#šŸŽ„ The Fantastic Four: First Steps

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grave fox
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Ha.. love this

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sand pelican
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Is this the real Iman Vellani

grand notch
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Yes

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||Does anyone else think older Franklin Richards in the mid credits scene looks like Charlie Bucket? ||

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grave fox
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Yes

tight crow
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Her review is so based lol

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I hope sheā€™s in doomsday or secret war

potent quarry
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Surfer is mind controlled but still has a heart

grave fox
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Same

potent quarry
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I was pissed I watch both Rebel Moons, hoping praying waiting for something interesting to happen

potent quarry
grand notch
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I canā€™t be the only one who sees it

tight crow
# potent quarry Surfer is mind controlled but still has a heart

True but itā€™s so sudden, the threads are all there for it to make sense. So itā€™s not like it doesnā€™t make sense for her to sacrifice. Itā€™s just hard to feel anything for her when we get a ~1 min clip of her backstory and then 15 min later she does the sacrifice.

Itā€™d hit harder if they make audience spend more time with her character interacting with more characters to make her feel like a person with feelings.

We see her chase the f4, and then interact with Jonny, and the interaction with Johnny wasnā€™t super emotional because we didnā€™t really get to ā€œknowā€ her yet, and her facial emotions donā€™t come across super well during those scenes.

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thorn ginkgo
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So yeah
Loved it just as much the second time

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The Surfer stuff worked really well imo

mint inlet
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And where is this stuff besides like a speech she gives?

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Nothing from this movie focuses on gender stuff

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Or gender equality in the 60s

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So much had to be cut from this movie bruh

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#ReleaseTheShakmanCut

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lofty trellis
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yeah there was ALOT deleted from the beginning of the film, there was the whole tour of the baxter building thats in the trailers

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and honestly anything that emphasized her as the leader being deleted was a good thing because it's way off the comic books, I like her having a more strong role like at the Future Foundation but that would have been abit much

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tight crow
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They did tone down Johnny being immature, Iā€™m not super knowledgeable with comics, anyone know if Sue was ā€œdoormatā€ in comics? In the movie she has agency and is treated equally idk how that is exploring gender politics in a way that is diff then BW, BP2, T*

lofty trellis
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she was never a doormat, just was portrayed as a typical female of the eras in the comics

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I liked her having more responsability as someone who is a big fan of them

tight crow
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ā€œIf you played an exact ā€™60s Sue today, everyone would think she was a bit of a doormat,ā€ Kirby

lofty trellis
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she did an amazing job, that's her opinion, I think the 60s comics way of any kind of female portrayal would never work today

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the ONLY gripe I had with the film was Mole Man, he needed to look different and wear his goggles more

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very minor lol

tight crow
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Yoooo this theory is crazy

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šŸ¤žšŸ¾ that is why we get the ship in 616

lilac jolt
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Doom was ready to make peace with F4 until Johnny banged his bridetomlol . Doom later cursed Johnny to remain in his Human Torch form permanentlyšŸ’€. The MCU version of Johnny was more mature than his comic counterpart.

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This is from current arc One World Under Doom.

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potent quarry
# tight crow True but itā€™s so sudden, the threads are all there for it to make sense. So itā€™s...

I get you. I'm not sure how versed you are in the comic canon but Heralds are always conflicted and some if not all have been or are openly rebelling against Galactus. At their core they are still people/aliens that had homes, friends, or family that they sacrificed their humanity/Alienanity to make sure they survived. Then go on to commit unprecedented levels of genocide in the name of protecting their homes from Galan.

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grave fox
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So same as Superman

thorn ginkgo
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Lower than fuckin deadpool 3? Boo

lilac jolt
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D&W got an A? Wut

thorn ginkgo
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A- is still good tho

lilac jolt
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Relax

grave fox
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Probably but just saying Audiences like it similar to Superman and other marvel movies

lilac jolt
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I canā€™t believe D&W got an A

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Even the Batman was graded A-

grave fox
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I also think it is super hard to get an A cinemascore for a superhero movie.. D and W got an A because it was a lot of fun and you also had Hugh Jackman in it

lilac jolt
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The movie was mediocre.

grave fox
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I enjoyed it a lot, watched it 3 times in theatres and for a lot of Audiences it is the enjoyment factor that counts the most.. hence A cinemascore

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BTW.. GoTG vol 3 also received A

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sand pelican
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Galactus is well done

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No more Cloudactus

oak turret
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Cinemascore is based on general audience so Iā€™m not surprised they prefer deadpool and wolverine over f4 even though f4 is a better movie

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oak turret
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F4 is more dialogue heavy and didnā€™t have as much as action, the spectacle was more star trek inspired than typical superhero affair

sand pelican
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Joker 2 got a D

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The lowest one

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Is it that bad

oak turret
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Yeah iā€™m not surprised

hardy helm
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i think thats why i liked it. it was alot of science talk and i love me some smart talking

grave fox
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Look at this

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lilac jolt
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This movie had some amazing cinematography

grave fox
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Yes

grave fox
lilac jolt
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I will rewatch the movie once itā€™s available digitally.

grave fox
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I think I will watch this movie again in theatres..

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hardy helm
# grave fox Dialogue was great in this movie

dude that one scene when mr fantastic explain why he thinks the way he think and invisable women is like " i know the way you think and the way you think scares me " OOOOOO BOY THAT SHIT HIT ME HARD

grave fox
lilac jolt
oak turret
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Definitely one of the best looking mcu movies

grave fox
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Some people just want non stop action and any Dialogue is boring, esp the new generation who are addicted to tiktok and stuff.. they don't have a lot of attention span

hardy helm
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im so happy mr fantastic isnt jokey. hes a very stern emotional sense

