleast my technique is fine now right?

Openers

Diction

Breath

I should be good to js hard focus pitch for a month or two

Or in this case not even rlly pitch

But keys and notes in keys

My pitch is fine

I can match to one note easily

I just can’t change and alternate between a chord

It seems

[cinder osprey]

For the breathing/diction parts, yep, you’re alright, at least I wouldn’t touch it yet

• the songs you’re choosing are pretty slow, so that makes things easier for you in terms of memorizing/copying
  Just to be sure though, what do you call "openers" ? I couldn’t check for a French translation 😂

[cinder osprey]

Yeah…like I said before, if I listen to what you sent, I’d say that you can struggle sometimes, but because you’re focused on something else, so your voice can go too high or too low on the pitch, you first have to canalize it in my opinion
I don’t really think that learning keys or notes (even know how to read them etc) can help for that though, at least not yet, + it takes a lot of time
For me, it can be useful if you want to learn a specific key or scale, but it can often change, for example if your song has modulations, or unusual chords etc

[halcyon helm]

Yo Tree!

U online rn?

[cinder osprey]

Was sleeping, sorry ! 😂

[halcyon helm]

Wanted to see if this was any better lol

[cinder osprey]

Okay so, this puts me in a weird position to be honest 😂
Positive point, you still have the rhythm 👌
Negative point, it's still off, but somehow not only you are (most of the time) on (or close to) the right scale, but you involuntarily create a harmony, especially in the choruses
So yeah, I don't really know how to judge it compared to the last sample, but I'm curious to hear some others if you have !

[muted mortar]

i agree

ngl it takes even more skill to be able to sing in the wrong scale so consistently

[cinder osprey]

If it’s on purpose, yeah, of course x)

[olive beacon]

good things don't last 🎶

[halcyon helm]

This is js a test

Should be able to find the core issue

Somehow

@cinder osprey @muted mortar

Skip to like 16-19 seconds doe

[halcyon helm]

Acc ima re record

I was being too quiet here

[muted mortar]

oohh ping me again when u record it

[cinder osprey]

Me as well 👌

[halcyon helm]

@vital ridge

[vital ridge]

oooh

[halcyon helm]

Aghabab

@urban sphinx

Oh u know Catchi?

U da homie now xD

[urban sphinx]

Yesssirrr I tend to vocal coach peeps and just hang around

So that’s why I know catchi

[halcyon helm]

Wish I had a coach :/

My favorite vocal coach even responded to me

Gave me short advice in an email

Referred me back to her booking tho

[urban sphinx]

W

[halcyon helm]

I’ve completely self taught pretty much the whole time tho

11 long months 😭

This is my song tho ^

Stari helped the lyrics

She was lowkey cooking

[urban sphinx]

I dig it, I can see the vision, the only problem is basically recording structure like no harmonies and doubles or adlibs

Another issue is no mixing

But those are small problems

Vocal wise it’s just slight pitch inaccuracy

[halcyon helm]

Ah I can always produce it later

[urban sphinx]

But your tone is good

[urban sphinx]

Yessirrr

Again these are just small

But again overall besides being nick picky

I dig it

[halcyon helm]

Pitch is SUPER off or a little off?

[urban sphinx]

Little

Don’t worry

[halcyon helm]

Good good

[urban sphinx]

Besides that man nice job

[halcyon helm]

I js did a basic recording on my phone lol

There’s nothing else on it

[halcyon helm]

Ty man

[urban sphinx]

I’ll def say this is a demo

Def can polish it

And it’ll get better

[halcyon helm]

Yo @cinder osprey

U alive rn?

[halcyon helm]

@cinder osprey 😭 🙏🏽

[muted mortar]

r u struggling to hit the higher notes? or is this ur singing style

[halcyon helm]

Style, plus I was tryna be quiet

[halcyon helm]

What u think abt this

[muted mortar]

it's actually good, although i think some parts can be improved cos it was slightly off tune or not following the rhythm

[halcyon helm]

Ts should be better