🎥 Deadpool & Wolverine

[echo bough]

How do people think that's blasphemy? People getting upset over nothing😭

[strange spoke]

HAHAHAHAGAA

I’m Christian, and they’re being goofy as fuck tbh

It’s virtue signaling ignore it

BRO

1

[warped nova]

Lmaooo love this

[tidal saddle]

MARVEL JESUS LMAOOOOO

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cowl on, shirt off is the best combo in my opinion

[warped nova]

https://fixupx.com/vancityreynolds/status/1817602441862324629 we done it

[velvet siren]

bro it's my opinion

[warped nova]

^^^

I gave it a 4/5, so pretty close. If the villain had more substance I feel it would been a 4.5 too.

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i'd probably give it a 4/5 too

my ranking of the trilogy would be:
deadpool
deadpool & wolverine
deadpool 2

i think i may have enjoyed deadpool & wolverine the most, but the first deadpool definitely has the best story and the most rewatchability imo

[half coyote]

origin stories kind of are though

[random token]

being the first deadpool movie gave it some major advantages

because the whole concept was still novel

[half coyote]

and it's a small story. It's about a guy who seeks revenge for what was done to him because he wants his girlfriend back.

nothing world ending, nothing huge at stake. Just personal problems.

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it is definitely the strongest story of the trilogy

[smoky vapor]

Its my fave of the trilogy definitely

[topaz vessel]

Amything remotely funnier than the DP2 post credits?

Cuz that was some funny shit.

The parts where he fixes stuff.

[smoky vapor]

This film was funny af

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d&p post credits had me laughing pretty hard

[warped nova]

Same

[strange spoke]

Did you bring your nerd sock?

Cause I brought mine

Wade was saucing my up ngl

🥵

[smoky vapor]

Oh sorry framer i didn’t see your ping

discord never notified me

lol

I really liked this, was very fun+funny.

I like a lot of the style on the fight choreo and visuals too

(though one fight scene in partic, the sieging of Cassandra’s lair, felt much messier than the rest)

[strange spoke]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

[mental yoke]

yeah this film was definitely the most emotionally strongest film in the trilogy

[strange spoke]

LONG LIVE QUEEN KARAMA

[warped nova]

Oh heck yeah I did. I was nerding throughout. Ape shit

[smoky vapor]

I admittedly never saw the Blade movies so didn’t recognize Blade immediately, my dad whispered who he was into my ear lol.

I recognized every other cameo though

I really wish they hadn’t spoiled Laura’s part of the movie lol. I didn’t even see that trailer but just saw chatter of it

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i went so crazy for johnny storm, had to explain who he was to my gf after the movie lol

[mental yoke]

Stewing on the movie just made me love the opening more lmao

Deadpool dancing to NSYNC while caving in TVA agents skulls in is amazing

People were disappointed they didn't do the gag where they insult the directors and stuff in the opening credits but honestly it would've been pretty lame considering they've done it twice already lol

It was undeniably a creative and stylish opening

Posting this for all our eyes

[tidal saddle]

yeah it would've been greater if Cassandra Drias (female Charles Xavier) had much more sauce. And yeah pretty much a 4 out of 5 movie. Def a mcu that has made me happy in a long time

[tidal saddle]

yeah me and my dad where the only ones who got insanely excited to see blade on screen

[half coyote]

I liked her powers though.

nicely freakly. I wonder if the actresses fingers really are that long? They seemed extra long

[blissful cove]

https://boxd.it/6Z6AyH

Lmk what yall think bc idk i fucking absolutely loved it

[empty sand]

Personally i don’t get it. It’s a secular film not a dove award nominee for best family picture

I love Jesus too but this shit shouldn’t be given that much time to be mad about

[blissful cove]

They need to realize he is marvel Jesus plain and simples 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tidal saddle]

yeah she was freaky with her powers. But her motivations are simply being just oh yeah do evil and lack nuance which is pretty much some mcu villains. But then again, she doesn't entirely hinder the films performance

[half coyote]

she's an obstacle to overcome and a reason for the TVA to let everything stay

[ashen crypt]

My ★★★★ review of Deadpool & Wolverine on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/6Z8T1B

[half coyote]

Oh, didn't know it was a meme

[smoky vapor]

My question is how the fuck did DS2 open higher than this

Like they have the same amount of cameos basically

[tidal saddle]

https://youtu.be/r33NL0OeTnE?si=MWMPsoCdi0cxQtXO

Man seeing him fully dawn his wolverine outfit was so hype

[earnest raptor]

Doctor Strange 2 is a much better movie

Hope this helps

Also it opened right off the back of No Way Home, which Doctor Strange was in

[smoky vapor]

True i forgot it opened off of NWH lol

[tidal saddle]

yeah forgot they had that little teaser for it

[warped nova]

I audibly said eeee when it happened

[teal crag]

doctor strange also wasn't r rated

[real monolith]

DS2 not even close to being as good as DP3

[earnest raptor]

Lol

DS2 looks like a real movie

[real monolith]

looked like shit to me

[earnest raptor]

There are proper scenes, good effects, set-pieces with ideas and twists in them

Deadpool is just Ryan Reynolds doing bad standup on a soundstage

[earnest raptor]

Sorry to hear it

[real monolith]

see, if you dont find Reynolds funny, you should have known enough to not go see the movie

[earnest raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-stephen-strange-wanda-illuminati-gif-26022882

[earnest raptor]

I found him funny in Deadpool 2, which I really like

[earnest raptor]

https://youtu.be/bIkEXtdNGKM?si=2ngitkM22owjutz8

Nothing in Deadpool & Wolverine compares to a frame of this

[real monolith]

every fight in DP3 was better than any fight in DS2

[earnest raptor]

I love fights where neither character can be hurt

Just stabbing and shooting each other till another plot point arrives

[real monolith]

oh they can be hurt, they just heal fast

[earnest raptor]

Exactly

Zero consequence nonsense

Can you tell me what you don’t like about the clip from DS2?

Or have you actually seen it?

[real monolith]

ive seen the movie, i thought it was shit

[earnest raptor]

Ok

[real monolith]

was excited for it

[earnest raptor]

Well developed opinion thank you

Really understand what it does wrong for you now

[real monolith]

i havent seen it since release and only saw it once

i just remember not liking it, not worth a 2nd viewing for me

[earnest raptor]

That applies to a lot of movies

For most people

Most people don’t watch movies more than once

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the urge to learn this choreography

[half coyote]

DS2 is a mess of a movie, visually and plot-wise. The thing was being rewritten as it was being filmed and it showed

[tidal saddle]

Honestly I saw the film as a clash of ideas between Sam Raimi and Kevin Feige

[warped nova]

It’s quite literally one of the best MCU movies, and I’m not even playing.

[half coyote]

which is one of the reasons the film is a mess

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more a clash between sam raimi and the first director

i think if one director had made the whole movie it would have worked better

but i do also quite like doctor strange 2

[half coyote]

like, it has it's moments (and honestly, was surprisingly gory) but a lot of stuff just sort of happens.

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i wish raimi had been the director from the beginning

[half coyote]

Strange himself doesn't really have an arc and he's supposed to be the main character

[tidal saddle]

Yeah overall DS2 was mediocre to me. Some moments I liked, some that I don’t

[random token]

it did feel kinda like they were just making a wanda movie

i liked it

but i think there are things they could have done differently for me to love it

[bronze hawk]

I wish they’d stuck with Derrickson

Who wanted to write a legit horror film

But Feige and him couldn’t get on the same page

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a legit horror doctor strange movie would have been so fire

[bronze hawk]

I know but they’ve always been extremely risk averse so it’s obviously a no go

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/vancityreynolds/status/1817910224969167006

[strange spoke]

I think Deadpool in Wolverines writing worked on a level where it both embraced Deadpools meta nature and used it in a way the was cohesive to the films plot andd world

The whole idea of Marvel Fox being this forgotten world of heros that are literally being phased out of existence is such a cool idea, and seeing these characters live out there list bit of existance going out in there own terms was well executed

Now I won

i won't say it's perfect.

Sure, the plot has alot of contrivances

But I think Ryan and Hughs dynamic sells the film and gives it a strong core.

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i agree with this 100%

the movie would not have worked without wolverine

[strange spoke]

That is to say I actually bought these two, and by the end I bought them as becoming freinds

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the dynamic between the two is the best part and the heart of the film

the way they each taught the other something

[strange spoke]

AND TBH

It actually used some of the Cameos with reason

Some of the fan service actually had a point

Granted did it ulitilize it AS WELL as say Spider verse of NWH

No

But they're was a point that was being got at.

