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well yes, for 2x2
so if we had
for 3x3 and above its more complicated
wait
does it have to do with the
well cant write it out but
maybe you understand what I mean
oh yes
does it have to do with that?
is that why b and c gets minus? 🤔
its fine i'll look at our material later
but for the tedious approach
pretty sure yes
same things happen to 3x3 matrix
im looking for the wiki page explaining why xD
wdym by this?
the equation is right yeh
i mean we do X*B
and not A*X
is it right so far then?
then I would end up with this
matrix multiplication is associative so either order is fine
and I think this is the part that well.. I dont really know how to proceed from
i was not expecting this method
well
it's not optimal i know
but I feel like it should work
but how do I set up the equation system from here?
up to here was good
since X is a 2x2 matrix, shouldnt there be 4 different values? why only 2?
yes that is the part im a bit confused around
'
but this is from our teachers video
where he says X = x1,x2,x3
LOL
but vectors can take on the form of rows in matrixes no?
or let me clarify it doesn't say
yes pls
I just assume it's a vector because that's what I figured from the screenshot above
wait i just realised
or you mean the X in the question AXB=BA or the X from the screenshot
yeah it just says solve the equation AXB=BA
but I think vectors are equivalent to matrixes according to our learnings
because you just put in the vector as a row in a matrix
vectors are 1 dimensional matrices
yeah that sounds about right
alr. so the method (which you said was in the solution) is to solve it using: X = (A^)BA(B^)
you compute A^ and B^ and use those to calculate X
yes that is indeed the smart way but i ain't the smartest tool in the shed so sometimes I like to walk the long path to see if it works anyway
^ - inverse
valid
but shouldn't this approach work too?
it's good tho. at least you're learning WHY a method is better
we know that there are an X1 and X2 that gives the output matrix
yeah that's kinda my thinking as well
X is not a vector. its a 2x2 matrix
so there are 4 values u need to calculate
oh
but
how do u know that
because like from the screenshot above
or does it have to do with the fact that the RHS is a 2x2 matrix?
yes
all the other matrices are 2x2
multiplying square matrices together always gives square matrices
yes but we can also multiply a matrix that's 2x1 with a 2x2 and get a 2x2 output no?
ye exactly
output is not 2x2
rows from the first and columns from second
so if it's 2x1 (not 1x2 as i originally wrote) and the other 2x2 then output should be 2x2 no?
but then you're saying that we should have like
x1 x2
x3 x4
as the matrix for X
2x1 has 1 column. 2x2 has 2 rows. incompatible multiplication
yes that's the idea. but thats long
it would work tho. if the equations are simple then it might be fast
just wondering how to set it up
ill show u screenshot in a sec
ok
got it
so now
what would the equation system look like?
is it
x1+2x2+2x3+4x4 = 1
etc
column 1 row 1 is equal to the corresponding content of the other?
because this is what we've gone through before
but here you get two 3x1 matrixes
yes each element is equal to the corresponding element of the other matrix
ye this is right
so then I instantly get x4 = 3
yep
-5
x1 = 7
so would the answer then be that I write the matrix X with the values of x1 x2 x3 x4 in their respective position I guess?
yep
exactly
yep that checks out
we got there in the end
HAHa ty
god bless you 🥹 ❤️
i do not recommend this method tho ^
no i will remember the other one but
please use inverse matrices. so much faster
in the case of an emergency where the brain decides to turn off
it's good to know that this one exist
fair enough
have you learnt it yet?
ah it's not that simple unfortunately
yes
💀
yeh it's just weird to memorise
no but it is the +- thing
4x4 is painful
yeh have fun with that. i definitely did NOT
although for the determinants i usually just continue on the diagonals
for the 2x2 and 3x3 case that is
but I think it's a preference thing
yeh whatever works for you man. there are so many methods for inverting 3x3 matrices anyway
nonetheless, time to blast on with the questions, thank you a ton and maybe you will see me crying in another channel later on confused XD
have a nice evening/day!