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potent quarry
thorn ginkgo
grave fox
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I think in this movie there was perfect balance between dialogues and action

thorn ginkgo
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I dont understand people who want nonstop action

hardy helm
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johnny was so johnny its crazy. but was a little less "cocky"

thorn ginkgo
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Even John Wick has cooldowns

grave fox
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There are such people .. they can't watch any drama heavy movie which doesn't have action in it

potent quarry
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So great

thorn ginkgo
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Johnny wasnt dumb in this iteration

grave fox
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Finally yes

potent quarry
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It was a great reprieve

hardy helm
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johnny being also smart was cool. like even he can figure stuff out

potent quarry
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He wasn't dumb but he took risks and they were calculated

grave fox
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Johny recognising that the transmissions were from home planet of shalla bal was great and he translated it too

potent quarry
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He spoke an alien language near fluent

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And had a conversation, that's next level

grave fox
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And Ben was surprised

lilac jolt
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Ben said you canā€™t even speak proper EnglishšŸ’€

hardy helm
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i also liked that he wanted to try to understand silver surfer even if she was a hot space women. once he understood her past and pain he wanted to help her

grave fox
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This is from the prequel comic.. Johny is the flight engineer

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lilac jolt
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I think Reed will be Peterā€™s new mentor in MCU

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F4 members are like family to him

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grave fox
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don't know if he is a rocket scientist but he is smart like flight engineers ain't dumb

woeful kettle
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Good movie, Superman is better. Will make more money than Supes tho I think.

woeful kettle
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Darker sides of Reed Richards pops up slightly too, and I like that a lot too

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Earth 828, Jack Kerby getting his dues is so nice

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Also, donā€™t ever mess with a mother

lilac jolt
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Itā€™s much better than Superman

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It will also gross more

woeful kettle
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No itā€™s not, Supermanā€™s better, but yes, FF will make more

lilac jolt
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At the end of the day, Superman is taking that L

woeful kettle
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Like, WAY more

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200-300mil more

lilac jolt
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Itā€™s a CW show

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Thatā€™s what it was

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lilac jolt
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Superman was carried by Corenswet, Brosnahan and Houltā€™s performances. Even in that category, F4 beats this film.

woeful kettle
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There are plenty of room for both to do well.

lilac jolt
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Like F4 is much better in all filmmaking aspects.

woeful kettle
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Liking one and saying one is better doesnā€™t mean you have to say that the other is bad.

potent quarry
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Let's go

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Got another fool to prove wrong

lilac jolt
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Gunn fanboys are review bombing this movie

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Thatā€™s how salty they are

potent quarry
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Supermid does not compare to F4

lilac jolt
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Superman: The Animated Series was more mature than Superman(2025) and that was a cartoon.

potent quarry
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"Eyes up here buddy" is the only noteworthy line in the whole movie that locked me in for Superman.

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I had multiple oh snaps for F4

lilac jolt
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ā€œSuperman is much better, guys.ā€

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potent quarry
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Rewatch ability between both I'd rather watch the 2 badass women than Lois get outdone by Jimmy

lilac jolt
potent quarry
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And I really liked Supes

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It's a good movie

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I like F4 much more

woeful kettle
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At the end of the day, as a NEW UNIVERSE, I want to find out more about Superman's.... as a long time FF fan, I know what they are doing in THIS film, but in order to find out more, I have to wait till Doomsday, basically.

If Doomsday treats it well, then FF will become as good as it can be. If it fucked up, then FF becomes worse... it won't fare as as badly as the other inter-related MCU films if Doomsday fails, but it'll suffer.

Superman too, but as a the beginning, it has less to lose if Gunn fucked up DC.

lilac jolt
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I donā€™t remember CW being so goofy

potent quarry
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Both stakes for F4 and Supes was franchise expanding

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
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ā€œIt had to lose if Gunn fucked up DCā€
Lmfao WB will stop making DC movies aside Batman. Thatā€™s what will happen.

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Marvel isnā€™t fucking up. We know their track record.

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potent quarry
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Honestly, let's all be honest. If marvel came out tomorrow and said F4 is a total reboot, how would you feel ?

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Like everything before,gone.

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This is it

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I would be insanely hopeful for every movie after that

lilac jolt
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I predicted DCEU will fall, and now Gunnā€™s DCU.

potent quarry
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This was a COMIC BOOK MOVIE

lilac jolt
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DCU will end up being a bigger disaster than DCEU probably.

woeful kettle
# lilac jolt Marvel isnā€™t fucking up. We know their track record.

They were bleeding money since Chapek took over... the box office isn't bad, but the confidence had been low.
Mind you, the HIGHS of both Endgame and the strings of good Spiderman films sort of lessened the fall...

... DC's track records, to anyone OTHER than Snyderbros, isn't the best... they wrote themselves into a corner just like Marvel, but didn't have the 10 years of MOSTLY excellent films to back it up, like Marvel.

lilac jolt
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Gunn was criticising the methods of Marvel, now he will fail.

woeful kettle
potent quarry
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Jesus Christ, killed in the name of Caeser

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Calm down

lilac jolt
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Iā€™m glad Disney booted this guy. They should have him cancelled permanently.

woeful kettle
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Yes, calm down

potent quarry
woeful kettle
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My son liked FF more then Superman, my wife and I liked Superman more.

woeful kettle
potent quarry
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Politically Superman is in the climate,20 years from now, F4 will be a keystone in the building of marvel

lilac jolt
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potent quarry
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"I just want more' is the most common thing I've heard about F4

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Which I agree, but I also know what's coming

oak turret
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Yeah f4 definitely had a lot cut

potent quarry
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If they are anywhere near the comics

oak turret
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Its s 7.5 imo couldā€™ve been a 8 with a little more

lilac jolt
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Maybe they will release the full cut one day

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Personally donā€™t mind the theatrical version.

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oak turret
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Doubt it MoM had a lot cut marvel doesnā€™t do that, even dc only did it because of petitions for snyder cut

potent quarry
potent quarry
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He's probably too permanent

woeful kettle
potent quarry
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Snyder couldn't write a Superman movie better than this one either

woeful kettle
# potent quarry It's perfect movie in everything that is F4

Agreed, but my knowledge of the FF makes it slightly not as good as it can be... not that it's not a good movie... I think it's the best LARGE SCALE Marvel film in 4-5 years...
Getting the family dynamic actually down, and how CRAZY Su Storm actually is, in the comics... like, she's the actual glue of FF, with her tenacity...

