🎥 Deadpool & Wolverine

[earnest raptor]

I’m happy for you

[bold canopy]

See I'd usually say "you're allowed to think that" but then you made the mistake of listing the reasons you liked Deadpool 1 and 2 so much. Most of which were things done just as well if not better in Deadpool and Wolverine. And its curious to me you liked Deadpool 1 and 2 more but are so critical of Deadpool and Wolverine. Funny I didn't seen this level of extreme criticism towards those films which are both also incredibly flawed movies in their own right. Yet here you are throwing all these complaints at the first MCU Deadpool movie

which leads me to believe you went into this movie wanting to hate it because its MCU related

[earnest raptor]

Which reasons for me liking Deadpool 2 did you think were done better in D&W?

[bold canopy]

because I could easily levy the same criticisms you listed for this movie towards the first 2 deadpool films just as easily

[earnest raptor]

Deadpool, Domino, Cable and the gang have much better chemistry than Reynolds and Jackman

Who surprisingly don’t have much

[bold canopy]

I think this is easily the best written deadpool and wolverine. It's the funniest. The best acted.

[bold canopy]

Yeah you can think that

[earnest raptor]

No you couldn’t because Deadpool 2 was shot by a talented filmmaker with an established eye for choreography, set across a variety of different locations with their own visual style, and it has a much cleaner three act script with a much bigger heart

Deadpool’s sacrifice at the end of 2 is a lot more earned than in 3

[bold canopy]

but you know its weird cause again I get the feeling that you are only levying these remarks towards Deadpool and Wolverine entirely because its connected to the MCU

[earnest raptor]

Cos the kid is in the movie throughout

Rather than just “you have to die now for plot”

[earnest raptor]

You’re very weird

As I’ve already said, I like quite a few MCU movies

Have you forgotten that?

[bold canopy]

You must be new to this server. Because you see a lot of insane remarks thrown at the MCU that said people would never throw at other films

so forgive me if I'm not a little skepticle when I see people come in here to complain about the movie then flex their epic amazing list of movies they've watched as proof other peoples opinions aren't valid

[earnest raptor]

I don’t

Cos you’ve been very rude lol

[bronze hawk]

Lol if you knew a thing about screenwriting, you would argue it's OBJECTIVELY the weakest of the three

[earnest raptor]

And immature

[bold canopy]

I'm literally a professional writer. I write for a living

[bronze hawk]

I'm sure you do

[bold canopy]

lmao

[bronze hawk]

I'm Aaron Sorkin

[bold canopy]

you don't want to go down that road buddy you'll look real stupid

[bronze hawk]

Do you have an agent or a manager

[solemn wasp]

What if I said Doctor Strange 2 is the best MCU 😁

[bold canopy]

I write for video games as a living

[bronze hawk]

Lmao

[earnest raptor]

It’s the best one post-Endgame

[bronze hawk]

Screenwriting

[bold canopy]

yes I said I was a writer

[bronze hawk]

is not equal to video game writing

[earnest raptor]

Any we’d know?

[bronze hawk]

come on now

[bronze hawk]

The Last of Us

[solemn wasp]

Sam Raimi genius 😎

[earnest raptor]

Completely

[bold canopy]

no writing is still very much writing. You aren't about to try and discredit me for writing for video games and not movies lmfao

[earnest raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-stephen-strange-wanda-illuminati-gif-26022882

[solemn wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-scarlet-witch-scary-joint-disjointed-gif-26021375

[bronze hawk]

I'm about to discredit you for clearly not knowing much about screenwriting

[random token]

i liked deadpool & wolverine. i will not elaborate. good day.

[bronze hawk]

And I'd be singing the same tune if you wrote novels for a living

[earnest raptor]

I like how even the colour grade of New York immediately goes back to his Spider-Man films lol

[solemn wasp]

Maestro 😎

[bold canopy]

So to just shut down whatever snobbish remark I'm sure I'm about to see you type. I liked the movie, sorry you can't have fun, sorry you feel that way, and have a good day

[earnest raptor]

I forgive you

[bold canopy]

I'm going back to watching the movie I was watching

have fun

[bronze hawk]

I'm not about to type anything snobbish - just telling you it's not the best of the three

[earnest raptor]

Is it a Marvel movie

[bold canopy]

no

[earnest raptor]

Ok MCU hater

[bronze hawk]

Ruby's more savage than I expected

[pulsar dome]

may we all please stop this argument?

[bold canopy]

I'd prefer if we did

but im peacing out of here either way so it hardly matters to me either way

[earnest raptor]

The Last Of Us 3 beckons

[bold canopy]

lmao

anyways sorry you are incapable of having fun. No I will not elaborate.

[earnest raptor]

Pwned

[real monolith]

yall having some petty ass talks rn lol

[random token]

every day a new discord user discovers what an opinion is

when will you all realize

you could argue about this for a thousand fucking years

none of you will ever change your opinions about this movie

if you want to talk about what you did and didnt like, thats fine

[real monolith]

the moment we all realize this is the moment theres no need for the server

[random token]

but trying to convince someone that they are wrong for liking or not liking a fucking movie about dudes in costumes fighting each other is a waste of time

[random token]

lol true

can we all just agree that enjoyment is 100% subjective and that its ok to like or dislike or even hate this movie?

and that ridiculing someone for not sharing your exact opinions is pointless?

[earnest raptor]

I don’t think anybody was calling anyone wrong except for that one guy

He asked for my opinion, I gave it and he called me a snob

[indigo geyser]

NOO

[earnest raptor]

I never dismissed his

[earnest raptor]

Yes tho

[random token]

i'm not accusing anyone of doing or saying anything

just making some general statements

[solemn wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-oh-yeah-dancing-cat-gif-10961226009468952545

More horror on MCU

[random token]

we need a full mcu horror movie

[indigo geyser]

Werewolf by night did better horror than multiverse of madness

[indigo geyser]

Yea I’m with ya on it

[random token]

i think doctor strange was just too important to the future of the mcu for kevin feige to allow it to be a full horror movie

[solemn wasp]

Hehe 😉

[bold canopy]

you know its mildly annoying to see you try and discredit my response when you know the reason I said that was because someone tried to literally discredit my opinion by flexing the number of movies he watched

so forgive me if I was a little annoyed

at the time

[indigo geyser]

I hated MoM, thought it was waste, they redid Wanda’s story arc which was done in WandaVision all over again even tho they left the “seeds” for MoM at end of wandavision

[bold canopy]

I mean having someone so blatantly do that is really really fucking frustrating as I'm sure you can understand

[indigo geyser]

Also didn’t like how cheesy America Chavez was

[bold canopy]

My only issue with Dr Strange 2 was that it was too Sam Raimi

[solemn wasp]

My maestro 😎 genius

https://tenor.com/view/horror-scary-doors-trapped-doctor-strange-gif-26678029

[earnest raptor]

The amount of style he brought to Marvel felt illegal. Dunno how he got away with making such a gorgeous campy B-Movie on that scale

[bold canopy]

it was jarring to see just how Raimi it was. I had the same issue with Iron Man 3 and Shane Black. Some movies in the MCU are so influenced by their director that it can sometimes be at a detriment to the film. Now I liked Multiverse of Madness and I want more Raimi in the MCU, but it was definitely distracting at times

It was jarring

[earnest raptor]

Evil Dead with hundreds of millions of dollars lol

[bold canopy]

probably the same way Shane Black got to make a campy as fuck B movie like Iron Man 3 were Tony Stark spends most of the movie not in his suit

directors as it turns out when it comes to the MCU have a ton of say in how their movies turn out

for better or worse

[earnest raptor]

And as a result they made two of the best Marvel films

[bold canopy]

Taika Watiti for example ruined Thor's character and worst of all took a shit on two of Thor's biggest comic storylines.

