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This implies that tanx=-1
Abosulety
How you checked?
0 to 2π
Oh yeah okay then you will have solutions
Be careful when you solve the systems though
$\sin x\ge 0\land \cos x=0 \lor\sin x<0\land \tan x=-1$
kheerii
sinx<0 and tanx=-1 what do you mean be careful here?
tanx=-1 will have two solutions in [0, 2pi], one where sinx>0 and one where sinx<0
You take only the solution with sinx<0
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Ohh i see
So in previous case cosx is 0 at π/2,3π/2
We will discard 3π/2
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why discard 3pi/2
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What rule would I use for this one?
first step is always to identify common factors and factor those out
Yeah I know how to do it
but I used the rules gcf and difference of squares
is there a rule I forgot to name?
Sorry, I didn't make that clear
oh if you're just naming rules, yeah you factored out the gcf and factored a difference of squares
i don't see anything else
if those are directly linked to your steps then that's it
were there any steps you performed with no justification?
Yeah i suppose it’s A
Yeah, I was just wonering if there was a rule I forgot to name, I am just trying to practice knowing the rules, thanks guys
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how am I to find D?
But do you see how you can get the point using the vectors involved?
Let's do a simpler version of a problem
If (0,0), (1,0), (0,1) make a right triangle
What point can we add to make it a square
(1,1)
What about (1,0), (2,0), (1,1)
(2,1)
uhhhhh
then should I wait
can I
say vector AB = DC, BC = AD, put that in xi + yj thing and then do simultaneous or is that clunky
Do you understand how to solve the problem if the right angle was at the origin?
idk how to solve with right angle vectors
AC = AO + OC?
idk man
How do you get (0,2) by applying simple operations to the set of vectors I gave
This is why I said a drawing might be helpful to understand what is happening
im not saying I dont know low to do what youre saying, but can you saying without math lingo cause im terminologically dumb
What part
sorry just gimme a sec
do you mean this?
Right
cause theyre equal? or because you can add vectors to give your result?
How do you get the top point using the bottom vectors you drew
equal magnitude, weird direction idk
You are just adding them
ah true
The displacement of the opposite point is the sum of the displacement of the two adjacent points from the point
like this?
sorry gimme a sec i’m trying to relate this back to the q
so I have this
im stuck on two parts here now
if i were to find it, I would be finding BD
how would I separate that in order to find D? do I separate into BO + OD = BD?
and with the 2sqrt13, how would I find the exact placement if all i have is that
The kind of goofy way if you can't figure out how to use the vectors here
Would be to shift the problem to the origin and shift it back
You have AB and BC as vectors right
Use those to get from B to D
Same thing we practiced
Here point be takes the role of the origin in our simpler case
uhh is this better, considering I found the column vector thing from part a
ill try this for the ractice
Should give you the same answer
Don't see anyone wrong with it
is this what you were thinking or am I doing a different way again
This is it yeah
But the way you did is good too
This was just using the most geometrically intuitive way for me
You're welcome
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Somebody help me
how can i help
what is your gender
What??
Male why??
just a minute and i will explain
how does that matter lol
Yheaa
it dosent i'm just asking
See I am indian i don't understand what pronoun are
I am just simple male ... And please solve my problem
okay
ykw
i'll tell u
simply substitute sin x = t
then use the quadratic formula
@hybrid prism
I did .. and not got the answer
I think it's a wrong approach
it is the correct approach.
Please show me the solution
what have you tried
I am not able to understand the solution
I have tried everything
I have asked this same question in another server.. they are stuck for 3 hours..
alr leme crack at it
alr just to clarify, when they say the equation has roots (0, 180), they mean x = 0 and x = 180 are the roots?
i might get it hang on
this one is some trouble
aw man
i will admit
this one is pretty mind boggling
i couldnt get it
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Because at 3π/2 sinx is negative but we are looking sinx>=0
with the substitution t = sin x its just straightforward, but lets start at the beginning.
