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modest plinth
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Anyone know where lm going wrong?

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modest plinth
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Trying tó Find A

lean willow
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How did fore last step rhs become positive

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,w sin(80°)/8.69

clever fjordBOT
lean willow
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Why did u write it as a negative

modest plinth
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Just pretend it's negative it doesn't matter

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I used radians instead of degrees by accident

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Help 😦

glass trench
modest plinth
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I used radians instead of degrees

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either way the answer is roughly 0.98 + or -

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i checked

glass trench
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80 radians is not 80 degrees

modest plinth
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and when i put arcsin in the calculator it comes out the same as the initial input

glass trench
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,w 5*sin(80 degrees)/8.67

modest plinth
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sin80 radians is 0.99

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sin80 degrees is 0.98

glass trench
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so like

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this is a different answer

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just use the right unit

modest plinth
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I did like I said

glass trench
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ok so i have .5679

glass trench
modest plinth
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ok hold on

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u get sinA = 0.567?

glass trench
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how'd you get sinA=0.022

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what was the calculation

modest plinth
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bruh

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I divided by 5 instead of multiplying

glass trench
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bruh

modest plinth
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I can't do math cause i keep doing rshit like this

glass trench
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ok well yeah tahts what you did wrong then

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but also

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stick to the correct units

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it happened to work this time

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but it usually doesnt

modest plinth
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well first I realised i had the wrong units

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so I went back and tried with the correct ones

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and got the same mistake

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it was like a red herring in a way

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so yea

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google for some reason always prefers radians, should use a diff calc

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thanks for the help though

glass trench
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instead of radians

modest plinth
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i know

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but i have to do it every time

glass trench
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then use wolfram

modest plinth
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yea will do ty

glass trench
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np

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how are you supposed to solve this? the way i solved it is making two variables, a and b and a being the volume of the positive portions and b being the negative portions, then i setup the equations a-b=3 and a+b=13 and then solved for b and got 5, and the answer is -5 because its gotta be negative. my question is, is this the way your supposed to do it? Also why did i not get -5

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rigid bramble
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It’s really the same thing either way, it’s just about whether you decide to take whether b is positive or negative into account before solving or not

brisk dew
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gotcha that makes sense

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thanks

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No problem :)

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languid oar
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how do I do this question?

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rigid bramble
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There are a couple of ways of going about it

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Let me try to answer your question with a question: what do the factors tell you about the roots of the equation?

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For example, if x - 3 is a factor, what information does that give us about one of the roots?

languid oar
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one of the roots is 3

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and the other is -5

rigid bramble
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Yup

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And what does the root of a polynomial mean?

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What would happen if you plugged a root into a polynomial?

languid oar
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it'd equal to zero

rigid bramble
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Perfect!

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Try to use that fact to solve it

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If you’re still stuck, let me know

languid oar
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I don't understand

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how does knowing 2 of the roots help in this situation?

rigid bramble
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Because

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If you plug them into the cubic

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It’ll be equal to 0

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Right?

languid oar
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yes

rigid bramble
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Do that for 3 and -5

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And see what happens

languid oar
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oh

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simultaneous equations?

rigid bramble
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Yes!

languid oar
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ahhhhh I see

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thank you

rigid bramble
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Another way of doing it would be dividing (x-3)(x+5) into the cubic using polynomial long division, and since you know that’ll divide evenly, you can let the remainders equal 0

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It’s a bit more work but that’s another possibility

languid oar
rigid bramble
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Yeah exactly

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But it’s nice to kinda be able to spot different ways of doing it

languid oar
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true

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I figured it out btw, c=9 and d=-75

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😄

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thjanks for help

rigid bramble
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No problem 😄

languid oar
rigid bramble
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Hope you can follow that

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I’d usually do it neater but it’s half past midnight and I gotta sleep now lol

languid oar
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I can follow that

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thats all then! 😄

languid oar
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🤣 this is my homework due tomorrow

rigid bramble
languid oar
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ahaha I see

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well gn

rigid bramble
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You too 😎 👍

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ornate hare
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please let me know if this is correct

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<@&286206848099549185>

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!15min

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dim sandal
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Looks good to me

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royal herald
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What’ve u tried @proud fog

proud fog
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This might sound odd

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But

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I know how to do it

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I think

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But I just need the answers coz it takes me a while

royal herald
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We don’t give answers in this server unfortunately

proud fog
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Ok

royal herald
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If ur looking for answers, look online

proud fog
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Can u confirm my working out tho?

royal herald
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Yea

proud fog
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A) So u make the denominators the same by multiplying by the first fraction by root2 and the second by root3

