#šŸ“ŗThe Last of Us (2023)

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limber geyser
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And a part of me thinks David choose that particular scripture because there probably people who are dispensationalists aka people that take the End Times literally, so that's like ammunition for him to use on gaslighting and manipulating

tame crag
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the apocalypse was ALWAYS, like literally from the start, a gaslighting device in the hands of religious peeps

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that's also one of the worst issues i have with catholic church and people, the frightening emotion is used to manipulate and not to teach stuff

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anyone else enjoyed baker as james anyway? It felt very weird for me lol

limber geyser
limber geyser
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it's gonna come crumbling down

tame crag
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indeed, i'm not adherent to any religion, but i find soothing to contemplate and meditate into stuff, so using religion to manipulate peeps (catholic church in italy? Anyone?) is a thing i could vomit about, and that's why i said david looks ALMOST a KINDA GOOD guy in the series

limber geyser
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A Buddhist to be exact but yeah, Christianity and Catholicism are guilty of using end times to advance this gaslighting mentality

tame crag
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you are wondering if it's just an hypocrite guy that has faith but does everything bad, while it's very clear he's just using stuff

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first time i felt they didn't understand fully the source material

limber geyser
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like now I'm not trying to say faith is bad, as Druckmann said in the podcast, faith can be a beautiful thing like love

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but it's easily corruptible

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Because faith can come out of love too

tame crag
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the only true way one can enjoy faith is to have your own idea and opinion without following stuff too strictly, but that's a whole other affair and people aren't looking at religion for freedom of thought, but just spiritual shelter lol

limber geyser
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I recommend listening to the companion podcast and I cannot stress that Mazin was the right writer to adapt this game

night sandal
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yess i love it so much, especially the dialogues

digital mauve
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bella ramsey is insane holy shit

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They're amazing

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there's a TikTok of Ellie being rooted on for THAT scene of ultimate vengance this week and I LOVE it!!

digital mauve
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Episode 8 was so great

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Was happy they didnā€™t deviate too much from the original game here

acoustic stream
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David was f'ing scary

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scarier than The Bloater one from a couple episodes back, tbh

winged gorge
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WAIT FR

sick pawn
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Yessir

winged gorge
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Damn

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DAT LOOK GOOD

tight moat
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Yk thats the one moment I thought the show kind of missteps, like they've treated the whole situation with nuance but then that goes out the window

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Like ||the catholic preacher is a pedofile|| cause of course he is

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There were hints before that paint the picture, they didnt have to spell it all out

tame crag
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well in the bag the whole time you get the feeling he's a scumbag like overall

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you think of a bad thing? he is

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in the series they treated him too lightly

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exactly like you said

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it's all too nuanced and then BOOOOM

tame crag
tight moat
tame crag
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mmhhh, i guess... i personally loved the vibes the guy gave out, 'cause i was actually on the edge thinking "what's the danger here, what are we going to lose to get rid of this shit"

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i understand the series goes along its own way of telling stuff, i just find it not-very-fitting of the character, but the way he goes crazy at the end is like the only part i've found fitting of him

tight moat
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Idk i sort of see the game and show versions of each character as separate entities

oblique ferry
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Watched episode 7 and that was a really good standalone Ellie episode

slow nova
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The thing that was lacking from the latest episode, was somehow Ellie starting to trust David, before she realises the full extent of the kind of psycho he is. In the game they did this by having them work together to face Hoarders and one Bloater if my memory serves me right. It's all about time management, they maybe didn't have enough time to feature such a segment, and next week they have 47 minutes to cover the entire finale, the way to the finale, and apparently a flashback story, how all that fits in 47 minutes is beyond me. It's a finale they could've easily done 70 mins.

zenith lichen
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Yeah that runtime kinda worries me. They've done a pretty good job so far shortening the game but there's quite a bit to fit into a 47 minute finale. Really hope it's not a cliffhanger ending lol

potent nacelle
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judging episodes in a vacuum, the people saying episode 7 is boring and filler truly have not a fucking clue what storytelling even is

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that being said, 47 minutes for the finale worries me to no end

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to have 8 good to great episodes only for the last one to not land is going to be a hard pill to swallow

oblique ferry
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No clue why when they are developmental to the main characters

digital mauve
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or something I dunno

oblique ferry
sterile coral
# digital mauve the terrible drunk critic audience are at it again lmao

https://twitter.com/HelloGreedo/status/1632943909289484289?cxt=HHwWgoCzta71sKktAAAA

HelloGreedo (@HelloGreedo)

i hope young people don't watch youtube videos where grownups constantly bitch and moan about inconsequential entertainment shit and think that's cool or a regular way to act or whatever because everyone other than the perpetually-online sees it as embarrassing loser bullshit

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digital mauve
digital mauve
potent nacelle
zenith lichen
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I make sure I watch The Quartering to ensure my opinion matches with his before talking about anything šŸ™

potent nacelle
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the who now

digital mauve
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oh god fuck The Quartering

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not even gonna get into that

zenith lichen
digital mauve
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Heā€™s just as worse as other misleading destructive channels

oblique ferry
oblique ferry
digital mauve
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Lol

oblique ferry
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Humanity didnt need to see your shit ass editing skills

digital mauve
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He is equivalent but arguably just way dumber than Critical Drinker or CinemaSins

oblique ferry
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Oh cinemasins
Remember when that channel was actually funny

digital mauve
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The dude try to claimed wokeness agenda on some lady reviewing and giving a game a middling review

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her points were actually trying getting across but he just dismisses this as some sort of gamer gate or something

potent nacelle
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I do know what they're up to, cause they made a video recently on angry joe

oblique ferry
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Honest Trailers are also going down the same path it seems

potent nacelle
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it's kind of absurd, that people are now saying he's got something under the sheets he's trying to cover up

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because he complained that people complained april o'neil wasn't white anymore on the new trailer

digital mauve
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bruh

potent nacelle
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that's what you got nowadays, not being racist? OH YOU DEFINITELY JUST TRYING TO TAKE ATTENTION OFF YOUR OWN DIRT!

digital mauve
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So dumb

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what even is humanity anymore lol

potent nacelle
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humanity on internet's echo chamber

digital mauve
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I swear dudes like Quartering need to hop off

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be better off without em

potent nacelle
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it's gotten to a point where good ole Schwarzenegger had to put out a video on his twitter today

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well actually yesterday

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recommend watching to refresh your hope in humanity

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not time to reject it yet

oblique ferry
potent nacelle
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Check out his twitter

sterile coral
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Fucking based

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tame crag
tame crag
dapper plank
potent nacelle
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Not for the mainstream I'm guessing

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Because you bet there's a wave of the anti-woke crowd complaining

dapper plank
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Understandable though, how many times they gunna change stuff and it not work

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These trailers get like 1m dislikes and maybe a couple hundred thousand likes lol

potent nacelle
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There's nothing understandable about hating on a movie because "the black character isn't thin, pretty or white"

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Like they should all be amirite!

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It's the complaining on Bella Ramsey's cast all over again

dapper plank
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itā€™s not as simple as that

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I know you want to think it is

potent nacelle
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At what point we got, people complain actors aren't pretty enough for them

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It is pretty simple

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I know you want to think it isn't

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The character was originally a person of color

zenith lichen
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I think I saw she was black in the very first comic? Maybe first few

dapper plank
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Itā€™s entertainment, people have every right to complain and be picky if they want to

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I like the saying ā€œif it ainā€™t broke donā€™t fix itā€

potent nacelle
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I would put these tweets in the "very simple" category any day of the week

dapper plank
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How is it not woke

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You canā€™t see the pattern?

potent nacelle
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I don't think Angry Joe is even a good person, I'm not necessarily a good one and I'm sure as hell of that. We are no paragons, but there's definitely something wrong when we are the people saying "hey guys, it's okay to have a black character in your escapist media."