(sin x)^2-k sin x -3 = 0, and we are asked for which k there are two dinstinct real roots in [0,pi].
Do you understand the question?
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Yes
Then
ist a quadratic equation in sin x , lets write t instead of sin x, t = sin x., so we get
t^2-kt-3=0
OK?
Yes
now solve for t.
Can you explain me your solution by writing somewhere
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its a simple quadratic equation. you can do this by yourself.
I am stuck .
I have solved this .. but my method is different.. I want to understand illustration method
write down the soultion for the quadratic equation t^2-kt-3 = 0 and i will do the next step with you.
well, waited long enough.
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An arithmetic sequence with 2024 terms has first term 27/2and common difference -5/4 How
many of the 2024 terms are integers?
(A) 3 (B) 506 (C) 507 (D) 505 (E) 1011
- 54/4
- 49/4
3) 44/4
7) 20/4
So every (4n+3)th step is integer
how did you find it
I guess that is a way too but I found it using number of terms formula:
Let's say we have another sequence that goes like: [3, 7, 10, ..., 2023] I have to find number of terms using: (an-a1)/r + 1 => (2023-3)/4 + 1 so 506
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How do I get started on this question?
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- To find the limit lim∞ P(Sn ≤ 7n), we need to consider the total waiting time Sn during n mornings. Since the waiting time for bus 372 is exponential with a mean of 10 minutes and for bus 75 is exponential with a mean of 20 minutes, the waiting times can be modeled as exponential random variables.
Let X be the waiting time for bus 372 and Y be the waiting time for bus 75. Then, the total waiting time Sn can be represented as Sn = X1 + X2 + ... + Xn, where Xi is the waiting time on the ith morning.
The sum of exponential random variables follows a gamma distribution. Therefore, Sn follows a gamma distribution with parameters n and λ, where λ is the rate parameter.
Since the sum of exponential random variables is gamma-distributed, we can calculate the probability P(Sn ≤ 7n) using the cumulative distribution function (CDF) of the gamma distribution.
- To find the limit limn→∞ P(Tn ≥ 0.6n), we need to consider the number of times the bus 372 is taken during n mornings, denoted by Tn.
Given that Tn follows a binomial distribution with parameters n and p, where p is the probability of taking bus 372, we can calculate P(Tn ≥ 0.6n) using the cumulative distribution function (CDF) of the binomial distribution.
By using the given hint and the properties of exponential and binomial distributions, we can compute the required probabilities and limits based on the provided information.
This took me 5 min so please read it
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hello! I'm working on a problem and I cannot for the life of me how to take this integral. It starts with
$$\int\limits^{\infty}_{0} \mathrm{e}^{-st} \left(\sin\left(at\right) - at \cos\left(at\right)\right) , \mathrm{d}t$$
which becomes
$$-\frac{\mathrm{e}^{-st} \left(\left(\left(a^{2} s^{2} + a^{4}\right) t + s^{3} + 3a^{2} s\right) \sin\left(at\right) + \left(\left(-as^{3} - a^{3} s\right) t + 2a^{3}\right) \cos\left(at\right)\right)}{\left(s^{2} + a^{2}\right)^{2}} + C$$
how do I then use the bounds to find the definite part?
PolloTundra | Aidan B
can you just plug in the values?
yes, how do I plug in the infinity though? it has been a while haha
you argue that $e^{-s \infty}$ is exponentially small
jan Niku
and that no other term is able to grow fast enough at this limit to counteract the decay
makes sense, thank you!
since its all polynomial and oscillating
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Hi all,
For context, the highschool exam isn't heavy in linear algebra, its kinda stuck to just 2d and 3d vectors, mostly dealing with projectile, volumes and motion
im aware of linear independence as a concept but i cannot use it in an exam that im prepping for
is there another way to solve this question without referring to independence
the textbook is a cambridge print but doesnt have worked solutions unfortuantely
Combine like terms and assume lambda != l and show that they will have to be parallel
ah okay via contradiction seems easy enough
that works, thx
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What does “algebraic sum” mean here?
i have no idea dude i saw the solution on the google
if its mean algebraic sum and the
Where is this problem coming from
its from a book
Length? These are lines, which are infinitely long
a st line is such that the algebric sum of the lengths of the perpendicular drawn on it from any number of fixed points is zero show that the line alwyas pass through a fix point
This is a garbage question
ok but how to solve that
Passes through a fixed point? What does that even mean?
