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lucid zenith
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This gives you sinx+cosx=0

valid hinge
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Ohh wait

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Yeah

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True

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Sinx+cosx=0

lucid zenith
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This implies that tanx=-1

valid hinge
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Abosulety

lucid zenith
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Which doesn’t have any solutions

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In our interval

valid hinge
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How you checked?

lucid zenith
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tanx=-1 at x=-pi/4, 3pi/4…

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I just checked that 3pi/4>2

valid hinge
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0 to 2π

lucid zenith
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Oh yeah okay then you will have solutions

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Be careful when you solve the systems though

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$\sin x\ge 0\land \cos x=0 \lor\sin x<0\land \tan x=-1$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

valid hinge
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sinx<0 and tanx=-1 what do you mean be careful here?

lucid zenith
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tanx=-1 will have two solutions in [0, 2pi], one where sinx>0 and one where sinx<0

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You take only the solution with sinx<0

marsh citrusBOT
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valid hinge
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So in previous case cosx is 0 at π/2,3π/2

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We will discard 3π/2

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@lucid zenith

late geode
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why discard 3pi/2

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stone dirge
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What rule would I use for this one?

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late geode
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first step is always to identify common factors and factor those out

stone dirge
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Yeah I know how to do it

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but I used the rules gcf and difference of squares

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is there a rule I forgot to name?

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Sorry, I didn't make that clear

latent coral
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oh if you're just naming rules, yeah you factored out the gcf and factored a difference of squares

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i don't see anything else

late geode
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if those are directly linked to your steps then that's it

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were there any steps you performed with no justification?

marsh flower
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Yeah i suppose it’s A

stone dirge
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Yeah, I was just wonering if there was a rule I forgot to name, I am just trying to practice knowing the rules, thanks guys

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bitter terrace
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how am I to find D?

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bitter terrace
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i know the distance BD is 2sqrt26

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distance between AD and CD is 2sqrt13

mild perch
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Draw a picture

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It should help

bitter terrace
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algebraically?

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i know roughly where the point is

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its below all of them

mild perch
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But do you see how you can get the point using the vectors involved?

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Let's do a simpler version of a problem

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If (0,0), (1,0), (0,1) make a right triangle

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What point can we add to make it a square

bitter terrace
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(1,1)

mild perch
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What about (1,0), (2,0), (1,1)

mild perch
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Right

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Do you see a pattern

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Think of the sides that make the right angle as vectors

bitter terrace
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uhhhhh

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then should I wait

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can I

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say vector AB = DC, BC = AD, put that in xi + yj thing and then do simultaneous or is that clunky

mild perch
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Do you understand how to solve the problem if the right angle was at the origin?

bitter terrace
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AC = AO + OC?

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idk man

mild perch
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Like if we have points (0,0), (-1,1) and (1,1)

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Can you solve this

bitter terrace
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im using common knowledge for this though

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its obvious its at (0,2)

mild perch
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This is why I said a drawing might be helpful to understand what is happening

bitter terrace
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im not saying I dont know low to do what youre saying, but can you saying without math lingo cause im terminologically dumb

mild perch
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What part

bitter terrace
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sorry just gimme a sec

mild perch
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Right

bitter terrace
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cause theyre equal? or because you can add vectors to give your result?

mild perch
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How do you get the top point using the bottom vectors you drew

bitter terrace
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equal magnitude, weird direction idk

mild perch
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You are just adding them

bitter terrace
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ah true

mild perch
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The displacement of the opposite point is the sum of the displacement of the two adjacent points from the point

bitter terrace
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like this?

mild perch
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The stuff with the same color are the same vector

bitter terrace
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sorry gimme a sec i’m trying to relate this back to the q

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so I have this

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im stuck on two parts here now

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if i were to find it, I would be finding BD

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how would I separate that in order to find D? do I separate into BO + OD = BD?

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and with the 2sqrt13, how would I find the exact placement if all i have is that

mild perch
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The kind of goofy way if you can't figure out how to use the vectors here

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Would be to shift the problem to the origin and shift it back

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You have AB and BC as vectors right

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Use those to get from B to D

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Same thing we practiced

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Here point be takes the role of the origin in our simpler case

bitter terrace
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uhh is this better, considering I found the column vector thing from part a

bitter terrace
mild perch
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Should give you the same answer

mild perch
bitter terrace
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is this what you were thinking or am I doing a different way again

mild perch
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This is it yeah

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But the way you did is good too

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This was just using the most geometrically intuitive way for me

bitter terrace
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fair

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thanks a lot man i appreciate the help

mild perch
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You're welcome

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hybrid prism
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I am not able to under stand the solution of this question

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Kindly help

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hybrid prism
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Mo

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No

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vocal leaf
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??

hybrid prism
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Somebody help me

vocal leaf
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how can i help

hybrid prism
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I am not able to understand the solution

vocal leaf
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what is your gender

hybrid prism
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What??