Submariner when? beehwaaha

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woeful kettle
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I'm trying not to name drop, but you know who I'm talking about.

tight crow
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Comparing the box office for this and Superman is kind of pointless? One is a base for a new universe, the other is a drop from a seasoned superhero machine.

For the past few years theyā€™ve had at least one really high box office film.

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potent quarry
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I want to say, did I want Reed to be even smarter yeah but we know with the comics Reeds genius grows within the universe as it is presented to him. With Galans ship in orbit and learning about the power cosmic, he could become uber reed.

Also yes with Sue, I love her and Reeds love for each other in this, and a deeper layer of sadness weve only seen glimpse of that will lead her to the namor story but Im not sure how or if they should even do that

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I'm reply to cybutt

tight crow
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Superman movie box office in past post 2000 have been pretty mid as well.

potent quarry
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Thing and Sue need expanding, and we need to get an angry Reed in the next move

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lilac jolt
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Also, Gunnā€™s Superman has poor camera work too. Thatā€™s another issue.

lilac jolt
potent quarry
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That's just directing style

lilac jolt
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Superman will barely make 600 million. Supergirl and Clayface are guaranteed to flop.

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
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You have to be really optimistic if you think DCU will actually succeed especially with a cuck like Gunn in charge.

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potent quarry
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lilac jolt
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potent quarry
tight crow
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some of the backgrounds

potent quarry
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CGI for superhero movies, guys be reasonable

lilac jolt
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Like Iā€™ve said, the space sequence alone was better than the entire Superman movie.

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
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You arenā€™t going to convince me Superman was good. It was shoddily made and relied a lot on the acting. Take that away, itā€™s a 2.5 or 2 at best.

potent quarry
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Superman wanted dynamic and powerful shots to see more interesting fight scenes, the CGI was never going to be perfect

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
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The jokes were even worse than the ones from GOTG. Gunn has become worse as a filmmaker imo.

tight crow
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lilac jolt
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Iā€™m glad it ainā€™t doing all that well in India. After what that POS said. F4 has sold more tickets too here.

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The Govt of India should ban his movies and I hope every Indian boycott his movies.

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# lilac jolt I donā€™t remember CW being so goofy

Arrow: s1-3, s5, flash: 1-2, Superman and Lois (all seasons) were solid but others seasons of flash, arrow and other arrow-verse shows turned to goofy cheese quick. Did we forget the batwoman show they did. Also what happened to Archie (riverdale) that series went nuts.

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Superman 2025 is far from those

lilac jolt
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tight crow
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the trailer color grading made it feel like that tho.

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tight crow
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Thoughts on how the f4 ship connects to thunderbolts* end credit scene?

pastel flint
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Totallt agree

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They likely use the teleporter to transport their ship to earth 616

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I didnā€™t realize galacto needed buildings to help his balance to walk. When he was being pushed by susan, he was using them as a crutch. Does he have balance issues? I mean that large helmet could probably cause some auricular fluid build up

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grave fox
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Yup

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Personally, just happy that we got two great movies from DC and Marvel back to back..

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woeful kettle
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I don't dislike it, but I don't love it as much as I thought I would... everything was perfect, but it had no... god what does the kids say? "No Rizz"... something of a wow factor is missing for me.

silk pendant
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Why would I care about Easter egg if the movie wasnā€™t that good.

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lol

grave fox
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I didn't post this video for you only

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lilac jolt
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I truly wished Superman was directed by someone else and DCU did well. Good thing MCU is back on track and Iā€™m not even a big fan of the universe.

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lilac jolt
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There was a Gunn fanboy who hurled racial slurs at me and I had to call the mod. Fuck off with that bs.

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
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Itā€™s next level shit online too. Many Indian DC fans tend to be part of the Snyder fanbase rather than the Gunn fanbase. Whenever Gunn fanboys attack, they often make racially charged comments like ā€œYouā€™re Indianā€ and other insults. Iā€™ve never seen Snyder fanboys do that.

lilac jolt
woeful kettle
fringe veldt
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So I rewatched Superman and saw FF on the same day. I liked FF more for sure no doubt

pastel flint
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Iā€™m of part south asian origin and any racist comments like that are sickening and uncalled for. Whoever the hell is doing them. Absolutely disgusting

lilac jolt
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Just now in this very channel there was a Gunn fan who hurled racial insults at me. I never experienced that shit and if it was some other place, I wouldā€™ve trashed that mfer.

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People like you come up with this bs like ā€œYou donā€™t represent the entire populationā€ whenever racial insults are hurled.

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
woeful kettle
lilac jolt
woeful kettle
lilac jolt
woeful kettle
lilac jolt
woeful kettle
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lilac jolt
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Also, Indians are the people who face the most discrimination compared to other ethnic groups online right now. Maybe you should go online and check how much racist slurs are hurled against us.

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Like Indians get brought up out of nowhere and they say we smell bad and what not. Generalising the entire population.

woeful kettle
lilac jolt
tight crow
woeful kettle
pastel flint
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Lets please refocus the discussion about the f4 here if possible maybe

tight crow
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silk pendant
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@grave fox you made the YouTube video, i apologize, I didnā€™t mean anything rude about it. I check it out later today.

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lilac jolt
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Maybe I have to post screenshots or something whenever I see a post, otherwise you wouldnā€™t believe it.

woeful kettle
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Aaand more toxicity, blocked, have fun

lilac jolt
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Lol clown. Of course, this guy hates Indians.

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You did me a favour

lilac jolt
untold silo
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Thing puns are the new minecraft movie memes (I fucking love them)

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lilac jolt
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RDJ is preparing for his role reading West Coast Avengers.

woeful kettle
# untold silo Unsurprising coming from him lol, he's very unpleasant at times

My point is, we are all faceless people on the Internet. Choosing to throw gender, ethnicity, politics, or ANYTHING like that into a FILM discussion forum, is inherently pointless.
Nobody can be racist or sexist or whatever unless you MAKE IT about them.

And suddenly everything is about those things, not about the movies.

untold silo
lilac jolt
tight crow
untold silo
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Not everything is a personal attack

lilac jolt
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Susan and Franklin are kidnapped by Doom.