LOL
wtf does algebraic sum of the lengths of the perpendiculars mean
Perpendiculars are usually infinitely long lines with infinite length
nah
they mean
that
a point form which a perpendicular line is drawn
to a line
Fix points p_1, …, p_n in space. Let L be a line. Suppose L has the property that the perpendicular line segments drawn from each p_i to L have total sum equal to 0. Show that L passes through all of p_1, …, p_n.
Is this what they meant?
kinda
yes
Well that’s easy: lengths are always nonnegative. so if the sum of the lengths is 0, then each of the lengths are 0. Thus each p_i must have distance 0 to the line, so L passes through each p_i
makes sence
Garbagely worded question
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I just want to know if my answer is correct
that line is sloping down, so you'd expect the slope to be negative, not positive
So -4/-5
yeah
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it would not
y0shi
cant cancel things like that
anytime there is an addition/subtraction sign u cant cancel like that unless it's a factor
i cancelled it out and got the right Wnser
oh
is that the difference between the work?
not really sure what im looking at tbh
just the cancelling part
Like in the recent example I sent you I was able to cancel it and I got the right answer but from the example I sent before this I wasn’t able to cancel it
I don’t understand the difference
wrong method, right answer
oh
damn
it's right but for the wrong reason
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can anyone help me with this?
At point Q angle is -30°
So sin(-30°) = -1/2
Cos(-30°) = cos(30°) = √3/2
Tan(-30°) = sin(-30°)/cos(-30°) = -1/√3
thank you so so much 💕
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👍 understandable i didn't know that it's homework
Sorry
that helped me with the other questions, it linked to one another but with different numbers :)
(i learn by getting the answer and working backwards w it lol
Not just if it’s homework, in general you shouldn’t be answering people’s questions for them, lead them to the answer so they can do it themselves
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do you have work to post
well v_n = 20 / 2^n cuz velocity decreases in half after every bounce
time for bounce cycle (up and down) is gonna be 2t = v_n / g
g is the acceleration due to the gravity
so t = (20/2^n)/(10)
then t = 2/2^n
then 2t is 4/2^n
then total time for all bounces would be like
that would be like T = 2 + 4/2 + 4/4 + 4/8 ...
same as 2 + 2(1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + ...)
parentheses is 2 so total would be
T = 2 + 2*2
T = 2+4 = 6 seconds
now for the equation part
we could use the relationship for n bounces
v_n could also be represented as v_n -1 / 2
then turn it into v_n = v_0 (1/2)^n
which is 20(1/2)^n
then v_n is also 20 * 2^-n
but 2^-n is also 6 - t_n / 4
so v_n = 20 * (6- t_n) / 4
5(6-t_n)
30 - 5t_n
v_n = 15 - 2.5t_n
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why the P ⇒ Q (P implies Q) can be written as "P only if Q." whats the meaning of "only if ". What is the key point of difference between the "P only if Q." and "P if Q."?that is more likely a question of language to use,but that is my question.
I think that this article explains it quite well
https://www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/lsat/lsat-lessons/logic-toolbox-new/a/logic-toolbox--if-and-only-if
"I wear a hat only if it's sunny" implies "if it's not sunny, I don't wear a hat" which is equivalent to "if I wear a hat, then it's sunny"
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I'm unsure how to approach this question, the double modulus makes it seem as if casework would be really tedious. Any adivicee would be greatly appreciated
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So this being a polygon you could look for the vertices
For example, one of the cases would be x>2 and y>2
like just trying cases in the first quadrant assuming its just a reflection for the others?
