No.. some say CIA, I mean she was a communist
#🎥 Oppenheimer
kind robin
jade turret
General theory is that it’s CIA or some form of government
jade turret
Eh
hearty pilot
He could of done it as a way to cut her off
jade turret
I don’t think so
kind robin
Maybe someone killed her as she had become distraction to Oppenheimer
kind robin
And US govt didn't want that .. they needed full focus of Oppenheimer
hearty pilot
U think security dude did it?
👀
Kitty maybe
👀👀👀
Kitty
Ong
She has motive
Damn
It was kitty
kind robin
I doubt that
hearty pilot
Ong
jade turret
I mean he was clearly extremely upset by it, he said “she still loved me” and I think the implication was him admitting “I still loved her”
I mean this happened in real life, it would be absurd for Oppenheimer to have murdered a person he loved
hearty pilot
How was she there then?
It was kitty or security dude
👀
Kitty didn’t give a fuck when she died
She told Oppenheimer to suck it
Idk..
round quail
Not really, the authors of American Prometheus say it wasn't really clear what happened.
kind robin
It wasn't Kitty.. she was with Oppenheimer during the incident
hearty pilot
No?
After
She ran to him on horse
she dealt with depression its on wiki
please stop with these stupid theories 💀
the hands mightve been symbolism of how oppenheimer felt guilt
as he was the one whose fault it was
Ok
jade turret
Not really, the authors of American Prometheus say it wasn't really clear what h...
Yeah I doubt she was murdered
It’s just cool that he slipped that in there
I think the only thing to theorise on is what nolan thinks
Cause he slipped it in there
jade turret
Scariest and favourite part of this IMO is the stomping noise
I dunno if it’s intentional or if I’m reaching but it felt like a pretty clear metaphor for the bomb itself IMO
hearty pilot
Scariest and favourite part of this IMO is the stomping noise
Stressed u the duck it
Fuck
💀
jade turret
Stressed u the duck it
Yeah
I think the best since isn’t the bomb going off, but probably the scene where he’s at the school giving the speech
The bomb going off is probably the third best scene IMO
coarse horizon
Bro, movie stopped for me halfway during my IMAX screening.
Lol. That has never happened to me before, but it makes sense since it’s hard to run 70mm IMAX film.
So far, it’s enjoyable.
Dialogue heavy, but intriguing. Learning a lot about Manhattan Project and Oppenheimer himself and how scientists and physicists work.
Oppenheimer is just a complex figure. He seems to be distant, unable to process emotion, yet smart and brilliant.
jade turret
Bro, movie stopped for me halfway during my IMAX screening.
How far in were you?
Like last scene you watched
Oh also this seems to be a common issue with 70MM imax
fiery river
I’ve completed Barbenheimer, I’m landing at 5/5 for Oppenheimer, and 4/5 for Barbie
jade turret
I’ve completed Barbenheimer, I’m landing at 5/5 for Oppenheimer, and 4/5 for Bar...
Going 4/5 for barbie and 4.5/5 for Oppenheimer
wicked ginkgo
Just watched it in IMAX and it was amazing!
round quail
Bro, movie stopped for me halfway during my IMAX screening.
Ontario?
outer brook
The Truman scene and the one where he is giving a speech and the background starts vibrating as he thinks of the bombings are the best
modest lagoon
that gymnasium speech scene shows the horrors of the atomic bomb without even showing any gore or violence
feels like a horror movie
kind robin
Ya, it was chilling
gleaming mirage
man I hate that there is no option to watch in imax where I live
dire dagger
I feel like one of my criticisms was that he used too much intense sound (I saw it in IMAX). It would have been better if he used it sparingly to a shock effect. Thoughts?
gleaming mirage
I'll be able to answer that on monday
round quail
I feel like one of my criticisms was that he used too much intense sound (I saw ...
hmm I didnt really mind this but I see what you mean.
fiery river
ive not been a lifelong YMS defender and this is bullshit lol https://twitter.com/NeekoReviews/status/1682717748353179648
kind robin
Don't know who this is but this rating is ridiculous
gleaming mirage
love him
fiery river
the blueprint for generic annoying music hipsters who really seem to genuinely despise film
gleaming mirage
nah hes funny
6 stars for oppenheimer idk about
but I can see why some say barbie is better
fiery river
he's just way too picky imo
gleaming mirage
his vid on the little mermaid was pretty good
upper cipher
I feel like one of my criticisms was that he used too much intense sound (I saw ...
I thought the sound design was one of the best aspects imo
analog jasper
Funniest shit ever
paper hatch
ive not been a lifelong YMS defender and this is bullshit lol https://twitter.co...
everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but WHAT???
fiery river
I genuinely feel he just likes being the "am i the only one who had issues with the film you all love?" guy
I should wait to see what his specific takes are with it but alot of the time I hear his critiques on films, they're just insanely nitpicky or wrong
dire dagger
I think it's fair to have issues with a film while also appreciating it's insane technical greatness and general ability to please an audience
paper hatch
i actually take my words back, Oppenheimer does strike me as a Scary Movie type film
coarse horizon
I wasn’t a fan of the whole courtroom storyline. That wasn’t was compelling as the creation of the bomb, but I understood why Nolan chose that framing device to tell Oppenheimer’s story.
fiery river
I will say I wish some of the more prominent recurring actors in the film were also included in the main cast billing, and not just the Oscar winners who had like 5 minutes in the film
coarse horizon
I will say I wish some of the more prominent recurring actors in the film were a...
Hahah yeah, Downey overacted a bit, but he was great.
fiery river
David Krumholtz and Benny Safdie were far more involved than Rami Malek and Casey Affleck
coarse horizon
It was just hard to keep up with every major and minor character.
Nolan also likes to jump back and forth.
But I like the movie overall.
fiery river
Downey made sense being in the main cast billing, but idk if the ones mentioned or even Pugh should've been
coarse horizon
David Krumholtz and Benny Safdie were far more involved than Rami Malek and Case...
Lol. Yep.
coarse horizon
Downey made sense being in the main cast billing, but idk if the ones mentioned ...
Pugh’s role was significant enough.
fiery river
hell, Jason Clarke should've been too
coarse horizon
But man, Oppenheimer was one hell of an interesting person.
This was a good character study.
paper hatch
I will say I wish some of the more prominent recurring actors in the film were a...
i think the issue more so that the casting was too distracting. In some scenes you'd literally have a list actors as background extras
fiery river
yeah, it's kinda hilarious Alden Ehrenreich is literally playing "Senate Aide"
fiery river
Pugh’s role was significant enough.
yeah, perhaps. I guess I was just looking at the amount of time she was in, and I think in total Jean Tatlock was in ~10 minutes
I guess I'd retain the billing block they chose, but include specific additional names
paper hatch
like apparently Gary oldman played Truman, I just remembered
fiery river
Cillian Murphy, Emily Blunt, Matt Damon, Robert Downey Jr, Florence Pugh, Josh Hartnett, Benny Safdie, Jason Clarke, Alden Ehrenreich, Tom Conti, Dylan Arnold, Casey Affleck, with Rami Malek and Kenneth Branagh
oh shit
I totally forgot that was Dane DeHaan as Nicholls
kind robin
Ya so many big name actors in this movie..
jade turret
Honestly the only thing weighing this down from a 10/10 IMO is that the first act was edited really poorly and kept jumping back and forth too quickly
Like
I don’t mind having the post bomb court stuff at the start I liked that
But it’s so frequent between after the bomb, being recruited to make the bomb and before being recruited
Just lost track at points
dapper nacelle
ive not been a lifelong YMS defender and this is bullshit lol https://twitter.co...
It's Oppenhover
jade turret
I feel for him
He’s not afraid because they’re cheering for the bomb he’s afraid because all the flags are wrong
mellow vale
So
The chances of Oppenheimer surpassing TDK are near zero
Near zero?
