Superman

[golden frost]

True

But most Snyder fans have pretty much moved on

And they see it as pointless to hate on the new Superman

[rustic yacht]

I wish that were true

[golden frost]

It is true

I’ve seen even Snyder fans also be supportive of the new Superman

[echo kraken]

It IS pointless... since well... Snyder himself has moved-on, and him and Gunn doesn't hate each others, and seemed to have at minimum a courteous professional relationship, at most ok friends.

[golden frost]

Where did this false ass narrative that they hate each other come from

[echo kraken]

It’s not false narrative, just a very loud minority

Things like this is everywhere, not that they are the majority, just, again, a very dedicated, and very loud small group of Snyderbros.

[vast lynx]

Ayup, finally saw this

What's the general consensus in here

[golden frost]

It’s even sadder they do this if they are grown adults

[echo kraken]

FEELS like a 65:20:15 Love -> like -> hate spread

There are a few people who hates it, but the majority are on the positive sides

The hate are mostly on the overly bright nature and the jokes

I MAY be biased though, since I'm on the LOVE side... the LOVE ratio might not be so high, but imma gonna ignore that I have confirmation bias ehehe

[vast lynx]

I think I'm in the middle of love and like. It handled a lot of things going on well, but had some iffy dialogue and character moments. Generally enjoyed my time and excited to see where future movies go

Very excited for Supergirl if it goes a lot more space fantasy as rumoured

[echo kraken]

I just want to see Milly Alcock getting drunk and unleash the inner Kryptonian rampage lol

[vast lynx]

Also this superman and pattinson batman would fuck so hard together in a cross over

Would love a world's finest adaptation with those two

[echo kraken]

I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon... we first need to fix Bruce Wayne from the Matt Reeves series... you can't have a Batman and a Bruce Wayne being essentially the same character lol...

[vast lynx]

and that's why you do Hush as Part 2. Hush takes on Bruce Wayne's identity and while trying to take back his identity, Bruce realises what he needs to be as both batman and Bruce wayne

But that's just a theory--

[solid smelt]

Here's something that I'm curious to hear other people's reaction towards:

A lot of film reviewers I've seen that aren't comic-book oriented have been super harsh on this film. Calling it nonsensical; I heard one reviewer say something like, "the Minecraft Movie has a better representation of its source material than Superman" and I was just blown away.

I deeply enjoy this movie, despite a lot of it's legitimate flaws (pacing felt off & wish some scenes were given more room to breathe, not all the Gunn humor worked well, etc.). So I'm just curious what you all think about that.

[solid smelt]

Gotta call up Matt Reeves now and have him redo the script 😭

[golden frost]

They’re non comic fans

That’s all you need to know

They are rating it as a movie

[solid smelt]

I guess that's the thing I'm curious about: do you guys know anyone who wasn't comic book people who did enjoy it? Because I'm seeing a lot of folks split about it.

I watched it twice, and tried to judge it as a film first, and still found it fine. Nothing innovative, or groundbreaking, but enjoyable with its sincerity -- even if it was messy.

[golden frost]

Some just hate it just to hate

And some are just tired of reboots

[solid smelt]

I get being tired of certain reboots. But I feel like for Superman, it was kind of warranted w/ how much of a shitshow the DCEU felt. I usually disdain reboots, unless it's

1. Actually well-made
2. If it's necessary at all

[echo kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/mat-pat-game-theory-five-nights-at-freddy's-movie-fnaf-gif-7977763299378802749

[echo kraken]

I don't know what's going on with some of the critics... a LOT of the comic and geekdom critics and pundits had been praising it... let me check my fav Mainstream critics Kermode and Mayo... one moment

[echo kraken]

Heh, he JUST turned it in to Gunn last week too... and Gunn said he thought that it's fantastic and basically going to approve it lol

[echo kraken]

Mark Kermode said he enjoyed it way more than he thought that he would... there are some parts he thinks goes a bit too silly and are a bit overstretchy, but he generally liked it and is good fun.
And he's DEFINITELY not a comic book critic.

[timber obsidian]

Ya know I see the Superman speech in the third act being posted everywhere but they always cut off the last part

The last part where he says that he hopes Lex realizes it's his own greatest strength too

That shit hits HARD

Even after EVERYTHING he still tries to reach Lex and help him be better

THAT'S MY GOD DAMN SUPERMAN

Signed sealed delivered

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[echo kraken]

Yeah people are idiots, that's the SOUL of the monologue

[timber obsidian]

Sometimes I drive to work and just think about this movie and get teary eyed

I've listened to the score non-stop

My wife is in Vermont and I can't wait for her to get back so we can watch it together

[sharp hearth]

The Gunn did not misfire

[echo kraken]

Both Gunn and Corenswet said in public that the day they shot that sequence was their best day on set... one working with a director, the other with an actor...
They quibbled for a lot after he did his version and Gunn asked him to do an angry version... then he walked to the back of the set and Gunn tap/light punched his chest (on the S I assume) saying "it's from HERE"... then Corenswet went "OK", and delivered the version we saw on screen.

[echo kraken]

Positivity, empathy, belief in the good of people, and desires to do good, are Superman's REAL powers.

[timber obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-happy-cry-happy-tears-the-office-gif-7425816

My Instagram feed is all hopemaxxing now and I feel alive

[echo kraken]

STAAAAMAN!!!!!

[timber obsidian]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEaKqjPPVW/?igsh=MWc4bnluZzhqdW56Mw== LIKE COME ON MAN

devlin_wk

I fucking loved this movie. I also cried listening to this track three times now

Likes

41927

Instagram

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-applaud-happy-cry-clapping-gif-18958303

[echo kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuu-SuMK2hw&pp=ygUcc3VwZXJtYW4gdGhlbWUgMjAyNSBhbmFseXNpcw%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JubWXo2A2SA&pp=ygUec3VwZXJtYW4gdGhlbWUganVzdCB0aHJlZSBub3Rl

I've been watching a lot of the analysis of the movie's theme

@timber obsidian For some strange reasons... "Maybe that's the real punk rock" line got to me in theaters

[timber obsidian]

I did just watch Superman 78 again too

Honestly when this comes out on physical I'm pairing this with Supes 78 and Iron Giant

My hope core trilogy

[craggy pawn]

That was a cute scene

[sharp hearth]

Stupid ass test audiences

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/Variety/status/1947406887143805418

Variety (@Variety)

Brandon Routh on why David Corenswet is a "fantastic" Superman:

"I really enjoyed it. I think David [Corenswet] is fantastic. I cried no less than three times...I really got into it as I’m watching him navigate those tricky Superman moments in the first conversation with Lois

X · Jul 21, 2025, 9:22 PM

https://x.com/DCUSuperNews/status/1947460933946691653?t=oOp9s3WDEZbYUgU-ju-llA&s=19

DCU Superman News (@DCUSuperNews)

Kevin Bacon praises 'Superman'

X · Jul 22, 2025, 12:57 AM

[cedar ermine]

This film was great

I left the cinema in such a hopeful state

I don't know how to explain it

I feel like I understand the criticism of the overly bright nature and comedy but to me it fit

[sharp hearth]

My biggest issue was it felt a little overstuffed

[cedar ermine]

Also nicholas hoult was a perfect Lexus Luthor

[sharp hearth]

I think it should've been a little longer

But the movie's great as is

[cedar ermine]

I loved how petty he was

[cedar ermine]

I understand that as well

There's so much going on but overall I'd say this is a great start to the dcu

[sharp hearth]

This is probably my... 4th? favorite DC movie

[cedar ermine]

Ooh nice

What are your top 3?

Ooh these actually look dope

Mr terrific was awesome in this film

https://tenor.com/view/superman-mister-terrific-mr-terrific-edi-gathegi-t-sphere-gif-2807468717226261885

[thick arch]

He did one of supergirl I’ll post it if I find it again

[cedar ermine]

Ooh I'd love to se that

Thanks for sharing

[agile fern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sdECUNNRW8Y?si=00JqSwGe-gCwSxOF easily one of the top best movie title sequences i've ever seen

[agile fern]

YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP WTF💀

[stone turret]

he shoulda kept ultra man punching krypto

[tame tangle]

yo that's recorded non trailer footage. big no, i think.

[agile fern]

the movie is out

[tame tangle]

...and?

[agile fern]

do i spoiler censor it or

[tame tangle]

well yah, but not with actual movie fotage, i think

[agile fern]

its fine apparently but spoiler censoring is recommended

since its already out officially

[tame tangle]

its in the rules, no piracy

[austere stream]

That is technically piracy so I will need to delete that

[agile fern]

oh

i didnt know that sorry

[finite oracle]

I hate my YouTube feed

[agile fern]

i didnt know mb, i found the vid funny so i thought-

but i didnt know it was sorry

[finite oracle]

It’s the same regurgitating nonsense regarding the box office of the film…

[austere stream]

The algorithm is garbage lol

Also, if you watch one video out of your normal habits, thats all you see for like days lol

[finite oracle]

Yea. I love this Superman and all I get is Critical Drinker and friend videos…

[austere stream]

Oooof

[finite oracle]

None exactly address what issues are legitimate because they assume logic means whatever they can rationalize on their own has to be dead set options for characters… I had a genuine headache listening to 7 hours of EFAP breaking down the movie and just listening as to what didn’t work. It’s more like routinely complaining for the sake of it at this point.

Anyways, glad the movie went past the Superman Returns original run. Here’s hoping it makes 500 mill.

[austere stream]

Why would you subject yourself to efap of all people 😭

But yeah

I hope it breaks 500

[tame tangle]

is 500mil good for what it cost?

[craggy pawn]

It probably won't break even with 500 million dollars but it would still be great for Superman considering the state of DC before and even Marvel btw as both Thunderbolts and Brave new world haven't made 500 million dollars as well.

This is a low bar but still, and there's a chance Superman may get close to 600 million dollars as well

[craggy pawn]

You listened to 7 hrs of that?? That's a lot, I don't listen to those people because I feel like they already have made up their minds even before watching the movie. I did watch a video from Film threat and their discussion on Superman and lore changes, it was interesting with diverse opinions and not just total bashing.

[stone turret]

superman is 100% breaking 600 million

the real question is whether it gets to 700 million

[craggy pawn]

Hope so and I mean getting to 700 million dollars would just be incredible but I have serious doubts about that

[unreal widget]

What how do u know that

[wind adder]

First let it make 600 million lol

It looks like this movie will make less than MOS, and the latter’s performance was considered a disappointment.