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so i have to calculate this,english is not my main language sorry,in the book the answer is 41 but i got 45
the [] is the int part of the number
and {} is the fractionary part of the number
and i got that 44*44=1936
and 45*45=2025
so rad of 2022 is 44.something
int part of it is 44
the other one is -4*-0.25 which is 1
did i do something wrong?
wait
fraction part of -ve numbers
are calculated differently
fraction part of 0.4 if 0.4
but fraction part of -0.4 will with 1-(fraction part of 0.4) that is 0.6
so will it be 0.75?
yes
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Anyone have ideas on where to start in order to solve for R here?
The two smaller circles are equal size
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does the left circle pass through the origin?
is the right circle centered on the x-axis?
A good start is to connect the centers of tangent circles
And look for the right triangles
You can then build a system of equations and solve for a positive R
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No, the left circle doesnt pass through the origin, the bottom of the left circle is sat atop the x axis
The right circle is centered on the x axis however
see kreshank msgs then
though i will point out all that info would have been nice to have at the start
Where would I find this
I’m not familiarized with the terminology you are using
the messages from the guy named kreshank
The three small circles in the middle are also tangent
I think you got it from here, it'll get rid of t1 and t2
Yep
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Set of edges and vertices of a digraph how
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isn't a digraph just a directed graph? it is clearly directed
wdym
is a digraph
what is your question?
does it say "explain why the following graph is considered a digraph"?
I want find set edges , vertex and relation
Yes and why is a digraph
it is a digraph because it is a set of vertices with directed edges, I'd say
and how i can find set\
My answered is;
El conjunto de vertice es V = {c , d , e , a , f}
El conjunto de arista E = {(c,f),(d,e),(c,d),(a,f)}
El contunjunto de relacion es ; R = {(c,f),(d,e),(e,d),(c,d),(a,f)}
Im alright?
(e, d) is also an edge
Relation set and edge set are same?
thx
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Let A and B be sets defined in a Universe U. Using the properties of sets, show that
(I tried to apply the properties of the sets but this bar stating that it is the complementary set confused me a lot)
do they allow truth tables or is it strictly rewrite?
i believe it is strictly rewrite as it is about set theory according to the book
if im seeing it correctly, im guessing what they want you to do is show that both sides are subsets of each other
(which proves that they are in fact equal)
but I can try to do it using the truth table
yep
I would work with the rewrite if thats what they want
I'd say, this seems to want a rewrite as well
I would recommend breaking up the big expression into parts that can be more easily managed
leaving the complement for the end
Also, I've never seen a bar for complement before??
yeah im used to the bar, but sometimes its a '
some also have it like this lol
which is more cursed imo
I've also seen $$A^C$$
Sehtnar
I've always used the bar for the closure of a set
so I would start by making A intersect B?
sorry if my english is bad english is my secondary language
Not sure what you mean by that
Okay so basically
it looks like the first two terms are disjoint
which leaves you with the 3rd term with a complement, where you can then use demorgans law to get the same thing
You got it?
btw do you have some pdf or youtube video recomendation about sets?
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So I've been thinking about using the residue theorem to try to calculate the gamma function but it's been a bit tricky
As for my steps
since the gamma function is $\int_0^\infty t^{z-1} e^{-t} dt$ it's a bit interesting
I've been thinking about trying to convert it into an integral of the form $\int_{-\infty}^\infty$but I'm not sure if there's a good way to do that
I don't mind if there really isn't a good answer but it's just fun to explore
Corobo
There's also probably a much easier way to construct a contour in the first quadrant of the plane instead but I'm a bit tired so I don't remember if there are any that would be applicable to something like this at the moment
Upon rereading my message there wouldn't be any even functions because the domain is over t where e^-t isn't even or odd
But it also makes me wonder if you can even convert it into the other integral form to begin with because it would surely imply that there would be residues for positive integers as an example, when there clearly aren't any
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what are the poles of t^(z-1)e^(-t)
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Well when Re(z) < 1 there are poles at t = 0 I believe
of what order
It would depend on the value of z
how do you plan on using the residue theorem then?
