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somber schooner
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Help please

steel dagger
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somber schooner
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steel dagger
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Assign variables to sides of both rectangles

somber schooner
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Ok

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wait

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Let me wait

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@steel dagger

steel dagger
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I didnt mean the corners, i meant the sides

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Like AB , CD and EF

somber schooner
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can you just say AB and GH

somber schooner
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Nvm I'll just try it myself

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steel dagger
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Just call em a,b,c, and d @somber schooner

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Way easier

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Saves time too

somber schooner
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I closed it

steel dagger
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If AB = a and AC = b then
a+b = 30

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You can reopen

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somber schooner
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No

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steel dagger
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Alright

somber schooner
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I'll do it myself

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Thanks

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Suppose a man of mass m stands on a disc with moi I and radius r and starts moving witha velocity v relative to the disc. Then is this a correct way to write the angular momentum of system
L system,ground = L system, disc+ L disc,ground
L= mvr -(I+mr²)ω

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remote falcon
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what is the problem

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send it again

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winter valley
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could someone do these questions so i could check my answers please?

unborn abyss
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how about you post your answers

winter valley
winter valley
unborn abyss
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well ideally with your work so someone can check it

winter valley
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that’s part i

unborn abyss
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okay, sure

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you know, when you initially asked the question, I kind of assumed you'd already done the problem

winter valley
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hola?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185> could someone check my answers pls

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visual canyon
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is a correct?

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tawny drift
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There is more than one solution

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$0\le\theta \le 2\pi$

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tawny drift
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so pi/6 radians is one of the solutions

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but recall the sine curve

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there are two points where theta/x satisfies the equation

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since there are two points within the interval which are where sin(x) = 1/2

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so one is pi/6

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and the other

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is (pi - pi/6)

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due to the symmetry

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fast lion
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fast lion
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Does anybody know what happened here?

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I can't even decode the handwriting

fickle schooner
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Looks like 2n + 5

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definitely not right tho

remote falcon
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the common term or what?

frank goblet
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n-th term of sequence

fickle schooner
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(Guessing the nth term of the sequence)

remote falcon
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oh ok

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yall got it or need help?

fickle schooner
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The question is incomplete atm

fickle schooner
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# fast lion
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remote falcon
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yea I feel so too

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wait

fast lion
remote falcon
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here we are supposed to find n th term and take a = first term right?

fast lion
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Im really confused right now

remote falcon
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if that the answer is

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a + 2n - 2

frank goblet
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isn't the question what the student wrote there?
i took it like op is grading someone and doesn't understand the writing of the student

fast lion
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Oh okay, I also want to double check if Im doing something right

frank goblet
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ah kk

fast lion
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I just got stuck mid way

remote falcon
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alrighty

fast lion
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This right here is also messy

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I tried to solve it

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and

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I got 39 - 5n for

remote falcon
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this should be pretty easy

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oh

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oh

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makes sense now

fickle schooner
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could you please post the entire question instead of tidbits

fast lion
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Yeah

fickle schooner
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thanks

fast lion
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I just didn't know if you wanted to see the mess

fickle schooner
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It's fine. Just want to have all the information

remote falcon
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a1 = 33

fickle schooner
# fast lion

Do you know the general formula for an arithmetic sequence?

fickle schooner
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$$ a_n = a_1 + d(n - 1) $$
good

jolly parrotBOT
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StrangeQuarkAL

fast lion
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yup

fickle schooner
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If you let n = 6, what does that simplify to

fast lion
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5

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just the n-1 part or the whole thing

fickle schooner
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$$ a_6 = a_1 + 5d $$ I

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StrangeQuarkAL

fickle schooner
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yeah

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and of course, d = -5

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so a_6 = ...

fast lion
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33 - 25

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which, 8?

fickle schooner
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$$ a_6 = a_1 - 25 $$
Right

jolly parrotBOT
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StrangeQuarkAL

fickle schooner
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that part is right

fast lion
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okk

fickle schooner
jolly parrotBOT
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StrangeQuarkAL

fast lion
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and I should get

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38 -5n

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I subbed it in

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wait okay, I think I figured it out

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I got -37 for a_15

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Thank you for your assitance!