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Then u add and simplify

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Correct?

royal herald
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No

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Look at the instructions

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First rationalize denominators

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How would u rationalize 1/sqrt3

proud fog
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Is that correct for A

royal herald
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Yes

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Correct

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If u don’t have to show work, do them in ur head and write down the answers

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Stimulates your brain

proud fog
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K

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Thank u

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@proud fog Has your question been resolved?

proud fog
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How would I do d?

cold sage
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seems to want you to rationalise

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should come out cleanly from there really

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mellow notch
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mellow notch
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I need help with parts i and ii

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for part i, I've managed to prove than when a < 1, the sequence a_n is both bounded below and is a constantly falling sequence, hence proving that a it's convergent. But idk how to actually calculate its limit value, which i believe should be 0.

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and for part ii, i have no clue how to do it.

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any help is highly appreciated

open onyx
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i: use the fact that a_n is given to be positive

mellow notch
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yoo @open onyx thank god you're still up

mellow notch
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but how do we calculate it?

open onyx
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you know that it’s bounded below and that it shrinks
which means regardless of the value of a_k you know a_{k+1} is a smaller positive real number (assuming sufficiently large k that the limiting behaviour is dominant)

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so given that you can always find a smaller positive real number in the sequence, show that 0 is the limit

mellow notch
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ok that makes sense

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but how do I show it mathematically?

open onyx
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this is where you use ε-L

mellow notch
open onyx
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yes

mellow notch
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where a_n - a < ε

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where a is the limit?

open onyx
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yes (more commonly you’ll see the limit denoted as L hence ε-L)

mellow notch
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what I have in my notes: there exists Nsuch that | a_n - L | < ε for all n>=N

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do we just guess L to be zero?

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and plug it in?

open onyx
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yup

mellow notch
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or do we get to the 0 value somehow

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would it work with an arbitrary sequence that isn't defined like in this case though?

open onyx
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if you can show it holds for some L then L is a limit for that sequence without needing anything else

mellow notch
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ok let me try doing it

odd edgeBOT
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@mellow notch Has your question been resolved?

mellow notch
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yo im a but stuck

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so |a_n - L| < ε right

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and we assume that L=0

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so |a_n - 0| < ε right?

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a_n < ε

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this means that all the terms of a_n are smaller than ε but bigger than 0

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since our sequence was positive real numbers

open onyx
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yes, so your job is to find N st a_n <ε for all n>N

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so you have to solve for N

mellow notch
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How would I find an N or ε when the thing is arbitrary though

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that's what confusing me

open onyx
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ε is arbitrary, but it is given

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which means you choose N as a function of ε

mellow notch
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huh

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how would I define this function?

open onyx
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use the limiting behavior of your sequence

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you should be able to bound it above by a geometric sequence (note you can freely bound this above because if the upper bound<ε then so does a_n)

mellow notch
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geometric sequence?

open onyx
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$a_n= a_0 r^n$

clever fjordBOT
mellow notch
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how do I know that this arbitrary sequence can be described as such? like a geometric sequence?

open onyx
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specifically because the limiting behavior is a constant ratio

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which is a property of geometric sequences

mellow notch
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what do you mean by the limiting behaviour?

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like in what way the sequence converges?

open onyx
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$\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}$

clever fjordBOT
mellow notch
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this is the limiting behaviour?

open onyx
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if you always had a_{n+1}\a_n= a then it’s a geometric sequence by definition

mellow notch
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but this is the limit though

open onyx
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oh i should probably call it asymptotic behavior if it makes it clearer

mellow notch
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umm so

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I'm very confused

open onyx
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ok, consider this very hastily made up example of 1, 10, 100, 1000, 499, 248, 122.5, 60..
if you consider the whole sequence it’s some nonsense
but the last 4 terms (and my intention is every term afterwards as well) is bounded above by a geometric sequence 1000(0.5)^(n-4)

mellow notch
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ok+

open onyx
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this is the difference between being a geometric sequence and being bounded above by a geometric sequence

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the since you have $\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} =a<1$

clever fjordBOT
open onyx
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at some point your sequence starts behaving nicely enough that it’s bounded above by a geometric sequence

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but the key point is this sequence doesn’t necessarily have r=a

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but instead some r between a and 1 (consider any case where this convergence is coming from above

mellow notch
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ok

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so at a certain term onwards

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the sequence starts behaving like a geometric sequence

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aka bounded by a geomtric sequence

open onyx
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but since it’s an upper bound, if you can show this geometric sequence converges to 0 then necessarily so does the original sequence

mellow notch
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so the limit of our sequence is literally a geometric sequence

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but the r is not constant?

open onyx
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the upper bound is a geometric sequence with constant r

mellow notch
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b

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how can a bound be a sequence

open onyx
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a_n itself can be whatever abomination it wants to be

mellow notch
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so we were trying to find the value of the limit of a_n, which is probably 0

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but we have to actually calculate it

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so we use the definition of a limit (since we know that a_n as a limit) to formulate it

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but since we don't know from which N the sequence actually starts to converge, we have to describe N as a function of ε

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so far right?