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Reed, Johnny and Ben are alerted and try to stop Doom

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They lose, of course and Doom teleports them

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I assume Doomsday starts from F4 mid credit scene.

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Thereā€™s a theory that it wasnā€™t Doom in the mid credit scene. It was just a Doom bot sent by VvD.

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Doom has a habit of sending Doombots to confront his opponents.

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But in this case, it would make sense for the real Doom to appear because this is more personal.

pastel flint
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Does sue storm have any actual combat skills like black widow or mockingbird level in case her powers get wiped

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lilac jolt
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All the F4 members have some form of training in H2H combat though in the comics. Especially Ben.

unborn laurel
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lilac jolt
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Interesting

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pastel flint
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I wonder why they cut john malkovitch though

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Seems quite an expensive cut to make

grave fox
tight crow
unborn laurel
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Just pacing

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Under 2 hour mandate

lilac jolt
grave fox
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Ya it was awesome

unborn laurel
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https://x.com/erikdavis/status/1949131852968558662

Erik Davis (@ErikDavis)

BOX OFFICE: #FantasticFour posts the 2nd best 1st day of 2025 with $57M.
- Minecraft $57.1M
- Fantastic Four $57M
- Superman $56.5M
- Lilo & Stitch $55.9M

*Itā€™s the best first day for an MCU film since #DeadpoolAndWolverine and itā€™s poised to rep the best ever opening for all 4

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lilac jolt
unborn laurel
royal crown
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ocean carbon
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Saw it today. It was an Okay movie to me. Not bad, not good. Vanessa Kirby is stunning as usual.

potent quarry
potent quarry
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acoustic geode
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fantastic movie fr

sand pelican
sand pelican
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But yes it is fantastic

neon crescent
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Iā€™m angry. I went to see this today and I only lasted 30 minutes before I left because I was in such bad pain (I think I have a kidney infection lol) šŸ˜­ Iā€™m sad I missed it but Iā€™ll hopefully go rewatch it again sometime before it leaves cinema

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Matt Shakman confirms what I said here in this interview https://youtu.be/Umsyc7SWdVE?si=ZFyp9uCC5zU9e48i

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Brandon Davis
Credits Scene, Franklin Richards, and More | Fantastic Four: First ...

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman sits down with Brandon Davis for a thorough dive into the film, the choices behind-the-camera, lore, and more. This interview contains spoilers for Fantastic Four: First Steps, as it tackles details of the credits scene, major story points with Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, and Ben ...

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untold silo
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Ok that was really good

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You could say, fantastic

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On the same level as Thunderbolts and Superman

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Not sure where exactly it'll go in relation to those two

untold silo
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WHY DID THEY CUT SO MUCH OUT

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that was my ONE problem with the movie

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So much was obviously cut out

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Why are they so afraid of making longer movies nowadays????

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I think I'll settle on 8.4/10 for now

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Or 8.5

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Idkkkkk šŸ˜­

thorn ginkgo
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I felt.like.the pacing worked tbh

frosty copper
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I just watched this film. I gotta say, it was fantastic.

untold silo
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It felt like 90% of a movie to me

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They need to stop cutting too much stuff out

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This has been a big problem with blockbusters over the past year and a half

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Not only does it make the movie feel incomplete, but it also sometimes ruins the editing

tight crow
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untold silo
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GOTG3 was almost as long as Eternals and made 800 million

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3 great movies that could've been even greater

tight crow
# untold silo Thunderbolts too

What I liked about more with thunderbolts is, we get solid character arcs for all but ghost, Bucky. We get advancements for Bucky story wise.

tight crow
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idk why marvel is doing ts

unborn laurel
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Itā€™s an under 2 hour mandate

tight crow
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imagine doomsday is less than equal 2 hr šŸ˜†

unborn laurel
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Essentially its because theyā€™re worried for the box office at the minute

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Keep it under 2 hours so they can fit in as many showtimes in a day as possible

tight crow
unborn laurel
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No

tight crow
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or even spiderman

unborn laurel
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Theyā€™re not worried about those

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This one being cut was in direct response to Thunderbolts underperforming

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Got worried for it

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But its a shame because the result is a movie that clearly has been slashed

tight crow
unborn laurel
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They screened this just over a month ago and it was 25 ish minutes longer

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So clearly a lot of very last minute cuts from the Feige

tight crow
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gave us some great character development for Helena

unborn laurel
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Helena mustā€™ve been a character that was a victim of the cuts

timber valve
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ah unfortunate

untold silo
tall umbra
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What's franklin richards thing in the source material

woeful nova
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Make Doomsday 3 hrs

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Idk I want a longer cut of this movie

tall umbra
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Cause i read his name sometimes on the internet and they touched on it in the show, he's just like this hyper op character or what

woeful nova
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Heā€™s OP

tall umbra
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is there anything else harold

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or is he just some elementary school "i beat everything"

woeful nova
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No clue, I only know fantastic four Jessica Alba

tall umbra
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the mid credit scene with doom

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that costume looked cheap af

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the mask looked plastic

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Anyway uh:

I saw it a few hours ago; it was aight, like an ok film which is an achievement for marvel films lmao

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I think it was the first movie in a long while from disney's roster that actually executed the classic tv tropes of like character motivations and fleshing out n stuff

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Plot conflicts etc.

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I thought it was too short

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I enjoyed how the director and movie showcased how sue storm and the team did feel regretful they werent sacrificing the baby, cause objectively speaking thats a dick move

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So less idk what you call it, unintentionally conceited characters

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Alot of the bad rep from gen z audiences was that the heroes just come off as the director's self insert and really like self justified

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They have to make Doomsday longer to set up Doom..

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This is the first time Iā€™m hearing that.

tall umbra
# woeful nova What?