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visual moon
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can someone explain how to even start this question, bit stuck on how im supposed to solve it

visual moon
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5=b

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a=-2

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yea would love some tips on what this means

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i asked my prof but i still dont understand, they said "It might be easier to think about this in terms of the areas these integrals represent.

"If the area under f from -2 to 5 is 3, and the area under f from 1 to 5 is -2, what is the area under f from -2 to 1"?

Once it clicks, you'll see that (beneath all the terminology) the underlying question is arithmetic.  "If (a+b) = 3 and b=-2, what is a?""

warm current
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fundamental theorem of calculus

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you need some properties of integrals

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$\int_a^b f(x)dx=-\int_b^a f(x)dx$

jolly parrotBOT
warm current
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$\int_a^b f(x)dx=\int_a^c f(x)dx+\int_c^b f(x)dx$

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warm current
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These are fundamental, and you would be wise to understand, on a visual level, why they are true

visual moon
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so can i let b = 5, a = -2, c = 1, use that FTC equation and solve for the integral

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$\int_a^b f(x)dx - \int_c^b f(x)d =\int_a^c f(x)dx$

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Thyroxine

visual moon
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thank you!

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atomic oracle
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Why are they saying there will be two solutions

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Is it a typo?

lime river
atomic oracle
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X = 0 doesnt satisfy it -1 = 1?

raven girder
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If you are on the affine plane, it definitely has only one solution but it is not x=0

atomic oracle
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By affine do you mean real?

raven girder
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No, I mean affine

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Don't worry, you are

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Hahaha

atomic oracle
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I am confused

raven girder
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Projective geometry exists 🥵

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But don't worry, it's advance stuff

atomic oracle
raven girder
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Yes

atomic oracle
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Without a graphing calculator, am i supposed to solve questions like this by like plotting the general shape of the curve?

raven girder
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I think so. These equations are not solvable with simple calculations by hand

lime river
raven girder
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I would graph or use a numerical method

lime river
raven girder
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Bisection, Newton-Raphson...

atomic oracle
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Taylor series till x2?

atomic oracle
lime river
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I mean it's not diff to plot the graph of x²-1 and e^x

atomic oracle
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Yea

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pastel remnant
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hello im a little confused on part b of this question . i dont understand how to find lines BD and AD

pastel remnant
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ive found OC which is 33.1 to 3sf

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is there a theorm that i dont know ?

warm current
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perimeter of DAB is just the length of BD+DA+arc length of BA

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oh. You don't know how to find BD and AD

pastel remnant
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yes

warm current
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yeah you want to use similar triangle theorems here

pastel remnant
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arc length of BA is 14.4cm if thats useful ?

warm current
pastel remnant
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im not sure how i would use the similar triangles tho

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i have no value for a side of the triangle OBD

warm current
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you have OB

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you can do this with trig too. It's just similar triangle laws with less steps

pastel remnant
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how do i get OB ?

warm current
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Think of O being the center of the circle and what that means

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omg

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minor eagle
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can someone help me with this

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first i converted the annual interest rate to a monthly interest rate

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then i converted the annual interest rate to a monthly interest rate, then I determined the total number of payments, then I used the formula for the future value of an ordinary annuity, then I calculated the amount and got $92.91

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but idk if thats right

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@tall flint

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Hints?

next dove
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Telescoping series

flint oracle
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Ermm

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How to proceed in it tho 😭

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short orchid
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guys i did this but i think they’re wrong

cursive wraith
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range of f on [a,b] isn't just f(a) <= f(x) <= f(b)

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imagine your function starts by decreasing and then increases

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like x^2+3

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obviously the lowest you're gonna be able to go isn't (-2)^2 + 3

short orchid
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oooh

cursive wraith
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have you seen limits/derivatives yet or?

short orchid
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whats that

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sorry im new to this topic

cursive wraith
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ok nvm

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basically

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you kinda have to visualize the function

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like x^2 decreases until it reaches 0, and then it increases again

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and it's the opposite for -x^2

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so when you study functions with constant+...x^2, if 0 is in your domain then f(0) is probably the min

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and when you study functions with constant-...x^2, f(0) is probably the max

short orchid
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ooohhh

short orchid
cursive wraith
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ok

short orchid
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i can visualize quadratic and linear, but what is “x^2 -2”??