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Calling diversity in media a woke pattern is truly pathetic

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"don't you see all these straight couples everywhere!!"

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"virtue signaling!!!"

dapper plank
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forced diversity doesnā€™t work

zenith lichen
dapper plank
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The numbers donā€™t lie

potent nacelle
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Making a character of color that was changed into a redhead, back into a person of color is no forced diversity

dapper plank
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To me it just shows the continued lack of creativity of hollywood, remaking everything and the only thing they change is the race or sexual preference of the character, thatā€™s not character development

potent nacelle
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Yeah, we should just remake everything instead.

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It's crazy how people would rather have nothing, than having a little.

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Tell me, how does this "forced wokeness" hurts the storytelling in a movie?

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Is it now instantly poorly written?

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Are the rules of drama suddenly not being followed because now she's black?

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What is it, that you're losing

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Because her skin color is now serving as representation for the unrepresented

dapper plank
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Sacrificing character development to make sure the female is always strong, independent and donā€™t need men

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Not compelling storytelling

potent nacelle
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And how is that anything alike the stuff we saw in the properties being attacked right now?

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I sure as hell ain't seeing this kind of stuff in The Last of Us

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And there was nothing in the ninja turtles trailer to indicate that

dapper plank
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Generally people like to see a character with flaws so we can relate.

potent nacelle
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So really, the problem is clearly another.

dapper plank
potent nacelle
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what is absurd about it?

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are you telling me, black, asians, latinos used to receive the same representation on entertainment as white people?

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oh I don't think so

digital mauve
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nothing

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I swear just automatically calling this a forced diversity is just coming off as being an asshack

potent nacelle
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identify the satire, find the show that was made by black people

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everybody hates chris was fucking funny on the casting alone

digital mauve
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Yes

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People like us needs this

potent nacelle
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''let's cast a black character, but he won't be protagonist, he will never get the girl, and he won't have the same screentime.''

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well well well

digital mauve
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and honestly race swapping I do kinda find lazy but honestly

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April being black worked for me

potent nacelle
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if Greg just isn't the funniest satire from just looking at the poster

digital mauve
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She feels like the fun black big sister

digital mauve
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Iā€™m just tired of hearing this

potent nacelle
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you're talking to Mr. ''I don't accept they as a singular pronoun''

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yeah, let's talk about patterns

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I'm seeing one right now

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why is that, that the people who bring up the same argument as this, defend ''pickiness'' on diversity in media

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hmmm

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interesting

digital mauve
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honestly get the hell out of my sights the second you bring up ā€œforced diversityā€

digital mauve
potent nacelle
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patterns are so fun you guys

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the dots just connect themselves

digital mauve
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Lol

potent nacelle
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the dot connect themself* sorry

oblique ferry
digital mauve
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like thereā€™s a difference between being picky

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vs being an absolute crybaby about attempted representation through race swap

oblique ferry
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Anyways almost caught up with TLOU

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Need to watch ep8

potent nacelle
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episode 8 banger

oblique ferry
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Apparently this one has a lot of violence

digital mauve
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I will watch the first episode soon

oblique ferry
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Bruh lol

digital mauve
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Yeah lol

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Iā€™m living under rock

oblique ferry
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Well enjoy

digital mauve
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I promise I will watch it before this chat possibly closes

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I need the one taste lmao

oblique ferry
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Well last episode is gonna air on March 12

digital mauve
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Got it

oblique ferry
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So you got like 4 days till now lol

digital mauve
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Lmao

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Plenty of time

tame crag
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others: well that's a good move, bravo, bravo
me: WHYYY, WHYYYYY, HE'S A PEDOPHILE, HE PROBABLY USES WOKE AS INSULT

potent nacelle
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it's pretty engaging, found myself having to pause an episode to do something else and I just kept watching it

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''just more 5 minutes''

digital mauve
oblique ferry
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So far the show has been pretty great, just bit of a pacing issue here and there but nothing TOO major

tame crag
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i mean, he's literally the logical fault that a "not infected" human is even worse than an infected in being inhuman

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why humanize such a monster šŸ˜„

oblique ferry
digital mauve
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No wonder the modern media sucks falls so badly

tame crag
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why you say modern media sucks? and what do you mean with "modern media"

oblique ferry
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Anyone who says audiences are not at fault are extremely ignorant

tame crag
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'cause television is modern...

tame crag
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so it's indeed their fault

digital mauve
tame crag
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"contemporary" then šŸ¤“

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modern means from the 60s onward lol

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although if i had to talk if "modern"/"contemporary" media are bad or not, i find the concept of catering to various audiences a funny challenge in screenwriting, but i always enjoyed myself some challenge in writing stuff

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it's just that most of the times the "catering to audience" is only really "trying to make more people watch and buy this" than "make this audience feel included"

digital mauve
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Lol

potent nacelle
oblique ferry
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I have a sudden urge to rewatch Yojimbo before watching ep8
Sorry TLOU but wait please thanks

tame crag
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bruh that's like saying "maybe i need to get on this Ferrari 250 GTO before trying this new Prius"

potent nacelle
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memes have corrupted my mind, now Yojimbo sounds like when people meme Kojima by pronouncing his name wrong

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there goes bojimbo make a 5 hour cutscene instead of just filming a movie

oblique ferry
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lmao

tame crag
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i still think of ffX...

tame crag
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it's like the only irk i have with the series so far, aside tess unepic death

oblique ferry
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Why do characters need to have epic death scenes

tame crag
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well not EVERY character

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just tess, she goes off with an epic boom in the game

oblique ferry
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Nah just sayinf in general

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A lot of people get miffed that their favourite didnt go out woth a boom

tame crag
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well i'm speaking strictly of tlou, i'm all for showing that those characters you think are super good, immortal and what not, meet an untimely death and are, after all, fragile humans

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but in tlou tess is barely human at some point lol

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joel sulks on her for so long and you still think "she did the only thing to ensure you both survived"

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in the series it's more like "well she had no choice after all"

oblique ferry
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Side not but really liked those cold opens the first two eps had detailing the origins of the infection

potent nacelle
tame crag
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exactly

potent nacelle
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I can see why that will be criticized, but I understand the approach

tame crag
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(and i'm in that fanclub of "this was really not necessary")

tame crag
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they could infodump some stuff, sometimes, just for the sake of it

oblique ferry
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They cpuld have shown more yes

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Hate writing on discord mobile, so many typos

tame crag
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also i was super interested how they treated the start of the infection in other nations

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looking at india was a very interesting POV

oblique ferry
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Wait wut? That was Indonesia

tame crag
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oh, indonesia, sorry lol

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i'm particularly curious thinking what can happen on islands

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like smaller islands, but also bigger ones like japan that can close borders altogether

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and become like a "bubble" without infected

night sandal
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limber geyser
torn dirge
proper bloom
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he's cargo

winged gorge
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Drinking can have some good takes

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And some bad

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Quartering doesnā€™t even do nerd news anymore

exotic wadi
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drinker is an actual reviewer that has his share of good and bad opinions mixed with satire but all are his own and he reviews fairly

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quatering is just a racist homophobic sexist and basically every other bigot u can be

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people who lump drinker with people like quatering are idiots who have never actually watched one of his reviews

winged gorge
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Well

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This Epsiode got dark

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:/

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This show does not fuck around

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Neither does the game

digital mauve
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for real this time lmao

