Superman

[loud swan]

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5950044/

[terse rain]

#TheGunnHasBeenLoaded

[steel ivy]

Second

🤞🏾🤞🏾

Based

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/superman-2025/

a sitting at 71 😭, was at 72 a min ago.

RT: 87
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_2025

oof it’s scores gonna drop prob by Friday

But still optimistic 🤞🏾

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Superman (2025)

Director: James Gunn
Runtime: 130 mins
Genres: Science Fiction, Adventure, Action
Stats: 6.87K • 26.33K • 3.17K

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[austere stream]

Thursday niiight

[steel ivy]

U seeing it then?

[terse rain]

it went up homie dw

[austere stream]

Yeeee

[steel ivy]

Imagine if the audience score is also massive, on IMDb, RT even with all the bs review bombing n shit that’s been happening to loads of divisive movies.

hopefully box office is huge too

I’ve already seen people furious about this movie. Funny enough it made the news from a certain ||news organization that claimed Superman cape had ms13 symbol on it… and also we’re trying to say the movie was bad for it being a movie that champions immigrants. ||

[terse rain]

#THEGUNNDOESNTJAM

https://tenor.com/view/james-gunn-superman-dcu-ceo-james-goon-gif-11379059257453283002

[terse rain]

#GUNNDONTSWITCH

[unreal widget]

Guys I have to say this is the hardest fucking review I have ever made. This is my honest opinion as someone who was moderately excited for the movie. No personal bias and I am not a snyder cultist. Just honest feelings.
My ★★★½ review of Superman on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/agsJCz

[thick arch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1lux3zg/superman_review_thread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Superman (2025)

Director: James Gunn
Runtime: 130 mins
Genres: Science Fiction, Adventure, Action
Rating: 3.83 (7.01K)
Stats: 11.52K • 26.03K • 5.22K

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[thick arch]

👀👀👀👀👀👀

3.83 from a DC project

[austere stream]

Im so excited

I feel like ima love this film

I havent not loved a Gunn CBM ive seen so

[austere stream]

We got that 3.9

[terse rain]

#TheGunnIsLoose

[unreal widget]

Guys I want this to soar in Sky's.

[steel ivy]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8hkTTFW/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8hkV1jD/

Do people forget that Superman…. Is not even from earth 🤦🏾‍♂️

Also whom created Superman

[austere stream]

This whole discourse is all dumb as fuck

[steel ivy]

I’m looking forward to the political commentary in the movie.

It’s fascinating how some overlook who created Superman and the symbolism behind him.

Def possible that many beloved older films would struggle if released in 2025 due to today’s heightened sensitivities.

it’s wild how treating people with basic decency and respect is now “woke”.

“We don’t go to the movie theatre to be lectured, or have film makers political ideology onto us”… 🤦🏾‍♂️

some of the most well received films are political… shoot even the biggest box office movies have some form of political messaging in them when not just viewed at a surface level.

[austere stream]

Also another update we are at 4.02/5 average

[steel ivy]

Yo it’s audience score on RT https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_2025

🤣

[austere stream]

I sent the wrong image

[steel ivy]

Snyder elitists gonna be having copium

[steel ivy]

4 /5 👁️👁️

Woah

[austere stream]

A 4.0 average on a DC FILM

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Superman (2025)

Director: James Gunn
Runtime: 130 mins
Genres: Science Fiction, Adventure, Action
Rating: 4.02 (25.56K)
Stats: 30.72K • 31.3K • 16.43K

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[austere stream]

My friends average rn across 8 people is 4.4/5

So yeah
People loving it

My friend who saw it last night gave it a 5/5

And our tastes often align

[steel ivy]

I’m jealous ur friend got to see so early

[austere stream]

Yeah, they saw it in the amazon prime early access

[unreal widget]

should i mention spoilers here?

ok

[steel ivy]

Add || spoilers ||

[austere stream]

Id ask you to wait till thursday maybe

Since most will see it then

Or spoiler bar

[unreal widget]

Guys glike do i add spoilers or the spoiler tag

[steel ivy]

Don’t the spoiler bar thingys work

[unreal widget]

don't?

The more i think about this film after my first review, i get more excited for the dcu. It took a while to process what i witnessed

||Guys that sequence when superman is saving an alien baby fighting those lex bots is the most chaotic superman action sequences I've scene. The layers of fear for if the baby will survive, and the wackiness of the pocket dimension is surreal comic film making
also will we get a resolution to the message from the El family?||

|| the spinning laser move is fucking CRAAAAZY ||

I didn't watch any material further than trailer 1 so Idk what is a spoiler technically.

|| anyone else notice the top gun esque intro||

This isn't a spoiler: the end credit scenes are not important at all, but the first one is a good shot.

keep an eye ||at the hall||

||so which peacemaker was that?||

[unreal widget]

||Looking back i expected a conversation between rick flag and superman as it was kind of hinted at by lex in the pocket dimension.||

[terse rain]

https://youtu.be/mO83fE6KzCE?si=KxqaG_YBbt8zMVza

Holy fuck the camera

It's so dynamic

Me when the camera does a full 180 as superman is getting spun like cake batter

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269629495663788032/1392230391217258646/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-ballon-dor.gif

[steel ivy]

GoG 3 with Adam was def practice

[terse rain]

The camera in GOTG 3 was nuts

[steel ivy]

Oh man… now people, YouTubers are claiming that critics were payed off to give positive reviews. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[austere stream]

............

This is...pathetic

Lmao

[steel ivy]

It’s wild to me… you’d think if this was the case, with alllllll the money DC and Marvel-Disney has we’d be seeing avg critic scores on RT and Metacrtic for most projects well above 70

[austere stream]

Lol yeah

Are these like...those crappy thumbnail grifter type people saying this shit?

[craggy pawn]

It's crazy that some people think that studios are gonna spend extra money on critics to write them goof reviews which is just nonsensical and there are hundreds of critics as well..

Some people wanna hate this movie so bad (esp Snyder cultists) that they will come up with any reason to say this movie actually isn't good and people shouldn't like it

[spice fable]

the humor bits I wasn't fond of, I like my comic books serious with a bit of humor, I did think it had a good last half

overall it is a fun movie though

[tame tangle]

williams theme or not?

[wind adder]

Will watch this tomorrow.

[unreal widget]

Guys if this is a spoilers forum why are people coming here without watching the movie

[unreal widget]

I don't like the use of the typical James Gunn random background song to end the movie. Would've preferred if it was solely the Superman theme

Makes the exit of the film feel more emotional

[unreal widget]

I honestly don't understand the point of putting out this clip it's ruining so much of the action.

[unreal widget]

||The hammer of boravia plot is exactly what you expect||

I don't get why they called this character ultraman. Because that's a different character.

[somber bane]

Oh I was smiling so widely throughout so much of that

[somber bane]

Suppose it’s the same concept of pouring your milk in the bowl before or after you pour in the cereal

[unreal widget]

After, before is criminal offense

[somber bane]

after as well but to each their own

[silent halo]

Oh we have a channel here

Alright so Ultraman sucked

Lex was not evil enough to be threatening and needed more fear mongering

Score kinda underwhelming

Lotta bits were good but a couple of them didn’t land

These are the negatives I have and it’s rounding up to a 4/5

@visual adder

[unreal widget]

Yeah I liked the battle between them but his story line was too predictable.

And its not ultraman

Unless the fact that he arrived on a different universe after getting sucked into the black hole

[silent halo]

it's ultraman

They call him Ultraman in the movie

[unreal widget]

But still it's more bizarro

[silent halo]

Yeah but that doesn't matter they call him Ultraman

Bizarro is a different concept

Bizarro has a kryptonian heart. This one doesn't

[unreal widget]

The characters supposed to be an evil version of Superman from an alternate earth. They did the reverse flash thing, where they made Barry the reverse flash, which I hated.

[silent halo]

It's not an alternate thing

It is quite literally explained that Lex cloned Superman

By using a strand of hair during one of his battles

[unreal widget]

Its supposed to be is what I'm saying

[silent halo]

What do you mean supposed to be when they're two different characters

They're similar characters with a similar purpose but Bizarro comics is a lot more distinct then Ultraman is in this film

Regardless they call him Ultraman

[unreal widget]

Yea and I don't like that creative choice

https://tenor.com/view/dc-ultraman-2521-yearn-youre-not-tough-earth-3-gif-2825478808225170686

[silent halo]

You can dislike the creative choice but that doesn't make the character less Ultraman

[unreal widget]

It can

[silent halo]

No lol

[unreal widget]

Yes lol

[silent halo]

This one isn't an alternative universe and is literally a clone

It's shown in the film

Directly explained in your face

Neither does he have a kryptonian heart

which is exclusive to Bizarro

[unreal widget]

He's supposed to.

[silent halo]

According to who

[unreal widget]

Me and the comics

[silent halo]

lmao so nobody

understood

If I hear from James Gunn it was supposed to be Bizarro I'll believe it but until then the film quite literally calls him Ultraman

[unreal widget]

Ok you're weird

[silent halo]

Sure m8

[unreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-2777893510283028272

[silent halo]

I'd trust the creative on the film what the intended choice for this character was

Rather then you

Regardless Ultraman wasn't good

[unreal widget]

I feel like they underplayed government interference to, hopefully exploring it in other movies

[somber bane]

what if we renamed superman to superguy

[somber bane]

yeah I had issues with lex myself

[unreal widget]

i liked the round table scene where lex was walking around them all confident influencing their thoughts with a smirk.

this is lex

there's a pacing issue. like the moment where he talks with his dad its. they needed some of the music

[rugged pier]

HOW IS IT BOYS?

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Superman (2025)

Director: James Gunn
Runtime: 130 mins
Genres: Science Fiction, Adventure, Action
Rating: 4.03 (67.5K)
Stats: 75.07K • 37.33K • 39.51K

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[steel ivy]

It increased from 4.02 yesterday to 4.03

It’s RT critic score is decreasing quite fast, it was 87 on Tuesday, it’s now 83

Audience score is 96

[rugged pier]

Oh

So it's mixed?