cursive wraith
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you've seen the curve for x^2 right?

short orchid
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yess

cursive wraith
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ok

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well if you ADD a constant

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it only moves the curve up or down

short orchid
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ohhhhh

cursive wraith
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like so

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so the minimum is still at the same X coordinate

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(but at a different y coordinate)

short orchid
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ohhhhh

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i see

cursive wraith
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and

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when i do -x^2

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the curve is flipped

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so the minimum becomes the maximum

short orchid
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ooooo

cursive wraith
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(and vice versa)

short orchid
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what if theres a number in the coefficient of x^2

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like 2x^2

cursive wraith
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that's the next part

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the curve actually runs "faster" through the values

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x^2 = 1x^2, so 1 is "normal speed"

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2x^2, 2 is "faster speed"

short orchid
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ohhhh wow

cursive wraith
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and 0.5x^2 for example

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0.5 is "slower speed"

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so as long as the coefficient is POSITIVE, it doesn't change the increasing/decreasing behaviour

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it just accelerates/decelerates it

cursive wraith
short orchid
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yesss

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ohhhh thats so cool

cursive wraith
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so now, all functions that look like ax^2 + b have no secrets for you

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since the constant 'b' only moves the curve up or down

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and 'a' tells you how fast we're running through the values, and if the curve is flipped or not

short orchid
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okkkk thank you so so much

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lifesaver frr

cursive wraith
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👍

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frank goblet
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hello^^

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frank goblet
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i have this graph as an example

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i want to calculate the green area by numeric integration

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in the real context, i have discrete data

thin sigil
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That graph is lowkey a sh*tpost

frank goblet
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now to calculate the area, i could calculate rectangles as shown

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or i could calculate trapezoids

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i have heard to never use rectangles for this

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however with trapezoids, the calculated area will always be too small

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are trapezoids still the way to go?

thin sigil
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This really depends on the situation, what kind of precision are you looking for?

frank goblet
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i also heard of simpsons way, but that apperently requires an even number of areas to calculate

thin sigil
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I don't fully remember all the details of numeric integration, do you have the function in analytic form given as well?

frank goblet
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no

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it is measured data

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i would guess it is a sinus wave with damping

thin sigil
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Well trapezoidal will always give you smaller result with the error tending to 0 as the discretion become smaller and smaller

frank goblet
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yeah, the sad thing is, i am limited to a few points per peak

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like 3 to 5 points

thin sigil
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Mind sending a snipit of the data here?

frank goblet
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yeah, one second

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one sec, im gonna search for the peak data

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that makes it easier

thin sigil
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In theory, trapezoidal should be more accurate for lower discretion than rectangles, but I don't think it's guaranteed

frank goblet
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ok i just found out there are even peaks with only one data point

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because sometimes, the frequency of measurement is that bad 😦

thin sigil
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yea in those cases the error will be more significant because the trapezoids will make like a sharp triangle

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if that makes sense

frank goblet
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hmm

thin sigil
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Funnily enough I don't have excel and can't open that file, lol

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hold on, let me figure something out

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Nvm got it to work

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So I assume you're integrating acceleration with respect to time

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there are 2 time bars?

frank goblet
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yeah i think they are equal

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example values:
(8.2168, -10,29)
(8.2174, -4.77)
(8.2180, -2.39)
(8.2186, -2.27)
(8.2193, -7.87)
(8.2199, -19.92)
meaning: (time/s, acceleration/ m/s^2)

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here the first and last pair would be ignored due to them being lower than the baseline acceleration g

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so we would have 4 points

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i think here the trapezoids would be better

thin sigil
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I mean this data is kinda funky tbh

frank goblet
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yeah it is haha

thin sigil
frank goblet
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wait what

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hmm

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odd

thin sigil
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Unless I messed up with graphing this

frank goblet
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column H works better

thin sigil
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but that lonely point down there be really weird

frank goblet
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context is a ball bouncing on a table
we have a smartphone on the table
smartphone measures x y and z acceleration

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so its pretty much only noise
but when ball bounces -> acceleration

