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I'll send everything in a minute
you can write 2^x as e^{ln(2) * x}
ik but its a show that question so i need to be specific on what steps i make
well you would say note that y = e^{ln(2) * x} (and maybe you can argue this)
Does it say you need to use implicit differentiation?
it is an implicit differentiation question and ive realised iove done no implicit differentiation
Looks implicit to me
Even though it was hard to follow the steps
The LN isn't written that way btw
You write it like this
$y = 2^x \ \
\ln(y) = x\ln(2)$
VulcanOne
yeah i kind of have a habiot of doing it in capital
Small letters and you put brackets to make it clear you are using natural log
Anyways you did that then you went and divided by ln(2)
Which doesn't matter anyways since it is a constant
Then you did
i differentiated but i forgot dy/dx i think
$\frac{1}{y\ln(2)} \cdot \dv{y}{x} = 1$
VulcanOne
yeah forgot that part
VulcanOne
Still works
Then at the end when you want dy/dx you divide dy by dx
On one side
Which is the part we all usually skip
oh i see
i could divide by (dy/dx) then (dx/dy)^-1=Dy/Dx so i just do ((yLn(2))^-1)^-1 and substitues y=2^x
thanks i really appreciate it 🙂
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Be careful because this might confuse you
Keep things simple
yeah but it makes more sense now
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First one is right
Correct
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right skewed
yeah right skewed seems right
well also bimodal quite possibly
not the smooth curve but the histogram
I would go bimodal
hard to say for sure though
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wait nvm I just realized it must be x = c
would I be correct on that assumption?
ye it has to be
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hello
i need help with a simplification of a formula i found in a research paper
First equation z¨ = (α / m) · (vw - z˙)^2 - g
Second equation: g = (α / m) · v^2eq
And it comes out....
one moment
filling in g in the first equation gives
z¨ = (α / m) · (vw - z˙)^2 - ((α / m) · v^2eq)
but from then on i qouldnt know what to do
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
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I've been considering a lot of sets and functions, but for any X, f, and g I think of, I can't seem to get g o f to be bijective
When I draw the domains/codomains/maps out, I usually find that the composition isn't injective
Here's a nice thread that might help https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/198379/example-where-f-circ-g-is-bijective-but-neither-f-nor-g-is-bijective
Let me have a look, thanks for the link!
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surely its much better to hint them towards an answer 😒
I generally agree with that but that post provides a ton of perspectives
Usually I'm the one doing !nosols xD
regardless, the original format really does indicate it wants the person to find it
example hunting is a v important skill to develop
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hi so i’m supposed to prove sqrt 3 is irrational
i did so in the picture i sent, but the part that throws me off is the last part mentioning 3j, 3j+1 and 3j+2? how do i prove it using that?
a can't be 3K, you said a is prime
Well in actuality you just need a and b coprime, so it's fine
wait so how should i rewrite that?
where a,b are COPRIME instead of PRIME
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾thank you
We just need a and b not to share any factors
👍🏾and the rest is good?
Nope
o
You get that b^2 = 3k^2, so 3 must be a factor of b (by the fundamental theorem of arithmetic), but we said a is also a multiple of 3. CONTRADICTION, a and b were supposed to be coprime
ahhhh yes i had to fix that one too
thank you very much
i might just go with this method cuz i have no clue what the 3j,3j+1,3j+2 thing is
The 3j, 3j + 1, 3j + 2 stuff idk what they are on about, don't think I've seen a proof like that, is j the imaginary unit?
That is by far the most convoluted way to do the same thing you did
I would also submit the classical proof which is the one you did
After fixing it though, it's key that they are coprime, e.g. share no factors, not prime
and thanks again for fixing that comprimé mistake
coprime* french keyboard autocorrect
FYI this is bannable
oh snap i did not know my bad
i will revise the rules rn
Yea if you can't explain the answer yourself just don't help
It's his own question btw, he asked the ai
wait i’m the one asking the question 😭
My bad
i was discussing an answer i got from it again tho my bad i have now revised the rules
It's still bannable though
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Where did my work go wrong? Work below
I'd recommend using the Quotient Rule rather than h substitution.
Which is f'g-g'f/g^2
oh i dont know how to do that yet so i assumed im not allowed to use it in this homework
I see
It says to use "the definition of derivative"
I'm aware
But I always ignored that and used the optimal rule when I was taking Cal 1
Some professors are different ig
okay, so can you guys explain what I did wrong then please?
