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Prove that the angle bisecotor of an angle and the perpendicular bisector of the side opposite to that angle meet at the circumcircle of the triangle which we're talking about.
So where are you stuck?
It's a very common result
Basically draw the angle bisector, let it interesting circumcircle at any point
Join the other 2 vertex of triangle
Now that new triangle is isosceles after doing basic angle chasing
Now it's easy right?
Then just draw the perpendicular
And prove that it's the perpendicular bisector of the base
Easyyy
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I contemplated the following:
DE = EB since AF is the perpendicular bisector of BD and the centre of the circle is A.
angle DAE = angle BAE
angle DCB = 2θ (let)
angle DCF = angle FCB = θ (since CF is the angle bisector of angle C)
angle DAB = 2 * 2θ = 4θ
angle DAE = 2θ
angle DBC = x (let)
angle ACB = x + 2θ - 90
angle FCA = θ - (x + 2θ - 90) = 90 - x - θ
angle CAF = 2θ + 2x
angle CFA = 180 - (2θ + 2x + 90 - x - θ) = 90 - θ - x = angle FCA
This implies AC = AF = radius = R
But the circle is the locus of every point at a fixed distance from a given point, which is here the central point A.
So F must lie on the circumcircle to satisfy that AF = AC = radius.
Done.
Is this proof of mine correct?
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L insufficient data
ABC equilateral triangle
BE = AD
I’ve been thinking about it for a long time
Couldn’t solve it
So maybe it’s not possible with the given
I think constructing another pair of intersecting lines might help (as shown in the figure)
Can anyone see my proof and tell if it's correct?
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Yes the proof looks correct
Hm
Okay, thanks.
Don't worry, the question of theirs is solved.
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Who wanna grind with me on khan academy the pre-algebra section, i'm trying to pick up math.
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Show that for this system there is an infinity of real solutions for x, y, z.
I honestly don't know how to solve this and the single Idea I had was to add them🤷♂️
If somebody can help me solve this problem I would really appreciate it!!!🙏
My initial thought is think whether I can eliminate one variable
by doing one of the equations taking away another
if you end up with two equations that are the same that means there are infinitely many solutions
at least that’s how I did it when the equations are like ax+by+cz=0
If we multiply through by xyz and add all three equations we get x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = xy + xz + yz + 7xyz
The fact that the left is a sphere is interesting, and it might be possible to do something with that?
I'm honestly not sure.
yeah I also got that. the thing is that I have NO clue what to do with it
I stood on this problem for almost 2 hours today, so I would really appreciate a solution 😊
😊 no
Maybe a change of variables might be useful? a = 1/x, b = 1/y, c = 1/z
This would cut down a little bit in the degree of the expression.
ab - b^2 + bc = ac + 2b
And so on
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I'm learning really well when you show me how to actually solve it. I have problmes vizualizing hints that might or might not take me to the solution...
I also tried to replace y=z=k and x=t and I didn't get results...
huh?
There was a spammer
ab - b^2 + bc = ac + 2b
ac + bc - c^2 = ab - 3c
-a^2 + ab + ac = bc - 6a
Each of these is a quadratic. From the third we can get
a^2 - (6 + b + c) + bc = 0
Or a = ((6+b+c) ± √((6+b+c)^2 - 4bc))/2
Which is gross, but I guess in principle can be substituted into the first and second equation.
@weary harness there is almost certainly a better way to do this
But I just don't see it
Remember though that 0 ≠ {a,b,c} due to the substitution
yeah
I'll have to look at this tomorrow, because I'm way too tired rn.
should I close the thread?
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i need help with understanding how integrating a^(x) dx gets you 1/ln(a) x a^(x), would be nice if sm1 could break it down for me
a^x = e^ln(a^x) = e^xln(a)
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I need help understanding Rotational Kinematics. I watched the lecture the professor provided us and am looking at kinematic equations but I am still unsure how I could solve these problems. This is one of the problems.
you'll also need v=wr
and come up with what both people have in common when on the same merry-go-round
v=(omega)r right?