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therefore it is most notable in z direction (column H)

thin sigil
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I'm actually an engineer, so this looks interesting to me

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There's a lot of noise here

frank goblet
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the idea here is that the change in velocity can under certain circumstances depend on the change in velocity of the table and in turn on the change of velocity of the ball

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the noise is sadly not really reducable without ai or something else because people run around

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that's why we also took data with a machine instead of humasns

thin sigil
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Well, the thing is, if we assume the surface is nice and flat (which I guess you made sure using a leveler) then the z acceleration should be constant for the most part, the slight change in altititude from the bounce shouldn't affect the graitational acceleration by a significant ammount right?

frank goblet
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it should

thin sigil
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Nice and flat and horizontal**

frank goblet
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ah you mean the horizontal acceleration shouldn't change?

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it does change because of the ball's spin

thin sigil
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No I mean the vertical acceleration shouldn't change

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assuming you're only meassuring positional acceleration

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Collumn H

frank goblet
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ball bounce on table -> table oscillates -> phone oscillates -> oscillation requires acceleration other than g

thin sigil
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ah so the phone isn't seperated from the table

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I assumed it would have it's own stand or something

frank goblet
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it is on the table, at best fixed to it

thin sigil
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Well, anyway, since you have a lot of data points and the discretion step of time is small I'd argue that using trapezoid aproximation is fine here, thought you look into applying simpsons rule somehow

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Generally, the higher order the function you use the more accurate the method should be (this is not a guarantee though, since some functions are just wacky like that)

frank goblet
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thx for the info^^

thin sigil
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But remember, the method will only give you as good an answer as the data set itself is good even in the best case scenario, so in your analysis take into account both the error of the method and the error of the meassuring method with all the noise present (possibly creating an analytical model, solving it and comparing)

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(C) and (C') are two circles with respective centers O and O', they intercept in both points A and B. M is a point (C) distinct from A and B and MB intercepts (C') in a different point M'

How do i prove that angle OAO' = MAM'

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brisk steeple
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,w rotate

tawny harness
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tf

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remove the w thing

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i think it means wolfram

brisk steeple
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yes

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,w rotate

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oh my

tawny harness
brisk steeple
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,w

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,w rotate image

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nvm

tawny harness
green dew
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u can prove that triangles AOO' and BOO' are congruent

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so then angles AOO' and BOO' are equal

tawny harness
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ok

green dew
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and that also AO'O and BO'O are also equal angles

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angle M'MA = 1/2 BOA

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its the inscribed angle theorem and the angle located at center in circle C

tawny harness
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alr and?

green dew
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since angle AOB = AOO' + BOO' which are equal so AOB = 2AOO'

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then M'MA = AOO'

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same justification for the equal angles MM'A = OO'A

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thus the two triangles AOO' and AMM' are similar and the angle OAO' = MAM'

tawny harness
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yeah i got it now ty

green dew
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npp

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The answers B right???

red falcon
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bbg bgb gbb bbb ggg ggb gbg bgg

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it’s not B they are independent in this example

long coral
# gusty sail

b is not right, you essentially have to find how many combinations of the genders in the 3 children they can have like what atif sent

red falcon
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so how many out of the 8 i sent satisfy what u need

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(hint: you just count them)

gusty sail
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3/8

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When would it be 1/8

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What would the question be

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I rlly hate probability

long coral
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that can only be 1/8 because there is no way for there to be another combination in which all 3 are boys

red falcon
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oh yes

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but i think he said 1/8 because he multiplied 1/2 1/2 1/2

gusty sail
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Yeh yeh

long coral
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or it can ask for the probability that they are all girls which would be 1/8

gusty sail
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That’s what I did

long coral
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i see

gusty sail
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If it’s in order

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Will it be 1/21/21/2

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?

red falcon
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if the outcome depends on the previous one

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order doesnt matter

long coral
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^

gusty sail
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Like first is boy second is girl third is boy

red falcon
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nono

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we disregard here biological facts

gusty sail
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Oh

red falcon
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you can take head tails example its the same as boy girl

gusty sail
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Ahhh

red falcon
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because it says they have equally likely outcomes

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just like h/t

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i remembered this with the basketball analogy

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if a player hits a point with the probability of 0.9