\

[steel ivy]

Metacrtic, critic score decreased from 72 to 70

[rugged pier]

Oh

Dang

Thats uh

Concerning....

Nothing horrible but

[steel ivy]

IMDb doesn’t have the stars listed yet.

[rugged pier]

I'll see for myself IG.

[steel ivy]

True, score wise it seems more “well received” then a large chunk of marvel movies in phase 5

it’ll be fun to see how it does box office wise

I see it this evening

[rugged pier]

How do you think it'll do?

I got max 700

Maybe 600 closing

Weekend should do 100

Minium 500 closing

Even if it does not do crazy numbers on the weekend, I think it'll at least get word of mouth and it'll sway some fence sitters

If the word of mouth is good. but so far that may not be as strong as it needs to be if people are saying it's a "fun time" / mid.

[visual adder]

sorry i never saw you @ me until now

[light sierra]

Its gonna be 600 minimum i think, maybe if the run is good, can touch 800

Anyway, where are u come from guys? And why u can see it early? I'm Indonesian, always 2 days earlier than global.

[steel ivy]

hmmm,

There budget is 225 million and there is a lot of eyes on the film, I’d assume from shareholders and other people high up at WB to see if Gunns creative vision can generate positive revenue.

Let’s look at gunns movies, and Superman movies (post 2000) and consider the multiplier between box office and budget.

Gunn has the following movies and multipliers based on budget and box office. *I will omit slither, super from consideration as these are extremely small budget and more “indie”.
I will also not include justice league as that is “avengers “ like movie not largely Superman focused. *

Bare in mind this isn’t super accurate estimate but more just trying to get a rough ball park, sample size of films is super small so take with grain of salt

Multiplier will be defined as,
Total box office = multiplier x budget.
(To calculate these just search up box office and budget)
Multipliers for Gunn:
GoG had a 4.5x
GoG2 had a 4.3x
SS had a 0.9x (covid )
GoG3 had a 3.4x

Superman IP post 2000:
Superman returns 1.92
Man of steel 2.97
BvS 3.49

Guns avg multiplier is 3.3x,
Superman is avg 2.8x

The standard deviation(range about avg):
Gunn: 1.67
Superman post 2000: 0.80

Coeff Variation (this tells us fluctuation):
Gunn 51%
Superman post 2000 29%

So if we go with
Gunn
3.3x (+/-) 1.67x

Superman
2.8x (+/-) 0.8x

If we take out SS (since it occurred during covid, straight to hbo release):
gunn:
avg multiplier - 4.09x
Standard deviation - 0.62x
Coeff variation - 15%
so 4.09x (+-) 0.62x…

So:
budget x avg multiplier
Gun + SS:
742 mill
Gun - SS:
920 mill
Modern Supermans:
628 mill

SD +- 1 (68% of outcomes)
Gun + SS:
367 mill– 1.12 bill
Gun - SS:
781 mill – 1.06 bill
Modern Supermans:
448 mill – 808 mill

**SD +-2 (95% of outcomes) **
Gun + SS:
*0– 1.49 bill (clipped)
Gun - SS:
641 mill – 1.2 bill
Modern Supermans:
268 mill – 988 mill

So id think that
781 mill – 1.06 bill
makes sense if flawless.

Could def see 740 mill or less if post covid impact, superhero fatigue, and anti woke marketing campaign against film is successful.

[unreal widget]

Is 250 a lot?

[steel ivy]

My bad I’d meant to say 225

[steel ivy]

the higher the budget the more money it’s gotta make to get a profit, I think ppl use a 1.5-1.7x as break even point, and 2.5x for being moderate “successful”

So, for Superman 2025:
budget: 225 mill
break even: 337.5 mill
“success” : 562.5 mill.

[unreal widget]

But is the budget constrained due to the state of DC rn?

[silent halo]

Its for sure gonna break even

Im guessing it’ll reach 700m+

[unreal widget]

Well ofc if 225 is the production budget, the overall break even point will be higher.

[steel ivy]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8hATvDM/

[sharp hearth]

https://youtu.be/Y0jpxXiUjO0?si=eZrkVnwQOtOWeB6N the goat has spoken

[unreal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-superman-2025-james-gunn's-superman-superman-laser-superman-laser-eyes-gif-13874140569257293313

[steel ivy]

Just got done with the movie.

[thick arch]

It was solid, I’ll post me review later after thinking a little more. But this is a nice base for new dcu.

Some brief thoughts, I thought action was nice, cgi looked cool instead of antman 3 slop. Fight choreography seriously is great.

Characters seem to embody what I liked about them from smallville and Superman and Louis, only issue is a 2h movie doesn’t give enough time for the character development (tbh I don’t think there was any? ) Superman and Louis and Smallville are both series which give time for character to have clear character arcs and develop through it . But for the time it does have it makes use of them well. Tho some characters seem kinda 1D though that isn’t to gunns fault, it’s clear he’s going for a more comic booky type adaption that is Modern.

Also liked the political commentary, lol imagine MaF now bans mentioning of Boravia and Jarhanpur

the commentary in the movie is so on the nose I’d think anyone not familiar with what it represents prob don’t watch or read world news.

[unreal widget]

What'd I think of the el family

[thick arch]

Superman’s parents? ||I’m not sure where gun is going with it. But I’m looking forward to it.

Idk if I buy that the tape wasn’t doctored… I mean shit it’s Lex Luther we are dealing with. And Lex is comically over the top evil in this movie. Him making up shit about Superman having a harem would be something this version of Lex would do, he feels that petty.

Also I don’t recall Clark hearing the second part of the tape when it wasn’t dubbed so it’s possible the second part of tape was falsely dubbed over by Lex and his crew. —Mr Terrific says that others have looked at the tape and it couldn’t have been doctored based on him trusting those people but again… the best way to confirm it would be to have Clark listen to the tape un-dubbed.||

[somber bane]

I think cause Clark isn’t contesting the first half, it’s not doctored

[thick arch]

Just remembered one thing I loved with this film, ||the “teasers” for other dcu movies are in the movie rather than post credit scenes||, ie ||supergirl|| ||Peacemaker s2||

Apparently w/ ||supergirl movie we’ll find out why she’s a “drunk” n shit|| and then there is ||the small peacemaker cameo 🧑🏾‍🍳||

movie is now at 69 critic on metacritic and 82 critic on RT. It’s audience score is a positive, though I have a feeling this movie is gonna have a big hate/switch up campaign on it.

[terse rain]

In the theater ready to watch!

[thick arch]

Im prob gonna see it one more time.

[terse rain]

#WillTheGunnMiss?

Lots of Supes fans in the theater with me

Looks like this is gonna be a crowd

[thick arch]

Oh nice, I watched mine earlier in the day, I bet it’d be sick to see it with people that are Superman fans, as I left theatre it seemed like more Superman man fans were coming in people where repping hella merch.

[austere stream]

Will be seated as soon as I get my drink

[stone turret]

the gunn did NOT JAM

that movie was fire

i have a loooooooot of thoughts

my instinct rating is 8/10

very very good movie with a few minor issues

mainly just some small pacing issues in the first act, but after the kaiju battle it finds its footing and is fine

i didnt find it too overcrowded or anything

i love how a major plot point of the movie is that women are obsessed with jimmy olsen lol

i frickin LOVE the twist of clark's parents sending him to earth to rule

it adds a super cool new element that i truly did not expect

of superman basically fully embracing his human side

i will say, i wish they gave this superman his own theme

[tame tangle]

Besides Modok, what was wrong with antman 3? Modok?

[thick arch]

Bad looking cgi slop everywhere, the overuse of the volume, the movies cgi looked bad to me. For me when you compare it to the cgi from earlier MCU movies it just don’t look right. It’s jarring

you can tell they are just acting in front of the volume in certain scenes it took me out

[stone turret]

i think this is about as good a start to the dcu as you could ask for

it had a lot of things it needed to do and i would say it did them well

[thick arch]

Yes I found that gag to be funny as well

[tame tangle]

i mean...can we access the quantumverse? no, so inevitably, wether you see it or not, you know they using it.

[thick arch]

It reminds me kinda of smallville

[stone turret]

i'm sure we were all so veeery surprised when gasp ultra man is a superman clone

[stone turret]

i know james gunn has said smallville was a huge influence on this movie

[thick arch]

I’m b real I had no idea ultra man was Superman clone

[stone turret]

oh i knew

[thick arch]

I was shocked, it was cool.

[stone turret]

it was the most popular fan theory

and hinted at throughout the movie

[thick arch]

You think he’s gonna be bizzaro?

[tame tangle]

i thought ultraman was supposed to be a variant.

[stone turret]

probably not, since he's dead

[thick arch]

I just figured ultraman was supposed to be a black noir meme

[stone turret]

i do like how because he was stupid he relied on lex telling him exactly what to do in order to beat superman

[thick arch]

I liked the talk off at the end ts was sick.

[stone turret]

krypto throwing lex around like the hulk with loki lol, that was funny

this really truly was a COMIC BOOK movie

[thick arch]

Lois was a huge standout for me

[stone turret]

lois was great

i love how the movie started with some brief witty exposition, the same way a comic book will often start with a few text boxes to catch the reader up to speed

[thick arch]

they didn’t make her annoying like she can be in smallville sometimes, she also is more conventionally attractive then Superman and Louis version but also feels very similar to that version in terms of writing. Where they don’t just write her to be a damsel 24/7 like smallville .

[stone turret]

there were a bunch of super small details i loved and noted, that im now blanking on

the only one i can remember rn is lex having a photo of mr handsome (his alien henchman) on his desk

i found that very amusing

lex having literal monkeys on keyboards spamming superman hate was very funny

[thick arch]

This felt like such a funny jab at certain fellows online who just keyboard spam hate

I loved it

[stone turret]

the random slo mo shot of lex's mug breaking

and then the moment his goons pick it all up for him he just slyly knocks it over again like a cat lol

another thing i liked was how superman and lois were so casual about a giant cosmic being attacking metropolis

realistically it would probably be a pretty common occurrence at this point

peacemaker cameo was fun, i think that got the most laughs out of my theater

and im obviously not surprised we saw supergirl

[thick arch]

S2 gonna be hype

Odd I’m surprised IMDb hasn’t dropped its ratings yet

Ain’t they usually up by now?

