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yeah I see
I guess what you've done is basically another way of plugging in -b/2 for x
The boxed equations above were the only given sets up information fyi
yeah I see
the natural thing to do here is just to plug in (-b/2, -32) into the equation for x and solve
but I suppose you could also formulate it getting the curves to coincide, but that's basically implicitly plugging in x = -b/2, y = -32 since if you're asserting that's the vertex form of the equation, you're basically saying that this is a point on it
Well you would first have to establish -b/2 as the x value
Everything following that step is relatively simple
It’s just a matter of substitution
well, in what you wrote for the vertex form, you're basically implicitly assuming that the vertex occurs at x=-b/2
because the vertex form is just y = x^2 shifted by the vertex coordinates
so it's just potatoe potato
Right, but in order to produce that value, I had to complete the square and factor for x^2+2ab+b^2
no, you wrote this by just saying that it's the vertex form
okay but I'm not talking about that
I'm talking about writing the second equation you did
the point is that you have to somehow show that every quadratic is a translated and rescaled version of y=x^2 to actually say that's the vertex form
I'm sure you're just taught this fact and told to accept that every quadratic can be written as a(x-b/2a)^2 + c = y, but this has to actually be proven lol
and that proof yields also that x = -b/2a is the x-coordinate of the vertex
so it's not really a biggie that you have to actually find it
I came up with it tho
I wasn’t familiar with that formula
Did I assume by inserting the y in the equation?
I just set up the equation in vertex form
wdym? I'm saying that saying that you wrote something in "vertex form" is implicitly assuming what I said
like there's no reason to believe that (x-b/2)^2 - 32 = y is the same curve as the one you're talking about unless you know that (-b/2, -32) is the vertex
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But is vertex form not in fact applicable to all quadratics?
it is
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I am supposed to simplify this to a+bi form
which I did
but
I got separate answers from the answer key
Answer key answer
My answer
I just need someone to show me their work.
*oops there is also a i multiplied to the end of both answers
I wouldn't call either of those simplified
uhm that seems wrong
that is a purely complex number with no real part
that's not how you write this
a+bi?
written like this you mean (2+5sqrt2)*(sqrt5+sqrt10)*i
so what you mean is I guess (2+5sqrt2) + (sqrt5+sqrt10)i ?
so the textbook has the plus but you just decided to ignore it?
oh shoot yeah forgot the plus
also the imaginary part in that picture is again different
oof im just typing them onto desmos for the photo
the point is my answer is different
than the textbook give one
anyone can do the work??
well of course we could. but that's not exactly what we are here for
how about you show your work
and we can check where you went wrong
did you write the original picture correctly?
this one?
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sorry im mid problem solving 😭
nw
ive grouped together like terms and have it equal to -185
It would be +(y... or -(y... depending on the type of conic
But the x^2 is negative
Fun fact but irrelevant, it could also be a straight line.
Conic's usually write x^2 term first and positive
yes
ah gotcha
prob wont run into that if its not too prevalent
so i currently have the y's and x's grouped and it = -185
i want to complete the square correct
yes precisely
why are you adding 184?
You want to complete the squares for the x and y terms
That is you want some kind of (x-h)^2 and (y-k)^2
If you have ax^2+bx, to complete the square, you need +(b/2a)^2
Then you have (x+b/2a)^2
If it's ax^2-bx, then you still add +(b/2a)^2, but now the squared term is (x-b/2a)^2
okay and is this just a typical part of completing the square? you always add b/2a^2?
If you have the first two terms, yes
you mean the squared value and the y value
i think all of mine have that
except the last one which is y^2-4y-12 but thats pretty easy
indeed
okay and so i add (90/2*9)^2
to which part of it
like how do i physically add it to the 9y^2-90y
Add the value to both sides of the equation
okay no worries ty for helping
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Hello
0.2, 0.3, 1.1, 1.4, 4.8, 0.3, 1.9, 3.8, 2.1, 0.1, 1.6, 2.2, 2.5, 1.6, 1.8, 2.4
- The table at the right shows the time spent waiting in line (in minutes) at a local supermarket
a) Perform a one-variable analysis of this data by finding the mean, median, mode, variance, standard deviation, range, and first and third quartiles.
b) Determine if there are any outliers. Explain how you did this.
c) Create a modified box-plot for this data.