Mind you Thor Ragnarok is fine enough

but Love and Thunder is offensive to me

as a comic fan

cause it wasted Gorr

[earnest raptor]

It’s almost like having individual visions that set you apart from the overly polished house style makes for a more interesting film

[bold canopy]

I hate Iron Man 3 ill be real, but I've never been a big Shane Black guy

Nice Guys is probably the only movie of his I really love

But I think its a good thing that directors get so much say and influence in the MCU that I can hate a movie they made because it's painfully their movie

[surreal onyx]

Loved the random cameos

Especially the random side X-Men from X-Men 2 lol

[random token]

i need to see like a full breakdown and then watch it again

i guarantee i missed stuff

[supple sequoia]

I am marvel Jesus

[indigo geyser]

Is that a Gojo Pfp?

[brazen prairie]

No it's probably just because if someone doesn't like the same movies you do you think they're dumb and don't know anything and will personally attack them

[surreal onyx]

yes

[random token]

if only you could read the messages like literally right above this one

[brazen prairie]

If you could read some of the messages you sent in the comic chat when someone said they didn't like it because of valid reason

[random token]

not liking a movie because it used cg blood and not real blood is NOT a valid reason lmao

im done talking to you now

peace

[brazen prairie]

Yes it is people can like movies and dislike movies for the reasons they want

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/vaughanilla_/status/1818402977192747156?s=46

[real monolith]

is that supposed to be Sloth from The Goonies?

[topaz vessel]

Its Peter's friend, Ned.

[real monolith]

hmm

[unborn lotus]

Even before the credits rolled, I already knew that Ladypool was Blake Lively

[warped nova]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYwLaBUK/ wholesome

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/KurzedZuko/status/1818282000106795372

[half coyote]

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/deadpool-wolverine-20th-centruy-fox-xmen-blade-1236090606/

[tidal saddle]

https://youtu.be/Q8X6V_nGU_A?si=U9_kzwnAnMXYDLh_

[craggy axle]

I saw the movie last night. Was a lot of fun

Was funny to see all of the cameos. When I saw Chris Evans I totally saw that Human Torch reveal right before it happened, haha

Also, I laughed at the "some motherfuckers are still trying to ice-skate uphill"

Also it was funny to have Cowboypool be Matthew McConoughey

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/marvel/status/1818678169999659170

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/onetakenews/status/1818737301100388386

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/vancityreynolds/status/1818749773299511692

[half coyote]

I feel so sorry for my friend. not seeing it till Sunday and shes already been spoiled on a few things

[coarse ginkgo]

Well you’ve got the stars and director posting loads of stuff and even reposting clips

So pretty hard to avoid if you don’t see it like opening day lol

[craggy axle]

I had the Electra cameo spoiled, and I never watched the last trailer, but I still had the X23 cameo spoiled as well

[uneven reef]

Gambit was so good

[half coyote]

I avoided all of the marketing and managed to forget any casting

[tidal saddle]

yeah heard that X-23 got revealed really early. Avoided all marketing

[half coyote]

so it was all a nice surprise

[craggy axle]

I think I may have had the blade cameo spoiled really early on, but I think I forgot about it, because I was surprised in the movie

[coarse ginkgo]

She didn’t get revealed early which is arguably worse

It was 5 days before the film came out they put her in a trailer

[craggy axle]

Yeah, they supposedly revealed it in the final trailer, which is frustrating

[coarse ginkgo]

Well now you’ve seen it you can watch the trailer right

See for yourself

https://youtu.be/Idh8n5XuYIA?si=siNTHdC3QXeHkm1x

[craggy axle]

lol, they hang on that shot for so long...

Also, that trailer shows a bit more of the emotional side of the movie that the other trailers didn't show

[tidal saddle]

damn I would've been pissed and happy seeing X-23 early

[coarse ginkgo]

Completely different tone to the actual movie

[craggy axle]

I was actually surprised at how serious the movie got at times. I didn't expect the whole "deadpool wants purpose" plot

[craggy axle]

So what's the deal with anchor beings? They said that Wolverine was the anchor being in that universe, but it's not like he's been around forever. Was there a different anchor being before him? Or was his bloodline part of the anchor being thing?

[brazen prairie]

The other trailers were better TBH

[bronze hawk]

I rewatched it with my girlfriend

It’s EASILY the worst of the three films

The story and plotting are a disaster

[brazen prairie]

Argument incoming

(not from me)

[bronze hawk]

I’m just spitting facts

I’ll eat my words if someone manages to accurately summarize the plot in a sentence

Like the first one - someone ruins Deadpool’s life, so he decides to get revenge

Second one - Deadpool feels guilty over Vanessa’s death, so he saves an orphaned kid

Third one - Deadpool’s timeline will be erased because the anchor being is dead (what a stupid fucking concept that makes absolutely no sense), so he teams up with Wolverine to…? Don’t ask me because the movie doesn’t know what the hell they’re trying to accomplish

I genuinely don’t understand even after seeing it twice what Deadpool plans on doing once he gets home - killing the TVA and Paradox lmao

[brazen prairie]

Chill with his friends 🤷

I just thought it was fun

[bronze hawk]

Brilliant writing

I’m saying the story in the first two is cohesive

This one is a jumbled mess of half baked ideas

[brazen prairie]

I'm saying I liked it

[bronze hawk]

For example, the entire third act

[warped nova]

https://fixupx.com/furiousnoah_/status/1818152551012811125

[craggy axle]

I mean, you're oversimplifying the first two movies and overcomplicating the third movie. If you're going to summarize it in a quick sentence like that then Deadpool 3 is just "Deadpool's universe is at stake and he tries to safe it"

[bronze hawk]

Im not doing that though lol

Tries to save it how

I mean by that metric, the second one would be the future is at stake so Deadpool tries to save it

The third movie is a convoluted mess

But that’s what happens when you introduce multiverse nonsense

[topaz vessel]

The Deadpool video game was fun, and it pissed on its own plot all the time, so its par for the course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2ee85buPiE

[warped nova]

Game owns

[craggy axle]

I want to play the Deadpool game. But it's not on Steam anymore, I think

Or i don't know if it ever was. Oh well ||🏴‍☠️ ?||

[random token]

his goal is to bring wolverine into his universe so that his universe will have a wolverine and therefore not be destroyed. its explained pretty clearly in the movie

[brazen prairie]

Here we go

[topaz vessel]

It was. God knows why its been taken down.

[bronze hawk]

Except Paradox tells him he can’t do that

That’s literally what kickstarts the second act

Or were you not paying attention there

[smoky vapor]

The anchor being thing just seems like a Paradox lie to me. Just trying to make an excuse to test his tech.

Could also be some meta commentary stuff on the fact that Logan was the best part of the fox universe, as well as the lie.

Like the way they show and explain it jn this film

Am i insane

Unrelated to the current discussion but*

[bronze hawk]

I think it’s meant to be an actual thing

[craggy axle]

Except it literally works.

[bronze hawk]

No it doesn’t 🤣 how does it work

It works because of the convoluted nonsense at the end of the movie

[craggy axle]

At the end they say the timeline is starting to come back

[bronze hawk]

When the TVA stops Paradox

[craggy axle]

They say they found their new anchor being

[bronze hawk]

Characters say whatever the movie needs them to it makes no logical sense

What the fuck lol when do they ever say that

Who is the new anchor being

[topaz vessel]

What if the anchor being friggin dies of natural causes?

[smoky vapor]

It wasn’t portrayed very well to me if it was meant to be a legit thing then

[bronze hawk]

Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s legit

[smoky vapor]

Weird

[bronze hawk]

But the writing is horrible so there ya go

[topaz vessel]

Well, if a movie with "horrible writing" can make that much bank...

[bronze hawk]

Oh they can

Look no further than Transformers

And they always have

It’s nothing new

[topaz vessel]

Then who cares. All movies need to be is fun.

[bronze hawk]

As long as you shove cameo porn and fan service down the audience’s throats, they’ll eat it up

[topaz vessel]

If they eat it up, any Strat is good. It's a business.

[smoky vapor]

This movie is fun as fuck for me but i do have some issues with it.

The anchor being thing being legit doesn’t make sense to what the film is actually doing and saying

So im a bit annoyed with that

[lone bone]

Better hope it'll have the same Cantonese subtitles being shown in theatres across Hong Kong and Macau when it hits Disney+ later this year

The anchor thing was so random. So they're implying Wolverine can never ever die?