[stone turret]

definitely super excited for that!

[rugged pier]

US

[rugged pier]

Oh my....

God

You're like a human computer!

[rugged pier]

That's bars!

[sharp hearth]

Not much

Ant-man 3 isn't that bad

Better than Eternals, Black Widow, Thor 4, and The Marvels

[stone turret]

my guess has been in the 700m-900m range based in projections and charts of comparable movies

[terse rain]

Me after Superman

[austere stream]

I cant think of many problems I had really
Loved that whole film

That was a fucking epic

[austere stream]

Omg i love her already

[stone turret]

for me it was really just a few jarring scene changes but literally nothing that felt like it hurt the movie

i would have liked maybe 3-5 total minutes of like transition scenes

but that is a super small nitpick

the whole thing was just consistently very solid

[austere stream]

Ah
I didnt get any jarring feelings on my end tbh
Im so happy

Gunn cooked yet again

[stone turret]

he fr cooked

[austere stream]

@manic remnant

https://boxd.it/ai0emn

[rugged pier]

KARAMMAAA

I NEED THE NUMBBBERR

[austere stream]

I DONT RATE TILL THE NEXT CALENDER DAY NOW AAAA

Gimme like 3 hours

[rugged pier]

sob

😢

[austere stream]

||you can expect a 4.5 or 5 tho||

I really wanna do a ||Milly|| pfp but its way too soon lol
Gonna wait a few weeks

Or smth

[spice fable]

||she was gorgeous||

[austere stream]

Hell yeah, ||love her already||

[spice fable]

||I'm a huge fan of her. I stopped watching season 1 of the GOT show because they aged up the character and the "adult" actress wasn't as good!||

anyways, I do think Ultraman was probably Bizarro but they overdubbed him as Ultraman

meaning towards release

[mortal trout]

||what a spectacular movie superman is||

[austere stream]

hell yes

[sharp hearth]

I can't wait 3 days 😭

But I have to

[mortal trout]

i know what's winning best vfx now...

[primal locust]

Do we need to use spoiler tags in this chat

Or can I just ramble lol

[austere stream]

Id advise it for.now because some people who havent seen it still poke in

At least let the opening weekend end

I think

[bold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-superman-2025-james-gunn's-superman-superman-laser-superman-laser-eyes-gif-13874140569257293313

[primal locust]

What did everyone think of Jonathan and Martha here?

I think they are the most important characters to nail

It is necessary to believe that the most powerful man on the planet was raised right

The question of “why does Superman choose to be good” is answered in their performance

||and that final scene where Clark is looking at video footage!!!!!!!||

SO ADORABLE!!!!!!! I smiled so wide bc that is exactly why Superman is Superman

It’s what differentiates him from Homelander, brightburn, sentry, Ikaris, and Omni man

They weren’t raised by the Kents

I think Superman is a good argument for nurture vs nature

[mortal trout]

WHAT A FULL CIRCLE MOMENT, THIS MADE ME SMILE

[primal locust]

Honestly that’s my favorite scene

Or the scene where ||lois and clark argue in the apartment||

Or the scene where Superman ||saves a dog and squirrel ||

[mortal trout]

my favorite scene is when krypto ||beats lex to a pulp, SO FUNNY, SO AMAZING, AND SO WELL-DESERVED||

[primal locust]

Or the scene where Superman ||is so mindful of metamorpho’s baby while literally getting attacked||

I need to rewatch so bad

[agile fern]

ima be honest almost +80-90% of the movie idk its a lot count but many times in this movie i was just smiling

[primal locust]

Yes !!!!

[mortal trout]

||AND RIGHT BEFORE THAT SCENE WHEN SUPERMAN TELLS LEX THAT HE'S AS FLAWED A BEING AS ANY HUMAN BEING BUT HE KEEPS BEING GOOD-HEARTED DESPITE THAT IS SPECTACULAR!!!!!! CHEF'S KISS||

[primal locust]

I was just ecstatic to finally have a Superman who didn’t feel burdened by the fact he needed to help people lol

Like a Superman who doesn’t walk around begrudgingly?? Hell yeah!!!

[mortal trout]

i was thrilled, laughing with the movie when it wanted me to laugh, it was exciting, this is a new path forward for DC and i adore it. it's not marvel at all but much better.

[mortal trout]

HE'S SO GOOD-HEARTED AT LAST!!!!! NO MORE GRITTY SNYDERVERSE STUFF IN SIGHT, THANK GOD

[primal locust]

I’m going to be able to digest the Snyder stuff easier now knowing it’s not mainline Superman

[austere stream]

Yeah im exceptionally happy with this film

[primal locust]

Viewing him as an elseworld’s Superman makes it a lot more acceptable

Viewing Henry**

[mortal trout]

i view it as non-canon. elseworlds' supermen are superman and lois superman, and red son superman

[primal locust]

Superman is so unapologetically pure and corny here

[mortal trout]

and it never felt fake or schmaltzy or emotionally manipulative. it was all so genuine.

spielberg and marvel could never

[primal locust]

I actually would’ve loved a prime Spielberg to tackle Superman in the 90s

Cast Brendan Fraser as Superman

A character like Superman is honestly right up his alley

It’s a shame it never happened

Lots of spielberg’s sensibilities are in line with the spirit of the character

[mortal trout]

||I also love the scene where lex and and vasil ghurkos are interrogating superman in what could be viewed as the phantom zone prison and lex kills the innocent vendor, Malik Ali/Mali because that's when i knew that this movie was far and away better than anything marvel could churn out because my god WAS THAT SCENE SO DELICIOUSLY DARK AND DISTURBING AND CHILLING AND HEART-POUNDING, THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THIS MOVIE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL AND WOULD MAKE A BIG SPLASH IN MY HEART||

[mortal trout]

spielberg always read as emotionally manipulative to me. superman 2025 is the real deal

[primal locust]

He’s an earnest storyteller who combines heart and spectacle without having to sacrifice either

[mortal trout]

i suppose but i prefer this movie's approach a lot better

[primal locust]

This is a fake picture but imagine???

[thick arch]

I liked gunns take on them, they feel new, and having both of them alive at this point is also cool.

[stone turret]

he literally has a U on his chest

[mortal trout]

this would've been excellent back in the 90s

[spice fable]

||I didn't catch that, I know early word was that it was Bizarro||

[primal locust]

I also love that they’re alive. Superman not being born out of tragedy is very important imo

[stone turret]

it was always just a superman clone

[primal locust]

I think the mods wanted us to censor spoilers

[thick arch]

Yeah that scene was actually pretty sad, the dudes dialogue before he takes one to the dome was depresso.

[stone turret]

why

this is a spoiler channel

[primal locust]

That’s what they said man idk 😭

lol basically bc some people might accidentally pop in

[thick arch]

They just recommended adding spoiler tags is all.

[stone turret]

peacemaker and supergirl both make cameos, ultra man is a superman clone

[mortal trout]

it was so saddening and yet that's when I knew that this was a DC film because marvel could never

[spice fable]

I just spoiler marked mine

[mortal trout]

yes, yes, triple yes

[thick arch]

I think it’s more a courtesy thing not a hard rule tho

[stone turret]

there were lots of small children in my theater and throughout the movie more and more of them were ushered out of the theater by their parents 😭

[thick arch]

The vendor said he had no one 🪼👄🪼

[austere stream]

??

Why

Lol

[stone turret]

people are so used to marvel pg-13, which is just pg but they say shit a couple times

[mortal trout]

his name is Malik Ali. Mali. remember it.

[stone turret]

first time was when clark and lois made out, and then again when lex executed that guy

[primal locust]

They had ||a toy of Lex Luthor in his war suit|| so I was expecting him to show up like that

[spice fable]

I liked the throwbacks to superman 78 like Otis

[thick arch]

Fr? I’m surprised aside from the one death of the vendor this movie isn’t super violent .

[austere stream]

Weird

Marvel has kissing and violence too lol

[mortal trout]

happened at my screening too although there was a couple with a baby in the back row at my screening and they stayed during the entire film. made the scenes with metamorpho's son Joey all the more poignant imo

[austere stream]

To use the example

[mortal trout]

exactly.

[primal locust]

Who the hell takes their kids out of a theater for that

[stone turret]

parents are sensitive i guess

[primal locust]

😭😭😭

[thick arch]

Oh yeah lol, Jessica Jones, Eternals, DareDevil Born again, punisher, Luke cage

[stone turret]

guess they dont want their five year old kids seeing a man be executed for some reason....

cant even show executions to children anymore

[mortal trout]

the way it's bloodless and filmed from afar in superman 2025 tho meanwhile marvel has it often done in closeup albeit bloodless too

[stone turret]

because woke

[primal locust]

I guess audiences aren’t ready for this

[spice fable]

I liked it brought the action and epic scale as well as the smaller moments

[primal locust]

Also I’m calling it now

I’m calling it

Glen Powell will be the next Batman

[mortal trout]

will always love how Sara Sampaio (the actress who plays Eve Teschmacher in superman 2025) liked my tweet praising superman 2025 as seen here

[primal locust]

Book it

[stone turret]

LMAOOOOO absolutely not

[primal locust]

Take it to the bank

I’m screenshotting this

[stone turret]

you wanna bet money on it?

i'll make a bet with you and i promise i will hold my end of the deal

[primal locust]

LOL WAIT

Now wait a minute 😭

[thick arch]

Hell no!!!