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sinful thistle
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how does that matter lol

hybrid prism
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Yheaa

vocal leaf
hybrid prism
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I am just simple male ... And please solve my problem

sinful thistle
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okay

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ykw

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i'll tell u

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simply substitute sin x = t

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then use the quadratic formula

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@hybrid prism

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sinful thistle
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it is the correct approach.

hybrid prism
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Please show me the solution

sinful thistle
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what have you tried

hybrid prism
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I am not able to understand the solution

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I have tried everything

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I have asked this same question in another server.. they are stuck for 3 hours..

cloud lark
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alr leme crack at it

sinful thistle
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okay first of all

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@hybrid prism show me "everything" that you have tried

cloud lark
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alr just to clarify, when they say the equation has roots (0, 180), they mean x = 0 and x = 180 are the roots?

hybrid prism
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Ok

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Solved using application of derivatives

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But it is long method

hybrid prism
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@sinful thistle have tried it

cloud lark
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i might get it hang on

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this one is some trouble

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aw man

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i will admit

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this one is pretty mind boggling

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i couldnt get it

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@hybrid prism Has your question been resolved?

hybrid prism
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Anyone able to understand solution

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I am giving up

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@hybrid prism Has your question been resolved?

valid hinge
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# hybrid prism Anyone able to understand solution

with the substitution t = sin x its just straightforward, but lets start at the beginning.

(sin x)^2-k sin x -3 = 0, and we are asked for which k there are two dinstinct real roots in [0,pi].

Do you understand the question?

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spark siren
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ist a quadratic equation in sin x , lets write t instead of sin x, t = sin x., so we get
t^2-kt-3=0
OK?

hybrid prism
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Yes

spark siren
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now solve for t.

hybrid prism
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Can you explain me your solution by writing somewhere

spark siren
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!nosols

marsh citrusBOT
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

hybrid prism
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What

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It's a illustration not homeworks

spark siren
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its a simple quadratic equation. you can do this by yourself.

hybrid prism
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I am stuck .

hybrid prism
spark siren
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write down the soultion for the quadratic equation t^2-kt-3 = 0 and i will do the next step with you.

spark siren
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well, waited long enough.

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An arithmetic sequence with 2024 terms has first term 27/2and common difference -5/4 How
many of the 2024 terms are integers?
(A) 3 (B) 506 (C) 507 (D) 505 (E) 1011

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robust silo
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rlly?

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is the answer D?

unreal geode
robust silo
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4n+3=2024
n=505.25
and i just rounded to 505

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i dont think i did it right

unreal geode
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I guess that is a way too but I found it using number of terms formula:
Let's say we have another sequence that goes like: [3, 7, 10, ..., 2023] I have to find number of terms using: (an-a1)/r + 1 => (2023-3)/4 + 1 so 506

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ooo ok

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thanks

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wind mauve
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How do I get started on this question?

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  1. To find the limit lim∞ P(Sn ≤ 7n), we need to consider the total waiting time Sn during n mornings. Since the waiting time for bus 372 is exponential with a mean of 10 minutes and for bus 75 is exponential with a mean of 20 minutes, the waiting times can be modeled as exponential random variables.

Let X be the waiting time for bus 372 and Y be the waiting time for bus 75. Then, the total waiting time Sn can be represented as Sn = X1 + X2 + ... + Xn, where Xi is the waiting time on the ith morning.

The sum of exponential random variables follows a gamma distribution. Therefore, Sn follows a gamma distribution with parameters n and λ, where λ is the rate parameter.

Since the sum of exponential random variables is gamma-distributed, we can calculate the probability P(Sn ≤ 7n) using the cumulative distribution function (CDF) of the gamma distribution.

  1. To find the limit limn→∞ P(Tn ≥ 0.6n), we need to consider the number of times the bus 372 is taken during n mornings, denoted by Tn.