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both friends are on the same merry go round. what quantity might they both have in common based on that information
Angular velocity since they are on the same merry go round?
yes, the angular velocity is the same for the entire merry go round
would the different between them be tangential velocity since they are on different points on the merry go round?
yes
for step one its just 8 seconds since they are on the same merry go round
they do both have the same period, yes
let me look at my notes to try to find the equation to find average linear speed
solved it. The friend was going at 4 m/s since they are twice as far from the center as you are
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number 38 is the one im doing
(2nd imnage
i should porb send seperate
look
im unsure what my bounds would be
r,-r?
and how am i suppose to derive a formula for this
f(x) = ?
hint psl
Think about the 2D region you are integrating. Also note the definition of a torus.
you have a formula for the surface area of a solid of revolution. think about how you might construct a torus as a solid of revolution
I know this is the area of a torus(4 × Pi^2 × R × r)
Okay. How would that relate here?
i.e., what graph (in 2D) should you be integrating over (via the definition of a torus)?
elipse?
Not necessarily.
||how about a circle rotating around the y-axis||
Note the shape the outer ring has, if you take cross sections perpendicular to the shape.
I mean, I was going to lead them to that.
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But we can still utilize it anyways.
It’s fine, it’s only one piece of the puzzle.
Try to draw (or graph in your mind) a 2D circle as described. Where would it’s center be, as well as it’s radius?
the origin
Hmm.
Well, it wouldn’t be the optimal place, but that works.
So what line would we be revolving it around? And what is the radius of the circle described?
y axis
Not necessarily. That’s if the circle is located somewhere else.
idk the radius of the circle being described but half of pie?
ik here its R+r
adn R-r
but thats all i know
The radius is arbitrary here.
wouldnt it be always revolving around the origin from where the circle is placed
placement of origin
i guess
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is this correct?
,w expand 3(x-3)-4(x-3)
you have missed a x in the 3rd step
wait one second does the question say 6x^2 -26+24 or 6x^2-26x+24
and what do you have to do with it?
factorise
Won’t it just be 6x^2 - 2 then
huh
can you explain what you have done from the 3rd step to the 4th step
which one is 3rd which one is 4th
because your final answer is the factorisation of 6x^2 -26x+24
what
oh yeah
That’s why I asked if it was 26x or just 26
im not too sure how to explain but i dissembled -13 because there are no common factors for it
im confused as well
thats what the teacher gave me
resulting in -9 + -4
3 is a factor of 9
3 is also a factor of 12
This is fine but -13 has to be a coefficient of x
In your question the coefficient of x is 0
This basically
is it solvable
if you can confirm this
if it’s just 26 then you can just write 6x^2-2 and factor out a 2
wait what
how come
where did the 2 come from
Alternatively you can try expanding what you got and see if it matches your question
-26+24
oh yeah
this is what the teacher showed though
and i got really confused
I mean you can factorise 3x^2-1 further into two factors but I guess the teacher wants you to do it using 26x
<@&286206848099549185> can somebody else help with this dilemma
so it could be a mistake on the teacher’s part
then your answer is correct
i’ll ask my teacher when i see them
wait where did the -1 come from
He just factored out a 2 from the equation.
If you’re going to factor non-monics, use this neat trick; for ax^2+bx+c, when a is not 0 or 1, we can write it like x^2+bx+ac, factor by grouping that way, then bring the coefficient back.
that’s what i did
i think
Just don’t forget to write an x next time.
i did NOT forget to write an x
the teacher handed me
6x^2 - 26 + 24
They must’ve forgotten.
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this shouldnt be this hard but i cant find proper way of finding the median for a histogram
ive seen maybe the Median = L + (N/2 - F)/f * w, or the one to calculate all frequency by (average x interval) * (y, number of paitent) / patient count, total y)
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why did this guy end his integration by parts after one segment. (the notations under D and I)
how do you idnetify that?
what does that mean
it's a product of two powers of x
the new integral is easy to evaluate
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Find the average value of the function f(x) in the interval [1, 3] and determine the coordinates of the point at which it occurs.
Well
So, I integrated it.
Yep
Yes.
So, let us do it together to verify.
So that the avergae value
It askes
determine the coordinates of the point at which it occurs.
yes, but I cannot tell if I did it correctly or not.
I did find X
but how can I know if I'm right?
What do u mean
This is what I got.
U missing +- case
You still need to write down the +- case, then argue this. So u get full score
Else, as a teacher, i would deduct half the score for that question lol
Not really
maybe replace the X with the X I found?
so I can determine the coordinates
I have X
well u need to make the conclusion
but I need Y
(x,y)
y is the average value itself
lol
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can someone explain why the second equation = f(2i)f(-2i)
those are the roots
f(x) = a(x-x1)(x-x2)....
