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past wyvern
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So B whould be 1 then?

dark lava
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Not quite either, when p is 2, it's a quadratic function

past wyvern
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It would be 2 then. Right?

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B=2?

dark lava
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Yep

past wyvern
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Would c=4 then?

dark lava
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no

past wyvern
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C would equal one then. Right?

dark lava
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no again

past wyvern
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Okay so that means c=3

Then that should mean D=1 and A=4

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Hopefully

dark lava
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Yes

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I just wanna understand how it all works

cosmic trail
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how many times bigger is the bug in the photo than in the real life

marble hound
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yeah

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I got several different answers

cosmic trail
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what did you get

marble hound
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37.5

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cosmic trail
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what's 37.5

marble hound
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37.5 cm

cosmic trail
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what is

marble hound
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the actual length

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I know it doesn't make sense

cosmic trail
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I didn't ask for the length

marble hound
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the question is "What is the actual length of the bug"

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the scale length is 2.5 cm

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what is the real length

marble hound
cosmic trail
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no

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it's in the information given

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and then you find out how big it is form that

marble hound
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what do I need to do then

cosmic trail
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what does the ratio 15:1 mean

marble hound
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it is scale ratio

cosmic trail
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ok so what does that mean

marble hound
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its like a comparison

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like length on drawing to actual length

cosmic trail
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yeah

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but say it mathematically

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what does it mean

marble hound
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idk man mathematically

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I just need to confirm this answer

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is it 0.1667 cm

cosmic trail
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yes

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the picture is 15 times bigger

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so you div ide by 15

marble hound
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thank you

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Initially I did 15 over 1

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Did I do this right

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hey! so im new to this and i was curious if i could fine soem math problems honestly and im am just confused im in an 7th grade level and im also needing help on explaining my classmates how i do math im in scientific notifications per ex:. 0.07 x 10^3 = 70 and im simply confused waht forum i can go to tlak about this

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You can think of it like multiplying by 10 3 times

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little fjord
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wjat does this m,ean

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fallen quiver
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They are proportional

little fjord
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yes

fallen quiver
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30/6 = 65/New volume

covert pelican
little fjord
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how do i

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nvm

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m=kv or something?.

covert pelican
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30/6

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then 65/v

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and it must be equal to each other

little fjord
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ok

covert pelican
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so 30/6=65/v

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Notice how both the kgs are on thee numerator and the volume on the denominator

little fjord
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the constant is 5?

covert pelican
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what constant?

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i mean yea it increases by 5

little fjord
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ok thanks

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little fjord
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i see

covert pelican
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just solving the proportion equation will directly give us the answer and is much faster

little fjord
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ohhhhh ok

covert pelican
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also btw u can flip the euqation to 6/30=v/65 and still get the same answer

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just makee sure its all consistent

little fjord
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okay thx

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wait so then qwhats the new value

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volume

covert pelican
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did u solve the equation?

little fjord
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30 divided by 5 is 6

covert pelican
little fjord
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i mean

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30 divided by 6 is 5

covert pelican
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ok so 5 = 65/v

little fjord
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so 65 / 5?

covert pelican
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yes

little fjord
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13

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so it's 13 right

covert pelican
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yea thats ur answer

little fjord
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thanks

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frail spade
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hello can someone help me solve this problem

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late niche
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hey. have you tried something ?

frail spade
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hey

frail spade
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not the first one

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i keep on messing up when multiplying the denominator with the numerator

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i multiply -3sqrt8 by 36sqrt160 right?

late niche
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you want to reduce the fraction, right ?

frail spade
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i dont know

late niche
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what's the question asking ?

frail spade
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i dont know

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im so sorry

late niche
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dhjsqfhjsqdf well

frail spade
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all i know is that

late niche
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i think it's about reducing

frail spade
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i need to multiply the top and bottom by

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-3sqrt8

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right

late niche
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have you tried to simplify the square roots first ?

frail spade
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wdym

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like 36sqrt160?