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Yea gimme a sec
First write the 8^(x-1) with a base of 2
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Nice now calculate this
We’ll get to that
Just do this first
Now how can we write a square root as an exponent
Stephen
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Can anybody explain to me what an arch length is
in what context
Like the relationship between arch length radius and theta
In a circle
Oh wait no
I get it now
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Any ideas pls
I am pretty sure there is missing info
but if a = 0
we have an arithmetic progession
and sin a = 0
Nah there isn't unfortunately
0<a<180
yeah, but it is not an option
Ahh true☠️
wait not true
3sin x, 4sinxcos x, 3sinx-4sin³x
yes
Ahh ok then
What kind of sequence would this be?
We have 2 possibilities
3sinx-4sin³x< 4sinxcos x < 3sin x
or
3sinx-4sin³x<3sin x < 4sinxcos x
If this is the case
4sincosx/2 = 3sinx-4sin³x +3sinx
sinx!=0
Is that x factorial or not equal to?
2cos x = 6-4sin²x
yes
Which one?
cos x = 3-2sin²x
not equal to
Ahh right
So are they the 3 possibilities?
wait what
,solve 4sincosx/2 = 3sinx-4sin³x +3sinx
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Error: Invalid left hand side of assignment operator = (char 12)
it is easy
Oh lol
4cosxsinx=0?
why
2sin2x =0
what?
Wait that's wrong?😭
dude
That's the max value? I'm probably overcomplicated it
$-1\leq \sin x \leq 1 \implies 0\leq \sin^2 x \leq 1$
sopinha
Ahhhh
so the maximum is
1
no, of 2sin²x
2
what is the domain of cos
-1 to 1
so?
Wait
The lowest value of this should be 1??
Yes
3-2?
Yea
We have x = 90
only solution
(to this case)
now we wish it would be an arithmetic progression
So now we have a solution of x = 90
well
we have to check if it fits
3sinx-4sin³x,4sinxcos x ,3sin x if x = 90
3-4, 0, 3
-1,0,3
nope
either i did a mistake
or
idk
ah
It sould've benn 4sincosx = (3sinx-4sin³x +3sinx)/2
The solutions on wolfram aren't beautiful
What were they?😂
,calc 4sinxcosx = (-4sin^3x +6sinx)/2
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Error: Invalid left hand side of assignment operator = (char 11)
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😭😭
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@ionic lava sry abt the @ but u got any clues?
U helped with something similar b4
So I was wondering if u had any ideas abt this one
@young garden you have cos(a°) and you want sin(a°) ,Right ?
Nah I don't have any of them😭
Well we do have cos a° actually but it's in terms of k
you looking for a° ?
Nah we want sin a°
Yes but cos a° is in terms of K so idk how that's gonna work😭
Great, thanks!
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@young garden i guess K = 5
$sin(a) = \frac{sin(3a) + 2 sin(2a)}{K - 2}$
Mehdi_Moulati
this is what i found
since $cos(a) = \frac{\sqrt{k} - 1}{ 2}$
so, 0.786
Mehdi_Moulati
$2cos(a) = \sqrt{k} - 1$
Mehdi_Moulati
$2cos(a) + 1= \sqrt{k}$
Mehdi_Moulati
so $K = (2cos(a) + 1 )² = 4 cos²(a) + 4 cos(a) + 1$
Mehdi_Moulati
we know that : $sin(3a) = sin(a) (4cos²(a) - 1)$
Mehdi_Moulati
so $4cos²(a) = \frac{sin(3a)}{sin(a)} + 1$
Mehdi_Moulati
and we know that
$2 sin(2a) = 2 \cdot 2cos(a)sin(a) = 4 cos(a) sin(a)$
Mehdi_Moulati
i got 0.786 for sin a
you think thats right?