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then he has 0.9*0.9=0.81 probability scoring

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on the second throw

gusty sail
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Uh huh

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Yeh yeh

red falcon
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so if he had 1/2 it would be 1/8

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on the third throw

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wait i need to look this up im rusty

gusty sail
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I think ur right

red falcon
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yeah but i can’t remember the intuition for why

distant plinth
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what are you guys talking about?

red falcon
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intuition when u should multiply probabilities

distant plinth
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wdym

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example?

gusty sail
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I rlly hate probability because of this

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I don’t know when to add or multiply

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Or like do something with the numbers

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The last chapter I need for my uni test as well

red falcon
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basketball plyr shoots 3 times in a row w prob 0.8 of making a shot. whats the prob that he makes all 3

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@distant plinth

distant plinth
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0.8^3?

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For probability

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I usually do 2 counting problems

red falcon
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we know the solution

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we want intuition

distant plinth
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Desired cases/Total cases

red falcon
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@gusty sail if u have or in wording u add if u have and u multiply

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i think thats it

distant plinth
long coral
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i believe that knowing whether the events are mutually exclusive or not can help

red falcon
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he struggles w that

distant plinth
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oh

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intuition?

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let me think

red falcon
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@gusty sail u know any set theory, unions intersections etc?

gusty sail
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Yeh I do

gusty sail
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But like

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The example I gave u

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There’s no or but it’s still add

red falcon
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yeah i get you, you want to get good at identifying when is and and when is or

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thats the issue

distant plinth
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wdym when is or?

red falcon
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ie what are the events

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the operator or

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$ \lor $

distant plinth
red falcon
distant plinth
red falcon
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unions are or intersections are and

gusty sail
distant plinth
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ok

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yep

distant plinth
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this is a question I would count desired cases versus total cases

red falcon
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we done did that above

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bbb ggg etc

distant plinth
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o

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mb

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so what's the question

red falcon
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so lets try help him

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identify the events

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in probability sense

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so he can frame it as p(A u B) or p(A \cap B)

distant plinth
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What's A/B

red falcon
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yeah i think here we had 3 events that satisfy our needs

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bbg bgb gbb

gusty sail
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Yeh

red falcon
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ok those are then A B C

red falcon
gusty sail
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So p(A) ….

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Is all the same

red falcon
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yes

gusty sail
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Being 1/8

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?

red falcon
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but im trying to think of a wording where we would need to use intersection

red falcon
gusty sail
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Do u guys have

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Like a probability work book?

red falcon
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whats a work book?

gusty sail
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Including everything

red falcon
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textbook?

gusty sail
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Sample questions

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Book full of questions

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About prob

red falcon
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we used sheldon probability textbook but i have the exam in september

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sheldon ross. its good

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it goes slowly and thoroughly. but for this level khan academy helped me

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but it’s been a year so i forgot

gusty sail
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Maybe I should try

red falcon
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you can speed run

gusty sail
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I’m gonna be cooked if the test has too many probability questions

red falcon
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just believe in urself

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and u can go fast

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x2 speed

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videos

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or 1.5

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if u dont have time

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if u do, go 1.25

gusty sail
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Khan academy?

red falcon
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yes

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lookup probability course

gusty sail
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Is organic chem tutor good?

red falcon
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you will be master of these things

red falcon
gusty sail
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Ok ok

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Will come back

red falcon
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because he explains to u like ur first time seeing it

gusty sail
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Yeh

red falcon
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whats the probability that u ll roll 3 times in a row a two?

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i just thought of this

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its the basic example

gusty sail
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1/6^3

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Right?

red falcon
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yes

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u multiplied

gusty sail
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Yeh

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Ok ok

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I’ll be back

red falcon
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glgl

gusty sail
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Thanks for recommendations friend

red falcon
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khan the best bet honestly

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what is the function that gives the curved part of the relation, the problem with looking this up is that most of the talk around this is how it can be parametrized, which isn't what I'm looking for

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I also don't want to conditionally define it like in the second image with the cutoff at x=e

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distant plinth
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oh that

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you need it in 1 function right

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yes

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I don't know of a method that would combine the functions even if we had the top part too

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idk how to do that either I'll think for a bit

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but you need both x and f(x) as a combined condition

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how?