What do you want from previews alone?
Zero would be nice
simple violet
This movie is better anyway
modest lagoon
https://yt3.googleusercontent.com/ytc/AOPolaQvlu7AwPje5jsJTYKhEKMN3N0dNrfuRyt5od...
he's pretentious for sure, mf gave the first Spiderverse a 6
wary flame
Lol there were people behind me giggling lol
dire dagger
There was a man next to me that answered his phone 3 times
I feel like that is too many times
hearty pilot
There was a man next to me that answered his phone 3 times
My uncle answered phone during transformers
Bad movie and no one in theatre
Oppenheimer line tho
Why Elon
mellow vale
coarse horizon
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1682940387005026309?s=46&t=fhPx7RAOc-55tNWJk...
No why. Lol.
mellow vale
elon ripped the joke anyway
coarse horizon
https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1682907888648585218
Lol. I didn’t pick up on that. Haha.
hearty pilot
Lol. I didn’t pick up on that. Haha.
if ur counting stars on a flag..
dapper nacelle
Didn’t he stole that joke?
hearty pilot
Didn’t he stole that joke?
yea
dapper nacelle
Classic Elmo
hearty pilot
lol
coarse horizon
if ur counting stars on a flag..
I wasn’t even paying attention to the flag.
deep glen
She has definitely lost her mind.
Unfair to history? The fuck does that even mean? Too talky? It's not an action CGI flick idiot.
Not good use of IMAX? What!?
proper stone
Oppenheimer kino.
deep glen
The ending honestly terrified me when I was in the theater, showing and reminding us of how dangerously powerful nuclear weapons are, and how much they can destroy.
hearty pilot
fr
deep glen
Ain't no way that's an actual thumbnail, that is bullshit
mellow vale
real
pseudo arrow
Like I’m tryna remember what was Strauss motive on Oppenheimer
Like why did he want to go against him
kind robin
Like why did he want to go against him
Well, he felt insulted by Oppenheimer like when Oppenheimer talked about Strauss being a shoe salesman, then he thought that Oppie was talking negatively about Strauss with Einstein and that's why Einstein ignored him.. there's also that hearing regarding exports of isotopes where Oppenheimer made fun of Strauss.
Of course another huge reason is that Strauss wanted to develop H bombs and Oppenheimer was against that and hence he needed to silenced.
deep glen
In my opinion, this is Nolan's best film since Interstellar.
pseudo arrow
time to rewatch
Yeah it’s a really complex film. I’m trying to collect my thoughts, but I see a theme of betrayal. Oppie betraying science, one of his team for the Manhattan project betray him to make Russians create their own H bomb, and America the who he give him the atomic bomb revoke his security prviliages
But still trying to collect my thoughts of this film
pseudo arrow
Well, he felt insulted by Oppenheimer like when Oppenheimer talked about Strauss...
And then the ending scene with him saying to Oppenheimer that he believes that his theory in the ending comes true
But more delayed and later
kind robin
Ya but again it definitely needs a rewatch for better understanding the movie.
deep glen
Seeing the Konbini video, Nolan says the B&W scenes are in Strauss's pov, while the color scenes are in Oppenheimer's pov.
hearty pilot
Yeah it’s a really complex film. I’m trying to collect my thoughts, but I see a ...
i had to see twice. didnt understand shit first time
😂
second time was op
hearty pilot
Ya but again it definitely needs a rewatch for better understanding the movie.
its so much better second time
but u do need imax 70mm
kind robin
Haven't watched it again but I'm sure it is
hearty pilot
i saw once in imax
and once in 70mm
u need both
imax has theatre shaking
70mm is amazing quality
huge diff
pseudo arrow
Ya but again it definitely needs a rewatch for better understanding the movie.
Yeah true, it was a lot
Still wondering to myself if I can do another rewatch lol
pseudo arrow
what format u watch in?
Imax laser
hearty pilot
70mm time
pseudo arrow
I wanna try to do imax 70mm but the nearest one is far but hearing the rumors of damages is making me decide
hearty pilot
I wanna try to do imax 70mm but the nearest one is far but hearing the rumors of...
how far
pseudo arrow
An hour and a half far
round quail
70mm is amazing quality
candid mantle
nah standard was fine
deep glen
Yeah standard was not that bad
hearty pilot
its op
candid mantle
standard really isn't that bad lol
round quail
this film would be great on all formats
candid mantle
like yea the experience would be better in 70mm but its that big of a difference in my eyes
pseudo arrow
Ngl I felt kinda disappointed that the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombing wasn’t featured but I felt a bit it wasn’t necessary since this was more towards oppie, the man himself
deep glen
I wish I saw it in IMAX but there's sadly no IMAX theaters near where I live. 😭
hearty pilot
like yea the experience would be better in 70mm but its that big of a difference...
when u see 70mm digital looks like trash 😭
round quail
eh its not that noticeable
kind robin
Ngl I felt kinda disappointed that the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombing wasn’t feat...
Yes but a scene was shown where they were discussing targets to hit Japanese cities like the Secretary of defence literally said Kyoto wasn't gonna be bombed because he honeymooned there
round quail
the b&w did look a bit different on film versus digital
deep glen
Sounds like an interesting campaign and protest.
STOP FORMAT SHAMING!!!!
pseudo arrow
Yes but a scene was shown where they were discussing targets to hit Japanese cit...
Thank god for that mf, imma be going to Kyoto next spring lmao
candid mantle
i dont even watch movies in imax anymore shit is a scam
the difference is so little
round quail
depends if its real or not
pseudo arrow
My brother is 100% not going to like this film
quartz yoke
imax is nice just because its a guarantee that the image and sound will be good
hearty pilot
why
pseudo arrow
He’s seeing it tomorrow with his friends
candid mantle
i watched top gun mav in both imax and standard and the difference was like... nothing 😂 felt the same
hearty pilot
i watched top gun mav in both imax and standard and the difference was like... n...
i saw in standard twice
quartz yoke
half the time i go to a standard theater and it'll be too quiet or the projector isn't properly calibrated
hearty pilot
He ain’t film nerds like us
rip
quartz yoke
and also i just like Big Screen
hearty pilot
half the time i go to a standard theater and it'll be too quiet or the projector...
for 70mm oppenheimer they fucked up projector for universal thing
candid mantle
half the time i go to a standard theater and it'll be too quiet or the projector...
this has only happened to me once
and that was when i saw Nope
quartz yoke
even if its just a smaller digital imax
like half the theaters in my town are like that where they have some screens that are bad
candid mantle
the theater i go to is pretty nice, so the screens and sounds are great
round quail
half the time i go to a standard theater and it'll be too quiet or the projector...
ironically day 1 70mm imax projector had power issues and died after 10 seconds lol
that was fun
hearty pilot
ironically day 1 70mm imax projector had power issues and died after 10 seconds ...
at ur showing?
round quail
yes
candid mantle
the closest 70mm near me is in a whole different state lol
hearty pilot
for spiderverse second time they played 20 mins of movie then went back to trailers and restarted movie
😂
hearty pilot
the closest 70mm near me is in a whole different state lol
damn
candid mantle
i wanna rewatch this movie in subtitles
pseudo arrow
But man I feel bad for Oppenheimer. He turned science into a weapon, He’s haunted by the blood he has on his hands and his theory of mankind destroy itself slowly came true with the Cold War, and the nightmares he had after the Manhattan project
candid mantle
sometimes its hard to understand wtf they're saying
i sort of disliked how sometimes the music overpowered the lines of dialouge
hearty pilot
i loved music
candid mantle
RDJ in this film was amazing, i feel like his oscar is on lock
hearty pilot
i was listening to soundtrack during run
hearty pilot
RDJ in this film was amazing, i feel like his oscar is on lock
ez pz
candid mantle
I loved the music too
pseudo arrow
RDJ in this film was amazing, i feel like his oscar is on lock
Yeah he is amazing. Oppenheimer felt like a wake up call from being in the MCU for too long
hearty pilot
matt damon was matt damon
pseudo arrow
Yeah lmao
candid mantle
Yeah RDJ was always a great actor but him doing over a decade of movies where he's playing a comedic type of character, people forgot.