[bronze hawk]

The question is who was the anchor being before Wolverine was born

[smoky vapor]

That is a logic issue because then that’s saying anchor beings can change.

Yet when the AB dies its supposed to trigger the slow death of the universe.

So that is something definitely overlooked

[bronze hawk]

Again

[random token]

and then prunes him, so his new plan is to get back to his universe and destroy the timeline ripper. again, very clearly explained in the movie

[bronze hawk]

Fans wont care as long as you force feed them with cameo porn and fan service

[bronze hawk]

Then why does he need Wolverine

I mean he doesn’t

Convoluted see what I mean

He needs Wolverine because the fans want him

[random token]

well i mean, when he does finally bring wolverine into his universe it does in fact stop decaying

so his plan literally worked

paradox just wanted to destroy his universe

[bronze hawk]

What lol no it doesn’t stop

[random token]

yea it does

b-15 literally says so

[bronze hawk]

Why would Paradox want to destroy it

[random token]

or were you not paying attention

[bronze hawk]

Because he destroyed the timeline ripped

Were YOU not paying attention

[random token]

destroying the timeline ripper wouldnt stop the decay

wolverine being in the universe did that

[bronze hawk]

So now you can replace anchor beings?

[random token]

that was always the logic, yes

look you can have issues with the concept

i think its a weak concept

[bronze hawk]

How do you know 😂

That doesn’t make sense though

How do you replace an anchor being

[random token]

but given the information provided in the movie, deadpool's actions are consistent with the logic

[bronze hawk]

When do they establish that can be done

[random token]

i mean he literally does it

he made an educated wish lol

[bronze hawk]

Not about that

[random token]

i will clarify that i do think this movie has the worst story and character motivations of the trilogy

but it feels like you are over nitpicking

[bronze hawk]

His wish was they could reverse what happened in Logan’s timeline

[bronze hawk]

There is no logic that’s the issue

[craggy axle]

Paradox built the ripper BECAUSE the timeline was decaying. It's not decaying because he built the ripper. (unless he was lying, but that's a different convo)

[bronze hawk]

There is absolutely zero logic

[random token]

he built the ripper to speed up the process

and deadpool destroyed the ripper, and relaced the anchor being

therefore saving his universe

[bronze hawk]

No

[random token]

at least for several thousands of years

[bronze hawk]

He destroyed the ripper

[craggy axle]

I will admit, I felt like the whole "the universe isn't decaying anymore" did feel a little hand-wavey like "don't think about it too much". But seemingly Wolverine and Deadpool stopping that action did lead to one or both of them being the anchor beings

[bronze hawk]

You can’t replace the anchor being

[random token]

the movie literally says you can

[bronze hawk]

It’ll probably cease to exist within 1000+ years

[craggy axle]

B-12 said it's not decaying anymore

[random token]

again b-15 literally said the decay stopped

[bronze hawk]

Then that also doesn’t make sense

[random token]

which felt unnecessary to me

but it did happen

[bronze hawk]

B-15 seems to say whatever the story needs

Instead of using logic

[random token]

💀

why cant you just accept that anchor beings can be replaced

that is the logic established in the movie

its not great logic but at least it is consistent throughout the movie

[craggy axle]

Paradox said you can't, but it turned out he was wrong. At the end I believe it was heavily implied that Wolverine is the new anchor being, meaning that Paradox just didn't know what he was talking about

[random token]

that was my interpretation

i dont think paradox knew whether or not you c an

he said you can't because he didnt even want to try

[brazen prairie]

What did I say

[random token]

he just wanted to destroy the universe and get it over with

[random token]

i wouldnt call this an argument

more just, one person being stubborn and ignoring the things said in the movie lol

[bronze hawk]

I mean I’m arguing with a fan boy

[random token]

ok im not humoring this anymore lmao

peace

[brazen prairie]

And you are arguing with them

Whenever he notices he losing one he just leaves lol

[bronze hawk]

So classic

[brazen prairie]

I wouldn't call this an argument then proceeds to call it an argument 😂😂😂

[bronze hawk]

The thing is this

They never explain why the universe healed

So he’s just making assumptions

If it’s not in the movie, it doesn’t exist

B-15 even implies that she doesn’t know why

And says they will investigate further

My guess is the writers don’t know either

And need time to come up with some bullshit explanation

[brazen prairie]

Like I love this movie and even I agree with you he's just arguing for no reason

[bronze hawk]

There’s nothing wrong with loving the movie

[topaz vessel]

Imma guess Loki going Yggdrasil might have a thing or two to do with it. Like nobody knows he did that.

[brazen prairie]

Ik I was just saying he loves it but can't notice the things wrong with it

[craggy axle]

I will admit that we don't know for sure, but I also feel like there's nothing to suggest that anchor beings can't be replaced. The only thing that refutes this is just Paradox saying "you can't do that"

[bronze hawk]

Yes lmao

And if it’s the only thing saying it

It’s the only thing in the movie other than baseless assumptions

[craggy axle]

Yeah, but then it gets fixed after Wolverine shows up there, so that's a point in it's direction

Maybe Wolverine performing a universe-saving action in that universe solidified him as an anchor being there

[bronze hawk]

Now you’re just reaching for the stars

[craggy axle]

What do you mean?

[random token]

ok let me break it down

[craggy axle]

You haven't provided any better explanations. You're just saying it's trash

[random token]

deadpool believes that if he brings another wolverine into his universe it will stop decaying

paradox says it wont work

deadpool brings another wolverine into his universe anyways, then it stops decaying

it seems pretty clear to me

[craggy axle]

I'm not arguing that I'm right, I'm positing theories here. Don't just shoot them down and say I'm wrong unless you have a better idea or evidence to the contrary

[brazen prairie]

Y'all both disagree just agree to disagree and leave each other alone 🙏🙏

[bronze hawk]

Theories aren’t fact

Fact is what’s in the movie

[craggy axle]

I'm not saying they are.

[bronze hawk]

And Paradox literally says they can’t be replaced

[random token]

and whats in the movie, is deadpool's universe healing the very moment a new wolverine enters it

[random token]

paradox is also literally a rogue agent who would rather destroy a universe than even try to save it

[bronze hawk]

I thought you said you’d fuck off lol

[brazen prairie]

Please your not going to change each others mind

[random token]

have you ever heard of characters in movies being unreliable?

[random token]

i couldnt resist teehee

[topaz vessel]

Paradox is a "couillon". Dont listen to "couillons."

[craggy axle]

Thanos also said that snapping half of existence was the only way too, but then that didn't work out for him either

[random token]

believe it or not, characters in movies can be wrong

[craggy axle]

Villains never think there are better ways

[random token]

especially characters with malicious intent

paradox just didnt want to try

he wanted to destroy the universe and be done

[random token]

bro really left as soon as he realized he was wrong lol

[brazen prairie]

?

[random token]

!

[bronze hawk]

I didn’t leave you’re just a mindless fanboy

[random token]

mindless?

[bronze hawk]

And arguing with a fanboy is pointless lol

[craggy axle]

Paradox really be like a movie producer that wants to scrap a movie because you can get more from the tax write off than trying to save it... lol

[random token]

i seem to be the only one who actually paid attention

[topaz vessel]

People who lose arguments deflect alot.

[random token]

look, resort to name calling if it makes you feel better

i understand that critical thinking isnt your strong suit

[brazen prairie]

I wasn't even arguing I was asking y'all to stop

[craggy axle]

I feel like fehabhab hasn't really given any points to their own argument. Only shooting others down

[random token]

and the idea of a character lying or being wrong is foreign to you

[bronze hawk]

That’s never what I said

Paradox is the only character who stated you can’t replace anchor beings

[random token]

like i totally understand having issues with the logic of the film, i have some myself, but this feels like mindless contradiction for no reason

[bronze hawk]

Nobody else stated that you can

[random token]

and he was wrong

[topaz vessel]

So Palpatine lying to manipulate Anakin is believable, but not this?