It will be because you consider absolute value of x and y
As such the inequality doesnt vary whatdver sign you put on x and y
Also assuming you get good symmetries is kinda dangerous in general imo
Ahh yes true.
Real
yea i was thinking it was a bit of a shot in the dark
oops
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Wym
what’s the fun in that
yea this is a non-calculator exam
Ok so what i think works well is writing y as f(x)
First of all we only look at the edge so the inequality becomes an equality
And say we only look at the positive y part
Then you get
Hold on ive made a mistake
Notice the function isnt perfectly defined as sometimes two outputs are possible
hmm
$x-2+y-2\leq4 \$
$y\leq8+x \$?
oops that didn’t put line breaks in
noah
Because ill be looking for what y is possible given x
oh that’s true
You need to keep track of every hypothesis youve used tho
Because when concluding youll need to make sure you studied every case
So again
could it be more useful to consider a simpler graph and transformation
so as not to need casework
Unless youve seen how to get an area by integration (which i have not) we will be looking at the edge to try and identify known polygons
The edge is almost always (here it is the case) the points for which this inequality is an equality
If you find one sure, but if we try and answer this question im not sure how that will help us specifically
This already gives us quite some info
But we can simplify further
We see the inequality doesnt vary whatever the sign of x and y is
So we can study the case x>=0 y>=0 and the rest will be symmetric
yea that’s true
so if we make it an equality and just see what happens
and then perhaps change some parts that don’t fit exactly
Making it an equality is not random, it is specifically because it mathematically gives us the edge of that polygon
One thing i cant stress enough
We have to be precise
You cant add or leave out any area
So notice how what we ve only simplified one thing because there is a symmetry and the other is only looking at the edge
Which still allows us to identify the entire shape
So
We now have
yea that’s true
Please show me how you get there
Exactly
So we have to distinguish cases
Now we are making for
When its true for both x and y, only for x, only for y, for neither of them
So
We could write |x-2| as say a
Then lets see what values y can take based on a
Without any hypothesis besides x and y positive
|y-2|<=4-a
so are the different cases being y<2 y>2
You should rather do it based on a
You can see that y-2 cannot be lower than -2
Because y>=0
as we are only looking in the positive for both x and y?
okay so if its -2 then a<=6
Youll see that right now we dont care about the exact expression of a
What is -2
What i meant is
Express y based on a
Imagine you know the value of a
Then what values can y take
If a<2
Then 4-a >2
anywhere from 6 to -2?
We only look at y>=0 and y satisfies the equality above
sorry im a bit lost where did this come from
No problem lets backtrack a bit
So the idea would be
Given x let s express y
So we are trying, for a given x, to give all of the values y could take, and only values y can take
yep
given x is positive right?
|y-2| = 4-|x-2|
yep
We write |x-2| as a
|y-2| = 4 - a
hmm so do we want to say what the max and min values of a would be in this situation?
well if x is 0
a is 2
so |y-2| = 2
as y is positive it must be 4
if a is 4, meaning x is 6. then y is 2
still not too sure how i should expand from this like i could just start picking numbers but im not too sure which ones i would pick
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$\left|6-5x\right|>x^2$
DapperJaguar197
Can someone help me with this inequality?
Two cases.
If $6-5x \ge 0$, then you have $6-5x > x^2$, which you can solve by factoring and checking when the factors have the same sign (remember $xy > 0 \Leftrightarrow x,y > 0 \text{ OR } x,y < 0.$).
Then the other case is when $6-5x < 0$ and you have $5x - 6 > x^2$, solved in the same way.
If $6-5x \ge 0$, then $|6-5x| = 6-5x$. \
If $6-5x < 0$, then $|6-5x| = -(6-5x) = 5x-6$.