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I thought you WERE watching

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Izzy... you disappoint me

digital mauve
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donā€™t rush me lmao

dense coral
digital mauve
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I have completed this yesterday

dense coral
digital mauve
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I love it

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oh that musical one would be right up Izzy's alley

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yeah

digital mauve
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Yes

near otter
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In the second game it honestly felt like the infected took a backseat in the very gritty human drama lol

digital mauve
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but I digress

near otter
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Also they made David so much creepier in this episode, euch

tight moat
tame crag
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like, he was very human-like, basically your run-on-the-mill pedo

near otter
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The lines he said, talking about how he liked when "they" fight as he was assaulting Ellie

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Those lines weren't in the game

tame crag
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yeah those were there to underline (supposedly?) the fact that he's been doing this stuff for quite some time

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and enjoying it, as opposed to all the farce he put up until that moment

near otter
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yeah and that's what made it creepier to me, like in the game he's a pedophile, and it's gross, but they didn't really outwardly show it save for his incredibly vague lines and slight showing of attraction to Ellie, in this episode, it was much more obvious

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he said it blatantly

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I physically cringed

tame crag
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well it felt veeery creepy in the game exactly for that reason to me

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like he was a very covert pedo and you can only GUESS what could happen if things went differently

near otter
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I guess maybe it just hit harder seeing him say it and the way he said it cause I've encountered men like David before

tame crag
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also he's all around someone you clearly don't trust as a gamer, and as a watcher, much like he doesn't convince ellie into being a good guy

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here instead it's almost like he is doing something good, albeit being a horrible person

near otter
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when i first played the game all those years ago I didn't trust David from the get go

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instant red flags the moment I saw him

tame crag
near otter
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they made it realistic alright

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so many of them act like he does

tame crag
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keeps you on the edge all the time

near otter
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I initially thought he was a serial killer

tame crag
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well you can say he KINDA is, except everyone is a serial killer in that world lol

near otter
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And i mean, he kinda is, I mean, he's also a cannibal, but I thought he was just a cannibal

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I didn't catch onto him being a pedo til near the end

tame crag
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mmmhh really? i think the game presented him immediately interested in ellie for weird stuff

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it's the series that muddled it a bit imho

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like he seems genuinely interested in ellie for other reasons

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(which is very creepy yes)

near otter
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I don't know, I was watching my friend play the remake a few weeks ago and it was way more subtle

tame crag
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then i guess it's like this, i'm just one of those peeps that ruin everything 'cause they've been too much in storytelling to not pick up hints right away lol

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infact i stay shut everytime i watch something with someone 'cause it's really hard for me to miss a prediction lol

near otter
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years of tramua from being a minor on discord up until like....2021 has me on high alert

tame crag
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"mh, this girl dies"
"she's the fucking protagonist of this"
"i think she dies eventually"

she dies
awkward silence

near otter
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this app is like catnip for predators, it's no joke

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shits revolting

tame crag
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meh, i'm 30, i can tell you our web chats were much more dangerous lol

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the moment you accepted an unknown request on MSN you were ready for some nauseating shit

near otter
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I figured, there's a whole TV show about em

sick pawn
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Predator Olympics isn't a competition worth playing.

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Discord and MSN were both predator stomping grounds.

tame crag
near otter
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The guy who played David was incredible, even though I knew what was gonna happen I did not for a second buy a WORD of what he was saying

potent nacelle
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tbh I've watched entire movies knowing the ''big twist'', and I think awhile back the youtuber eyepatch wolf made an entire video of research on the effects of ''spoilers'' and he found out with that knowing what will happen truly does not affect one's experience with the material

tame crag
potent nacelle
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if it's well made, then it's well made and the emotion lands all the same

sick pawn
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based hgh

near otter
tame crag
potent nacelle
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you don't get a big ''oooh didn't expect'' feeling, but that is a very passing moment and it quickly gets overcome with other stronger feelings

tame crag
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like the sixth sense is totally ruined if you know

near otter
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as I've grown older I've gotten better at guessing what's gonna happen in movies and it has ruined moviegoing for me

tame crag
near otter
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so when a movie really surprises me I get REALLY happy

tame crag
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^ this

near otter
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Or a show

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cough Poker Face

tame crag
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i was so excited with TLOU series twists

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i was like "MAN THIS WASN'T IN THE GAME, OOOOHH"

potent nacelle
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interesting, because for me Poker Face isn't about twists but about tension

near otter
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I genuinely didn't see most of the twists in Poker Face coming

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less about the murders and more about the plot itself

potent nacelle
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in the first arc I think Rian Johnson even uses the fact the audience knows what's up to build tension

near otter
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you see I think creative people suffer from a great malady

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It's called artist brain

potent nacelle
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it's the good ole hitchcock ''difference between mystery and suspense''

near otter
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I'm an animator, any time I watch an animated film all i can think about is "how did they animate that, omg, is that possible in X software, look at those smear frames, etc."

tame crag
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i think that's a problem that almost everyone with too much "lateral thinking" has tbh, it's just that being creative often develops that way of thinking "lateral" that eventually becomes a burden in enjoying stuff lol

tame crag
near otter
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yeah i couldn't fully enjoy Encanto without pointing out how well crafted the cinematography is

tame crag
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like some shots are so explicitly done for this purpose

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and so i meta-explain to me that this guy is going to die, that one is a filler

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it's a mess really lol

potent nacelle
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I can usually turn off that part of my brain, if I'm not enjoying something from the get go I start to pay attention to what is making me feel that way, but when the experience is smooth I just stop thinking and get immersed

tame crag
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"oh look they adjusted lights over whites to make her look younger"

potent nacelle
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I pay a lot of attention to dialogue and just words in general, paying attention to the flow of the conversation

near otter
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I'm also a VFX artist so if I spot some goofs I point em out

potent nacelle
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but say in episode 8

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when david is talking

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I just stopped thinking about that

near otter
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Like in Everything Everywhere All At Once

tame crag
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yeah but let's take for example episode 3 of TLOU

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the story and everything is engaging

potent nacelle
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and started to listen to him like I would listen to any normal person speaking

tame crag
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but the direction made me go all moist

near otter
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Where if you look closely at the rocks you can see the masks for the rods they used to move them

tame crag
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it was such SO pinpointed beauty

near otter
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Or in The Last of Us

tame crag
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when frank is painting, the frame is so perfect

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you see frank painting stuff and bill on the background, just going by

near otter
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Where a bunch of crew members can be seen in the bottom left corner of a shot lol

tame crag
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it's SO WELL DONE

tame crag
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i instantly looked and said "umm...?"

near otter
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Me and my friends did not spot it until we paused it

tame crag
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i saw a patch of stuff moving

near otter
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And we paused it cause we wanted to grab some food and we noticed it

tame crag
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and when the episode ended without anything happening over there i went back to check what it was lol

near otter
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My brain is so locked into VFX frame I can spot even the smallest goofs and gaffs

tame crag
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yeah, it must be hard, i hate it when i notice props on actors or on the scene appearing/disappearing through scenes...