Where x1 ,x2 etc are roots
p, q, r are the roots of f(x). Or in other words, f(x) = (x-p)(x-q)(x-r)
so you just replace x with 2i, and x with -2i, youd get the product
yes but where did 2i and -2i come from
like how did (p^2+4)etc etc become f(2i)f(-2i)
yea
sqrt(-4) = +/- 2i
you just factorized p^2+4 as (p+2i)(p-2i), and so on
yea
now pick the terms (p+2i)(q+2i)(r+2i)
and compare with this
oh okay
same with the leftover
okay
one of these is same as -f(2i), other is same as -f(-2i)
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@cobalt crypt this is what i got so far
i tried somehow using the fact that Tv = 0, but then i can't make a relationship between v and T'v
you know that ker(T') (+) Y = X, and X is finite dimensional, so ker(T') is as well
so you can pick a basis of ker(T')
yeah, but v is in ker(T), it's not like i can construct v by "extending the basis of ker(T') to ker(T)"
you cannot, but ker(T') is in direct sum with ker(S), so S will take a basis of ker(T') to linearly independent vectors in im(S)
let say the basis of ker(T') is v_1, ..., v_k, and so Sv = a_1 Sv_1 + ... + a_k Sv_k
then you can play the same trick again
define x = a_1 v_1 + ... + a_k v_k, w = v - x
wait does this work 
how?
okay yeah it does work
because S restricted to ker(T') is injective
ah i see
consider S' : ker(S) (+) ker(T') -> W, then im(S') = { S'(u + v) = S'v | u \in ker(S), v \in ker(T') } = { S'v | v \in \ker(T') }
isn't that effectively the same as S': ker(T') -> W?
well their image is the same, but their domains are not
i see
but thats the whole point i guess, the ker(S) is not contributing to the image of S' at all, so we can rewrite Sv = linear combo of Sv_i
where you've chosen the v_i from ker(T') only
can you elaborate on this? S|_ker(T') is injective, sure, but v is in ker(T), not in ker(T')
yeah
but we can test which part of v is in ker(S) using S
you kill part of v using S, and the part that isn't killed comes from ker(T'), over which S is injective
so you can invert Sv back to get the part of it which lives in ker(T')
ohhhhh waiittttttt
previously i defined w = v - linear combo of e's, so v = w + linear combo of e's
if we apply S on it, then Sv = S(w + linear combo of e's) = S(linear combo of e's)
but like, the combo is from X, not ker(T')

well the part i trimmed down from v using S is w, which, yes, comes from ker(S)
but what's left is from X, not ker(T')
X = ker(T') (+) Y btw, just to make sure we're on the same boat
yeah but i have no idea what you're talking about rn
er, can you reiterate from this part again?
im S|_(ker(S) (+) ker(T')) = im S|_ker(T'), and S|_ker(T') is injective
pick a basis of ker(T'), v_1, ..., v_k
then for v \in ker(S) (+) ker(T'), Sv \in im S|_ker(T'), and therefore can be written as a linear combo of the image of the basis Sv_1, ..., Sv_k
but we are proving ker(T) = ker(S) + ker(T'), why are you already assuming v in ker(S) + ker(T')
rn i'm doing ker(T) subset ker(S) + ker(T')
something cropped up, imma go rq
aight
i need some time to think about this as well
glhf
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radical axis
i dont know any properties of it 
a point on radical axis has same power wrt both circles
all i know its a line so power one one is power on both
yea, and what is power of a point outside the circle?
which would be line ap
Like its geometric interpretation
what
oh ok it just clicked
Oh lmao didnt see that
basically line AP is the radical axis, so power of any point on the radical axis say of D (call the intersection of AP and BC as D) is equal on both circles, so BD^2=CD^2 or BD=CD, which bisects BC
like this?