hearty pilot
Yeah RDJ was always a great actor but him doing over a decade of movies where he...
this was rdj masterclass
candid mantle
prob cillian also
Probably. We'll have to see how Leo does in KOFM
hearty pilot
yea
that movie gonna slap
ong
leo so fat in it
😂
like wtf
cillian is like why couldnt i get fat role
😭
pseudo arrow
So hyped for this movie, planning to read the book
candid mantle
I'm also looking forward to Napoleon
hearty pilot
the cast in kofm is insane
pseudo arrow
I'm also looking forward to Napoleon
That as well
A film that kubrick wanted to do and Scott Ridley is fulfilling the vision
hearty pilot
I'm also looking forward to Napoleon
idk
candid mantle
KOFM got a bigger budget than Oppenheimer 😭
hearty pilot
what is budget
pseudo arrow
200 million
hearty pilot
.
damn
apple be rich
W
barbie 300m
Just fucking amazing
It’s so funny that WB clearly put Barbie up on July 21st out of pettiness at Nolan but it ended up helping both films anyway in the best possible way
pseudo arrow
It’s so funny that WB clearly put Barbie up on July 21st out of pettiness at Nol...
Yeah even tho putting these films together was out for petty revenge. It gave a positive impact not only just both films, but for theaters as well
hearty pilot
both are totally diff
candid mantle
Oppenheimer is already a classic. It might be Nolan's second best movie
hearty pilot
Oppenheimer is already a classic. It might be Nolan's second best movie
best is interstellar
right?
candid mantle
noo
candid mantle
will always be his best in my eyes
hearty pilot
heath ledger goated
i speak no hyperbole
i speak no bullshit
i speak no horseshit
i speak real shit
hearty pilot
best nolan movie is interstellar
candid mantle
heath ledger goated
hearty pilot
well that's just not nice at all ain't it
and nolan's actual best film is The Prestige
candid mantle
yea inception and prestige are better imo
hearty pilot
nah
candid mantle
than interstellar
deep glen
The Dark Knight is my favorite comic book movie. But I wouldn't call it my favorite Christopher Nolan movie.
kind robin
I'm surprised that at the end of the movie it wasn't shown that in 2022 Department of Energy basically exonerated Oppenheimer and nullified the decision to strip his security clearance
I also know some people have said, stuff about taking the land away while building Los alamos wasn't mentioned or the fact about aftermath of Trinity test
Trinity Nuclear Test’s Fallout Reached 46 States, Canada and Mexico, Study Finds https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/science/trinity-nuclear-test-atomic-bomb-oppenheimer.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
fiery river
Be Rami Malek
Make two non speaking appearances in early scenes of the movie
Show up towards the end and absolutely torpedo RDJ lol
pseudo arrow
>Be Rami Malek
>Make two non speaking appearances in early scenes of the movie
>...
yeah he was barely there and decides to fucking Destroy Strauss/RDJ
hearty pilot
hearty pilot
is this not the trinity test??
fiery river
yeah he was barely there and decides to fucking Destroy Strauss/RDJ
I was beginning to wonder if he had a bigger role that managed to be cut down to essentially non speaking or something but then he rolls in to give the people the hope spot that not every scheming dickhead gets away with it
That whole vendetta over him assuming Oppenheimer was talking shit about him to Einstein lol
pseudo arrow
That whole vendetta over him assuming Oppenheimer was talking shit about him to ...
yeah makes me assume that Strauss is a very sensitive person back then, with an ego
round quail
fiery river
Also I can’t believe how one of the more stressful sequences in a film of this caliber was solely just about describing how terrifying a man Boris Pash is
pseudo arrow
insane to me that Josh from fucking Drake and Josh is the man who launched the first atom bomb in the trinity test
lyric patio
The testing of the bomb was by far the best scene in the movie in my opinion, really nerve-wracking even though you know it's going to work
I also loved how for a movie whose subject matter is so grounded in reality it blends reality and fantasy
mellow vale
Oppenheimer twitter is a hellscape
coarse horizon
I actually enjoyed this film more than Barbie. It was intense.
I just found the Lewis Strauss stuff kinda confusing.
I was more compelled by Oppenheimer’s story about him developing the bomb and assembling the team of scientists to create it. That was thrilling.
I found the courtroom stuff kinda hard to follow.
coarse horizon
But man I feel bad for Oppenheimer. He turned science into a weapon, He’s haunte...
Truman mocking him in the Oval Office made me feel awful for him despite how flawed he was.
coarse horizon
RDJ in this film was amazing, i feel like his oscar is on lock
Did you get the sense that we overacted here? I admire him for trying to step out of his comfort zone but I felt like he was trying too hard here.
pseudo arrow
Truman mocking him in the Oval Office made me feel awful for him despite how fla...
He created it, him being the scapegoat for the japanese won't suffice Oppie
coarse horizon
He created it, him being the scapegoat for the japanese won't suffice Oppie
What do you mean scapegoat? Didn’t Truman say that he would take ownership and responsibility as President ?
pseudo arrow
What do you mean scapegoat? Didn’t Truman say that he would take ownership and r...
yeah let the japanese blame truman instead of Oppenheimer, which Oppenheimer is depressed by his creation which wont work
coarse horizon
yeah let the japanese blame truman instead of Oppenheimer, which Oppenheimer is ...
Ah I see. Yeah, he did get a sense of regret. But if he didn’t do it, someone else would have, so he figured why not him?
His conversations with Einstein about how history would remember you was compelling.
How do you deal with the way history remembers you?
pseudo arrow
and I'm still thankful to that military official who didn't bomb Kyoto, gonna be visiting it next spring
pseudo arrow
How do you deal with the way history remembers you?
yeah that ending was chilling
coarse horizon
Yeah, war is just complex and harsh, I’m afraid.
candid mantle
Did you get the sense that we overacted here? I admire him for trying to step ou...
Out of his comfortable zone? He’s played serious roles before lol. And what do you mean he was “trying too hard”
coarse horizon
Out of his comfortable zone? He’s played serious roles before lol. And what do y...
I think he overacted here. That’s what I meant.
candid mantle
I thought RDJ played the character very well, an Oscar worthy performance
candid mantle
I think he overacted here. That’s what I meant.
I mean most, if not all biopics are overacted or has overacting. it kinda has to.
fiery river
I am firmly against the weird anti-Rami sentiment that started because folk felt he shouldnt have won the Oscar
The guy is a great fucking actor, though there are certain types of character I wouldnt seek him out for
pseudo arrow
Collecting more and more of my thoughts. Oppenheimer is truly an amazing film
Up there one of Nolan’s best works
Changed my LB rating from a 4.5 to a 5
digital harness
5 is the truly goated
digital harness
I am firmly against the weird anti-Rami sentiment that started because folk felt...
that shithshow made people forget how good mr robot was
fiery river
Im constantly always about to send folk a "don't make me tap the sign" meme with a link to his monologue in Season 4 episode 11 but pull back because of spoilers
but if anyone ever is like saying he's actually bad, that's all the proof I need to know he aint
hearty pilot
Does this movie have uh
Explicit nudity?
I'm asking because here they censor everything Spider-Man got like an R rating for half that f word
outer brook
There's nudity,for about a minute and a half
fiery river
>Be Rami Malek
>Make two non speaking appearances in early scenes of the movie
>...
“You come here and absolutely ruin my bid for the Cabinet. And after I got you a role in Doolittle”
“It was critically panned and it flopped”
kind robin
Funny
mellow vale
>Be Rami Malek
>Make two non speaking appearances in early scenes of the movie
>...