I look at the Marvels and I see shit like random singing scenes, that 1. Don't fit the characters, and Could easily have been cut.

@coarse ginkgo

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oh i fucking loved the singing scene lol

[strange spoke]

In what?

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in the marvels

[strange spoke]

Andrew

I mean this in the nicest of way

To each there own

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i thought it was very silly

as long as i have fun watching a movie im gonna like it

i can recognize flaws and make criticisms

[strange spoke]

I thought it was too silly and felt like it came outta no where.

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but if the movie entertains me than it was worth watching in my opinion

[strange spoke]

Like a lemon in a milkshake

Well...I guess that isn't accuratre because there is such a thing as lemon flavored milkshakes

But you get the drift

If I'm gonnna make a more accuratre comparrison I guess I can bring up 2022's She Hulk

The concepts are similar, with both having a 4th wall breaking protagonist in there respective leads.

Now, the way meta humor was used in this I'd say worked well with the plot without damaging suspesntion of disblielef

20th Century fox's obsorbtoin is not only a visual gag but it is a diegitic element to the world as it is litterally an entire universe that has been deaprecated.

So therefore, when it comes down to it It's able to flirt with the Meta nature of it without undermining the "reality" of the ficiton.

[random token]

i too can lightly tap the fourth wall

the proposal

[strange spoke]

LMFAOOO

Remember when he was taking him across the street “He’ll regenerate” “rEgRnErATE?”

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"how fast do you regenerate?"

"...regenerate?"
😭😭😭😭

[strange spoke]

AND WHEN LOGAN CROSSED EITH THE DOG

LOL

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i love that peter is just a nexus being who is loved by deadpool in every single universe

[safe copper]

Huh ya

[meager cosmos]

Peter best character fr

[random token]

real

we all deserve a peter

[indigo geyser]

Jeez it’s already at 400 mil+ in world wide box office, just a little over the budget for Captain America Brave new world

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRou1Q8n/

[mental yoke]

Yeah they're actually that long

[smoky vapor]

Wait logic issue
Wouldn’t TVA not be pruning variants at this point lol

[mental yoke]

Emma Corrin is lanky

[smoky vapor]

Based on Loki’s events

[mental yoke]

The department that Deadpool was brought into was doing things off the books

So they were the ones still pruning

[smoky vapor]

No i mean like when B-15 shouts “deadpool variant!” at the end lol

[mental yoke]

Well I guess they probably still have to prune extremely dangerous individuals lol

[smoky vapor]

I forgot her actual name

[mental yoke]

Deadpool is extremely dangerous

Nah they never say her name, she's just B-15 lol

[random token]

TVA exists outside of time, so variants that were pruned at any point will still be popping up in random places in the void

[random token]

this too

there are still rogue agents who prefer the old ways

damn so early estimates said this movie would make 165mil domestically in opening weekend

then after the previews the estimate was 205

and it ended up making 211mil

exceeding initial estimates by almost 50 million dollars

actually insane

highest ever domestic opening for a r rated movie by almost 80 million

[indigo geyser]

Loki Season 2 should address this, at end of season 2, ||Loki becomes god of story Loki, TVA hierarchy gets overhauled they do not prune anymore||

[topaz vessel]

They thought the same thing about the Beatles once. More things change, more they stay the same.

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/marvelstudios/status/1817968690366923076

[fervent orchid]

https://x.com/salmoncurse/status/1817390469460140445?t=tANoeFCL5Ht27zurAJX8kA&s=19

grilled cheese maniac (@salmoncurse) on X

Twitter · Jul 28, 2024, 2:43 AM

[mental yoke]

this scene was wild someone was actually able to cook deadpool so bad it shut him up https://x.com/Parzival_jay/status/1817801095869087896

🌌 𝒥𝒶𝓎 🌌 #FreePalestine🇵🇸 (@Parzival_jay) on X

Obsessed with the dialog line delivery and sound and roughness Hugh has in this scene

Twitter · Jul 29, 2024, 5:55 AM

[strange spoke]

Sorry Naya Poorly written

Worst scene of the year

It's only cameos

0/10

[random token]

this movie literally has no story and clearly none of the cameos serve an actual fulfilling narrative purpose or anything

if you like this movie you are a 12 year old nerd who defends billion dollar corporations

its actually illegal to like this movie

[mental yoke]

the cameos were egregious but i enjoyed the movie

[random token]

im being sarcastic lol

are they even cameos if they are in the movie for an entire act and actually push the narrative forward?

like elektra blade and gambit feel like they are just supporting roles

even johnny storm gets a surprising amount of screentime

[tidal saddle]

honestly I was screaming so hard when Blade came back, and I was glad to see Channing Tatum to finally fulfill his wish of finally becoming gambit

[random token]

blade had so much aura it actually needs to be studied

[tidal saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-gif-18477867

so sick to see this man back on screen

[random token]

especially everything that went down with blade trinity

[tidal saddle]

yeah that movie was ass

my dad was stoked to see him again as well

[topaz vessel]

Why the hell doesent the MCU use him.

Elsewhere, i mean.

Mahershela Ali cannot possibly know more martial arts than him.

[half coyote]

I agree. They all had a reason to be there.

[tidal saddle]

https://vxtwitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1818010715015520315

[indigo geyser]

https://youtu.be/7wNLH4KJ8wQ?si=C8pGR8vefi61ZqgR

[tidal saddle]

https://youtu.be/Eo-KmOd3i7s?si=Ma2YaHct9j28Q4BS

lol the video title

[warped nova]

If people just are in this channel to shit on the film. Just leave. That said, if you want to have genuine conversations about its flaws do so in a mature manner. God help you people lol

[tidal saddle]

yeah fr, saw people shitting on it a ton earlier

[smoky vapor]

Happens with big franchises

[tidal saddle]

ofc

[warped nova]

Yeah imma just banning people grr angy

[random token]

feels weird for people who claim to dislike something so much to spend so much time talking about it lol

[warped nova]

Same thoughts. They just love to squeeze their hate however they can. Like a sponge

[frozen summit]

imagine being Channing Tatum and having to wait a full 10 years to play Gambit

[tidal saddle]

lol

but glad that he finally had the chance to finally play gambit

[frozen summit]

great costume too

[tidal saddle]

even though its just for fun, appreciate that he went thru the effort of having that southern french accent the character is known for

[topaz vessel]

Imagine Wesley snipes waiting 20 years to come back to Blade, 5 of which were a prison sentence.

[frozen summit]

also did they do the black sclera and red pupil effect with his eyes like they do in the comics? I think I missed it

[tidal saddle]

for gambit, I don't think so, but overall rad portrayal

[frozen summit]

also the Gambit costume has the same feel as the X-Men Apocalypse Psylocke costume for me in texture

[tidal saddle]

oh yeah she was in the film too as well

glad that the film also mentioned some of the side villains of the older xmen fox films

[random token]

i've seen some people call it corny but personally i loved it, it looked so good

[random token]

someone interviewed wesley snipes about being in deadpool & wolverine recently and he revealed that his entire 20 year feud with ryan reynolds has just been a running joke the whole time and that they are actually friends 😭😭😭

which is CRAZY commitment to the bit lol

so ryan literally just texted wesley asking him to do it

[tidal saddle]

damn 20 years for a made up beef that I've never heard 💀

[random token]

oh it was a pretty well known beef for a lot of people 😭

which was why blade being in the movie was such a big deal for a lot of people

because wesley snipes has very openly talked about hating ryan reynolds for the past two decades 😭

[bold canopy]

I need someone to explain why this movie randomly has some of the best fight choreography out of like the last 10 MCU movies

the fight choreography and general directing is absolutely insane

[tidal saddle]

well its directed by the guy who did the kingsman films if I'm correct

wait no

the cinematographer is the one from kingsman

[indigo geyser]

It feels that way because aside from GoTG3’s one take towards end of film, phase 5 and latter half of phase 4 haven’t had notable fights aside from NWH, Shang chi.