[bronze hawk]

He could be wrong sure BUT nothing proves otherwise

[random token]

except that it literally worked when deadpool did it lmao

[bronze hawk]

Nothing in the film proves that he’s wrong

[craggy axle]

The universe healing is a good piece of evidence

[bronze hawk]

The ripper was destroyed

[random token]

i mean... the universe stopped decaying

does that not prove it?

[bronze hawk]

Again

[craggy axle]

The universe was decaying before the ripper was even there

[bronze hawk]

The ripper was destroyed

[topaz vessel]

The healing of the timeline proves he's wrong.

[random token]

and why would that have any impact?

the ripper was built to destroy the universe

destroying it would have no impact on the decay

[random token]

the only thing we are ever told has a chance of healing the universe is a new wolverine

[topaz vessel]

Which Wade got.

[craggy axle]

Who cares if we're going to change each other's minds. We're just talking

[random token]

yeah we're all just having fun here

i like talking about movies

sue me

[brazen prairie]

Are you tho it doesn't seem like it

[random token]

and the moment a new wolverine entered the universe it stopped decaying

[random token]

im having a blast!

[bronze hawk]

I just can’t believe you’re arguing something that’s established as such a vital piece of a universe can be plucked from another universe without any consequences (which let’s be honest completely destroys the stakes so I hope you’re incorrect for the MCU’s sake)

[topaz vessel]

And there's the proof Paradox is full of shit.

[craggy axle]

Sometimes I find that the best way to understand a movie is to have these kinds of discussions afterwards.

[random token]

all im saying is that the movie seems to highly imply that it is the case

[bronze hawk]

Imply being the key word right

Does B-15 ever state that’s what caused the universe to stop decaying

[craggy axle]

I had like a half hour convo after tenet to figure out what happened

[random token]

he has every reason to lie to deadpool

[bronze hawk]

Because if she does I will eat my words

If she doesn’t, I won’t believe it till I hear it

And for all we know

[topaz vessel]

He wants to destroy DP's universe.

[smoky vapor]

i like this interpretation because it lets me make more fun of WB

[bronze hawk]

Something could’ve happened outside the movie’s story that caused the shift

[random token]

paradox wants to destroy deadpool's universe and put him in the mcu, of course he would tell him theres no other way!

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/champagnesh0ts/status/1818579190133719266?s=46

[random token]

the disneyland deadpool is actually SO funny

its hard to do pg13 deadpool but they did it

[bronze hawk]

And you really don’t think there’s another universe Paradox can destroy? It HAS to be this one?

[tidal saddle]

ON FLEEK NO CAP SIGMA 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯

[bronze hawk]

I don’t think we’ll ever agree on this

[craggy axle]

Fun fact, in BC Canada, deadpool is 14a. So basically PG 13

[smoky vapor]

Yeah in quebec its 13+

[random token]

you really think its more likely that some unexplained thing outside the movie happened at the same time coincidentally, rather than the villain of the movie told a lie that would help him achieve his goals?

[topaz vessel]

Logan's dead, it has to be this one.

[random token]

he literally said he was tasked with overseeing this universe

[craggy axle]

My mom after the movie was saying it was too violent for her. I was joking with her saying "this movie is for 14 year olds..."

[random token]

his department deals with universes who lose their anchor beings

[bronze hawk]

I would believe you had B-15 confirmed it

But she didn’t

[topaz vessel]

That's because, in canada, we have less psychos who shoot people, so younger people dont immediately turn broken when they watch movies like that over here nowadays.

[random token]

i just dont see why the concept of a villain telling a lie to help accomplish their goals is such an impossible idea to you

[craggy axle]

I also think it's possible that replacing an anchor bwing has never worked before but this was the first time it has

[random token]

i mean she said "whatever you did, it worked"

[bronze hawk]

That doesn’t imply bringing Wolverine did it

[random token]

i think no one had ever tried before

[bronze hawk]

I promise you I’ll eat my words if someone from Marvel confirms it

But that’s the least of my issues

[bronze hawk]

Oh come on that would be such a load of shit

[craggy axle]

You're calling everything I posit completely insane, but I think my theories are reasonable.

[bronze hawk]

He could be telling a lie

[bronze hawk]

They’re all theories and speculation

[craggy axle]

Yeah, what's your point?

[random token]

i think he doesnt know if replacing an anchor being would work and/or doesnt care

[bronze hawk]

I don’t have a point

[random token]

ok i mean

something fixed deadpool's universe

[topaz vessel]

Many people and sources confirm that the presence of a new Logan is what fixed everything.

[random token]

its either

[bronze hawk]

Lmao what people and sources

[random token]

A: the thing that the entire movies says will fix his universe

[bronze hawk]

I really hope that’s incorrect

[craggy axle]

Not all movies have everything wrapped up in a bow. Some movies take some interpretation and theories to be understood.

[random token]

or B: something offscreen

[bronze hawk]

Because if it’s correct, that essentially means there’s zero stakes

Something goes to shit in one universe?

You pluck the same person from the other

[random token]

i mean i would say most people do not have access to the multiverse

deadpool only does because the tva wanted him to join 616

[craggy axle]

Also, most people probably don't have the ability to be anchor beings

[bronze hawk]

The multiverse has been established

[random token]

its not like your average joe can just go universe hopping

[bronze hawk]

The avengers have access to it

So if Stark is the anchor being in theirs

[random token]

the avengers made a very big point about not tampering with timelines

[bronze hawk]

They can pluck a Stark from a different universe

[craggy axle]

And if you take an anchor being from one universe then you're just dooming that universe instead

[bronze hawk]

Yet they do 🤣 and consistently have

[random token]

i think this could be a secret wars/doomsday setup

where they go to find another stark variant

[bronze hawk]

I wish they’d close the multiverse

[random token]

only to accidentally come across doom

[bronze hawk]

It leads to convoluted storytelling

[random token]

if you dont like the multiverse, why did you watch this movie?

it didnt have deceptive marketing

[bronze hawk]

Because I love Deadpool

[random token]

it always was very clearly a multiverse movie

[bronze hawk]

Never said it does lol

That’s not why I disliked the movie though

I just thought the story was sloppy

Which is what happens when you have five different writers behind it

[random token]

zeb wells definitely should NOT have been allowed in the writers room

i blame him for all the movie's flaws

[bronze hawk]

Who the fuck is that

[random token]

he created paul.

[bronze hawk]

Paul?

[random token]

paul

from the recent spider-man comics

[bronze hawk]

No idea who that is man

[random token]

the worst character ever introduced in marvel

trust me, everyone fucking HATES paul

[craggy axle]

I still think that my theory makes sense. That Wolverine WASN'T an anchor being in Deadpool's universe and wasn't going to work normally if you dropped him in there, but because he performed an action that saved the universe from Nova that caused him to be essential to the universe and made him an anchor being.

You can say that's ridiculous. Idc.

But I gotta leave. So see ya

[random token]

i definitely dont think the wolverine we follow was the anchor of his own universe

[craggy axle]

Yes, I agree

[bronze hawk]

Is he just an average Joe I don’t get it

[random token]

basically mj gets stuck in another universe

so peter goes and gets her

but for her its been five years

and she has two kids

[bronze hawk]

I’ve never read a comic in my life

[random token]

with paul.