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and now

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what now

open onyx
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show that a_n is bounded above by a geometric sequence with some r ∈ (a, 1)

(you might even want to use ε-N for this)

mellow notch
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when you say bounded, you don't mean like a limit right?

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ε-N is how we define limits right?

open onyx
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nope, i just need you to show that beyond some point, every a_n is smaller than a term in a geometric sequence with the aforementioned r

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this is about 2 lines using ε-N

mellow notch
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ε-N is the definition of limit |a_n - a_0*r| < ε for n>=N

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a_n < a_0*r + ε

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and the point from which every term is smaller than the geometric sequence is ε?

open onyx
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hmm, not quite

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i can just show you the argument and see if you can follow it

since $\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}= a, \forall \varepsilon >0 \exists N s.t. \forall n>N, \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} < \varepsilon$

clever fjordBOT
open onyx
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and here’s a fun trick

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we pick $r=\frac{a+1}{2}$ and let $\varepsilon = \frac{1-a}{2}$

clever fjordBOT
mellow notch
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ok

open onyx
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now see if you can finish the argument using the N already given as the point where the geometric sequence starts acting as an upper bound

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direct computation should be sufficient but various methods work

mellow notch
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so

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now we gotta take this ε and r and rewrite the ε-N

open onyx
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once you wrap your head around it a little and can write out the geometric sequence the rest is pretty quick

open onyx
clever fjordBOT
mellow notch
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a_n+1 <a_n*((a+1/2) + (1-a/2))

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for all n>=N

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wait

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no

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|a_n+1/a_n - a| < ε would become a_n+1 / a_n < ε + a

open onyx
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depends on the sign inside the abs value

mellow notch
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is this hard or am i just dumb

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isn't the sequence always positive?

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does it even matter if we have an absolute value there after we carry over the a?

open onyx
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well but the limit is on the ratio
so if the ratio is smaller than a and approaches it from below then the value inside the absolute value is negative

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limit of a sequence that gets bounded by a geometric sequence is pretty confusing tbh

mellow notch
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you honestly have patience

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but i don't think I understand this part

open onyx
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which?

mellow notch
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I just can't wrap my head around how we need to do all this to figure out the value of the limit

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like we literally already know that the limit is 0

open onyx
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welcome to the land of mathematical rigor (and tbh this isn’t very long after you get used to it but yes it’s pretty annoying at the beginning)

mellow notch
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would you be down to focus on part ii for a sec?

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i think that part is much easier

open onyx
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sure, but it’s effectively the same thing

mellow notch
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oh

open onyx
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show this time that it’s bounded below by another geometric sequence with r ∈ (1, a)

mellow notch
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but we don't have to determine a limit of a_n as it is divergent

open onyx
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and therefore show since the lower bound diverges so must the original sequence

mellow notch
open onyx
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the reason why you have to use bounds here is because the original sequence is too uninformative
and the bounds let you do a lot more

mellow notch
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just question

open onyx
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(and it’s much easier to put everything in words.. but part of maths is figuring out how to precisely express everything you want to say)

mellow notch
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for part i, I know that it has a lower bound at 0, but do I also need to show that it has an upper bound to prove its convergence?

open onyx
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if you can show by ε-N that it has a limit, you do not need any bounds at all

mellow notch
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ε-N what is this called

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lemme google it real quick

open onyx
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it’s your formal definition of a limit

mellow notch
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ok i know that one

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my question

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how can we apply the definition of a limit to something and see if it has one or not

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like take sequence 1/n for example

open onyx
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you basically always solve N as a function of ε

mellow notch
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|1/n - L| < ε for n>=N

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this means that at some point N onwards, every 1/n will be between the limit and the epsilon value

open onyx
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ok, let’s do |1/n-0|<ε
then 1/n<ε rearranging gets n > 1/ε

then immediately for any ε we pick N = 1/ε
and for all n>N we have n>1/ε which yields 1/n<ε as required

mellow notch
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and we just plugged in 0 for L becuase?