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at x = e f(x) = e

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it's just a point

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I randomly tried this and it worked so now I just gotta solve for y

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hi can i have help with part b

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can I have help with d

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i have no idea what to do

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my eqs

tulip ore
# sterile turtle my eqs
  1. write another copy of equation 1 then square both sides
  2. use this to solve for alpha * beta
  3. use alpha + beta and alpha * beta to solve for alpha and beta
  4. with that, find m and b
tulip ore
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🤔 write down alpha + beta = 2

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another time

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preferably somewhere else

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so that you can square both sides of it

sterile turtle
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i got it with

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wait

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uh

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wrong img

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solve then m=10?

tulip ore
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@sterile turtle no

sterile turtle
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does this not work?

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oh wait nvm I misread what you wrote, yea thats correct

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okok

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thanks for the help

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how to find sp_R(S) = W_1

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pulsar stump
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as in, how to find the set S

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p=polynomial function

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i cant find a linear combination

prime bramble
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wait, what are you doing?

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finding a set that spans W_1?

pulsar stump
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W_1 is a vspace

grizzled dust
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what is this notation R_3[x], does that mean VS of polynomials of degree 3 or less?

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huh?

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∫oosh (lemonsaurus appreciator)

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so P_3 would mean polynomials of degree 3 or less. i.e. VS that contains polynomials of degree 3, 2, 1 and 0

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so you mean P_2 or P_3 with your notation?

pulsar stump
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they use the <=3 for three or less

grizzled dust
grizzled dust
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see above

pulsar stump
grizzled dust
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ok

pulsar stump
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how do we go from here?

grizzled dust
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well an element of that set would be $a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2+a_3x^3$

jolly parrotBOT
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∫oosh (lemonsaurus appreciator)

grizzled dust
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plug in 1 and 2 for x and you get some equations i guess that restrict the coefficients

pulsar stump
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i already can represent a0 and a1 both by a3 and a4

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a0*x^3...

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now what

grizzled dust
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you should have 2 degrees of freedom with what coefficients you pick yeah, then you can get the other 2 coefficients based on that

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and you should be able to get 2 linearly independent vectors from that which form a basis for what you need

pulsar stump
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sure i can get s(...
...
...
0)
+
t(...
0
...
...)

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s and t are reals

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u mean spam s=t=1?

grizzled dust
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well W is a subspace of P3 (it's trivial to verify the properties) so if you find a basis for W then by definition that basis spans W

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so it's a set that spans W as you need

pulsar stump
# grizzled dust so it's a set that spans W as you need

so you're baiscally saying what i think right? represnet like i did above the solution vspace and set s and t to be 1

and then the basis solution (we set s=t=1) and with the x and x^2... in the right formula will form the set

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there will be 2 elements in the set S

grizzled dust
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i'm not sure exactly what you mean, maybe i'm also not expressing it the best way, but yeah the whole solution set should be expressible as a LC of 2 vectors (i.e. polynomials) (since you have 2 independent coefficients and 2 dependent ones)

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so what are the equations with the coefficients you ended up with?

grizzled dust
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like to give an example with a plane in R3: say you have some random general plane equation like $ax+by+cz = d, you can pick any values for up to 2 of the variables x, y, or z and then solve for the 3rd in terms of the other 2. so we can think of that as 2 variables being independent and 3rd one being dependent, so this ends up being a 2 dimensional vector space (a plane) b.c. 2 independent variables
if you are expressing equation of a line, for any given x, y, or z there will be unique values of the other 2 (ok excepting lines parallel to one of the axes), so single independent variable => 1 dim vector space

pulsar stump
grizzled dust
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ok so that should be a basis since theyre linearly independent

pulsar stump
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well i think so

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ty for your help mate

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this will just be

101.82 pm (1.96)(1.2/(sqrt(6)) right?

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How would I go on about proving that $\lim_{x \to 0} \left( \frac{x-sin(x)}{x} \right) sin \left(\frac{1}{x}\right) = 0$?

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I tried graphing it and it indeed approached zero.

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Although the latter function didn't seem like it approached zero.