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dividing the 160?

late niche
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sqrt of 160 can be reduced

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or like yea multiplying by -3 * sqrt 8

frail spade
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hmmm

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im sorry i had to go use the restroom

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one sec

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lemme do the 160

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ok

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i got 144sqrt10

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do i multiply that by -3sqrt8

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robust linden
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Ik this isn’t math it’s geography

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robust linden
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Can someone help@me

uncut crow
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lmaooo

robust linden
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Please

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I know it’s not math

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Pls

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uncut crow
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noooo sorry i don't know any geography 😭

robust linden
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Bruhhhh I’m fucking screws

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I have a big test tmrw and

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💀

robust linden
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break it down to me pls

covert pelican
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1st one is 50 degrees F

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2nd one is Albuquerque

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last one is 60 degrees F

robust linden
covert pelican
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🤨

robust linden
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Cause I’m Hindhu/punjabi

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Cause my mom is punjabi and my dad hindhu

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I can tell by that pfp

covert pelican
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guess where

robust linden
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Idk

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alpine grail
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are the derivatives of two integrals of a function the same if the integrals are just across different lengths

alpine grail
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like is the derivative of the integral of sin^2x from 0 to x

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the same as the derivative of the integral of sin^2x from 2 to x

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i feel like they should be different but i have no idea how

ripe flint
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What's sin^2(0)

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And sin^2(2)

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This is FTC

alpine grail
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sin^2(0) is 0

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and sin^2(2) is not 0

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so would the derivative of the integral of sin^2x from 0 to x be sin^2(x) - 0 or sin^2(x)

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and the derivative of the integral of sin^2x from 2 to x be sin^2(x) - sin^2(2)?

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thorn wren
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anyone understand how to do this question??

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ocean garden
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It's from differential equations. The correct answer is (x+4)²=y+3

bright burrow
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However i think your mistake is definetly what youve written in the lhs

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That would be the avg rate of change over an interval, not the slope of the tangent at (x,y)

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Swory

thorn wren
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wtf

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But you have to get your own channel

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tropic grove
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Hello

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(x) is always independent = input

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time is an example

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if we made a chart including hours and minutes

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minutes should be the input

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but in reality its output

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why does minute depend on hours

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weeks should depend on days

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undone garnet
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Trying to find x1 and x2. x1 + x2 = 1 , this is a unit circle, that is the center, I know the two theta angles

fallen quiver
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umm... intersecting chords theorem?

scarlet sequoia
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  • fact that x1 + x2 = 1
undone garnet
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Ok so I guess I gotta find the other distances

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wait they aren't chords that go across the whole diamter

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Isn't intersecting chords theorem for 2 lines that touch both sides

fallen quiver
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just extend x2 x1 to the other side

undone garnet
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huh, I'll try that

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😐

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😀

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Pls help me need answers

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restive river
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Simplify $(y+2x^2)(y^4+2x)$.

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restive river
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i got uhh

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$y^5+2xy+2x^2y^4+4x^3$

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restive river
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but when i put it into a calculator

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it gives me $y^5+2yx+2x^2y^4+4x^3$

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restive river
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is it the same or not

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multiplication is commutative so yes it is the same

restive river
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actually wouldnt it be correct

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yeah

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i was just about to say that

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Hello

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can I show my exercice in french ?

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sure go ahead :DD

hardy jungle
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ty man

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if u need i can translate

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french is my 3rd language 😎

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A parchment attributed to Rackham the pirate has just been found. On this parchment appears the plan of an island and the following message:
"30 paces separate the flagpole and the coconut tree. On the line that joins them, I have hidden a treasure. Twice the distance from the treasure to the flagpole, plus three times the distance from the treasure to the coconut tree equals 65 steps."

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I use translater sooo im not sure if its very english lol

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okayy, so you need to call the distance from the flag pole to the treasure is x (x is a positive number:)

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(uhhh, 30 paces = ? steps ?)

hardy jungle
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oh yes

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paces = steps

lime vector
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ohhh, okay

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so you have

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oh wait wait

hardy jungle
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yes take ur time 🙂

lime vector
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since the distance from the treasure to the flag pole is x

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then the distance from the treasure to the coconut tree is 30-x

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so now you have

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2x + 3*(30-x) = 65

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can you solve it from now ?

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:))

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=> x = 25

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=> the distance from the treasure to the flag pole is 25 steps :DD

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are there any question ?

hardy jungle
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ohhh thanks 🙂

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yes

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uh wait

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We assimilate the line to a graduated line of origin M (the mast) of unit 1 step.
The coconut tree is at point C with abscissa 30.
x is the abscissa of the point T representing the treasure.

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how can i represent the line ?

lime vector
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if you dont know now to represent something, just draw it out

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like

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on your homework notebook (or whatever), draw a line with 2 ends name C (for the coconut tree) and F(for the flag pole)

hardy jungle
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C ------------- F like this ?

lime vector
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between the line, add a T (for the treasure) and start counting

lime vector
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C---------------------T-------------F

hardy jungle
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ok ok and I just have to represent that?

