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strong grove
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why not?
a_n = a_1*r^n-1 is the nth term formula for gerometric series

warped relic
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you don't need succeeding terms though

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for r>1
sum of first n terms = a(r^n - 1)/(r-1)

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Can I simplify it to 2 x 10^5 x 8 x 10^3 x 1 x 10^2?

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And add the exponents togheter and multiply 8 by 2 and get 16 x 10^10

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My book says answer is 2,5x10^9

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dark kiln
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you can't

tribal holly
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so i put them from division

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to top

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and positive ^x

dark kiln
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1 / 8(10^−3) doesn;t become 8(10^3)

tribal holly
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before i did like this not same question

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you know where that rule is?

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manic prism
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i have this excel data. the hours have different column than the date month and time.. the excel have about 130445 values. i want o calculate daily , weekly and monthly data. please enlighten me with a formula

manic prism
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(average of ppb)

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(the column i selected)

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I have a question regarding improper integrals on a range on let's say 0 to 1, and where the integrand is not integrable by hand. How would you approach this? Let's say, is the integrand (sin x)/x^2 convergent or divergent on the range 0 to 1?

hard atlas
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try to compare it to a function you know about

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here for example it probably helps to write it as sin(x)/x * 1/x

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where sin(x)/x is continuous on the whole interval

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ivory trail
hard atlas
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if sin(x)/x is continuous over the closed interval, then its also bounded. so the important part here is the 1/x

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what do you know about the integral of that

ivory trail
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Not sure what you're getting at, as x approaches 0 then 1/x approaches infinity, and vice versa

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The integral is ln |x|

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Which isn't defined at 0

hard atlas
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so the integral of 1/x from 0 to 1 diverges

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I just realized you dont even need to write it as sin(x)/x * 1/x, writing it as sin(x)*1/x^2 also works

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but whatever

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sin(x)/x is bounded from below. lets say sin(x)/x > c for all x in [0,1]

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which means that sin(x)/x * 1/x is always at least c*1/x

storm forum
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I need a set of example proofs for limits that do not exist.

ivory trail
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bruh

storm forum
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my first year professors right now^

ivory trail
ivory trail
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I think

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I am clearly missing something abt improper integrals

hard atlas
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have you graphed the function

ivory trail
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I have

hard atlas
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do you know what it means if the integral diverges

ivory trail
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But I wanna learn to solve them without the graph

hard atlas
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well for 1/x you can just integrate it. like you did

ivory trail
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If it does not approach a number L then it diverges

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I guess the same is true as it approaches any number

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Would you take a look at another integral and tell me how you would solve it ?

hard atlas
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dont ask to ask

ivory trail
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ddiverges or converges ?

hard atlas
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hmm

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the sin(x) like before is bounded, so intuitively we can ignore it a bit

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then its roughly about 1/(1+x)

ivory trail
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sso your answer is converges ?

hard atlas
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well does the integral of 1/(1+x) converge?

ivory trail
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No it ddiverges

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But I can't for the life of me understand the reasoning behind it

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This is how the answer is explainedd: For all x => 1.
(2+sin x)/(1+x) => 1/(1+x) => 1/(2x) which means it is divergent

hard atlas
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its written as >=

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=> means "implies"

ivory trail
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That's not whaata I mean

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I meaan

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Equal or more than

hard atlas
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yes I know

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which is written as >=

ivory trail
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oh

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I see

hard atlas
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sin(x) is >= -1

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so 2+sin(x) is >= 1

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that gives you the first inequality

ivory trail
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great

hard atlas
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and if x>=1, then 1+x<=x+x, so 1/(1+x) >= 1/(2x)

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alternatively you could also integrate 1/(1+x)

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the point is that they already know either way that it diverges

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whether 1/(1+x) or 1/(2x)

ivory trail
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and because the integral of 1/(1+x) diverges that means because of the inequality that the first function also ddiverges

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It makes a ton of sense

hard atlas
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yes

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because its bigger. so the area under the graph will be "more"

ivory trail
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Idk why I haven't run into this

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In the calc book

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Well I found where I can readd more about it, thanks for your help this was a pain trying to figure out

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mellow geode
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helo

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mellow geode
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[ D = \begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 4 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 3
\end{bmatrix} ]

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lilisworld

mellow geode
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[ V = L^T ]

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lilisworld

mellow geode
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[ V = D^{-1} U ]

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mellow geode
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how do i solve Ax = b by using L and D?

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potent field
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3 √(64)

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[ V = D^{-1} U ]

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faint carbon
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what did i mess up?