Idk on insta and other media i browse the newer installments have been getting that vibe

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Huh

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Protagonists not being interesting or 3d

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tight crow
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the characters in this film werenā€™t that deep

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Same with Superman

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Still good tho

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No im saying this movies was deeper than the other marvel movies we;ve been gettin

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Me seeing people hate on f4 or Superman just to praise the other

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That's pathetic

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i fucked with silver surfer, that was the stand out character for me

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Really cool character design and aura

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and also his suit was practical apparently

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"sexy alien" šŸ—£ļø šŸ”„

woeful nova
# tight crow Same with Superman

Both had the task of world building and set up core fundamentals of their characters. I think the removal of the origin movie creates a more demanding task to make these films ā€œbelievableā€ in its narratives which I think succeeded. Now I hope for experimentation.

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Yes

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# tight crow They both got issues with characters not having depth

To be fair, thereā€™s really no need for really deep depth for either movies characters given the fact theyā€™re two established universes and not telling origins stories. And plus these are some of the most known characters ever and their origins were told so many times

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so we are just getting to know them

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We literally had two iterations of FF movies where their origin was shown.. we didn't need another

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i mean i dont think u need an origin story for fleshing a character out

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grave fox
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I think the 5 minute montage in the beginning did a good job of establishing FF

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like invisible woman and silv surfer had alot more depth than like reed or the thing

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even tho they all got the same background runtime

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It was a mistake to skip the origin

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And in their biggest and deepest emotional moments in both f4 and Superman, the audience still connects to the characters even without getting to know each character from their beginning

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You can make that argument for Superman but the Fantastic Four have had two origin movies nobody liked and barely anyone watched

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I compare it to Star Wars episode 4. Thereā€™s history, we have yet to find out but itā€™s also enough of a narrative for that first film to have a beginning and end.

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To me Sue Storm came off as the most flawed, which made her my fav character next to silv surfer

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Yes the big mcu fans are familiar

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unborn laurel
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People like my dad got no clue

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Also, we were told that cosmic radiation hit them and their DNA changed and got their superpowers.. like that's enough

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Too much telling and not showing in this movie

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Thatā€™s just one example of it

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With Superman you donā€™t need to tell his origin story all over again and people just donā€™t care for it anymore

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Especially if youā€™re like me whoā€™s a big fan of Superman movies, I donā€™t need to learn about how Clark learned his kryptonian heritage again

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Of course nobody reads comics but in prequel comics of this movie, it is shown how they got their powers

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It was not a mistake to skip his origins

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I agree

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I felt like they coulda done more with the set pieces, especially outside in town

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Same with f4 like we donā€™t need a whole scene to see them going to space getting their powers for the 3rd time in cinema

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Two different mandos

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FF origin is definitely not well known but we saw in footage what led to them getting their superpowers.. yes we didn't see cosmic radiation hitting them but that's ok

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Iā€™m the OG

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They went for like this super atom punk retro style, which you saw when they had indoors scenes, but the outside looked like generic 1900s america - coulda designed it more like fallout

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Itā€™s handled very well

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Yup

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But for Superman, everyone knows his origins even if youā€™re not a big fan of Superman so who needs that in the big humongous 2025

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I donā€™t even like the theme song

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First time I'm seeing two Mandos

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Both Superman and F4 did great jobs with their origins

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I wish it was more like the OG Star Trek theme song

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I wonder why the guy with Super in his name and a Superman profile picture might think these movies did an excellent job

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idk im not for the trumpet vibe theme songs anyway

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Bongos

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Catchy little music.

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Michael did this before with the Incrediblesā€¦

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Are yall both the same person šŸ˜­?

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Or favoring one over the other

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And btw @unborn laurel arenā€™t you the guy glazing f4 with a Reed Richards pfp

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No wonder why

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how uh we feeling about pedro being the mc šŸ—æ

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He did a good job

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If you read anything I said itā€™s quite the opposite of glaze

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The resemblance is uncanny

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Pedro should also play Batman and Superman in the new reboots

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Lol

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Mand0 was here first but I came in months after and in his inactivity took the Mando position

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oh yeah

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aight lmao

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And also Pedro should play Luke Skywalker

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And Madonna

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Pedro is just so talented man

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He can play ANYONE he wants

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I just cam out of the Saarlac

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i heard he wanted to do a transatlantic accent, the like talker or announcer in the black and white american videos, but the studio said fuck you do generic pedro

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# mint inlet He can play ANYONE he wants

I fw Pedro but man heā€™s in waaaay to much. So many big franchises and itā€™s like he doesnā€™t change his looks up drastically enough either. Or at least in ones Iā€™ve seen.

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I love Pedro but he is NOT Luke Skywalker šŸ˜­

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so instead of some idfk reed richards with personality or spice, we just got pedro in blue spandex

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Pedro is ok

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Not that good

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"older guy with black hair" good enough fuckkk

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Feel bad for Matt Shakman who probably made a good movie but was victim to Feige being the true director of the mcu

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Most underutilized actor is Sheryl Lee.

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who the fuck is shakman

unborn laurel
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The director

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Director

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šŸ˜­

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#ReleaseTheShakmanCut

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Unfortunately there is no such thing

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Shakman cult starting when

unborn laurel
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Dm

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Not anymore

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:(

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IF RICHARD DONNER WAS ABLE TO EDIT A 26 YEAR OLD MOVIE (at the time) THEN YOU CAN DO IT WITH 2025 TECHNOLOGY

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Kinda sucks about modern movies is the heavy VFX involved vs the old rear screens or re-edit of salvaged films.

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Seeing that next to talk about Fantastic Four makes you realise just how strong that final act is here compared to Superman

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Kinda hard to create a directorā€™s cut.

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I swear you jst tryna create a Superman vs f4 debate

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I am not the one who brought Superman up

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Mfs praising both then that one dork in the crowd gonna try to start an argument

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Like 5 years

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Yeah youā€™re right

woeful nova
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YEA

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True

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The first act in f4 was really good, second act was super fantastic, third act was good

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Itā€™s a downgrade to the rest of the movie but at least it isnt just a 3D model spinning lasers in the air and punching flying

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Someone has to

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Apocalypse War was way better

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Short too

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Basically a justice league version of reign of the supermen without the supermen

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f4>superman

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tight crow
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I even bought the 4K Blu-ray

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I still canā€™t bother finish the film nor get past 30 mins

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It was actually believable how they took down galactus

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I donā€™t really like that they fought Galactusā€¦

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Wish he was like the villain event of phase 42432456776445

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Insinuate

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his foot goes through the ground and we hear ā€œsquishā€.