Given that Tn follows a binomial distribution with parameters n and p, where p is the probability of taking bus 372, we can calculate P(Tn ≥ 0.6n) using the cumulative distribution function (CDF) of the binomial distribution.

By using the given hint and the properties of exponential and binomial distributions, we can compute the required probabilities and limits based on the provided information.

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This took me 5 min so please read it

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hello! I'm working on a problem and I cannot for the life of me how to take this integral. It starts with
$$\int\limits^{\infty}_{0} \mathrm{e}^{-st} \left(\sin\left(at\right) - at \cos\left(at\right)\right) , \mathrm{d}t$$
which becomes
$$-\frac{\mathrm{e}^{-st} \left(\left(\left(a^{2} s^{2} + a^{4}\right) t + s^{3} + 3a^{2} s\right) \sin\left(at\right) + \left(\left(-as^{3} - a^{3} s\right) t + 2a^{3}\right) \cos\left(at\right)\right)}{\left(s^{2} + a^{2}\right)^{2}} + C$$
how do I then use the bounds to find the definite part?

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PolloTundra | Aidan B

hazy lion
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can you just plug in the values?

dawn sage
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yes, how do I plug in the infinity though? it has been a while haha

hazy lion
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you argue that $e^{-s \infty}$ is exponentially small

elfin berryBOT
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jan Niku

hazy lion
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and that no other term is able to grow fast enough at this limit to counteract the decay

dawn sage
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makes sense, thank you!

hazy lion
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since its all polynomial and oscillating

dawn sage
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so you just defer to the 0 term bc it's infinitely small, gotcha thank you!

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naive stump
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Hi all,

For context, the highschool exam isn't heavy in linear algebra, its kinda stuck to just 2d and 3d vectors, mostly dealing with projectile, volumes and motion

naive stump
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im aware of linear independence as a concept but i cannot use it in an exam that im prepping for

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is there another way to solve this question without referring to independence

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the textbook is a cambridge print but doesnt have worked solutions unfortuantely

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that works, thx

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sinful egret
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is this solutions

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OK?

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civic moss
sinful egret
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if its mean algebraic sum and the

civic moss
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Where is this problem coming from

sinful egret
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lenght

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it shouldn't be zero

sinful egret
civic moss
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Length? These are lines, which are infinitely long

sinful egret
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a st line is such that the algebric sum of the lengths of the perpendicular drawn on it from any number of fixed points is zero show that the line alwyas pass through a fix point

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sinful egret
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this was the

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orignal ques

sinful egret
civic moss
sinful egret
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bro if my pea sized mind knew that i wouldn't ask it here

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🤣

civic moss
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LOL

civic moss
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Perpendiculars are usually infinitely long lines with infinite length

sinful egret
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nah

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they mean

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that

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a point form which a perpendicular line is drawn

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to a line

civic moss
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Any number of fixed points? wtf does that means

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Horrible wording

sinful egret
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something like this

civic moss
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Fix points p_1, …, p_n in space. Let L be a line. Suppose L has the property that the perpendicular line segments drawn from each p_i to L have total sum equal to 0. Show that L passes through all of p_1, …, p_n.

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Is this what they meant?

civic moss
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Well that’s easy: lengths are always nonnegative. so if the sum of the lengths is 0, then each of the lengths are 0. Thus each p_i must have distance 0 to the line, so L passes through each p_i

sinful egret
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makes sence

civic moss
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Garbagely worded question

sinful egret
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lmao

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ok thanks man

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languid obsidian
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I just want to know if my answer is correct

latent coral
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that line is sloping down, so you'd expect the slope to be negative, not positive

languid obsidian
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So -4/-5

latent coral
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-4/-5 is the same as 4/5

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you didn't change the answer by making both negative

languid obsidian
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😭 right so -4/5

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yeah

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Okay thank you Neil🫡

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little bough
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would this be allowed to do?

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cancelling out -3x+5y

dry prawn
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it would not

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shadow warren
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cant cancel things like that

little bough
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huh

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why

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cause it’s negative?

cunning chasm
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(2+4)/2

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is equal to 3

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not 4

little bough
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i mean yeah

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but for this

cunning chasm
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anytime there is an addition/subtraction sign u cant cancel like that unless it's a factor

little bough
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i cancelled it out and got the right Wnser

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oh

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is that the difference between the work?

cunning chasm
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not really sure what im looking at tbh

little bough
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just the cancelling part

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Like in the recent example I sent you I was able to cancel it and I got the right answer but from the example I sent before this I wasn’t able to cancel it

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I don’t understand the difference

cunning chasm
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wrong method, right answer

little bough
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oh

cunning chasm
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prob a coincidence

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it's like doing 16/64 and cancelling the 6's

little bough
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damn

cunning chasm
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it's right but for the wrong reason

little bough
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okok

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still temple
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can anyone help me with this?