[primal locust]

Hold on who do you think will be cast as Batman

[thick arch]

Alan Richenson has the build and charisma

[stone turret]

literally anyone other than glen powell lol

[primal locust]

Oh hell no

[thick arch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-lied-jack-reacher-alan-ritchson-reacher-i-didnt-tell-the-truth-gif-24764774

[stone turret]

he absolutely does, but i see him more as aquaman

[primal locust]

Alan is a meathead lol

[mortal trout]

hot take i love the way the justice gang is depicted in superman 2025 so much that we don't need batman and wonder woman

[thick arch]

^^^ see look at his build fam @primal locust

[primal locust]

Yeah this is certainly a hot take

[primal locust]

I think acting is more important than build

And Alan doesn’t have the chops imo

He’d be a great Shazam though

[stone turret]

guy gardner immediately switching his opinion on metamorpho because he likes the name justice gang was so funny

[primal locust]

Also glen powell is not who I want as Batman btw

[mortal trout]

like, i kinda love guy gardner green lantern, hawkgirl, and mr. terrific already. i don't see why we need to include batman and wonder woman. they'd seem superfluous.

[primal locust]

But he is Warner bros safest bet

[stone turret]

THAT WAS ANOTHER NOTE I HAD

[mortal trout]

if we're forced to have a batman, it should be charlie clapham

[thick arch]

His acting in reacher is fine

[primal locust]

I think of the candidates, he’s the most likely to be cast

[stone turret]

mr terrific getting the comic accurate white eyes when like monitoring the t spheres was so damn cool

i have seen people saying batman should have the same thing, where his eyes go white when he uses "detective mode"

i think that could absolutely work

[thick arch]

Bro Mr Terrfic here was fucking epic, I hated the cw version of the character on arrow.

he started of okay in arrow but then they made dude a corn ball

[stone turret]

mr terrific was absolutely a standout for me

he was so badass

[primal locust]

Did you guys hear what Corenswet said about Pattinson

[stone turret]

no

[primal locust]

It was a joke but it’s cool to see him acknowledge him

[austere stream]

Celeb drama yawn?

[primal locust]

Basically that Pattinson didn’t reach out to congratulate him lol

[stone turret]

pattinson is NOT the dcu batman and i will not hear otherwise

[primal locust]

It was a joke though

[stone turret]

it isnt happen

[stone turret]

why would he???

oh another note i just remembered

[primal locust]

Interviewer brought up who reached out etc

[stone turret]

in the movie one of the billboards was for "world's finest coffee" clearly a reference to world's finest

[primal locust]

Also Antony Starr (homelander) watched the movie

[thick arch]

It would be sick if he was. The contrast in color tones for the movie which integrates Superman and Batman could be cool to play with for whoever directs that film.

[primal locust]

Hell yeah

[stone turret]

their universes are way too different

seeing how comic accurate superman is

[primal locust]

Eh that’s what makes their dynamic so fun though

[thick arch]

That clash is what could be fun tho.

[stone turret]

i would want dcu batman to receive a similar treatment

[austere stream]

Pattinson batman is elseworld

[stone turret]

not at all

[austere stream]

Gunn already said theyre separate

[primal locust]

Pattinson Batman is MY world ♥️

[mortal trout]

good. they should stay separate

[thick arch]

We’ll see how long that sticks

[stone turret]

it sticks forever

[primal locust]

They’re def having convos

Not if I have anything to say about it!

I’ll simply call Gunn

[stone turret]

james gunn has acknowledged that they have discussed it but that dcu will have its own batman and he expects to see a script for it this year

[primal locust]

Drew Goddard is writing that script

I bet the house on it

I bet my life on it

[thick arch]

🤷🏾‍♂️ we won’t know till more details come out about the Batman and Superman movie when ever it happens or Batman brave or whatev it’s called.

[primal locust]

Gunn announced a bunch of writers working on projects within the DCU

[austere stream]

Brave and the bold

[primal locust]

Of those said writers, Goddard is the only one not attached to an announced project

[stone turret]

"we dont know" except james gunn has repeatedly confirmed it wont be pattinson as recently as like a week ago

[primal locust]

Very interesting indeed

Wait

Has anyone asked Pattinson if he wants to join? 😭😭😭

[thick arch]

right but things can always change can’t they, unless they’ve already locked in an actor

[mortal trout]

i really don't think we should have a dcu batman or dcu wonder woman period. this movie is so great and sets up a readymade justice league already that we don't need bats and wondy. let them remain in the past.

[stone turret]

i mean, i guess...? but you could say that about anything

[primal locust]

Yeah idk why it’s so crazy to believe that a well received live action Batman and a well received live action Superman won’t combine lol

[stone turret]

spider-man isnt in the dcu due to being a marvel character but "things can always change" right?

[thick arch]

Itd make bank

[primal locust]

I know Gunn, Reeves, Saffran said no but is no really no when money is involved? 👀

[thick arch]

Well Marvel X DC crossover movie isn’t as big of a leap now with Gunn driving the ship

[stone turret]

it is indeed a no

[mortal trout]

never gonna happen. wb keeping dc forever now.

[primal locust]

Guys let me dream

[stone turret]

IF pattinson did join the dcu it would have to be after his second movie releases, which will be late 2027 at the earliest

meaning we wouldnt see him in the dcu until at least 2028

[primal locust]

Look how well they complement each other

[thick arch]

If it’s got the potential to be stupidly profitable then maybe.

[stone turret]

thats just color grading

[primal locust]

Honestly, it’s more than likely going to be a routh and bale situation

[stone turret]

orange and blue are contrasting colors

i could color grade literally anyone orange and it would "complement" superman well

[mortal trout]

they really don't

why can't we just get a DC universe that doesn't have a batman and wonder woman?

[thick arch]

Color grading, the mannerisms of the characters, and drama you can have between the characters. It could be hella fun to play with. The contrast is what’s key.

[austere stream]

The future of the DCU is indeed very bright

[stone turret]

it is literally never going to happen

[primal locust]

They also have those collars 😛

[stone turret]

i would bet money on this

[austere stream]

I really hope Supergirl is great too

I trust Gillespie

[mortal trout]

also somehow nathan fillion as guy gardner green lantern is hot

[primal locust]

It will be

Oh wait

[stone turret]

i have no reason to believe it wont be, since gunn is personally approving every script before a single camera roles and superman is a clear indicator that his quality standards are high

[primal locust]

Do we think the message of Jor el wanting Clark to conquer was fake?

[stone turret]

"that haircut should be against your vows"

[stone turret]

it was real

[mortal trout]

no, it was real, that's the point. that superman goes against his programming

[stone turret]

it was very clearly real

[austere stream]

If anyone is gonna make me a DC fan its definitely gonna be Gunn
.i think Superman will be my second ever 5/5 for a DC film.

...the other is Gunn's Suicide Squad. Pattern?

[primal locust]

I like to believe brainiac messed with it

[thick arch]

True, tho the more movies we get to see under this leadership the better gauge we will have as to if this is just “talk” or action.

[primal locust]

So I guess Gunn is doing the nature vs nurture thing then

[stone turret]

superman spent his whole life doing good because he thought he was supposed to be, after finding out he was meant for evil he has a crisis of identity before pa helps him realize that he is good because of his actions, not because someone told him to be

[primal locust]

Nurture > nature

[mortal trout]

yes. but that's the perfect theme for supes

[mortal trout]

so is self-nurture too

[thick arch]

Seems like most people think it’s real, idk, it seems so but also Lex and his mfs coulda easily doctored ts, like this version of Lex is petty

[primal locust]

I’m so excited to see Corenswet lead a justice league

[stone turret]

mr terrific said its real. its real

[primal locust]

I honestly believe it was misconstrued. Brainiac definitely had something to do with it

[stone turret]

what

get off the meth dawg

[austere stream]

It being real is a big thematic element

[primal locust]

What’s so hard to believe that the smartest being in the universe could do that lol

[stone turret]

it being fake completely undermines the main theme of the movie

[austere stream]

And furthers the character building of Superman

[stone turret]

because its stupid?

[thick arch]

Mr Terrific argument for it being real seemed kinda cop out ish. He said it’s real because other “people” he viewed as smart said it’s real…

[stone turret]

the message was real

holy shit

it was made so clear that its real

thats the whole point

[thick arch]

Right this makes sense but still 🤷🏾‍♂️

[thick arch]

No need to get worked up amigo

[stone turret]

i am baffled by your lack of media literacy

[thick arch]

dawg what is ur problem

[primal locust]

It’s odd to be this mad about theories ngl lol

[thick arch]

Fr like wtf

[stone turret]

you literally missed the entire theme of the movie 😭

[thick arch]

no not at all 🤣

[stone turret]

this isnt even a theory, just blatantly ignoring information provided in the movie

[thick arch]

I never disagree with the theme of the movie… ??? Where did I say that 😆

[primal locust]

Bro we understand it’s a major thematic element and helps Superman build character but we’re also not sure it’s the end of that story

[stone turret]

guys i've got a theory that lex actually has hair

my theory is that he isnt bald

[primal locust]

I don’t see Gunn dropping that storyline

[mortal trout]

it's quite clear in the superman 2025 movie that Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van's message was real which is the point. to show how superman goes against the programming that his crappy conquest-loving biological parents set up for him. instead he not only self-nurtures into a more heroic, optimistic, and self-sacrificing and still flawed human despite being an alien from an otherwordly planet called Krypton but he is also nurtured by the environment of his emotionally stable, healthy, and positive adoptive parents, Martha and Jonathan Kent, THAT'S LITERALLY THE WHOLE POINT

[stone turret]

if the message is revealed to be fake, it literally undoes all of the character development from this movie and invalidates the entire message

it would be the worst narrative choice possible

i cannot believe these are real people who watch movies

[primal locust]

ya this just got weird…

[mortal trout]

it would be equivalent to james camerons showing an entire tribe of evil Na'Vi blue alien people in avatar 3 which would thereby undo the anti-colonialism messages of the previous 2 avatar movies, OH WAIT!!!! https://screenrant.com/avatar-3-navi-villain-plan-original-message-hurt/

[thick arch]

I can’t believe your actually upset over this

[stone turret]

i aint upset, just amazed

also you're*

[thick arch]

no need to be pretentious dawg what’s ur deal

[primal locust]

lol god forbid people want to see a plot thread elaborated on

[mortal trout]

luckily james gunn knows not to do that with superman 2025 so yes, jor el and lara's pro-conquest message stays real and awful and horrendous and THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT

[stone turret]

your "theory" is literally just "actually what if the entire message of the first movie and all of superman's growth as a character didnt really happen"

[stone turret]

it doesn't require elaboration

changing it or doing a twist would only hurt the story

this is why fans arent writers lol

[mortal trout]

it's a shit theory because it demonstrates a lack of basic media comprehension. how can you walk away from watching superman 2025 and think "maybe jor el and lara's message was fake, BLURGH" 🤪

[stone turret]

i completely agree

the entire point is that its real

that superman WAS sent to rule earth

[mortal trout]

again i point everyone to this #1392225868402921634 message

[stone turret]

but by being raised by humans he grew to become the best of mankind

if the message was fake, then superman never went against his destiny, he never turned against his heritage to embrace his humanity

his entire ending monologue meant nothing

the entire movie meant nothing

it would literally be a movie about nothing if the message was fake

[mortal trout]

and that's why the message stays real, it's again, literally the whole moral thesis statement of this movie #1392225868402921634 message

[stone turret]

the message being fake would be like if in spider-man far from home it was revealed tony stark was still alive randomly

[thick arch]

I don’t think @primal locust or I disagree with this.