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i totally hate it

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it breaks every immersion i can have lol

near otter
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If i took my time to really look at movies like Everything Everywhere I'm sure I'd spot a ton of errors lol, but I don't blame them there were like 8 vfx artists on it lol

tame crag
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i think i enjoyed POALOF so much because even if at some point my mind roamed into looking at the technical stuff

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i was totally enamoured by the technical stuff as well

near otter
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I cannot get over the rocks slightly cutting off because the mask job wasn't fully ironed out lololol

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TV is incredible though, it's crazy how they can take shots from several different locations and make it seem like it all takes place in the same location

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Cobra Kai is mostly filmed here in Atlanta lol and it takes place in the Valley in California, and they only do shoots there for like, exteriors, and soundstages

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In fact the original Cobra Kai dojo (not in the old film in the show) is here in Atlanta, GA, it's a strip mall around the corner, the interior is filmed in a soundstage

potent nacelle
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at the end of the day it's impossible to craft the perfect immersive movie, like how literally any movie will have an over the shoulder shot that doesn't connect together in the coverage, you will hear the dialogue from 1 take but the over the shoulder is clearly not syncing up to it. The actor usually doesn't move as he speaks, but no filmmaker cares about that because the focal point is simply on the actor that is in focus and we don't usually look at the rest of the frame

near otter
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I'm thinking of ending things is a pretty immersive movie

potent nacelle
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you can do pretty immersive, just not immaculate, so I think it's self defeating to beat your head against the wall because of that sorta insider information. At this point these ''errors'' are part of the craft

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even Fincher has that, it's truly unavoidable

tame crag
potent nacelle
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it's part of how it's made, and maybe with the rise of A.I bullshit we will even start to appreciate more human errors in art

tame crag
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i think it's just very hard to not do mistakes

tame crag
oblique ferry
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The experience was what mattered

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Though of course a lot of people get miffed when spoiled which is understadable actually

tame crag
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i'm all in for being a bit bummed, but if i'm watching a thing that i already know, i just enjoy the ride

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i mean, i know TLOU quiet well and still stuff is amazing me enough

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well more than enough, but i for one welcome the changes they've made to the series

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episode 3 had no reason of being this good, i hope it really gets some award because last time i felt so broken after watching an episode of something was after San Junipero

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of black mirror

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2.x06 if i'm not mistaken, and it was a technical marvel, aside from being such a good fucking story

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oh, and episode 6 i think of squid game, but there i felt they were pulling all the possible strings to make me feel bad

fathom marsh
fathom marsh
digital mauve
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I never said anything about him just doing it for views but okay

Not even cause I disagree or not (tho I do) but what how he does it is honestly effective distorting of modern media criticism

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Iā€™m just gonna leave it at this

oblique ferry
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Wow TLOU ep8 was messed up lol

digital mauve
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Oh shit

acoustic stream
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but good though!

digital mauve
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šŸ‘€

oblique ferry
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Cant believe there is just one ep left now

digital mauve
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I will watch it today

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promise this lol

oblique ferry
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Sure

digital mauve
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Iā€™m just busy at the moment

acoustic stream
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promises promisess

digital mauve
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I swear on my balls

acoustic stream
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TMI

digital mauve
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Iā€™m being genuine this time lmao

acoustic stream
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you could have just sworn on Sweeney Todd OBC recording

digital mauve
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pfft

oblique ferry
digital mauve
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I swear on the OBC Recording of Sweeney Todd

digital mauve
acoustic stream
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btw Sweeney Todd revival is getting amazing reviews!

oblique ferry
digital mauve
oblique ferry
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Anyways good episode

tame crag
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including me, i'm 100% sure it will be disappointing

acoustic stream
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it got renewed right?!

oblique ferry
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Apparently, next episode finishes the first game story

digital mauve
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I must go though

acoustic stream
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leave us then, fine!

digital mauve
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Iā€™m getting very busy today

oblique ferry
tame crag
digital mauve
tame crag
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a lot

acoustic stream
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cake is a lie, bro

digital mauve
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Not when I say so lmao

oblique ferry
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Well, lets see how it goes

tame crag
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while i beared with riley having her story all twisted and cut for the sake of keeping it one episode only

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i'm not sure it will be good enough for the ending lol

oblique ferry
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Bella Ramsey did such a great job this episode though

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Ep 6 was Pedro's strongest showcase
Ep8 being hers
Kudos to them

tame crag
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yeah... although in the scene in the cell, when david is touching her hand and all, she looks veeeery fake in that "oh..."

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it was literally a mocking "oh..." and if i were david i would have pulled that hand so fast 'cause it was obvious something was going to hurt very soon

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but he's a pedo, it's amazing enough he survived so long

oblique ferry
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Man, David's actor looked so familiar then searching Google showed that he was in El Camino lol

tame crag
#

he's always doing the baddie

oblique ferry
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Well, he kinda was a weasel in the El Camino movie but not like the main bad guy

tame crag
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looks at first cow a baddie, yes

fathom marsh
digital mauve
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Ah

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Gotcha

winged gorge
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WAIT

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Have you played the game?

digital mauve
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Lol

digital mauve
winged gorge
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......

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finish

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the

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GAAAAAMMMMMEEE

digital mauve
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too late

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already am watching this today now

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lol

fathom marsh
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I skimmed a play through of the game like literally a day before the show got announced šŸ’€

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So I know all the spoilers

fathom marsh
digital mauve
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No warning needed

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have to go through these anyway so lol

digital mauve
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30 mins in and it already broke me

winged gorge
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GET READY

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YOU AINT BROKEN YET

tame crag
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First episode is literally one of the most intense stuff I've watched since quite a lot lol

slow nova
digital mauve
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Yo @oblique ferry

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my guy

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I watched it

oblique ferry
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Lmao finally

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You enjoy?

digital mauve
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Yes

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It broke me

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and I knew what was coming in the beginning

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it still broke me

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šŸ„²

oblique ferry
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Lol

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Yep

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Episode 1 really set things in motion so well

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That first scene is chilling

digital mauve
#

Yessssss

potent nacelle
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the plane scene got my jaw on the floor

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this season had these moments sprinkled throughout where they change the smallest of things to surprise the veteran audience

digital mauve
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so sad that theres only one episode left

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and a little worried about the runtime

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but also like, theyve done an amazing job so far so i have faith

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and i didnt see anyone in the initial reviews complain about the ending so im sure its fine

uncut linden
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I don't want it to end šŸ˜­

digital mauve
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hey at least it was already renewed for season 2!

uncut linden
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Yeah.

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Won't be sad at all

digital mauve
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gonna delete that just in case

uncut linden
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Haha. Yeah no game spoilers allowed I think just show.

digital mauve
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i am excited for season 2 though, episode 8 convinced me of that

exotic wadi
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unless the change the story from that of TLOU PT II

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if its the same then im not wasting my time on that crap

slow nova
acoustic stream
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if Bella and Pedro fight Clickers or whatever? I'm watching

potent nacelle
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Except she will be recast because Ellie adult

dense coral
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riiight

supple plinth
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Bella is an adult so i think she can play someone her age lol

potent nacelle
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there is a reason she was cast as kid Ellie

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she's got a baby face, even if she's 19 or whatever

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it won't work in a timeskip

dense coral
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And adult Ellie can have baby face

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We might get shorter time jump

potent nacelle
#

for a character as active as Ellie is, having an actor that looks like a child is not a positive for the story they want to tell in TLOU2

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isn't there a sex scene with Ellie and her gf?