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The ending wouldnā€™t be happy like it is šŸ˜”

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Wait so what does Galactus exactly eat?

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I thought it was energy.

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Not molten core.

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Thatā€™s where I donā€™t know

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ā€œFranklin Richards wantedā€

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I donā€™t think he targets random planets, Iā€™d hope they go that route in mcu. So that way they can at least tie in more of the eternals stuff with the celestials.

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Outside of Marvel Star Wars in 78ā€™ I donā€™t bother reading Marvel stories.

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Yea. I only bother with golden age comics from DC

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So you can assume why Iā€™m a big fan of this new DC movie verse.

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Two of the biggest complaints I've heard from this movie is CGI baby which personally didn't bother me but apparently it did bother a lot of people.

Also some people were bothered how Sue was able to stop and drag Galactus alone without substantial help from others, again for me Sue is the most powerful in the team and she died at the end doing this.

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And we are getting season 2

mint inlet
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Yeah

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dude got the secret sauce fr

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FF was well made, but it just felt like a paint but numbers cape film to me. i think my not liking the FF as a group coupled with the same old cape formula made it so i was bored by it

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Yes

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During the shoot I was on Team Galactus in NYC, we shot all the coverage for Galactus, the Baxter Building exterior, the rocket ship, and a ton of drone plates for the Johnny and the fantasticar

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Thatā€™s amazing

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Did you meet anyone from the cast?

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Oh and btw there was amazing shots in the movie

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Visually the best marvel movie ever

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How was the stuff for Galactus done when they were in his ship?

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This kinda confirms that Doom is from FF Earth right

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it is not confirmed but that makes more sense to me esp if that Doom at the end is RDJ

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also, in mid credit scene it said 4 years later.. so Doom was probably studying about Franklin and power cosmic

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they got the new avengers, Sam Wilson ā€œavengersā€ group, the X-men, the fantastic 4 shiii gonna get crazy

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Steve Rogers should return tbh.

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U think any Sony characters gonna show up for secret wars?

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venom, carnage, morbius, madame web, kraven

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Toby and Garfield have to

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same with topher Grace venom

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James Franco

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Secret Wars is gonna be a mess and a half isnt it

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Just constant action and fanservice

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# thorn ginkgo Secret Wars is gonna be a mess and a half isnt it

I mean itā€™s the climax of this massive multiverse saga ofc there will be action, action if used to service the story and not just being done for no reason isnā€™t bad, it all depends on how they decide to integrate the characters together and action together. It could be super emotional story.

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peter and doom

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At least

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Put the action to the side

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We arent coming to these movies for the action, we come for the characters and stories

lilac jolt
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Tobey and Andrew will definitely be in Secret Wars.

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lilac jolt
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Why isnā€™t Spidey in Doomsday though? He is Marvel personified

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thorn ginkgo
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But wouldn't that be better

tight crow
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Wandavision was so good because it struck that balance

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Same with cap winter soldier, civil war

lilac jolt
thorn ginkgo
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I loved that show until the finale

tight crow
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needed an ep or two more

thorn ginkgo
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WandaVision finale devolves into that "mandated big fight" nonsense that felt at odds with the show

lilac jolt
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Action is equally as important as the dramatic part in a superhero film. Both the Avengers film will definitely have a lot of that.

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wandavision finale wasnt perfect but it worked well enough for me

tight crow
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I mean they did need to have some kind of fight, sheā€™s the scarlet witch and Agatha is also trying to box w/her

untold silo
tight crow
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the emotional beats of the second to last ep were stunning

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The vision vs vision subvert expectations because itā€™s more of a talk off

untold silo
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WV finale is a hell of a lot better than secret invasion and echo finales

lilac jolt
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WandaVision started out good and then the conclusion was pretty mid. Decent show overall, but it was clear that Shakman could direct a major MCU movie and he proved it with F4.

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hell, even though i liked moon knight more, i think WV's finale is better than MK's

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untold silo
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i liked the first 4 episodes of echo a good bit

tight crow
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that show was okay till they make her go route of being some kind of spirit person instead of steer fighter

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untold silo
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hell, i liked the first few eps of secret invasion too

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but the finale was so fucking atrocious that it ruined the whole show not just for me, but for everyone else watching it

lilac jolt
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Itā€™s pretty unbelievable that Agatha and Ironheart had more viewership than Born Again.

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thorn ginkgo
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Nick Fury in ep 5: time to do this myself
||Ep 6: Gaia go blow a hole in the guy's chest please||

tight crow
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it had some stupid moments

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but I liked it was a little more darker and slower

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fun to see Nick fury too

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thorn ginkgo
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Secret Invasion goes at the very bottom of the mcu for me

The slower pace felt almost.like an insult given how bad the writing was?

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To me

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It thinks its so intelligent

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but I really liked the idea that the president started going after aliens at end of series, the whole paranoia could have been a nice way to start the fear of mutants and others with superpowers

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they didnt even mention the last president šŸ˜­

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or kept the theme of paranoia of superpowered individuals

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# tight crow There were def some odd choices, wat ended up being bad about writing for you? I...

Basically everything lol

Terrible narrative with no tension or anything interesting. Horrible character writing. Horrendous dialogue. The filmmaking is worse than it thinks it is. The show promised intrigue and gave negative intrigue. No suspense at all.

Didnt even write Nick well, let alone any other character. Also the character they kill off in Ep 1 felt like shock value and not actually substantial, and that characters absence definitely hurt the film

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Itā€™d been nice to get more Mariah hill fosho,

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I just finished this one

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I liked it, it was a faithful adaption

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Much better than Superman

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I will rewatch both once itā€™s available digitally.

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why are we posting superman gifs in the fantastic four chat?