Azyrashacorki
That's the definition of the absolute value.
$$I got (x+6)(x-1)<0. I'm not sure what to do next.$$
DapperJaguar197
$xy < 0$ if, and only if, $x > 0, y<0$ or if $x < 0, y > 0$, i.e. the signs of the factors $x$ and $y$ differ.
Azyrashacorki
You can apply this to your inequality,.
Idk how 😢
You need to consider (x+6) < 0, (x-1) > 0 and then (x+6) > 0, (x-1)<0.
I have no idea on how to do that. Is there like a method layout I can follow?
Surely you can solve x+6 < 0 and x-1 > 0?
I can but Idk how to apply this to the main inequality. x<-6 and x>1
That means that is x<-6 and x>1, the inequality holds. Does that correspond to any interval?
Not sure. I would guess no
Indeed. No x's satisfy both of those.
There was another possibility here. x+6 > 0 and x-1 < 0
Can you see if this corresponds to any interval?
-6<x<1
Good!
So that's one part of the solution.
And since $6-5x \ge 0$ means that $x \le \frac{6}{5}$, we don't have to restrict this interval. (Remember this was the initial assumption we made to simplify the absolute value).
Azyrashacorki
Now you need to do the same thing but for $6-5x < 0$.
Azyrashacorki
As per this.
I get x>6/5
Is there meant to be a case where I consider xy<0?
This will be useful. Now you should do the same thing we did but with 5x - 6 > x^2.
I get (x-3)(x-2)<0
Good. Now you need to check when the factors have different signs like the last time.
So x-3 > 0 and x-2 < 0.
See if that gives an interval.
And then x - 3 < 0 and x -2 > 0
x>3 and x<2 which wouldn't work. And x<3 and x>2 which is just 2<x<3
Ok. So you get the interval 2<x<3.
Do you need to change anything to ensure that x > 6/5?
2>6/5 so I guess no
Would that be the final solution to the inequality then?
Yes.
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quick question about ftc: is this true
like if a smaller number is the upper bound do you just do the negative of the antiderivatives when doing the subtracting part
whoops that is what i meant
it's always just upper bound - lower bound
what do you do when the lower number is the upper bound though
doesn't matter
do you just add a negative to the integral and then flip the bounds
yeah
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does anyone know why the value between the functions is equal to half the area bounded by r=theta (from 0 to pi)
would the parabola be measured from both sides? like in the thing on the right would it be the same on the other side of the y axis
i got x^2/2 from integrating r = theta by itself and im trying to find something that resembles the value of a polar form equation integrated without using r^2/2
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I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking why the area under a polar curve is given by
[\int_a^b \frac12 r(\theta)^2,\dd\theta?]
It's because the formula for a circular arc of angle (\Delta\theta) and radius (r) is (\frac12 r^2,\Delta\theta).
cramERIC–rao_bound
You can get this from the normal area of a circle formula pretty quickly: the area of the whole circle is (\pi r^2) and then if you only want an angle of (\Delta\theta) out of that, the angle of the entire circle is (2\pi), so the proportion of the circle the arc takes up is (\Delta\theta/(2\pi)), and
[\frac{\Delta\theta}{2\pi}(\pi r^2) = \frac12 r^2\Delta\theta,] like you want.
cramERIC–rao_bound
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- A cylinder has radius 10 and height 20. A spiral with constant slope starts at the bottom of
the cylinder, wraps exactly twice around the cylinder, and finishes at the top of the cylinder.
What is the length of the spiral?
(A) √(400π^2 + 400) (B) 2√(400π^2 + 400) (C) 2√(1600π^2 + 25)
(D) √(100π^2 + 100) (E) 2√(400π^2 + 100)
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i got the period and frequency wrong. pls tell me what i did wrong.
I believe that since the period is the length of one complete cycle of the function, the period can be found by identifying the distance between repeating points
Given this what are our given points?