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this is a bad idea

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who will even be cast as Abbie then, because if Ellie looks as young as she does in part 2 then Abbie will have to stand in equal ground, it's part of the story that they are

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and then more problems, that story is too dark and too mature to have infantilized versions of the characters

exotic wadi
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if you know you know

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one of the many many reasons part 2 is fucking awful

tame crag
#

can't wait for your disappointment

tame crag
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it will be a (weak) TWD redux

fathom marsh
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Plus, they might change a few of the most hated parts

tame crag
slow nova
zenith aspen
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How does a computer get drunk?

sonic badge
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the point of the last of us is that its mainly focused on its characters and their relations. Thats literally the entire reason it stood out amongst a tsunami of other zombie related projects

tame crag
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yes and i think that's what sets tlou I apart

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but they pulled too much in part 2 imho, everyone has their own opinion, it's just that i don't think everyone who hates on part 2 is for "ideological" reasons (read: being a trash being)

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the fact i'd still replay tlou 2 instead of 1 says much also about the gameplay

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just a better game, but imho a worse story

slow nova
sterile coral
calm swift
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Actualy, I am surprised, that ep 9 is the final, I thought it would be at least 2 episodes.

potent nacelle
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everyone's a little on the edge with that information

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there's even a chance the ending will be a cliffhanger and won't actually end the game

sick pawn
tame crag
slow nova
fathom marsh
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Whyyyyyy

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Only 47 minutes of last of us left

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Then I have to wait, like, at least a year for season two

north yoke
zenith lichen
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Leaked spoilers for the season finale!1!! ||Final line from Joel is "uhh so THAT happened" while he tugs at the neck of his shirt||

north yoke
proper bloom
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Can't believe it's the last episode

muted sable
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The last of eps

zenith lichen
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30 years and still nobody has been able to top Super Mario Bros adaptation

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But they tried at least

fathom marsh
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Godamn it Oscars

zenith lichen
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I do wish we got to see a little more of the special infected. The makeup work on the clickers was awesome but we only saw them once(?)

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Very good last episode tho imo

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Although it really didn't hit as well as the game I feel like

supple plinth
#

nobody i was watching with knew the signifigance of the doctor he killed

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they thought it would all be ok

zenith lichen
supple plinth
#

huh

potent nacelle
supple plinth
#

that's true

proper bloom
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Joel was right

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She would have gone looking for her

peak sorrel
dire island
#

Fantastic season 1 finale .. loved it

dire island
fathom marsh
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People are gonna hate this episode, but I loved it

potent nacelle
exotic wadi
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the "i'll follow you anywhere" hurts even more knowing how they butchered joel and the story in tlou pt 2

exotic wadi
dense coral
long frigate
#

certified "what the fuck" ending
my favourite episode

dense coral
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Joel went full John Rambo lol

potent nacelle
dense coral
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They will probably cut down on pew pew stab stab like in S1

oblique ferry
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Oh right the last ep released

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Forgot about this coz of the Oscars

dense coral
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oh shit the ||giraffe|| was real

fathom marsh
#

Iā€™m curious how this episode holds up to those who played the game?

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Like, is it a ā€œthe game did it betterā€ type moment?

exotic wadi
#

this episode is just as good as the game but the show as a whole is definitely worse than the game

digital mauve
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I will continue to episode 2 today

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episode 1 frigging fucks

muted sable
#

It took them the entire length of season 1 but the show finally referenced the gameā€™s iconic ladder sequences

digital mauve
#

cool

dire island
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I'm gonna miss this awesome show.. having watched all of season 1 , its definitely gonna be on my top 5 shows this year.. right now it's No. 1 with Poker face being second

potent mauve
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I'm glad y'all loved the show so much!

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I think the ending was a little rushed maybe, but the show was fantastic imo

tame crag
torn dirge
tame crag
#

i think they did a good job on the ending episode given how much stuff they had to fit in

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but i dont understand the need for the rush

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budget?

tame crag
#

i still think killing the fireflies leader was a very bad move plot wise, buuut... it's ok, i wasn't rooting for humans anyway

night sandal
#

ā€œit wasnā€™t time that did itā€ pepeCry

oblique ferry
exotic wadi
slow nova
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Just finished it! Was surprised they stuck really close to the game for this one. My only gripe is they should have built ||Joel's badassery slightly more over the course for the season for it to be believable that he killed 20 people, especially in corridor shootouts. I wish they took a little bit more liberty on the ending like they did with other moments of the season but oh well.||

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Also was not really surprised they omitted ||any kind of evidence or throaway dialogue of perhaps the Fireflies being wrong or incompetent, in the game there were audio devices that you could find that pointed to that possibility, but anyhow.|| [First game spoilers]

zenith socket
#

So I haven't played Last of Us Part 2 yet (I am about to) so I'm not 100% sure what the story is going to be like with its approach. From my understanding though, Last of Us Part 2 made the rather curious choice to present the narrative in a non-linear fashion, with four different timelines between two perspectives. While this approach wasn't outright hated (it was the actual story decisions that caused divisiveness), I can't help but feel the approach wouldn't translate that well to TV even if you spend multiple seasons on it (which they plan to do).

It's not like non-linear TV hasn't been done before (and hasn't been successful in some cases) but to jump to a non-linear story after a relatively linear one would be jarring for fans of the show that haven't played the games. Neil Druckman and Craig Strazin will have to work overtime to carefully organize their plot points to make sure the story flows a lot better than the game (from what I've heard).

slow nova
# zenith socket So I haven't played Last of Us Part 2 yet (I am about to) so I'm not 100% sure w...

Well for starters they're going to split it into two seasons so they got plenty of room to stretch. As for your other point I don't think it'll be much of an issue for the non-linear thing, as long as you make it clear that we go back in time or forward or whatever so viewers are not lost, they can navigate the ship through these waters no problem. The real problem for Season 2 is how do you present motives for actions and how you are careful with balance between the many main and side characters of Part II.

digital mauve
#

first episode broke me already Hedge

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done broke me šŸ˜­

zenith socket
# slow nova Well for starters they're going to split it into two seasons so they got plenty ...

In my opinion, non-linear narratives work better with books or TV, where you have the time to actually spread out and properly balance when things are presented and fed to the audience to establish motives and goals. With games, its harder to balance that in a whole package considering how varied different playtimes are...which is why its more of a common practice to sperate different timelines or perspectives into seperate playthroughs, allowing for players to focus on one playthrough and one side of the narrative before switching to a different narrative.

sick pawn
# slow nova Well for starters they're going to split it into two seasons so they got plenty ...

Is it confirmed that they are splitting it up into two seasons?

Edit: https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-last-of-us-part-2-season-two-more-1235552204/
Neat article!

Variety
Jordan Moreau
ā€˜The Last of Usā€™ Will Adapt ā€˜Part IIā€™ Video Game Into ā€˜More Than On...

SPOILER ALERT:Ā This contains spoilers from the Season 1 finale of ā€œThe Last of Us,ā€ now streaming on HBO Max. ā€œThe Last of Usā€ was officially renewed for a Season 2 by HBO in Januaā€¦

zenith socket
sick pawn
#

I know, birdie. I just shared the article.

near otter
#

bro the giraffe was REAL???

slow nova
slow nova
tame crag
#

how can it look CG... ahah

potent nacelle
#

there might be a hybrid process going on

dense coral
#

idk, maybe it was too dark? The digital scene they've made was very bight, but the digital set had more flat lightning

potent nacelle
#

cgi laid on top of the real footage because the foliage they feed the giraffe is pretty damn real

dense coral
#

So it's probably a lot of different shots combined and when one can't exactly pinpoint where the shenanigans happen, the default is "the giraffe is fake"

whole summit
#

Replayed The Last Of Us 2 and it's definitely better than Part 1, people shit on it because they're band wagon hoppers, unemotionally intelligent or bigotted

potent nacelle
#

or because that story has been told ad nauseam in pretty much every single medium, yet the game treats it like it's a novelty and something pretty smart

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it thinks it's trying to teach something to the grownups that played the first, but the way it does it is more suited for middle schoolers.

whole summit
whole summit
potent nacelle
#

revenge bad! cycle of violence! omg so innovative!

#

it's almost like people wrote about it 500 years ago, and they did it better.