Don't pay attention, don't see the bullet
merry spoke
I feel we should be mentioning James Remar more
Not really a "Wow" appearance but like "Oh neat it's James Remar"
paper hatch
Explicit nudity?
sex including a||book|| , sex on a||chair|| , sex in a ||courtroom||. There you go. And that's not even covering the nudity. If spider man got an R rating than idk about this movie
wary flame
It's so unnecessary though lol
modest ravine
It's so unnecessary though lol
I think it was
The whole point of that scene was showing the psychological effects of a cheating husband.
wary flame
I'm single so I don't see it
modest ravine
Oh
rough shore
deep glen
Explicit nudity?
It's not that bad or long.
hearty pilot
Lol there were people behind me giggling lol
Yeah some people kept giggling like there were jokes in the movie or something
wary flame
"So when is this place goin to open, Heimer?"
mellow vale
"Shut up, Little Boy."
deep glen
My theater was silent throughout.
tiny fox
this movie did have a profound effect on me. Do you guys think this is a positive thing to introduce to the world as we are going have more interest in nuclear war and maybe have more conversations trying to stop it or will the dramatization of it cause more people to take internet in nuclear war and inspire others to dive deeper?
kind robin
I think it is yes as the threat of nuclear war is still present and knowing how the bomb was made and used is important
hearty pilot
All I know is by the end I was thinking
We are so fucked
All it takes is one madman
jaunty steeple
Conversation about nukes pretty much never stopped, especially with the ongoing conflict in Europe. A movie that goes out of its way to show how it ravaged the mind of its maker, ending with images of potential annihilation, can only be a deterrent.
blazing notch
this movie did have a profound effect on me. Do you guys think this is a positiv...
I don’t think so
The people that are deep into it already are
hearty pilot
I agree
blazing notch
This will be something people think about for an hour every so often and move on
hearty pilot
I don’t think a casual audience is gonna care much
My audience just got up and left at the end like it was nothing lol
blazing notch
Onto the next movie
kind robin
Well they may discuss with families and friends though
hearty pilot
Onto the next movie
Exactly
hearty pilot
Well they may discuss with families and friends though
Some, maybe yeah
blazing notch
Nothing wider is going to change or be impacted really
kind robin
The great thing is that the movie was a big success.. like how often do people go and watch a 3 hr long drama esp in this age of short attention span
blazing notch
Nolan
hearty pilot
I watched everyone just get up and leave whilst I was at the end soaking everything in
kind robin
I'm grateful that this movie exists like yes I knew about Oppenheimer a little but still got to know more and I personally now wanna read American prometheus
hearty pilot
I really enjoyed this one
hearty pilot
The great thing is that the movie was a big success.. like how often do people g...
Barely
kind robin
This was great
hearty pilot
I was absolutely immersed and I’m glad I got to see a Nolan movie in the cinema
kind robin
Same
hearty pilot
For me it’s about experiences
Which is why I went to see this and Barbie next week
Gotta take your chances
In the theater rn for this
The acting was so great throughout
Should I get out of here before I get this spoiled
The facial expressions and blank stares on Cillain’s face
RDJ doing so well in a vindictive role
Even all the small moments and scenes from the stacked cast
kind robin
Ya
kind robin
Oh she was great as always
hearty pilot
I particularly liked the interrogation scenes
Those were so great and intense
wary flame
All it takes is one madman
I feel this so much. I am so afraid.
frigid ledge
josh from drake and josh only got cast just to push the button
kind robin
And a lot of people had expected 45 to 50 million dollars domestic opening for Oppenheimer but it is 80 million dollars which is the biggest for Nolan outside Batman trilogy
hearty pilot
Emily Blunt brilliant
Both Florence Pugh and Emily did good imo
kind robin
Pugh was kinda wasted a bit
hearty pilot
Pugh was kinda wasted a bit
Her role was very small anyway
kind robin
That's true
hearty pilot
She was mostly in the first act of the movie
How great were those bomb shakes in the cinema 😩
kind robin
The cast was so stacked and so many important scientists were shown.. after watching the movie I was just looking at who was who and their contributions
hearty pilot
How great were those bomb shakes in the cinema 😩
Where you see Cillians visions
And everything goes white
Chilling
frigid ledge
that aspect was shown beautifully
hearty pilot
Man I wanna watch again 😭
merry spoke
Worth the extra money for IMAX
frigid ledge
hiroshima bombing
wary flame
The suspense is done so well.
frigid ledge
it really nailed what exactly he was feeling
hearty pilot
I do wish we got a bit more of those horrifying scenes
frigid ledge
the editing was done so well
hearty pilot
I do wish we got a bit more of those horrifying scenes
Would’ve been spine chilling
frigid ledge
if anything the movie should atleast be nominated for the editing
hearty pilot
What did you guys think of the musical score? I thought it was amazing
kind robin
I loved the narrative structure too like this wasn't linear but done in a different way with those hearings
frigid ledge
score for beautiful
merry spoke
I do wish we got a bit more of those horrifying scenes
I think that's part of the issue for Oppenheimer. He was working on a science project in the desert. Far away from the horror of his creation.
frigid ledge
honestly the more i think about the movie the more i believe i didnt give it a fair score
of a 4/5
the story is something that sticks with you
merry spoke
Gotta look up the track that incorporated the Geiger counter rattle
hearty pilot
I think that's part of the issue for Oppenheimer. He was working on a science pr...
True, although some more scenes of him being tested by his guilt and the morality of the situation would’ve added a more scary effect
frigid ledge
you start to realize what oppie was thinking during those crucial moments. the moments that do not get explained outright
kind robin
I have already listened to the whole score at least once and it is just wonderful
hearty pilot
Cinematography was great as well
kind robin
Yes
frigid ledge
imagine trying to devise a nuclear bomb to take out the nazis because theyre robbing his people of their humanity, but as time passed by that goal could not be met. instead the US decided to use it in Japan which is already in a state of surrender
hearty pilot
It is a bit of a different one if you think about it. It takes on solely Oppenheimers perspective with RDJ playing the antagonist role in the process and investigation
merry spoke
There are so many moral dilemmas entwined in this path that it's almost impossible to gain real clarity
hearty pilot
It is a bit of a different one if you think about it. It takes on solely Oppenhe...
Instead of showing other countries and the impact it had on them or Russia who were also in the race
It subverts expectations in a way
frigid ledge
RDJ was true in saying that this is nolans magnum opus
hearty pilot
Real
It’s different to what people are used to and I’m glad lots of people went
My cinema was empty at time of booking and when I went to see it, every seat was sold out
blazing notch
See this interesting graphic
frigid ledge
the more i think about it
hearty pilot
I’ve not seen Barbie yet
frigid ledge
oppenheimer
blazing notch
You know the good thing about Barbenheimer is that it was never a vs
frigid ledge
barbie was great and amazing dont get me wrong
blazing notch
It’s a celebration of both movies
hearty pilot
Plus it’s kinda difficult to compare the two
frigid ledge
yeah
merry spoke
My screening had some people clearly dressed for Barbie. Younger people too. I wonder what they ended up thinking about this.
frigid ledge
i enjoyed both
blazing notch
modest ravine
Plus it’s kinda difficult to compare the two
True
hearty pilot
i enjoyed both
Based movie enjoyer
tiny fox
Conversation about nukes pretty much never stopped, especially with the ongoing ...
I’m more referring to public opinion, when a movie of this scale and reach talks about something this political, it does have a wave on society, it will be felt in a decade
hearty pilot
I watched on 35mm 💀
frigid ledge
i watched in regular cinema lol
hearty pilot
i watched in regular cinema lol
Same, although I think it’s 35mm not sure what the exact ratio is for that usually
frigid ledge
how was it in 70mm
tiny fox
how was it in 70mm
It was absolutely gorgeous
frigid ledge
fucking awesome
i think sound would be better in IMAX but im not sure. cuz regular theater i went to had muddled sound at points
tiny fox
The last movie I watched on film was licorche pizza and that scan was popping like crazy
hearty pilot
Actually mine might’ve been 70mm but I’m not sure coz the image wasn’t too square as shown here
wary flame
i think sound would be better in IMAX but im not sure. cuz regular theater i wen...