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yea yea

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copy the whole thing i wrote :))

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i love u

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this question if for avg rate of change

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there is a table

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f(a) is 77 and a=10

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and f(b) is 88 and b=17

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would the answer be 11/7

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yes

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hello , please someone can tell me how i can solve this

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scarlet sequoia
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Is l'Hospital rule allowed?

burnt zenith
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nope

honest aurora
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$$\frac{\text{exponential}}{\text{not exponential}}=\text{divergence}$$when both functions are growing functions

scarlet sequoia
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then maybe series expansion

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of the numerator

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Duh Hello

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scarlet sequoia
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use

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in fact the above thing is true, if it's sufficient for you u can just follow it

burnt zenith
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okeey thanks !!

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Karl builds his houses of cards on a table. There is a correlation between the number of cards
the table and the number of floors in the house of cards. For example, there are 6 cards touching the table in the house of cards with 3
floors.

2.2 How many cards touch the table in a house of cards with n floors?

sand dove
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Try to draw the house of cards for small values of n

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Start with n = 1, then n=2, etc...

tulip summit
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but what is n

sand dove
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n is any positive integer we want

tulip summit
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so its kinda like X

sand dove
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Yes

tulip summit
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but we decided

sand dove
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But just for positive integers

tulip summit
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ok so it cant be -5

sand dove
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Does it make sense for a house of cards to have -5 floors ?

tulip summit
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nah

sand dove
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Yep

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i just asked hahhaha

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Ik dw :)

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never heard of n before thank you

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wary fractal
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why cant you do 9C3 here

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wary fractal
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or actually 9P3

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im having a hard time understanding when to use which rule

prime egret
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Repeated are allowed

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And order matters

wary fractal
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oh true

prime egret
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Just think about it you have 9 choices for the first digit 9 choices for the second digit and 9 choices for the third

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i dont understand exponents

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this stuff always trips me up, why cant I multiply both sides?

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BUT, you do can multiply x^2 on both sides, since this is guaranteed to be positive, and it change the question into a quadratic inequality.

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You have a drum of water, a 5-quart pail, a 3-quart pail, and an empty drum. You need to measure 1 quart of water.Describe how to measure exactly 1 quart of water using these TWO pails. Assume you have a large container that will hold as much water as you need. how should i draw this problem?

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um

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idk how u wld draw

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so when we put in another 2 its full

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someone sent this but then could not really understand the 2,4,2 part

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idk y u ask me elab on the first n u go on to ask another 2 Qs

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yea idk

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yeah but there is an empty drum

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can someone help with part b? How do i find the range of g?

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im assuming the domain is {t1, t2, ... , tn}

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no, domain is power set of T_n

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so {t1, t2, ..., tn} is the range? I thought I am restricting g of f to the domain {t1, t2, ... , tn}

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{empty set, {1}, {2}, {1, 2}}

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ok, so now f maps each of those things to their cardinality cubed

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oh poop lol I missed that, my bad

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ah, ok, so you should show g is 1-1 with that restriction, since T_1, T_2, T_3,...., T_n are each a subset of P(T_n)

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so with that restriction we are restricting the domain right?

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The height of a cylinder is decreasing at a constant rate of 3 feet per second. The volume remains a constant 462 cubic feet. At the instant when the radius of the cylinder is 44 feet, what is the rate of change of the radius? The volume of a cylinder can be found with the equation V=\pi r^2 h.V=πr
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48/226 I believe

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What is the radius of a circle in which an angle of 3 radians cuts off an arc of 45 cm?

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Would anyone know how to go at this? I am confused at where to begin

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And the same logic would be applied to:

What is the angle determined by an arc of length 5pi meters on a circle of radius 15 meters?

so it would be 5pi * 5 meters?

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arc length would be (radius)(angle in radians) which is how you got the first one, by factoring out the angle from the arc length

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What is the formula to solve these equation types?