[craggy pawn]

Yes but Man of steel didn't have good reception like Superman has plus DC brand wasn't tarnished like right now

[wind adder]

I don’t understand why people are excusing this movie’s overseas failure. Supergirl will probably tank, if this movie is only making over 600 million.

[craggy pawn]

Even if Superman makes less than MoS it is a success because it has now rehabilitated the DC brand

[wind adder]

Superman doesn’t have good reception outside America. I don’t know what you’re on

It’s not even a good movie and some are overhyping this as if it’s some groundbreaking superhero movie.

[craggy pawn]

It's nearing 200 million dollars overseas though and there's still time alright.. vast majority of Hollywood movies will never make that much money internationally

[craggy pawn]

That's your opinion which is fine. I think it's a great movie and the majority of people who have seen it like or love it.

[wind adder]

This is some serious cope. You had Iron Man 3 making over 1 billion back in 2013 lol.

DC’s biggest hero is struggling to make probably 600 mil.

[craggy pawn]

Ah.. times have changed a lot since 2013. Even MCU movies aren't doing well anymore. Like Superman is gonna make more money worldwide than past 2 MCU movies and that's a win.

[wind adder]

Be realistic, instead of fanboying Gunn.

[wind adder]

Fantastic Four is gonna outgross this movie and it will do much better overseas. MCU is fine

[craggy pawn]

Ya because DC brand is bad right now. You forget about DCEU and think that DC was doing great before Superman came along.

[wind adder]

Worry about DCU.

[craggy pawn]

Let's wait and see for that.

[craggy pawn]

DCU has just started, we will know more next year when Supegirl comes out.

[wind adder]

And that will flop. Nobody gives a crap about Supergirl

[craggy pawn]

Speak for yourself alright. You don't know that.

[wind adder]

DCU is dead on arrival just like DCEU.

[craggy pawn]

Totally disagree on that. Superman has received great reception already and it is doing well financially compared to past DCEU movies.

[wind adder]

I hope WB doesn’t sell DC to Sony, if things get bad.

They should focus on Reevesverse and that will make them big money.

Critically acclaimed movies/tv shows and huge numbers.

[craggy pawn]

You don't know Hollywood business ok.. like you don't even know that WB has made most money in box office right now with Minecraft movie and sinners

Even if superman loses money.. overall they will be in profit due to other movies.

So there's no question about selling WB right now.

[wind adder]

I’m not talking about Minecraft and Sinners.

[craggy pawn]

Those are WB movies and DCU is under WB

They are doing fine even if Superman underperforms

Also Zaslav ain't stupid like past DCEU people where they were reactive and changed their plans completely based on box office of single movies

[wind adder]

Again, I’m talking about DC. Not their other movies. Learn to read

If DCU is a flop, then I don’t think WB is willing to take any chance with DC.

[craggy pawn]

This is a win for DC and Zaslav is more than happy right now with what Gunn has accomplished here.

[wind adder]

Like both DCEU and DCU flopping is pretty bad

[craggy pawn]

We won't know that for some time. You can't judge the whole DCU by just Superman movie because that would be stupid.

You need to wait for at least 2 to 3 years and see the results and even if it doesn't do well then, we can have different conversations.

[wind adder]

Are you for real? If DC can’t even make big numbers with their biggest IP after Batman, then yeah they should forgot about other characters. This is precisely what happened with DCEU.

They’re mismanaged

Zaslav is a moron.

[craggy pawn]

How many times I have to say this?? DC brand was tarnished with DCEU ok.. their movies weren't even making 200 million dollars worldwide. You totally forget the context.

And then people say.. but these were obscure DC characters, well in MCU even obscure characters were making a lot of money like Guardians or ant man

[wind adder]

They’re not the MCU, and will never be. MCU used to make billions with rando characters, something DC can’t accomplish consistently.

[wind adder]

And now DCU will share the same fate. Superman isn’t exactly making great numbers.

[craggy pawn]

Ya because their brand was tarnished and DCEU was a failure as they couldn't make Superman or Batman movies they were loved by many.

[craggy pawn]

It's making a lot than what many predicted. Most important is that majority of people like the movie ok.

As I said before.. the first Batman begins movie made 385 million dollars back in 2005 and that was because Batman brand was tarnished. It is a similar situation with Superman.

[wind adder]

You are coping hard, if you think a 600+ million Superman is a great start to DCU. Superman should be making over a 1 billion considering how big the IP is. WB was pretty disappointed when MOS made 670 million.

[craggy pawn]

Why are you forgetting the context??

[wind adder]

This film will probably make even less, and Gunn fans think this is some impressive start.

[craggy pawn]

It's like for you.. DCEU never happened and this Superman is a fresh start after no DC movies were made for over 10 years.

[wind adder]

wHy aRe yOu fOrGeTtInG tHe cOnTeXt?

Keep giving excuses

[craggy pawn]

Why did Batman begins make 385 million dollars in 2005?

It was a great movie back then.

[wind adder]

“DC brand was damaged due to DCEU, so we should excuse the underperformance of Superman WW”

[craggy pawn]

Not excuse.. it is putting in context that Superman movie was made in the backdrop of DC brand being tarnished and a lot of people had given up on seeing DC movies.

[wind adder]

The Batman literally made 772 million back in 2022. It’s silly to claim DC brand is completely damaged.

[craggy pawn]

Batman wasn't DCEU

[wind adder]

You know how slow paced and long that film was for a superhero movie? The Batman is a DC movie, correct?

WB wasn’t only making DCEU movies

[craggy pawn]

Yes but it was a standalone movie and people knew that.. because we had a Affleck Batman before.

[craggy pawn]

You know what did other DC movies make after Batman ??

Aquaman 2 was a sequel of Aquaman which made over a billion dollars and it only made 440 million dollars worldwide.. Superman is gonna cross that.

[wind adder]

Superman is a household name like Batman. Yet it underperforms. Aside Aquaman, smaller DC characters have been epic failures. Even then, Momoa’s popularity was like the main reason behind the first film’s success. Then people didn’t bother for the second movie. Supergirl and Clayface won’t be box office success, and that will end up destroying the DCU.

Even if Supergirl or Clayface are positively received, the box office is what truly matters

[craggy pawn]

Why didn't Aquaman 2 make more money?? Also Flash is a huge character in DC and it didn't make much also.

And you said people didn't bother.. exactly.

[wind adder]

What are you even arguing?

You’re proving my point

[craggy pawn]

My point is that DC brand was so bad that even top level DC characters like Flash and Aquaman weren't making much money.

Superman is a household name but it is also a DC character and the brand matters a lot.

[craggy pawn]

They can make money if they have lower budgets and Gunn has said their budget won't be huge

[wind adder]

Aquaman isn’t a top DC character lol.

[craggy pawn]

What ?? He's a member of Justice league. Are you even serious ??

[wind adder]

He’s literally considered a joke until Momoa played him in the first movie during peak of his popularity.

[wind adder]

Being part of the Justice League, doesn’t mean Aquaman was some well known character to the general audience prior Momoa.

[craggy pawn]

What about the Flash then ??

Aquaman made over a billion dollars while Aquaman 2 made less than half of that

[wind adder]

The Flash is the most popular DC character after Batman and Superman. You’re just proving my point. DC is irrelevant outside Batman to the GA.

[craggy pawn]

We will find out soon

[wind adder]

When Superman itself is struggling, then you can imagine the other projects

[craggy pawn]

Nobody can predict what will happen next. Let's wait and see what happens next.

[wind adder]

Only Gunn’s cult thinks Superman is a success just because it’s doing well domestically. If I recall, he even acknowledged that the overseas performance isn’t great. These people are as deluded as Snyder fanboys if they think the DCU won’t end up a catastrophic failure.

Reevesverse should’ve been the main focus.

[wind adder]

Many predicted DCEU’s downfall since MOS and BvS.

Hell, when MOS underperformed, people were already skeptical.

[craggy pawn]

Nobody can say DCU is definitely gonna be a failure, you are not a fortune teller. Also, We are getting Batman 2.. we also got the Penguin TV show which was great. Reeves Batman is there also.

[wind adder]

Gunn exactly hasn’t made Superman more appealing to the general audience aside the U.S.

[tame tangle]

Superman is a canadian creation, just like basketball.

[wind adder]

Reevesverse isn’t part of the DCU. That’s what WB should be focused on, not another dumb shared universe bullshit.

[craggy pawn]

Oh.. so WB should only make Batman movies?? And ignore all other great DC characters, that's ridiculous.

[wind adder]

Not really. Basketball was also created and played first in the U.S.

[tame tangle]

its creator was canadian born

james naismith

[wind adder]

Yes, because they are terrible handling other characters. They want to make their own MCU, but they have failed with DCEU, and now DCU will be an epic disaster as well.

[somber bane]

I imagine that’s because we’ve had many Batman’s and many Batman movies, same with Superman while the rest don’t have too many movie appearances which is GA’s main way of knowing heroes but arrowverse has done some goodness in acknowledging some heroes. It’s just now that the shows nosedived and ended so their relevance has faltered

[craggy pawn]

We don't know that. Let's come back in a year and two, then discuss.

I'm excited about upcoming DCU projects. Can't wait for peacemaker season 2, Lanterns then, Supergirl looks interesting and very intrigued by Clayface. Gunn is also developing DCU Batman and wonder woman.

[wind adder]

Wasn’t James Naismith already an American citizen when he created the sport in Massachusetts? Pretty sure everybody considers Basketball as an American invention, and Superman as well.

Shuster was Canadian-American, while Siegel was American. Superman’s motto used to be “Truth, Justice, and the American way”.

He’s probably the most American superhero.

[tame tangle]

Eh. Potato, potahto.

if you guys think "naturalized american" means "american citizen", great. Just understand it applies to all naturalized.

or at least it should.

[karmic holly]

https://x.com/DCEUMX/status/1947157259982692704?

DC Unlimited (@DCEUMX)

😭

X · Jul 21, 2025, 4:50 AM

[timber obsidian]

CAUSE I'M A PUNK ROCKER YES I AM

[thick arch]

it will take more than one DC movie to rebuild dc brand, so they focus on more lower budget movies and quality to rebuild audience trust.

The issue with this movie is let’s say fantastic 4 is super mid it prob wouldn’t impact Superman, but fantastic 4 is…. Fantastic I worry Superman will reach 700m

[wind adder]

Fantastic Four will make this film irrelevant

[thick arch]

Don’t we need more data points we have only Superman and creature commandos to go off tho?