Yea
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simplify
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which set is this
is that like natural numbers + {0}?
most likely yes
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$\mathbb{N}_0$
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could someone explain this to me??
what do u need to do?
so it is a revision sheet for my exam tomorrow and this is the question i dont understand
it says 'Work out'
no i didnt understand the bottom like what to do in the division part im kinda dumb gng💀
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all
of the
m
but
i feel like if a is solved
i can solve the rest
AH WAIT
hold on
nvermind
wait a minute yea
no nevermind
again
i dont know what to do here
they arent considered similair shapes correct?
so i cant do small/large = small/large
Nope
We already know CX, OY, and CO
TC is the only variable
So solve for TC
And u get TO
which is the height of the original cone itself
ah
i see
i keep getting
13.25 as the total height
but its 18.7
3/7 = x (TC) / 8+x
chat gpt says you're right as well
no no no no
that isnt it
i just lie to have
more then one source
your answer made the most sense but its essentialy a 1v1 between you and the mark scheme
you get me?
The mark scheme makes less sense cause u see, its a triangle and almost all given side are integer
So the teacher must select those number so that the final result will be a whole number
Usually...
that's very true actually
yea you are
very correct all in all
alright thank you
the rest should be
easy to solve
i assume
Do u know how to solve for b
i hope
solve for the area of coxy
the shape
and then multiply by circumfrence?
its just a trapezoid right?
which is?
The cone volume = 1/3 of the cyclinder
gonna resend this so i dont have to scroll up to find it
AHHH
i see
well
OH
OHHHHHHHHH
that's so cool
And its easier to find the cylinder volume
well total height is 14
Cause its just the area of the circle * height
is it?
oh
cylinder
though toyu meant the cone
total area of the cylinder is 307.916
2/3 of that is
205.277333333
ccorrect?
So the frustum could be calculate by Volume of red - Volume of blue
i am doing things way too quickly right now
my apologies
yea
total area is 205.277333333
then
we find the area of the blue
volume*
which is just
holdon
we could do the same trick
area of circle * height * 2 all over 3
hold on i calculated it wrong
to begin with
Its 1/3
Cone = 1/3 * Cylinder
ah
Then we get the smaller cone
The one the frustum "delete" from the big one to the smaller one
Then u get the frustum volume
yes sir
so total area is 307.876666667and
the cone
the smaller cone
37.704
so answer is
270.172666667
i assume i
rushed and did something swrong so
let me revise my answer
yes sir i did
167.573333333
i think all is
correct and well
thank you very much for the help
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hi i dont quite understand how this is possible
i get the the first one is 1 out of 14 then 1 out of 13
but the second one, if 1 is already chosen, shouldn't there only be 13 choices?
or is it because BOB isn't guaranteed to be picked?
bob may not serve as an officer at all
its saying bob will only be an officer if he‘s president
so he cant be president
it took me forever to understand what this is saying
gotcha
so lets say you have 6 slots and 26 things you can fit in them in any order
would the possibilities be 6^26 or 26^6?
i think 26 * 25 * 24 * 23 * 22 * 21
yes that's if you can't reuse them
it says no person can do two jobs
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everything
You can start by taking LCM of 4 & 3
LCM is the smallest positive integer that is divisible by both the numbers
so LCM would be 12
so every 12 day both swimming and band practice lessons would come together
and now you just have to count, how many times does it repeat
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can i get an hint on how you are supposed to prove something like this
i mean like i can prove normal open sets but like the bounds change right
so a,b and c,d
if a < c then the new interval would be either c, b or c,d if c,d is a total subset of a,b
and like the intersection will always be open cause it never includes
someone help
ohh thats smart
i mean so like if you do this wouldn't you just be proving that $(max(a,c), min(b,d))$ is an open set then
SushiMan
yeah
with the max and min you just minize the cases thts very smart
rigorously consider $x \in I : \ \varepsilon = \min(x - \max(a,c); min(b,d) -x )$
there might be something even more clever, but for now u can consider that and work ur way out
yes thank you
Goëtia
also do you think this is concrete
i guess all these things follow the same format for the intersection right
but the union is probably weird
cause youre proving each set seperately
did u write this?
not really, depends on the proof
there is always a clever way, but if the professor gives something try to learn from it
yes i wrote this
yeah its from a tutorial worksheet
it contains some errors and unnecessary complexity
where in particular
let r = min(x-a, b-x)
consider y in (x-r, x+r)
x-r < y < x+r
a <= x-r (since x-a >= r)
wait whats wrong with those
then y in [a,b]
i just sorta wrote it similar to the way my prof wrote the proof for this one
u proved then (a,b) is open
mhm wym?
this is my prof proving that (0,1) is open
you think it'd be better to prove one of the cases like this
look at ur definition of r in each case in the proof
this is correct
oh shoot i made it the same
also this isnt my proof
but to make it more concrete do you think it'd be best to prove the other upperbound as well for each case or not nesscary
formulate a question, i dont understand what you need?
so in the proof, for case one you are prooving that x-r exists right, but would you have to prove that x+r also exist
cause in this proof i didnt really do that for either case, so it'd probably be best to do so right
this proof is invalid, because of the earlier reason i gave you, once you fix it , it will look like the proof ur professor gave
ok ok alright thank you
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confused on this step
so you’re fine with how they got 1/4 sin^2(2x) right?
just confused how they got to the next step?