Reading it u get the concept but u just basically mixed a bit of stuff up
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the distance would be 3pi in that case. but the answer the software gave me was 2pi
i am not sure how 2pi was caluclated
Huh that's weird is it possible the software could be wrong or?
idk, i would have to ask my teacher
i really don't get how 2pi was calculated. i'll just ask in office hrs
Okay then srry if I couldn't help much
its ok
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hey is anyone available to help
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How would you find the closed form expression of something like this
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Generating functions are a beauty, and a mess.

what do generating functions have to do with this tho
oh mb i thought u were talking about mgfs 🤦
do i just keep guessing for these type of questions? im not sure how to come up with them
Uhhh shoot generating function are pretty hard to understand, if you just want to use them here’s an example vid that does a problem like yours https://youtu.be/Pp4PWCPzeQs?si=b9U034dFQ1LjWR4X
Here are a couple examples of how to find a generating function when you are supplied with a recursive definition for a sequence.
Basis of them is creating an infinite polynomial based on the sequence and canceling the infinite part using the recurrence relation given
That gives you the generating function which then can be expand using Taylor series, which then you can take the terms from there (absolutely tedious but it works for I think any recurrence)
calculating the first few terms gives us
3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127,
fn - 3f(n-1) - 2f(n-2) = 0
f = 3 + 7x + 15x^2 + 31x^3 + 127x^4 ...
-3xf = 9x + 21x^2 + 45x^3 + 93x^4 ..
+2x^2f = 6x^2 + 14x^3 + 30x^4 ..
= 3 -2x + 64x^4 ....
shit this is kinda aids how many values do i gotta callculate?
Y’know, you could’ve just looked at the numbers and figured out something (which is what I’m fearing your supposed to do)
I gotta keep calculating till I get 0?
😭 oh
how would I do it
*+2x^2 double negative
?
wym
oh shit
coz fn - 3f(n-1) + 2f(n-2) = 0
(Wait what class is this
Damn
Wrong way of solving then
The numbers generated are 3,7,15,31,63,127,keep calculating and you get like 1023,4047
These numbers ring a bell(almost)?
how did you know that at one point those numbers will appear?
8191, 16383
bro how are you coming up with these numbers
By hand/I may have gotten it the hard way already
It’s The one above 💀
3,7,15,31,63,127, 255, 511, 1023, 2047, 4095
damn you were wrong about 4047

but even after calculating sm terms I dont see a pattern 😭

2^i - 1

WHY USE “I” tho???
i have another question though I wasted like 30 mins on it
lol mb meant n
its like 6 am im tripping rn
but help me with this too pls one sec ill attach ss
0 = 1
1 = 0 = 1
2 = 00, 11 = 2
3 = 000, 110, 011 = 3
4 = 0000, 1100, 0011, 0110, 1111 = 5
5 = 00000, 11000, 00011, 00110, 01100, 11110, 01111 = 7
6 = 000000, 111111, 111100, 001111, 011110, 110000, 011000, 001100, 000110, 000011 = 10
7 = 0000000, 1111110, 0111111, 1111000, 0111100, 0011110, 0001111, 1100000, 0110000, 0011000, 0001100, 0000110, 0000011 = 13
I calculated like uptil H(7) and i cant notice a pattern 😭
AH
Also you should check, I can say def it’s almost
ye i checked for the first 12 terms i calculated its correct

help me with this tho pls 🙏 😭
This one got me going crazy ngl
Man its supposed to be one forum one question😭
My best guess is it’s more recurrences
allow me
🙏
so we have
1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 13, ...
wait isnt this fib seq but shifted by 1?
eh acc idk
So, basically, you wanna take the terms from the sequence before, and add a 0 to the front/back
Same thing with 1s, but be careful, needs to stay even
Dunno how to account for edge cases, also it’s rly late for me cuz I didn’t realize I’m gonna be typing this long 😐
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brah im an idiot i literally calculated the values wrong im p sure its straight up a regulae fib seq
🤦♂️
Yea sorry for typing when this is closed just wanted to add an extra caveat
Make sure to shift it so it gives 3 when n=0 for the first problem.
