#Partial differentiation

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hot spadeBOT
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can anyone see if they get a different answer, if so can they point me in the right direction from there

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  1. You can write both $x$ and $y$ in terms of $t$, ultimately you can write $f(x,y)$ in terms of $t$.
    Let $f(t)=x(t)\sqrt{x(t)-3[y(t)]^2}$. You can then derive $f$ with respect to $t$.
lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

final ice
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$\frac{df}{dt}$ gave me
$$f'(t)=x'(t)\sqrt{x(t)-3[y(t)]^2}-$$
$$\frac{3x(t)x'(t)y(t)y'(t)}{\sqrt{x(t)-3[y(t)]^2}}$$

lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

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If I am not mistaken with the derivation, then set $x(t)=20,x'(t)=-5,y(t)=1,y'(t)=2$

lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

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This gives approximately 124.91

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  1. First order Taylor approximation of $f(\vec{x})$, where $\vec{x}= \begin{pmatrix}x \ y\end{pmatrix}$ is given by:
    $$f(\vec{x}) \approx f(\vec{x_0})+ J(\vec{x})\cdot (\vec{x}-\vec{x_0})$$
    where $\vec{x_0}=\begin{pmatrix}0.5 \ 0.6\end{pmatrix}$ and $J(\vec{x_0})$ is the Jacobian of $f$ evaluated on $\vec{x_0}$
lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

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you've done it differently i see

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not sure if its teh sme

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hold on let me write out what i did

final ice
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sure

storm bridge
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thats for the first question

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i admit i was wrong on the first one since i forgot the negative sign on the second part

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(-30/rt7)

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but im not even sure if this is correct

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this is what i was taught to do though

final ice
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I can try evaluating $\frac{df}{dx}\cdot\frac{dx}{dt} + \frac{df}{dy}\cdot\frac{dy}{dt}$ and see if I get the same. The way I did it seemed the most intuitive to me.

lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

storm bridge
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needs to be partial derivative x and y

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jtluk

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This is my second answer, I actually got this different as well ๐Ÿ˜‚

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ill brb just making hotdogs ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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im back

final ice
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I got
$$\frac{df}{dx}=(x-3y^2)^{\frac{1}{2}}+\frac{x}{2}(x-3y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}=$$
$$(20-3)^{\frac{1}{2}}+\frac{20}{2}(20-3)^{-\frac{1}{2}}=$$
$$(17)^{\frac{1}{2}}+10 \cdot (17)^{-\frac{1}{2}}=$$
$$\frac{27}{\sqrt{17}}$$

lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

storm bridge
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i forgot the -^1/2

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i put 1/2

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nvm

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i didnt

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ah i see what i did

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i halfed 20 twice

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into 5

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yh i thouht x=10

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for some reason

final ice
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$$\frac{df}{dy}=-\frac{6xy(x-3y^2)}{2}-3xy (x-3y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}=$$
$$-\frac{3xy}{\sqrt{x-3y^2}}=-\frac{60}{\sqrt{17}}$$

lament walrusBOT
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Crystopher

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yea, i get those equation

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equations*

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just subbed in wrong

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i think ill try it again and see if its wrnog after eating

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thank you

storm bridge
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i got the same answer correct

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idk what im doing wrong

solid vine
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.solved