#I am stuck on this integral problem

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formal geodeBOT
tulip kestrel
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Can you find any similarities between the linear expression in the numerator and the quadratic expression in the denominator?

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Sure, that's definitely a good option, but it doesn't seem to work in this case. Is there a way we can rewrite the term in the denominator in terms of x-2?

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You're good. The square root's really annoying here, but if we can turn just the quadratic into something nicer, we might be able to work with it down the line.

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The best plan of attack in this case is probably going to be u-substitution.

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In a perfect world, we'd like our u to be x-2, but we can't factor x^2-4x+3 into x-2.

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Yes. since x-2 doesn't work nicely, is there another u which seems natural?

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That's cool. It's a pretty tough u-sub. We've tried the numerator, what happens when we try the denominator? Setting u to equal the whole denominator is a bit complicated, so is there another expression whose derivative might be a bit simpler?

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We tried $u=x-2$ and it was too simple and we tried $u=\sqrt{x^{2}-4x+3}$ and it was too complicated. Is there a $u$ value which fits somewhere inbetween in terms of complexity?

sour spearBOT
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CFM*1034

tulip kestrel
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Our first u is a linear expression, while our second u is a quadratic inside of a square root. If we want something similar to our second u but without both the square root and the quadratic expression, what could we do?

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That's a great idea. What happens when you do that?

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So you have that du/dx = 2x-4. What happens when you substitute du for dx in the integral given this equation?

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Then this is definitely an interesting problem. In this case, we have that du/dx = 2x - 4, so dx = du/(2x-4). Then, our integral becomes $\int\limits_{x=1}^{x=4} \frac{x-2}{\sqrt{u}}\cdot\frac{du}{2x-4}$. We can then cancel out terms to get that this integral equals $\int\limits_{x=1}^{x=4} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{u}} du$, which you might've seen before. From there, we get that the expression equals $\sqrt{u}$ at $x=4$ $- \sqrt{u}$ at $x=1$.

Then, we can substitute our expression for u back into this formula to get that this is equal to $\sqrt{4^{2}-4\cdot 4 +3}-\sqrt{1^{2}-4\cdot 1 +3} = \sqrt{3}$.

sour spearBOT
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CFM*1034