Currently it’s n=2 that gives 3.

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I have problem understanding the solution of (V), how did they transform A(k) into a polynomial of (1-k)?
A(k) is the area shaded in the graph*
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wait its under my name now tho
just look at the math help channel
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Correct
is it? I don't think those are equal
In these situations, always make coefficient of x^2 1
Then apply formula
It makes sure you are not making an error
I multiply by 1/2 to do that right
Yup
And then its 1/sqrt(2) because its a^2 in the formula, no?
you multiply what by 1/2
you can't just decide to multiply things by 1/2 for fun
Multiply and divide
The denominator
1/(2x^2 + 1)
1/(x^2 + 1/2)
So a = 1/sqrt(2)
those are not the same fraction
Ah yeah sry the 1/2 is outside the integral
oh well now we are getting somewhere
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Is there a handy formula like *integration of 1/a^2+x^2 is (1/a)arctan(x/a)+c for arcsin questions like this?
I know 1/sqrt(1-x^2) = arcsin(x) but something with a's would be nice hehe
substituting x in terms of sin/cos theta so that u remove the root term in denominator and , replacing dx through the relation of x in sin/cos theta terms
Wait, tan?
Do the same thing I told you
my bad
npnp haha
Remove the coefficient of x^2
You will have to u substitute otherwise
Oh god
Not fun
Ok
Yeah no 😂
Haha
So multiplying the denominator by sqrt(1/4) ?
1/sqrt(1-4x^2)
(1/sqrt(1/4)) 1/sqrt(1/4-x^2)
don't do this, you are complicating ur working
your main goal is removing the root
and the function u have inside the root is 1-4x^2
since in these types we use the knowledge of trigonometric identities
what comes to your mind when u see this
probably 1 - sin^2 theta or 1-cos^2 theta
and since u know that they equal to cos^theta and sin^2 theta , the root term will get removed as well
so just try to substitute 4x^2 part
Which root sry?
the root in denominator
do you know the derivation behind this formula?
No
yea u need that knowledge
You could create it yourself, you just need to figure out how to solve the integral in general
yeah
its generally recommended to create it yourself rather than remembering formulas like these for integration
But why do we want to get rid of the square root in the denominator
i can show u how this formula comes
then u will understand
give me a min
No rush
We want to get rid of the sqrt because there is no adequate direct substitution
We do this by using one of the 3 main trig sub formulas we can derive via the identity $\sin^{2}{(x)} + \cos^{2}{x} = 1$
let me explain
u got the reason cat collective gave right
we don't have a direct formula for integration of sqr root
so we want to get rid of it
we have 3 basic trigonometric identities
sin^2 x + cos^ x = 1
1 + tan^2 x = sec^2 x
1 + cot^2 x = cosec^2 x
Ahh
The Cat Collective
I remember those I think
usually in these types of integration of questions
inside the sqr root, we usually get a similar looking function to these but in normal variable terms
to tackle these problems, we simply assume them to be equal to a trignometric function in theta terms
$$
b^{2}x^{2} + a^{2}
\
\
a^{2} - b^{2}x^{2}
\
\
b^{2}x^{2} - a^{2}
$$
What
A
Goddangit
The Cat Collective
since we have x = sin theta -----1
differentiating it
we get dx = cos theta dtheta------2
now if u substitute both of these
OH CMON
look what we get
inside the root , we are getting cos^2 theta, so that removes the root , and
finally we get (cos theta / cos theta ) dtheta
which is just dtheta
and you know integration of dtheta
which will be theta + C
And to go back from theta to x you can either draw a right triangle and find the sides or you can use inverse trig functions
now theta can be found using 1
x = sin theta
arcsin(x) = theta
hence ur answer is arcsin(x) + C
This is very confusing, I need to reread everything like 10 times, bare with me
take your time
Trig sub is pretty weird the first time you try it
very true
it takes a lot of time to get hang of it lol
Yea we still struggle with back substituting at the end a lot
and i would recommend not to remember formulas for these types of trig subs
because a simple change gives a different answer
so formulas never work
It just keeps getting worse and worse 
One except we'd say it to memorize the integrals of arcsec(x), arctan(x) and arcsin(x)
yes
Deriving these every time is a mild pain in the butt imo
When you say you 'assume it to be sin theta' you mean you just sub it in? Or does assuming mean a different thing
I have never really worked with theta before, like I know what it is but never used it like this...