You are not alone :)
tiny fox
i think sound would be better in IMAX but im not sure. cuz regular theater i wen...
The mix is just muddled in places throughout
frigid ledge
darn nolan thinking everybody would be seated at the front
tiny fox
My girlfriend saw it in imax and we both said it was hard to hear sometimes
frigid ledge
just sit at the front as nolan intends
hearty pilot
I think that classic Nolan sound mixing lol
The music does overtake the dialogue at points
frigid ledge
i know i noticed that too
merry spoke
Once again need subtitles
hearty pilot
I think it happened a lot with Tenet but it was much worse
merry spoke
Or maybe he can just flatten the dialogue audio a bit
hearty pilot
Once again need subtitles
They should make subtitles mandatory especially if there’s idiots talking in the cinema
hearty pilot
I might do too
wary flame
The music does overtake the dialogue at points
It might have been too basey at some points
wary flame
Somethin' wrong with screen 7 then
frigid ledge
nolan all about that bass
wary flame
Oppie got into a lot of treble
wary flame
I am very used to subtitles so when a film's mixing is to the point of me not hearing most of it, I just need them brr
merry spoke
With a dialogue heavy film like this it's even more important
merry spoke
With Dunkirk for instance you barely even need dialogue at all
wary flame
With a dialogue heavy film like this it's even more important
Even so my ADHD was going brr in multiple places, very glad I've got other people to tell people like us what happened.
frigid ledge
i didnt have anyone we were all confused lol
simple violet
My theater seemed to be full of teenagers that didn’t realize it would be a dialogue-driven 3 hour biopic and just saw that it was the director of the dark knight so people kept going on their phones/sighing really loudly/leaving the theater as a group
Unlucky
But everyone I went with didn’t move at all until the film ended
Was absolutely wild
kind robin
Twitter
hearty pilot
deep glen
https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1683128794096230401?s=46&t=fhPx7RAOc-5...
NOLAN DOES IT AGAIN LADS!!! WOOHOO!!
hearty pilot
NOLAN DOES IT AGAIN LADS!!! WOOHOO!!
when barbie makes double
wicked breach
when barbie makes double
Well that’s because it’s Barbie
hearty pilot
when barbie makes double
Barbie makes double because it's a more accessible movie?
Like it's just a dumb thing to say lmao ofc Barbie's gonna make more
Exactly
visual summit
Such an amazing movie
Nolan’s best in years recent years, top 3 atm but we’ll see on rewatch
jade turret
when barbie makes double
Well yeah nobody is expecting it to come close to barbie but they’re both hits
pseudo arrow
This hits different after the ending
Yeah those raindrops appear again at the end at Einstein’s conversation
hearty pilot
Yeah those raindrops appear again at the end at Einstein’s conversation
Ripple effect
Chain reaction
🔥
lusty cedar
Me and my co-worker went see this movie last night (we both work with nuke), we just quietly say to each other. See you at work on monday
Lol
pseudo arrow
Chain reaction
Yeah because of how the world will destroy itself with the weapons oppie has given to the world
Yeah this movie deserves a rewatch
So insane that this movie made $175 million. Going beyond the budget
lunar wraith
to me its really interesting how nolan went from tenet which was incredibly concept/plot driven film and no focus on character at all to this which is so so much about the character and his psyche
and i liked this way more maybe cos i didnt fully ever end up getting tenet
simple violet
to me its really interesting how nolan went from tenet which was incredibly conc...
Yeah, tenet was intentionally not about character because it was completely about how covert operatives are not able to have characters at all
Pretty cool contrast to this
simple violet
Yes
merry spoke
Truman had no regrets or second thoughts
simple violet
He thought he was weak for being emotionally affected by the bombing
merry spoke
And was maybe just a dick in general
coarse horizon
I mean Truman has blood on his hand more than Oppenheimer did, obviously because he ordered the bomb to be dropped.
simple violet
But he didn’t care
lusty cedar
Truman was the one who made the decision to use the bomb. He just got annoyed with Oppenheimer for being "over-dramatic" with his role
coarse horizon
I mean it kinda depicts Truman as heartless in some way. But I think strong leaders have to be strong I suppose.
lusty cedar
From his POV. Don't throw rock at me
merry spoke
He wasn't totally wrong about Oppenheimer wanting to have it both ways
coarse horizon
Truman was the one who made the decision to use the bomb. He just got annoyed wi...
Ah that makes sense. Oppenheimer has sort of a weird ego I suppose.
simple violet
I mean it kinda depicts Truman as heartless in some way. But I think strong lead...
It’s a real thing Truman said it’s not a depiction either
lusty cedar
In the book, they did said Oppenheimer tends to be overdramatic and ego driven
coarse horizon
It’s a real thing Truman said it’s not a depiction either
Yeah, I just looked it up. Whoa, he just told it like he is. US Presidents back then had real balls. Lol.
merry spoke
Tenet checks more Nolan boxes
pseudo arrow
to me its really interesting how nolan went from tenet which was incredibly conc...
Personally, Tenet is the most Nolan-ny film I’ve ever seen
simple violet
I still like Tenet more than this but both great
lunar wraith
Personally, Tenet is the most Nolan-ny film I’ve ever seen
and oppenheimer the least?
merry spoke
Dunkirk is probably the least
lusty cedar
The movie didn't show enough how asshole Edward teller was lol
lusty cedar
I got bored with Dunkirk tbh. But tenet was the first movie that I walked out of a theater
lunar wraith
dunkirk is another idk what i think about it
i was particularly surprised by the sex in this one
lusty cedar
Tenet is a decent movie to watch at home. Can't hear shit in a theater though
pseudo arrow
I got bored with Dunkirk tbh. But tenet was the first movie that I walked out of...
Same, but I was like 13 when I watched it during theaters. Prolly gonna do a rewatch
merry spoke
I think Dunkirk is the leanest, meanest version of Nolan. Almost entirely visual storytelling and big set pieces
pseudo arrow
and oppenheimer the least?
Still deciding that on myself, prolly gonna do a rewatch when I have the time
Hopefully I can rewatch it on imax 70mm
lusty cedar
I truly like oppenheimer but not sure if I would be willing to watch it again. It's a 3h movie lol
pseudo arrow
https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-sweep-gif-26353246
What ever happened to the livestream timer?
Forgot to check that in
blazing notch
It played a featurette when it ended
pseudo arrow
It played a featurette when it ended
Ah ok
blazing notch
Didn’t miss out on anything
fiery river
Why do people insist on being insufferable in the theatre https://twitter.com/PeachyKneeSocks/status/1682740094506082307
pseudo arrow
Why do people insist on being insufferable in the theatre https://twitter.com/Pe...
Bro 😭
upper cipher
Why do people insist on being insufferable in the theatre https://twitter.com/Pe...
do you even watch the movie like this
fiery river
I can’t imagine anyone would, they’re too self absorbed
pseudo arrow
Feel bad for the people who had to be really up front
crude wraith
Omw to the theater again
hearty pilot
Just got back from watching this
jade turret
Feel bad for the people who had to be really up front
Waking up after being drugged only to find yourself sitting, staring up at a giant chinned Cillian Murphy
hearty pilot
did anyone else think that Oppie’s speech was in German and not Dutch?
hard cave
deutsch is german
deep glen
Feel bad for the people who had to be really up front
oof
hearty pilot
Feel bad for the people who had to be really up front
Can’t imagine the neck pain lol
reef wigeon
We know now who killed JF Kennedy
hearty pilot
Hurts looking at that pic
deep glen
Uh oh, political argument going on in regular movies chat
hearty pilot
Uh oh, political argument going on in regular movies chat
Going for third time tmr
😂
hearty pilot
deutsch is german
yes but they say "dutch" not "doych" in the movie
coarse horizon
Grace Randolph whining about why the film didn’t show the actual Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. Did the film need to show those bombings to make an impact?
simple violet
yes but they say "dutch" not "doych" in the movie
It can sound like that
But he was saying Deutsch
hearty pilot
Oppenheimer Review : Its a 'Pop'penheimer!