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faint carbon
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nvm

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math error

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why wouldnt this work?

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this only gets worse
Differentiate integrate

  • e^12x x dx
  • e^12x *12 x^2 /2
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ohhhhh

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i did a typo

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1/144

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what should i do

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diff 64x?

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faint carbon
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im stuck

wide lance
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and sometimes a certain part of the integral keeps coming back

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and then you substract that from your original integral

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but first work out the integral e^4x 4cos4xdx

faint carbon
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but is it good so far?

wide lance
faint carbon
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ok

wide lance
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i don't think the 4 at the front needs to be there

faint carbon
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i struggle with picking what to integrate

wide lance
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cus you already used it to integrate 4e^4xdx

wide lance
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if one doesn't work, just choose the other 😭

faint carbon
wide lance
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so either you factor it or you use it to integrate 4e^4xdx

faint carbon
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wait

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lemme retry

wide lance
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apologies if i'm wrong

faint carbon
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ye i made a error

wide lance
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yeah you might as well put the 4 back in now 😭

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which makes e^4x sin4x - integral e^4x 4cos4x dx

faint carbon
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?

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Factor the 4
4 integral e^4x sin4x dx
Differentiate integrate

  • sin4x e^4x
  • 4cos4x 1/4 e^4x

4(1/4 e^4x sin4x - integral 1/4 e^4x 4cos4x)
e^4x sin4x - integral e^4x 4cos4x dx
Now do it again
Differentiate integrate

  • 4cos4x e^4x
  • -16sin4x 1/4 e^4x
  • -64cos4x stop

1/4 e^4x 4cos4x + integral 1/4 e^4x 16sin4x
e^4x sin4x - (1/4 e^4x 4cos4x + integral 1/4 e^4x 16sin4x)
it wont end lol

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vast shale
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Can anyone give me a hard factorization to practice?

pale perch
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at what level

vast shale
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like 5x³ + 2x² + 5x + 5

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livid tapir
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google

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Is this correct?

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!status

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
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3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
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5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
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river spear
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sage wind
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First what are all the roots of f'(x) that lie in the interval [0,10]

river spear
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the roots are the critical points right

sage wind
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Yes

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Not always

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The roots of f' are the critical points

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The roots of a function g(x) in general are the values of x that satisfy the equation g(x)=0

river spear
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yea

sage wind
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So the roots of f'(x) are the values of x that satisfy f'(x)=0 which are critical points of f

river spear
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so i have to have find what x make f'(x)=0

sage wind
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Yes

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That's the first step

river spear
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since the question is allowing calculators

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i can use a graphing calculator right

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it would be 0, pi, 2pi, 3pi

sage wind
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Correct

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Now what is the variation of the sign of f'(x) according to the graph in your hands

river spear
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wdym?

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i dont understand your question

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you mean the slope of the graph

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from [0,10]

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?

sage wind
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My question is when is f' positive and when it is negative

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Check this for the interval [0,10]

river spear
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its positive from (0,1.84) (4.82,7.92)

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and negative from (1.84,4.82) and (7.92,10)

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idk if that answers your question

sage wind
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What is the meaning of a function being positive or negative graphically

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You still there

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@river spear

river spear
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yea

sage wind
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The slope of what

river spear
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the graph

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oh wait

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nvm

sage wind
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You mean to say the slope of tangent so the derivative ??

river spear
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yea

sage wind
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Wrong

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The sign of the derivative determines if the function is increasing decreasing or having a critical point

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If you want to find the sign of f'

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Then you should look when it is above the x-axis ,when it intersects it and when it is below it

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Why because the x-axis has equation y=0

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here y=f'(x) right

river spear
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yes

sage wind
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Ok

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So when is f'(x) positive and when it is negative ?

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in other words when is f'>0 and when is f'<0

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Use the graph

river spear
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isnt that what i put earlier tho

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i put the intervals of when it was increasing and decreasing

sage wind
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No what you put earlier was when f' was increasing and when f' was decreasing

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So you basically got when the slope is positive and when the slope is negative

river spear
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yea

sage wind
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You don't want the sign of the slope of f'

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You want the sign of f' itself

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So go to the graph check when the curve of f' is above x axis and when it is below it

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Then tell me if it is the same as before or no

river spear
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so it would be (0,pi) and (2pi,3pi) for positive and (pi,2pi) and (3pi,10) for negative right?

sage wind
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Yes

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Ok now

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we know that the critical points of f are the points with abscissas x=0,π,2π,3π right