#

y'all, if you enjoyed TLOU2 I've got something that's definitely going to scratch that same itch, it's called 'Hamlet'

#

give it a read!

whole summit
#

If m keoard wasnt roken I would ave so muc more to sa

#

ut it is INCREDIBLE ow muc ou are missing te point of TLOU2

#

Did ou like episode 3 of TLOU?

potent nacelle
#

the good ole missing the point

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it's not poorly told, you just don't get it

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you poor little thing

whole summit
#

Villains and eroes, trauma and ow to deal wit it, religious persecution, gender-ased persecution, society development in a world of no rules, familial relationsip importance, parent-cild relations and so muc more

#

et ou decide to reduce it to REVENGE BAD lmao

#

Tell me you have 0 media literacy without telling me

#

Go cry tat ||Joel is dead|| somewhere else

sterile coral
whole summit
#

roken keoard :(

sterile coral
#

Oh no :((

#

Hope it gets fixed soon

potent nacelle
whole summit
#

At a loss for words so decides to attack me lmao

sterile coral
#

It was a little bit fun at first but now it is very annoying

whole summit
#

People lash out wen teir intelligence is treatened

#

Sorr tat didnt elp

sterile coral
#

It did, thanks

potent nacelle
#

no, thanks

#

dude barges in questioning the emotional intelligence of anyone who disagrees with his opinion

#

that for me is no attitude deserving of any respect

#

and poking fun without bringing out real insults, is a big leap from ''unnecessarily hostile''

sterile coral
potent nacelle
#

and?

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you think me commenting ''you just don't get it! it's too much for your brain, you poor little thing'' is me taking his argument seriously?

#

perhaps you're missing the point

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you thinking that those comments are ''unnecessary hostility'' is you taking my own comments, too seriously

restive turret
#

One of the biggest problems of this show is its poor use of action and horror setpieces (or lack thereof). Guessing it was due to budget constraints. This is an HBO show, but itā€™s still a show. They donā€™t have big-budget movie money. Best example was the finaleā€™s hospital shootout. They breezed through that shit like a speedrunner.

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Hopefully HBO ramps up the budget for Part 2, since that game dials up the violent action and setpieces.

whole summit
#

I didn't call ou unemotionall intelligent, ou're just deciding I did to feel insecure aout someting

#

I said all of tat ecause te onl criticisms I've ever eard aout TLOU2 were for tem eing "woke", reducing te game to te "cycle of violence" and ||killing Joel|| none of wic are real criticisms wic ou just echoed

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I do not care for earning your respect, nor does anone else so stop acting like your respect is someting to e admired lol ecause we are all equal

potent nacelle
#

well I'm not the one demanding others to be nice to me

#

I'm reacting to others telling me that

whole summit
#

Were is tis coming from?

potent nacelle
whole summit
#

You can e an assole if you want, onl ou ave te choice to e or not to e one

potent nacelle
#

rich coming from you

whole summit
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Not calling ou one

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Ok lol

tame crag
dire island
proper bloom
#

Would you guys have finished off whatā€™s her name

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The leader of the fireflies

tame crag
#

marlene

proper bloom
#

Joel was rightā€¦.

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she would have came back

proper bloom
#

Granted she was hurt pretty bad

tame crag
#

aaaaand... as much as joel was probably right, probs no, fireflies leader and all that, plus the doctor was dead

#

so a new way of finding the cure and stuff would be gone anyway and a new one would need to spring up

proper bloom
#

Joel was in rage mode ngl

tame crag
#

so, basically, years of waiting... i toootally understand joel POV, but killing the only resistance left to fedra isn't the brightest idea

proper bloom
#

See the thing is I saw Marlene had too much willpower and would have killed Joel back as we saw earlier in the episode

dire island
proper bloom
#

Also, was Ellie going to die in surgery?

#

I didnā€™t catch that part

tame crag
#

100% sure that she would, mostly 'cause he literally spawncamped them into the hospital after a travel of days

proper bloom
#

What were they going to do with her brain

dire island
tame crag
proper bloom
tame crag
proper bloom
#

Another reason why I would have done what Joel did

tame crag
#

they THINK there is a neurotransmiter in the brain of ellie

dire island
#

Seriously.. bringing a scalpel to a gunfight . That Doctor was stupid

tame crag
#

that confuses the fungus into thinking ellie is made of the same stuff

proper bloom
#

If thereā€™s an actual reason for immunity

tame crag
#

so basically they're killing her without being 100% sure there is something like that inside

proper bloom
#

Yeah theyā€™re pretty desperate at that point

dire island
#

But again that's just a theory though from their part.. they rushed to get Ellie into surgery when they could have done other tests first

tame crag
#

yeah they failed miserably at the last point, like

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you succeeded in organizing a hospital and stuff and such to perform operations

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might aswell bring back some machinery and perform tests until you're 100% sure

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instead of relying on sheer luck on your only and unique person

proper bloom
#

I hope we get to see more flashbacks in s2

fathom marsh
#

Then again, they are just a rebel group

proper bloom
#

Like when they drop the bombs

tame crag
#

but well, i mean, tlou1 was a great game, but not exactly the most logical plot out there lol

fathom marsh
#

They also only have 2003 science

tame crag
fathom marsh
#

Still unrealistic though

tame crag
#

100%

proper bloom
#

Also what was stopping Joel from telling Ellie the truth? The fact that he killed Marlene and ruined the only chance they had to ā€œpossiblyā€ finding a cure?

tame crag
#

yes, and

proper bloom
#

they were about to kill her

#

šŸ„ŗ

tame crag
#

as i understood it (it's pretty open tbh)

#

joel doesn't actually ever change

fathom marsh
tame crag
#

wants to protect people and by doing that he will do nasty things

proper bloom
#

Honestly I would have been straight up

tame crag
#

plus, yes, you may add that to pursue his goal (not being hated by ellie) lies were a perfect fine solution

proper bloom
#

They were going to kill you

fathom marsh
#

I bet Ellie deep down doesnā€™t Believe him

proper bloom
#

Same

#

She canā€™t even remember stuff

fathom marsh
#

But she canā€™t bring herself to admit it to herself

tame crag
#

she doesn't, but what's most important is that probs she knows he knows she would be devastated knowing the truth

proper bloom
#

Part of her wants to keep liking Joel too

#

The truth is painful

#

Well now I have to watch the mandalorian s3

potent nacelle
tame crag
#

i guess my tlou adventure concludes here, except if they change a lot of stuff from s2 and avoid turning this into the venezuelan drama part II is

potent nacelle
#

season 2 will dive into how their relationship ended up being like after that

#

but it truly wouldn't change

#

telling the truth or not

proper bloom
#

Im glad I didnā€™t play the games tbh

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maybe i will when itā€™s all over

whole summit
proper bloom
#

sadly I know the ending of part 2

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or at least a major part of it

whole summit
#

If they cange te stor of te second game for S2 it would e a disservice

dire island
#

I think there's a chance HBO may change some major plot points in season 2

tame crag
#

that would require some big leap of logic from the point you stand by now tho lol

whole summit
tame crag
dire island
#

Certainly

proper bloom
#

Tess was cute ngl

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i will miss her

tame crag
#

#givetessamoreheroicdeath

whole summit
#

I plaed TLOU 2 wen it came out and te onl criticisms were Lev eing trans, Ellie eing lesian, ||Joel dying|| and watever their favourite youtubers ad to say

proper bloom
#

Man this just makes me think about the walking dead

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and how it turned out to be 10 seasons long

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i couldnā€™t even get through all of it

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apparently thereā€™s a movie coming out too?