[thick arch]

Based on early reaction, I’m inclined to believe

[wind adder]

I mean just look at the trailer lol.

I’m not surprised it’s better.

[thick arch]

I strongly disliked the first 2 trailers and haven’t watched any since. I was checked out of fantastic 4 till this week, where I had a little more hype after rumors about the quality.

[wind adder]

I think people would be more hyped for F4 due to that post credit scene alone lol.

[thick arch]

Ah yeah, I had someone spoil ts for me 🥲.

Dude apparently based on some reactions (take with grain of salt) Pedro is amazing as Reed Richard’s, based on the two trailers I’d seen I felt he wasn’t gonna be that great

[wind adder]

I’m not much of a fan of his acting, but I heard he was a good Reed. The others were also good too apparently.

[timber obsidian]

You're failing to take into consideration how much extra revenue is being generated by this movie due to the increase in sales of comics, figures, other Superman movies, etc.

EVEN IF it doesn't break 500m, that's fine.

But it will, so long as WB circulates it in theaters long enough

Word of mouth is doing wonders

[golden frost]

It had the goodwill of the first Avengers movie lol

[golden frost]

Why does a Superman movie need to even be a billion dollar smash hit

[gritty tundra]

Because.... It would piss off the Snyder fans

Sorry cult

[stone turret]

THIS MOVIE SUCKED!!!! #SUPERSHIT

[golden frost]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-monkeys-computer-troll-trolls-gif-1367346278137899920

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/JamesGunn/status/1947719892154667503?t=BszqNWF_qK-TMUtpe9KiwA&s=19

James Gunn (@JamesGunn)

The Daily Planet's Jimmy Olsen, exquisitely portrayed by Skyler Gisondo. Happy birthday to Metropolis' ladies man. #Superman

Photo: Jess Miglio

X · Jul 22, 2025, 6:06 PM

https://x.com/vigilantsummers/status/1947533384366149637?t=Tuj1_2eYGp12vV1QnTKV4g&s=19

dav saw Superman! (@vigilantsummers)

actually insane 😭

X · Jul 22, 2025, 5:45 AM

This is crazy

[tropic bison]

very similar 🤔

[golden frost]

Very campy and uses overwhelmingly bright colors

[finite oracle]

Ngl he along with Josh Hutcherson were my first crushes when I was watching their movies as a kid. So seeing Jimmy get some attention was like an odd callback from those TASM days.

[inner solar]

Who else thinks the Justice Gang wasn’t needed?

[sharp hearth]

I loved the Justice Gang

[inner solar]

Mr Terrific was the best member of the group

[sharp hearth]

I didn't know who he was at all before but now i really want more of him

[steel ivy]

Guy Gardner was so damn good. The trailers made him look so goofy and the film made him seem much more than a silly haircut

[unreal widget]

Just re-watched it, god damn I enjoyed it even more. I think on a second watch I truly understand what this Superman is standing for, and experiencing it after knowing a lot of the major events helped me enjoy the visuals even more. All the visuals have a narrative purpose. I really liked it.

Fuckin hell the that scene where he's just commanding the narrative at the Pentagon.

This is awesome

I'm just a punk rocker yes I am

[inner solar]

I wonder what villains we’ll see if there’s a sequel

[unreal widget]

Bruh when he's protecting the baby with his life in the anti proton stream

[inner solar]

Hopefully Brainiac

[fallen solar]

becasue all big films need to make a billion now

[golden frost]

So that’s the bare minimum 😭

[fallen solar]

blame avengers. they did it first (for a superhero film)

[sharp hearth]

The Dark Knight did it before Avengers

[unreal widget]

I also think the translation is manipulated cause terrific says he heard someone say it's real instead of examining it himself. I think either lex made a really well doctored translation or he got an insider in the authorities doing it for him

[fallen solar]

initial worldwide 2008 gross of $997 million and subsequent releases thereafter.
So no, it didn't 🙂

[tame tangle]

movies should aim for high quality, low budget.

[unreal widget]

I don't trust lex's words

[sharp hearth]

I thought it had a rerelease before Avengers, but I looked it up and it was a couple months after

[unreal widget]

Also don't trust the authorities since they kinda submitted him to lex knowing what he was gonna do w him

[fallen solar]

also, you could argue that Dark Knight was a bit more of an elevated comic book film compared to Avengers, but the original point stands. studios have decided that only a billion counts as a success.

[golden frost]

Wild how Batman Begins made less than 400 million yet its sequel made a billion

[fallen solar]

and I'm in the minority of people who feel Begins was the best of the three.

[golden frost]

Better as a Batman movie

[thick arch]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8hwbXHw/

Gunn giving us absolute cinema with this

He doing ep per ep rewatch and hosting it with stars n shit

https://tenor.com/view/superman-superman-2025-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-absolute-gif-16255157591816255358

[sharp hearth]

Begins is my least favorite of the 3 but i still like it a lot

[stone turret]

lego batman is the blueprint

[timber obsidian]

Lego Batman unironically the second best Batman movie oops

[cedar ermine]

This is a spoiler channel

You dont have to spoiler warn anything in here

[finite oracle]

I was driving for work and that was the only movie thing that was uploaded that day.

[finite oracle]

I actually think this too.

[tame tangle]

no pirated footage means no pirated footage.

[finite oracle]

I had a theory that it might be a message that could help Kara cope with her purpose considering her careless partying and partial abandonment of her good boy Krypto. It would be neat, I’m fine with the parents being evil but it’s so awkwardly written to be translated in the way it has that at that point Lex’s engineer seems to be the source of that particular version. I do hope it also helps contextualize Clark’s struggles of his identity too with his cousin considering it’s awkward to think she lived that culture as a child and would know about the more sinister message.

[cedar ermine]

Yeah I misunderstood what was happening there lol

I got the context afterword, mb

[finite oracle]

I tend to listen because I like people who claim themselves to be film critics to actively betray that mentality with any film I’m aware of. For example: their Last Samurai vid had me stare the screen blankly as to how Mauler can’t empathize with country men killing one another…

What I’m most excited now is Supergirl and Brave and the Bold Batman. From the moment I heard that announced i was sold on the universe, it’s my favorite Batman and the most different. I hope this sees the light of day.

[timber obsidian]

Here's the thing though

The Batman movie they're doing is going to suck eggs if they're still going with the director of The Flash.

Granted, the bit of Batman action there was on that bridge was pretty cool

But I have no faith in that project

As of right now

[inner solar]

I was shocked to see John Cena in the movie lmao

[austere stream]

Lmfaoo

[keen mural]

I didn’t see him?

[craggy pawn]

It was absolutely needed for this story of Superman and to set up a world with other metahumans plus to differentiate them with Superman because while fighting the kaiju, Superman was most concerned about Collateral damage while the justice gang weren't.

[craggy pawn]

I'm excited about those both as well and I can't wait for DCU Batman to meet with Superman and how that dynamic is gonna be plus we are getting Bat family too, esp if Robin is Damian Wayne then we already may have Nightwing or Red Hood in DCU.

Regarding Mauler, he's just so negative all the time, he's no fun. Film threat is a bit more balanced than these guys esp with Superman discussion.

[cedar ermine]

i agree

its smart to introduce groups like that as early as possible so they dont run into introduction problems down the line

[austere stream]

I love how Gunn is able to make so many characters feel alive and compelling even with shorter screentime, alongside those with more screentime

He balanced everyone and everything so expertly so as to not make it feel overstuffed

He is great at balancing humour too
It never ruins or harms a moment

[cedar ermine]

I agree

i also love how he incorporates music

the only character that I would say could have used "better" writing is Hawkgirl

but i think she just needed more screentime than anything

[austere stream]

I cannot get enough of Nic Hoult as Lex
I love everyone but he was absolutely the best

[craggy pawn]

He was so good, can't wait to see him again

[austere stream]

One of his best performances too

[craggy pawn]

Yup

[ornate wharf]

I would actualy be really interested to talk to people who didn't like the film

see if my complaints are common.

I'm not saying i want o ttrash it or convince anyone it sucks, i didn't think it did -- but i was very not into it, and I'mc urious if other people felt the way i did.

[craggy pawn]

I'm sure there are other people

[tame tangle]

Only thing that pissed me of was Krypto being a mangy little mutt. Yes, i know its Jemas Gunn's dog's breed, but...Krypto"s a lab.

[sharp hearth]

Krypto looks kinda like my dog so i love the movie design

[bold basin]

I liked the change made it fun to see how cute but aggressive he is

[unreal widget]

I noticed the main themes a little more in the second viewing. It's used in a very subtle way through out the film. Also lex's theme.

[unreal widget]

I didn't mind cause it feels like a dog.

[finite oracle]

Especially the humor part. I think people forget what version of these heroes are meant to portray. It’s meant to be more light hearted, it’s deliberate and explicitly so, however, the series like in Brave and the Bold does not shy away from more serious episodes and those like Clayface horror film will be compelling of a watch.

[finite oracle]

If it looked like my Bishon Frise we would have problems. I don’t think this lil guy can be Krypto.

^seeing Superman crash in the beginning.

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/KixFb_QEuG0?si=hclnLUBDKHWMicCS

[timber obsidian]

Absolutely not clicking a video with a thumbnail like that

HURR HURR GIANT ARROW

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-oscar-the-grouch-annoyed-grouchy-shaking-head-gif-11325219852621120910

[keen mural]

I would’ve clicked if it was a red circle

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/ZuzlgPfuQZw?si=AQOATxp_6bP2ebFk

[timber obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

[austere stream]

Love this film so much

[nova nimbus]

https://letterboxd.com/bl4ckandmovies/film/superman-2025/ so glad I watched it

had a blast with the whole family

[timber obsidian]

I just can't wait to see it again with my wife

[fiery current]

This fucks

[blazing vigil]

That’s the way

God your banner fucks. I forgot you had that

https://fixupx.com/noquarter_dc/status/1947914634570436857 sexy editing. Right before it goes to vod no less lol

KP (@NoQuarter_DC)

Holy facking peak
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[tame tangle]

are you sure this footage can be used?