[bold canopy]

idk who did it but seriously the fight choreography is absolutely mental

its some real real fucking high tier shit

I couldn't be more happy

[tidal saddle]

all I know is the dude who directed this directed the night of the museum films, real stteel, and free guy, a film that had ryan reynolds in

[bold canopy]

this film relished so hard in being what it is and I love that so much and I respect the MCU so much for allowing Ryan Reynolds to do his shit

[indigo geyser]

The one take towards end of movie with the bus in D&W was amazing

[bold canopy]

yeah it was pretty stellar I was shocked

[indigo geyser]

The sound track for the movie was on point as well

[bold canopy]

I kept waiting for the film to do a fakeout and just skip the big action scenes but instead it totally just reveled in the fun

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THAT LONG SHOT WAS SO GOOD

[bold canopy]

also this is actually just the best version of deadpool. I like this performance far more than the first two deadpool movies

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i love this movie because it advertised itself as being something, and it completely delivered

no false promises

[bold canopy]

I swear Ryan Reynolds stepped up his game so hard for his first real MCU film

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it promised to entertain me, and god damnit i was entertained

[bold canopy]

like you could tell he knew the job and you could feel the sheer hype he was feeling the whole movie

bro felt it so hard

I can't even complain. It did everything I could've ever asked for and somehow more lmao

[random token]

same

i went in with expectations and they were all met or exceeded

[bold canopy]

not only did the MCU allow a hardcore R rated film, they gave Ryan Reynolds the budget and freedom to just do his shit

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the action was amazing

[bold canopy]

actual respect

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the comedy was better than ever

and the cameos were done so well

[bold canopy]

this is the type of movie that legit undoes the "MCU is dead/dying" narrative by itself

[indigo geyser]

The movie had good tie ins for those that understood Loki s1 and s2 it makes watching those feel rewarding getting to see those connect to bigger mcu

[bold canopy]

god and the deepcuts too as a comic nerd

[random token]

you can really tell that the people making the movie truly love and care about each and every character

the movie truly is a love letter to the fox era of marvel

and a glimpse of whats to come

[bold canopy]

seeing Cassandra in the MCU was actually insane to me

I never ever ever thought we'd see Cassandra fucking Nova in the MCU lmfao

[indigo geyser]

Oh yeah, fantastic 4 first steps looks like the cast will have immaculate chemistry

[bold canopy]

nah I'm so goddamn stoked for the MCU now holy hell what a massive fucking injection of hype and hope

[random token]

i saw some of the footage they showed at sdcc, and oh my god they are cooking

[indigo geyser]

Yes it was so cool to see her, wish they wouldn’t have axed her, I think the mcu has bad habit of killing of real cool villains in one movie

[random token]

there was some test footage showing reed richards and all the f4

they look so good

[bold canopy]

Shes too strong for the MCU tbh

[random token]

and i completely understand why they cast pedro now

[bold canopy]

she warps the scaling so hard

[indigo geyser]

Like with gorr from Thor love and thunder

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not to mention that he and vanessa kirby already have SO MUCH chemistry

[bold canopy]

wait they revealed the cast? Who's playing who?

[indigo geyser]

True, but there are other villains marvel done this with like Gorr, Kang

[bold canopy]

Gorr was wasted entirely as was the entire storyline

[indigo geyser]

lol I did very much enjoy Thor love and thunder

[bold canopy]

but they gave Thor's single most beloved and respected comic storyline to a hack director who had no interest in doing it and didn't care about the source material

[random token]

pedro pascal is reed richards, vanessa kirby is sue storm, joseph quinn is johnny storm and dude from the bear who's name i forget is the thing

[bold canopy]

Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards is the type of casting only the MCU would find

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in the footage they showed like a one second shot of galactus

[bold canopy]

which means he's probably perfectly casted

[random token]

he is fully comic accurate

[bold canopy]

and somehow was just born to play the role

[indigo geyser]

Picture of his eyes

[tidal saddle]

I got the entire teaser from a friend for fantastic 4, idk if Meller is still okay with SDCC leaks

[bold canopy]

I however do not agree with casting RDJ for Dr Doom

but you know what

[indigo geyser]

Yes, wish we got to see galactus full body 😭

[bold canopy]

fuck it bro the MCU has never missed when it came to casting

so shit he'll probably be a perfect Dr Doom

[random token]

yeah im not gonna post it here because its technically not supposed to be publicly available, but i did see it

[indigo geyser]

Didn’t like it at first but they can do some amazing things with this, for example RDJ has history with actors, so it will be painful to see pepper Potts and Peter see someone who was there friend be an antagonist

[random token]

i saw some people complaining that galactus is too big to be able to peak into a skyscraper like he did in the footage, but they seem to forget that galactus canonically can change his size at will

[bold canopy]

man if someone told me the first MCU Deadpool movie would be the funniest and best acted/best written of all the Deadpool movies I'd have probably rolled my eyes

[bold canopy]

I wonder how they'll do it

[tidal saddle]

honestly I'm glad the film got full creative control from Kevin Feige

[bold canopy]

RDJ as it turns out fucking adores the MCU (Seems like most of the big actors just love being in it which is cool)

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i think the whole dynamic of the biggest threat to the multiverse having the face of earth's mightiest hero will allow for some really amazing things

[bold canopy]

so I'm kinda hype to see how they do it

[indigo geyser]

He prob a fantastic 4 universe version of victor von doom,

[bold canopy]

yeah that's my assumption

[random token]

thats my guess, i think we will 100% see him in first steps

[indigo geyser]

I feel bad for him, he’s def been spread to thin

[random token]

especially since the f4 are confirmed to be in doomsday and secret wars

[bold canopy]

they got fucked out of Kang (big RIP) and so they're gonna pivot to RDJ playing the FF4's version of Dr Doom and we'll see them merge with the main timeline at the end

[random token]

the thunderbolts also seem to have a key role in setting up the next avengers films

[bold canopy]

Honestly its such an insanely smart and well planned out pivot it almost feels like Feige had a backup scenario planned for if anything happened with the Kang plan

[indigo geyser]

I think Loki S2 resolution for Kang is a tennative ending, I do hope they expand further on Kang at some point

[random token]

my guess is its called "thunderbolts*" because theyre gonna end up being the dark avengers

[bold canopy]

the thunderbolts is a weird deep cut too so I'm excited to see how they do them

the MCU's willingness to adapt and do weird lesser known characters and groups is what I love about the MCU

[indigo geyser]

I’m looking forward to John walker, such an underrated character in that falcon and winter soldier.

[random token]

yeah i think loki s2 ended in a way that allows them to close the book on kang, you can definitely tell that they have been considering pivoting from kang for a while now

[random token]

SAME, definitely the character im most excited to see

also sentry

[bold canopy]

we aren't getting some commercialized normie pandering barebones comic adaptation in the MCU. We're just getting the fucking Marvel comics but film adapted

[random token]

super hyped for sentry

[bold canopy]

they're doing fucking Sentry?

No shot

That'd be like the MCU doing hyperion

[random token]

watching deadpool & wolverine and seeing that the russos are attached gives me 100% faith in doomsday and secret wars

[sacred ingot]

i have finally watched it

[indigo geyser]

I do still think we are getting loose adaptions for example D&W is a loose adaption of Deadpool kills marvel

[random token]

yep, he's in thunderbolts*

[sacred ingot]

and it lived up to the hype

[bold canopy]

holy fuck

that means we can get World War Hulk...

in the MCU

[indigo geyser]

Pretty sure it’s already planned

[random token]

they seem to have been setting up world war hulk for a while

with skaar being in she-hulk

[indigo geyser]

Oof that means she hulk is a required watch lol

[bold canopy]

Oh god I might not survive seeing Worldbreaker Hulk and Sentry going at it like freaks until they both burn out

that shit is the hypest moment in any Hulk comic storyline

[random token]

i wouldnt say so, hulk just introduces him for two seconds in the last scene

[bold canopy]

they adapt that and the MCU can simply never fuck up in my eyes ever again

[random token]

this is 100% by far the most excited i have been about the future of the mcu since before endgame

[bold canopy]

I wonder if they're gonna keep Hugh Jackman as Wolverine for the MCU

based on how Deadpool and Wolverine ended

[indigo geyser]

Hopefully no

[random token]

for the first time in years, i actually see a clear vision for what marvel is trying to do with its movies in the next couple years

[sacred ingot]

im still finding why rdj instead of cillian murphy for dr doom?