#

maybe i should go back to twd

whole summit
#

No one is et to provide actual logic argument as to w te game is bad that isn't charged any of tose reasons, atleast not yet that I've seen

tame crag
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i can provide, but i'm ready to bet money you don't care about actual critics and will just stick to your own idea of what someone is to insert it into categories

tame crag
whole summit
#

I explained why I said wat I said and I'm onl furter supported by te review bombing of TLOU Episode 3

tame crag
#

i guess there are other issues lying here aside your or my opinion of TLOU lol

whole summit
#

"I'm ready to bet money you don't care about actual critics and will just stick to your own idea of what someone is to insert it into categories" this is a thinly veiled attack

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But its cleverly veiled in a way tat makes it look like it isn't and therefore if I point it out it looks like I'm offended over nothing lol

tame crag
#

nah it's just you being veemently repeating only people who disliked tlou were homophobes, bigots and the stuff you said, while also automatically disregarding the idea that a vast majority is silent about the actual reasons to dislike it to avoid being paired with such trash

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yeah sure baby, keep reading "behind the lines" i don't write, good luck in your quest

proper bloom
#

yā€™all are arguing over nothing

tame crag
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nah it's over dw

whole summit
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People sa a lot of tings witout realising why theyre saying it :)

tame crag
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mistake was mine in giving it more attention than what it deserved

proper bloom
whole summit
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I guess I'm supposed to read your mind wen ou dont provide an reasons oter tan wat I listed?

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Just ecause ou blankely state "Oh no my reasons are valid actually" then continue to provide no reasons lol

tight moat
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I've been thinking about what didnt work in the finale and I think the biggest reason is that it basically has no second act

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It jumps from them finding the fireflies to Joel's rampage in a matter of minutes

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I know thats how it happens in the game but the structure of the episode should have been different imo

tame crag
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well they also cut short on the finale as well lol

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like, it was even a bit mild in the game compared of what happens here

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not sure why, perhaps budget issues

tight moat
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Maybe if they intercut scenes of Ellie getting ready for the surgery, interacting with the doctors and what not, while Joel is having his conversation with Marlene would have helped the pacing issues

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Kind of adds more gravitas to their deaths later on as well

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And am I remember it wrong or didnt Ellie in the game know that ||she would die as a result of the surgery||?

tame crag
whole summit
tight moat
whole summit
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In the car park?

tight moat
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Yeah

whole summit
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Yeah Marlene didnt give her the choice either

tight moat
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Could be remembering wrong, its been a while since i played it

whole summit
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She was being a hypocrite

tight moat
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Then its just my memory lol

whole summit
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Funky memori

tight moat
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Either way its still a serviceable episode, just a little disappointing that the finale to such a good show ends up havimg such a major flaw

tame crag
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well either they did it this way

whole summit
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Is it really so much of a major flaw

tame crag
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or they had to massively escalate stuff... i think there are also flaws and issues from the direction, which is weird considering how well crafted it was until now

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but if you ask me, budget was being cut short at some point

tight moat
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The second act thing I mean, I consider it a major structural flaw at least

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Thats where all the pacing issues come from

tame crag
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you can see from the stairs scene aswell that something is, indeed, a bit "off"

tight moat
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Weird of HBO that

tame crag
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indeed, until now almost all action scenes had a very standardized preparation, escalation and climax

whole summit
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I agree it could've been longer but I dont think its too much of an issue

tame crag
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but the stairs scene happens way faster than anything else, and that looks like a "we need to cut screen time"

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and that happens with what you mentioned aswell, the marlene/joel confrontation in the room

tight moat
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Also thought the rampage as cool as it was felt a bit off

tame crag
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as someone else said some messages earlier, it looks like a speedrunner doing the game lol

tight moat
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Rip

tame crag
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a lot of questions arise as well: where was marlene when the first shots were fired? Why didn't she join the pew pew? Why did she wait in the garage instead of trying to stop joel before he could enter ellie's room? Most of this stuff comes from stuff not being exactly stellar in the game aswell

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But they could change things a bit much like they did with bill backstory, instead (yet another time) they just followed the script and took a stance which looks mostly like a "let's get this over with"

tight moat
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Yeah i had that feeling too

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Kind of felt they were in a hurry to wrap things up

tame crag
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and they probably were

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fixed schedules i think

tight moat
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Which is sad cause the first half of the episode was really good

tame crag
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yeah from the moment they arrive at the hospital, basically after the giraffe scene

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everything started being rushed af

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btw now that's finished, i'd give it a soundy 8/10, amazing job even with the slippery slopes of episode 2, riley backstory being butchered and 9

digital mauve
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nah 8/10 is too low

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at least 9/10

kindred oak
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Good show
One critique would be: the green screen looked obvious in many scenes.

digital mauve
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i cant think of a scene where i noticed the greenscreen

digital mauve
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"it wasnt time that did it" šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ

small ravine
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Watched all this

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Good show

regal lagoon
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just finished it

dapper plank
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Season 1 as a whole Iā€™ll give 7.5/10 it had a few 9/10 quality episodes no doubt but there needed to be a few more episodes to let the world breathe and show us how much the infected have overrun humanity, characters like Kathleen were completely unnecessary and in hindsight took away from more important stuff

regal lagoon
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the ending aint hit the same as the game

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but i like the way joel kills the doctor.. he was super nonchalant about it ||but little does he know.... ||

regal lagoon
dapper plank
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If you donā€™t see the infected, you donā€™t have a sense of fear or danger that at any time these characters could die which if you havenā€™t played the game would make them even better frankly.

regal lagoon
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yea i seen a lot of people complain about the lack of infected but the show really focuses on the core story than the gameplay if that makes sense

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because to get to point a to point b you gotta deal with a bunch of infected and clickers but the show just skips all of that

dapper plank
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plus iā€™ve mentioned this before, the infected in the last of us have a bit of uniqueness as opposed to shows like The Walking Dead where every zombie is essentially identical

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as a result that creativity is wasted

regal lagoon
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i mean it goes without saying the game is better, i just seen that The Last of Us was the most purchased game last month in the US and UK

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im glad the show is making a lot of people play the game

dapper plank
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agreed, I think itā€™s good to be exposed to both versions to see where people like me are coming from and not just attack us

oblique ferry
regal lagoon
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personally, i think the show does well without showing the gameplay elements in between but it also helps to play the game

dapper plank
oblique ferry
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If so yeah she was kinda there?

dapper plank
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what are you trying to say? I donā€™t understand.

oblique ferry
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She had no impact

dapper plank
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Yes that was my point

oblique ferry
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She harboured revenge agains Henry but it didnt feel like that

regal lagoon
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they just wanted to put a face behind the people trying to hunt them

oblique ferry
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Anyways, yet to watch the last ep

dapper plank
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I liked the little details like Ellie trying to use her blood to cure Sam, wasnā€™t in the game

regal lagoon
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I also liked that Sam was deaf as well

oblique ferry
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Henry and Sam were great

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Miss them :(

regal lagoon
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yeah that ep and the Bill ep are probably still my top 2 favorites

dapper plank
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I really hope we get to see the stage 2 infected in season 2, those are really cool.

exotic wadi
tame crag
exotic wadi
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go the passive route

molten zodiac
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hard to really judge the show since i played the game when it came out
i can see why people like it, the game blows the show out of the water imo
bella ramsey killed it tho the whole way through tho

potent nacelle
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for me, the show completely topples the game in terms of dialogue

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the deliver is almost always better when they are hitting the same plot points

molten zodiac
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im happy the show kept the interrogation dialogue
i think on that side of things the show kept faithful
i just didnt like kathleen, the rushed pace of the show, pedro pascal isnt that good of an actor and joel felt like he had more emotional subtlety in the game, the change from joel in the episode ellie kills david i didnt like
really the pacing of the show was bad, also i know everyone loves the bill episode but i dont think that fits the last of us universe, the sidestory is a bit too happy compared to everything else

potent nacelle
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https://youtu.be/eNF27c3-5Qw idk where you are seeing less ''emotional subtlety'' from Pascal, especially with the finale comparisons being done by IGN, the only moment he even raises his voice during the hospital sequence is when it is actually needed to portray his emotional state. In the game Joel is far too controlled and says too much for someone supposed to be in a state of shock and anger that he is written as. His performance and his dialogue being cut shorter and the performance colder AND angrier at the right moments are nothing but a well done collaboration between screenwriter, director directing his actors and the actors themselves delivering the performance.