[blazing vigil]

It’s on Twitter

I didn’t make it

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/LKdPb0vdKB4?si=LRrPXluvE-bQW_aK

[stone turret]

btw james gunn has confirmed that the message was real and that he wont retcon it, saying its literally the entire point of the movie

he also confirmed again that dcu batman WONT be pattinson

[austere stream]

I swear he already confirmed both of these lol

[stone turret]

many times

but people keep asking him because they refuse to accept the truth

so he keeps having to confirm over and over again

its crazy how the literal ceo of dc studios will say something and people will be like "wellllll idk... anything could happen 🤷‍♂️"

like no

thats not how it works

[austere stream]

Lol

[thick arch]

Yup… it’s in the video…

[stone turret]

i would hope so lol

new rockstars has kinda fallen off recently, im getting more and more annoyed of erik voss

he holds onto weird personal theories with no evidence a little too much

[thick arch]

Also is the clip of lex with dictator in private where dictator calls him clever for faking but, lex says it was real. I’d forgotten that portion.

[stone turret]

and tries to present them as fact and base other info around them

[stone turret]

yeah he wouldnt tell a trusted confidant in private its real if he faked it

[thick arch]

In this he presents 4-5 options/idea about the tape he presents them in a way that isn’t dismissive and provides evidence for the one he agrees supports, so long as he isn’t criticizing the film for being poor if his ideas and theories don’t come to pass. I don’t have too much issue, he also had a brainiac theory which seemed intriguing idk if that will happen, it’ll be fun to see where this all goes with supergirl.

[stone turret]

but like

theres only one option

the message was real

[thick arch]

Was that from the mephitso thing back wandavisin

[stone turret]

i dont understand why people are theorizing about it

[stone turret]

i mean it was reasonable there

there were a lot of hints at characters like mephisto or nightmare in that show

but like he was convinced deadpool & wolverine didnt take place in the void and refused to acknowledge it might be (this was after the trailers were out)

[thick arch]

Voss’s idea 4 or 5 was that the message isn’t perfect translation mapping kryptonian to English. do humans in this universe have perfect tools that can map non earth languages to English correctly.

Eric makes the following point, words like “rule,” “conquer,” “dispatch” to humans carry strong authoritarian or violent connotations. But in Kryptonian, these could mean different things, “dispatching” could be difficult decisions for survival, rule ~ guide. Kinda like how some words get lost in translation like jihad which means to struggle. To some westerners they hear the word and it evokes “holy war” fear…etc

I’d def recommend skimming through his vid at the very least it’s more fun Superman content.

[thick arch]

That’s wild 😭

didn’t they show alioth in the trailer

[fallen solar]

Read a thing the other day that stuck with me - Superman is a firefighter, not a cop.
He's not there to uphold the law or bring people to justice. He's there to try and save as many people as possible, and I think this film really nailed that.

[stone turret]

yes

[golden frost]

This Jor El is straight up Omni Man and Superman is pretty much Mark

[timber obsidian]

CAUSE IM A PUNK ROCKER YES I AM

[wind adder]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-superman-overseas-1236326825/

[bold basin]

https://fixvx.com/themycira/status/1948325816384774194?t=tsCXlPhv62u08p8faCQk5A&s=19

lana (@themycira)

the squirrel that superman saved fighting lex’s monkeys online

QRT: eat5G
https://t.co/fcSQlYkWV9

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 24, 2025, 10:14 AM

[fallen solar]

Full Media Composer timeline. Editors William Hoy, and Craig Alpert

[thick arch]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kexCcj/

Where is the Superman set

[bold basin]

David corenswet wants a lego set so bad lol

They stopped making dc movie lego sets besides batman movies because of all the flopping and poor sales

[cedar ermine]

I will get on my knees and make an alter to james Gunn if he gets lego to make dcu sets

[fallen solar]

It feels more likely now

[bold basin]

Probably sometime next year we find out

[fallen solar]

They'd be silly not to make a Lego game from it.

[cedar ermine]

This movie was just so good

It was like if hope was a movie

The first act was a little slow

But the entire movie just understood the core concept of superman so well

[keen mural]

Maybe if I rewatch I’ll enjoy it more

[mild flax]

so one thing i didnt get... when Superman was in the pocket dimension, why did he still have powers? wouldnt that dimension be far away from Earths sun?

[wind adder]

Superman is like a solar battery. He absorbs and stores solar energy.

Him being far away from the sun doesn’t diminish his powers.

[timber obsidian]

Yeah, this

[gritty tundra]

I just realized something

Would Mr mxyzsptlk work as an antagonist in movies?

Because I would imagine fighting him is gonna be boring.

He's for sure gonna defeat the justice league alone and toy with them, that would be boring to watch

And the only way to defeat him wouldn't be good for movies either

He's kinda more fitting for television

[timber obsidian]

While it would be incredible visually, it would take so much time and money to get right

He works really well in My Adventures with Superman

It'd be like Bat-Mite

Any toon force character is bonkers

[gritty tundra]

True, in my adventure with superman they changed him a little bit I think

They would probably have to do the same if they want to make him the main antagonist

[fallen solar]

from my understanding, he's a trickster with no real evil intent. He could be an antagonist and a foil, but would probably need someone else to be the actual big bad

[wind adder]

Mr Mxy is the biggest Superman stan

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/JamesGunn/status/1948792658069012515?t=Bd-JDFGa8AFQxEOzNaZbuQ&s=19

James Gunn (@JamesGunn)

You asked for it, you got it. Here’s the full mural honoring the History of Metahumans in the DCU adorning the Hall of Justice in #Superman.

X · Jul 25, 2025, 5:09 PM

Ah nice

I don't recognise a lot of them

[finite oracle]

Because it’s so contrary to what we think of Kryptonians. They are the most evolved version of what humans could be. Which is why it’s a bit bothersome.

I think regardless if it’s true or not it never really mattered to Supes because he realized that the ones who were there to care for him and nurtured him were his parents.

I’d like the idea that the rest of the message was meant for Kara because now we have an awkward reality that I’m sure she is well aware is her duty considering her being an older cousin. It’s very Zod (MoS) like of a message and I get the change of pace but it’s more interesting revisiting the clash of ideal hero man of tomorrow figure vs Clark Kent’s identity being human like us. If anything that’s the core struggle with godlike characters that make em cool.

[finite oracle]

Awesome

[timber obsidian]

That's fine and all but honestly, the message of the movie hits harder when his Kryptonian parents aren't actually the best people

It's fine to change lore if it services the story

And this does

[thick arch]

That portion and the way it was integrated feels a little rushed. We get a scene of supes being distraught by the msg w/the justice gang then it’s kinda tossed to the background.

but it works

[finite oracle]

I thought it would service the story more by disclosing it with an “actual interpretation” in a later film, now it would be a retcon but it would be a plot point where Kara and Kal don’t understand one another as he already has a made up interpretation of his actual parents and Kryptonian society. It would be a neat revelation where you can have this horrible message and use it one more time (not like Michael Shanon in the DCEU) and re-contextualize Kara’s purpose while also helps Sueps from stereotyping Kryptonians as a backward society.

I think what really threw me off was the way how the interpretation goes to an extreme and it’s Lex of all people asserting that this is the truth. This along with Gunn flirting with current events to portray aspects of this movie, I thought this was a moment that depicts the good natured cause being misrepresented by assumptions laid out by the likes of msm types who paint a narrative. It uses empathy with Lex saying, “well, I’m afraid”. It also puts Superman down because he is saying, “what’s wrong with that?” at the first half of the message which can be conflated as him being in favor of the whole message, hence why people in Metropolis turned on him at an instant.

At the end of the day I’ve come to terms with it, but I just assumed based on what Gunn was depicting that this was the angle he was going for.

I genuinely love this movie. It’s just a genuine thought I had while watching which is why I believe it to be doctored by the monopoly cult driven Luthorcorp who has MIC, home tvs, resources for languages and tech research for crazy inventions at the whim.

[rustic yacht]

https://vxtwitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1948838142293016765

James Gunn (@JamesGunn)

From the late night couch in Metropolis to Hall H in San Diego! Exciting things coming this weekend at #SDCC.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 25, 2025, 8:09 PM

[quartz cedar]

The best superhero movie since The Batman - no competition whatsover, even with F4. Saw the film three times already. Just so fricking good

[finite oracle]

Yea it’s my favorite superhero film DC ever put out in terms of making a whole cinematic universe.

[cedar ermine]

I'd go as far to say it's the best live action superman adaption since Christopher reeve

[quartz cedar]

Literally the BEST title card for a superhero movie in YEARS

[finite oracle]

I agree

[cedar ermine]

That scene was honestly amazing

I could feel that hatred in lexs voice

[finite oracle]

Dude he might be my favorite Lex and this just started

I can see how much of a menace he will be with the way how much hate energy he gives into that role.

[quartz cedar]

He feels like a mix of a modern lex, with the New 52 comic version, with a side DCAU - cause that Lex was a pure hater too

Meaning he is by far, in my book, the best live action version of the character

[cedar ermine]

Without a doubt

This dude is PETTY

[quartz cedar]

Also, can we just appreciate Lex's Theme?? It's freakin AWESOME

[opal fog]

Superman, The Batman, Superman: The Movie, The Dark Knight, and Joker 2019 are the best DC movies ever released

[cedar ermine]

Agreed

[opal fog]

Superman ad on my screen 🥹

[agile fern]

1A 1A 1A 1A 1A 1AAAA👹

[stone turret]

do NOT let ultra man play battleship

[cedar ermine]

I heard a theory he might come back as bizzaro in the future

[stone turret]

thats my theory as well

[cedar ermine]

Itll be cool to see if that's the case

I'm honestly so hyped for the clayface film

We probably wont get a purely superman film for a while though

[craggy pawn]

https://thedirect.com/article/superman-hall-of-justice-mural-confirms-metahuman-dcu

That's some interesting worldbuilding

[wind adder]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laughing-haha-good-joke-gif-16725762

F4 was way better than Superman, and Thunderbolts was also better.

[cedar ermine]

Cant they have an opinion?

[wind adder]

Yeah and this is mine

“No competition whatsoever”
F4 says hi

[runic thunder]

It'd be funny if Jor-El and Lara's message to Kal-El to conquer, kill, and have many wives isn't reflective of Kryptonian society THEY'RE just the weird ones

[finite oracle]

Not comparable.

[wind adder]

I doubt it

That will be even more strange

[rustic yacht]

https://x.com/dcfilmnews/status/1949128529888661712

DC Film News (@DCFilmNews)

George R. R. Martin praises James Gunn’s ‘SUPERMAN’.

“Supes and I are old friends, and this is one of the best Superman movies in a long time... maybe ever. This new Superman reminds me of the version I used to read about when I was a kid.”