[bronze hawk]

And one is Paul? 🤣

[random token]

no paul is their dad

[bronze hawk]

Oh 😂 close enough

[random token]

and people fucking HATE paul lmao

[smoky vapor]

Idek who he is but fuck paul

[random token]

RAAAAA FUCK PAUL

yes i fully blame zeb wells for the messy logic in deadpool & wolverine LOL

[indigo geyser]

Doesn’t it stop decaying because Deadpool and Wolverine stop that machine

[indigo geyser]

Pretty sure B-15 made the observation that the timeline was healing after they destroy the machine

[random token]

the machine would have no reason to affect the decay though?

i think its definitely a bit iffy

the movie definitely is not very clear

hence why i was giving my interpretation

[indigo geyser]

That was part of the subtext with that character, meta joke

[indigo geyser]

Wolverine and Deadpool they both have regenerative properties, I’d figured when they connected the circuit with the machine and got de-atomized some of there shiii renegerized the timeline lol

[random token]

thats actually not a bad theory!

the part about the timeline not decaying anymore definitely felt tacked on

and theres a chance that something else happened that will be explained in secret wars

but i think the movie was trying to imply that wolverine being in the universe was the cause

[supple sequoia]

imfaoooo

[indigo geyser]

I think it’s meant as foreshadowing of a diff phenomenon, it’s also plot convenience but that like grasping at hairs

[random token]

especially since b15 said she would keep an eye on it and be in contact and stuff

[indigo geyser]

Yeah if Deadpool didn’t bring Wolverine they wouldn’t have been able to “fix” whatever decay was going on

[random token]

@bronze hawk please dont make fun of me, but i do think you might have been right lol

might being the keyword

[random token]

i laughed SO MUCH at that line

[bronze hawk]

Nah man it’s all good I got heated but it wasn’t because of you

Rough day is all

So apologies if I said anything out of line

[indigo geyser]

I’m more hyped about the Dr doom RDJ, didn’t like it at first but, the it could be the proper send off to infinity and multiverse saga

[random token]

no no its ok, i like debating about movies! i promise i took no offense lol

[random token]

i think it has a lot of potential to be great but must be done well

[indigo geyser]

Dr doom being some variant of Tony stark (Victor von doom in that verse) that has a twisted sense of justice/or maybe he trying to save his own universe at the detremant to 616 and other universes

[random token]

and yes especially if they end secret wars by doing a soft reboot

what better way to end this era of marvel movies than with the man who started it all

[random token]

i mean something interesting to remember

is that even 616 stark had some very authoritarian ideas

"suit of armor around the world" etc

[indigo geyser]

Full circle ⭕️

[random token]

so the idea of him going crazy and trying to oversee the entire universe is honestly not a huge stretch

[indigo geyser]

Flash back to Tony in avengers 2

[random token]

like you can absolutely see how stark under different circumstances could have gone down that route

[indigo geyser]

He had friends to help him out, a version of him with out those friends may have well intentions.

The whole galactus plot point in fantastic 4, (possibly destroying that universe with the fantastic 4 escaping/surviving) victor being the sole survivor trying to avenge his universe/save his universe

[random token]

yeah i honestly would be surprised if the doom in doomsday/secret wars isnt from the f4 universe

that seems like the obvious way to tie the movies together

[indigo geyser]

It’s an easy W for them, and they can salvage the kang situation 🧑🏾‍🍳🤌🏾 with that

[random token]

im like 89% confident doom will show up in some capacity in first steps

[indigo geyser]

kang is already taken care of via Loki season 2

[random token]

i mean honestly loki s2 basically allows them to close the book on kang

it ended with the tva having the kang situation under control

so they could really just leave it at that

[indigo geyser]

TVA being hyper focused on kang allows other threats to go unchecked

[random token]

this is true

its like the basketball video with the gorilla

[indigo geyser]

You looking forward to Agatha coven of chaos?

[smoky vapor]

Being in canada this moment tends to get a reaction lol

yes

lol no dont need to delete

[random token]

i meant to do that as a reply lol

[smoky vapor]

i was just joking sorry

[random token]

no

[random token]

lol no i just wanted to fix it

i'll watch coven of chaos if i happen to have disney+ sometime

but im not paying for two months of disney+ for that show lmao

[sacred ingot]

ngl henry cavil as wolverine could be good who's with me

[fast finch]

I liked him in his Ungentlemanly Warfare role. I personally think he needs to stay away from superhero movies for a bit

He'd be a good war movie guy

[half coyote]

I need to watch Ungentlemanly. And I do like Cavill. I think he has be burned by the superhero genre so yes, I agree he should stay away

That jawline of his does limit his casting though

[meager cosmos]

It's funny that he reloaded his arms again in this like he did in Fallout

[indigo geyser]

I think it’s got potential to be solid, at least a nice Halloween type marvel project.

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Earth_730911/status/1818742817801617591

[tidal saddle]

https://youtu.be/Yd47Z8HYf0Y?si=1_bdH9F1sPlDi45D

time really flies

[sacred ingot]

dumbass

[tidal saddle]

hey now what's being a dick for

I wasn't tryna jumpscare people. Just a fun reference

[warped nova]

Lol

[random token]

i want a gif of wolverine jumping from that shot with text that just says "fnaf"

[indigo geyser]

It was pretty scary, wasn’t it… almost had a heart attack

[random token]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-and-wolverine-wolverine-and-deadpool-deadpool-vs-wolverine-wolverine-jumpscare-wolverine-mcu-gif-5697347843357987268

[bronze hawk]

Are you gonna be pissed if he’s not a Tony Stark variant? Because then it’s like how the fuck does this villain look EXACTLY like Tony Stark

[bronze hawk]

I think it’s the only war movie I’ve seen without life and death stakes for the heroes

They’re pretty much invincible from the get go

[random token]

i wont be pissed but it will definitely be weird if they dont at least explain why he looks like stark

like the only way this casting works

is if they really play into it

[bronze hawk]

I don’t see how it could make sense

Unless he’s Stark’s lost twin

[random token]

him looking like stark needs to actually be important to the story in some way

[random token]

i mean he would be a multiversal variant

[bronze hawk]

Because it’s not a matter of him looking LIKE Stark he’d look IDENTICAL to Stark

[random token]

he's not from 616

[bronze hawk]

Then yeah it would be a variant

But I’m saying if he’s not a variant

[random token]

he is though

[bronze hawk]

Just a random dude named Victor Von Doom

[random token]

marvel isnt that stupid

[bronze hawk]

They haven’t confirmed that

Ok now you follow me

[random token]

there is not a single universe in which mcu dr doom is just a random european guy in 616 who happens to look exactly like stark

like there might be a 616 doom

and i hope there is

but the doom in the coming avengers movie is 100% from the multiverse

especially since there are reports that he will be in the fantastic 4 movie

which takes place in another universe

i think they chose to announce rdj's return as doom right before filming fantastic 4 so that they could get ahead of leaks

because if he is in fantastic 4, even in one or two scenes, that absolutely would leak

[bronze hawk]

I’m guessing they’ve shot his scenes

And don’t want anything to leak

So they took control of the narrative

[random token]

that is a very good guess

especially since as i mentioned somewhere before, there are rumors/reports that they already did a week or two of filming due to scheduling

now that you mention it, i think its very likely that those were scenes with rdj

no clue how i didnt put 2 and 2 together there 😭

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/shawnlevydirect/status/1819039601685873143

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9BWRaXdA-M&ab_channel=MarvelEntertainment

[tidal saddle]

They need to release that orchestral version of midnight hour badly

[bronze hawk]

https://variety.com/2024/film/opinion/why-deadpool-and-wolverine-is-the-years-most-depressing-success-story-1236092030/

This is gonna piss a lot of people off

[random token]

i think the problem is that studios seem to be really good at taking all the wrong lessons from successful movies

like when barbie wasa hit and hasbro announced like a dozen movies based on other toys

even though barbie wasnt successful because it was about a toy

[topaz vessel]

Imagine people being angry because a movie they hate is successful.

[random token]

lol true

i think there are valid criticisms to be made

like deadpool & wolverine very much being the very thing its mocking

but at the same time

calling it "the year's most depressing success story" is a MAJOR stretch

theres nothing depressing about this movie doing well

i mean sure, if you hate marvel movies then maybe

but marvel isnt going anywhere

and non marvel movies arent going anywhere either

this year has had so many incredible non-superhero movies

its ok for both to exist

so let people who like marvel keep watching those movies

and if you dont like 'em

just ignore them lol

but dont act like youre better than everyone else because you dont watch superhero movies

[topaz vessel]

Oh, that is rampant.

Watching MCU equals watching inferior shit for alot of people.

not for me.

For me its an ongoing narrative that isnt over yet.

[random token]

i grew up on mcu movies

this is a story i have been invested in my entire life

and a few weak chapters doesnt mean the book is ending

[topaz vessel]

sure some chapters are a bit lesser than others, but what story doesent have lesser chapters?