[random token]

because its fucking rdj

[bold canopy]

Yeah Cillian Murphy was my pocket pick too for Dr Doom

[indigo geyser]

They should keep Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine for the universe which was specified for Fox, and a new Wolverine for 616

[bold canopy]

but RDJ has openly said he loves the MCU and that its forever a piece of him. So that man is probably the most committed actor to the MCU

[random token]

im sure he'll pop up in secret wars, but the man is approaching 60. let someone else take up the mantle

[indigo geyser]

Same lol

[sacred ingot]

im not mad but what happens if dr doom takes off his mask

they would see iron man

[random token]

they have been trying to figure out a way for rdj to cone back for years

[sacred ingot]

not dr doom

[indigo geyser]

I’m hoping we get wolverine in captain america 4

[bold canopy]

RDJ himself has been trying to figure out a way to come back. He revealed a while back in an interview he's wanted to come back for a long time now

and deeply misses it

[random token]

a year or two ago i heard that they wanted rdj to play superior iron man and be the villain of secret wars

[sacred ingot]

why

[random token]

rdj has been planned to be the villain of secret wars since it was announced

[bold canopy]

One of Wolverine's most iconic comic moments is him fighting Captain America

they have a long running history

[random token]

they just pivoted and had him be doom instead of superior iron man

[bold canopy]

together

[indigo geyser]

A plot point from cap 4 || is the world govs trying to “fight” over tiamut decaying body which has adimantium on it ||

[bold canopy]

they served in WW2 together

[sacred ingot]

isnt wolverine and captain in different universe

[random token]

im so excited to see 616-native x-men

[bold canopy]

yes but multiverse means all things are possible

[random token]

though with monica in another universe

[bold canopy]

I still don't know how they are doing it

[random token]

i think secret wars will end with two or more universes colliding

essentially allowing for a soft reboot

[bold canopy]

because I thought they were gonna do a reverse House of M in Wandavision but they didn't iirc

[sacred ingot]

kinda makes sense i mean look at deadpool and wolverine

[bold canopy]

and so far they've not set up any way for mutants to exist in the MCU yet

[random token]

where they can recast a bunch of iconic roles, and have some actors return

[indigo geyser]

Which kinda connects with black panther wakanda forever, where the United States wanted vibranium but is now barred from getting that material since Narmors people and Shuri won’t let them get it, so they’d def wanna have a monopoly on adimantium.

[bold canopy]

they even made Kamala Khan not a mutant/inhuman

[random token]

i mean ms marvel as a confirmed mutant in 616

[bold canopy]

Oh fuck that's right I forgot

that is revealed

[random token]

yeah

so more and more mutants are gonna start popping up i think

namor is also a mutant

[bold canopy]

Have they revealed if Wanda caused the mutants to appear?

I assumed they'd do reverse House of M

[random token]

wanda had nothing to do with it

[bold canopy]

that was always my theory on how they'd handle it

[sacred ingot]

imagine the next movie of deadpool he kills a different avengers

[bold canopy]

surely they can't just decide they've alwaays existed in the MCU timeline

they'll need a big event to create them

[random token]

honestly i dont think theres gonna be another deadpool movie

[indigo geyser]

Nope cause namor existed before wanda vision /multiverse of madness s

[random token]

nope thats exactly what they are doing

[sacred ingot]

dont jinx it

[bold canopy]

its already been confirmed they want to do Deadpool and Spider-man

[random token]

mutants are just slowly popping up

[sacred ingot]

which spider man

[bold canopy]

that seems questionable to me. The MCU spans too far of a timeline to make sense for mutants to ahve always been there

Fury would've known about them

they'd have been known

[indigo geyser]

Tom holland 🤞🏾

[random token]

im so excited to see tom spidey get the black suit

[sacred ingot]

nah i was thinking like tobey or andrew

[indigo geyser]

Yes

[random token]

i assume its gonna happen in secret wars like the comics

[sacred ingot]

true

[bold canopy]

bro if they do anytthing I hope to god they keep Sony's Venom cause I actually think he's perfectly casted

[indigo geyser]

That would work too, I’m very biased to holland.

[random token]

it would be funny if they went the retconned comic way and had the symbiote briefly attach to deadpool before attaching to spidey

[sacred ingot]

yeh he is the main the spider man now

[bold canopy]

if was Kevin Feige and wanted to take anything of value from Sony's dreadful mis-use of the Spider-man's broader universe, it'd be just grabbing their Venom and Carnage and dipping lmfao

[sacred ingot]

im just waiting on the amazing spider man 3

[indigo geyser]

I hope they change the colors and venom personality slightly, I haven’t been huge fan of Tom Hardy, his venom is too silly

[bold canopy]

Venom has always been silly tbh

ever since he moved to an anti-hero role

he's been kinda on the goofier side

[indigo geyser]

Hopefully they give us comic accurate carnage colors and design and personality

[sacred ingot]

tom hardy venom is like deadpool and wolverine a rom com without the sex

[bold canopy]

we even have anti-venom and agent venom

I think Tom Hardy is perfect Venom casting if not just because he actually voices Venom too in those movies

and his Venom voice is perfect

[indigo geyser]

James Norton would play the perfect Cletus Kassidy and Carnage, they need to nab him before he gets too old

[sacred ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-rolling-down-the-street-like-a-turd-in-the-wind-venom-movie-marvel-tom-hardy-gif-19400127

[bold canopy]

ill be real I think Sony actually perfectly casted Carnage

it's kinda hard to beat that

that was always everyone's dream carnage

forever

and they did it

[random token]

yeah i dont see the mcu trying to redo carnage

[sacred ingot]

if i would rank venom movie

the first one is better

[bold canopy]

bro I can't believe we got comic accurate Gambit in the MCU

if even for a brief moment

I'm so hyped

[indigo geyser]

Idk, but for me they ruined his eyes, the black inking around it didn’t look right also, they made him look to similar to venom

[sacred ingot]

bro i was laughing the accent that channing tatum is trying to do

[indigo geyser]

This carnage is what I was expecting

[bold canopy]

im talking just the actual actor

not how they adapted Carnage

they totally botched Carnage in Venom 2

but casting wise it was perfect casting

[bold canopy]

I kinda hated the Carnage tease in Sony's Spider-man 2 game

I have so many weird issues with that game's story and treatment of Spider-man

I could rant for a while

[sacred ingot]

they teased it?

[indigo geyser]

He was a bit too old for my liking, and the wig was so 😭, James Norton acting in Happy Valley had me on the edge of my seat when he portrays a serial criminal

[random token]

yes

[bold canopy]

Yes

[random token]

i believe theyre making a solo venom game similar to miles morales

[sacred ingot]

damn

[bold canopy]

it was the big reveal of that storyline

[random token]

carnage will probably be the villain of that

[bold canopy]

But I have serious issues with how they've handled a lot of things in that game

[sacred ingot]

now there is reason to buy ps5 now if they make that

[random token]

i have nearly 100 hours in spider-man 2

[bold canopy]

from not liking Kraven's treatment to them wiping out basically the entire fucking sinister 7

[indigo geyser]

Oh fr? That was prob my fave adaption of venom they did out of the movies and games

[bold canopy]

like they off-screened all of spider-man's most iconic villains

[random token]

theres one level in spider-man 2 where you play as venom and it is genuinely so glorious

[bold canopy]

I hate the idea of making Harry venom

[indigo geyser]

I get that in ideal scenario they’d have done Eddie but they did lay the ground work in Spider-Man ps5

[bold canopy]

I kinda despise it cause its a weird fucked up mishmash of trying to do Anti-venom's storyline but with Harry

it doesn't work

We need Eddie

[sacred ingot]

imagine a whole game bro

[bold canopy]

because Harry is supposed to become Hobgoblin

[random token]

it would be amazing

[bold canopy]

and if they wanted to do Anti-venom they should've just followed with Eddie Brock dying of cancer like they did in the OG anti-venom storyline

[random token]

i was ok with them doing something new

[sacred ingot]

ima send insomniac a email to make venom game later

[bold canopy]

idk I'm just a hater of unneeded changes I guess

Why fuck up a good already told story

[random token]

though if they do make the venom game that has been leaked/rumored, i think theyre 100% gonna do eddie brock

[sacred ingot]

hey i got question

the guard from loki

[bold canopy]

they blew their load too early on too many things and left Miles without many villains to work with

[random token]

because why tell a story if its already been told

[bold canopy]

and I just don't like the idea of making Miles the main spider-man

it won't ever work

[sacred ingot]

is now the boss of one of the tva

[bold canopy]

Marvel has been trying and failing to replace Spider-man for decades

[sacred ingot]

if she is now the boos

[bold canopy]

I fear the next spider-man game is gonna fuck it up too

[sacred ingot]

where is loki

[bold canopy]

hes like the new god of the timelines

he's become what Kang was

iirc

[sacred ingot]

god of mischief is now god of timeline

[bold canopy]

yeah they did something wild with Loki

[sacred ingot]

bro got promoted

[bold canopy]

thats why I love the MCU though

they'll often improve on the comic variations of characters/storylines

for example they somehow by a fucking miracle managed to salvage something good out of One More Day

which is insane to me

even now

[random token]

not "the boss" but she is in a role of authority

theres a whole like council

and she is on it

[bold canopy]

its like the most hated spider-man story ever told and they actually used it as the base for the 3rd Spider-man movie

wild

[sacred ingot]

oh yeh mb

[bold canopy]

and made it good

[random token]

it is genuinely incredible that they managed to make one more day into one of the best spider-man movies

[bold canopy]

yeah its some insane MCU magic and Idk how else to describe it

cause there's basically nothing of value to be had in One More Day

yet they somehow found it

[random token]

all my homies hate one more day

[bold canopy]

its even crazier because in One More Day Dr. Strange says removing a bullet is beyond his power and in Spider-man 3 he's the main reason for why everything happens

what a cool flip on an incredibly stupid moment in One More Day

man they are getting so much use out of doing the multi-verse though for real. There's almost nothing off the tables anymore. They pulled out a deep cut marvel character in Cassandra and used the void to do so

sick

[topaz vessel]

His Eddie Brock sux. No hate, no Vendetta.