X · Jul 26, 2025, 3:23 PM

[near garnet]

Interaction completed

Piglin

Superman (2025)

Director: James Gunn
Runtime: 130 mins
Genres: Science Fiction, Adventure, Action
Rating: 3.96 (1.29M)
Stats: 1.39M • 211.95K • 671.27K

Searched 12 times

[thick arch]

Will be interesting to see f4 rating once 1.29 M rate it

[timber obsidian]

The best way they'd do that would be he comes back and Supes tries to rehabilitate him since he isn't under Lex's control anymore

But he can't help but mess it up lol

Would make for a fantastic dynamic

Cause I've never seen Bizarro as actually evil

[cedar ermine]

That would be really cool

[echo kraken]

Bizarro isn't evil I don't think, he's just... thinks different lol

[finite oracle]

470 million!!!!

[finite oracle]

Yea like water is dry and goodbye nobody. ;)

[thick arch]

🤞🏾 700

[finite oracle]

Saddest bizarro moment is in Red Som when he’s supposed to be America’s (Lex) response to Superman and notices he’s seen as a monster and a freak. He sees a nuclear missile and sends it to the air sacrificing himself with his final words: “hello, everybody. me very pleased to meet you”.

Red Son Superman is short but gets everything right about the character and also questions the very concept of his hero antics. “Why don’t you put the world in a bottle Superman?”, will always be my favorite punch line.

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/f6AZTfI54OU?si=jLRf2k9DhXRH8LFQ

[unreal widget]

WTF 472 M already

I actually thought the climb would slow down after F4

[stone turret]

seems pretty likely it passes 500M this weekend

[unreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-dancing-dance-tony-stark-iron-man-dance-gif-25978713

[cedar ermine]

After watching f4 and superman, I gotta say I liked this one more

[wind adder]

This seems more interesting than Superman.

[unreal widget]

I like both for different reasons both reasons make their respective characters better within the context of who they are.

[runic thunder]

it's funny when my parents came to see the movie, their immediate takeaway was that Nicholas Hoult was one hell of an actor as Lex Luthor

[unreal widget]

Right

[glass meteor]

I liked F4 more, I did like how they tried put the humor in Superman(the movie) but it was mostly miss for me. I also, found Superman's speech to Lex Luthor about being human cringy.

[finite oracle]

I thought the speech was pretty good in the sense that Superman is frustrated in proving a point and is trying to get that across the ego driven lex. I also really like how Lex consistently touts humanity’s greatest but really it’s a pretext to saying how great Lex is.

[golden frost]

If Zack Snyder directed this movie, the internet would rip it apart

[fallen solar]

Snyder could never direct this movie. Far too colourful and fun

[golden frost]

If he did everyone would despise it

[fallen solar]

I mean, I despise his DC films anyway

no, let me correct that - I despised his Man of Steel so much that I actively avoided all the others

[opal fog]

Bros whole purpose here is to shit on Superman

https://tenor.com/view/lex-monkey-monkey-lex-lex-monkey-typing-typing-gif-3929174101619105730

[tame tangle]

this how chatgpt works?

[opal fog]

Wouldn’t be surprised

[craggy pawn]

Absolutely not.. plus as already said by Koz, Snyder would never direct this type of movie

[golden frost]

I’m saying if he did

It would be ripped apart

[craggy pawn]

I disagree with that. Why would critics give a pass to Gunn if they didn't like this movie?

[opal fog]

This movie would’ve been way more violent, less joyful and more dark and depressing

And worst of all

No underwear…

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-dc-comics-its-over-womp-womp-gif-13929331042638963027

[golden frost]

Superman committing public nudity removing the trunks

[opal fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1380299396914352138/1397407521609879622/ezgif-1571fdef5ec929.gif

[golden frost]

Because they love James Gunn

And they hate Zack Snyder

[craggy pawn]

I don't think it works like that

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/Tn2FToCObfk?si=ym_d5FUrar0zsxHz

😭 yo this is nuts

Is there gonna be an upload every week?

[craggy pawn]

Yes.. for each episode of season 1 and also season 2

[mild flax]

Looks like Superman is gonna have an estimated final take of $600+ million world wide. Thats pretty good considering the competition it faces

[timber obsidian]

Word of mouth carrying

[stone turret]

also considering the current state of dc, not a single dc movie made it to even 400M in the last half decade

[unreal widget]

Since the beginning of time

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1949487695840899583?t=1AUjPt9JkqxdLf9Z88ocTw&s=19

Luiz Fernando (@Luiz_Fernando_J)

As projected, #SUPERMAN crossed the 500M mark at Global #BoxOffice, beating #Aquaman2’s 440.2M, #VenomTheLastDance’ 478.5M entire global runs, after grossing 19.8M on 3rd weekend overseas, harsh -56.2% drop due to #TheFantasticFour (vs #TheBatman’s 49.1M, -26.1% when it debuted

X · Jul 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

600 million dollars is definitely a possibility.. I think Superman will stay in theatres for at least a month

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1949499309239726092?t=Xao9mtMRby_YwEGvDou6CA&s=19

BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport)

Estimated totals through Sunday for Superman by international market include:

U.K. - $29.0M
Mexico - $20.3M
Brazil - $13.9M
Australia - $13.3M
France - $11.5M
China - $8.8M
Spain - $7.9M
India - $6.7M
S. Korea - $6.2M
Japan - $6.0M
Germany - $5.7M
Italy - $5.4M

#Superman

X · Jul 27, 2025, 3:57 PM

[mild flax]

i think shins right when he says word of mouth is carrying. Ive seen Superman and FF and feel Supermans word of mouth will be far better than FFs. I was kinda bored by FF

[craggy pawn]

Disagree with you about FF but I mean Superman is a bigger character than FF, I do think due to marvel brand FF might do better internationally

BTW.. FF made 118 million dollars domestic opening weekend.. a bit less than Superman but still good

[unreal widget]

We are good

[mild flax]

yrah FF will def do better worldwide. Supermans widely known to be al all American chacacter. Im honestly surprised anyone from another country watches him. If China had a superhero who fought for truth, justice and the Chinese way, i probly would skip it

[craggy pawn]

It has grossed over 200 million dollars internationally which for a quintessential American superhero ain't bad esp in the Times we are living in

[unreal widget]

I just need both to do well enough to stick around 😂

[craggy pawn]

Same

[wind adder]

F4 opened below Superman

Guess, I was wrong😑

The MCU brand is in much worse shape than I thought

[unreal widget]

Point is it doesn't matter if it's good it'll work

[wind adder]

What do you mean? F4 was great, but many people didn’t like the fact the film had less action.

Less action=less money for superhero movies

Superman was more of a spectacle and it will have stronger legs

[unreal widget]

Def not for the actual avg audience.

[mild flax]

my main takeaway with F4 was it made me feel as if id seen this movie 100 times before. just formulaic af and i was bored to tears

[unreal widget]

F4 has legs

[wind adder]

The average audience literally want more action lol. Superman has opened more than F4 for a reason.

[mild flax]

I didnt get the feeling from Superman that I'd seen this film before

[wind adder]

One common complaint I’m seeing is that F4 had less action scenes. Even though the movie is great, but that’s just my opinion.

There is also another factor. Marketing

[wind adder]

I thought the opposite. It was not your typical MCU movie and felt different.

Maybe that’s why I liked it so much. The cinematography, the writing and certain set pieces was very un MCU like.

[unreal widget]

Idk where you got that analysis cause in my theatre everyone was genuinely focused on the experience.

[wind adder]

Like ||that space sequence in the film wasn’t your typical MCU experience.||

[mild flax]

||quipping characters every 5 minutes, the earth about to be destroyed and only a select group of heroes who are good for the sake of good can stop it. they save the day and no one was killed. Ive seen this film 100 times.|| Boring to me

[wind adder]

||Characters in this film wasn’t quipping 5 minutes. If anything it was a more serious movie than Superman lol. In Superman, it was all jokes and had less seriousness. Even during serious situations, they were cracking jokes.||

||The only jokes came from Johnny and even in this movie, he was way more mature than I expected.||

[mild flax]

||flameguy and rockman were quipping with each other everytime they were together||

[wind adder]

||There is no way in hell you think Reed, Sue and Ben was cracking jokes every time. Aside Johnny and Mole Man, there were barely any jokes. Hell, we see Reed and Johnny get mad at Mole Man when he cracked a joke, but he only did it to ease the pressure. It’s a more serious and darker film than Superman.||

[unreal widget]

Guys there's a spoilers channel dedicated 😂

[mild flax]

yes, but we're comparing it to Superman...

[unreal widget]

Then do it wo the tags its a spoilers channel anyways

😂

[wind adder]

||They weren’t quipping every time though. This movie was far more serious than Superman. Superman was making jokes during serious sequences in this movie with Mr Terrific for example and there are fight scenes in this movie treated as joke.||

[mild flax]

i guess my hatred of the FF going into the film plays into it. Ive hated the FF characters and powers for the last 45 years. They probly wouldve had to make the greatest cape film in history for me to like it

[unreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-thinking-of-you-gif-3819355119086486158

[thick arch]

Where is this narrative coming from?

[wind adder]

No way you think this movie is more serious💀 when fights are treated as jokes here.

[mild flax]

i guess Gunns way of joking lands with me more than the jokes in FF

[unreal widget]

+1

[wind adder]

There you go

[thick arch]

Some of the highlights I’ve seen from the YouTube crowd has been praise for them taking time to portray the characters correctly

[craggy pawn]

Oh yes plus.. FF doesn't have huge name recognition as Superman

[mild flax]

||the jokes in F4 are like Madam Webb level terrible jokes||

[craggy pawn]

No

[wind adder]

Dude, there were barely any humour in F4.

[mild flax]

we can agree to disagree 🙂

[thick arch]

They fall flat but idk if they are Madam Webb level bad

[wind adder]

It was more like a DC movie than MCU movie

[unreal widget]

And their pre-marketing was lousy

[thick arch]

Dawg there def is, it’s just dry humor

[craggy pawn]

The trailers didn't hit much and hence they released clips..

[wind adder]

Yeah, but pretty minimal. Reed was incredibly serious.

[thick arch]

Reed and Sue were serious

[wind adder]

Johnny is supposed to be funny, but Quinn’s version was more serious than Chris Evans’ iteration.

[craggy pawn]

I had zero problems with humour in F4.. none

[thick arch]

The moments between, Johnny + Ben, Johnny+ Silver surfer, Herbie

[craggy pawn]

FF powers meaning you don't like Incredibles too?