Well the answer is supposed to be a fraction
Your numbers aren't necessarily incorrect, but somewhere along the way it looks like you disregarded that you're working with a denominator.
Try 9/v^2 + 81 or 9/(v+9)^2
how did the 9 get up there
the first one is wrong
and i assume the second would also be
You're missing a comma
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I am having a hard time with this for some reason,
so we use the chain rule for this where the outer (f(x)) is (x^3) and the inner (g(x)) is the quotient 1/5t +1
derivatives being 3x^2
i am drawing an awful blank on how to use the quotient rule, could someone help me get the derivative of the quotient
not trying to just look up the answer for it so wanted to actually work it out
or am I wrong to think we use the quotient rule to find the derivative?...
Unnecessary
,tex .exp rules
riemann
i dont see how those properly apply to this to find the derivative... maybe im just stupid idk...
Negative exponent
im still having a hard time seeing how thats used here...
maybe im just not understanding something
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I need help
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how to factorize this :
(x+1)(x+3)(x+5)(x+7)+15
long division not allowed
why is long division not allowed?
plus you could circumvent it anyway once you find a root
you could write (x+1)(x+3)(x+5)(x+7)+15 = (x-c)(Ax^3 + Bx^2 + Cx + D), where c is a known root, and equate coefficients
and in doing so you will accomplish the same thing as you would with long division
so why exactly is it prohibited? @deft pivot
because it is low grade math problem
it's high-grade enough for factorization to be a thing we know of, but it's low-grade enough that we have no access to long division?
i mean fuck i guess maybe write the thing as ((x+4)^2 - 1)((x+4)^2 - 9) + 15
then youll have an almost quadratic
no
oh its not even tru
x+3 = (x+4)-1, x+5 = (x+4)-1, x+1 = (x+4)-3, x+7 = (x+4)+3
yes yes
that i think is correct way
no do not be sarcastic
so that next?
then group these into pairs
((x+4)^2 - 1)((x+4)^2 - 9) + 15
and from then on, treat (x+4)^2 as a single indivisible unit
maybe give it a new name like t
unless that's also forbidden
in which case don't
you'll have (t-1)(t-9) + 15, a quadratic
this is good this is not forbidden
is thia correct ?
yes it is
tnx Ann
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Hi, is this correct?
-1 < x < 1 refers to the common ratio value
Could I just replace x with r then?
Btw I have another question. Is this correct?
I got 1 / -(x-1) instead
You did a calculation mistake
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how did the power magically get out 
yes
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Hello
I'm having trouble finding out where to start this set proof
If $A, B$ and $C$ are sets, then $A - (B \cap C) = (A - B) \cap (A-C)$
Ziggy
Ziggy
Venn diagrams ?
so any element in the left hand side?
so i can start with
$x\in C$ or $x \in B$ or $x \in A$
Ziggy
okay
then just move through the definitions?
but i dont really undrestand
what tha means?
$x \in (A-(B \cup C))$
where is x contained?
Ziggy
That is where you start yes
Ziggy
that should be intersection not union sorry
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pls help
!nosols
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you subtract 180?
look for a pair of alternate angles
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thx victor
helping someone isnt the same as giving out the answer tho
it is
It is i did the same one like 3 years ago
maybe 4
Can someone here help me ??? (help-2)
i did hte same thing victor did here but dosent work @boreal kernel
what did you get for b
again you can look for a pair of alternate angles
thats what im saying how do i solve for b what doi i do
look what taro said
ahhh
are you familiar with angle relationships?
i was going to subtract 180-125-30
oh ok
the one your focusing on is the alternate interior angles
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Hey
I ask about this one a few times but I am still super confused
- Draw the amounts in the complex plan (i did)
- Calculate A invert_b B
I dont know how to do the 2nd one
I just know that they touch each other in 1+i and 1-i from my drawing but i seriously do not know how to calculate it
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can someone help me figure out how to do this? so far ive made the new ln x and ln y table i even have the slope of 1/2 i did all this on desmos graphing but i can not figure it out after that point.
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can anyone give me a clue on how to prove that lnx< ( or equal ) x-1. f(x)=xe^-x. i found that f is increasing from 0,1 and increasing from 1 to + ♾️ but now i’m stuck
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Can I have some help, I need someone to check my work
I got u_t = k(u_rr - u_r/r) instead of with plus
My steps were that u_x = du/dr * dr/dx + du/dt dt/dx = du/dr * dr/dx = u_r * x/r, and similarly for u_y.