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And we know the sign of f'

river spear
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what is abscissas

sage wind
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x coordinate

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a point in xy plane is determined by (x,y) x is called abscissa and y is called ordinate

river spear
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oh ok

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so yea we know the critical points and sign of f'

sage wind
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From the sign of f' we know the sign of the slope of the curve of f right

river spear
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yea

sage wind
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So we know when f is increasing and when it is decreasing

river spear
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yes

sage wind
river spear
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thats what i put earlier right

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increasing from (0,1.84) (4.82,7.92)

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and decreasing from (1.84,4.82) and (7.92,10)

sage wind
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No

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What you put earlier was for f' not for f

sage wind
river spear
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how do i do that if i dont know the function of f

sage wind
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You don't need to

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You need to know sign of f'

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f is increasing when f'>0 and f is decreasing when f'<0

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And f has critical points when f'=0

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Thats why I asked you to get sign of f'

sage wind
river spear
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isnt it what you just said

sage wind
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What did I say

sage wind
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Yes

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When does that happen

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Tell me the intervals where f is increasing and the ones where f is decreasing

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@river spear

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Sorry for the ping but I gtg soon it's too late in my time and battery if phone is dying

river spear
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its alr

sage wind
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So what did you get

river spear
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wouldnt the intervals where f' is increasing be the same intervals where f is increasing?

sage wind
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No

river spear
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but f' is the slope of f

sage wind
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The intervals where f is increasing are the same intervals where f'>0

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The slope increasing doesn't mean the slope is positive

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It can increase from -10 to -2 for example

sage wind
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To know whether f is increasing or decreasing we care for the sign of f'

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We care if f'>0 or f'<0 not whether f' is increasing or f' is decreasing

river spear
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like this?

sage wind
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Exactly you need to check if f' changes from positive to negative or from negative to positive

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In either case it will pass through a 0

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But the difference is whether it is a minimum or maximum

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If it changes from negative to positive then it is minimum for curve of f

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If it changes from positive to negative then it is a maximum for curve of f

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Now I gtg sleep byee

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alr

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ty for the help

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i need help on #3 and #5

ebon rapids
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Were you able to solve #4? Because solving #3 is basically identical

gentle flint
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yes, for that i got 7.

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i mean

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neg 7

ebon rapids
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ok was about to say

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so yeah

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Just do the same thing for #3

gentle flint
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i did, but i got 14 and it was marked wrong.

ebon rapids
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Show your work

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I think I know where you messed up but just to be sure

gentle flint
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CST (please ping when replying)

gentle flint
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OHHH

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okay

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now i got -238

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which looks wrong but i dont know

ebon rapids
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You’re good

gentle flint
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okay! what about #5?

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for that one i got three but i think its because i forgot how to find the inverse of a function

ebon rapids
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What inverse did you get

gentle flint
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i just said -(2*-2+1)

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CST (please ping when replying)

ebon rapids
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show your work

gentle flint
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okay one second

ebon rapids
gentle flint
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ah.

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i dont know how they work

ebon rapids
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if y=f(x), and f is one-to-one, then $f^{-1}(y)=x$

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CST (please ping when replying)

gentle flint
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okay i tried putting it into desmos because i couldn't do it algebraic

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but i got -1

ebon rapids
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gentle flint
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OH

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okay i got -1.5

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is this correct?

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if its not im going to do a backflip into the atlantic ocean

ebon rapids
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It is correct

gentle flint
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thank you sm 😭

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but now i dont know how to close the channel :|

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Idk how to make the system of equations

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!show

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Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

hasty lark
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You should have a diagram to work from!

fallen sandal
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Uhhh

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Wdym

hasty lark
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Draw a picture of the situation described

fallen sandal
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I made like a line looking thing

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Cliff on left side

hasty lark
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Label key elements with variables

fallen sandal
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Seabed on other

hasty lark
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List what you know

fallen sandal
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Idk how to lable

hasty lark
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You should send this to me

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You know how to label. You just give a letter to a quantity of interest

fallen sandal
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My lightning is bad😭

fallen sandal
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Do o lable the average speeds

hasty lark
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Mhmm, you are missing air-water interface

fallen sandal
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Idk how big to make each section

hasty lark
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It doesn't matter

fallen sandal
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Oh

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ok added

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Now wat

hasty lark
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Now make up names for the relevant quantities

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distances, times, speeds

fallen sandal
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howw

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a=16m/s

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Idk

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Is that an actual fraction I gotta use

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Idk

hasty lark
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Look at your diagram. Are there distances that you don't know but want to know?