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easiest way to memorize trig funcs? (30, 45, 60, 90)

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draw the triangles

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Think of your unit circle and remember it intuitively. On your circle the cos value is the x and your sin value is your y. From there the value goes in arithmetically increasing steps either up or down. Your value will go from 0 to sqrt(1)/2, sqrt(2)/2, sqrt(3)/2, sqrt(4)/2 respectively

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3C2 / 25C3

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Yes

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defective *

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Ya it says 2 parts are selected w/o replacement

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right i need to sleep

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lolll

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and we are trying to find the probability that both would be defective

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That is the probability that both are defective

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💀

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another way to think of it 3C2 22C0 / 25C2 as you want 2 defective parts and no non-defective parts

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How do we solve that? 🤣 cause i have like 2 other questions just like it just finding probability for other stuff

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P(B)

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Do you know the combination formula? n!/(n-r)!r!

restive river
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P(2defective) = 3C2/25C2

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Ik that

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r factorial

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in this case its a combination

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Ohhh ok

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so 3 combinations 2 divided by 25 combinations 2

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ja

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I got 3C2=3

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25C2 is 300

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Im not sure how to do no. 14

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I see $\frac{\frac{1}{\cos^2\theta}}{\tan^2\theta}$

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which is a good start

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I tried that

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That doesn't seem right

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$\int_0 \pi e^{2x}sinxdx$

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Dr. Leonard McCoy

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Have you tried integration by parts ?

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yeah, I know I'm supposed to IBP

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$\int_{0}^{\pi} e^{2x}sin(x) dx$

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Let's call this integral I.
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why is this true

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hey this looks like complex exponential

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e and ln are inverse functions

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Someone pls walk me through how to solve 4(ax+3)-3ax = 25+3a

(Find x)

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How do you test with Divergence Test?

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This was on my exam.

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How do you test the above infinite series using the Divergence Test?

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rewrite 2^(3n) as 8^n

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why does the |1^x| get rid of the x

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the x is redundant

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?

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Yup so it diverges right?

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yep

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Ok thanks..

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np ^-^

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It's off topic but i'm just really stressed because my professor is a hard grader and thinking that i didn't do well on the test today it gets me stressed

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@covert pelican thats why i wanted to call lol

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it's not an iff theorem

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it just says if something holds then the series converges

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it doesn't say if it doesn't hold then it diverges

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It does though, because you are basically using the divergence test when you are testing for convergence

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If the limit of that sequence is not going to be 0,thats just the definition of the divergence test, no?

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what you said doesn't have anything to do with alternating series test

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but that's just divergence test

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Thats something you can also assume with the alternating series test because you are doing the same procedure but you want it to go to 0, else it will be divergent with the divergence test naturally

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what i'm trying to say is alternating series test hypotheses not holding doesn't indicate the series is divergent or convergent

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I'm supposed to give this in 𝑦 = 𝑘 • x ^ p form
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I have this number 0,13125, can I make this into fraction

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0.13125/1

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0.131251 00 00)/ 1 100 00 = 13125/100 00

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\* for *

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but yes

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What should I think next Uhm

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although you need one more zero

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well now it is a fraction

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No its a 5 zeros

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and you put 4 zeros

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Oh my bad

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Yes now its a fraction

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and that's what you wanted

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I want to shorten it too

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well then reduce the fraction

grim mountain
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How can we know How much

stone stump
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do it step by step

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can you see any common divisor of 13125 and 100 000 ?

grim mountain
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From 10000/ 100 000 =0.1

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You mean that way or

stone stump
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you want to reduce the fraction 13125/100000

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when can you reduce a fraction

grim mountain
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When we have similiar factors

stone stump
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ok

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can you see one similar factor

grim mountain
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No tbh

stone stump
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can you tell me a factor of 13125

grim mountain
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Yes by 5?

stone stump
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good

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and what is 13125/5 ?

grim mountain
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13125/5 = 2000+600 + 20 + 4 + 1

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26241

stone stump
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no

grim mountain
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?

stone stump
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2625

grim mountain
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Oh Ops

stone stump
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ok

grim mountain
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Haha

stone stump
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is 5 also a factor of 100000 ?

grim mountain
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Yes

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20000

stone stump
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one zero less

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ok, what do we get now if we cancel the 5 from our fraction

grim mountain
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Yes we lose the zero from our factor

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2625/20000

stone stump
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good

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and now we repeat this

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can you tell me a common factor of 2625 and 20000

grim mountain
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5

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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Or is there a quicker way

stone stump
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do you know the euclidean algorithm?

grim mountain
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No

stone stump
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then I don't really know a faster way

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except "seeing" bigger factors

grim mountain
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I have a quick mind

stone stump
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the euclidean algorithm is an algorithm to calculate the gcd of two numbers

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essentially we repeatedly use division with remainder

grim mountain
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Gcd is global cooldown?

stone stump
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greatest common divisor

grim mountain
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Ah ok

stone stump
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can you see how knowing the gcd is relevant here?

grim mountain
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Yes it’s the closest common numerator of the two factoris

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For instance 42/100 = 21/50

stone stump
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cause gcd(42, 100)=2, yes

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so, in our case we would want to calculate the gcd of 13125 and 100000

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we do this by repeated division with remainder

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what do you get if you divide 100000 by 13125 with remainder

grim mountain
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Remainder is?