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educated guess?

open onyx
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because we know it is :p
just like how you already know yours is

mellow notch
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ah ok

open onyx
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and if you weren’t shown something like that, you should see how having a closed form for a_n can let you directly solve for N

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which goes back to my point about getting an geometric sequence as a bound, because a geometric sequence has a closed form formula

mellow notch
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geometric sequence as a bound

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wait geometric sum actually

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with and 0<r<1

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which would mean that the sum of the sequence is a finite value

open onyx
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i mean if you can show the bounding geometric sequence has infinite sum equal to finite value that’s fine too

mellow notch
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bro

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I give up

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I'm just gonna fail this weeks assignment

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Thank you so much for helping me out and being so patient. I really appreciate it

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wispy vine
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For question 1 (b), how am i supposed to find Q and R. Apparently, I’m supposed to solve the line and parabola but idk how to get the parabola

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fiery ermine
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Let x,y,z be non zero reals, such that x^2+y^2+z^2=1, find the minimum value of |x|+|y|+|z|

fiery ermine
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well the maximum is sqrt(3)

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but I don’t know how to find the min

toxic monolith
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$\text{Accordingly to the symmetry let's assume that: }x,y,z\ge 0\text{ then }\\\left| x \right|+\left| y \right|+\left| z \right|=x+y+z\\\text{ in addition }z=\sqrt{1-x^{2}-y^{2}}\text{ for }x^{2}+y^{2}\le 1\\\text{ Hence let's consider the following function: }\\f\left( x,y \right)=x+y+\sqrt{1-x^{2}-y^{2}}$

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Joanna Angel

toxic monolith
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Now you may identify the minimum of the function f, that should not be a problem

fiery ermine
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I just take the partial derivative in terms of x and y yeah?

toxic monolith
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yes

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and equate them to zero, both fo them

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tha is the first condition , necessry one fo exisitng the extremum value

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next, you need to investigate hessian

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determinant consisted of secodn derivatives

fiery ermine
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I’ll still have y,x in both value derivatives

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so o just solve the soq?

toxic monolith
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yes, x and y both of them must exisit

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we name it :

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partial derivatives

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of the first order

fiery ermine
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Yeah yeah just treat y as a constant or x as a constant

toxic monolith
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doyou know the theory ?

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when you evalaute first derivative in respect to x, then , you treat y as a consnt

fiery ermine
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Briefly

toxic monolith
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and when you compute derivative in respect to y, then you treat x as a consntat

fiery ermine
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yeah. I got 1 - y/ sqrt (1-x^2-y^2)

toxic monolith
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$\left{ \begin{array}{l}
\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}}\left( {x,y} \right) = 0\
\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial y}}\left( {x,y} \right) = 0
\end{array} \right.$

clever fjordBOT
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Joanna Angel

fiery ermine
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I get x=+-1 and y=0, but this can’t be true since then the square root would be zero, and our assumption about them all being nonzero would be false

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Since they are nonzero reals

toxic rose
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$(x+y+z)^2 \cdot (x+y+z) = 27xyz$

clever fjordBOT
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ItzKraken

toxic rose
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hmm

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$(x+y)^2 \geq 4xy \Rightarrow \frac{(x+y)^2}{4} \geq xy$

clever fjordBOT
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ItzKraken

toxic rose
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with equality only when x=y

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hmm

toxic rose
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we know that

fiery ermine
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Well yeah but we never get out the separate abs |x|+|y|+|z|

toxic rose
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so $xy+yz+zx = 1 - 729x^2y^2z^2$

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toxic rose
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well we know that xy+yz+zx>=-1/2 if they are all@reals

toxic rose
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how @fiery ermine thonk

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$1 - 729x^2y^2z^2 \geq \frac{-1}{2} \Rightarrow \frac{1}{2 \cdot 243} \geq x^2y^2z^2$

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ItzKraken

fiery ermine
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Notice that (x+y+z)^2>=0

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and since x^2+y^2+z^2=1

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we get our result

toxic rose
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oh right

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so $xyz \leq \frac{\sqrt{6}}{54}$

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ItzKraken

toxic rose
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bruh that gives us the maximum value

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we need an upper bound on xyz

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oh wait

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i messed up in AM-GM

fiery ermine
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The upper bound is sqrt(3) via AM-QM

fiery ermine
toxic rose
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nvm i gtg