Then I got that u_xx = d/dr (u_r *x/r) * dr/dx + d/dt(u_r x/r) * dt/dx =
d/dr(u_r x/r) dr/dx = (u_rr * x/r + u_r(-x/r^2)) * x/r = (u_rr)(x^2/r^2) - (u_r)(x^2/r^3), and similarly u_yy = (u_rr)(y^2/r^2) - (u_r)(y^2/r^3), then adding together with the fact u_zz = 0:
u_t = k(u_xx + u_yy + u_zz) = k((u_rr)(x^2 + y^2)/r^2 - (u_r)(x^2 + y^2)/r^3) = k(u_rr - u_r/r).
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can you help me calculate the mass of the mcdonalds big mac please
look it up
bruh
i need to show how i work it out 😉
May 21, 2018 The un-cooked weight of a Big Mac® is 240g and is broken down as follows: Bun - 74g, Beef patty - 45g x 2 = 90g, Cheese -14g, Lettuce - 28g, Pickle - 2 x 3.5g =7g, Onion - 7g, Sauce - 20g.
so that's the uncooked formula
i need a cooked one
cocked*
anyways
so i need to know how the cocking affects the formula
@oak wraith
how is anybody realistically supposed to know that
maths
‘The weight of the final product will change due to the cooking process therefore we cannot declare a served weight’
stop throwing shade go buy some maccas and test yourself
It’s from google 💀
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the first one is correct
the second is incorrect and i am not sure why
if repsonding, pls ping, i am continuing after this question
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what does this want me to do I'm confused
which specific part/phrase there confuses you
the endpoints...
it gives the endpoints
then ask to find?
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may I have help on this?
I know the first one is wrong
why
why would it be wrong?
oh actually
it isn't the negative, the negtive isn't distributed
im not sure it said it was wrong on my first submission
It is wrong, because of the negative not being distributed in the -f(x)
so it would be the last one?
no
what is f(x+h)?
Hint: ||Your substituting (x+h) for x||
f(x) = 4x^2 + 3x - 5
f(x + h) is not the exact same thing
Your not substituting x+h for x, for example say we have 6x^2 +5x+9
We would substitute x+h for x, which would get us 6(x+h)^2 + 5(x+h) + 9
You've got f(x+h) now we need -f(x) which we already know
If you recall you were given f(x) = 4x^2 +3x - 5
yes yes
So if you connect the pieces together... what does a negative do to a number?
Well yeah but it can also be distributing, lets go back to our earlier example
We have f(x) = 6x^2 =5x+9, since we have a negative in front of f(x) we will get -(6x^2+5x+9)
Yeah its not a or d
If we go back here...
cause b doesnt make sense
(4x+4h)^2 does not equal to 4(x+h)^2
okay so then how on b did they get the 2 with the 2xh?
What is (x+h)^2
yeah so it will be B
Sure
okay one sec let me screen shot it
Ok
this is the next one
Hmm ok
i had variations with 5 and 4 instead of three but i stil got them incorrect
its the same concept no?
Yeah it is the same concept, but I have never experienced these kinds of problems.
ohhhh i see
I have only been taught the surface of the product quotient
would you like to see the other problem first?
Not the other variations
Sure
Ok, I know how to do these types
Okayyy
Same concept except we aren't given the x variable in f(2-h), we can just substitute 2 for x
okayyy
actually thats wrong
wait a minute let me try it out
okay!
I haven't done a problem that replaces the x variable in f(x+h) before
now that I think about it
ohhhh i see
the same principle applies
so where should i start exactly then?
exact same principle of functions
given f(x) = stuff
how do you get
f(thing)
replace all x in that equation with (thing)
soooo f(2+h)=5(2+h)-6?
yes
okay so what now?
use those expressions in your difference quotient and simplify
soooo f(2)=5(2)-6 -> 10-6 -> 4
f(2+h)=5(2+h)-6 -> 10+5h-6 -> 4+5h
sooooo 4+5h+4/h?
Remember -f(x)
sooooo 4+5h-4/h?
yup
soooo the answer is 5?
yeah
No, I was following along with the other one
ohhhh i see
But then again same principles are still applied here
I've kind of figured it out
okay so how exactly
Think about f(x) = 4x^2 if we did f(x) = (x+h)
We would do 4(x+h)^2 same thing here, we have j(x) = 3^(x-1)
If you look at it 3^(x-1) is similar to 4x^2
,tex j(x) = $ 3^{x-1}
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j(x) = $ 3^{x-1}
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hmmm okay
I had 3(x+h)^x-1 - (3^x-1) I maybe wrong though
Im working and improvising on the go
i see it just seems the answers given are weird
Yeah but they will start to make sense if we continue to go deeper
sort of with the first part now its just the second part
with the 3^h
i dont think its the one with just the 3^h but I could be wrong
due to the fact thats the type of answer I put the last two attempts
,tex it maybe $ 3^{x+h}{-1} $
Bingbing123
it maybe $ 3^{x+h}{-1} $
you mean b?