[bold canopy]

I like it

[random token]

i mentioned earlier but i think secret wars will have a "crisis on infinite earths" type ending

[bold canopy]

but I'm biased cause I think Tom Hardy is fantastic

[random token]

where multiple universe combine into one new mcu timeline

[bold canopy]

yeah I'm wondering how they're gonna handle the timelines in the future

it's a great setup for a lot of awesome characters/ideas

[indigo geyser]

For sure, but I just figure they was doing a loose adaption.

[random token]

they cant do the nultiverse forever

[bold canopy]

but it does make things messy

[bold canopy]

technically the comics have forever

so its actually totally viable for them to do that

[random token]

i mean like

audiences are already getting tired of the multiverse

it makes things very confusing for general audiences

and requires way too much "homework"

a soft reboot after secret wars is definitely the move

[bold canopy]

the MCU is too far in to worry about that

[random token]

keep some characters, recast others, and start a new era with no prerequisite viewings

[indigo geyser]

I feel like they are tired of bad writing not necessarily of multiverse, across the spider verse did quite well

[bold canopy]

I think we'll see some reboots on characters though depending. Some actors are giga pro-MCU and seem to be ride or die MCU

others I could see being recast

after a reboot of some kind

[indigo geyser]

I’d think after the multiverse saga they’d do the mutant saga

[bold canopy]

yeah I could see that

[random token]

thats a very good point

[random token]

agreed

[indigo geyser]

Maybe we get live action mastermold and bastion

🤞🏾

[random token]

step away from the avengers and start from ground zero to establish the x-men

[indigo geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-97-bastion-smile-x-men-97-xmen97-gif-7587484186265246678

[indigo geyser]

Imagine seeing X-men team up with Spider-Man in a movie 😭🙌🏾

[bold canopy]

they have a lot of hurdles in casting but yeah they can always do actual house of M storyline if they want

once they've done the mutant saga

to keep things going

[indigo geyser]

Wasn’t house of m loosely done with Wanda vision

[random token]

i just want to see spidey team up with the fantastic 4

[random token]

not really

[bold canopy]

not really from what I understand it. They took the most barebones idea of what started house of M but otherwise no

not really

[indigo geyser]

Ah gotcha, what was Wanda and adaption of

[bold canopy]

just Wanda trying to bring her kids back

[bold canopy]

kinda its own thing

[random token]

it wasnt adapting anything

people theorized it would have a house of M ending but it did not

[indigo geyser]

lol instead we got multiverse of madness 🥲

[bold canopy]

I thought it'd be House of M to begin the introduction of the mutants

but they didn't

[random token]

i thank whatever lord exists every single day that taylor swift wasn't in deadpool & wolverine 🙏🙏🙏

[indigo geyser]

Peak…

Taylor Swift is overexposed

[random token]

swifties are so insufferable

[indigo geyser]

fandoms can get crazy man 🥲

[random token]

so i have seen a LOT of polls and surveys and comments about rdj as doom

here is what i have found

compiling thousands of people's comments/responses

~50% of people are fully on board

about 20-25% of people are hesitant but not against it

and the other 25-30% are against it

[safe copper]

So basically vast majority are not against RDJ as Doom then

[random token]

yes

[safe copper]

I'm on board and for me all that matters is story

[random token]

twice as many people are all for it than all against it

[safe copper]

I think so too

[random token]

i think that it has the chance to be done really well

it allows for a lot of opportunities

if done well

[safe copper]

Totally agree

It has huge risks but if done right it can be great as well

[random token]

still absolutely insane that this movie made $211 million dollars domestically in its opening weekend

the estimates were mostly putting it between 165 and 185 mil

with the VERY highest and most optimistic estimates putting it at 200 mil

and it smashed past even that

actually insane

[bold canopy]

RDJ as Dr Doom is such a weirdly MCU inspired casting choice that I actually just assume RDJ will end up being born to also play Dr. Doom lmfao

[random token]

marvel casting has not missed

not once

[bold canopy]

no it has

[random token]

if they think rdj can plan doom

[bold canopy]

they ruined Taskmaster

[random token]

he can play doom

[random token]

i would say the writing is what ruined taskmaster

not the casting

[sacred ingot]

WTf💀

[random token]

im excited to see her in thunderbolts* where hopefully she has more to do lol

[random token]

watched it the other day

kinda mid

im from the future btw

[sacred ingot]

how does the world end

[random token]

with thunderous applause

[sacred ingot]

bruh

[torn granite]

Dude.

You don't understand how relieved I am.

Imagine the absolute increase in insufferables theaters would see.

[indigo geyser]

Tony and Loki have switched places 🥲, Loki is a hero of the universe, “Tony” the villain 🥲

[torn granite]

As if soyjak mcu capeshit fans aren't bad enough.

[smoky vapor]

Was that ever even discussed as a possibility lmao

[torn granite]

Seeing how buddy buddy Reynolds, Lively, and Swift are, yes.

Queen of capitalism will do anything for clout.

[warped nova]

https://fixupx.com/vancityreynolds/status/1817910224969167006 huge

[random token]

for whatever reason some people thought she would be in it, even though it was officially confirmed she wasnt like a month ago lol

[warped nova]

https://fixupx.com/lecinephiles/status/1818057669552521382

[bold canopy]

Honestly the score for Deadpool and Wolverine is shockingly good

[random token]

this is true

[random token]

at least now we know for sure that channing tatum gambit is, in fact, perfect casting

[warped nova]

Agreed. His accent made me lose myself. Hilarious

[random token]

IT WAS PERFECT

"who is your dialect coach, the minions?" 😂😂😂

[bold canopy]

Channing Tatum is actually a great Gambit. He's got the look down, and he's genuinely a funny as hell dude. He's perfect for Gambit

[random token]

he really is so funny

[ashen crypt]

Anyone else had that uncle beside them asking who every character is?

[random token]

no

though i did have to explain a couple cameos to my gf after the movie ended lol

[ashen crypt]

I was like please don't ask me to explain X-Men continuity I literally don't have the time 🤣

[topaz vessel]

Tom Hardy is fantastic. His Eddie Brock has no rage, no aggro, no oomph.

[safe copper]

https://x.com/channingtatum/status/1818120187637612599?t=a538ohJi9EOBgvfh0cRIXg&s=19

Channing Tatum (@channingtatum) on X

These pictures are almost 10 years apart to the day. I sat in the audience when Ryan Reynolds showed his first peek of Deadpool 1 to the world and I think I ran back stage right after and found him and I think I just hugged him and was like holy shit you did it man. It’s perfect.

Twitter · Jul 30, 2024, 3:03 AM

[half coyote]

you know he was attached to play the character some time back but the movie never happened, hence his 'I think I was born here' line.

[tidal saddle]

happy that he finally had the chance to act out as Gambit, heard a lot of the screw ups that he had to go thru

[mental yoke]

Thinking about this film a lot more, the cameos felt less like cameos and more like genuine supporting characters

They all got their time to shine and were on screen longer than five seconds lol

They also didn't do the X-Force gag with them which I didn't expect

All the cameos felt like they enjoyed being there, like the actors really had fun and were appreciative of getting to embody these characters again

[half coyote]

I think they probably appreciated the recognition

[ashen crypt]

What a reunion between Ryan Reynolds and Wesley Snipes after trinity

[empty sand]

Tbf, it’s a teammate that people have been wanting and it’s been 6 years since the last one.