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still temple
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thank you so so much 💕

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still temple
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👍 understandable i didn't know that it's homework

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Sorry

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that helped me with the other questions, it linked to one another but with different numbers :)

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(i learn by getting the answer and working backwards w it lol

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steady mural
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could someone

marsh citrusBOT
steady mural
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help with this

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I tried multiple ways to get this equation

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didnt get it once

rustic zinc
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do you have work to post

steady mural
rustic zinc
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well v_n = 20 / 2^n cuz velocity decreases in half after every bounce

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time for bounce cycle (up and down) is gonna be 2t = v_n / g

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g is the acceleration due to the gravity

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so t = (20/2^n)/(10)

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then t = 2/2^n

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then 2t is 4/2^n

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then total time for all bounces would be like

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that would be like T = 2 + 4/2 + 4/4 + 4/8 ...

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same as 2 + 2(1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + ...)

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parentheses is 2 so total would be

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T = 2 + 2*2

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T = 2+4 = 6 seconds

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now for the equation part

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we could use the relationship for n bounces

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v_n could also be represented as v_n -1 / 2

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then turn it into v_n = v_0 (1/2)^n

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which is 20(1/2)^n

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then v_n is also 20 * 2^-n

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but 2^-n is also 6 - t_n / 4

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5(6-t_n)

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30 - 5t_n

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why the P ⇒ Q (P implies Q) can be written as "P only if Q." whats the meaning of "only if ". What is the key point of difference between the "P only if Q." and "P if Q."?that is more likely a question of language to use,but that is my question.

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If and only if means biimplication

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Try taking cases

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Suitable cases

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And plot the respective lines for those cases

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So this being a polygon you could look for the vertices

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For example, one of the cases would be x>2 and y>2

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I'm not sure if that'll work here

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As such the inequality doesnt vary whatdver sign you put on x and y

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Also assuming you get good symmetries is kinda dangerous in general imo

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oops

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But here its tfrue

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what’s the fun in that

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Ye possible but depending on what exam you take

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yea this is a non-calculator exam

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First of all we only look at the edge so the inequality becomes an equality

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Hold on ive made a mistake

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oops that didn’t put line breaks in

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Just write y as f(x)

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Personnally it helps me

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Because ill be looking for what y is possible given x

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oh that’s true

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Because when concluding youll need to make sure you studied every case

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could it be more useful to consider a simpler graph and transformation

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so as not to need casework

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Unless youve seen how to get an area by integration (which i have not) we will be looking at the edge to try and identify known polygons

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The edge is almost always (here it is the case) the points for which this inequality is an equality

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yea that’s true

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so if we make it an equality and just see what happens

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and then perhaps change some parts that don’t fit exactly

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Making it an equality is not random, it is specifically because it mathematically gives us the edge of that polygon

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so if x and y are both positive

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y=-x+8

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Are you sure

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yea that’s true

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?

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well if we take the positive of both modulus

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x-2+y-2=4

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Why are we allowed to do that

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oh are we assuming x is greater than 2

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Exactly

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|y-2|<=4-a

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Yes

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so are the different cases being y<2 y>2

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You should rather do it based on a

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Yes

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okay so if its -2 then a<=6

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y-2

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so when y is 0

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Then 4-a >2

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We only look at y>=0 and y satisfies the equality above

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yep

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|y-2| = 4-|x-2|

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yep

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We write |x-2| as a

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|y-2| = 4 - a

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hmm so do we want to say what the max and min values of a would be in this situation?

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well if x is 0

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so |y-2| = 2

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as y is positive it must be 4

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if a is 4, meaning x is 6. then y is 2

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still not too sure how i should expand from this like i could just start picking numbers but im not too sure which ones i would pick

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$\left|6-5x\right|>x^2$

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DapperJaguar197

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Can someone help me with this inequality?

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Two cases.
If $6-5x \ge 0$, then you have $6-5x > x^2$, which you can solve by factoring and checking when the factors have the same sign (remember $xy > 0 \Leftrightarrow x,y > 0 \text{ OR } x,y < 0.$).