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Gonna start reading older f4 comics just to get more context

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Three superhero films this year were all solid. I enjoyed all. The writing is absolutely key along with good character beats. I will say though despite it getting a very mixed reception, I still hope to see the caliber of Man of Steelā€™s action scenes in any future marvel or dc film. That filmā€™s action scenes, cinematography, and effects were absolutely god tier and still levels beyond most superhero films today. I feel MOSā€™s action scenes were definitely better and far better shot than Superman 2025

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Movie is dull and empty

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An ethical dilemma where all the characters are on the same side and nearly always agree

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Kiddy stuff

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Space Chase was good fun, wish it wasnā€™t the only developed setpiece

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The whole public turned on them for 6 minutes

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Then Sue made a generic speech about the power of family and all world conflicts ended

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Pre-school drama

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Fair enough things hit people differently but it wasn't all smooth sailing for the characters in terms of plot events.

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I thought it was far too smooth unfortunately

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Extremely safe, nuts and bolts live action cartoon

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royal crown
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Its being cartoonish is a good thing

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For sure

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Loved Superman

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Itā€™s more the extremely safe and generic part that bothered me

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# royal crown I wanted that.

Each to their own, weā€™re thirty eight movies into this thing, I want something thatā€™s gonna push boundaries and actually try new thighs

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Rather than the same thing we couldā€™ve seen 20 years ago

tall umbra
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Thats your first mistake right there

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tall umbra
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I stopped keeping count like a decade ago

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Cartoons push more boundaries than any live action movies so farā€¦ like in any genre?

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Or do you just mean kids films

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Imma be real man I miss the old days of the chats when we were like armchair movie critics lol

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Cant really criticize the movies, theres like alot of toxic positivity now is the vibe i get

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tall umbra
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Anyway, f4 was a good direction, not gonna say it was an outstanding movie, but it moved in the proper direction less campy and a little more mature

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Like a couple years back we could like vehemently dislike and criticize the movies or shows we respectively liked and disliked and just vibed with it, heard eachother out, ninjas were chill like that; now its more like idk kpop fans type shit

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Lol

tall umbra
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They specified that

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Sorry but Snow White doesnā€™t have the edge on 2001

royal crown
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I also see Miyazaki's work and realise the possibilities of creativity.

tall umbra
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The baby being the macguffin did feel contrived considering the stakes

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But the director did touch on how ridiculous the situation was a little with the family speech

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And as Ruby said, they mulled over it fast, which is whatever

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Yeah it's unrealistic, but I like it for that too.

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Oh yeah the revival thing too, like a showcase of a character dying then immedietly respawning is such a fucking over used cheap shot, but like it had more flavor than other cases

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Cause the revival also functioned to introduce the baby's power which was kept in suspense the entire time

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So its not as bad

royal crown
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I saw it more like the best opportunity to showcase the childs powers through the emotional tether with his mom.

tall umbra
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Im not excited for the kid anyway deus ex super god is nah, miss me with that

royal crown
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Depends how his character is handled

tall umbra
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And way too many peeps are tired of the like forced sad scenes, its always either some secondary character no one cares about or some important one that just respawns

tall umbra
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But that made them bland and generic, with minimal room to play around with the character

royal crown
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For you

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Sentry was similar but I think the issue was more broadly with the case with the movie as a whole

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Thousands if the bar is Matt Shakman lol

royal crown
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Impress me anything that I haven't seen a cartoon do before them.

tall umbra
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My g you're acting goofy šŸ˜­

royal crown
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Or an animated content

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"for you", "impress me"

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tall umbra
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"super heroes are bespoke art change my mind" šŸ—£ļø šŸ”„

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Right

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Any cut off point in terms of decades or centuries?

royal crown
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Why are you stalling?

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Cos itā€™s gonna be a long list

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# royal crown Cartoons push more boundaries than any live action movies so far other than mayb...

Iā€™ll just go for some highlights I suppose:

PTA, Altman, Antonioni, Argento, Bergman, Bresson, Cassavettes, Park Chan-wook, Chaplin, Coppola, Demme, Denis, Fellini, Forman, Friedkin, Godard, Hamaguchi, Hitchcock, Bong Joon-ho, Wong Kar-wai, Gene Kelly, Kiarostami, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Lang, Lean, Leone, Lynch, Lumet, May, Panahi, Pasolini, Powell & Pressburger, Rossellini, Sciamma, Scorsese, Tarkovsky, Tati, Truffaut, Varda, Welles

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I would say all of these guys push more boundaries than Fantastic Four: First Steps by Matt Shakman

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Personally

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You asked, pal

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Sorry for taking the time to answer your question?

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My main one is why was galacto so weak with his silver wife. He didnā€™t seem very strong or threatening

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On Our Own by Bobby Brown fits F4 first steps so good

grave fox
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Loved this tease and only realised later that this was a summit for global disarmament (I guess of nukes) and Latveria didn't show up

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We are finally getting a adaptation of Doom who's King of Latveria, not just a billionaire scientist

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This is cool

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Who cares its earning

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And it's good

grave fox
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Hey.. I hope F4 does well also

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I liked more than Superman

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Who's seen the movie ? Name 3 scenes that u didnt know will happen !

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Captain Marvelā€™s billion-dollar success with poor audience scores is something that erodes marvels reputation to casuals. They need to satisfy both critics and audiences while maintaining blockbuster status. Perhaps they should reduce budgets to $100-150 million and be more innovative. Iā€™m unsure, but is CGI or filming at real locations more costly?

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Iā€™m even wary of Doomsday and Secret Wars now when it comes to box office.

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Spider-Man:BND should definitely gross a lot because the character is incredibly popular.

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tight crow
# analog mural Captain Marvel has nothing to do with this lol

Wellā€¦ it kind of does? I liked the movie yes, but if I recall isnā€™t that one of the major MCU movies that marvel started getting more and more accusations of panderingā€¦etc, that type of stuff effects a movies appeal to all demographics.

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black panther 2, oppenheimer, brutalist

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Black Panther maybe could've been 10 minutes shorter

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Oppenheimer was perfect length

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they should have cut riri out entirely

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and i like her

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but it made no sense to be ther

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she needed her own

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I think after Eternals, Marvel didnā€™t want to take the risk.

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movie was flat

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They shouldnā€™t cut movies that are supposed to be long.