Movie going 'creme-de-la-creme' like me after a point can sense if we are watching a masterpiece or gibberish in the disguise of a masterpiece. It’s been 25 years that Nolan has been making movies , about time he learned how to compose a scene or evoke basic emotions from the audience. Some might say its a Biopic, doesn't have to evoke any emotions, then what was La Vie en Rose/ The Pianist/ A Beautiful Mind/ The Aviator? This movie is as superficial as it gets , it’s like watching Terrence Mallick without the beauty, watching Paul Thomas Anderson without the scope of imagery or watching Kubrick without the impact. Major portion of the movie just looked like the movie needs some Adderall for its ADHD tone. Editing is just so bad, looked so much like I was watching a Michael Bay movie. Though the movie is set in 1940s, actors body language, style of delivery & slang is so modern in nature.
Movie does have some merits like some great performances by Matt Damon & the guy that played 'Albert Einstein'. It has some great cinematography & becomes more serious during the third act.
Dialogue driven movies are enjoyable if they have a style to them like most Aaron Sorkin movies 'The Social Network' or Moneyball . Oppenheimer is dialogue heavy but lacks any style or impact. Another issue is one-dimensional depiction of all the Physicists, like all Physicists are just shallow snobs. Cillian Murphy though looks like Oppenheimer, just hams through the lines through major portion of the movie. Emily Blunt is so miscast in this movie, its not 'A Quiet Place Emily!'. Robert Downey Jr. was good. Its definitely going to win most major Oscars like Best Picture, Best Director & Best Supporting Actor just because of the theme of the movie & Nolan not having one so far.
Oppenheimer is more like 'Pop'penheimer, fizz runs out midway, all you are left with is some corn syrup.
Rating : 2/5
crude wraith
deutsch is german
They clearly say dutch
crude wraith
did anyone else think that Oppie’s speech was in German and not Dutch?
Yes it was in german
round quail
did anyone else think that Oppie’s speech was in German and not Dutch?
he has given a speech before in Dutch though 😁
hearty pilot
Yes it was in german
why does one of the characters call it “dutch” when referring to it then?
can’t remember his name
crude wraith
Izzy
crude wraith
why does one of the characters call it “dutch” when referring to it then?
Not sure thought it was weird
hearty pilot
the guy who declines when offered to work in the manhattan project
crude wraith
Yeah his name is izzy something
round quail
isidor rabi
crude wraith
Maybe it was plain stupidity, deutsh and dutch pretty similar
crude wraith
isidor rabi
Yes
hearty pilot
Maybe it was plain stupidity, deutsh and dutch pretty similar
yeah but it would be a weird detail to include if intentional
and i doubt it wasn’t intentional
also they were speaking in english, why not just say the word “german”
idfk
merry spoke
Why doesn't Nolan make his dialogue audible? Mysteries abound
round quail
So we can hear Ludwigs banging score
hearty pilot
Why doesn't Nolan make his dialogue audible? Mysteries abound
the rest of the sound design was fucking amazing too
pseudo arrow
So we can hear Ludwigs banging score
Ludwig so goated
merry spoke
The last time I remember having this problem was with Tenet
It's literally just Nolan
hearty pilot
when kitty said “take care” to oppie before the trinity trial i couldn’t hear it properly at first
full bough
Well this was a big fucking movie
fiery river
Oppenheimer was opulent
proper stone
This mfer was one of my favorite castings in the movie.
Wish we could get more DeHaan.
fiery river
Seems he's starting to recover from TASM 2
round quail
ahaha
merry spoke
Would that it were so simple
coarse horizon
Would that it were so simple
Haha Hail Caesar! reference.
fiery river
I found Hail Caesar disappointing tbh
hearty pilot
This mfer was one of my favorite castings in the movie.
We had a lot of big names and familiar faces in this movie
And everyone ATE
full bough
Seems he's starting to recover from TASM 2
He was such a jackass on that set
fiery river
yeah?
hearty pilot
I'm fortunate enough to live a ~25 minute drive from one of the...fifteen or so 15/70 IMAX engagements of Oppenheimer in the world. I have a few questions.
-
Is Oppenheimer a film you really should see with friends, or is it okay to watch it alone? It's like eating out for dinner, you know? It's better when you're with friends or loved ones.
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The nuke scene is on YT. Should I go into this film completely blind to not spoil the surprise? I have ADHD and can be hypersensitive to sound, so my reasoning is if I watch the nuke scene on YT first, the sensory assault won't overwhelm me. Or should I only come into the film having watched the trailer and/or read spoiler-free reviews?
3a. I've been looking at matinee 70mm showings but only the front row seats aren't sold out. Not worth it? Should I keep looking for tickets further back?
3b. Cineplex only lets you buy tickets up to a week in advance. When do new tickets drop? Midnight EDT?
- Besides IMAX 70mm, there are various formats in which to see Oppenheimer. UltraAVX (Metrotown, Scotiabank, Marine Gateway, Coquitlam, Park Royal + Recliner), VIP (Brentwood and Park Royal with recliner, Coquitlam and Marine Gateway without), LieMAX (Riverport, Saturdays only), 70mm non-IMAX (Park Theatre on Cambie). How do they all compare?
Thank you.
round quail
I'm fortunate enough to live a ~25 minute drive from one of the...fifteen or so ...
- Either is fine
- Its not what you think I dont know how to explain this to you without spoiling but you should be fine. The buildup to Trinity is very tense. If you are worried I would just watch it.
- Look for further back, front row in IMAX is not good. I cant speak for the rest of ur questions
round quail
hearty pilot
1. Either is fine
2. Its not what you think I dont know how to explain this to y...
How does the buildup being tense relate to being able to watch Trinity beforehand and not get spoiled? I'm a bit confused.
simple violet
I'm fortunate enough to live a ~25 minute drive from one of the...fifteen or so ...
It’s not a sensory assault
Don’t watch on YouTube
You should be fine
There are other scenes that are louder and more jarring in general
round quail
How does the buildup being tense relate to being able to watch Trinity beforehan...
Im just mentioning it because of your sensory stuff. If you want you could bring ear muffs or something and put them on during loud scenes
hearty pilot
It’s not a sensory assault
Alright, I'll go in blind. But watching the trailer won't spoil anything important, right?
simple violet
Also it’s ok to see it by yourself. It’s not a funny movie so it’s not like you’ll be laughing with others or anything. It’s a mostly solitary experience
hearty pilot
Im just mentioning it because of your sensory stuff. If you want you could bring...
That's a good idea. Thanks.
round quail
Alright, I'll go in blind. But watching the trailer won't spoil anything importa...
nope
hearty pilot
Also it’s ok to see it by yourself. It’s not a funny movie so it’s not like you’...
Is Barbie the same?
simple violet
Alright, I'll go in blind. But watching the trailer won't spoil anything importa...
No it won’t. This trailer is great and doesn’t spoil anything
simple violet
Is Barbie the same?
No Barbie is something you’ll definitely wanna see with friends
If you have to see it alone it’ll still be fun but I’d prefer going with others
If you’re able to see it 70mm imax that’s definitely the best way to see it but if not it’s ok. I wouldn’t sit close to the screen
hearty pilot
No Barbie is something you’ll definitely wanna see with friends
Friends...I need to find some of those 
hearty pilot
If you’re able to see it 70mm imax that’s definitely the best way to see it but ...