[stone turret]

remember the original title was superman legacy

the entire movie is about superman battling with his kryptonian vs human identity

if the message is fake then there is no internal conflict

there is no struggle

its just plain shitty writing

[primal locust]

lol I don’t disagree with anything you guys are saying in terms of thematic elements. I’m just suggesting a FAN theory 😭😭 Jesus Christ lol

[stone turret]

its a really bad fan theory

[primal locust]

Bro it’s speculation. That’s why these movies are fun to talk about

[stone turret]

why would you suggest something that actively makes the movie worse?

[primal locust]

I’m suggesting something that could be interesting to explore in a sequel ie. elaboration on krypton and Braniac

[stone turret]

do you really think james gunn would undo the entire message of the movie?

it couldnt be interesting

[primal locust]

NO 😭

[stone turret]

it would only hurt the narrative

and wtf does brainiac have to do with this?

[primal locust]

Im just saying that it’s not far fetched to think that brainiac could be responsible for the footage

[stone turret]

yes it is????

[primal locust]

lol absolutely nothing my god 😭

[stone turret]

thats absurd

[primal locust]

Why is this making you so upset 😭😭

This is fr killing me rn 😭😭😭

[stone turret]

gunn has said repeatedly he isnt tryint to set up sequels with this movie

he wouldnt have a main plot thread actually be a lie created by a random character never mentioned before

[primal locust]

????? Are you really suggesting Superman’s not going to have a sequel my man lol

[stone turret]

obviously it is

but thinking that the thing that allows for the main message of the movie was a deception by someone we have never met is ridiculous

its "somehow palpatine has returned" levels of bad writing

"oh it was actually brainiac all along guys, dont mind the complete absence of actual setup and the fact that this undoes literally all of superman's character development"

you do understand how the message being fake would undo superman's character development, right?

[primal locust]

Damn bro can I borrow your Time Machine I didn’t know you watched the sequel

[mortal trout]

don't remind me of that dumpster fire

[mortal trout]

exactly, which is why the message is real, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, WHY ARE WE DEBATING THIS?

[primal locust]

Just bc you can’t think of an interesting way to extend the story doesn’t mean it can’t happen

[stone turret]

i think i might be debating a 12 year old boy in india

[primal locust]

Please never invest time into writing my brother 🙏

[primal locust]

You have a really weird obsession with India dude

[stone turret]

are you actually suggesting that your brainiac idea is "an interesting way to extend the story"

[primal locust]

What does that have to do with a fan theory about brainiac

[stone turret]

im meming a james gunn quote, calm down

[primal locust]

It’s just odd for you to keep falling back on a very weird comment trying to get a reaction lol

[stone turret]

what kind of reaction would i be trying to get?

[primal locust]

I’m not sure man but it’s just odd tbh

[stone turret]

youre so angry, just calm down

[primal locust]

Respectfully, bringing up a person’s race or ethnicity or culture is an odd deflection when talking comic books

No one is angry my brother lol

[stone turret]

i have no idea what race or ethnicity or culture you are and i obviously do not think that it would impact the validity of anything youre saying

[primal locust]

That’s fair but to constantly bring up that quote seems odd in relation to what we’re discussing

That’s all

No hard feelings. Just an acknowledgement lol

[stone turret]

"12 year old boy from india" is just a way james gunn described internet trolls and i thought it was funny

[stone turret]

i referenced it twice

not sure if thats "constantly" bringing it up

[primal locust]

lol we’re having an entire convo that is currently revolving around it

[terse rain]

The score for this movie was crazy

David Fleming's tracks

[stone turret]

my point was that im wasting my time trying to explain basic media literacy and storytelling to someone who's probably a child and has no effect on my life

[primal locust]

Like it’s unfortunate that we can’t discuss a very good Superman movie without getting hostile

[terse rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269629495663788032/1392230391217258646/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-ballon-dor.gif

[thick arch]

I don’t know if I agree with this portion, the crux is Lex Luther trying to brand Superman as an alien, people are still swayed to hate Superman as much as he does, Lex in this movie is egotistical asf right? If he doctored the second half how does that invalidate the ending monologue, how does it mean nothing? Supes is still spitting facts?

Saying the entire movie means nothing just because of that doesn’t seem to trek? There is a whole lot more to this movie than just the idea of Superman disobeying his “destiny” by his going against the directives of his family,— tbh that point was one I didn’t much care for.

You got pretty on the nose commentary on prominent issues, Superman trying to overcome a world that wants to see him fail.

[stone turret]

the score was so good fr, bro cooked

[terse rain]

Me when Look Up played

[stone turret]

the movie very clearly and blatantly shows the engineer finding the second half of the message

[thick arch]

Screaming media literacy to try and shut someone up is pretty stupid tbh

[terse rain]

This movie was so stylish

[stone turret]

its such good storytelling that lex didnt even have to make something up

[thick arch]

I’m with you

[stone turret]

while looking for a way to destroy superman he accidentally found a way to completely villainize him

[terse rain]

That part in the intro when the camera moved to his emblem and then the title came up had me like this

James Gunn used the fuck outta the camera in this movie

The visuals were so kinetic

[stone turret]

like yeah lex could falsify a message that says superman is evil, and we see him doing lots of similar plots, but the fact that his most effective strategy is one that came by complete accident is very satisfying from a narrative standpoint

[stone turret]

THAT WAS SO FIRE

[terse rain]

The way the camera was moving almost had me dizzy lmao

[thick arch]

Lex is still using able to manipulate the general public against supes if the second part is doctored or not?

[terse rain]

I wasn't used to that kinda movement it was crazy

[stone turret]

its not at all crazy to think lex would do something like faking the message, but the movie very clearly and explicitly states that he didnt

[thick arch]

That is fair, and not cliche fosho.

[terse rain]

The flying scenes were incredible

ALSO THEM USING A GUITAR IN THE SCORE

EVERY TIME A RIFF CAME IN

[stone turret]

lex's monkeys on computers was so funny

#SUPERSHIT

[terse rain]

ME WHEN THEY HIT THE SUPERMAN GUITAR RIFF AS HE'S KICKING THE SHIT OUTTA SOME BADDIES

[primal locust]

Anyone else surprised excited to see ||bizarro||

[stone turret]

you dont gotta spoiler tag bizarro

[mortal trout]

MUCH BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE

[mortal trout]

IN THE BEST WAY IMAGINABLE

[stone turret]

this movie was so score focused

only four songs credited

and two of them were credits songs

[mortal trout]

MUST BUY THE SUPERMAN 2025 SOUNDTRACK

[stone turret]

there was the mr terrific needle drop which was awesome and that's literally it

[terse rain]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-2-cheer-gif-14485870672234403889

[primal locust]

WHAT IS THIS

[terse rain]

There's no way that's real

[primal locust]

IT IS

IT UNFORTUNATELY IS YUCK

[terse rain]

Bro didn't watch the movie

[thick arch]

That is so ironic

[primal locust]

It’s literally something Lex Luthor would do lol

[thick arch]

If Trump actually watched he would not like 😆

[mortal trout]

oh great, real life lex luthor thinks he's the hero of this story again. 🙄

[terse rain]

Lex Luther had such generational hatred for Superman in this movie that he was spamming Injustice combos on him

D6 A5 S2 V8

[mortal trout]

that implies trump has basic media comprehension which he likely lacks

[thick arch]

Lmaoooo you weren’t lying

😆

Can’t wait to see what the boys writers do with that

[stone turret]

republicans watch star wars and think they are the resistance

[stone turret]

bro created and memorized thousands of combos over multiple years to kick superman's ass, absolutely insane devotion

[thick arch]

I think Lex was more modeled after Elon, Lex is smart. 🍊 lacks any understanding of STEM

[stone turret]

elon isnt smart lol

lex is evil and blinded by hatred but he is competent

i love how he admits at the end that he is entirely fueled by envy

[thick arch]

Def not a fan of Elon, but dude is definitely not an idiot. W/STEM He’s demonstrated solid systems level, and more than your avg fang software engineer. He’s had jobs at PayPal back in the day, creating zip2, his accomplishments at spaceX, Tesla… I mean shoot even open ai was co-founded by him, — while he may not be responsible for the boom in gpts, he’s got an eye for talent.

His spiral has been odd none the less, entertaining.

Much like Lex, who also gets smart people to work with him…etc. he’s making shit happen. not saying it’s necessarily “good” or “bad”.

[mortal trout]

you won't catch eyesore musk or trump displaying that kind of self-awareness

[stone turret]

thats fair, elon clearly has some technical level of intelligence? just fell down a weird alt right rabbit hole in the last few years

[thick arch]

|| I’m just hoping the rift between him and 🍊 deepens so they can screw eachother over ||

What did y’all think of the Boravia and Jarhanpur dialogue?