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I‘d split the fraction in the brackets

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iron basin
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Distributing the brackets seems to complicate it further.

random yacht
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I mean one

iron basin
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Yes.

gloomy scroll
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I didn‘t want to distribute, it was just to prove that the part in the brackets goes to zero

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Now for the other bit, notice that the sin function is bounded

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!nosols

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Oh, that's a fair point; seems like that was the only part where I was lacking enough thought. That solves the problem then, I guess. Thanks.

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How do I find the value of k such that the intersection of x^2 - 6x +k and the black line meet the at intersection of the black line and the red line?

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everything is right in front of you

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the black line represnts x = 4

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since they intersect that means that their y values are the same

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so you can equate both equations

brisk steeple
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how to find where line ax+b and cx+d interesect?

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wait hold on i think i read it wrong

thorny zenith
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solve
$24+7 = 4^2-64+k$

jolly parrotBOT
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psychoFungus

brisk steeple
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HOW

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k = 23

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I need to think harder

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You're correct no doubt

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,w 2x + 7 = x/5

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brisk steeple
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where would lines ax+by + c and dx+ey+f interesect?

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2x+7-y

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x-4+y^0

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,w 2x+7-1 = x-4+1

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brisk steeple
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2x+7 = y
a^0*x+0 = 4

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,w 2x+7 = y and x=4y

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brisk steeple
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,w 2x+7 = x/4

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brisk steeple
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okay. I mean

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2x+0y + 7 = 0

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x+0y-4 = 0

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,w 2x+7 = x-4

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brisk steeple
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omg

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THE VALUE OF X would be 4. X=4 fixed

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,w 2*4+7

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brisk steeple
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gosh

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Okay

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I need to less overreact

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,w 24 - 64 + k = 0

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brisk steeple
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,w substitute x=4 in x^2 -6x+k = 1+k

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brisk steeple
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,w substitute x=4 in x^2 -6x+k = 15

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LEET@S GO

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This was not hard just I was not focused at the momemnt.

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I have found that at k = 23, curve x^2-6x+k is tangent to 2x+7

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is 1/sin x cos x correct?

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inland ivy
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tan^2x + 1/tan x
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guys help

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restive wedge
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for like

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d and after

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i am very confused

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idk what is hould do about that denominator on d

wet swallow
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L'hopital

cloud zephyr
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the method for d is usually called "multiplying the conjugate"

wet swallow
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Or that

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Lol

restive wedge
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vital anchor
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yes

restive wedge
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alright

cloud zephyr
upper drum
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and then you can apply standard limits

restive wedge
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ohh ic

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ok so witht aht im left with

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3sin6x+rt(2x+9)sin6x/(2x)

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alright

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now

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do i substitude?

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wait no that'd make

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2.0

cloud zephyr
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or you can keep the brackets 🙂
(3+√(2x+9))sin(6x)/(-2x)

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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oh alr ill keep the brackets

cloud zephyr
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yea, then you can sin(x)/x identity when limit tends to 0

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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ok so acording to a rule idk the name of

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that sin6x/-2x becomes -3

cloud zephyr
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yep

restive wedge
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that times the other thing

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is just the answer?

cloud zephyr
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yep

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well,

restive wedge
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alright ty!

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well(?)

cloud zephyr
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sub the 0 in the last step

restive wedge
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substitude first?

cloud zephyr
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that'll do!

restive wedge
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alright yay

cloud zephyr
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so it will become
(3+3)(-3)

restive wedge
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wait

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oh wait yeah

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yeah i got -18

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got scared bc iw rote it diff

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uhh do you have the time to help me do the entire thing?

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like e til j?

restive wedge
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thank you so much

cloud zephyr
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let's do those until I'm busy

restive wedge
cloud zephyr
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so, (e) do you have any clue so far?

restive wedge
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im trying to find a rule that transforms the tan

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ive been told to like

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maybe remove the numbers on the x

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to be

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oh ig i cant do it here

cloud zephyr
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my approach would be tranform cos(2x) something in sin²(x)

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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yeah

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using the rule

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i dont remmeber it so im kinda looking at it

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while doing this

cloud zephyr
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sure, no worries, i also googled it lol

restive wedge
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since it was -cos2x