It’s successful but look at the prior films outside of Guardians 3. Time will eventually tell but this film was ok and from someone who never had personal attachment for anything marvel, it was easily understood.

[sacred ingot]

rip nicepool he was true one

[sacred ingot]

to be honest

at end of the movie

who was hard for lady deadpool

raise yo hand

[warped nova]

Not really. That said, it’s confirmed Blake Lively played Lady Deadpool and well, permission for me to simp lol.

[sacred ingot]

its confirmed deadpool and spider man is green lit

[supple sequoia]

there are 206 bones in the human body. 207 if you’re watching gossip girl

[strange spoke]

HAHAHAHAHA

[bronze hawk]

lol the cameo porn sequence is garbage

Incomprehensible choreography

So no I wouldn’t say it does

[random token]

you mean one out of the countless fight scenes

[bronze hawk]

The directing is extremely bland throughout

[random token]

why are you in this channel if you're just gonna hate unnecessarily

[bronze hawk]

Well choreographed as in not a CG bonanza? The only fight I love was the Honda one

I’m not hating unnecessarily

But calling this great directing? Oh boy

[random token]

if you don't like the movie why even join the channel

[bronze hawk]

I think it’s fine

Easily the weakest Deadpool film

[bronze hawk]

Probably top 5 weakest MCU villains 😅

Amdrew: YOURE SUCH A HATER QUIT HATING MWAAAAAH

[random token]

i really live in your head rent free, huh

i wasnt even here and you were thinking about me

🥰

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1818275050627203428

[bronze hawk]

Can’t you take the higher ground and confront him at home instead of acting like an animal and disrupting the experience of the paying audience

[random token]

some of us want to see marvel jesus

[bronze hawk]

I’m guessing this is in Brazil

Yes it is that’s Portuguese

[north star]

incredible stuff

this is what theaters were made for

[coarse ginkgo]

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-deadpool-wolverine-1236089732/

[round elbow]

Do y’all think Tomer Capone would be a good Gambit?

He has the accent

[random token]

i could see the vision

my dream x-men group for the mcu would be cyclops, jean gray, rogue, ice man, gambit, and wolverine (and perhaps storm as well but she is incredibly op so maybe they could save her for a later movie)

and obviously professor x would be leading them but he's more of their "guy in the chair" than someone who actually goes on missions with them

and beast

almost forgot beast

but i also see him more as a guy in the chair who will reluctantly join a fight if necessary

i see him as someone who would much rather be in his lab than on the battlefield

but hey, thats just what i would do if kevin feige came to me today and told me to do the x-men in the mcu

[coarse ginkgo]

https://fxtwitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1818315623505818104

[indigo geyser]

https://youtu.be/3yPfmJMzVVY?si=9y9hjEIATVq8ipgA

[random token]

https://youtu.be/3yPfmJMzVVY?si=CPlCrxBqRLTRX4or

[random token]

ok but why was thor crying

[coarse ginkgo]

https://deadline.com/2024/07/deadpool-wolverine-box-office-global-milestones-1236026398/

[fallow crescent]

Has this restored your faith in the MCU?

[random token]

idk if one movie had the power to do that, no matter how good

but

seeing this movie, and then seeing the plan to have fantastic 4, cap 4, and thunderbolts* set up two avengers movies

that has me optimistic

this is definitely the most excited i have been about the future of the mcu since before endgame

[real monolith]

not really. Guardians 3 and DP3 were always movies i was planning on seeing. Ive seen no other MCU films since Endgame and will probly not see another

[sour night]

I'm just wondering wth a normal audience member who went to go see this because everyone else is even thinks of something like this aimed almost just for fans

What i saw was the movie so many people went to go see?

[sour night]

The only kinda fun fight scene was the car one, took advantage of such a small location

but I just didn't like that the scene felt obligatory, like in the checklist of things the writers were forced to include it was a minimum of two d&w fight sequences

[crimson brook]

Wolverine's monologue just before the car fight starts was superb. Excellent acting and line delivery from Hugh Jackman.

Also it wasn't a forced fight either. Deadpool was devastated by that hard hitting speech.

[random token]

yeah deadpool is a character who tries to cope with everything using humor

and when he cant even do that

he resorts to fighting

[sour night]

There was like a eight or nine year old kid next to me (I saw this in 4dx) who I'm sure with the combination of how over the top the seat shaking is and the absurd violence, that kept making him laugh and giggle a lot

and you could tell he was bored the instant and long dialog scene happened

I just thought that was amusing

I don't like a father took their kid to see this but at least they both had fun

[bold canopy]

thats an insane take to me when it's objectively the best of the 3 from a writing, directing, and general acting department

not to mention it looked the best of all 3 films and had the funniest jokes

I unironically fully believe most of the people going 'Oh its the weakest of the deadpool movies its bad!!!!!!!!!!!!" are literally only saying that cause its not attached to the MCU. Imma be real

[pulsar dome]

I think Deadpool 2 had the best look. David Leitch and his John Wick DoP’s action and color palette in that one stood out.

[round elbow]

Did people actually want Channing to be Gambit? I don’t see why they would choose him specifically

[idle hemlock]

Damn I guess my take is then batshit insane cuz I feel this movie was terrible... a meta-nightmare the first two were not perfect maybe but at least they had a story and emotional stakes... what was this one story? Disney bought Fox?

[idle hemlock]

I did not care for him tbh but I loved seeing Wesley Snipes back as Blade cuz I love those movies

[round elbow]

Was him being Gambit just a rumor back then?

[idle hemlock]

I think yes or maybe he had a cameo in Origins?

i dont recall

[round elbow]

No?

[idle hemlock]

havent seen that in so long

[round elbow]

Taylor Kitsch played him

[bold canopy]

did you even watch this movie?

or do you just want to hate on it cause its the first MCU Deadpool?

[round elbow]

He’s Canadian

[bold canopy]

What do you mean what was the st ory? Or that it didn't have emotional stakes?

Did we watch the same movie?

[idle hemlock]

Unfortunately i did, my best bud loves deadpool and wanted to see it at theater

[bold canopy]

yeah sure they did

idk man if you watched the movie and unironically said "where were the emotional stakes/story" then you just wanted to hate the movie before you watched it

and that's all there is to it

[idle hemlock]

i dont usually go to theater to hate a movie is super expensive where i live... i wanted to have fun but i guess you rich (1st world) mofos can afford to waste money in hating shit

[round elbow]

Some movies I don’t like are movies that I thought were gonna be good but they disappointed me

I don’t see anyone walking into a movie expecting to hate it unless they’re a critic and it’s their job

[bold canopy]

he said it himself, his friend wanted to see the movie

idk man if he's seriously gonna complain thhere was no story/emotional beats than he either went in wanting to hate the movie already or he's media illiterate

[round elbow]

I thought Marvel fans wanted to see DP with the Avengers

Unfortunately some are either dead or old

[idle hemlock]

what was the point of the story my dude since you so much smarter than me

So far all the fans i encountered online seem to make personal attacks when I critizice parts of the film they never defend the film itself

[random token]

idk if i'd say it had the best writing but it was definitely the funniest, and the only deadpool movie not to have a weird blue-green filter over everything

[idle hemlock]

that speaks tons about how weak the story is

[bold canopy]

because you're just wrong lmfao

you are literally saying the movie had no story/emotional beats

[idle hemlock]

well i am all ears my dude

[bold canopy]

and that's just factually incorrect

[idle hemlock]

i said emotional stakes

[bold canopy]

the movie had multiple emotional beats through the entire film and the story was very clear

[idle hemlock]

not beats

[bold canopy]

yes and it had even more emotional stakes

so you are still wrong on that front too

[random token]

i mean i feel like the stakes were pretty high in this movie

[indigo geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-cat-fighting-cute-fight-cute-cat-fight-fight-gif-1524725573532120617

[round elbow]

?

[random token]

deapdool's entire universe was at risk

[idle hemlock]

well explain it to me

i am waiting

[round elbow]

Good I don’t want the Fox universe to exist anymore lol

[bold canopy]

"what emotional stakes' oh idk, Wolverine being a fuck up and caused all the X-men to die and wanting a chance at redemption? What about Deadpool feeling like a fuck up and wanting to matter? What about Deadpool wanting to save the only people who matter to him AKA his small family AKA his world?

What about Cassandra as a villain feeling neglected and unwanted because of what happened with Professor X? What about how the multiple forgotten characters like Blade and Elektra who just wanted a chance to defend their world?