I'm pretty sure they would all be simple poles
you can try integrating like t^(z-1)e^(-t)
over a half-semi-circular contour of radius R, and hope that when you limit R to infinity the circle arc contour integral vanishes, which would leave you with that the integral from 0 to inf of t^(z-1)e^(-t) = the residues included in Q1
but you'd have to know what the residues in Q1 are
and how to compute them
and it would actually require the arc contour integral to vanish
which I haven't tested
I mean for simple poles and a function like this the residue at z_0 would just be t^-z_0 e^-t/(1-z_0) iirc
Then again though
Actually
The arc contour integral might not be able to vanish just by contradiction
Since if it did vanish, then the contour integral encasing some open connected domain D in Q1 with no singularities in D would be non-zero
which contradicts residue theorem
since theoretically all poles should be at 0 which would not be in D
huh
Thanks 
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I never said by contradiction?
i misspoke
I meant i thought maybe it could be able to be shown to not vanish by contradiction
We do want it to vanish though
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yea
hoping the greens vanish
yea thats what im thinking
as R->inf
if so , then your integral is the sum of the residues contained in Q1
But if any poles will lie at 0 then since the inside of R doesn't contain any poles they must not vanish
yea
the poles are at the origin
it's holomorphic in the interior
oh I guess the poles are not in the interior
is that your point
yea thats what i mean
hmm
This seems impossible
The best estimate I can reach is that the residue of the function at 0 appears to be (-1)^z * Gamma(1-z)
But since that's not the same as the actual value it's safe to assume that the curved contour doesn't vanish
So I'm gonna assume that it's impossible
Thanks for the help ^-^
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Hi, how can i find the derivative of a function such as this? its an f(x,y) function and i have some variables that i could control to change the look of the wave (w for frequency and R for rotation)
im gonna be using the derivative to find the tangent, binormal, and normal of a point on the surface
we want the derivative
this function looks pretty smooth
i reckon it's differentiable
so for surfaces, the derivative is not a line, but a plane
instead of a tangent line we get a tangent plane
right
do you know any linear algebra?
yes
the tangent plane is just the jacobian of f at the point you want your tangent plane
well
it's the linear approximation to f
so $g(\mathbf x) = f(\mathbf a) + J_f(\mathbf a)(\mathbf x - \mathbf a)$
Frosst
thisll be an approximation?
this is just multidimensional taylor's approximation to your function
but truncated at the linear term
the next term would have the hessian of f
but we want a linear approximation (tangent plane) not a quadratic approximation (tangent paraboloid)
so we just stop at the jacobian and boom there you go, that's your linear approximate to the surface at the point a
and that approximation is precisely the tangent plane to the surface
just like how g(x) = f(a) + f'(a)(x-a) is exactly the tangent line of f at point a
what does jacobian mean? sorry im not so familiar with math terms in english
this is the n-dimension equivalent
the jacobian has all the partials
he looks like this
if f is only single valued (a scalar function, which your surface would be)
then it's just a row of all the partials
for example, let $f(x, y) = xy^2 + x$, then $\newline \mathbf J_f(a, b) = \left.\left(\pdv{xy^2+x}{x} \qquad \pdv{xy^2+x}{y}\right)\right|{(x, y) = (a, b)} \newline = \left.\left(y^2+1\qquad x\right)\right|{(x,y)=(a,b)} = \left(b^2+1 \qquad a\right)$
Frosst
i honestly dont understand much of these, i feel like its such an advanced solution
is there no other simpler way?
oh
pretty much this is saying
how much does f change in the x direction
how much does y change in the y direction
now make a plane out of this
ill take some time to grasp it but ill give it a try, in the meanwhile i think ill just close off this channel
thanks so much for the help!
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I'm doing this and I tried to use the identity $\sin^2(x)+\cos^2(x)=1$ but nothing so far
programme
wait what if i haven't done derivatives yet
oh then how....
is there a way to solve this using pure limits?
i think it's 0 after some calculations
i might be wrong but
$\cos^2(x)-1=(\cos(x)+1)(\cos(x)-1)$
programme
no it is 0 let me keep goign
Won't help
programme
true
will this help?
not really
why not though
you still end up with (cos(0)-1)/0
have you learnt sandwich theorem or squeeze theorem?
squeeze yeah
oh okay
you can use that
-1<cos(x)^2-1)<2
divide by x
then you can say both bounds diverge to 0 as 1/x should be a standard limit
im incorrecnt
ah maybe i do need lhopital
i cant find a way besides l'hopital
ah okay thanks man
soz
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,rotate
Hey
So basically we have to prove $tan(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)=1$
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sorry i had to do something
Sure, look and see if u follow
We have to prove this
Yes
not two for tan(a+b)
But we have three equation
If you simply, everything will come in terms of the three equation u wrote
@winged jungle
Tan(a+b+c)
bruh
First split it into tan( (a+b) + c )
Then split the tan (a+b) ?