[mild flax]

Incredibles is far and away better than the FF. Those powers look way better in cartoon form as well

[craggy pawn]

I agree with this.. there were stuff in Superman that was unique like pocket universe

[unreal widget]

Same I loved the restraint. Especially after love and thunder.

[gritty tundra]

Oh what some f4 spoilers

[wind adder]

Yeah, but what does that have anything to do with my point? Superman was more of a mindless popcorn movie, so people would prefer to watch that

[craggy pawn]

Ya.. let's not talk F4 in here

[wind adder]

F4 even opened below Superman and the latter has crossed 500 million.

[craggy pawn]

You mean F1

[thick arch]

The scenes were they took time to show us these characters are praised, most people glaze the family aspect of the movie which is good , what scenes solidify the family aspect?

[wind adder]

Nah F4. It has opened below Superman by 2 mil.

[thick arch]

More the the quieter scenes show there family dynamic

[craggy pawn]

Oh yes.. it is all about legs and word of mouth.. F4 has that too

[wind adder]

Yes, it’s supposed to do better due to the family aspect.

[craggy pawn]

Superman does have more action scenes than F4 though and people love more action scenes esp for a repeat viewing

[wind adder]

Idk

[wind adder]

We’ll see

[craggy pawn]

One reason Superman is doing well is because a lot of people are watching it many times

I think at this point.. Superman could be the biggest superhero movie of the year

[wind adder]

I think it was earlier predicted to open more than 220 million.

[thick arch]

Superman had a clear message, one of the them where actively intervening in international politics and even inspires the less actionable Justice gang to take action by end of the movie to stop a situation they found to be morally wrong, similar to current events in America where people who have power are just sitting idly by and watching democracy get crapped on- it’s meant to inspire people not to be bystanders.

In contrast, F4 resembles a “disaster” movie, with Galactus as an overwhelming force of nature. It’s got cool implications for MCU story, and also the whole Sue breaking stereotypes of pregnant woman thing was good.

Clark faces challenges in being recognized as “human,” as seen in his intense discussion with Lex at the film’s end. It’s not just a one off either there are many others throughout the film that to me imply it’s meant to serve as an allegory for the experiences of non-white immigrants and undocumented individuals, whose intentions are often questioned.

[wind adder]

Superman is white. He’s also Godlike

Can’t compare tbh

Your average immigrant in America had to work much harder and the struggle they went through isn’t something I would compare with a fictional Godlike character who could conquer the whole world if he chose to.

[tame tangle]

Less action does equall better. Just look at Andor.

[opal fog]

Damn

[thick arch]

You’re right that Superman is godlike, but his story isn’t meant to be a 1-1 match with an average immigrant’s life.

It’s metaphorical, Lex’s manipulation of the media mirrors real world xenophobic propaganda, where fear is weaponized to turn people against immigrants or undocumented groups. Superman’s character is recast as a threat, not because of his actions, but because of what he is, a foreigner.

reflecting the way some immigrants are vilified not for their deeds, but for their origins or perceived differences.

Another moment, this one is small but highlights solidarity among the marginalized. When bystanders remain passive, it’s the immigrant who offers a hand, someone who knows what it’s like to be scapegoated. It’s not subtle, and it’s not meant to be. It’s empathy through shared struggle.

Supergang who once trusted Superman begin to doubt him after Lex’s propaganda. This reflects how public perception of immigrants can turn quickly, especially when institutions and peers are influenced by fear based messaging. even integration and contribution can be undermined by suspicion.

The conversation with Lex and Superman is on the nose, so I won’t recite that.

[opal fog]

@wind adder JUMPSCARE

[wind adder]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[cedar ermine]

For me it just felt more emotional

I left the cinema with profound sense of hope and happiness. With fantastic four I enjoyed it and was excited for doomsday but that's it

[cedar ermine]

Hes also an alien. Doubt any average white person can relate to that 🤷‍♂️

[finite oracle]

600 is possible!!!

[opal fog]

You’re like Lex

The sight of Superman just disgusts you

You hate Superman

You are somehow more obsessed with this movie more than people who like it

[wind adder]

Doesn’t make sense lol. Superman and Batman are my favourite superheroes after Spider-Man.

[opal fog]

Sure don’t act like it

[wind adder]

That’s funny because I think Corenswet’s Superman was the best live action Superman after Christopher Reeve. I just didn’t like the movie as much as people here in the server.

You actually sound like a fanboy

[finite oracle]

:(

[echo kraken]

I was predicting 600-625 by 30days…

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-proceeding-as-i-have-foreseen-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-everything-going-according-to-plan-everything-going-ok-gif-2215291108627871761

[finite oracle]

You^

[echo kraken]

Yes, looks like they might be short a bit I think…

[finite oracle]

We’ll see Sunday numbers tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-gif-26051005

[echo kraken]

Not really gonna help that much… Disney pushed hard for Fantastic Four, I still think Superman didn’t have enough marketing penetration.

[finite oracle]

Word of Mouth will get it done! At least that’s what I’ve been doing for the film.

I just need this DCU to not fail when Brave and the Bold is out!

[glass meteor]

I see loads of videos on both Youtube and TikTok marketing Superman, not much of Fantastic Four.

Guys, I saw the movie when it came out and found it mid, would a rewatch change my mind? I have the possibility to go watch Superman again because of my unlimited cinema subscription

[unreal widget]

For me it's whenever a new flash is announced, that character deserves so much more 😮‍💨

[tame tangle]

So i guess just because you read a page from the Quran doesent mean that they all believe it, just like Superman didnt go for his parent's original message.

[finite oracle]

I’m just tired of Frank Miller Batman, I find him boring.

Even the newest ones

The Batman had me and my four other friends bored out of our minds.

[unreal widget]

I think he was introduced too soon

And affleks Batman is not franks Batman that character had build up

[finite oracle]

But like Batman after that has been more serious and edgy in the movies which is why I got annoyed. Brave and the Bold animated show was so different yet so cool because you use every hero!

[opal fog]

Corenswet Superman is not the best yet

Christopher Reeve will always be the best

[finite oracle]

I mean Frank as in all the edgy attempts of making any nu-Batman.

[opal fog]

Well idk about always cause I think David needs at least 2 more movies to surpass him

[wind adder]

Can’t you read?

I said he’s the best live action Superman after Reeve.

[finite oracle]

Both Zack and Nolan were “inspired” by DKR…

[opal fog]

I was just giving my opinion

[unreal widget]

In a distant future it works as one of the possibilities

[finite oracle]

I’ll give up on DC if that happens…

[unreal widget]

But in Batman's prime I want him to be as slick as a ninja

[tame tangle]

I also dont want him to be West batman.

[finite oracle]

I hate Batman being super serious.

[wind adder]

Batman is an edgy and serious character lol

[finite oracle]

Brave and the Bold isn’t that

[opal fog]

I want DCU’s Batman to be like dcau if he had a robin and fantastical

[tame tangle]

So if you dont have Adam West Batman, and you dont have serious batman, what have you got?

[wind adder]

It’s not Frank Miller who did that. He always was a serious character since Bob Kane and Bill Finger created the character. Only during the silver age, Batman was written as campy, but that was all DC characters back then.

[opal fog]

Burton’s Batman

[finite oracle]

Nope. Not when he premiered, he had a past in issue 1 but that wasn’t on his adventures lol

[tame tangle]

so serious batman

[opal fog]

Wait no Batman Forever

[opal fog]

Batman Forever

He’s not Adam West but he’s not that serious either

And I liked Batman Forever

[finite oracle]

He wasn’t. He just shot people and hanged them on his glider.

That isn’t edgy

That’s just pulp

[wind adder]

Batman was edgy and serious when he was created lol. Maybe pick up a comic? He was only campy during the silver age, which is what the Batman tv series was based on.

[tame tangle]

the credit card dude?

[opal fog]

I meant Val Kilmer

[wind adder]

How isn’t that edgy? Hell, he used to maim his enemies back then. If anything he was more willing to kill.

[opal fog]

Even though him and George Clooney’s Batman are the same, Kilmer was way better

[tame tangle]

he was dark and edgy, clooney wasnt

[wind adder]

Then Dennis O’Neil brought back Batman as the serious and dark character, which is what he always as intended by Kane and Finger.

[tame tangle]

cloney is the only live action bat who didnt kill anyone.

[sharp hearth]

pattinson:

[tame tangle]

in the burtonverse, my bad

[wind adder]

The Brave and the Bold cartoon and Silver Age Batman were just more goofy iterations of a serious character. Kinda like what Roger Moore was to James Bond.

This is like saying Superman is an edgy and dark character due to Cavill’s version. When, he’s supposed to be a lighthearted character.

Which is what Gunn brought back in this movie

Likewise, Batman is a serious and dark character. Adam West version of Batman is what Cavill was to Superman.

[tame tangle]

i dunno, i prefer dcau superman, i think.

[finite oracle]

There were elements of edge for the character but that wasn’t in his adventures at all times. Brave and the Bold was him experienced and having fun with his enemies even in the middle of his struggles. I grew up with that animated show with a mix of gold and silver age. So yea I prefer a mix of that over the new ones.

[tame tangle]

dunno if i can handle a swashbuckling batman that no one's afraid of.

[opal fog]

It’s just a cartoon tbh, why make a family friendly cartoon into a dark and edgy brutal Batman

[finite oracle]

Opposite, he’s not really afraid of no one.

[opal fog]

It’s like people being mad at Teen Titans Go like get over it

[wind adder]

There was always that edge to his character. Brave and the Bold isn’t his mainstream portrayal. I don’t care if you grew up with that version. There are people who grew up with Cavill’s Superman, that doesn’t mean Superman is a dark character, is he?

[opal fog]

It’s a kids show

[wind adder]

Batman TAS and Arkham games are the best adaptation of the comic books. That’s how Batman is supposed to be

[tame tangle]

and no one.s afraid of him.

[finite oracle]

I prefer the Brave and the Bold, I don’t really care if it isn’t, it’s something different from a consistently grounded approach to Batman since 2005.

[tame tangle]

Absolute yes.

[opal fog]

I respect that

we all have opinions, some are just not bright enough to understand

[wind adder]

Say that, instead of misinforming people that Batman is supposed to be a goofy character

[opal fog]

He didn’t

[wind adder]

He did

[opal fog]

He just said that was his preferred version

[tame tangle]

Batman carried a gun in his first comics, goofy my ass.

[finite oracle]

My apologies if I didn’t make it clear, I didn’t want to say he was definitively silver age. Im at work.