[random token]

it is impossible for something as big as the mcu to just keep getting bigger and better forever

having a few years where its messier and weaker

allows it to come back stronger than ever

[topaz vessel]

That is exactly what people want. And because of that, well...they'll be dissapointed.

[random token]

this is true

i mean look at doctor strange 2

it's biggest issue was just not meeting the unrealistic fan expectations

"not having tom cruise" should not be the main reason people dont like a movie

[random token]

those go kinda hard tbh

[mental yoke]

this video fucks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9BWRaXdA-M

i love deadpool's theme

in this movie

[random token]

the score in this movie is really damn good

i gotta watch that vid after work

[indigo geyser]

reeks of “corporations == bad 😡”

[indigo geyser]

Gotta cop them

[indigo geyser]

Ofc “geeks for gamers” and the “critical drinker” say so!!!

[topaz vessel]

I dont believe it myself. I see MCU, I see Deadpool, i watch.

However, i dont think Morbius was as bad as they say. There's much worse out there.

Same for Eternals.

There's better, but there's worse.

Like i'm half sure Kraven's gonna be shit.

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/amctheatres/status/1819086385334133070?

[ashen crypt]

Things noticed upon second watch, Hugh Jackman gets to mince Blake Lively as lady deadpool

[indigo geyser]

Eternals had was an exposition dump plus world building me being a marvel fan enjoy, but morbius… idk how you managed to stay awake

[indigo geyser]

Maybe they will let the actors cut loose since it’s rated R

[craggy axle]

I think that Morbius is one of the worst superhero movies. But also I'm maybe a bit biased because my friends and I played a drinking game and spent the whole time clowning on it, so maybe our perception of it was more negative than if I just watched it by myself.

But also, we had fun though, so it wasn't all that bad of an experience.

[indigo geyser]

https://youtu.be/Ck8Chi8j0gA?si=2V9kEdnflhoi0uEE @random token

[random token]

this video actually makes a really good point

which is that theres no reason to believe every universe has an anchor being

and someone can become an anchor being by being such an inspiring hero that their universe literally can't continue without them

i actually really like that explanation

[craggy axle]

If the TVA exists outside of time and sees all of time all at once, how are they ever caught off guard by events happening in each timeline?

Like wouldn't they be able to see this movie play out entirely if they just looked at it?

[topaz vessel]

Only Uatu sees everything at once. TVA dont have nothing on him.

[random token]

its explained in loki s1, i forget the exact phrasing though

[dreamy cedar]

Wow this section blew up like a farm fire lately. I wasn’t aware this movie is that controversial.

[smoky vapor]

https://youtu.be/kUrT2UErII8?si=h_8cErhqgXhLUCno

[dreamy cedar]

I was kinda disappointed at this

Deadpool is a really unlikeable character I felt no connection to

If your whole character is treated like a joke im never going to take him seriously

[dreamy cedar]

Both are in my opinion. I am not a fan I hate this movie.

Both him and Wolverine I mean.

I like Wolverine honestly because he gives my exact thoughts on deadpool in the car scene

Also the cameos are so shit

[dreamy cedar]

I mean to be fair he was a big jokester in the other Deadpool movies too but there he was funny unlike here.

Like wow Elektra what a beloved character

The Channing Tatum thing was ridiculous

Thank goodness Superman is not a Marvel character because I would hate to see how he’s wasted.

If you don’t have extremely specific knowledge on cancelled movies you don’t get it like I didn’t during the movie

My biggest problem with multiverse movies is that most of the them just half arse the whole thing

[smoky vapor]

The cameos were always going to be Fox-related

idk why people expected MCU cameos

[dreamy cedar]

At least go all in the cameos

[dreamy cedar]

Isn’t this movie meant to be resettting the mcu

Like all that happened was nothing actually

[dreamy cedar]

It’s far more complicated than time traveling that’s why it’s more often done horribly.

The timeline didn’t dissapear

[smoky vapor]

That was never what it advertised

Idk where ya getting that one from

not to say at all that this film is perfect, but…

Mcu cameos were never gonna be a thing, it was never gonna reset the mcu

[dreamy cedar]

When deadpool says he’s marvel Jesus I get the vibes he’s meant to be resetting this universe

[smoky vapor]

Was always going to be a few solid fox cameos as a tribute to that era, in terms of the fanservice elements

[smoky vapor]

that’s an interesting reach lol

[dreamy cedar]

This hardly feels like a piece of filmmaking

[dreamy cedar]

I wouldn’t say so

[smoky vapor]

I don’t get your logic whatsoever on that lol

They wouldnt reset the mcu anyways

[dreamy cedar]

They really should or even better just end this misery

The villain was terrible. Really? You want to erase an entire universe? Can you possibly put the bar any lower than that?

A story can never reach over 30 films unless it becomes an anthology where the films are unrelated

[dreamy cedar]

Oh no you want to destroy all the universes sounds so scary but wait where will you get food from?

[indigo geyser]

One piece fans be like 🤨

[dreamy cedar]

The humour and action in this feels like it was written by 14 year old boys

Swear word funny

[smoky vapor]

Ive always wanted to watch that show but the ep count is scary

[dreamy cedar]

Sword through body funny

[dreamy cedar]

I happen to be one of the anime anyway. Great show.

[indigo geyser]

Surprisingly it took me a long time to get to it, but each saga is like an entire anime story on its own, they feed into the overall narrative

it’s mad creative

[dreamy cedar]

Is this the deadpool chat or the one piece chat

[indigo geyser]

If u do watch skip filler episodes

[dreamy cedar]

No hate but I don’t think this is on topic

[indigo geyser]

I’m sorry officer

[dreamy cedar]

It’s okay

[dreamy cedar]

Don’t worry I am not saying anything more about one piece.

I just wanted to discuss this movie because I think it’s a really interesting reflection on modern movies

[dreamy cedar]

But not in a good way. Jokes at the most inappropriate moments is one of the biggest issues with modern movies.

[dreamy cedar]

PLEASEEEE THIS IS SO TRUEEEE

I HATE WHEN THERES AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT AND SOME FUCKING SHIT JOKE UNDERPINS IT

[solemn wasp]

Okay now I want this 😁

[dreamy cedar]

immediately turns me off from the movie mostly

Aqua man 2 and Kung fu panda 4 are the biggest offenders.

[dreamy cedar]

I remember the eternals had this problem

The amount of corny jokes at supposedly serious moments was crazy in that thing

[dreamy cedar]

Good thing I never watched that movie.

[smoky vapor]

deadpool was never going to be big and deep, it was gonna be thin and fun without a lot of substance

thats fine for a fun popcorn flick

[dreamy cedar]

I mean I like mindless entertainment too I just didn’t find this specific movie funny.

[dreamy cedar]

This movie isn’t even really fun

The characters aren’t compelling and the humour doesn’t work for me at least

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/lecinephiles/status/1819151851662856574

[dreamy cedar]

Would have improved the movie honestly

[random token]

is there any proof at all that this is real

when in the movie would it have even happened

[coarse ginkgo]

Did you read it

[random token]

yes

sounds like it was from the scene with the tva agents im the void

that we saw in the trailer

the scene that had mac's cameo

that was cut entirely

if this page of screenplay is even real that is

[coarse ginkgo]

Are you sure you read it

[random token]

i did in fact read it

is that one of those parody accounts

when i tap on the link it doesnt work

[dreamy cedar]

Damn there was even a poll? Who would know a simple movie section would spark so much controversy?

[bronze hawk]

I feel like all of the cameos (X-23 being the exception) were interchangeable and could’ve been any other character from the Fox universe - Electra must’ve been low hanging fruit and I doubt she was one of their first options.