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GOTG3 was 2h 30m and made 800 million

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shouldnt extend movies that should be shorter

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Like it was originally going it be

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Before they cut 25 minutes out

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Its still organic

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The things like tiles on a floor

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I remember watching Fantastic Four and feeling that some things were cutout. So a love scene being cut makes sense. But I don't see how a love scene with Ben would work

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It was?

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I don't see how it'd work I'm the context of F4, in Deadpool context maybe.

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But even deadpool doesn't go that far with colossus

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Like probably on the floor?

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Unless he has a reinforced bed

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WOW

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its been 4 days

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Btw is bens partner suppose to be blind?

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Forgot her name

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Maybe that pipe dropping sound effect?

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I love how Jack Kirby shares the same last name as the actress who played Sue Storm

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this movie was pretty good

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I finally rest. And watch the sun rise on a grateful universe. (Until avengers doomsday releases)

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Watched F4 again this time with my brother who's not a comicbook movie fan and he liked F4 more than Superman, he said the story was more focused in F4 and he liked visuals more in F4 than Superman.

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BTW.. her step dad is The puppetmaster who was mentioned in the movie

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Vanessa Kirby carries this entire movie in her back bru

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The entire cast is great but she knocks it out of the park

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Galactus was very intimidating in this movie.

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Bro it already made 218 M we're good

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No itā€™s 200 mil

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Probably

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So, the Galactus ship basically transforms planets matter into something that Galactus consumes through those tubes right?? So, without the ship.. he can't feed.

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How does galacto eat a planet. Like on toast?

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He didnā€™t take a shit before meeting the f4 so he couldnā€™t eat earth 828

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mainly hes eating the cores planets, but they never say why he doesnt just eat stars

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thatā€™s good I was worried Galactus was a celestial baby unaliver

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Galactus will not be cancelled yet šŸ™ŒšŸ¾

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but yes he is known for his arch nemesis being Celestials

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cause they more or less do the exact same as him

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use a planet for their own gain

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it annoys me so much that people who only know human torch from the 2005 movie are complaining that this human torch isnt accurate

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this is by far the most comic accurate human torch we have gotten

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he loves women but he also reminds us why he's on the team

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i think a lot of people forget that these are supposed to be like the four smartest people on the planet

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they're literally astronauts

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Both are solid, the 2005 is more immature and has a charm, this one is more mature and also has charm.

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Johnny never acted that way in any movie prior to this one

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and would not send chris evans arrogant ass to space

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100% he played his role exactly how he was told , hes good as him, I just hate that version of Johnny is a knuckleheaded horndog with no nuance or smarts

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Johnny in the comics is only a high school graduate and has shown skill with mechanics.

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The MCU version definitely seems to be more intelligent and also mature.

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Ben is an engineer with two masters degree and Susan has a PhD in Archaeology.

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Screenrant is very late

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glad I saw ts in imax

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Galactus looked majestic

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https://youtu.be/5WM4f_KnofI?si=NFjYbSOw5xUyPlxA

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Andy is joined by Damon Lindelof for a full breakdown of ā€˜The Fantastic Four: First Steps.ā€™ First, they talk about the teaser that was released for Vince Gilliganā€™s new show, ā€˜Pluribus,ā€™ starring Rhea Seehorn (4:24). Then they talk about ā€˜Fantastic Fourā€™ and discuss whether, between the success of this movie and ā€˜Thunderbolts*,...

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Lindelof previously created Watchmen show and is now showrunner of Lanterns TV show..

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The only IMAX option I'm offered here is IMAX 3D

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Am I seeing things or did f4 box office go down

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Is that possible how

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That moment when Galactus changes his size, i notice his armour shifting like starks nanobot armour but in a large scale. So it looks like techtonic plates are shifting.

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The comics portrayed Galactus devouring with abstract concepts/ideas. But this time in the film they kind of gave the abstract tech a logical explanation. We gotta see how the planetary materials get processed into the antimatter energy source of Galactus.

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I legit forgot that Kang was a descendent of Reed Richards

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Oh yeah, remember Kang?

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Franklin Richards and Nathaniel Richards are not the same

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Pre-Kang
Nathaniel Richards, a 31st-century scholar and descendant of Reed Richards's time traveling father Nathaniel, becomes fascinated with history and discovers the time travel technology created by Victor von Doom, another possible ancestor of his. He then travels back in time to ancient Egypt aboard a Sphinx-shaped timeship and reinvents himself as Pharaoh Rama-Tut, with plans to claim En Sabah Nurā€”the mutant destined to become Apocalypseā€”as his heir. The pharaoh's rule is cut short when he is defeated by the time-displaced Fantastic Four. An embittered Nathaniel Richards travels forward to the 20th century where he meets Doctor Doom, whom he believes might be his ancestor. He later designs an armor based on Doom's and, calling himself the Scarlet Centurion, pits the Avengers team against alternate-reality counterparts. He plans to dispose of all of them, but the Avengers manage to force him from the timeline, where a divergent version of him becomes Victorex Prime, archenemy of the Squadron Supreme.

Nathaniel then tries to return to the 31st century, but overshoots by a thousand years, discovering that humanity has ruined the Earth through endless conflict using advanced weapons they no longer understand. He finds it simple to conquer the planet, expanding his dominion throughout the galaxy, and reinvents himself as Kang the Conqueror. But this future world is dying, and so he decides to take over an earlier, more fertile Earth.

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in short: Nathaniel Richards, who is Reed Richards' father, is not his own descendant. Instead, Kang the Conqueror, also named Nathaniel Richards, is a descendant of Reed's father from an alternate timeline. Nathaniel Richards, Reed's father, travels to an alternate Earth and has a son with Cassandra, who is the ancestor of Kang

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Vanessa Kirby saw marvel rivals and got geeked šŸ˜†

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so matt shakman confirmed that the doom we see at the end is rdj's doom, and on top of that vanessa kirby confirmed it was actually rdj in the costume

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i guess it shouldn't be that surprising, the post credits scene was filmed by the russos on the doomsday set

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so rdj was there

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if that is actually how doom looks in doomsday that would be so peak, i know people were worried they were gonna overdesign or iron man-ify his outfit

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only rdjr could hold a mask like that