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Yes right
ok well recall that cos(2x) = 1- 2sin^2(x)
if you don’t remember that version then you can derive it from cos(2x) = cos^2(x) - sin^2(x)
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oh man
bro
ok yeah i see i think
ok so you see how they got it?
well consider the fact that 4x = 2(2x)
so x -> 2x
we have cos(4x) = 1 - 2sin^2(2x)
remember x is just a variable
if it helps to see you can do some form of substitution like u = 2x
then cos(2u) = 1 - 2sin^2(u)
but u = 2x
so cos(4x) = 1 - 2sin^2(2x)
you’re welcome
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So I'm trying to solve a two variable word problem and I found a YouTube guide to setup a chart for it but the missing information is different and idk how to change it to make it work
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Bc you faced your phone downwards before you rotated it
But it doesnt look like this is all the information- one sec
why do you think you need 2 variables here?
Oh no im stupid
all the problems we've been doing this chapter have been. i asked chatgpt about it (ik bad idea for math cause its blatantly wrong a lot of the time) and it actually gets setup like this
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Why does it write it as integral x^2-19 times the integral of dx?
probably to make it more basic and show that it's an immediate integral
What does that mean
integral of dx is x
Oh
integral of 19dx is 19x, or 19 times the integral of dx
since the integral of a constant times a function is the constant times the integral of the function
So what did I do wrong here
Pearson is giving me whole number answers which I’m just not getting
,rotate
okay, first off, several notation errors
What’s wrong w 1/root42
where does it come from?
wait, what are you exactly calculating?
Average value of the function on the interval written
oh, not the plain integral. okay then
X^2-21 over 0 to root42
you need to be a bit more careful with the notation. Also, what you get is, indeed, an integer
you're two steps off the solution
Smfh bruh I just forgot to multiply it by root42
I multiplied 21*42 for part of my final answer 😐
Ik what to do
good, now do it :)
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Hi! If I have two sets, A=(1,2,2,3) and B=(2,3,4), the intersection of those sets is (2,3). The intersection operation does not include multiplicities. What if I wanted the result of my operation to be (2,2,3), including both times where an element from B showed up in A? Basically, I'm asking for A to be restricted by B, or for B to merely act as the set of elements that are "allowed" in A.
But using multiplicities doesn't work because I want the elements of B to kind of be ignored in the result. Like, I also don't want the result to be (1,2,2,2,3,3,4)
(This is for a formal proof, trying to make this happen with standard notation)
It's so easy in like python but I have no clue how to go about it this way lol
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What you call set A is not actually a set
I made the question up to explain what I am trying to do. The original statement I am trying to prove (using rigor - I know that it's pretty easy to solve straight up with the pigeonhole method) is "Show that if 7 integers are selected from the first 10 positive integers, there must be at least 2 pairs whose sum is 11."
my work in progress proof is as follows:
Let A = {1,2,3,4,5} and B = {6,7,8,9,10}
Let x ∈ A and y ∈ B
Let k = {(x, y) : x + y = 11}
∀x, ∃!y, x + y = 11
∴ |k| = 5
Let n = {a number of elements chosen at random from A ∪ B}
=> |n| - |k| ≤ |{(A x B) : A, B ∈ n} ∩ k| <-------- this basically calls on the pigeon hole principal
|n| = 7 => |{(A x B) : A, B ∈ n} ∩ k| ≥ 2
Thus, if 7 such integers are selected, at least 2 pairs will sum to 11.
There is one hole in my logic. The case where the two pairs whose sum is 11 are the same pair, i.e (1,10), (1,10). This creates a problem because
|{(A x B) : A, B ∈ n} ∩ k| will equal 1, not 2 because (1,10) will only appear once in the set {(A x B) : A, B ∈ n} ∩ k
That's where my question arises. I need a way to count both instances in the cases where the pairs are the same.