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Times? etc

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just start naming stuff

fallen sandal
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I guess how long each was

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Time in air

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And

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Water

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good! now write down letters for each of those on your diagram

fallen sandal
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Ok

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A+w=12

hasty lark
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those are the times?

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What about the distances?

fallen sandal
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Idk

fallen sandal
hasty lark
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name em and come up with a relationship

fallen sandal
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In seconds

hasty lark
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good

fallen sandal
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IDK how to name them

hasty lark
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you can call them whatever you want

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Here, I'll help: $d_{air}$

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Xenophon

hasty lark
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this is the straight line distance of the air segement of the fall

fallen sandal
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Uhhh i think I'm only supposed to use 2 variables idk

hasty lark
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no!

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Use as many variables as you need

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They will be eliminated as you solve the problem

fallen sandal
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ok so d_water too I guess

hasty lark
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Great

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what do you know about the sum of the two distances?

fallen sandal
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127

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Meters

hasty lark
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alright, you should have 2 equations written on your page

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right?

fallen sandal
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no

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do I add the two distanced

hasty lark
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yes!

fallen sandal
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distances

hasty lark
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You have an equation with time and an equation with distances

fallen sandal
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ok now what

hasty lark
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So, now we use the speeds

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Do you know what the definition of speed is?

fallen sandal
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No

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I'm like 95% I'm only supposed to use 2 variables

fallen sandal
hasty lark
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If you can solve the problem with two variables, then more power to you

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ok, speed is distance travelled over a timeframe

fallen sandal
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So cool

hasty lark
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so 16 m/s means travelling 16 m in 1 sec

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Makes sense?

fallen sandal
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Yes

hasty lark
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$s=\Delta d / \Delta t$

twin meteorBOT
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Xenophon

hasty lark
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there

fallen sandal
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So wat

hasty lark
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delta means change in

fallen sandal
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Ik

hasty lark
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Now, you have two distances, and two times

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If you look back at the question, you're also given two speeds

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You can use the speeds to write two new equations

fallen sandal
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Again😭

hasty lark
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How old are you?

fallen sandal
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15

hasty lark
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Ok, so you may not know, but math is kinda full of equations

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it's almost the point of it

fallen sandal
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ok wat the next step

hasty lark
fallen sandal
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No

hasty lark
fallen sandal
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I can only think of one

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One

hasty lark
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which one?

fallen sandal
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Like

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waitt

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Nvm

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Idk how to write it😭

hasty lark
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On your diagram, did you write down the speeds next to the relevant section?

fallen sandal
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Yes

hasty lark
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There's a speed in the water and a speed in air

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okay, speed is distance/time, right?

fallen sandal
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Ik

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Yes

hasty lark
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so $s_{air} = ?$

fallen sandal
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So like

twin meteorBOT
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Xenophon

fallen sandal
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dair/a

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Uhhh

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I put

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D_air

hasty lark
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yes!

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You can do the same thing for water

fallen sandal
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Ok

hasty lark
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You should soon have 4 total equations

fallen sandal
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What does this equal

hasty lark
fallen sandal
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dair/a+dwater/w

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Why do I even need this if it tells me the speed

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mhm, I didn't say to sum up the speeds

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we know s_air

fallen sandal
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Idk what to make equation of

fallen sandal
hasty lark
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yes, the problem gives it

fallen sandal
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Wait what is s

hasty lark
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speed in the air

fallen sandal
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Oh

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16

hasty lark
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yep, so that would give you 16m/s = d_air/a

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where a is the time in the air

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Write a similar equation for the water and send me a picture of all your equations

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and your diagram

fallen sandal
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Idk😭

hasty lark
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ok, you are like 90% of the way there

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The key thing before you start trying to solve is to count your equations and your unknowns

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How many equations do you have?

fallen sandal
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Oh accidentally wrote s with the 16m

fallen sandal
hasty lark
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and how many unknowns?

fallen sandal
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6

hasty lark
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no, only 4

fallen sandal
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how

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M

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S

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W

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A

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Dair

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a, w, $d_{water}, d_{air}$

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Xenophon

fallen sandal
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Dwater

hasty lark
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m and s are units of measure

fallen sandal
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e

hasty lark
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meters and seconds

fallen sandal
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But aren't they an unknown

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Idk

hasty lark
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no

fallen sandal
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ok now what

hasty lark
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they are just like miles or hours

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now, since the number of unknowns and the number of equations is equal, you can solve for everything using algebra

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You want A and w, so try to solve for them

fallen sandal
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How this look so weird

hasty lark
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The speed equations can be used to write the distances in terms of speed*time

fallen sandal
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wat

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16a

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3w

hasty lark
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yes

fallen sandal
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Why didn't we just use that in the first place😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

hasty lark
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You could have, but did you know that just by reading the question?