[unreal widget]

I kinda thought they'd show us Superman arriving just in time to save that kid

[thick arch]

Same, tho I liked the direction we got instead.

[unreal widget]

But it's a bold move to not have him saved and have the other members do it. I wonder if people will have a different perception of him

[thick arch]

First 1/4 had me regretting watching the trailers.

[unreal widget]

Ultraman plot, and I only watched the first trailer

Idk if this Ultraman ended up in an alternate universe through that wormhole.

https://tenor.com/view/superman-superman-2025-james-gunn's-superman-superman-laser-superman-laser-eyes-gif-13874140569257293313

[thick arch]

Oh interesting idea, I wonder if gun plans to expand on Boravia and Jarhanpur or they were just used for this film.

[thick arch]

was thinking that’s how gunn was gonna introduce bizarro, when he got sucked into the black hole. but idk, not sure what dc logic is with regards to super powered ppl surviving black holes 🤷🏾‍♂️. There are many threads in this film they play with in sequels... etc

[unreal widget]

Maybe in peacemaker or the authority

[thick arch]

Wats the latter?

[unreal widget]

A project

[thick arch]

Is that a group or a hero

the authority

[unreal widget]

Group

[mortal trout]

i hope so

[thick arch]

R they like the X-men of dc?

or Illuminati

I’m surprised IMDb hasn’t shown the ratings yet.

[unreal widget]

Can we discuss these

[tame tangle]

williams theme or not?

[terse rain]

It's the Williams theme but super sized and enhanced

[unreal widget]

Have you watched young justice

[unreal widget]

What did you guys think of Bradley Cooper as Jor El. For me it took some time to get used to

[terse rain]

Completely caught me by surprise

[spiral relic]

James Gunn is like that joke from the Simpsons. “Gunn did it again”

Overall good movie like a 8.1/10
(That’s a great achievement, because these day I question are movies even movies anymore)
If you ask me what was missing from the movie, I would say more emotions.

Lex from this movie did Lex Luther from Smallville justice.

Going to be a tuff one, trying to make every dc movie to this level

What’s funny: Anthony Carrigan, the guy from Barry was metamorpho

What was shocking: The guy from the magicians is Rachel Brosnahan (Lois Lane) husband?!

[craggy pawn]

Watched Superman and it was so much fun. DCU world created by Gunn is just so interesting with metahumans already existing for 3 centuries, this is a totally fantasy world. Performances were great all around, from David as Superman to Rachel as Lois, supporting casts were great too but I did wish some of them were more fleshed out. I absolutely didn't expect Mr. Terrific to be so good. Action scenes are amazing, some a bit chaotic at times, didn't have much problems with CGI except a few shots. I actually liked Krypto in this movie.

Lex is a great villian and man, he has quite a few tools under his disposal, like a pocket universe which was cool and Lex putting his ex girlfriends in that dimension was something i didnt expect. Ultra man being a clone of Superman made sense. The ending was fantastic with Lex now in prison and Superman redeemed. Btw, nice reveal for Supergirl too and Krypto is actually her dog.

Fantastic movie, really enjoyed this and can't wait to see more of DCU world.

[craggy pawn]

This was a fantastic scene

[spiral relic]

The only lex is considered the best lex was smallville lex until today

[unreal widget]

Yes those emotionally weighty moments

[spiral relic]

Si

[craggy pawn]

Haven't watched Small ville but this is my favourite Lex too

Like he wants to become a King literally

[unreal widget]

Like his dad has the most incredible dad voice and I think with a little more time and patience that dialogue scene could have been as epic as something like one of the more emotional scenes in guardians. There's a patience in gotg3 that allows rocket to express his emotions the right way and the audience feel it when accompanied by the music/silence. That kind of cinematic blend is something I would have liked James to involve more

[spiral relic]

https://tenor.com/view/amirlotan-donald-glover-troy-my-emotions-emotional-gif-19467109

[craggy pawn]

Loved Clark with his Dad and mom in this movie

[spiral relic]

I doubt fantastic 4 is going to be this good?

Just another marvel movie to watch, because they all connected.
To what, I don’t even 🤷

[thick arch]

https://boxd.it/ai8C1z

[thick arch]

What did you think of Superman and Louis version of Lex? While smallville Lex was one of my favorites, S&L version of Lex was menacing.

[craggy pawn]

It's gonna be very different but I think it is gonna be good.. I'm definitely watching it in theatres

[thick arch]

I’ve checked outta that movie. I saw the first and second trailers and have been trying to avoid looking at more. I strongly dislike the music direction the two trailers ive watched had, tho I think at the same time it gives f4 a unique vibe.

Then there is the casting of Pedro… idk if this is gonna work. I’m def open but oof… fellow is over-exposed. Also… not really sure how they will make galactus work, the version they have of him looks cool… I’ve got ptsd from fantastic four rise of silver surfer .

I have extremely low expectations.

[spiral relic]

You mean that cw show, I hated that they put Louis name with Superman, never watched it because of that disrespect, like she matters. 🫠
I liked the flash and legends of tomorrow, arrow was ok too.
I saw the crossover and the lex was played be the guy from ‘two men in a half’

That lex?

[spiral relic]

“It’s all connected”,
only reason I’m watching it.

That’s mainly the end scenes, so I probably wait till it’s on tv

[craggy pawn]

I'm watching because of the characters, also the villian..

[spiral relic]

Yeah, I also wanna know, how are they going to defeat that giant 😆

[thick arch]

Oh you missing out fam, it’s quite good. One of the better if not most cohesive arrowverse shows.

[thick arch]

Power of friendship🤣, some rumor I heard ,not sure if true or not, is that|| silver surfer and sue save the day? ||

[spiral relic]

Didn’t that show get cancelled in the third season, or was it because cw didn’t have the funds?

[thick arch]

Mix of covid, writers strike + Fund issue, they were given a chance to wrap it up in the 4th season which was surprising. The 4th season had quite the emotional series finale.

[unreal widget]

Did you catch the JSA hint

[spiral relic]

Wow I didn’t know

[unreal widget]

The top gun intro is so perfect. And the fortress feels much grander than the trailers

Love the fact that it turns, disappears and then re-appears.

Krypto such an asshole for not flying the guy back 😭

I also think this was the most acrobatic nature I've seen superman fight in for live action, mostly its just high-speed punches. State of light was a platform for him.

[spiral relic]

Remember what Superman said. He was raised by Supergirl.
Aso wasnt sg older than Clark?

[spiral relic]

I don’t understand. Repeat please. Maybe I’m just tired. I read this part when I go online tomorrow

[unreal widget]

Idk what the situation is here, but, Superman aged faster, due to Supergirl getting knocked off course into I think a dimensional rift.

But in krypton she was.

[spiral relic]

Oh I see

[unreal widget]

Something space something time

[unreal widget]

Idk what part to explain 😅

[spiral relic]

Na it’s cool, I read it again when I have my pot of coffee in the morning, then I reply back to you lol

[unreal widget]

The world building here is TAS level

Maybe to TAS'own fault Clark already felt like that grown superman by the time he arrived at metropolis.

While this version feels like he has a lot to learn.

But I do wanna see Corenswets interpretation mature into that stoich and strong willed nature.

In a way developing to that point will feel earned.

[covert flint]

bs movie

man of steel better

[unreal widget]

"Brain beats brawn every time"

[wind adder]

I Just watched Superman. David Corenswet, Rachel Brosnahan, Nicholas Hoult, and Edi Gathegi gave solid performances as Superman/Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, and Mister Terrific/Michael Holt respectively.

Corenswet’s performance was well done. He delivered a charismatic Superman, striking a balance between lightheartedness and seriousness when it was required in the story. It’s the best live action take on the character since Christopher Reeve’s iconic portrayal.

Hoult brought a sinister take on Lex Luthor. He portrayed Lex as a very malevolent man with no redeeming qualities, someone willing to do anything to achieve his goals. It’s a great direction in an age where many villains are made to seem sympathetic. His performance is the best one after Michael Rosenbaum and Gene Hackman’s live action versions.

Brosnahan’s Lois was amazing. She really nailed the spirit of the character. It felt like a live action version of DCAU Lois, and at times she even reminded me of Margot Kidder’s portrayal.

Gathegi’s Mister Terrific stood out among the other members of the Justice Gang. He played the character as a cool and stoic genius, the third smartest man on Earth, who uses his signature floating T-Spheres to analyse and fight his opponents.

Jonathan and Martha Kent were wholesome and the actors did well. One standout scene was between Clark and Pa Kent, where Jonathan talks about how our choices define us. He tells Clark that just because his biological parents were awful people doesn’t mean he has to be. He chooses to be good, and that’s what matters.

The action scenes were entertaining and the final fight against Ultraman was good. Ultraman is revealed to be Clark’s clone, created by Lex, but dumber and more ruthless, controlled by his minions. Maybe it’s possible he ends up being Bizzaro in the upcoming films. Krypto was also a fun addition.

Now, onto the issues.

One major problem I had was with the portrayal of Kryptonians. After Lex decodes the full message from Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van, it’s revealed that the Kryptonians were a conquering race. They wanted their son to rule over humanity, seeing humans as weak and to impregnate as many women as possible to ensure the survival of their species. This felt off from the lore. Reviewers praised the movie for its comic accuracy, but this change was the equivalent of Jonathan Kent’s infamous death scene in MOS, which was controversial to say the least. According to Terrific, the message wasn’t even doctored, which made things worse. It reduced Superman’s origin to something closer to the Saiyans from Dragon Ball or the Viltrumites from Invincible. It’s a classic sci-fi trope, where the aliens are portrayed as bad guys.

The Justice Gang didn’t feel necessary. Their inclusion made the film feel bloated for what was supposed to be a solo Superman movie. Mr Terrific was more than enough. In fact, he felt somewhat underused despite his capabilities. The final battle between Clark vs Engineer and Ultraman should’ve been cut down. It would’ve been great to see Terrific handle Engineer on his own with his ingenuity.