[idle hemlock]

save the world and wanting redemption yes like i have not seen that explored a thousand times better in a million movies before and even seen Logan where Wolverine achieves actual redemption

[bold canopy]

Idk bro maybe you just aren't media literate enough to understand basic concepts

[indigo geyser]

The story Deadpool is being pulled into MCU by TVA agent whom wants universe 10005 to have an expidite ending, this TVA agent is likely a faction that split from main branch of TVa at end of Loki S2

[bold canopy]

yeah so you are a blatant hater who just wants an excuse to hate it

that's what I thought

okay good to know

this is why people dismiss your "criticisms" as just being a hater btw

Like I explain the emotional stakes and you just go "Oh other movies have done that so it doesn't count!"

[indigo geyser]

He notices that Deadpool has value and notices gives him opportunity to jump to MCU at cost of Fox universe.

[bold canopy]

its really funny you mentioned Logan too when that movie is directly talked about and Wolverine himself never got that moment. He was robbed of it. He fucked up and his world hates him for it. He got no redemption. Just stuck in a dying world forced to wallow in his own misery and mistakes to the point he accepts he's the worst Wolverine

[indigo geyser]

The movie has some subtle analogy for the Paradox being like a marvel/ or studio executive. Stripping a main character from a franchise leads to that franchise going down hill and dying out.

[random token]

i mean the movie is about someone being offered everything they ever wanted but realizing that the cost of getting it is too much and that they actually already have everything they need

[indigo geyser]

This movie serves as more world building for the MCU.

[random token]

its not a complex story, but it is effective in my opinion

[indigo geyser]

It’s def not shallow either, there are some pretty meta humor for those that have been following marvel business closely, and there media perception

Tie ins for longtime fans, def don’t think Casandra Nova is the most fleshed out villain, but she’s not horrendous she serves her purpose

she’s not as bad as what we got in “the marvels”

and def poses a better threat then what we get from Kang and Modok in antman 3

Rather than telling us she’s dangerous she shows us, unlike Kang in antman 3

[coarse ginkgo]

How old are you btw?

Just wondering

[bold canopy]

why does it matter?

[coarse ginkgo]

Just to see if there’s correlation between arguments made by people of the same age

[bold canopy]

im 30

[coarse ginkgo]

Checks out

[idle hemlock]

you are brainwash and sooo idiotic that you dont understand that don't liking a movie is not equal to hating it. A person can very much like/dislike a film.... not necessary hate it i rarely even hate films tbh... that is such a extreme opposite emotional reaction to hate a piece of entertainment... but well idk what i expect arguing with film noobs... you probably not seen even half the amount of films i seen... so you cannot understand the simple fact that having emotional beats don't mean use them effectively.. quality does not equal a meta-joke for cameos and the same old "emotional stakes" i seen before DONE BETTER. But with that type of fanatic mentality when if you dont enjoy a film"YOU ARE A HATER!!!" Well dude is pointless... I actually was half entertained with this but I truly had a hard time getting invested... The first two films were much more engaging for me personally but if you find this one to be the best well good for ya i would not judge you, preferences are subjective but naturally with comic book movies... i dont know why the audience is the most toxic nowadays and proceed to attack the person just for having an opinion. Well my mistake to get in this chat. Its pointless. Have it your way.

Bye

[bold canopy]

the reason I used the term hater is because you said there was no emotional stakes or story and when those were pointed out you immediately pivoted to discrediting them

by claiming other movies have done them

it feels like you want an excuse to hate the movie/discredit it

"film noobs" LOL

yeah that tracks

[idle hemlock]

how many movies you seen? just curiosity...

[coarse ginkgo]

Deadpool 1, Deadpool 2, Deadpool 3 of course

[idle hemlock]

all MCU of course

lmao

[bold canopy]

I've seen probably as many movies as you have buddy. I'm a huge cinema buff

I love movies/television

a lot

[idle hemlock]

do you have Letterboxd?

[bold canopy]

yeah but its outdated and just like my MAL it's still in dire need of being updated some day

I was also late to making it so there's still a ton of movies I need to add into it at some point

[idle hemlock]

ok a simple question and then i am out... what is your favorite comic book film?

[bold canopy]

Guardians of the Galaxy 2

[idle hemlock]

oh that checks out

ok bye

[bold canopy]

?

[indigo geyser]

Oh no, this is devolving… I’ve seen more movies than you ergo I know more about film… 🤦🏾‍♂️.

[bold canopy]

yeah well it is what it is

there's a lot of film elitists in this discord so it's not uncommon to see comments like that

[indigo geyser]

don’t get me wrong this movie isn’t challengers, Florida project, whiplash level, but the movie isn’t trying to be those nor is it trying to be Logan.

[bold canopy]

yeah that's my thought too

[indigo geyser]

still I’d think 3.5 makes sense

Or 3 if being analyzed from lens of film critic

[bold canopy]

I hardly think its god tier cinema or anything but its still very good

and has a lot to love about it

[indigo geyser]

for me it’s a 4.5 cause it tickled my fancy

[idle hemlock]

no shit Sherlock... I don't enjoy being mock like an idiot for simply pointing out movies than done the same "beats" better i dont think i know more cuz i seen more movies but anyone who is so close minded that thinks you either love or hate a film like theres no room in between... well then they just new to movies or they dumb as simple as that.

[earnest raptor]

Is it right to lower the bar for movies that swallow up these massive budgets and push other films out of cinemas?

[indigo geyser]

🤣 chill it ain’t that serious

[bold canopy]

let me clear something up. I didn't assume you hated the film just because you had criticisms. I stated you are a hater because you made up a criticism that wasn't true and when it was pointed out you pivoted to claiming other movies did it better

that is some serious "MCU le bad" brainrot mentality

[earnest raptor]

I think the bar should be much, much higher for something with all these resources

[bold canopy]

and then the weird flex of "i've seen more movies than you lol"

makes you come across like one of the annoying film snobs in here who love to shit on the MCU as their favorite punching bag because some 80 year old director once said it wasn't cinema

[earnest raptor]

Lol

What does Scorsese’s age have to do with it?

Also, the MCU is a multi-billion dollar empire… it’s ok to criticise it

It’s not the underdog

[bold canopy]

sure

as long as you are giving it fair criticisms sure

there are plenty of MCU films I'm not particularly fond of

[earnest raptor]

There are plenty of fair criticisms for a film as bad as Deadpool & Wolverine

[bold canopy]

but what really grinds my gears are the folk who want to blanket shit all over the MCU just because

while ignoring the multiple fantastic films that are inside the MCU

[bold canopy]

lol

[earnest raptor]

Just because… we’d like to see those resources used well?

[bold canopy]

and objectively they were used very well in Deadpool and Wolverine

so I dont see what that was to do with anything?

[earnest raptor]

“Objectively”

You’re being silly now

Use grown up words if you want to talk with grown ups

[bold canopy]

yes the movie had fantastic fight choreography, looked good, and good direction

yes

[coarse ginkgo]

Very rich of someone to say they’d hear criticism out whilst preaching about what’s ‘objectively’ true

[bold canopy]

it did use those resources very well

[coarse ginkgo]

Which is extra funny because it isn’t true

[bold canopy]

I'm happy for you that you think that

[idle hemlock]

maybe for you but i dont enjoy being called "media illiterate" for simply having an opinion

[bold canopy]

and I can in fact use the term objectively because Deadpool and Wolverine was a smash success. Making a ton of money in the box office right now and is critically well received by critics and audience alike

so yes it did in fact use its resources objectively well

[coarse ginkgo]

Oh money means it’s good does it

[bold canopy]

as shown by its massive success and general reception

[coarse ginkgo]

It might be time to start acting your supposed age

[bold canopy]

lol

What would an MCU movie using its resources well mean to you

can you give me an example?

[earnest raptor]

The film had middling fight choreography cheapened by the immortality of every character, it always looked flat with a mix of dull void wides and ugly closed sets to protect ‘secret cameos’, and the direction is consistently mediocre. There’s nothing innovative in it either in the visuals, audio or edit. It is an entirely perfunctory product.

[sour night]

I think it was in development hell

[bold canopy]

yes I do believe you watch a lot of YMS and think you're an epic film snob. I already understood that but thanks for reaffirming it for me

[earnest raptor]

I don’t know what YMS is

I just didn’t like the movie

[coarse ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/cubs-win-gif-1499441812138180596

[idle hemlock]

wtf is YMS is that piracy?

lmao

[bold canopy]

anyways It's great the MCU le bad brain rot film snobs have decided to waste precious time shitting on a movie they didn't like in the movie spoilers section for said movie they didn't like. Why you in here? You didn't like the movie.