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I know that we would get 0.13125

stone stump
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well that would be the other way around. and also not with remainder

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I mean dividing 100000 by 13125 by hand

grim mountain
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For every 0. 13125 number would jump in decimal

stone stump
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and then stopping when you would need to introduce the decimal point

grim mountain
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Yes by eliminating our divider of zeros.

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Our decimal point is when value of our numerator has No more ten numbers to divide

stone stump
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do you know how to divide by hand

grim mountain
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Uhm. Im assuming its a method? But i dont know it

stone stump
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isnt that usually taught in like 3rd grade or something?

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long division?

grim mountain
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I am not good with names

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Oh by remainder you mean the what cant be divided is the remain?

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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Ok so for instance : 5/4 is 1 remain 1

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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So.

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Why we need that

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what do you get if you divide 100000 by 13125 with remainder.

stone stump
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well its part of the euclidean algorithm

grim mountain
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How do we know gcd

stone stump
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this would go faster if you just did what I said and then we can do the questions later

grim mountain
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Ok

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Im not sure tbh

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I dont think we can utilise the fraction with a remainder

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13125/100 000 =

stone stump
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can you just divide 100000 by 13125 with remainder. completely ignore the fraction and anything, just to this calculation

grim mountain
stone stump
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no, other order

grim mountain
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Oh

stone stump
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and that's also not a division with remainder

grim mountain
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1000 00/13125 this way?

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Ok this got rough I have no idea

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But in a sense if I assume an example of a lower fraction numbers 2/10 it’s 0 and remainder 2

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Oh the remainder is 13125?

stone stump
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no

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100000 divided by 13125 is 7 with remainder 8125

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cause 100000 = 7*13125 + 8125

grim mountain
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Why did we change the fractions in order

stone stump
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cause otherwise as part of the euclidean algorithm we would immediately switch the order

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during the EA you always divide the bigger number by the smaller number

grim mountain
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Doesent that make the numerator fraction a^-x

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Oh intresting

stone stump
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again, can you forget the fraction and everything

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we are doing EA

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EA calculates the gcd of two numbers

grim mountain
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Oh ok

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What are the rules of EA

stone stump
grim mountain
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Yes how many times does our numerator able to divide with a primal number and the rest is remainder.

stone stump
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ok

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there is a theorem which now says that gcd(13125, 100000) = gcd(13125, 100000-7*13125) = gcd(13125, 8125)

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now as the next step of the EA, we divide 13125 by 8125 with remainder

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what do we get

grim mountain
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1 and remainder x

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Remainder doesent matter since we can’t do that next step

stone stump
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what who says we cant do the next step

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remainder definitely matters

grim mountain
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Okay so I got this in calculator

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1,615384615384615

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So what we do here is 13125-8125

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So it’s 1 and 5000 remainder

stone stump
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ok. again by the previously mentioned theorem, now gcd(13125, 8125) = gcd(8125, 5000)

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so as the next step, we divide 8125 by 5000 with remainder

grim mountain
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Correct

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Gives is 1 and r= 3125

stone stump
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ok and next we divide 5000 by 3125

grim mountain
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5000-3125= 1975

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This got quite odd

stone stump
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1875

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and next divide 3125 by 1875

grim mountain
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1300

stone stump
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1250

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and next 1875 by 1250

grim mountain
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625

stone stump
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and 1250 by 625

grim mountain
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2

stone stump
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and remainder?

grim mountain
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0

stone stump
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ok and because the remainder is 0 we now stop

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and the previous remainder is the gcd we have been looking for

grim mountain
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What the

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That’s our gcd?

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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Intresting

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So by default we divide our fractions with 625

stone stump
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at every step we reduced the numbers
gcd(13125, 100000) = gcd(13125, 8125) = gcd(5000, 8125) = gcd(5000, 3125) = gcd(1875, 3125) = gcd(1875, 1250) = gcd(625, 1250) = gcd(625, 0) = 625

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where we always replace either the first or the second number by the next remainder

grim mountain
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13125/625)/100000/625)?