Then the other case is when $6-5x < 0$ and you have $5x - 6 > x^2$, solved in the same way.

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Azyrashacorki

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DapperJaguar197

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If $6-5x \ge 0$, then $|6-5x| = 6-5x$. \
If $6-5x < 0$, then $|6-5x| = -(6-5x) = 5x-6$.

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Azyrashacorki

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That's the definition of the absolute value.

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$$I got (x+6)(x-1)<0. I'm not sure what to do next.$$

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DapperJaguar197

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$xy < 0$ if, and only if, $x > 0, y<0$ or if $x < 0, y > 0$, i.e. the signs of the factors $x$ and $y$ differ.

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Azyrashacorki

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You can apply this to your inequality,.

uncut beacon
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You need to consider (x+6) < 0, (x-1) > 0 and then (x+6) > 0, (x-1)<0.

uncut beacon
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Surely you can solve x+6 < 0 and x-1 > 0?

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I can but Idk how to apply this to the main inequality. x<-6 and x>1

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uncut beacon
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Not sure. I would guess no

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Indeed. No x's satisfy both of those.

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Can you see if this corresponds to any interval?

uncut beacon
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-6<x<1

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Good!

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And since $6-5x \ge 0$ means that $x \le \frac{6}{5}$, we don't have to restrict this interval. (Remember this was the initial assumption we made to simplify the absolute value).

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Azyrashacorki

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Now you need to do the same thing but for $6-5x < 0$.

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Azyrashacorki

uncut beacon
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I get x>6/5

uncut beacon
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I get (x-3)(x-2)<0

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Good. Now you need to check when the factors have different signs like the last time.

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So x-3 > 0 and x-2 < 0.

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See if that gives an interval.

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And then x - 3 < 0 and x -2 > 0

uncut beacon
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x>3 and x<2 which wouldn't work. And x<3 and x>2 which is just 2<x<3

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Ok. So you get the interval 2<x<3.

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Do you need to change anything to ensure that x > 6/5?

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2>6/5 so I guess no

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You're right

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So you have both intervals then

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(-6,1) and (2,3)

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Would that be the final solution to the inequality then?

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Yes.

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Great. Thanks a lot for your help

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quick question about ftc: is this true

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like if a smaller number is the upper bound do you just do the negative of the antiderivatives when doing the subtracting part

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it should be F(a) - F(b)

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whoops that is what i meant

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it's always just upper bound - lower bound

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what do you do when the lower number is the upper bound though

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doesn't matter

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do you just add a negative to the integral and then flip the bounds

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yeah

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does anyone know why the value between the functions is equal to half the area bounded by r=theta (from 0 to pi)

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would the parabola be measured from both sides? like in the thing on the right would it be the same on the other side of the y axis

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cramERIC–rao_bound

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You can get this from the normal area of a circle formula pretty quickly: the area of the whole circle is (\pi r^2) and then if you only want an angle of (\Delta\theta) out of that, the angle of the entire circle is (2\pi), so the proportion of the circle the arc takes up is (\Delta\theta/(2\pi)), and
[\frac{\Delta\theta}{2\pi}(\pi r^2) = \frac12 r^2\Delta\theta,] like you want.

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cramERIC–rao_bound

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@fading furnace does that answer your question?

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  1. A cylinder has radius 10 and height 20. A spiral with constant slope starts at the bottom of
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    What is the length of the spiral?
    (A) √(400π^2 + 400) (B) 2√(400π^2 + 400) (C) 2√(1600π^2 + 25)
    (D) √(100π^2 + 100) (E) 2√(400π^2 + 100)
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What have you tried

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but thanks

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i got the period and frequency wrong. pls tell me what i did wrong.

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Given this what are our given points?

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Reading it u get the concept but u just basically mixed a bit of stuff up

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i am not sure how 2pi was caluclated

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idk, i would have to ask my teacher

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i really don't get how 2pi was calculated. i'll just ask in office hrs

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hey is anyone available to help

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How would you find the closed form expression of something like this

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Generating functions are a beauty, and a mess.

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what do generating functions have to do with this tho

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oh mb i thought u were talking about mgfs 🤦

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do i just keep guessing for these type of questions? im not sure how to come up with them

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Basis of them is creating an infinite polynomial based on the sequence and canceling the infinite part using the recurrence relation given

wary bluff
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wth thats crazy

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alr lemme try

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That gives you the generating function which then can be expand using Taylor series, which then you can take the terms from there (absolutely tedious but it works for I think any recurrence)

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calculating the first few terms gives us

3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127,

fn - 3f(n-1) - 2f(n-2) = 0

        f = 3 + 7x + 15x^2 + 31x^3 + 127x^4 ...