[wind adder]

Gunn also stated DCU Batman will never be campy.

[opal fog]

On everyone’s lives here the best Batman is Batfleck

#SellTheSnyderVerse

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut

#Supershit

[wind adder]

It’s dead. Nobody cares about the Snyderverse aside few.

[tame tangle]

Best batman was Keaton for me.

[opal fog]

Best Batman is DCAU Batman imo

[wind adder]

Yeah my fav live action portrayal.

[sharp hearth]

pretty sure hes joking

[opal fog]

Live action though I’d say it’s Battinson

[finite oracle]

I don’t think I’m wishing him to be outright goofy but more like a classic World’s Finest style

[tame tangle]

Conroy for animated, of course.

[opal fog]

Auraman > Supershit

[sharp hearth]

i havent seen the burton/schumacher series but my favorite live-action Bruce is Bale and my favorite live-action Batman is Pattinson

[wind adder]

The best Batman in general was Kevin Conroy though.

[finite oracle]

Period

[tame tangle]

Keaton has more Bruce time.

[opal fog]

The best Superman is Nicolas Cage

[sharp hearth]

i havent seen the burton/schumacher series

[finite oracle]

the Hoss Delgado one is second

[tame tangle]

yah, the one that cant fly, needs bodyguards and has Braniac fighting polar bears.

[opal fog]

Who

[finite oracle]

Harley Quinn and Brave and the Bold one

[opal fog]

No other Superman has been able to fight a huge spider all I know

https://tenor.com/view/fantastic-four-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-fantastic-4-reed-richards-gif-17187548613224374356

[tame tangle]

they just never faced one.

[opal fog]

Nah nah but fr

The best Superman imo is Christopher Reeve

[finite oracle]

Will Arnet Batman is a great one

[tame tangle]

Agreed, but Cavill Superman had better fight scenes.

[sharp hearth]

ive only seen Cavill and Corenswet. the latter was way better.

[opal fog]

Zod one was cool but it’s just pure destruction with him barely saving anyone and causing more casualties

Especially in BvS’s POV

[finite oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lego-batman-movie-lego-batman-2017-saul-gif-10041033496366052992

[tame tangle]

they should have taken that fight to the antarctica

[opal fog]

Why there

[tame tangle]

no collateral

[finite oracle]

Imagine you’re a kid watching Superman 2 then later watching MoS

[tame tangle]

kids today wouldnt get the reeves movies

[wind adder]

Cavillman should’ve made sure the entire fight took place in space.

[finite oracle]

I saw a clip of Zod throwing a wall at Superman from Superman 2.

So humble vs the city destruction seen in MoS and BvS

[tame tangle]

it was 1980

[finite oracle]

I couldn’t tell. (Sarcasm)

[wind adder]

Reeve’s Superman was smart enough to later fight them in the Fortress

The fight in MOS was just pure chaos. Great fight though.

Liked the cinematography and action. I think this is where Snyder’s strength lies, but the writing was just too flawed.

[tame tangle]

Superman returns had no fights. just a humiliating beatdown.

[finite oracle]

Destroying five office buildings with one throw.

[wind adder]

I found that movie pretty boring when I watched it first as a kid. Now, it’s decent.

[finite oracle]

Lasering a side of a building compromising structural integrity.

Poster looks cool

Idk I like it a lot

Haven’t seen the film. Just the trailer

[opal fog]

Highest IQ Superman is also Christopher Reeve

[finite oracle]

When I was 5

[tame tangle]

not a fan of the supersuit neither.

[finite oracle]

Technically Superman 3.

[opal fog]

Superman Returns was nice

Superman Returns is like good but forgotten

It’s like Batman Forever

[tame tangle]

it just felt to me like it was missing something.

superman returns

[opal fog]

Yeah

It’s missing that oomph

Like there’s not really any big charm in it

Like other Superman movies

It doesn’t feel special

But it’s good

Like a 7.5/10

Same level of Man of Steel imo

[finite oracle]

Really weird era of CG big budget films like Sky Captain

[opal fog]

Yeah

[wind adder]

Val Kilmer’s Batman felt out of place in that silly movie. He was a good Batman/Bruce Wayne, but Schumacher’s direction was the main issue.

[opal fog]

The cgi is inconsistent for Superman Returns

Like one moment his suit is bright while flying then the next it’s very dark

I like the suit but it’s too dark

[tame tangle]

Made the batsuits ultra sexualized with the huge codpieces and shit.

[finite oracle]

At least he apologized. Schumacher that is.

Have yet to see Bat and Rob or Forever

Not even Burton.

[tame tangle]

Nicholson's joker is where its at.

[wind adder]

According to Bob Kane, Kilmer was the best Batman.

[tame tangle]

the burton Batman is a joker movie, make no mistake.

and its a better one than anything Joachim Phoenix ever did

[finite oracle]

:(

Joker movie is quite an anomaly

[tame tangle]

I'm sorry, i cant pretend like i like it. Its another movie that was forced to be changed into a dc movie

the joker movie

[finite oracle]

That movie had the most reactions vs any other movie I’ve shown. Even my dad was quite thoughtful of what he saw and that’s rare even for anything comic like.

What definitely helped the first is its indirect imitation of 70s grit films. My dad’s favorite is the French Connection so Joker was a bit easy to win him over on aesthetics alone.

[wind adder]

Another movie forced to be changed into a DC movie?

Which is the other movie you’re referring to

[wind adder]

Not really

Do you think TDK is a Joker movie too?

[unreal widget]

Yeah, mostly, the Batman character doesn't really evolve or have a noticeable arch. Except for the Rachel part

[finite oracle]

Anyone even read DK3 Master Race?

[civic marten]

He has a very clear arc I’m ngl

He starts off cocky, breaching international borders and rounding up criminals faster than they can be processed, but this only makes the situation worse and in the end he has to kill his own myth to restore order.

Joker is emblematic of him thinking criminals are black-and-white, “punch them and lock them up” thugs, and demonstrates how brute force trains them to be craftier

[tame tangle]

You see more of the Joker than batman and Nicholson has top billing, his name comes before michael keaton. plus he had a higher salary

so yeah, joker movie.

[blazing vigil]

Teehee. As soon as I saw that she responded to me saying that she thought it wasn’t mature I knew she was going to drop a fat take. Lol. Typical Amelia fashion

[opal fog]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-batman-and-robin-cartoons-gif-10953974

[thick arch]

Whose Amelia

[blazing vigil]

Once member here

[craggy pawn]

Loved this worldbuilding from Gunn..these are the heroes shown in the Mural at Hall of justice.. interesting that Maxwell Lord is there too.

Out of all these characters I only knew about Wildcat as he was in that one Justice league unlimited animated series. These are super obscure characters and Gunn has said we may see a couple of them in movies soon.

[solid smelt]

I need to show this message to so many people I know who don't like the El change lmfao

[unreal widget]

Soo that crouched guy isn't jay?

[craggy pawn]

No

[unreal widget]

Awww

[unreal widget]

Why's this movie coming online so soon

Let it compete

[cedar ermine]

Unfortunately its incredibly common with a lot of movies now

At this rate, doomsday will be on disney plus 1 week after its theatrical release

[wind adder]

It won’t lol

That’s a major event movie

[cedar ermine]

T'was a joke

[wind adder]

We were this close getting a fight between Supes and Gardner.

https://tenor.com/view/fight-smile-happy-gif-12618427

[cedar ermine]

That wouldve been so fire to see

[timber obsidian]

Y'all got a take F4 talk out of here

[blazing vigil]

^

[golden frost]

Cos WB is happy with just 500 million

[craggy pawn]

It's August 28 I think.. still a full month remaining and it would have made vast majority of its money already

[craggy pawn]

Oh come on.. I think major marvel movies will get a minimum 45 days and we are living in a time when most movies make most money in that time..

[opal fog]

Sinners was in theaters for like 3 months

[unreal widget]

Damn

[opal fog]

I’m sure if you give Superman 2 months it should reach at least 750m

[gritty tundra]

I wonder if brainiac have something to do with the change in krypton

[thick arch]

I thought it was the 26th?

[craggy pawn]

Maybe

[stone turret]

he doesnt

james gunn confirmed directly that the message was legit and unaltered and authentic and that it will not be retconned

because having it be a mistranslation or brainiac or anything else would literally just undo the entire message of the movie

[thick arch]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8k6v62V/

that red kryptonite hits different

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/YNYxxxrz6VA?si=iGD8m2lmB-2tGDcN

[thick arch]

So much passion from Gunn it’s wild

[craggy pawn]

Ya, he loved making this show.

[gritty tundra]

I don't mean this

I meant what if Kryptonian in this universe are working for or with brainiac

His parents had no choice but to obey or something like that

[stone turret]

i mean it would still undermine the message of the movie

the point is that his parents wanted him to be a conquerer and a ruler

if they were forced into it then it wouldnt be so impactful

[cedar ermine]

Exactly

[craggy pawn]

I don't think Brainiac is involved as well

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/cade_onder/status/1949527552395243758?s=46

Cade Onder (@Cade_Onder)

fun fact: this is the first non-Batman related DC movie to make $500M since 2018’s Aquaman.

There have been 10 non-Batman related DC projects since then.

X · Jul 27, 2025, 5:49 PM

This just shows how DC brand was in tatters

[viscid parcel]

Somehow ai didn’t recognize Bradley Cooper

Also Mr. Terrific’s costume design is amazing

[craggy pawn]

Yes

[golden frost]

They shouldve made these into popcorn buckets for MoS

[finite oracle]

Very 1:1 from the source material.