Also totally realizing I used () for A and B in the original quetion when obv I should have used {}. My b, sorry if that caused confusion!
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Is it wrong to find f-1(x) first?
I did this and it's not the right answer
^answer
Did I do something wrong in my algebra or is my approach inappropriate for the question
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i dont get what the solution is doing? how do i solve this...
Please don't occupy multiple help channels.
it just uses mean value theorem
f'(c) = [f(4) - f(0)] / (4 - 0)
Your problem gives as
f(x) = √(x)
Then, the given interval is [0,4] so,
f(0) = √(0) = 0
f(4) = √(4) = 2
ummm im not sure what to do next...
Use this formula
Ye
After you solve that fraction u should solve for c
Which you should get 1/2
so that supposed coordinate is c and c=1 --> point is (1,1)?
Ye
so to sum up the c value and the point that MVT guarantees will exist can be calculated using the equation (sent in the message)?
right?
yea sure
Alr hold on
Wait
It won't send
There you go @pallid stream
Apologies for my penmanship
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Hey, how do I determine the factor rings in this example? I think, I got the maximal and prime ideals correct.
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i think it's easiest just to think about what it should be
i.e. if you have Z/12 / (3)
what are the elements of this field, and it should be kinda clear what the answer should be
Is it like all m + (3) where m is in Z12?
I really dont have any intuition behind quotient rings or groups
I know, they're like all additive cosets of the ideal, but i dont know how to work with this defn
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the best way to think about quotient stuff is
G/H is "G with H killed"
so for example, Z[X]/(X^2) would be everything in Z[X]
but i treat X^2 = 0
unfortunately i have to dip now
btw if you don't get a response on uni mathematics like this, usually it's worth posting it in #groups-rings-fields instead
(you can still post it in the help channels, plenty of us who do uni mathematics still visit these help channels, but ur much more likely to get a faster response there)
Okey, thanks
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why is this wrong?
i dont get it
oh wait i need to use the product rule
ye i was confusing the product and the sum rule
there are too many rules
yes
gelukt?
yep
goudd
je kon ook gebruik maken van 2sin(x)cos(x) = sin(2x) 😉
dus 4 sin(x)cos(x) = 2 sin(2x)
ja maar die vergeet ik altijd
probeer ze te onhouden gaat enorm veel tijd schelen met bepaalde vragen
ja er zijn zo ongelooflijk veel regels
klopt maar de belangrijkste voor die zijn
cos²(x) + sin²(x)= 1
en dan de som regels
vanuit die kan je eigenlijk alle andere construeren
ja die ben ik ook weer al vergeten
ik ben echt slecht in deze dingen onthouden
lol
ja dat blijkt
ik vond wiskunde altijd wel leuk omdat het minder onthouden was en meer snappen
maar het wordt steeds meer onthouden
klopt maar het wordt ook steeds meer snappen
dus dat scheelt
het zal alsnog altijd veel minder onthouden zijn dan andere vakken
fair
@severe stone wat is hier niet goed aan dan
dit klopt toch gewooon
of moet ik hierbij ook product regel done
ah ja
sorry voor de ping
mknu maat
altijd product regel bij functies in de vorm van h(x)=f(x) * g(x)
en qoutient regel bij : h(x)= f(x)/g(x)
en je gebruikt kettingregel bij functies als h(x)= f(g(x))
ja
oke ja daar moet je rekening houden dat het een samengestelde functie is
alsin kettingregel?
precies
want normaal heb je alleen 2^x, maar nu heb je h(x)=f(g(x)), f(x) is 2^x en g(x)=x^4
dat deed ik maar dat was fout
kan je je werk laten zien?
moment dan reset ik de vraag ff dan kan ik het geformat doen
sgoed
ja
weet je wat de afgeleide is van h(x)=f(g(x))?
heb die haakjes alleen ff voor de duidelijkheid voor mezelf
kan begrijpen als je dat niet helemaal kan aangezien het beetje abstract is
f'(x) * g'(x) dacht ik
ja dat bedoel ik
is dat niet wat ik hier doe
ik onthou altijd buitenste gediff * binnesnste gediff
die 4^x^2 lijkt mij dan 2*4^x^1 * [4^x]' te worden
4
oh
dan zou het zijn 4x^3