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bye

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$$\begin{array}{l}
\left{ \begin{array}{l}
1 - \frac{x}{{\sqrt {1 - {x^2} - {y^2}} }} = 0\
1 - \frac{y}{{\sqrt {1 - {x^2} - {y^2}} }} = 0
\end{array} \right. \Leftrightarrow \left{ \begin{array}{l}
1 - {x^2} - {y^2} = {x^2}\
1 - {x^2} - {y^2} = {y^2}
\end{array} \right. \Leftrightarrow \
\
\left{ \begin{array}{l}
2{x^2} + {y^2} = 1\
{x^2} + 2{y^2} = 1
\end{array} \right. \Leftrightarrow \left{ \begin{array}{l}
x = \frac{{\sqrt 3 }}{3}\
y = \frac{{\sqrt 3 }}{3}
\end{array} \right.
\end{array}$$

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toxic monolith
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that calculation i s corrct plz analsye it

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and now plz uinvestigate hessian

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and als correct yoruprevious calculations

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both , aS you can see, are positive

fiery ermine
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oh I know where I messed up silly signs

toxic monolith
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🙂

fiery ermine
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I unfortunately don’t know what the hessians are

toxic monolith
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i write it moment

fiery ermine
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Thank u

toxic monolith
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$\det \left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
{\frac{{{\partial ^2}f}}{{\partial {x^2}}}\left( {{x_0},{y_0}} \right)}&{\frac{{{\partial ^2}f}}{{\partial x\partial y}}\left( {{x_0},{y_0}} \right)}\
{\frac{{{\partial ^2}f}}{{\partial x\partial y}}\left( {{x_0},{y_0}} \right)}&{\frac{{{\partial ^2}f}}{{\partial {y^2}}}\left( {{x_0},{y_0}} \right)}
\end{array}} \right]$

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Joanna Angel

toxic monolith
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if this determinant is positive then f reaches extremeum value in point

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if it is negatvei , there is no extremeum

fiery ermine
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I just check if they are zeros of the second derivatives?

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What if *

toxic monolith
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the point

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i have foudn for you

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above

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so noow, you need to plug yoru pint isndie this determinant

fiery ermine
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I’m sorry but I don’t know any linear algebra:(

toxic monolith
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aww

fiery ermine
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Can I just check if they are zeros of the second derivatives?

toxic monolith
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no

fiery ermine
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Since if they are then there is a bending point there etc.

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is there any other way?

toxic monolith
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when it comes to the calculus-based method, we first look for the zero of the partial derivatives, i.e. the system of equations that I found for you

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and then you need to examine the determinant that I wrote at this found point,

fiery ermine
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Can you maybe tell me how to calculate the detriment I’ll do that

toxic monolith
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$\det \left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
a&b\
c&d
\end{array}} \right] = ad - bc$

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Joanna Angel

fiery ermine
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but this will be the maximum value

toxic monolith
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btw , are you student of what sort of school mayeb it helps in selectign method

fiery ermine
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not the minimum

toxic monolith
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if there is no minimum value inside the aera

fiery ermine
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I’m a high schooler 11th grade

toxic monolith
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then we need to investigate it on the edge

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on a circle

fiery ermine
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well I know this is the maximum since you can get that using Am<=Km

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or QMS*

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Like quadratic mean

toxic monolith
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can they be negative?

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x, y, z ?

fiery ermine
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Yeah

toxic monolith
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in yoru exercise

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ok moemnt then

fiery ermine
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but they are non zero

toxic monolith
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so

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-sqr(3)

fiery ermine
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and satisfy that their squares some up to 1

toxic monolith
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but moment

fiery ermine
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but we take |x| + |y| + |z|

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hard field
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yo

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im dreading having to find the det of (A-λI) , how would I go about this with any properties ?

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I dont have any knowledge that lets me do much without actually having the eigenvalues

dreamy yacht
hard field
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I can

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it's just going to be quite the timesink I think

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I can maybe manipulate (A-λI) to have only 1 non zero coefficient when finding det(A-λI)but it would still take centuries :((

boreal crag
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Well it would take 5 minutes probably

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Is the determinant of A 0?

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Actually that's probably not important

hard field
hard field
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there are so many computations is so poop

boreal crag
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Don't do gaussian elimination

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Just do the reduction to 2×2s

hard field
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alright

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and once I get them im expecting a to have some algebraic multiplicity of eigenvalues

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it then has to match the number of eigen vectors (for that eigenvalue)

boreal crag
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Obviously for B choose the row/column with the 0

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The number of independent eigenvectors yeah

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Geometric multiplicity

hard field
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ye

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ok ill report back in..