The camerawork was inconsistent, shoddy and unpolished at times. Otherwise the film looked fine. The score however was forgettable. It felt pale in comparison to Williams’ legendary theme in Superman or Zimmers powerful score in Man of Steel.

Gunn’s decision to nerf Superman’s power was also questionable. You don’t need to weaken a godlike character to humanise him. The comics, the Donner films, and the animated adaptations have always balanced his overwhelming power and humanity.

Overall, this was a decent flick. I give it a 3/5, which was the same rating I gave Gunn’s previous superhero films, like the GOTG trilogy.

I liked the ending, where Clark reminisces about his memories with his adoptive parents. The post credit scene had an interesting cameo in which Supergirl was drunk while trying to get her dog, Krypto. I’ve seen people criticise this portrayal, but in Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, she is shown to be drunk, and that’s the comic they’re adapting.

Another issue I forgot to mention is the overdone humour during serious situations. It’s typical Gunn, so I’m not surprised this was a problem in the film.

[wind adder]

https://fxtwitter.com/culturecrave/status/1943615560832422271?s=46&t=_AWFhpIAIwbUeGd6RdGh0A

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

Reported salaries for the #Superman cast
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︀︀• David Corenswet — $750K
︀︀• Rachel Brosnahan — $750K
︀︀• Nicholas Hoult — $2M
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︀︀All three are in line for box office bonuses if the film performs
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[rustic yacht]

Lots to like lots to dislike

[austere stream]

I honestly surprised myself by not really disliking anything here

[craggy pawn]

I don't have much complaints here, maybe the movie should have been a bit longer to flesh out other supporting characters from Daily planet and also show more Clark Kent.. but this is just a nitpick. Loved the movie overall.

[craggy pawn]

I thought Justice gang played a good role but the role wasn't that huge imo, Mr. Terrific was great.

I don't get why you think Superman was nerfed?? Like yes he couldn't destroy planets and stuff but he could get out of Black hole by his mere breath.. took out those raptors and I also think that because superman believes every life is valuable, he isn't using his powers at his full extent.

Also.. if Superman is this god like figure who can destroy anything he touches.. its not gonna be a easy story to write. Superman is the strongest metahuman on Earth.

[stone turret]

yeah literally my only criticism is that i wish the movie was like 5 minutes longer but thats it

[craggy pawn]

I wish it was more than 10 minutes or more

[wind adder]

Superman struggled against all his enemies and was beaten up badly. He was nerfed.

He also stated that he wouldn’t able to get out of the black hole iirc.

[thick arch]

I think a reason for that is it makes the character easier to feel for? If not Superman seems more like a “god”/OP

[wind adder]

Gunn also confirmed this in the interview that he wanted to nerf the character to humanise him. I think that wasn’t required because it’s possible to do both.

We’ve seen this in earlier adaptations. Even in the DCAU, he wasn’t nerfed that badly aside from Justice League Season 1. That’s something they need to fix.

[wind adder]

I don’t think nerfing a character makes them more relatable or humanises them. Especially a character like Superman.

It hasn’t been an issue before.

[craggy pawn]

Again.. it wasn't all his enemies.. it was his own clone and also The engineer plus very important to remember that Luther had studied 3 years on how to beat Superman and was guiding Ultra man to beat Superman.. Once that help was taken away, Superman beat Ultra man.

Plus once again, Superman isn't using his full strength imo because he doesn't want to kill anybody.. not even a kaiju monster.

[wind adder]

Superman doesn’t need full strength to handle these characters.

He never goes full power.

The Ultraman fight makes sense, but the one with Engineer and Kaiju doesn’t

[craggy pawn]

Again.. you can't make Superman a god like character where he can destroy planets alright.. even Cavill Superman wasn't that powerful.

[wind adder]

The Justice Gang stopped the Kaiju tbh. Superman alone could’ve stopped the threat, if he wasn’t nerfed.

[wind adder]

Did I say he should destroy planets?

[craggy pawn]

He would have defeated Engineer if he fought her alone

[craggy pawn]

Superman didn't wanna kill the kaiju and he was busy saving others too.. Superman would have absolutely defeated the kaiju, he didn't even use heat beam

[wind adder]

Reeve, Welling and Cavill Superman were definitely portrayed to be powerful. I know many don’t like the latter, but the other two were pretty OP.

[wind adder]

Superman doesn’t need to kill or use full power to handle a baby Kaiju threat. He struggled, which is why the Justice Gang finished the job. Hell, even Mr Terrific was not impressed.

[craggy pawn]

That wasn't baby kaiju come on.. also both Green lantern and hawk girl were struggling as well

[wind adder]

The point is Superman could’ve done the job, instead of relying on Justice Gang.

[craggy pawn]

Mr terrific was not impressed with Superman because Superman wanted to save the kaiju which for Mr terrific was ridiculous

[craggy pawn]

He was working on it and Justice gang helped.. he would have defeated kaiju eventually and he was also focusing on saving everyone else along with fighting kaiju.. he wasn't 100% concentrated on just fighting kaijus

[wind adder]

“Eventually”

This is just head canon.

We also see this Superman struggle to lift a skyscraper.

[craggy pawn]

If this was a Superman that didn't care about saving every life.. then he could have just went inside mouth of that kaiju and killed him from inside..

Again.. he wanted to save the kaiju

[craggy pawn]

So?? Cavill Superman also struggled to lift stuff in man of steel

[wind adder]

I don’t think he did, neither did Reeve or Welling. They were portrayed Godlike

[craggy pawn]

Cavill Superman struggled to lift a oil tanker.. and plus Cavill Superman wasn't interested in saving every life and hence a lot of skyscrapers just fell unlike this Superman

[wind adder]

We also see Cavill Superman lift a building in Justice League

[craggy pawn]

Also important to remember that Gunn is a Superman comic books fan and when Superman was first created in 1938, he couldn't even fly and in many comics he wasn't this all powerful superhero.. later comics did make him very powerful and also the movies.. Gunn is going back to the roots.

Even the hypno glasses is taken from the comics.

[wind adder]

There’s another scene iirc where he moves a ship in BvS. Reeve Superman does better against Zod and his minions.

Whereas, Corenman struggled a lot against Ultraman. I think he’s nerfed a lot, which even Gunn confirms.

[craggy pawn]

Again for me.. Gunn's Superman wasn't nerfed.. he's still the strongest superhuman in DCU, he's holding back a lot of times because he doesn't want to kill anybody

[craggy pawn]

Ultraman was a literal clone and he was helped a lot by Luther with his moves.. if it was Superman vs ultra man one on one.. Superman would have beaten Ultraman more easily

[wind adder]

Superman always holds back. Even in DCAU, where the character was nerfed, he wasn’t this weakly portrayed.

[wind adder]

The final battle was a one on one, after Engineer was fucked up. Superman had to outwit Ultraman in order to beat him.

Hence the “Brains over brawn” comment

Anyways, let’s agree to disagree.

[craggy pawn]

Ultraman is basically a Superman clone though with similar powers to his.

But ya let's agree to disagree on this

[thick arch]

By the end Welling was much more op, but for s1-s6 dude was have issues with case of the week “meteor freaks”

[wind adder]

S1 Welling alone probably beats this version lol

There’s even a scene in this movie, where Superman lays down like Yamcha from DB.

Gunn didn’t want to portray him all that powerful because he thought it’s boring. He also mentioned why he prefers Batman for this reason

[craggy pawn]

I'm glad Gunn didn't make Superman all powerful

[wind adder]

Corenswet’s Superman in terms of performance is only below Christopher Reeve, which I’ve mentioned in my review. Only issue with this Superman is that he’s somewhat weak.

Considering how some reviewers were praising the comic accuracy of the movie, I find it odd he nerfed him. The Kryptonian heritage aspect is also a significant issue, which is weird lore wise.

[craggy pawn]

Well, when Superman was first created in 1938.. he couldn't even fly, so he wasn't this all powerful superhero in the beginning

[wind adder]

Gunn wasn’t adapting early Golden Age era Superman. I don’t know why you bring that up

By the end of GA era, Superman was incredibly powerful.

[craggy pawn]

Gunn wasn't adapting any one particular comic.. he took a inspiration from a lot of comics

My only point is that Superman wasn't always portrayed as all powerful in the comics.. he was even killed at one point and Gunn took inspiration from many comics.

Again, personally I don't even think Superman was that nerfed in this movie.

[wind adder]

Okay, but your point doesn’t make sense. Superman can fly, use heat vision, freeze breath, X-ray vision, etc in this film. His 1930s power level is irrelevant and from the looks of it, Gunn was influenced more by later works than the Golden Age period.

[craggy pawn]

I personally don't think Superman was even nerfed but if even if you think he was, then my point was that he wasn't very powerful in early comic book runs..

BTW.. Superman killed those raptors quite easily.. doesn't look like someone who was nerfed and weak

[wind adder]

What were some of the other things you felt you needed to explain to make this Superman work?
There are things that I know I don’t explain that I don’t even want to say out loud! But I wanted Superman to be vulnerable. I see the online things “Who would beat whom?” — Homelander or Superman or fucking whatever, Adam Warlock or Brightburn, and I’m like, “This is the fucking stupidest fucking conversation.” Like, so then whoever would win this fight means that they’re the best? Because I’ll just go out and write God Man, who can destroy you with a wink. And I win. I win all the fights forever. But I didn’t want a Superman who could punch planets. And also we’re creating a whole universe now, so what’s a girl with wings gonna do in the face of that? So he’s a little less powerful. [Green Lantern] Guy Gardner’s pretty fucking powerful. They’re all pretty powerful.

This is what Gunn said in the interview

[safe geode]

https://boxd.it/ai3Ks9

enjoyed , but man does Gunn not like women?

[safe geode]

superman prime, and this supe is still young, after being under a yellow sun for like 30+ years is nigh unbeatable

[rustic yacht]

I like the human moments

It’s a shame they’re few and far between

[safe geode]

I like that it showed he can get beat up, but it literally took a another superman to beat him

and he still beat that one

[wind adder]

What did you think about the movie?