How close is too close? For the Friday 2pm show only the first four rows are available. I think Cineplex drops new tickets on Wednesdays but I don't know at what time.
blazing notch
Why do people insist on being insufferable in the theatre https://twitter.com/Pe...
I’m convinced ‘film fans’ would literally rather do anything other than actually watch a film
round quail
How close is too close? For the Friday 2pm show only the first four rows are ava...
from what I see row f-j would be better, just wait till wednesday
simple violet
How close is too close? For the Friday 2pm show only the first four rows are ava...
If you could choose anywhere I would say here. I’m not sure if it would be too close unfortunately
If it’s on the side and in the fourth row it might be too close cause it’s not in the middle
You’ll have a weird curve
hearty pilot
Thanks for the protips @simple violet, much appreciated
round quail
is this your screen?
simple violet
Np
hearty pilot
from what I see row f-j would be better, just wait till wednesday
Oh, another Canadian in the audience? 
Was I correct that ticket drops are on Wednesdays?
round quail
Im not sure when ticket drops are. You should have enough time to snag a good seat
hearty pilot
Im not sure when ticket drops are. You should have enough time to snag a good se...
Sure thing, thanks again man
round quail
of course have fun
pseudo arrow
https://vxtwitter.com/lecinephiles/status/1683102577200889856?s=46
Kenneth Branagh the new Michael Caine
wicked breach
Dunkirk was fantastic
proper stone
Vancouver bros 🤝
proper stone
Oh, another Canadian in the audience? <:tomlol:791126899866075197> Was I correct...
No.
proper stone
Langley has been weird, they dropped all their tickets on Friday morning.
hearty pilot
Vancouver bros 🤝
I live near SFU/Lake City area
hearty pilot
Langley has been weird, they dropped all their tickets on Friday morning.
Oh for the love of God, why do they have to be so idiosyncratic?
pale willow
I'm fortunate enough to live a ~25 minute drive from one of the...fifteen or so ...
if you can watch it with someone, that's nice, because there's a lot of dicsussion to be had after the movie
its okay if you watch it alone too, because you can discuss with us here!
simple violet
Twitter
paper hatch
to the people who watched it in a 70mm IMAX theatre, was it any different from any other IMAX screening? if so, how?
dawn grail
round quail
to the people who watched it in a 70mm IMAX theatre, was it any different from a...
saw it in IMAX laser and 70mm IMAX. For 70mm you can see the grain, small black marks, some artifacting aswell (which is not a bad thing it added to the experience). 70mm Imax was full frame for me which was far better.
mellow vale
this, there were moments where that occurred but it honestly added to the experience
proper aurora
too much booby not enough boomy
zenith spade
hearty pilot
I'm fortunate enough to live a ~25 minute drive from one of the...fifteen or so ...
See imax 70mm
neon sorrel
What do the stomping noises that are in the trailer represent? Obviously the source of the sound is revealed in the movie but whats the subtext of it?
hearty pilot
if you can watch it with someone, that's nice, because there's a lot of dicsussi...
Trying to find someone who's willing to come out with me to Langley and watch a 3 hour film would be...a hard sell.
Especially since I don't drive so I'm targeting a weekday afternoon screening.
jade turret
What do the stomping noises that are in the trailer represent? Obviously the sou...
It’s a scary noise made even scarier because it’s people cheering for the atomic bomb
Basically what makes it actually scary is that it’s real and it’s people celebrating so it can go either way
- It’s scary because it’s people cheering for what is effectively the beginning of the end
- It’s like the bomb in a way, you can just disregard it as something from a movie but then you remember it’s real, it’s a real man made thing
Second one is a bit of a stretch but it could apply
1st one is pretty much right
coarse horizon
I am fascinated by Kitty Oppenheimer.
She's clearly a flawed character.
She hates being a mother.
She hate Oppenheimer for cheating on her.
Yet she sees how brilliant Oppenheimer is and sticks by him realizing how important he is.
I don't know what that saids about women during that time.
I would have thought she'd left him.
pseudo arrow
I would have thought she'd left him.
As kitty is bad as a parent, I believe that Oppie is bad as well tbh
coarse horizon
As kitty is bad as a parent, I believe that Oppie is bad as well tbh
Yeah, that was insane for Oppie to just have his friends take care of the baby.
zenith spade
“Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. For this, he was chained to a rock and tortured for eternity.”
coarse horizon
But then again, Kitty was not in a good state and Oppie had work.
Brilliant innovative people consumed with their work don't really make good parents.
coarse horizon
**“Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. For this, he was chai...
Indeed. Haunting quote.
pseudo arrow
**“Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. For this, he was chai...
Nolan genius to make a connection with Prometheus
analog jasper
Lmao <@251330257779556352>
YES THATS WHAT I SAW
I WANNA SEE SOME TITTIES MAN
omg
A humble request
it's fucking
rated PG-13 here
like why dude
simple violet
That looks like dogshit lol
simple violet
Lmao
Wait so when Matt Damon goes “this is the most important fucking thing to happen in the history of the world” the fuck was censored?
simple violet
Oh ok that’s wild
simple violet
There’s multiple fucks in the movie usually pg-13 allows only one
Silly place to live
analog jasper
no the swear words are intact
The ratings here don't make sense
they usually just left out the sex but everything else is ok (even extreme violencE)
simple violet
Goober ass country ngl I’m sorry you have to live there
analog jasper
I'm sorry for myself as well
coarse horizon
Nolan genius to make a connection with Prometheus
Well the book he was adapting is called American Prometheus.
analog jasper
lol
frank hazel
pseudo arrow
Well the book he was adapting is called American Prometheus.
Oh yeah makes sense
analog jasper
simple violet
why’d Nolan change the dialogue so much
jade turret
“I felt sorry for them”
“But you knew it would kill them beforehand?”
“Yes”
“So you’re a hypocrite?”
“Nuh uh”
sly stump
"don't let that pussy back in here" was a crazy line
analog jasper
america was somethin else in the 1940s
analog jasper
I kinda expected him even tho I didn't know he was in the movie lol
sly stump
It's like with Wes Anderson you expect certain people but you don't know where they will show up
sly stump
Asteroid City was something else
It had several points it wanted to make and made them poorly
analog jasper
I don't have the biggest expectations like I did with The French Dispatch
But TFD did deliver for me
jade turret
It had several points it wanted to make and made them poorly
The point just being “you’re not supposed to get it” was just dumb
Like if you wanna do something deep and thoughtful, don’t pull a “oh there is no point!!!” Thing
It’s just lazy
lusty cedar
Kitty oppenheimer was 1 of the main factor for Oppies's downfall.
lusty cedar
It’s a scary noise made even scarier because it’s people cheering for the atomic...
Building a nuke is very very hard. For most engineers and scientists, we all get excited to see all the hard work pay off in a successful demonstration
jade turret
Building a nuke is very very hard. For most engineers and scientists, we all get...
Yeah but in this context it’s effectively the beginning of the end and what’s worse is that it’s not the people who made it but the general public
analog jasper
That final monologue
jade turret
That final monologue
“I think we did it”
quartz yoke
analog jasper
and the crowd goes wild
pseudo arrow
Yeah but in this context it’s effectively the beginning of the end and what’s wo...
yeah, I feel like those stomps from that rally of the successful trinity test was the beginning of the end and him imagining the nuke bombing at the ceremony was disturbing him greatly
jade turret
yeah, I feel like those stomps from that rally of the successful trinity test wa...
Yeah. Because he knows it’ll happen someday
Like someday it’s not just gonna be something In the paper someday it’ll be him experiencing his own creation
pseudo arrow
Yeah. Because he knows it’ll happen someday
one of the other details I really liked is the ripple effect/chain effect happening at the end, just like the beginning
signifying the chain reaction he predicted
jade turret
one of the other details I really liked is the ripple effect/chain effect happen...