Bruh, simplify using the formula
Like this
$\frac{tan(a+b)+tanc}{1-tan(a+b)tanc}$
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the rectangular hyberbola y=a/x +k passes through (2,7) and (-1,1) find a and k. i dont know why i am having trouble with this, but i must be making errors in my working out. i have put it through chatgpt and mathgpt and photomath and everything and somehow each one gives me a different answer, any help and explanation of working out would be insanely appreciated
um
you have the equation
with two unknown variables
and you have two points where the hyperbola passes
that means those points satisfy the curve
so put them in the equation
i know you substitute the values in and then subtract them to find a then k, but then thats where i get stuck
so i have 14= a+k - 1 =a+k, which then cancels out both a and k and i cant find either
let me check
when u put 2,7
and multiplied by 2 on both sides
it will be different equation then the one u wrote
well i was thinking firstly you would do 7=a/2+k and then for the other 1=a/-1 +k
then once u have done that with the substitution you subtract one from the other which gives you the a value, but from my working out a + k both get cancelled
do you get what i mean
yes but
you have 7=a/2+k right?
now multiply both side by 2
you will get 14=a+2k
check you equation and solve properly
yeah thats what i mean, after putting getting rid of the 2 i had 14, then its 14-1 = nothing because both a+k from the previous cancel out
alright, so for (2,7) , it is 7=a/2 +k which then you multiply by 2 to get it to the other side making 14=a+k, then for (-1,1), it is 1=a/-1 +k which you multiply the -1 to the other side to get -1=a+k, then this is where i get stuck
thats the solving
see the first equation
7=a/2+k
after multiplying by 2
it will become 14=a+2k
can you see the 2k?
again for second equation
ohhh
alright
wrong
?
k is not 13
2k-k=k no?
check the second equation
wait what
what did u get
yes
this is what i had:
14= a +2k
-1 = a +- k
a gets cancelled
13= k
u would be right though
so you multiplied bottom equation by -1?
are you adding the equations or subtracting them?
subtracting
@warm nacelle he just noticed that both equations have 1 a in them so if you subtract the equations you remove a
Thus giving you an equation with just k in it
yeah
then you solve for k, and after solve for a
14 - (-1) = a+2k - a -(-k)
i know, i am correcting his mistake by himself
i can write the solution but he wont see where was he going wrong
oh its double negativeeee
thats where i mainly have gone wrong
if you are subtrating then u multiply all the terms by -1
alright so k =5 and a =4
Yep
thats my final answer
yes
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need help with (iii)
Q=(1,-1)
eq of tangent = y=3x-4
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do you know integrals?
split it into two halves
wait but if i integrate like that wont i only get the area above the x axis
normally you do integral of (top curve) - (bottom curve)
you didn't split it into two halves like i said
the red part is different than the blue part
they have different bottom curves
i think im js bad at math i still couldnt get it
let's walk through it
for the red region, do you see how the line doesn't matter at all?
the top bound is that x ^ 3/2 curve, but what's the bottom bound?
3x-4
y = 3x - 4 is the straight line, but the red region doesn't go down to where that line is
well... that will get you the region above the x axis
the bottom bound for that red region is y = - x^3/2
yeah
alr then how do we integrate the blue part
what are the upper and lower curves for that region?
x^3/2 is the upper and 3x-4 is the lower
like this?
yep perfect
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i’m not sure how to tackle it
i even checked the marck scheme after being stuck for a long time and i still didn’t understand it
,rccw
opposite angles are supplemtary
so 180-48
yeah
so the exterior angle intercepts 2 arcs
you know the measure of the exterior angle and one of the intercepted arcs
use that
36
how do we know that
twv
i might’ve called it the wrong thing but it’s the angle outside the circle that’s given
tvw
angle twv is given in the problem
look at the diagram it’s already there
36 degrees
yes
how do we do that?