$sin(a) = \sqrt{1 - cos²(a)} = \sqrt{1 - \frac{\sqrt{K} - 2}{2}}$
Mehdi_Moulati
i make a mistake
$sin(a) = \sqrt{1 - cos²(a)} = \sqrt{1 - (\frac{\sqrt{K} - 1}{2})²}$
Mehdi_Moulati
,w sqrt(1 - (sqrt(5) - 1)²/2²)
i proved that $K = (2cos(a) + 1 )² = 4 cos²(a) + 4 cos(a) + 1$
Mehdi_Moulati
$K = 4 cos²(a) + 4 cos(a) + 1$
Mehdi_Moulati
i just try to find sin(a) in terms of sin(3a) and sin(2a)
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whats the answer?
Do you still have the lessons with you? If not, I can (try to) teach you how to do it from scratch
pls do
Alright, first of all, do you remember what m and c represent visually?
m is gradient
c is y intercept
right?
True! (because if you input x=0, you get m*0+c=c, so f(0) is just c)
ok
So, in this case, what would c be?
-4
Alright, that's the easy part - Now, you need to pick any 2 x values
In theory they can be anything but I suggest you pick 0 and 1 in this case because it makes the math easier
okay
0 and 1
First:
- What is f(0)?
- What is f(1)?
what's f?
The function of the line
Oh, I guess I should've said t
Because it's the line T, my bad
np
So...
- What is t(0)?
- What is t(1)?
idk
Hmmm, alright, let me show you
wait is it t(0)=0
Is this not how you reason through it?
Nope, t(0) is the value of y when x is 0, a.k.a. the y-intercept (sorry, I'm not sure how to explain this well, it might sound like word mash)
wait
r u explaining the American way
The American way?
I had no idea there was a difference-
Pretty sure this is standardized internationally
there's a moderate difference when u teach it, however the answer is the same
Yeah, there's different ways to find it
In fact I was gonna end this by showing you another way to get m
Which doesn't work as often but is still nice to know
Everything on the purple line is on x=2
yes
And everything on this line is on y=3
yes
And, as you can see, the point that is both on x=1 and y=1 is also on the line
Hence, when it comes to this line, when x is 1, y is 1,
Which in turn implies that t(1)=1 (in general it should be t(x)=y)
t(x)=y)
or the t(1)=1
?
ohh ok yea
didn't c that
Alright, do you now see how to read the graph?
yes
So, do you know what t(0) is?
yes
👀... So what is it?
-4
True, which is also the y-intercept, because the x=0 line is the same as the y line (try to wrap your head around this, I know it sounds confusing)
So we now know that our function is of the form mx-4
Okay my brain just did a 360
You don't need to x values for this step, I just realised, you only need one
Let's pick x=1 because that'll make the calculations easier
If we plug in x=1, we get m*1-4=m-4, and we know that this should equal 1
Hence we get the equation m-4=1, which should be easy to solve
@still temple Everything good so far? Note, math class is confusing sometimes, but at least the teacher has experience in teaching. I don't, I'm just a volunteer
I'm taking this silence as a no-
Do ping me when you come back, and feel free to ask as much questions as possible to make this crystal clear
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I'm very sorry, I couldn't find my laptop charger
mood
Yeah, that's why I really don't like it
I never avoid the oportunity to have long conversations with my math teacher about the education system, but oh well, not here... So let's get back to the subject
Is everything clear?
And, if not, which message first gave you any confusion?
Everything tbh
So, which message was the first to be confusing?
Even if it was just a slight confusion, that still counts
I have another question if u dont mind
Sure
Ah, you see, in theory if I teach you how to solve the first problem correctly you should easily learn how to solve the second
So, let's go back to that
Do you get that t(0) is -4 and t(1) is 1?
Yes,
And do you get why the function must be of the form mx-4?
may u remind me why pls
Well, do you see why all linear functions are of the form y=mx+c?
yea
And do you remember how we found out that c is -4 in this case?