I didn’t pick up on that at first but yeah it’s great
I don’t think this movie was in his favour and in my opinion rightfully so
He was a hypocrite
He has basically doomed us
And he knew everything that would happen
There is no real “good guy” in this
lusty cedar
It more complicated than that
jade turret
Besides maybe aldens character
pseudo arrow
I saw a lot of themes of betrayal in the film
jade turret
It more complicated than that
Yeah that’s true but I don’t think the movie is calling him a good person by any means
lusty cedar
No, he litterally tried to kill the professor
lusty cedar
Oppenheimer had some dark personality. The book makes it very clear
There are 3 books I would highly suggest reading to have a better understanding
American prometheous
Restricted data
The Evolution of nuclear strategy.
They probably would give everyone some really good context
pseudo arrow
how I saw the theme of betrayal is how Oppenheimer betrayed science and turned it into a weapon, Oppenheimer betraying his women, Cook betraying Oppie and giving the way to make the bomb to the russians, the country betraying oppie for his achievements of the nuke, and Oppenheimer betraying life itself
jade turret
He’s a very, very complicated man but I think at his core he’s just a bad person. He seems to often do something on a pure whim no matter who it harms but then tries to regret it. And I don’t think he actually did really regret anything, to me he was trying to make himself feel better
He knows what he did was wrong
But he can’t feel sorry for it
So he tried to
But he can’t
That’s my takeaway at least
sly stump
It’s just lazy
i got mad
lusty cedar
He definitely didn't regret building nuke. It was nessecary at the beginning of the program.
jade turret
He definitely didn't regret building nuke. It was nessecary at the beginning of ...
Yeah, I think as time went on he realised it would do more harm than good but again, to me he doesn’t seem to care. He tried to kill the professor on a whim and only tried to stop it when at the last second. With the bomb he realised his mistake too late
lusty cedar
I'm gonna look it up
jade turret
i got mad
Yeah. The asteroid city stuff was whatever but it was far more better than whatever preachy horseshit was going on with the play
lusty cedar
stunningly terrifying documentary
It was probably more boring than u think lol
jade turret
Yeah. The asteroid city stuff was whatever but it was far more better than whate...
You just cannot write a movie that is constantly interrupted with random segments that make no sense and expect me to be fine with it
sly stump
You just cannot write a movie that is constantly interrupted with random segment...
ok jeez im not Wes
lol
but yea im with you
jade turret
ok jeez im not Wes
Well I replied to myself (which means I’m arguing with myself which is worse butttt)
sly stump
therein lies the genius
jade turret
Wes Anderson is lucky that little song about the alien was an absolute banger because if not I’d never let that guy make a movie again
IMO one of the most overrated directors ever
Now
I love him
But still
He just seems to go downhill every time (not counting grand Budapest)
French dispatch was good
Isle of Dogs was good
But like
It all just feels a bit much
sly stump
recently watch fantastic fox for the first time, darling little movie
jade turret
He’s not taking enough time IMO
pseudo arrow
Yeah, I think as time went on he realised it would do more harm than good but ag...
yeah because he originally wanted to use the bomb on the nazis but instead its used on the japanese and his regret starts to begin
sly stump
too many actors means tight schedules for filming
sly stump
yeah because he originally wanted to use the bomb on the nazis but instead its u...
he was a hypocrite
jade turret
But like they don’t all have to be big names
If he just cast nobodies who fit the role it would be so much better
pseudo arrow
he was a hypocrite
yeah, such a complicated man
sly stump
he needs to bring it down a notch, back to his roots
lusty cedar
To be fair, I know people who works on nuke and despite the usage or the weapon itself.
For a lot of people, just a job
jade turret
To be fair, I know people who works on nuke and despite the usage or the weapon ...
I don’t think I could do it personally
I feel like nukes are just pure overkill
sly stump
yeah, such a complicated man
got obsessed, let his morals get corrupted and then when he created the ultimate weapon, he lost all control and it got used in the 1. what it was made for 2. the most unimaginable way possible. I put those in that order on purpose because at the end of the day
lusty cedar
That's perfectly fine
mellow robin
Oppenheimer is agreed upon to be a very very morally complicated character
sly stump
i just dont think its that complicated
mellow robin
I mean people are complicated by nature
sly stump
he wanted to be the best AND had to be the best
mellow robin
It's not black and white
pseudo arrow
thinking more and more of it, when the Los Alamos team were discussing about the bomb when Germany lost hitler, Oppie still encourage the bomb to be still built
sly stump
strauss saw it in black and white
jade turret
thinking more and more of it, when the Los Alamos team were discussing about the...
He realises his mistakes too late. It’s shown at the start with the Apple and him not being there for Jean
lusty cedar
thinking more and more of it, when the Los Alamos team were discussing about the...
When you work hard on it, it will be hard to just give up lol
pseudo arrow
He realises his mistakes too late. It’s shown at the start with the Apple and hi...
a man full of regrets
sly stump
In Oppenheimer, the color sequences represent the subjective point of view while black & white sequences represent the objective POV. im sure someone posted this aalready
the color essentially from oppies view and b/w from strauss view
lusty cedar
He's fueled by ego
The book did point that out with his attempt to wear military uniform, to start wearing the hat and to say the "I'm destroyer of the world"
sly stump
thinking more and more of it, when the Los Alamos team were discussing about the...
someone had to be the first threat of the world, turned out to be the U.S.
sly stump
is how I saw it
yupperooni
pseudo arrow
someone had to be the first threat of the world, turned out to be the U.S.
and gave birth to the cold war
south linden
I watched this again and enjoyed it more as a political drama
pseudo arrow
luckily my parents aren't born in the US and didn't have to face those concerns
lusty cedar
someone had to be the first threat of the world, turned out to be the U.S.
Not sure how you miss the nazi and Japan but ok
mellow robin
He's fueled by ego, power and obsession
sly stump
and gave birth to the cold war
which no one won, now everyone just has bombs, one touch away from lighting the sky on fire
jade turret
He's fueled by ego
He never thought about anything. He never cared about the consequences of what happened to others but it’s only in the moments before something of his creation happens he considers the consequences that would happen to HIM. That’s why he was full of regrets, it’s because it damaged his ego. It’s not because he killed innocents, no matter how much he wants himself to think that’s why it’s because it damaged him and him alone
south linden
I found the sequence where he poisons the apple and the trinity test looks like the apple pretty interesting, there's something definitely dark within him
sly stump
his prof was a dick in his eyes
pseudo arrow
I found the sequence where he poisons the apple and the trinity test looks like ...
it seemed like Oppie had mental health problems during his time in europe with his homesickness and all
sly stump
anyone who would stifle him is in his way
but then his moral compassed flipped and he got to the apple before something bad happened
sly stump
it seemed like Oppie had mental health problems during his time in europe with h...
that flash back he had of cold sweats
south linden
but then his moral compassed flipped and he got to the apple before something ba...
I'm wondering if he felt the same about the bomb?
sly stump
the govt is the teacher, and the bomb is the apple, he has lost control
he always loses the control he thinks he had
modest ravine
And I am become death, destroyer of worlds.
sly stump
he was supposed to get the medal from kennedy
jade turret
He’s a regretful man, he tries to convince himself it’s because of the people who suffered but really it’s only because every poor choice he made led to him suffering
sly stump
guess who got assassinated a week before the ceremony
LBJ made it a point to get him that medal on Oppie after Kennedy
lusty cedar
1 of the scariest moment in soviet history was probably the day after jfk assassination
pseudo arrow
the right orange
jade turret
Hmmm
Idk
Maybe
Honestly idk if I’d wanna watch in 70MM lol
All I’ve heard is it constantly having problems
And I’d imagine it’s because they had to quickly add an extension to every single one for the film reel
sly stump
i watched in 70MM not imax
pseudo arrow
what about this position?
sly stump
it was the music box chicago