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misty trout
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conversation i had with a friend on another server. no explicit spoilers, but its a hint at whats to come in season 2

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for context, if you dont know (MAJOR SPOILERS FOR PART 2 AND PRESUMABLY SEASON 2 OF THE SHOW)

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||the driving force behind part 2 is ellie's desire for revenge against someone named abby, who brutally beat joel to death with a golf club, a la bioshock||

torn dirge
misty trout
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real as fuck

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as someone who's trying to work in vfx, thats so true

potent nacelle
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Craig Mazin spittin them truths

potent nacelle
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great to hear, not so great to know what will fill that extra time we'll get

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oblique ferry
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Man was stuck in a rut lol

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8 eps work on a day crazy

tight moat
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Sounds like a 2000s song from some emo band tomlol

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But fr tho, that sounds taxing af

calm swift
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That was a hell of a ride. I am glad, that I was right about Bella being cast for her acting skills. She doesn't look cute, but damn she carries her role like a champ. Still, I believe, that pacing wise there should be 2 episodes after ā„–8, but maybe with Season two, it will look different.

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And yes, Pedro Pascal is our treasure.

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And the choice of licensed music is top tier too. Damn, this might be the strongest TV show since the 1st season of Mandalorian

near otter
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i figured out the giraffe

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the top part of it was real

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bottom half was CG

regal lagoon
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Contains TLOU2 spoilers

||I watched a review on the Finale and they brought up a really good point. Joel dies in the beginning of TLoU2, but since this is a TV show and Pedro Pascal has star power in terms of many people watch this show because they're fans of Pedro Pascal and how well he plays the portrays Joel, can the writers afford to go with the idea of Joel dying early in Season 2 which will potentially exit Pedro Pascal from the show or should they just completely change up the story?||

calm swift
digital mauve
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im pretty sure they'll split part two into two seasons and ||kill joel at the end of season 2 then have a full season focusing on ellie||

potent marten
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Yeah I think so too

tight moat
muted sable
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A good question to ask everyone to prompt another discussion, who would be your pick to cast as Abby for the show?

tight moat
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Florence Pugh was the first to come to mind

glossy cargo
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@proven kiln

proven kiln
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the best part of the narrative was the character Joel IMO. The only thing that makes the show good is that they don't stray from the video game script much at all, but Pedro totally phones it in as his role as Joel. I don't think Pedro played the game or watched any cinematics of it, or if he did, then Joel definitely did not have the same impact on him or a lot of others tooting his horn right now. I've had my avatar for quite a while before the show came out lol as you can see i'm a big Joel fan

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so yeah that's really the only reason i recommend the game over the show

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I would have chosen Clive Owen or someone who plays a similar temperament for Joel

misty trout
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i dont see how that would be a season ender

digital mauve
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because the game has a lot of flash backs

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a lot of the game takes place before it

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Just finished the last episode

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I give the season like an 8.5

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Good adaptation of the video game however I had issues with the length (number of episodes and length of each), pacing, lack of action or infected and changes of moments from the game

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Ngl I kind of miss it already and the wait for S2 will be annoying but I hope they can change what happens in it

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I also predict the viewership to drop a lot during S2

tame crag
dire island
tame crag
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if they're not planning some huge overhaul to the story of part II, the show won't be near as good as season 1

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like not even remotely

digital mauve
tame crag
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they need to stretch the flashbacks, stitch them together without the constant "let's go back to this moment in time and forget what's happening now" and basically... a nightmare, if you ask me, writing wise

dire island
tame crag
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that makes me like only 5% hopeful lol

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i mean, if they change too much, people will be upset anyway

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finding the middle ground in this isn't possible i think

digital mauve
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I still donā€™t think we got enough time with Joel and Ellie

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The game was different in that sense

tame crag
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either you fix the story and bring out a well developed plot for season 2 and 3

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or it just dies

digital mauve
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This season felt rushed

dire island
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In Mazin I trust, so let's see

tame crag
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well it was rushed, interviews confirm that as well

digital mauve
tame crag
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now i'm not sure WHY it was rushed

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but it was...

digital mauve
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Plus only 9 episodes? Too little for me

dire island
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I don't think this season was rushed at all

tame crag
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the ending is indeed a rush fest, in the second part

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and cutting off all of riley backstory wasn't great either

digital mauve
dire island
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I think we got enough of Riley

tame crag
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i'm sure you do, everyone has different opinions

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but from an objective standpoint, they cut A LOT

digital mauve
tame crag
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everything about left behind was cut except the biggest stuff

digital mauve
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She found supplies in a cupboard ffs

tame crag
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atleast we got time for a kiss, lol, at some point i thought "oh great and now they're also lesbian baiting"

proper bloom
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cope, seethe, mald

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jk jk

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šŸ¤£

tame crag
proper bloom
digital mauve
tame crag
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eeehhh i mean, yes? I enjoyed episode 7 even with all of riley story cut off, i was a bit mad yes

digital mauve
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Episode 9 went way too quick

proper bloom
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call part 2 season 2 pt 1 & 2

tame crag
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but the scenes were very cute and i'm a fucking joke, everytime some teen lesbians are doing stuff i completely lose my adultness and go back being a 15 years old squealing

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so i can't objectively say anything about ep7 aside "too bad riley stuff was cut out and ellie stuff too"

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i loved the direction and the color grading though

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i was looking at every detail and was like " šŸ˜ "

digital mauve
proper bloom
tame crag
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i'm sure it does sound inappropriate, but i'm also a sucker for romance, so that's what you get lol

digital mauve
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Fair enough

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Episode 8 was still my favourite

tame crag
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it was very good

digital mauve
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And probably 5 the one with Henry and Sam and the bloater

tame crag
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even there, i think they softened david a bit too much

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but licenses are welcome

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"humanizing" a pedo sounds like a terrible idea if you ask me, but what can i say, i'm an extremist

digital mauve
tame crag
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eeehh dunno, in the game i was waiting the moment he would backstab me and kill me on the spot

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in the series i almost felt like he cared about the community

digital mauve
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They probably tried to make him seem more human in an apocalyptic world

tame crag
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yeah that's what they also said

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"humanizing" david

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well i dont like humanized david i guess

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kill it with fire while we're at it

digital mauve
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I found video game David less creepy tbh

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Irl was straight up psycho

tame crag
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maybe it's a bit of a POV, like the series david is closer to what a real pedo/rapist is like

digital mauve
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Yeah Could be

tame crag
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the game makes him a bit uncanny, but also less "believable" as a predator

digital mauve
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I hope they go down a different route in S2

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I know they said it will probably be split into 2

tame crag
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turn your prayers to mazin, maybe he will pull a "chernobylXTLOU" surprise

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"what really caused the cordyceps to adapt to the humans was... a nuclear explosion"