-3xf = 9x + 21x^2 + 45x^3 + 93x^4 ..
+2x^2
f = 6x^2 + 14x^3 + 30x^4 ..

= 3 -2x + 64x^4 ....

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shit this is kinda aids how many values do i gotta callculate?

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Y’know, you could’ve just looked at the numbers and figured out something (which is what I’m fearing your supposed to do)

wary bluff
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I gotta keep calculating till I get 0?

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wym

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oh shit

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coz fn - 3f(n-1) + 2f(n-2) = 0

nocturne hinge
wary bluff
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computer science

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"Theory of Computation"

nocturne hinge
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Damn

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Wrong way of solving then

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The numbers generated are 3,7,15,31,63,127,keep calculating and you get like 1023,4047

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These numbers ring a bell(almost)?

wary bluff
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nah

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nocturne hinge
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8191, 16383

wary bluff
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gahdamn bro how are you coming up with these numbers

nocturne hinge
wary bluff
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howww

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put me on the method

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🙏

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It’s The one above 💀

wary bluff
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3,7,15,31,63,127, 255, 511, 1023, 2047, 4095

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damn you were wrong about 4047

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but even after calculating sm terms I dont see a pattern 😭

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2^i - 1

nocturne hinge
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Wth

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Oh wait almost

wary bluff
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yuhhh thats it

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lets fucking goooo

nocturne hinge
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WHY USE “I” tho???

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i have another question though I wasted like 30 mins on it

wary bluff
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its like 6 am im tripping rn

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but help me with this too pls one sec ill attach ss

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0 = 1
1 = 0 = 1
2 = 00, 11 = 2
3 = 000, 110, 011 = 3
4 = 0000, 1100, 0011, 0110, 1111 = 5
5 = 00000, 11000, 00011, 00110, 01100, 11110, 01111 = 7
6 = 000000, 111111, 111100, 001111, 011110, 110000, 011000, 001100, 000110, 000011 = 10
7 = 0000000, 1111110, 0111111, 1111000, 0111100, 0011110, 0001111, 1100000, 0110000, 0011000, 0001100, 0000110, 0000011 = 13

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I calculated like uptil H(7) and i cant notice a pattern 😭

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AH

wary bluff
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u alrdy realized gahdamn

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been like 10 secs

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This one got me going crazy ngl

nocturne hinge
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Man its supposed to be one forum one question😭
My best guess is it’s more recurrences

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🙏

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so we have

1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 13, ...

wait isnt this fib seq but shifted by 1?

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eh acc idk

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So, basically, you wanna take the terms from the sequence before, and add a 0 to the front/back
Same thing with 1s, but be careful, needs to stay even
Dunno how to account for edge cases, also it’s rly late for me cuz I didn’t realize I’m gonna be typing this long 😐

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shit alr ill try

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🫡

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brah im an idiot i literally calculated the values wrong im p sure its straight up a regulae fib seq

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🤦‍♂️

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Yea sorry for typing when this is closed just wanted to add an extra caveat

Make sure to shift it so it gives 3 when n=0 for the first problem.

Currently it’s n=2 that gives 3.

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I have problem understanding the solution of (V), how did they transform A(k) into a polynomial of (1-k)?

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@jagged moth

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fickle shell
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integration of 1/a^2+x^2 is (1/a)*arctan(x/a)+c, right?

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Well a is 1/sqrt(2), no?

quaint elm
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is it? I don't think those are equal

teal arch
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In these situations, always make coefficient of x^2 1

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Then apply formula

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It makes sure you are not making an error

fickle shell
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I multiply by 1/2 to do that right

teal arch
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Yup

fickle shell
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And then its 1/sqrt(2) because its a^2 in the formula, no?

quaint elm
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you can't just decide to multiply things by 1/2 for fun

teal arch
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Multiply and divide

fickle shell
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1/(2x^2 + 1)

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1/(x^2 + 1/2)

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So a = 1/sqrt(2)

quaint elm
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those are not the same fraction

fickle shell
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Ah yeah sry the 1/2 is outside the integral

quaint elm
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oh well now we are getting somewhere

fickle shell
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Ah I think I see the issue

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Yep I got it

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Thanks!