[earnest raptor]

Can you explain to me why you think they chose to set the film primarily in a barren, poorly graded Void? It is literally the opposite of a dynamic, vibrant location

[bold canopy]

Seems like you could be using your time better

to talk about films you like

[earnest raptor]

The bunker where all the cameos are revealed is designed only to be spoiler proof

Not to look good

And frankly it doesn’t

[bold canopy]

lol

[coarse ginkgo]

Whoever doesn’t like this movie you’re an uneducated stupid snob 😠😠

[earnest raptor]

Why are you calling me a snob for explaining what I didn’t like about the film?

[bold canopy]

what are your thoughts on the first two deadpool movies

[idle hemlock]

yes of course MCU spoiler section only for MCU faithful mindless soldiers like you Kanata!

[earnest raptor]

I’m not telling you that you’re wrong

[bold canopy]

yeah definitely

[earnest raptor]

First one is ok, I love the second one

Truly

[idle hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-doctor-doom-sdcc-robert-downey-jr-avengers-doomsday-gif-17212964923593506311

[earnest raptor]

David Leitch has an eye Shawn Levy can only dream of

And I think the ensemble in 2 perfectly captures the zany, odd bunch dynamic of a good comic

This one just feels so forced by comparison

[bold canopy]

are you sure its that and not the case of this one being the first MCU Deadpool?

[earnest raptor]

Reynolds and Jackman don’t even have good chemistry frankly

[sour night]

I thought the film pallet looked ugly a lot of thr times and the action felt awkward and just the filmmakers hoping people thinking a lot of stuff going on means it's cool and quality
Which is why I liked the car fight the most since it had the most focus with a decent location to make a fight around

[bold canopy]

okay so its definitely some MCU hater shit

[coarse ginkgo]

Jesus Christ god forbid someone gives you actual criticism

[earnest raptor]

You are such a little boy

[bold canopy]

because this movie was a massive love letter to the Fox era of super hero movies

and gave all the cameos a lot of respect and great moments

[indigo geyser]

Would these other films be making a profit for those theatres, I think marvel and other big IP have been saving theatres from having to close after the shit show with Covid

[earnest raptor]

I’ve given you plenty of reasons for my opinion. You’re being a snob yourself by dismissing them.

[earnest raptor]

Well there’s the whole Disney theatre issue, which is where they insist small theatres show their films in x number of screens for y number of weeks or they get blacklisted.

So a small theatre can’t show Deadpool 3 times and smaller films 3 times, they have to show Deadpool 5 times and give one smaller film a matinee.

Disney are scum, basically

It’s a really shitty practice

You’ll notice that Top Gun and Barbenheimer are credited with saving cinema more than any Disney product… this is why

They sell tickets, but they don’t block book theatres

(Except IMAX)

[bold canopy]

To clarify, I don't even think Deadpool and Wolverine is the best MCU film. Or even close to it. But its definitely a very good movie and the fact the MCU gave Ryan Reynolds and the director/crew so much freedom to do whatever they wanted and not worry about censoring anything is really impressive and cool for the MCU to do. They didn't have to do that but they did. I think that's cool. I think its cool that you could tell just how much fun and how hype Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman (along with the rest of the cast really) were to be in an MCU film. Everyone was having fun

[earnest raptor]

So much freedom to do what exactly?

Make pegging jokes?

[coarse ginkgo]

It’s really good they didn’t censor those jokes about… how good a specific brand of car is

[bold canopy]

yeah ill come back when the MCU hater squad have grew tired of making the same complaints they always do.

no point in talking about the movie right now

peace

[earnest raptor]

For what it’s worth, there are quite a few MCU films I like

Iron Man 3, Black Panther, the Guardians films…

Basically the ones that feel made by real filmmakers availing of Disney’s resources

[idle hemlock]

I am so glad you finally show your colors... you just another zombie fanatic that will always blindly defend his MCU overlords i was stupid thinking i could get in this spoiler section and express my opinion like in any other one without having one of this humanbots puking attacks and discredits like a good ol Feigy-doggy... all bark no bite... well thank you i will never venture in one of this again you gate keeping job is complete. 🫡 🤣

[earnest raptor]

Which doesn’t include Shawn Levy lol

[indigo geyser]

what would be type of films that would be shoved to matinee, at the end of the day if a movie catches on the casuals audiences it’s gonna make a profit.

[earnest raptor]

Anything medium or low budget

Non franchise fare

[bold canopy]

lol

[earnest raptor]

Films that don’t have the same marketing reach as the blockbusters

[indigo geyser]

If more people want to see a franchise movie wouldn’t it make sense to free up more space to accommodate the demand?

[earnest raptor]

No, because it’s the other way around

More people see the franchise films cos they’re all that’s showing

[bold canopy]

I criticize the MCU quite a bit actually. I just don't like blind hate for the MCU and this server is full of that. I'm in belief that a good movie is a good movie. If I enjoyed a movie I enjoyed it. So I stand completely against the absolute brain rot nonsense that people will vomit out against the MCU as some broad collective evil villain to attack

[earnest raptor]

It’s not blind hate to give reasons

[indigo geyser]

I disagree with this, there have been many opportunities to see films other than franchise this year, challengers, I saw the tv glow…etc

[bold canopy]

you wanna call me a loyal soldier to the MCU? Sure whatever makes you feel better

[earnest raptor]

You didn’t actually respond to any of the reasons I gave

[indigo geyser]

civil war (2024)

[bold canopy]

I defend movies I like

[earnest raptor]

You just got rude and childish

[bold canopy]

I liked this movie

[earnest raptor]

There are minimal opportunities to see I Saw The TV Glow lol

If you don’t live near an arthouse theatre you won’t see it

[bold canopy]

I got rude and childish because the dude calling me a dog for Feige literally tried to discredit me and flex by claiming he's seen more movies than me

[indigo geyser]

It was out all over in may

[bold canopy]

and then tried to undermine my opinion as if it was lesser than his

[earnest raptor]

You were rude and childish to me.

[earnest raptor]

Scarcely

[bold canopy]

yeah cause you magically appeared out of thin air not soon after

[earnest raptor]

With actual points to have a conversation

You lashed out like a child

[bold canopy]

with similar talking points/attitudes

[earnest raptor]

No

[indigo geyser]

I saw it opening day when it got released in later may. The release dates with that movie was weird, and even then. While I enjoy that movie, “casuals” hated it.

[indigo geyser]

A large amount of people at the opening day viewing I went too couldn’t even piece together it being trans allegory and thought it was going to be a jump scare horror movie and got mad

[earnest raptor]

I also thought it was funny how they clearly thought Furiosa was gonna be a bigger hit than it was

[bold canopy]

I lashed out cause I get incredibly tired of stuck up their own ass film snobs who think they can just wave their hand to auto discredit any opinion they don't agree with. "I didn't like this movie cause it had no story or emotional stakes" Okay and then multiple people not just me explained the very clear story and emotional stakes all over the film and then I see "Well other movies did it better!" which is such a gross pivot to me that yeah sorry I have no reason to respect that person's opinion

[earnest raptor]

They do an extended spoof of a bomb no one saw lol

Whoops

(I say this as a Furiosa super fan)

[indigo geyser]

It’s a shame furiosa was great,

[bold canopy]

and then you show up claiming Disney is killing cinema

[earnest raptor]

Agreed

[earnest raptor]

What have I done that’s snobbish? I gave numerous reasons for my opinions and never dismissed yours.

Do you know what snob actually means?

[indigo geyser]

I think furiosa flopped due to a number of issues, Mad max isn’t as popular anymore, if they would have released after 2-3 years of fury road it might have done better

[earnest raptor]

Typically snobs are the ones throwing around words like “objectively”

[bold canopy]

lol

You claimed the movie didn't use the resources correctly

[earnest raptor]

I did

And then I gave my reasons

You never responded to any of my reasons

You just started namecalling

[bold canopy]

I said they objectively did and pointed out the smash success at the box office and the general love from both fans and critics its currently getting on RT

and other sites

which means yes it did use its resources correctly

it was a big success

you just personally didn't like how they were used

[earnest raptor]

I don’t think it’s a good piece of film

The craft is pretty dreadful

[earnest raptor]

And you personally did

[indigo geyser]

If people want to see more movies other than franchise they need to invest there money into them. Let’s take DCEU, franchise movies that do horiribly, like Zach Snyder movies or black Adam, there is very vocal fan base but they don’t show up to the theatres even though they are shown everywhere