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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What do we get?

stone stump
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well what is 13125/625

grim mountain
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😑

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Im gonna use calculator?

stone stump
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well you could do it by hand

grim mountain
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With EA?

stone stump
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but so far you didn't want to so it would surprise me if you want to do it now

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long division

grim mountain
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Imma do it 😂

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Ok so 21

stone stump
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good and what is 100000/625 ?

grim mountain
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Ugh I’m Gonna calculate

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160

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21/160

stone stump
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yes

grim mountain
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Ah why’s that

stone stump
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just coincidence here

grim mountain
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Ah I see

stone stump
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anyway, I would argue that the method we used before is faster

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at least as long as the factors we find are small

grim mountain
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Yeah this was too long

stone stump
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if the smallest factor is like 47 or something, you would never find that otherwise

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without EA

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so a good idea is to combine both algorithms. first do the first one with the small factors like 2,3,5 etc

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and then maybe after that use EA

grim mountain
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Never seen it before

stone stump
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well you use EA in university, yes. but that's related to number theory and not reducing fractions

grim mountain
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Ah I see

stone stump
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in university it is assumed that you can do all that stuff

grim mountain
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Yeah. I just began uni so all math is new to me

stone stump
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have you never had math at school?

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we learned fractions and all that stuff in grade 6

grim mountain
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Oh fractions I know. It’s the language barrier that confuses me

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I think

stone stump
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oh did you move to another country?

grim mountain
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No no. I’m from Sweden

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We don’t use English math words here

stone stump
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oh you mean it like that

grim mountain
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Also I’m multitasking with a project for a circuit haha

stone stump
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hmm I don't know about swedish. but I would assume that for the common stuff you can just google the english word, open wikipedia and then change the language to swedish

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or vice versa for that matter

grim mountain
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Yeah That works great

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Are you good with circuit?

stone stump
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what exactly do you mean?

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like electronics and stuff?

grim mountain
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Yeah

stone stump
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I only know the absolute basics. I doubt I could help

grim mountain
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Oh okay

stone stump
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haven't done that stuff in like a decade

grim mountain
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Ahh haha

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Maybe it’s not practical in work

stone stump
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probably is. just not relevant to anything I'm doing

grim mountain
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.close

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red helm
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Hello, i have a question regarding algebra

devout snowBOT
red helm
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I managed to find 2 eigenvalues for a transformation in R^3, how can i transform the matrix of this transformation to a diagonal matrix when i don’t have 3 eigenvalues to make an eigenbasis ?

stone stump
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well you can still sometimes find 2 linearly independent eigenvectors for the same eigenvalue

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think of the identity matrix. only has one eigenvalue (1) but still an eigenbasis

red helm
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Oh wow i see

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How can i find 2 linearly independent vectors ? Just through trial and error ?

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Or is there a general method ?

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@stone stump

stone stump
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well how do you find one

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find the kernel ker(A-lambda I)

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or rather, find a basis for it

red helm
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By setting the independent variables to any value and deducing the others

red helm
stone stump
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no

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det(A-lambda I)=0 is to find the eigenvalues

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ker(A-lambda I) is to find the eigenvectors after you found the eigenvalues

red helm
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Oh yes that’s what i meant

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So you just end up with a system

stone stump
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yes

red helm
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So yes i can then deduce infinity vectors

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But how can i efficiently find 2 linearly independent vectors like you said ?

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Just by setting the independent variables to different values and checking if the vectors are independent ?

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Because i’m only finding linearly dependant vectors @stone stump

stone stump
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are you sure that your matrix is diagonalizable?

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not all matrices are

red helm
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Yeah the question is to find it :/

stone stump
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can you show your work

red helm
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I can send you my work so far

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Sure

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Ok so this is the matrix of the transformation, it’s in french but you just need the matrix

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Engenvalues :

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And eigenbasis for the eigenvalues ( no idea how to say E2 and E4 in english )

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Tell me if anything needs translating @stone stump

stone stump
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E_2 and E_4 are called eigenspace

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for E_2 y can be anything

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y doesn't have to be 0

red helm
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Oh really ?

stone stump
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yes

red helm
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Why ?

stone stump
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0y is always 0

red helm
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Oh

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Daaamn

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So i can just chose ( (1,0,1), (1,1,1), (-1,3,1) ) as an eigenbasis of the M matrix ?

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@stone stump

stone stump
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yes

red helm
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Love you bro

stone stump
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I would choose (0,1,0) but whatever, still works