Yeah
the y intercept
Yeah, a.k.a. the value of y when x is 0
Is that part also clear?
ye
Ah, see now why math teachers hate it so much when you say that what you didn't understand was "everything"? ;) Clearly you understand quite a bit in fact
Because of that, we can substitute -4 for c
And we get y=mx-4
The last piece of the puzzle is that m value
yeah lol
The trick here starts by picking any x value
In this case, I'll pick x=1 because that tends to make the calculations easier
But when we have to sub
i find it kinda confusing
When you know the value
Once you know that c is -4, it's easier to replace all instances of c with -4
It means you have less unknowns, less pieces of the puzzle to find
By looking at the graph, we can see that where x is 1, y is also 1
So therefore, you can replace x with 1, in which case you also have to replace y with 1 for it to stay true (similarily, if you replaced x with 0, you would have to replace y with -4), which gives you m*1-4=1 (obviously m*1 is just m)
@still temple Everything clear so far?
Ping me when you come back
Alright, I'll have to go. When you come back, ping the "Helpers" role, and ask them to explain anything I said which was confusing
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Hey, I'm currently learning about Taylor and Mauclarins approximations. Is the encircled part the remainder?
Reason why I'm asking is that the remainder should essentially be how off the approximation is
The quesiton in my book states to estimate the error when approximating ln(1+x) approx 0.1
However, I'm a bit unsure on how to do this
not enough context to answer your question.
can you show the whole page
or you could try calculating the remainder for that function and see if it matches
It's in Swedish.
Ahh
My question, after thinking for a bit more, is when should you know whether theta should be 0 or 1?
or in your example, c?
I know that a = 0 since it's mauclaurins but how about theta? Textbook never demonstrated on how to decide its value, only that it's between 0 and 1
ahh solvedi t
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Need help on this problem^^
find the derivative of E, and set it equal to 0
I don't really know what that means, they just want me to be able to identify it off of a graphing calc
which class is this for sorry, I am unsure which mwthod would be bestfor you
Precalculus
oh, hmmm when it says minimize, does it mean most negative?
you should probably just graph it and find minimum that way
V means speed so it can not be negative
Yes I just do not know which one it would be because the graph is like the one I put above
How can I identify a minimum speed of a graph like that?
this is beyond the scope of pre calculus, you would need a derivative. If your calculator has a local minimum function, you should try to use that
Yup, just did it and got ir right
Ty @untold spruce
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how do I know i've selected the correct vectors for a and b for the cross product
so I would use OR and OQ
but my head gets clogged in 3D space if I try to imagine too many points
anyone know how tf to get it each time?
origin is one
doesn't the vector product give us the area formed by the two vectors?
i mean the absolute of the product
yes
meaning
A=|v x w|
its |a x b|
yeah
Yea
a and b are given
no no the issue is selecting the vectors by knowing which ones are the edge
a=(1,1,0)
b=(2,2,2)
if I was given like 2 other vector points
a x b=(2,-2,0)
|a x b|=sqrt(2^2+2^2)=sqrt(8)=2sqrt(2)
yep
,calc sqrt(8)
Result:
2.8284271247462
got 3
like
how did you look at those points and know which ones are the adjacent sides
or
guess ill just draw 50 thousand things till I get it
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Can someone explain how to do this to me?
There is a point L between J and K which create two segments called JL and LK.
The sum of those two segments must equal JK.
JL + LK = JK.
You are given JL = 2/3 LK. Substitute that into the above equation and solve for LK.
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4 2 3
4 4 4
4 4 4
guys is this a lineraly dependent matrix?
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heres how i set it up i got the intengral from 10 to 1
(2 pi x (x^3 - 4 pi x ^2 - 4 pi x )) and its wrong ?
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Can someone please explain to me how this works?
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ok basically you need to break this into parts (at least thats how i understand it)
$\lim_{n\to \infty} \frac{1}{n} = 0$
$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{n+1}{n} = 1$
so,
$\lim_{n \to \infty} 8(4^{\frac{1}{n}} - 4^{\frac{n+1}{n}} = 8(4^0 - 4^1) = 8(-3) = -24$
and
$\lim_{n \to \infty} n(1-4^{\frac{1}{n}} 😒
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so I'm looking at the process my teacher provided and he split it into denom and numerator
nvm -- i tried 😭
cuz the denom turns into n(1-4^0) = n(-3)
oh yea
now i rmmr
i tried using latex and its confusing
let me write it on paper
tysmm
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but to do that you turn the inf * 0 to 1/inf * 0 and stuff
for a detailed summary: see https://www.symbolab.com/solver/limit-calculator/\lim_{x\to\infty}\left(n\left(1-4^{\frac{1}{n}}\right)\right)?or=input
Free limit calculator - solve limits step-by-step
cuz the top is easy to get, its -24
and then you apply lhr to the bottom and get the -ln4
ohh ic tysm
I think I just need to review the lhr bc it's been a while but thanks!