basically
trigo functions give us ratios
and all trigo functions have a range
so when i say assume
i am basically saying that x is equal to some angle theta , whose sin theta is equal to x
eg.
we have 1/2
i can say that 1/2 = sin theta for some value of theta
and we know that sin pi/6 = 1/2
so we are using this idea to our help
Normally in maths, assume means that you're substituting something in or having implied bounds or such
Actuslly my example as kinda crap, so deleted it
Do you have to use theta? Could you just as easily use 'a' or something? Sry if this is a dumb question
yes yes
we generally use theta for angles that why i said theta
Yes you have to use theta? Or yes you can use a? Or yes its a dumb question 😂
you can use anything u want lol
Ah cool
sin a or sin b anything lol
Okok, I was overthinking that it was a whole new thing
Thats nice
sry im still reading through this its taking a while hahaha
sure take your time
But I dont see why we need to remove the square root still sry
i mean you could try to do it without trig
using general substitution and etc , and you would realise that there is no such exact way to tackle the problem
we are always stuck somehow because of the square root
using trigo substitution helps us remove the square root function making it easier to solve
its just an algebraic method to solve it
Mb after I will do it without trig but one thing at a time haha
Whats the first step to solve this
substituting x in such a way that you have a function that looks similar to these identities
so here
we have 1-4x^2 , we want it to look like 1-sin^2 a
ie you can say that 4x^2 = sin^2 a
which means 2x = sin a
now follow the steps like the previous one and you should get to the answer
Damn ok it makes sense when you explain it but idk how I will think of this in an exam
Like I wouldnt even notice I could change 4x^2 = sin^2(a) into 2x=sin(a) lol
yeah
you are doing it for the first time
its hard
just practice some solved problems from some book, first try solving it on your own , then look at the solved solution
you would get hang of it then
yes
correct
1/sqrt(1-4x^2)
1/sqrt(1-4(sin(a)/2)^2)
1/sqrt(1-4(sin^2(a)/4))
1/sqrt(1-sin^2(a))
Ummm
use sin^2 (a) + cos^2 (a) = 1
correct, but remember you have dx, you gotta change that as well
dx/cos(a)
you can't integrate this
you need dx in terms of a
remember what you assumed x to be
All the formulas that have a have a sin or cos in them which is annoying for integration, no?
yea
trigo sub is what makes integration harder
1/cos(arcsin(2x))
Differentiate this?
logically answer, which one looks easier
This but I dont see why were differentating it?
just differentiate and tell me what u get
you are integrating
Oh lol
lol
the integration?
nope
you have 2x =sin(a)
differentiate it with respect to x
so on lhs, you have 2
rhs = 0?
on rhs you have
dsin(a)/dx
multiply and divide by da
1*
so u get (dsin(a)/da)(da/dx)
wait no it is 0
nope
💀
sin(a) isn't a constant with respect to x
nope its not 0
its actually which is cos(a) da/ dx = 2
so cos(a) da = 2 dx
this is what u get
Why da? It was with respect to x?
yes it was with respect to x
but u can differentiate sin(a) with respect to dx
so we multiply and divide it with da
and you can say , its kind of chain rule,
sin(a) differentiation would be cos(a) , but we have 'a' inside, whose differentiation would be da/dx
so 2 = cos(a) da/dx
2dx = cos(a) da