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5 years?

boreal crag
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good luck soldier

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Maybe 5 minutes was a bit low

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Maybe 10

hard field
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ye

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this shit is unbearable

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I get to the end

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cant factor it

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mistake made somewhere on previous lines

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cant find it

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fuck off sadcat

boreal crag
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oof

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,w det[[5-x,8,16],[4,1-x,8],[-4,-4,-11-x]]

boreal crag
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did you get this

hard field
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the mistake was on the first ufkcing iseuhbfilsuaehfli

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I read a 4 as an 11

hard field
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:)

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so values of 3 , -1,-1

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andddd

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now to find eigenvector

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(s)

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ok

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got it

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and it worked

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B can actually FUCK Off

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im not doing that ever again

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got {[-2,0,1],[-1,1,0]}

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now are those the eigen vectors?

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and we say the eigen space is the space spanned by those vectors?

boreal crag
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I think every eigenvalue has it's own eigenspace

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Really you can probably just use wolfram

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left knot
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I know the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x

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so H'(z)= 1/(the stuff inside the log that im too lazy to write out)

spiral raptor
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nope

left knot
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other than that ive got no clue what to do

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i think i went the wrong way

spiral raptor
left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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the derivative of lnx is 1/x

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when u are differentiating with respect to x

left knot
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oh

spiral raptor
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so u have to differentiate wrt (im lazy too) in order to use that fact

left knot
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???

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wrt???

spiral raptor
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with respect to

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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u havent studied chain rule?

left knot
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my teacher went over it like once in 5 minutes

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and expects us to know it

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but im not great with it

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I know f'(g(x))*g'(x)

spiral raptor
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ok how about i give u a example

left knot
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but im struggling to apply it

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ok

spiral raptor
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but its hard to understand in that form

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so heres the example

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u need to diiferentiate z wrt x

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instead u can differentiate z wrt y and multiply that by the derivative of y wrt x

left knot
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ok...

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I think i get what you're saying

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so how do i deal with the ln?

spiral raptor
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here found something that looks decent

left knot
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uhhhhhh

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ok

spiral raptor
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umm ok ok

left knot
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i get the du/dx

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but not quite the dy/du

spiral raptor
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u see how the du's cancel out right

left knot
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yeah

spiral raptor
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if u want to see y this works i'll link a vid at the end

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but now lemme show how to solvve that prob

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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okay here u cant use the derivatve of lnx is 1/x directly

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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but consider differentating wrt that whole mess inside the ln

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that thing can be treated just like this du

left knot
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so do you split up the a's and z's?

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ohh ok

spiral raptor
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here y is ofc our function ln(something something)

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u is the (something something)

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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and we want our derivative wrt z right

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so dx here is our dz

left knot
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but then what is the "ln"

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is that dx?

spiral raptor
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no no ln(that thing)

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is our y

left knot
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ok

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ohhhhhh

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ok yeah i get it

spiral raptor
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ok imma try a doodle to show

left knot
spiral raptor
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i dont even have a mouse sorry; there s is that big thing

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so if we differentiate wrt that s

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we can directly use that fact u mentioned before

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d(ln(x))/dx = 1/x

left knot
spiral raptor
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dz

left knot
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wait the second one is also dz?

spiral raptor
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the first one isnt...

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the first one is ds

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then with the top ds in the second fraction

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it cancels out

left knot
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this is what you wrote right?

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and then the ds cancels out

spiral raptor
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yep

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yea

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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but dont cancel them!!

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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they do if u want to

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and see that the equation is true

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but our goal here is to differentiate

left knot
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ok

left knot
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ohh wait i see now'

spiral raptor
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yea show me ur final results or i'll be unsatisfied

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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also tell me if u wanna get to understand the chain rule

left knot
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so im here

spiral raptor
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okay now substitute the stuff inside

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u cant run from it forever

left knot
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ok

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lol

spiral raptor
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💀

left knot
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but what do i put for d(s)?

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would it just be d(chaos) ?

spiral raptor
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yep

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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u can differentiate that wrt z right

left knot
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umm

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we'll see

spiral raptor
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oh wait u just learning chain rule

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😓

left knot
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this right

spiral raptor
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i might die in like 5min btw

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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so u know what to do with the fraction

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in the first half

left knot
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yeah

spiral raptor
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what

left knot
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use the recirpocol

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right

spiral raptor
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yep

left knot
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or howevert its spelt

spiral raptor
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but wait

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just it case i die

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ill tell u what else to do

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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u okay with exponentials?

left knot
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yeah

spiral raptor
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and product rule?

left knot
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should i write the sqrt as 1/2

left knot
spiral raptor
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quotient rule?

spiral raptor
left knot
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less yeah but it should be fine

spiral raptor
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if u have difficulties with the quotient rule

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u can just use the product rule

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u know that right

left knot
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yeah

spiral raptor
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okay so

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the second fraction

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Differential of something that looks like (a^1/2)/(b^1/2)

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right?

left knot
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huh?