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not an actual question, just need someone else's opinion
the answers in this multiple choice should be written using OR, not AND, no?
like when stating solutions to a quadratic, you use OR. Using AND wouldn't make sense cus you'd need both x at the same time
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thanks, now to convince my friend to change their and into ors lol
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$P(F \cup A) = \frac{6}{52} + \frac{2}{52}$
surely there are 12 face cards in the deck, not 6?
it says "face card or red ace", not "red face card or red ace"
Ye my mind slipped
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This right??
aye
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can anyone explain why 6 turns to 1/6 in my professors notes?
Think of it more as $\int_{0}^{\frac{4\pi}{3}} \sin(u) \cdot \frac{1}{6} du$
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Replace the dx with 1/6 du, if that makes it clearer why?
no im still kinda confused
sorry
so i replace dx with 1/6 but where does the 1/6 come from
u = 6x
therefore du/dx = 6
therefore du = 6 * dx
the work is coloured in lime
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How do I solve this?
This is the answer if it helps:
consider the first few derivatives,
leave stuff in expanded/exponent form
and you should see a pattern
So, I have to calculate, lets say the first 3 derivatives, and I should see a pattern?
Let me try 😼
Okay I got it, thx
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Mates English isnt my first language someone give me answer 💀
Is it 26?
please dont tell me this is some type of survey thing 
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should i use product rule for finding d/dx(xy)??
yes
k
i am getting x*dy/dx + y
should i further convert it and write dy/dx = -y/x?
yes
depends on whether you intend on doing anything further with it and what your school requires
i think no
if for instance you need to differentiate it again, its easiest to leave it in this form
i need to apply this in a question so ig i should just leave it this in the first form..
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How do I find the antiderivative of this?
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do I turn sqrt t into t^1/2?
split numerator
and integrate separately
so f(t) = 2root(t) - 4/root(t) + 3
now integ separately @still temple
how do you take the antiderivative of 2t/sqrt t?
notice that t is (root(t))^2
so it becomes 2root(t)
then use intx^n formula
I was thinking of the $\frac{-4}{\sqrt{t}}$ for a sec ignore me
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wait how did we get 2sqrt(t)?
^
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To find the antiderivative of a function, we can use the rules of integration. To start, we can write the given function as the product of two simpler functions:
$$\frac{2t-4+3\sqrt{t}}{\sqrt{t}} = \frac{2t-4}{\sqrt{t}} + \frac{3\sqrt{t}}{\sqrt{t}}$$
doesnt work
smh
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ok i see what you mean
did u understand it tho
yea, you turned t into sqrt(t)^2 so you could cancel
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Hi, I got the following question
There are 2 halls the sum of the people in them is 900
If 100 people will move from hall A to hall B the amount of people in hall B will be twice as large as the amount of people in hall A so here's what I've already done
bot's borked
Well anyway I don't know what shall I put on the 2nd side
Like I do
2(b+100)
But I don't know why is it true
Did you get
A + B = 900
A-100 = 2(B+100)
?
Yes
But
About the last equation
Idk why is it working
But that's what are teacher told us to do
I just don't understand the logic behind it
So we know that 100 people moved from A to B, so we get (A - 100) and it says that when 100 people move into B (B+100) the amount of people in B is twice as large (2*(B+100)) as the amount in A
Right
But why not 2b+100
Wouldn't that make more sense
Oh
Wait
Nope I thought I understood but I didn't
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This question is under the topic Rolle's theorem and Lagrange theorem.
Show that $x^5+5x=5$ has exactly one solution. Any help?
!Mike
riemann
ig, my teacher calls it Lagrange
that takes care of at least one but not exactly one
oh balls
all answers says is suggestion is consider the interval [0,1]
yea apply MVT to that
I have another question. How do I know what interval to use?