,tex it maybe $ 3^{(x+h)(-1)} $
Bingbing123
,tex I'm assuming that it is $ 3^{(x+h)(-1)} -3^{(x-1)} $
Bingbing123
for f(x+h) - f(x)
yeah i think so too but how do they get the h for the second part in the answers
Well we have to simplify this first to figure it out
I would rather not guess or critique the answer choices
For j(x) ?
for j(x+h) i think
I got this for j(x+h)
ohhhh i thought that was both
This is for both f(x+h) -f(x)
yeah
soooo like you said with the equation 3^(x+h)-1 -3^(x-1)/h
yeah
would 3 be distributed into h and make 3h?
yes
I got 3^h
for the second part?
Then again I maybe wrong
f(x+h)?
no f(x)
i think its either b or c
cause it cant be a cause of the 3^h by itself
and then not d because of the first part
ok
so i would think b because of the negative
Yeah thats what im thinking
okay so were on the same page
I gotta go and eat dinner
okayy thank youuu
Your welcome! You should use the helper ping
i got a 100 😄
Oh nice
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For this claim, I think I know how to prove the set part of it but not sure how to really start
I know "Let r be any factor of q" is for the end
So I don't need that right now
but how do I use "Let p and q be positive integers that are relatively prime"
Should I just start with the $x\in\mathbb{Z}$ stuff
42
is r . p multiply?
yea
sorry no idea how to solve that, I understood, but idk how
yeah all g
i think i know how to do all that but the relatively prime thing is confusing me
ill try proving it normally and see how to add the prime thing
they said that to not create a contradiction, cuz p | x , and q | x , it would be kp = k'q , ((k,k') from Z), so making them relatively prime prevent the equqlity of k and k', thus the eqhqlity of p and q.
okay let me see how if u make it
I'm curious
ah i see why they did that
i got to this
where pk = qf where l,f are ints
yeah its literally a first year course man
its so hard
its our 2nd problem set
wait
but if i get there right
pk = qf
wait nvm idk
they dont have any common factors
so that has to come in this step i think
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yes exactly
this is waht my ta said
hmmm
I don't know how to use real numbers in that question
they are ints
no, i wouldnt be this stupid
i actually didnt know what that was until i searched it up lol
lmfao haha
nah idk
i like 42 as a number
just looks nice
yeha im still stuck at the same spot
oh not real numbers
is ok
😔
yeah i dont know
ill save it for tomorrow
nvm i need to finish it now
<@&286206848099549185> i need some extra help
nvm ig
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👋 Hey, I was wondering if someone would be able to help me create an calculation?
I'm currently attempting to create an easy calculation for sizing different blocks in a 2d space.
So lets say there is a floor, the dimensions of that floor are 10 units length wise
Lets say also there are 5 pillars, now I need to create a way to calculate how large the pillars should be length wise so that the pillars would be evenly spaced apart by n.
So for example:
Lets just use the 5 pillars, on a 10 unit long floor and I want 1 (our n value) to be the space between them. So how would I calculate how long the 5 pillars should be?
Do the pillars touch the edges, or do you have equal spacing from the pillars to the edges too?
The pillars touch the edges
So you have 5 pillars and 4 gaps
It would help if you drew a diagram both for us to see and to help you work it out
so with pillar length p and gap length g, you would have 5p + 4g = 10
so these are the original lines
then i need to figure out
how large they should be
so that the gap would be n units
for example 1 unit
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I need help with both A and B
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
What did you get
9:1
And how did you arrive at that
Hmm it should be correct, did they say anything about the order?
nope
For surface area right?
yes
Try 1:9 perhaps they want it the other way
alright
no
oh ye!!!
for both question iii and iv, which ratio are they talking about?
1:9 to find the surface area and 1:27 to find the volume, right?