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does it just become positive 2sin^2a

cloud zephyr
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yea

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next

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we can multiply x²/x² to the expression

restive wedge
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what does that do?

cloud zephyr
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sorry, typo, should be x²

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fixed

restive wedge
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oh alr

cloud zephyr
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$\frac12\cdot\frac{\tan^23x}{x^2}\cdot\frac{x^2}{\sin^2x}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Biscuity

restive wedge
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woah wait i get the 1/2

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oh

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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oh yeah ig

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i c

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since

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multiplying fractions

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the denominator getsmultiplied

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you can just switch their places

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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ok so the tan

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i have this

cloud zephyr
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nice

restive wedge
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does the fact that tis ^2 do anything?

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or

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could i just say 3/1

cloud zephyr
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recall tan²3x=(tan3x)²=(tan3x)(tan3x)

restive wedge
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and x² is (x)(x)

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9?

cloud zephyr
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so, we can further break it into

restive wedge
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since there's now 2 of them

cloud zephyr
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$\frac{\tan 3x}{x}\cdot\frac{\tan 3x}{x}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Biscuity

restive wedge
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3/1*3/1

cloud zephyr
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careful

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it should be 1/9 <--- wrong

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o wait

restive wedge
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$\frac{3}{1}{x}\frac{3}{1}$

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wiat how can that be

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(oh oops)

cloud zephyr
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sorry, my bad

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yea 9 it is

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so, the final answer will be?

jolly parrotBOT
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veryhuman

cloud zephyr
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XD

restive wedge
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wrong x

cloud zephyr
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it's alright

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we both get it

restive wedge
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4.5?

cloud zephyr
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yep

restive wedge
cloud zephyr
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next!

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same situation

restive wedge
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i love that jellyfish dude if i had nitro those would be stickers

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oh ight

cloud zephyr
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ahhh

restive wedge
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turnin that cos

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oh nvm cant change the cos

cloud zephyr
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into sin²(3x) with things

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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wait i can

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oh can i take that 2x out

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id just be

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2x/sin(3x) now

cloud zephyr
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yay

restive wedge
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and just makin sure thats 2/3?

cloud zephyr
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lemme double check

restive wedge
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oh alr

cloud zephyr
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2xsin(3x)/2sin²(3x)

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hmmm

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the 2's should be cancelled

restive wedge
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wait

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oh yeah i forgot to put 2 infront of sin²

cloud zephyr
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yea that

restive wedge
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1/3

cloud zephyr
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yep

restive wedge
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ok this one is kinda

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ok wait no

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i can take the tans out

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to be

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tan3x(1-cos2x)/4x^3

cloud zephyr
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nice!

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and then same old trick

restive wedge
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ok so

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now im at

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ive decided to do this actually

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$\frac{2sin^2(a)}{4x^2}\cdot\frac{tan(3x)}{x}$

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(lol idk how to do the multiply sign)

cloud zephyr
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you can use \times or \cdot for multiplication

restive wedge
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oh ok

cloud zephyr
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and correct!

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well, a and x

jolly parrotBOT
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veryhuman

cloud zephyr
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mixed up

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anyways we both understand

restive wedge
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oh yeah that a is supposed to be an x

cloud zephyr
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and then final step, easy

restive wedge
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3/2?

cloud zephyr
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yep

restive wedge
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next one

cloud zephyr
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this is interesting

restive wedge
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oh woah

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lim x->-2

cloud zephyr
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yea

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any clue?

restive wedge
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this rule?

cloud zephyr
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hint: same old trick

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nah

restive wedge
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oh wait same trick

cloud zephyr
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but you'll have to modify it quite a bit

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btw, keep the (x+2) as (x+2)

restive wedge
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im kinda confused on what to do with the stuff at the bottom

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yeah

cloud zephyr
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make the denominator looks like (x+2) too

cloud zephyr
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identity

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(a+b)²

restive wedge
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oh wait is it just

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i thought there would be 2 possible answers

cloud zephyr
restive wedge
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(x+2)^2

cloud zephyr
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that's what happens when we solve quadratic equations

restive wedge
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OH

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OH WAIT

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SINCE

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the bottom

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and top

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are the ame

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can we assume

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x+2=B

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for example