don’t exactly remember the theorem name but basically if a tangent and a secant intercept 2 arcs the outside angle is the average of the difference between the 2 arcs
lowk i don’t rlly understand that
so in this case it would be:
36 = (far arc - near arc)/2
subtract the arc nearest to the outside angle from the arc further away
and divide the difference but 2
that’s the wrong arc
oh wait
arc TV is the nearest arc
arc UT is the further arc
yup
UT - TV
we have the value of UT and we know the exterior angle
so we only have one unknown with one equation which we can solve
36 = (UT - TV)/2
how do we have the value of uT?
the value of an inscribed angle is half of its intercepted arc.
which inscribed angle intercepts arc UT
bro icl im not following at all
now
this is the mark scheme given
and i’m not rlly following to both what u said and it
ok lemme try again
alr
we have the inscribed angle UVT which is 48
yes
because it intercepts arc UT, arc UT is 96 because the intercepted arc is double the inscribed angle
u follow?
ok so now let’s talk about the exterior angle
we know that angle TWV is 36 degrees
yup
and the angle intercepts arc TV and UT
the arcs that are within the 2 lines basically are what the angle intercepts
yes
got that?
yes
one sec
right
we also know that (UT - TV)/2 = 36
yes
and we know UT = 96
yes
so then our equation is 36 = (96 - UT)/2
so tv = 24
yes
right
so now what’s A
12?
yup
yes
yeah dw bout it
appreciate it
i got a c on this unit a couple months back so it’s good to help someone out
oh wrd
get to practice for the math final
yh i’m cooked on circle theorems and stuff
yup
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can anybody help me prove this:
if f(t) = Si(t), the Laplace transform {Si(t)} = 1/s arctan (1/s)
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Can someone help me with this one ?
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Hi could someone help me with this problem? The main thing I don't get it how I get the slopes of -2, -1, 6, 8
Me pls
Can I help
Yes ofc!
Kk
Yes
Those slopes are obtained from seeing where on the graph there is a horizontal slope
So at -1 and 2?
Well at 6 it is also 0
Oh yeah, it isnt a max or min
Correct
Since the graph is f'(x) and not f(x) you look at where it is changing from negative to positive or positive to negative for a rel min/max
Yup so -1 and 2
Yeah
And then -1 is a rel. max and 2 a rel. min
But then if I do the candidates test where do I get the f(x) of all the options + endpoints
Oh you integrate
Find the area
OHH wait wait but how is f(-2) = 3
Im sorry if that sounds dumb im just hella confused
You would add these
Aha, so then were doing integral from -2 to 0 right
and for f(1) from 1 to 0 okay
me too
hell yeah
also i believe there's a more better method for these problems so let me show you
Since we know what f(2) equals
What we can do is this
I'm going to draw the integral because I don't know how to use the bot
@burnt dragon
Hey come back
aa
ohh
okay
so then
OHHH
OH I SEE IT OKAY
intgr from -2 to 2 is 4
no sorry
-3*
Both attempts are wrong
Close, -2
okay
Yes
there we go
So now try for 8
Not quite.
nah thats gotta be wrong
This time you are going to the right
are the 2 and 8 on the integral flipped
yess
and then that's
wait i forgot how to take the are under the semicircle
one sec
Think outside the box
.
Don't worry about the circle
Think outside the box
Box
Ok uh doesn't seem like u get my hint
Yes!
OHHH LMAO
I was about to send this
over 2
yes
Good
from f(2)
11 - 2pi
YEAHHH WE GETTING SOMEWHERE
okay and the same thing for x=6 right
Seems about right
Yes
okay oh my god it finally makes sense
Yeah it does
you are such an absolute god I hope you know that
like i would NOT have gotten that otherwise
okay everything else makes sense now
tysm dude, can I add you btw since were both taking the ap exam?
Yeah sure
Do you want to continue doing frq practice
I want to prep for exam too
Yeah fs, ill finish this one up, do you want me to share the link im using?
Im just doing the 2023 ones
Sure
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On the line a, these points are added
n≥2
What is the natural number n equal to, knowing that the n points determine
A) 28 rays
B) 28 segments
what have you tried so far
for a) it might help trying smaller values of n and seeing how many rays there
Looking at smaller numbers can sometimes help
not quite for n=2
Wait what
Uh 6?
do you see the pattern
yeah
lets say you look at the first point on the line
how many segments are ther connecting this
1
how many segments are there connecting the first point to any other point
1
It's wrong isn't it
what about this segment
2 segments