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is this correct
show your reasoning
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hii
We look at the line in the complex system which is between z1 and z2. The line is now deformed in the following way: The line is scaled with a factor of 8, and rotated against the click around origo with an angle of 0.5. At last the deformed piece is paralellel offset with the vector (3,2)
Give the complex numbers w1 and 21 which make up the ends of the deformed line. The complex number closest to origo is w1
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if this is the formula for nth root of complex numbers
if i want to find the roots of 1 , i should be able to plug in for tetha 0, 2pi, 4pi.... right?
if i use tetha zero, the first root with k=0 would be 1.
but if i use tetha 2pi i would get a different result...
Any of them would work
You'd get the same roots just in a different order
Usually you go with the smallest non-negative
If you use all of the possibilities (0, 2π, 4π, etc) instead of just one, you don't even need the +2kπ part to find all the roots
you're right i was making an error later and i got wrong values ;D
ok thanks a lot!
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true, that's the point of having +2pi XD
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how do i solve this
figure out where the function slopes up
and give the x values that define the range where the function move upwards
-1 and 1
?
At x = -1, we see the function is at y = 1
At x = 1, we see the function is at y = -1
y goes from 1 to -1 so its decreasing there
that interval is not what we are looking for
the function should go up (y should increase proportionally to x)
how do i display that
what do you mean
you find where it goes up then input the x values in interval notation
should I break it down more?
well the highest it goes is 1 and the lowest is -1
otherwise idk how to find where it goes
I mean locally
when x is between -3 and -1: the slope is positive, the y value increases, our line goes up
when x is between -1 and 1: the slope is negative, the y value decreases, our line goes down
when x is between 1 and 3: the slope is positive, the y value increases, our line goes up
What do you not understand exactly?
so how do i communicate in interval notation that this is whats happening
do you know how to do interval notation?
kind of. (a,b). i understand that a is lower bound and b is upper but i dont really understand what bound means
interval notation is a way to describe a value that can be anywhere between two numbers
for example, an interval notation of (a, b) for value x means
that x can be anything between a and b except for a and b themselves
x for (1, 4) means x can be 1.0001, 1.002, 2.383, 3.5848, 3.9999 and all the values in between
using square brackets instead of parenthesis - [3, 4] instead of (3, 4) includes those "bound" values as possible x values
x for [1, 4] means x can be exactly 1, 1.009, 2.113, 3.8, 3.9999, exactly 4 and all the values in between
do you get it or should I explain more?
no- we dont assume the function is increasing into infinity unless the question states so
past -3 and the function might curve down and past 3 the function might also curve down
so we only give intervals based on what we see on the graph
so we..input the x values?
the x values are -1 and 1
those are the y values
the y values range between -1 and 1
the x values' domain is between -3 and 3
so we see the function increase when x is between the numbers -3 and -1
we also see the increase between 1 and 3
how do we describe that with an interval?
(-3,-1) and (1,3)?
do we include these values as part of the intervals though?
is the function increasing at x=-3, x=-1 x=1, and x=3?
it increases and then decreases
so this answer is correct
its not
(-3, -1), (1, 3) is different from (-3, -1) ∪ (1, 3)
(-3, -1) ∪ (1, 3) means to include all values in either bound
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If x+y=4 and xy+6z=z^2+13, find x+y+z
so like
no specifics if they're integers
otherwise z would've immediately been equal to 3
but
how to find answer '<'
the thing is my only answer is 7 because I assumed z to be an integer(ikr, doesn't make sense) and (answer keys haven't been given to us because of data privacy thing)
so I can't check
Maybe it could be integer
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The question is asking to sketch the limit and I am confused on how it would look like.
This is what I have currently, I don't know if it is correct
I'm mainly confused about lim x approaching infinity f(x) = infinity as well as lim x approaching negative infinity f(x) = negative infinity
You can't exactly go to infinity on a graph. x goes to infinity means that x is somewhere on the rightmost part of x-axis on graph. y being infinity means that y is somewhere on the topmost part of the y-axis on the graph. So, show a line going to topmost tight corner.
Similarly for negative infinity part.
oh so would it look this then?
would that also affect the curved line in the middle?
As long as that last curve in the rightmost part is going upward.
No.
oh, so the first picture was wrong because the rightmost part was going downwards and the seconds picture is correct because the rightmost part is now going upwards ?
Yes
Can i ask one more question
Of course.
what does it mean by "f is odd"?
where the graph of an odd function has rotational symmetry with respect to the origin, meaning that its graph remains unchanged after a rotation of 180 degrees (or pi radians) about the origin.
so if this is my original graph:
then it will change to.
is that what you mean? Also what would the function being even, mean then?
Is the original graph just this much?
How are you getting the middle part then?