My guess is they had a list and pretty much accepted whoever said yes after a certain point

[bronze hawk]

She’s easily one of the worst villains in the MCU

And that’s saying something

[sour night]

She took like 15+ minutes to do her thing while deadpool was fighting the clones bruh

what was she literally doing the whole time

[bronze hawk]

Don’t ask questions

Just accept things as they are

That’s what the writers want you to do

[sour night]

epic fight scene baybeeee !!

don't worry about what the villain was doing the entire time when she entered the tva

honeslty did this movie even need a villain

[bronze hawk]

I don’t think it did

Because they didn’t know how to utilize her

Paradox could’ve been the villain

Even though he was extremely weak too

[sour night]

the tva are assholes for just deciding to get rid of a whole universe just because they felt like it

how did just paradox get arrested, clearly he wasn't the only one who decided everything he did

[bronze hawk]

He was operating off grid

[pulsar dome]

Gubernatorial.

[dreamy cedar]

They are also stupid for that. That plan is so dumb.

[random token]

why are you here if you're just gonna blatantly hate on every aspect of the movie?

the point of this channel is to have meaningful conversations about it

if you have nothing constructive to say then do us all a favor and get tf out

[dreamy cedar]

Sure no problem. Sorry I was in this section too much. I will stop interacting here.

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/FuriousNoah_/status/1819081384457281773

[topaz vessel]

I mean...freedom of speech, amirite?

[random token]

cowl on, shirt off just feels RIGHT

[random token]

freedom of speech doesnt exist here

i think most people do not understand what freedom of speech really means

[tidal saddle]

the execution of that scene was great

[random token]

i have watched it... a lot of times...

FOR THE PLOT OFC

[topaz vessel]

And the nipple-verines.

[random token]

are those not essential plot points?

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Parzival_jay/status/1818884385568956712

[random token]

this movie really knew exactly what its target demographic was

because it takes a very specific type of fan to even understand the significance of channing tatum gambit being in this movie

[topaz vessel]

Points, yes. Plot...also yes.

[topaz vessel]

Sounds more southern that i thought it would.

[tidal saddle]

Glad that Tatum even went through the effort to sound southern. Shows that he really loved Gambit and wanted to play him badly through all those years of bad luck

[random token]

isnt gambit from like louisiana?

[drifting magnet]

Lee see anna. Say it like that

[topaz vessel]

I know, its just...way different from the animated series.

Less suave, more Colonel Sanders.

Imo.

[dreamy cedar]

how is x23 still alive

[random token]

wdym?

[dreamy cedar]

didnt she get eaten by alioth

[random token]

it never showed it

so the movie implies that the tva went to right before that happened

and took everyone out

[sacred ingot]

imagine this is the story of avengers doomsday

[dreamy cedar]

sure ig

[random token]

remember deadpool asked them to save his friends in the void?

[random token]

i saw that

i think it would be a little too similar to the plot of this movie

[dreamy cedar]

too similar

[random token]

i also think theres a good chance doctor strange is the anchor being

[dreamy cedar]

i think its probably gonna be peter

parker

[random token]

could definitely be spidey as well

[sacred ingot]

and if they kill dr doom

[dreamy cedar]

especially now that no one knows who he is

[sacred ingot]

earth 616 would be dead

[dreamy cedar]

what

[sacred ingot]

idk man

just theory

[mental yoke]

I've seen gay sex scenes less gay than the car fight scene in this movie

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool3-fight-wolverine-deadpool-3-deadpool-gif-13668349755166578142

[random token]

real

99% of gay porn is straighter than me right after seeing hugh's abs

[mental yoke]

they was fucking in that car for a whole afternoon and evening

[random token]

day and night they were going at it

[mental yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-jumpscare-deadpool-and-wolverine-wolverine-jumpscare-car-gif-15589033231483828784

[random token]

fnaf reference

[sacred ingot]

not surprised

[mental yoke]

Gay as fuck https://x.com/deadboypunk/status/1818964308706902068?t=APd1u55GqKFsgZH_PZaqZQ&s=19

⨂ (@deadboypunk) on X

I HAVE IT IN GIF FORM!

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 10:57 AM

[sacred ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cavillrine-henry-cavill-wolverine-deadpool-and-wolverine-variant-gif-17155579701838043955

biggest fuck u to DC

[sour night]

I'll admit it was cool and fulfilling to finally of seen him play the role

[sour night]

I'll be honest and say my only thoughts during this scene was "gay sex gay sex gay sex" lmao

[sour night]

That probably got the biggest laugh out of me in the movie, literally fnaf jumpscare

[ashen crypt]

The fight sequences apart from the one with all the Fox characters(lots of camera shake), was chefs kiss.

[glossy gale]

I loved how the credits was a tribute to the 20th Century Fox MCU stuff similarly to the seinfeld finale

[half coyote]

the whole film was a tribute to Fox

[sacred ingot]

no

its diss to fox

[half coyote]

it's a diss to Disney and the MCU. It's a love letter to Fox and their comic book films before the MCU

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/deadpool-wolverine-20th-centruy-fox-xmen-blade-1236090606/

[indigo geyser]

I had thought this was self evident by the on the nose jokes throughout the movie, plus the “subtle” jabs at the mcu execs via paradox, and the whole nexus being thing being made to make fun of marvel and how they’re franchises “die” if there main actor leaves…etc, with guardians it was star lord, mcu arguably Tony…etc

[topaz vessel]

I wonder why. That universe was a mess. Too many mutants with silent cameos that go nowhere.

Don't even remember what Azazel and Psylocke did that was memorable.

Bishop got misused in Days of future past.

And warpath? Nobody knew who he was.

Still waiting on a decent Asian Jubilee.

Nightcrawler shoulda had more screentime.

Along with rogue.

And they did my boy Cyclops rotten.

Do something fun with the mutants, gimme some Arcade, some Mojoworld, some Shi'Ar empire.

Genosha, asteroid M.

Go nuts, Disney! And take your time.

[dreamy cedar]

Why do movies these days need extensive homework to enjoy

What happened to just going to a cinema to enjoy a unique story

Like when I have to watch one movie to enjoy its sequel that’s fine but 20 years worth of movies and tv shows is just ridiculous

[half coyote]

Becasue that's exactly what the MCU is now.

The Fox films were never like that, which is also sort of the point

[half coyote]

So my dad, who has never seen any of the Disney+ shows and has a scattered history with comic book films in general, went to see this yesterday and still enjoyed it. He admitted that he probably missed a lot of the references, and took him a moment to understand the TVA, but he still liked it.

Its just kind of fascinating to me because obviously these films are made assuming the audience has extra knowledge, but still need to be accessible to the people who don't.

[topaz vessel]

It ain't homework if you've followed from the start.

[tidal saddle]

yeah pretty much. Especially with the disney plus shows too...

[half coyote]

like, the idea of a connected and shared universe used to be novel, but now it's just masses of baggage and continuity weighing everything down

[dreamy cedar]

I have and I think the mcu is going nowhere

This is a pretty common thing to say now but at least the infinity saga felt like it was building up to something

[tidal saddle]

honestly the deadpool and wolverine movie has been the movie that I had a ton of fun and where I cared in a long time. Not gonna be interested in anything related to the mcu for the time being

[half coyote]

probably because it wasn't really the MCU. It was the tail end of the Fox comic book films.

the epilogue

the fanfiction that brought the two universes together, but was really about the legacy of the X-Men

[tidal saddle]

plus the amount of creative freedom where it isn't the same copy and paste like with your usually post endgame mcu film. Plus the film is pretty meta too

[half coyote]

I mean, it is still copy/paste to an extent - the villain was memorable due to her powers, but she didn't really have a reason to leave the Void where she was apparently content.

[tidal saddle]

yeah true

in some manner you could say

[half coyote]

and it did retred a lot of the ground covered in the Loki tv show

but it was entertaining and meta with some good cameos.

it'll be the next film, Cap 4, which will decide a lot of the views on the MCU.

either those reshoots will have saved it, or it'll be more phase 5 blandness

[tidal saddle]

yeah since they made bold promises that they want to tread back with the gritty and groundedness of Captain America Winter Soldier

for Cap 4

[half coyote]

it's what killed Black Widow. first 2 acts were pretty great, then they screwed it up with sky bases and surviving falls from massive heights.