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1950216851738214779?t=Qrtskjov49qYOYT7ORjz_Q&s=19

Luiz Fernando (@Luiz_Fernando_J)

#SUPERMAN beats #ManOfSteel’s 291M run as highest grossing Supes film at US #BoxOffice!
SUPER 3M on #5 BIGGEST 3rd MON in DC history (see below), but harsh -56.5% drop from last MON (vs #SpiderManFarFromHome’s 2.9M, -47.4%, #Thor4’s 3M, -44.1%, #SpiderManHomecoming’s 3.4M,

X · Jul 29, 2025, 3:28 PM

[agile fern]

https://youtu.be/eTzzMwwrcCw?si=xsbnW8ycdQGtODDL

[cedar ermine]

Lex monkeys seeing this:

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-case-oh-rage-angry-gif-4433681102205926336

[viscid parcel]

I love how the Justice gang’s outfits are literally just letterman jackets

It adds to the retro campy vibe super well

[austere stream]

Love this film

[thick arch]

https://youtu.be/R1C56NXfVV0?si=_al-8MHEfCAbA9Fi

[steel ivy]

https://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/digital-releases/2025/8/digital-hd-releases-august-2025

supes is out on vod on aug 15th

[sharp hearth]

Final reckoning coming AFTER rebirth and Superman is crazy

[steel ivy]

I’d heard it was supposed to be on 26th idk it’s still up in air till we get official confirmation but my bets on either 15th or 26th

[opal fog]

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-dc-comics-its-over-womp-womp-gif-13929331042638963027

Why so fucking early

[viscid parcel]

Evil long hair David Corenswet had me acting up lowk

[thick arch]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-some-water-parveen-kaur-saanvi-bahl-manifest-drink-water-gif-16687429

[wind adder]

💀

[unreal widget]

Can't wait to see the consequences of that

[blazing vigil]

What am I looking at

[unreal widget]

Boravian pm death

[solid smelt]

Watching this later lmfaoooo

I was ranting to my partner the other day about this, but those guys & Critical Drinker & Co. are just a cesspool in the realm of film & media critiquing. Achieving contradictions at a speed I thought not possible 😭

[solid smelt]

Anyways this scene GOATed

[wind adder]

There won’t be any consequence

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1950939948216938561?t=0i2hPWkqumBql27rHso3IA&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

James Gunn’s ‘SUPERMAN’ has become the first solo Superman movie to pass $300M domestically.

Read our review: https://t.co/3sWy8gsNCU

X · Jul 31, 2025, 3:21 PM

[golden frost]

Because it’s a comic world, no consequences

[craggy pawn]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1950943982768558403?t=Asfw-MfXFFqrolwl0tTd1A&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

Hideo Kojima gives praise to James Gunn’s ‘SUPERMAN’:

“It was neither dark nor stylish, cool or even “super.” The perspective of the audience—the distance and elevation—is different from the “Superman” we used to LOOK UP (into the sky) to. This film gently observes the human

X · Jul 31, 2025, 3:37 PM

[glass meteor]

That's surprising. Never thought I'd hear him talk about Superman

[wind adder]

Why lol

https://x.com/screentime/status/1950947751400812945?s=46&t=_AWFhpIAIwbUeGd6RdGh0A

ScreenTime (@screentime)

James Gunn says he's currently writing the 'SUPERMAN' sequel

X · Jul 31, 2025, 3:52 PM

[glass meteor]

Damn, he's fast

[stone turret]

he watches like every new movie and posts about it

[glass meteor]

I see, didn't know that

[stone turret]

whenever kojima doesnt like a movie he just posts that he watched it with no review, if he likes the movie then he writes a paragraph about it

[glass meteor]

That's a good way not to discourage some Hollywood crossovers

[wind adder]

Post MGS Kojima is mediocre

Death Stranding was one of the most boring games I’ve played.

Then he ironically claims modern games are boring and safe.

[glass meteor]

I've bought Death Stranding Director's Cut and have yet to play it, it doesn't really appeal to me. But anyways, I'm happy Peacemaker season 2 is coming out soon. Hawkgirl and the Green Latern is in it, I've also heard that the first episode will have a lot more nudity than Season 1

[wind adder]

Peacemaker S2 is pretty much a continuation of Superman in a way.

I bet Superman will have a cameo.

[glass meteor]

Yeah, 1 month post Superman. I wonder what we will see

[opal fog]

99% sure this is a Superman: Brainiac adaption https://x.com/screentime/status/1950947751400812945

ScreenTime (@screentime)

James Gunn says he's currently writing the 'SUPERMAN' sequel

X · Jul 31, 2025, 3:52 PM

[karmic holly]

https://x.com/KijCilic/status/1950662274781433971?

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Justice Gang

#Superman

X · Jul 30, 2025, 8:58 PM

[opal fog]

Guy Gardner posing in the middle

https://tenor.com/view/losrcore-donald-glover-wes-anderson-fantastic-mr-fox-gif-16214705097340830824

[finite oracle]

That guy had a six hour stream of him critiquing episode 3 and the nitpicking was so absurd and stupid it’s like his ilk became EFAP for that episode.

I believe this was before the southpaw drama SK got himself involved with because his channel purged older videos that had a similar EFAP format. One of the complaints they had was in Utapau and saying how location of the Obi c grevious fight was a major oversight because the catwalk/open space surrounds both characters when the establishing shot is clearly set on the repurposed trade federation ship that’s placed on the side of the hole city.

Tl;dr for a moment he became the very thing he swore to destroy.

[austere stream]

SK annoys me because too often they just dont respond to something in what is meant to be a full response vid
They play that "i will not dignify that with a response" over an over

[finite oracle]

Yea. At this point I feel too old to even deal with the likes of these creators who act like they know how to criticize film without actually trying to look for artistic intent of the product.

That’s not to say some are just cash grabs like Epic movie, but there is thought to lots of films that is coming from the head of a director and while it may be a bit wonky such as Anakin in a starfighter in Episode 1; the artist (Lucas) recognizes this odd situation but also uses it as a part of the motif of symbionts throughout Episode 1 and the saga as a whole.

Small rant here:

Just open up a criterion copy and just read a nice essay about the films or better yet listen to the commentary. One of my favorite criticisms is that Ridley Scott “changed”. When in fact Ridley has been exploring the same ideas he had since Duelists and Alien along with incorporating himself as someone who is an atheist in amidst of the beliefs of man and their struggles with mortality. It’s been there since Alien but also Prometheus’ plot which was a thought he had since 97’ commentary. He hasn’t changed at all, if anything he’s been given more liberties which unfortunately exposes his narrative weakness when picking a good script writer.

Superman still good

[karmic holly]

https://fixupx.com/feyooons/status/1950949868878377453?
Oh thats nice

fey 💫 (@feyooons)

i think they'd be great friends <3
︀︀#Superman #Paddington

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FixupX · Jul 31, 2025, 4:01 PM

[opal fog]

Superman & Supergirl: Brainiac

[gritty tundra]

Honestly I want to see Lois lane led series

Maybe the time she first date Clark or something

It would be sweet to see their relationship started

Even tho we already know it'll happen

Of course this will be the side story

The main one will be journalism

[craggy pawn]

I doubt Gunn will do that as a series

[wind adder]

We are already getting a Jimmy Olsen series.

[craggy pawn]

That's not officially confirmed

[opal fog]

Idk if that’d work

That’d be really pushing it tbh

Like it’s an interesting cinematic world but nobody would care to watch a Lois lane series

That’d just be a waste of money

[fallen solar]

The New Adventures of Superman ran for 5 seasons, I think

That was pretty much her show

Ok, 4 seasons

[craggy pawn]

BTW, Gunn has to be very careful here because they can't make the same mistake as MCU whereby some of the TV shows were required viewing before watching movies like Multiverse of madness or Marvels and casual audiences don't like that.

So, I highly doubt we will see a DCU show with a prominent character that's a must see before watching a movie.

[civic marten]

I don’t think any of these movies or shows are going to be “must see”

I’m pretty sure that’s the whole idea

It’s not one overarching thing so much as a bunch of stories set in one universe

[craggy pawn]

Gunn has said that Lanterns TV show will give a hint on the big picture though but ya I can't imagine Gunn being stupid enough to make TV shows must see before watching the movies

[civic marten]

But I don’t really think any MCU TV Show is a “must see” either

I think they just advertised them that way for some stupid reason

If The Marvels was our intro to Kamala Khan, it’d be no different

They’ve made themselves look inaccessible for no reason

[sharp hearth]

Loki is
Not because it's needed to understand other things, but because it's peak and contains what is arguably the best character arc in CBM history

[civic marten]

Yeah Loki is fab

But I bet you won’t need to have seen it to understand Doomsday

They’ll catch everyone up

[stone turret]

it seems like loki will be an important character in doomsday, but as you said im sure they will catch people up

[echo kraken]

Doesn’t look like Superman will reach 600-625mil prediction I had, unless this weekend has a massive boost. Which is still not likely.

FF is also falling below my prediction, I’d thought they’d reached 300mil by now.

[thick arch]

Same was far of with my prediction. I should have based it on Superman post 2000 track record rather than gunns track record

[tame tangle]

so basicaly it wont be an extended universe because all projects will be disconnected.

[finite oracle]

That’s a oversimplification of it. They will be connected just not homework related to the point any outsider can engage with whatever narrative is out.

[tame tangle]

can you give me an example?

[craggy pawn]

No it will be a extended universe but the plot from the show won't have direct effect on the movies.. that's all. For example, we saw Rick Flag Sr in Creature commandos but we didn't need to watch CC for Superman.

[craggy pawn]

I mean...Wandavision was kinda of a must see for Doctor Strange multiverse of madness I think. Same goes for watching Ms marvel and WV before Marvels. A lot of people also felt they needed to watch shows before Thunderbolts but I don't think it was needed.

[unreal widget]

Well lanterns has guy

[craggy pawn]

Ya but I don't think he has a huge role in it

[unreal widget]

James said it's mainly his story so idk

[craggy pawn]

No he said.. it's mainly the story of John Stewart

[unreal widget]

Sorry i meant John

[craggy pawn]

Sure

[unreal widget]

what

[unreal widget]

Not sure but I think John will end up being one of the jl 7

[craggy pawn]

I think so as well. And I read that Gunn is a huge fan of John Stewart too.

[unreal widget]

So does it make lanterns a must viewing

[craggy pawn]

I don't think you would need to watch this show to understand what happens in next DCU movie.

[unreal widget]

To understand johns character?

[craggy pawn]

Again, if you require casual audience to watch shows before watching a movie then they won't watch a movie because that's like doing a homework.

[craggy pawn]

If you are interested sure but what I mean is that it is not a must watch to understand movies.

[unreal widget]

The audience might be unfamiliar with John?

Unlike the big 3

[craggy pawn]

They were also unfamiliar with Justice gang in Superman or Metamorpho..

[unreal widget]

Fair, but we expect character build of them in the future

[craggy pawn]

I also think if people love John in Justice league movie then they can go back and watch his show.

[unreal widget]

Cause like they might need to go back to it if this show introduces oa and the lanterns cosmic society too like the guardians.

[craggy pawn]

I doubt it

If people are interested sure but it is not a must watch imo

Rick flag Sr is in Superman and he is one of the main characters of Creature commandos but people didn't need to watch this show

[unreal widget]

Right