For this picture I forgot the point at (0,0), and I didn't draw the up because I didn't know what "f is odd" meant.
The original was only this much, without "f is odd"
then Prime said : where the graph of an odd function has rotational symmetry with respect to the origin, meaning that its graph remains unchanged after a rotation of 180 degrees (or pi radians) about the origin.
then I got this image
Yeah. That's correct.
An even function means that f(x) = f(-x).
Which means that it is symmetric about y-axis.
so something like this?
oh so something like this? then how would it be different an odd function, I'm confused now.
Yes
If it was an odd function, your line would have continued like a straight line in 3rd quadrant.
See. It's important that you use these definitions to understand this properly.
Odd functions are such functions where f(-x) = -f(x).
Even functions are such functions that f(-x) = f(x)
sorry about this can i ask one more question, if you have the time
Sure.
You don't have to worry about asking me more questions. Ask as many as you need.
ok, so I'm confused about these 3 parts?
so I understand that there will be a hole at (3,4)
Yes.
You draw graph in such a manner that on the left side of 3, its y values are reaching 1.
would it be something like this?
or do we not use the dot?
No.
Come on. y values are reaching 1 when x reaches 3 from the left side.
Your y is reaching 4 when x reaches 3.
Yeah. This works.
It doesn't have to be a straight line.
Should just be reaching (3,1).
ok since I got that down, if I was given something like (it going to take a some time to draw this)
would 10 be something like this?
if it doesn't have to be a straight line, then what does that imply?
You drew an almost parallel to x-axis line for that one. I was saying that it could have taken any route.
This isn't even a function.
See for yourself. Does it pass the vertical line test?
no it doesn't
So, it's clearly wrong.
I don't know how to express this properly is there any suggestion?
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how can i make this limit work, can someone break it down for me?
Expand everything
Collect like terms
When it comes to derivative limits, you just gotta expand everything
Alternatively, you can do the limit for x^2, -2x, and 1
And add them all up if that makes it nicer
we havent covered derivatives yet
and wdym by this
I mean the limit you're doing is the literal mathematical defintion for the derivative. I'm just calling it the "derivative limit"
You're familiar with the algebraic limit theorem, right?
$\lim (f + g + h + ...) = \lim f + \lim g + \lim h + ...$
Umbraleviathan
At least for addition
So when you have to do the derivative limit for x^2 - 2x + 1
You can just take the derivative limit for x^2, -2x, and 1 separately and then add them up
So Gimmie a sec
$\lim_{\Delta x \to 0} \frac{(x+\Delta x)^2 - x^2}{\Delta x} + \lim_{\Delta x \to 0}\frac{-2(x+\Delta x) + 2x}{\Delta x} + \lim_{\Delta x \to 0} \frac{1 - 1}{\Delta x}$
Umbraleviathan
And now you got 3 bite-sized limits
Are you sure this isn't familiar?
no ive never seen it
iirc he said he werent allowed to use derivatives or l'hopitals since we hadnt learned them
They're not L'Hopitals or derivative tricks
It's just algebraic properties of limits
this is the closest one i see
Oh I mean if the limit for f(x) is L and limit for g(x) is K
Then yeah
Same thing
so its the same idea as what you showed above?
Yeah
going back to this you would be left with delx^2-2delx+2, right?
There shouldn't be any deltas
so is it xdelx
Yes
so i end up with x^2+delx^2+2xdelx-2x-2delx+1-x^2+2x+1
combining like terms i get delx^2+2xdelx-2delx+2
all i end up with is deltas
Split the fraction up into different terms
$\frac{a+b}{c} = \frac{a}{c} + \frac{b}{c}$
Umbraleviathan
So after combining terms, just break it all up
i feel like that doesnt change the fact that im left with is deltas which you said shouldnt happen
Well delta x should cancel out
The numerator should only have terms with a delta X in it
so its ok to deltas in numerator after expanding and combining like terms?
Well yeah in fact, if you did it correctly, all terms in the numerator should have delta x as a factor
Show me what you did for the numerator
i dont know how to use the commands
Mmhm
i forgot to distribute the negative to the 1
wait what about the 2xdelxx
That stays
Yes
so im cancelling out the delx in the denominator using the delx^2 in num, which puts me at delx+2xdelx-2delx = 2xdelx-delx
That doesn't sound right
yeah i thought so
Show me the work again
i was gonna try cancelling out the denominator
is that a bad idea, im just tryna avoid /0
Cancel out delta x
using the -2delx or the delx^2
You legit just cancel out common factors