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where did a and b come from

spiral raptor
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i just didnt wanna type

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they just represent stuff

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just check the second fractio

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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and ull see what i mean

left knot
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ok yeah i think i get it

spiral raptor
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root of something divided by root of something else

left knot
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yeah

spiral raptor
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now use product rule

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or quotient rulw

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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if u can quotient is better

left knot
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ok

spiral raptor
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and while u do this using chain rule is easier

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like how we used the chaos as u in this

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we can stilll use the same trick if we face any more difficulty

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so yea imma die now

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if u need more help

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ok

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thank you!

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im showing my oroof for d)

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im confused about how you can get the U_r ^T

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$(U\Sigma)^T = \Sigma^TU^T$

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aPlatypus

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that's a general thing with transposes

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@sleek falcon

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idk wdym

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well you wrote US = U_r right

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well I'm showing you how S^T U^T = U_r^T

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@sleek falcon

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my prof said to do that

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5 coins are flipped at the same time what is the probability of 3heada and 2 tails

thin anvil
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How do I draw the table

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I don’t understand it

hollow hearth
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shouldn’t be too hard

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do you need to draw a table or are you allowed to use other things to solve

thin anvil
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I’m allowed to use other things

hollow hearth
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alright

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so let’s make the probability of this event occurring is the probability of 3h2t over the probability of all possible outcomes

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correct?

thin anvil
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Yes

hollow hearth
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oops. not probability just numbers of outcomes

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ok anyways

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the denominator is easier to start with

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how many different combinations are there?

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(also are the coins distinct or no)

thin anvil
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Should it be 5 * 2 (each coin has two faces)

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10 possible outcomes?

hollow hearth
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i think it should be 2^5 instead

thin anvil
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Can you please explain why?

hollow hearth
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every coin has heads or tails right

thin anvil
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Yes

hollow hearth
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so we use the uhh

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it’s like fundamental theorem of counting or smth

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it’s basically you multiple the outcomes together to get the total amount

thin anvil
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Oh

hollow hearth
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for every flip it either is heads or tails

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and we can multiple that together

thin anvil
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1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2?

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Or 1/2^5

hollow hearth
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not 1/2 just 2, we are calculating total outcomes first, and then using fractions

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you could use it, but it doesn’t really make a different

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difference*

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anyways we have our denominator as 32 right now

thin anvil
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Yes

hollow hearth
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now for the numerator

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what’s the amount of ways to choose 3 coins out of 5

thin anvil
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3?

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Confused….

hollow hearth
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let’s say we have coins 1 2 3 4 5

thin anvil
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Yes

hollow hearth
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we could have 1 2 3, 1 2 4, 1 2 5, etc.

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do you know the choose function

thin anvil
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Nope

hollow hearth
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it will speed it up so you don’t need to count

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n choose k is n!/(k!)(n-k)!

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so for here we have 5 choose 3

thin anvil
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Ye

hollow hearth
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so plug into the formula and you will get the amount of outcomes

thin anvil
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! -> factorial

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?

hollow hearth
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yep

thin anvil
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K

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Ans is 10?

hollow hearth
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yep

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so we have 10/32 as the probability

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or 5/16

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Ohhh

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help

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how is this the derivative of r’(1)??

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What part of that are u confused about? That’s the derivative of r(x)

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Aka r’(x)

boreal wave
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shouldn’t it be

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2

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I’m confused

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What should be 2?

boreal wave
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the derivative

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of r(x)

royal herald
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Why would it be 2

boreal wave
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shouldn’t it be 2+2x

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why’d we multiply the inside function with 2

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??

royal herald
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f(2x+1)

boreal wave
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yes

royal herald
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The derivative of that is

boreal wave
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2

royal herald
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f’(2x + 1) * (2x+1)’

boreal wave
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??

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why

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tho

royal herald
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Chain rule

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Derivative of the outside function times derivative of the inside function

boreal wave
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outside function times inside function times derivative of inside function

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but

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what’s the outside function

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??

royal herald
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f

boreal wave
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hmm

royal herald
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f()

boreal wave
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ok

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i get it now

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What does canonical mean?
I have to prove that (Z^n, •, const0) has a structure of a canonical group

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"Let (G, ·, e) be a group, and X be a set. Show that (G^X, •, conste) with (f • f′) : x → f(x) · f′(x) forms a group. Conclude that ∏nZ has a canonical abelian group structure."

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I've shown that it's an abelian group (each f has inverse f' and • ist commutative)
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can't you just use the first proof for that ?