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fickle shell
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Is there a handy formula like *integration of 1/a^2+x^2 is (1/a)arctan(x/a)+c for arcsin questions like this?

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I know 1/sqrt(1-x^2) = arcsin(x) but something with a's would be nice hehe

fierce jewel
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substituting x in terms of sin/cos theta so that u remove the root term in denominator and , replacing dx through the relation of x in sin/cos theta terms

fickle shell
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Wait, tan?

teal arch
fierce jewel
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my bad

fickle shell
teal arch
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Remove the coefficient of x^2

fickle shell
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Ugh its really messy 😝

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Is there no handy formula :3

teal arch
fickle shell
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Oh god

teal arch
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Not fun

fickle shell
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Ok

fickle shell
teal arch
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Haha

fickle shell
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So multiplying the denominator by sqrt(1/4) ?

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1/sqrt(1-4x^2)

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(1/sqrt(1/4)) 1/sqrt(1/4-x^2)

fierce jewel
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don't do this, you are complicating ur working

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your main goal is removing the root

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and the function u have inside the root is 1-4x^2
since in these types we use the knowledge of trigonometric identities
what comes to your mind when u see this
probably 1 - sin^2 theta or 1-cos^2 theta
and since u know that they equal to cos^theta and sin^2 theta , the root term will get removed as well

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so just try to substitute 4x^2 part

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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But we want it no?

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for 1/sqrt(1-x^2) = arcsin(x)

fierce jewel
fickle shell
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No

fierce jewel
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yea u need that knowledge

fossil osprey
fierce jewel
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its generally recommended to create it yourself rather than remembering formulas like these for integration

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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then u will understand

fickle shell
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Ok

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Yes please

fierce jewel
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give me a min

fickle shell
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No rush

tame dagger
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We do this by using one of the 3 main trig sub formulas we can derive via the identity $\sin^{2}{(x)} + \cos^{2}{x} = 1$

fierce jewel
fickle shell
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Wait what

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I'm even more confused

fierce jewel
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let me explain

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u got the reason cat collective gave right

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we don't have a direct formula for integration of sqr root

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so we want to get rid of it

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we have 3 basic trigonometric identities

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sin^2 x + cos^ x = 1
1 + tan^2 x = sec^2 x
1 + cot^2 x = cosec^2 x

fickle shell
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Ahh

elfin berryBOT
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The Cat Collective

fickle shell
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I remember those I think

fierce jewel
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usually in these types of integration of questions

fierce jewel
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to tackle these problems, we simply assume them to be equal to a trignometric function in theta terms

fierce jewel
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i assumed x to be sin theta

tame dagger
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$$
b^{2}x^{2} + a^{2}
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a^{2} - b^{2}x^{2}
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b^{2}x^{2} - a^{2}
$$

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What

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A

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Goddangit

elfin berryBOT
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The Cat Collective

fierce jewel
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since we have x = sin theta -----1
differentiating it
we get dx = cos theta dtheta------2

now if u substitute both of these

tame dagger
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OH CMON

fierce jewel
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inside the root , we are getting cos^2 theta, so that removes the root , and
finally we get (cos theta / cos theta ) dtheta

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which is just dtheta

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and you know integration of dtheta

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which will be theta + C

tame dagger
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And to go back from theta to x you can either draw a right triangle and find the sides or you can use inverse trig functions

fierce jewel
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hence ur answer is arcsin(x) + C

fickle shell
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This is very confusing, I need to reread everything like 10 times, bare with me

fierce jewel
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take your time

tame dagger
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Trig sub is pretty weird the first time you try it

fierce jewel
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it takes a lot of time to get hang of it lol

tame dagger
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Yea we still struggle with back substituting at the end a lot

fierce jewel
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and i would recommend not to remember formulas for these types of trig subs

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because a simple change gives a different answer

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so formulas never work

fickle shell
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It just keeps getting worse and worse bleakkekw

tame dagger
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One except we'd say it to memorize the integrals of arcsec(x), arctan(x) and arcsin(x)

tame dagger
fickle shell
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I have never really worked with theta before, like I know what it is but never used it like this...

fierce jewel
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basically

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trigo functions give us ratios

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and all trigo functions have a range

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so when i say assume

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i am basically saying that x is equal to some angle theta , whose sin theta is equal to x

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eg.