I did the following, I don't see how this proves there is exactly one solution. Any help?
one way is to show the function doesn't have any turning points / critical values
or equivalently (i think), the function is either increasing/decreasing
$5x^4+5=0, x^4=-1$
!Mike
Therefore f`(x) has no real solution therefore no turning points therefore strictly increasing?
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may I ask why the f of X the has a exponent which is negative -1 and I wanna know the reason to that
sutdying the basics of inverse function rn
it's just the notation for inverse
similarly a^(-1) is the inverse of a
so mathematicians just copied that notation
wym by that me no understand 😦
monkey words please
like
???
It's the definition of inverse function
You can check the wiki page or some online course
so u basically just write it when u get the FA when finding the inverse of the function??
okay nvm I get it know
mb HAHAHAHAH
so basically when finding the inverse the negative 1 there is the proper notation for the inverse function?
yes f the function f-1 the inverse function of f
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Hey
Can anyone help with contour integrals?

i have found a = 3 and b = 2
and know i need to do the contour integral
and i have made it this far
And i feel like the first part is 3(2pii)
but i dont knoe
know
use residue theorem

hmmm
cauchy's integral formula
how do i apply this
use cauchy's integral formula
or like
just the 1/z integral
where i get confused is, i know the result is 10 pi i
oh wait
no it is in the interior domain lol
you evaluate it in the exact same way
so its 2(2 pi i) ?
yeah
Thank you so much. Can i ask one more question before you leave?
it is a nearly identical problem
how do i see if it is in the interior domain?
so z+1 is not in the domain?
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Can someone help me with this
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well the problem is saying cos t is the x value and sin t is the y value
so i guess they just want you to state the values on the unit circle that are on the bottom half
yea
This is an example of what the answer could look like
that would be like all the values that are from
sorry the point should be c(t) not t
i mean the answer is just the angle from pi to 2pi
because that's literally how the unit circle is defined
if you plug in values of t from pi to 2pi, you will end up drawing the lower half of the unit circle
if you plug in values of t from 0 to 2pi, you will end up drawing the entire unit circle
sorry i dont know how to explain it good
but how would i figure out its those values
you know how angles work in the unit circle
you start at 0 at the extreme right
and the top is pi/2
the left is pi
the bottom is 3pi/2
and the x values are cos and the y values are sin
there was one more question can you help me with it
if the angle is defined as pi, which is 180 degrees, then the x value is cos(pi) and the y value is sin(pi)
cos(pi) is -1 and sin(pi) is 0, which you can infer from the chart since you just look at
do you still need help with it
yes I do
i think you got the first question wrong btw
its not 11pi/4
wait
let me check again just to make sure
yea its not 11pi/4
yeah i dont think its 11pi/4
so what would it be
then you can just add 2pi to the answer because the period for sin and cos are 2pi, so after you add 2pi they just revert back to the same value
i got -sqrt2 by finding the normal coordinate from the polar form
the r and theta given in the problem are -2 and pi/4 so the x coordinate is rcos(theta) which means -2cos(pi/4)
same procedure for sin
and you find that both x and y coordinates happen to be -sqrt2
ok
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hey
I was able to get the partials but am unsure how to show all the solutions
here is what I have so far
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I thibk
Im Not sure i just started partials
But get the deritive in each plane
And set them = to 0
?
Looks like you’ve already solved it? Lmao
I got the derivatives just not all the CP's
cause Im not sure how to fully solve a 3 varaible equation
Yeah , we only did 2 variables is well
A critical point is when the deritive is 0 right?
yes
And you’ve solved for x,y and z
yes i have that written down
and -1,-1,-5
but that one can become an infinite differnt version of itself
so how do i get all or a funcion of it?
WOLFRAM ALPHA TIMEEEEW
Gimme a sec
ok
I’ve asked chatGPT
No sols
Yeah I dont think it calculated the deritives correctly
i had it solve the three equations but it said not possible
Yeh get help jaha
People need to stop using chatbots for math
real
Can you post the images again so I don't gotta scroll up
How do you get x(y + 1) = 0
Idk I haven't worked it out
Should be y(x+1)
Work it out and see