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"schliessen" it means "deduce" I suppose

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that's what they want you to go for

frozen stream
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so what is canonical?

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what do i have to prove exactly

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it can mean a few things, the meaning here is prolly "it's a standard construction"

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which is irrelevant for the proof, just show it's an abelian group

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@frozen stream

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I have to write a sentence why it's canonical

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do you have a specific meaning for canonical in your class ?

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We defined canonical projection, canonical embedding and canonical homomorphism (Z → R)

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But not specifically for groups.

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well if they didn't define canonical group structure just consider it's a fluff word

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also don't forget the abelian part

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but it's pretty easy to see why it works

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shrewd cosmos
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Can this be solved?

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shrewd cosmos
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yes

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yes

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$1^{\pi}$ is just $1$.

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bruh, i just randomly wrote that, lol, didn't even notice I have 1^π.

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,w -i^(e*sqrt(-i-1))+3/i

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Bruh,thanks

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im confused is the low rank formula just

sleek falcon
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ie for rank 1, A = u1 sigma1 and V1?

low locust
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yes

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unless you have some other context than I am guessing here

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I'm confused why is the graph going to the left

zenith terrace
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Isnt it supposed to go right because b is over 0

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Try rewriting 4 - x in the form b(x - h)

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physics problem; somewhere ive made an error, but all of the calculations are correct (i've triple checked)

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sorry for the sloppy work, wasn't expecting to have to show to anyone else

trim timber
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Wi is supposed to be in rads

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u forgot to convert from rpm to radians

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i used rad/s as my units for angular vel in the linear velocity calculation

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i can't see why it'd matter at what point i convert to rad/s in as long as its consistent throughout the angular velocity calculations

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realized it was a dumb error

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in the ang vel to linear vel i used diameter not radius

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i need help with telling if something is a proportion because i dont understand at all

hazy tartan
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i dont know if the first one is right and i still need to know how to do the other ones

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half fulcrum
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does 16/21 = 6/9?

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thats all its asking

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yes

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are you sure?

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wait no

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cus 9 cant go into 21 something like that

half fulcrum
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can 16/21 be reduced at all?

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16 = 2x2x2x2

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21 = 3x7

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does anything cancel?

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(2x2x2x2)/(3x7)

hazy tartan
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no

half fulcrum
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ok

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then 16/21 does not reduce

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that means 16/21 cannot be rewritten as a smaller fraction

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so what would that mean then

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its asking if 16/21 can be written as 6/9

hazy tartan
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?

half fulcrum
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can 16/21 be written as 6/9

hazy tartan
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no

half fulcrum
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ok

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and thats all you do for the rest

hazy tartan
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but now its different i understood that part

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now its asking me to solve

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ok

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do you know how to start solving it?

hazy tartan
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no

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ok

hazy tartan
half fulcrum
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we're trying to find all values of x that make the statement true

hazy tartan
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ok

half fulcrum
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is multiplying both sides by 12 a valid thing to do?

hazy tartan
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yes

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ok

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try doing that then

hazy tartan
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ok hold up

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wait but where would the x go

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wait i got it

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ok

hazy tartan
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i can just reduce 3/12 to 1/4 right

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then cross multiply and get 8?

half fulcrum
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yes

hazy tartan
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i need help with these

half fulcrum
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you just cross multiplied to solve the previous one right

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so can you do that here too?

hazy tartan
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ok

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ok i got all of them i just need to know how to do these last 2

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oh

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ok i got it

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how do i use the squeeze theorem to find the limit to (cos(1/n)-1)/(1/n)?

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i know that by the squeeze theorem -1 <= cos(1/n) <= 1

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native yew
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and dividing by 1/n is the same as multiplying by n so im finding the limit for n(cos(1/n)-n

native yew
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i can get a screenshot of the book but it doesnt say anything

native yew
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-n-n <= cos(1/n) <= n-n

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-2n <= cos(1/n) <= 0

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the answer is supposed to be 0

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not sure what im doing wrong

solemn jay
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it’s a sequence so yes it is infinity

native yew
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the left side should also be 0

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but idk what to do

solemn jay
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-1 cos(1/n) 1

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-n ncos(1/n) n

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Hmmm

native yew
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am i allowed to divide all 3 parts by n?

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what happens to the -1 on top though

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P1 + P
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(х(- t) = 0 (in ^L_o>8 -()),. (3.2)

f(x + t)-2f(x) + f(x-t) = li(t)-2lK(0) + lL(-~t)==l
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P ' R + x = WTv^u ??

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wintry temple
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can someone tell me the answer for the first one i don't have answer