[safe geode]

the interview scene in the first 20 min was actually compelling

[rustic yacht]

I like it

But that’s about it unfortunately

[wind adder]

What’s your rating?

[thick arch]

Wym?

[safe geode]

this is the most human superman for sure

[rustic yacht]

6

[safe geode]

the cgi dog had better writing than any of the women in this movie

[wind adder]

Same. It was decent

[rustic yacht]

Its being presented as a human story but instead of focusing on humans we’re in a pocket dimension fighting 3 villains and the world is being split in half

It’s quite contrasting in its messaging and actual events

But I love the politically charged nature of it

[safe geode]

this movie does not pass the bechdel test

[wind adder]

Tbh I didn’t care about the politics.

[rustic yacht]

I think that’s the best part

[thick arch]

Louis was decent, I found that most characters in the movie felt 1D but where good in being true to character

[rustic yacht]

Superman is the perfect character for a politically charged story

[safe geode]

then i'd say that yea, it was focused more on driving the story than as much character driven

[rustic yacht]

And that’s done quite well

[safe geode]

except jimmy

hes fully fleshed out lol

[rustic yacht]

The core of the story is clearly supposed to represent a current world event that we cant talk about in here

[unreal widget]

What did you think about the el controversy is that gonna be resolved

[wind adder]

I didn’t expect Lex to outright kill that dude Mali.

[safe geode]

Jarhanapurians lmao

[rustic yacht]

Anyone with two eyes knows what it’s supposed to represent

[thick arch]

Issue for me is other than justice gang do any characters get character development?

[safe geode]

it was a savage, and some things in this movie were a bit savage

[safe geode]

not really, superman started and ended the movie the same

lex too

[thick arch]

Exactly

[safe geode]

james gunn dropped us in this world said LOOK AT IT

[rustic yacht]

I will argue I think Lex is a character that shouldn’t change

But it’s true for the rest of them

[safe geode]

none should ,technically

[rustic yacht]

Well

[safe geode]

kara hopefully

[rustic yacht]

Lois and Clark’s relationship could’ve gone literally anywhere

More than 2 scenes could help that

[safe geode]

they had a 10 minute ethics arguuement on geopolitics in the first 20min

[wind adder]

Like Hawkgirl dropping Boravian leader. She said she ain’t like Superman.

[thick arch]

Smallville was fun getting to see the changes in Lex but him slowly revert to the villain, a similar thing happens in Superman and Louis, where Lex is so evil but wants to be good father to his daughter but fails.

[rustic yacht]

That’s my favourite scene

[thick arch]

Likewise

[safe geode]

that the honestly, outright murder of monsters and Mali

but like Guy gardner

[safe geode]

yea i needed one more of those near the end

[rustic yacht]

That’s why I think the messaging is not translated very well

[wind adder]

That Mr Terrific scene is cool as shit.

[rustic yacht]

The argument is that Superman is human but we only really see him do magical stuff

Fighting in a pocket dimension and saving the world from tearing against an evil clone

Not enough Lois and Clark romance, not much Daily Planet, not enough with his parents

The ending with his growing up moments is great but doesn’t feel very earned when they’re barely in it

[wind adder]

I guess the film long could’ve been longer

[blazing vigil]

https://boxd.it/aihUFF movie owned

[rustic yacht]

I think time should’ve just been spent elsewhere

Get rid of Ultraman and the pocket dimension and you have like 40 minutes there

[blazing vigil]

Love how they made it out that Superman is his own man, and not someone that is lead by his parents.

[safe geode]

that he is a hero is inherent, but he means he's just another person as anyone else living on earth and hes just trying to do his best with what he was given

[rustic yacht]

I completely got that but we dont see a lot of him doing that stuff

[safe geode]

if the world throws him an earth ripping dimesion tear, he will like anyone with the power to do so, could try their best

[safe geode]

I wish he was more vocal about his distaste in how they treated the monster

[rustic yacht]

All of the stuff is there but it’s not very explored

[wind adder]

The Ultraman bit was definitely inspired by The Boys. Even even the outfit resembled Black Noir’s.

[safe geode]

but like a human, he tried his best at what he could, which is protecting everyone else from getting crushed by the monster while messier heroes take the monster down

[wind adder]

DCU Superman is basically Brightburn all grown up, if he was good.

[mortal trout]

it was done better here than in the boys show

[mortal trout]

kinda of , yeah

[blazing vigil]

Oh no Mando didn’t like movie :(

[safe geode]

they def went away from the comics

where as atleast we got a one-off Bizarro

[rustic yacht]

I did like it

Just wanted more from it

[wind adder]

Black Noir in The Boys show is much better than the one from comics. The ending was a cop out in the comics.

[thick arch]

def by no means perfect superhero movie, buts it’s great base to build gunns dcu on

[wind adder]

I like that it wasn’t a clone of Homelander.

[safe geode]

i think I got my fill personally, cool flying and fighting scenes, fuck yea krypto, supergirl, alan tudyk robot, Lex being a crazy xenophobe

I hope Mercy is in the next movie

[mortal trout]

i prefer this approach than in the boys

[wind adder]

Pa and Ma Kent felt pretty real.

[rustic yacht]

I’m glad it works for a lot of people, all depends what you want out of it

[thick arch]

Wish there was more of them

[rustic yacht]

If you’re just going for a good punch about you’ll love it innit and that’s great

[mortal trout]

i felt it worked somewhat in the comics but there were other parts of the boys comics i preferred

[safe geode]

they felt ultra grounded, not Kevin Costner tornado parent

[thick arch]

what did yall think of the non orchestral track usage, for example during scene with Mr Terrific? Did that bother anyone

[rustic yacht]

Fun scene

[safe geode]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-season3-black-noir-soldier-boy-finish-what-you-started-bring-back-noir-gif-26164929

[mortal trout]

i loved it. it did seem a little gotg but also its own thing

[rustic yacht]

The score was unremarkable

But I expected that when they hired a nobody to quickly come and fix it

[safe geode]

the Mr Terrific "NOT AT ALL YONDU Whitslting Arrow" Scene was interesting

[wind adder]

Also, Corenswet’s Superman was also pretty serious when required. More angry than Christopher Reeve version. Snyder fanboys online were criticising how campy this Superman was lol.

They didn’t watch the movie

[safe geode]

I like an angry superman

[thick arch]

I felt that specific scene music choice seemed kinda to much gog rather than other orchestral tracks that were used. It also took me outa the scene, which is a cool scene.

[mortal trout]

i liked it

[rustic yacht]

Is fine

[craggy pawn]

What el controversy?

[safe geode]

score was unremarkable imo

[mortal trout]

he wasn't campy at all. if anything he felt more genuine than the cavil version

[safe geode]

bog standard superman score

[unreal widget]

Well the message

[thick arch]

I liked the orchestral tracks and the end credits music.

[rustic yacht]

They replaced the composer like 3 months ago to come in and redo it all

[mortal trout]

i loved it. can't wait to download the soundtrack

[rustic yacht]

So think even they know it’s quite weak

[unreal widget]

Of being sent to rule

[mortal trout]

good

[rustic yacht]

But it’s fine

[thick arch]

I think they referring el lore being changed

[wind adder]

That was horrible. Worst part about the film and it wasn’t even doctored.

[mortal trout]

it was not horrible

[wind adder]

Unless, they can explain this in the upcoming movies.

[mortal trout]

it was one of the most perfect messages i've seen in the film

[unreal widget]

Was I asking u

[wind adder]

It was. Kryptonians are no conquerors.

[rustic yacht]

They’re vultrimites

[safe geode]

open forum bub

[craggy pawn]

I mean.. that made sense for the movie because it shows that superman chose to do good things himself even if he was sent to rule

[safe geode]

whole damn point

[wind adder]

Jor-El has the same views as Zod.

[safe geode]

yuppp

[rustic yacht]

And Omni Man

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-9760249938255555903

[safe geode]

just cause hes in the "science division" doesnt mean he doesnt want to prop up his race

[wind adder]

They overdid with the harem part💀

[thick arch]

I had felt like there was enough ambiguity, that we could say it may be doctored, Lex is manipulating many things in the film, bolvaria…etc. him having it modified then showing only the dub is sus…

[craggy pawn]

Don't know how many watch Invincible but I mean, maybe this DCU Krypton is kinda like Viltrum..

[thick arch]

It felt so over the top like something petty Lex would say.

[rustic yacht]

https://x.com/filmupdates/status/1943630642496827676

Film Updates (@FilmUpdates)

Nicholas Hoult was paid $2M to play Lex Luthor in #Superman, making him the highest-paid cast member.

David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan each earned $750K, with additional bonuses tied to the film’s box office success.

(https://t.co/IkekaqhhFb)

X · Jul 11, 2025, 11:17 AM

[mortal trout]

i'll leave you with this #1392225868402921634 message

[safe geode]

i mean, in relation to how todays social media is used, there are people who literally think there are pedo rings under Pizza Huts

the monkeys being online trolls was crazy

[wind adder]

Lex also locked up his ex girlfriends in the pocket dimension iirc.

[thick arch]

Also Mr Teriffic sayings it’s real because he trusts the scientists that work for Lex that analyzed it… 🤷🏾‍♂️

[rustic yacht]

This movie feels a bit like a sequel to a first movie that doesn’t exist

[unreal widget]

Yeah I'm conflicted on that cause on one hand it sacrifices the el reputation to increase the value of the Kent family on Superman. Maybe I would have preferred both families to be equally involved in building the character.

[safe geode]

In the DC Universe, Mister Terrific is generally considered the third smartest human. He is often placed behind Lex Luthor and Batman in terms of raw intelligence.

[wind adder]

Well, he’s the third smartest man

[mortal trout]

not really. the title cards at the beginning explained the lore

[thick arch]

Right but even if doctored the message remains the same, Lex is trying to de-humanize Clark, much like those that dislike illegals do

[wind adder]

Yeah, but Terrific thinks he’s the smartest.

[rustic yacht]

Lots of telling and not showing

[safe geode]

not with that garage door he cant

[craggy pawn]

Absolutely.. Lex calls superman it