#Already solved, just training with problem solving, polynomial equation

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crimson quarry
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I already know how to solve this after the answer being told to me, just wondering how others would even approach the problem from their perspective. Like imagine you got to solve this equation at an olympiad, where would you start?

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tardy yacht
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hello\

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I can sort of describe my approach

crimson quarry
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that would be lovely

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my first instinct was the most simple just square both sides but then you end up with a 4th degree polynomial

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which sucks

tardy yacht
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well that is true but let me solve it first so it will be easier for me to explain

crimson quarry
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oh ok sure

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I am in 9th grade so

tardy yacht
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oh okay ill make sure to use easy methods

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like up to algebra

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crimson quarry
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kay

tardy yacht
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So far ive been able to move everything to one side and then use rrt to just work it

lime widget
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I would probably square both sides to get rid of the square root, but it ends up being a quartic equation, which are not easy to solve

tardy yacht
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Rational root theorem

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and then just try one or two times

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Thats the only non precalc way I know how to solve it

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Other wise you can use polar form to simplify this equation but that would not be algebra only

crimson quarry
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the solution given by the olympiad is damn crazy

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it's in lithuanian though so I'll have to translate it

tardy yacht
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and if you find it hard to expand theres a really easy way to setup polynomial expansion such that you just have to add the diagonals

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It also works for any form of polynomial equation

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And for any multiplication

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so

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??

crimson quarry
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patience

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alright don't know how the formatting will go for this but here

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  1. Solve equation $2x^2 + 6x + 9 = 7x\sqrt{2x + 3}$
    Solution. Because for all x the inequality is true $2x^2 + 6x + 9 > 0$, that means $x > 0$. Marking $u = \sqrt{2x + 3}$, the equation becomes $2x^2 + 3u^2 = 7xu$. From this $(2x^2 - ux) + (3u^2 - 6ux) = 0, x(2x - u) + 3u(u - 2x) = 0, (2x - u)(x - 3u) = 0$. That means $2x - u = 0$ or $x - 3u = 0$. In the first case we get the equation $2x = \sqrt{2x + 3}, 4x^2 = 2x + 3$, the positive solution for the quadratic equation is $x_1 = \frac{1+\sqrt{13}}{4}$, in the second case $x = 3\sqrt{2x + 3}, x^2 = 18x + 27$, the positive solution for this equation is $x_2 = 9 + 6\sqrt{3}$
    Solution: [the first and second solution]
brittle bloomBOT
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A guy named Karolis

crimson quarry
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original image for reference

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@tardy yacht

tardy yacht
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okay

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they did a substitution

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thats pretty interesting

crimson quarry
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yea

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I do not know how they expect any 9th grader to figure that stuff out

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I will have to look into rational root theorem though

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alright is there a way to mark a forum as solved?