[ashen crypt]

Whoever designed the wolverine suit would be ideal for making the batman suit. he makes a perfect blend between comicbookism and practicality of the suit.

[tidal saddle]

And also that poor cgi. I agree, they had solid foundations for those first 2 acts. But also I felt like that movie felt out of place in a world post endgame since it mainly set up her sister

[bronze hawk]

It means I can walk into someone’s house and call their mother a bitch

But they’re within their rights to kick me out

You can call a headmaster a cuck

And he’s within his rights to expel your ass

[indigo geyser]

I think he referring to this server

[bronze hawk]

Oh I know

You can call one of the mods a dickhead

And they can ban your ass

Same logic applies to the server

[zenith galleon]

I think my biggest problem with the film is how inconsistent the tva is

The tva exists outside of time. Meaning from their perspective, each timeline has already played out. That was one of my main problems with Paradox’s plan. It also feels like the writers for deadpool didn’t think most of this through. Plus the idea of anchor beings is stupid. 99% of marvel characters have normal life spans so they’ll die anyway. It raises more questions than answers and I feel like they should’ve just left it alone.

[indigo geyser]

I had thought the reason they were pruning branch timelines prior to Loki season 2 was to force things to “grow” a specific way according to he who remains vision to lead to prevention of multiversal war. TVA don’t have perfect knowledge of Newly branched timelines because they are anomaly and can pop up spontaneously these are things that diverge from he who remains “cannon”. When Loki becomes god of story Loki, the multiverse is allowed to grow and decay naturally, TVA agents are focused on hunting down kang variants…etc.

Based on how tva is portrayed to read events…etc they are an organization and like any hierarchical organization they ain’t “perfectly” organized, they rely on agents to monitor branches, prune…etc and the agents do have free will so they can make mistakes as well.

[indigo geyser]

I do think anchor being which is MCU equivalent of nexus being will get expanded upon further, if they told us exactly how it worked…etc right off rip where would the fun be.

[safe copper]

I don't think you needed a lot of homework for Deadpool 3 though unless of course you haven't seen any Deadpool movies or any Fox X men movies. I think if you have seen past 2 Deadpool movies and some Fox X men movies then that's fine, the rest of the stuff is explained in the movie. Of course I don't expect everyone to have seen the Blade movies or Elekrtra movie or known that Channing Tatum was very close to playing Gambit.

[indigo geyser]

Tbh, could prob make it with just with bare min Deadpool 1-2 and Logan, tho the tva stuff would be overbearing or seem outa nowhere.

I’d think min is, Deadpool 1-2, Logan, Loki S1-2 (or just S1)

[safe copper]

I don't think you even need to see Loki because they explain what TVA does, also the void and Alioth among others.

For a lot of regular viewers TVA is just a organisation in mcu.

[random token]

loki definitely isn't required but could absolutely provide some more context

[indigo geyser]

True

[hexed flume]

So will this reach 1 billion?

[random token]

yes

possibly this weekend

but definitely by next weekend

its already past 600 million

[sour night]

The movie has like the bare minimum for some regular joe to still enjoy it, dumb action, jokes, and seeing two strong men defeat a bad person

That's probably how the kid next to my seat managed to enjoy the movie even if I'm sure he had no idea wtf was going on

[coarse ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/QQ_jvHQM53o?si=t1nBTLia65wqfqZ3

[glossy gale]

this movie made me wanna watch the rest of the Fox MCU

only stuff Ive seen outside of the Deadpool films was X Men Days Of Future Past

only required viewing I did prior was the other 2 deadpool movies

[solemn wasp]

I did 😅

[indigo geyser]

Dark Phoenix is easily the best out of all these movies

amazing story telling,

[solemn wasp]

[indigo geyser]

They didn’t use any cgi

[solemn wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-conan-shinichi-kudo-jimmy-kudo-rachel-moore-ran-mouri-gif-19041502

[indigo geyser]

same with Apocalypse, practical effects were on point

[coarse ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-fake-doctor-gif-13278007

[solemn wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-cute-pussy-cat-gif-15745451

[dreamy cedar]

you sound fun

[harsh mulch]

Well this is okay

[harsh mulch]

Please

Don't do this to yourself

[indigo geyser]

Why they are so much bettet than mcu

[harsh mulch]

That's a lie

Like only four movies are good in the fox universe

The rest is all either mid or absolute garbage

[real monolith]

i liked the 1st xmen movie at release just due to the promise of future films that never once payed off for me

in fact i dont think a single xmen movie has actually captured the essence of the xmen. theyve mostly been pg-13 wolverine films

[sour night]

The top 5 👌 🔥

The only x men movies worth seeing tbh

[solemn wasp]

Always go with classics

[sour night]

I don't really mind the rest of the x men movies for the most part, I just like the universe

[dreamy cedar]

I like the wolverine movies the most

Hugh Jackman is the best thing about that universe

[craggy axle]

I don't know where I heard it but I did hear that the movie was going to be game-changing for the MCU, but I didn't feel like it was at all.

[dreamy cedar]

It changed nothing about the mcu

[craggy axle]

The Fox Marvel movies are like almost exactly half good and half bad for me

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/LESB0B0MB/status/1819294168142786846

forgot that TJ Miller was his best bro

[craggy axle]

I thought it was funny that they brought back Shatterstar

[brazen prairie]

Who's got two thumbs and about to see Deadpool and Wolverine for the 3rd time

[random token]

i mean ryan reynolds said the opposite, he made it clear this movie wasnt setting up another movie

however

concepts like anchor beings introduced in this movie

will be very important moving forward

[craggy axle]

I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear about anchor beings again.

[half coyote]

i'm sure it was Feige who said game changer

[craggy axle]

I definitely think it was just buzzwords and didn't really actually have much meaning behind it

For all I know they were just saying it's a game changer because Deadpool is in the MCU now, and that's it

[half coyote]

or the X-men

honestly though, I wish they would keep the X-Men in their own universe away from the Avengers etc.

like, why would the public accept gods and big green monsters, but not someone with ice powers etc?

The X-Men have a very specific niche of allegory for minorities and social classes. Feels weird to mix that the established MCU

[real monolith]

my dizziest dream for future xmen movies is spiderverse style, hard R rated animation. wont happen but we would love it

[warped nova]

https://fixupx.com/bvengeance267/status/1818833716942106962 oh i loved this line lol

[random token]

when asked about the anchor being of 616 feige said it's a very good thing that people are thinking about it

[random token]

because unlike the gods, mutants (in the eyes of some people) are a threat to the future of humanity

humans feel like mutants will make them obsolete

and therefore fear them

[mental yoke]

https://x.com/portermuaddib04/status/1819528592835203207?t=ytX6WrbY7Sf6l3WqPuBDtA&s=19

Joegan (@portermuaddib04) on X

wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 12:19 AM

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-deadpool-and-wolverine-remy-lebeau-cards-gif-16403656707859274916

[half coyote]

Wait, did they actually build that?

[smoky vapor]

Yeah, they did a good few practical pieces in this. not everything but a good bit

leak photo but the film’s out now so its fine to send

[half coyote]

see, my default these days is just to asume everything is CGI

[sour night]

unfortunately, same

I just assumed a big piece of white ground the actors step on was a real thing

and the background was greenscreen

[craggy axle]

Ah, good to know

[tidal saddle]

seeing a lot of people referencing the older x men fox films and other stuff talked in twitter and youtube

due to this movie

and also blade ofc

[safe copper]

The mid credit scenes with the behind the scenes stuff of various X men and also FF movies was so great, loved that part.

I still haven't gotten any good answers on why Laura (who's from Fox X men universe) was in the void and she has been there recently too because you don't age in the void as we saw in Loki show.

[tidal saddle]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxKDaz0qBbq5mhx0nFfX4FKhq6veIuEqxR?si=07f7WTK_y8srntbd

huh, so how strong is the guy who absorbed the human torch's powers?

[half coyote]

he didn't absorb his powers. He's Pyro and can control fire.

[half coyote]

https://youtu.be/Xenstc6mHWs?si=-jk21O0Ws4ipKUO1&t=362