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we have 1/2

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i can say that 1/2 = sin theta for some value of theta

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and we know that sin pi/6 = 1/2

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so we are using this idea to our help

tame dagger
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Actuslly my example as kinda crap, so deleted it

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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we generally use theta for angles that why i said theta

fickle shell
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Yes you have to use theta? Or yes you can use a? Or yes its a dumb question 😂

fierce jewel
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you can use anything u want lol

fickle shell
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Ah cool

fierce jewel
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sin a or sin b anything lol

fickle shell
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Okok, I was overthinking that it was a whole new thing

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Thats nice

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sry im still reading through this its taking a while hahaha

fierce jewel
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sure take your time

fickle shell
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Ok...

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I think I maybe get it, possibly

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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i mean you could try to do it without trig
using general substitution and etc , and you would realise that there is no such exact way to tackle the problem
we are always stuck somehow because of the square root
using trigo substitution helps us remove the square root function making it easier to solve

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its just an algebraic method to solve it

fickle shell
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Mb after I will do it without trig but one thing at a time haha

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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so here

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we have 1-4x^2 , we want it to look like 1-sin^2 a

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ie you can say that 4x^2 = sin^2 a
which means 2x = sin a

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now follow the steps like the previous one and you should get to the answer

fickle shell
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Damn ok it makes sense when you explain it but idk how I will think of this in an exam

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Like I wouldnt even notice I could change 4x^2 = sin^2(a) into 2x=sin(a) lol

fierce jewel
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yeah

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you are doing it for the first time

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its hard

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just practice some solved problems from some book, first try solving it on your own , then look at the solved solution

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you would get hang of it then

fickle shell
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So I sub in sin(a)/2 for x into 1/sqrt(1-4x^2)?

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Or am I doing it all wrong

fierce jewel
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yes

fierce jewel
fickle shell
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1/sqrt(1-4x^2)

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1/sqrt(1-4(sin(a)/2)^2)

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1/sqrt(1-4(sin^2(a)/4))

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1/sqrt(1-sin^2(a))

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Ummm

fierce jewel
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use sin^2 (a) + cos^2 (a) = 1

fickle shell
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Ah yeah

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1/sqrt(cos^2(a))

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1/cos(a)

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then just integrate?

fierce jewel
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correct, but remember you have dx, you gotta change that as well

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dx/cos(a)
you can't integrate this

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you need dx in terms of a

fickle shell
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Ah yeah forgot about a

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Hmmm

fierce jewel
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remember what you assumed x to be

fickle shell
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All the formulas that have a have a sin or cos in them which is annoying for integration, no?

fierce jewel
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trigo sub is what makes integration harder

fickle shell
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So do I need U-sub after all?

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To finish this off

fierce jewel
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yea , you need to change dx

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we have 2x = sin(a)

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differentiate this

fickle shell
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1/cos(arcsin(2x))

fickle shell
fickle shell
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Sry if dumb question

fierce jewel
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logically answer, which one looks easier

fickle shell
fierce jewel
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sin(a)-2x

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-cos(a)-(x^2)

fierce jewel
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you are integrating

fickle shell
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Oh lol

fierce jewel
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lol

fickle shell
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Wait it wasnt correct either

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Its just -2 right?

fierce jewel
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the integration?

fickle shell
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Differentiation

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Cause its with respect to x no?

fierce jewel
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nope

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you have 2x =sin(a)

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differentiate it with respect to x

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so on lhs, you have 2

fickle shell
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rhs = 0?

fierce jewel
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on rhs you have
dsin(a)/dx
multiply and divide by da

fickle shell
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1*

fierce jewel
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so u get (dsin(a)/da)(da/dx)

fickle shell
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wait no it is 0

fierce jewel
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nope

fickle shell
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💀

fierce jewel
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sin(a) isn't a constant with respect to x

fickle shell
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Im confused

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its really not 0?

fierce jewel
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nope its not 0

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its actually which is cos(a) da/ dx = 2
so cos(a) da = 2 dx

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this is what u get

fickle shell
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Why da? It was with respect to x?

fierce jewel
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but u can differentiate sin(a) with respect to dx

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so we multiply and divide it with da

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and you can say , its kind of chain rule,
sin(a) differentiation would be cos(a) , but we have 'a' inside, whose differentiation would be da/dx
so 2 = cos(a) da/dx
2dx = cos(a) da

fickle shell
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Ok I think I get it

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My brain is on fire from so many new concepts 😂

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I need a break after this question lol

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But ok