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You still need to solve for a and w

fallen sandal
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Uhhh

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How

hasty lark
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use the two remaining equations

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and the d_air=16a relationship

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and the d_water=3w equation

fallen sandal
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but mine doesn't say that

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It says d_air/a=16a

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I meant

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ok that

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NO

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WHY

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oh

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ok

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It has that

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Not wat u wrote

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Fr

hasty lark
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d_air=16a

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this is the right equation

fallen sandal
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i don't have thar

hasty lark
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yes, you do! it's the same as 16 = d_air/a

fallen sandal
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u just said speed*time is the same as the distance thingy

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So I changed it

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Cuz it was same

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I didn't know we got rid of the a divisor thing

hasty lark
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It's one equation, I just wanted you to solve for the distance

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Then you can plug the distance into the other equation involving the distances

fallen sandal
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So does 16a+3w=127

hasty lark
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yes

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now you have two equations with two unknowns

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You can solve by elimination or substitution

fallen sandal
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Uhhh I'll eliminate w

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Uhh

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Got

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13a=90

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😭

hasty lark
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why are you sad, you're almost done

fallen sandal
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is a = 90/13

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@hasty lark

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I don't think I can simply that fr

hasty lark
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I think it's 91 instead of 90

fallen sandal
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oh

hasty lark
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but you don't need to simplify further

fallen sandal
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Yeah I messed up fr

hasty lark
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Just solve for w

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using your value for a

fallen sandal
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a=7

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W=9

hasty lark
fallen sandal
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Is the w correct

hasty lark
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12-7=?

fallen sandal
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where 12 from

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Oh

hasty lark
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a+w=12

fallen sandal
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Oh

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I put 16

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Instead of 12

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Dhdbdud

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W=5

hasty lark
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yep

fallen sandal
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They way I was supposed to do with just 2 variables was faster I think😭

hasty lark
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sigh

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Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.

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And slow is better than never.

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The way I showed you is the same as this solution. I just showed every step so that you actually learn the method

fallen sandal
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Uhh only thing I learned was speed*time is distance

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I knew everything already but I didn't know how to write the distances as like into an equation

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That's y I kept saying idk how to label it

hasty lark
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Honestly, you're young so I won't take it personally, but if someone takes 30-40 minutes to help you, you should probably not then go on to talk about how slow their method is.

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If you don't know how to label it, you're very far from worrying about how fast the solution is

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So, I did the work and got c = 3/16

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But Im not sure if thats right?

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I had the same problem earlier just different numbers, and did the same process, but that answer was wrong, so thats why Im confused

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2c + 6/x^4
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How do i calculate a by hand (question is attached)

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$a^2=b^2+c^2-2bc\cos(A)$

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such a relation is known as the law of cosines

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PajamaMamaLlama

soft walrus
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simple letting A=90, gives you the Pythagorean Theorem :)

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soft walrus
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including all the other sides/angles/area/perimeter

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Need to learn unit of circle

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$\frac{2}{15}$?

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PajamaMamaLlama

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,list

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,help tex

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bro wtf how i write equation

soft walrus
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can you send an image?

shell schooner
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oh my

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Do i need learn coding to do math in this server

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😭

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I was under the impression you had to find two radiuses to do this?

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or is that only when rotating around a non axis?

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In the case of the "washer method" your f(x) and g(x) is your 2 radii if that's what you're asking

vagrant vapor
outer pendant
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Nah basically because since when you rotate it there will be a hole in the middle

vagrant vapor
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or wrong

outer pendant
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Oh yea that's right

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You'll always be rotating around a line but you'll only have 2 radii when you're given 2 functions

vagrant vapor
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Okay

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round ridge
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you forgot to substract the 3 on y=3 I think

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and that's why you got the 9

vagrant vapor
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would i tnot be like this

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for the two radii

round ridge
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it would just be (3-tan^2(x))^2

vagrant vapor
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what about the big radii?

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3^2?

round ridge
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?? what big radius
as dx tends to zero, the radius is equal to 3-tan^2(x)

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then you integrate over every radius

vagrant vapor
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ok

round ridge
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picture the volume of revolution around that line

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isn't the radius always the difference between 3 and tan^2(x)?

vagrant vapor
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okay

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still says its wrong for some reason :/

round ridge
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you're missing pi

vagrant vapor
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oh yea

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ok thanks

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np

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so s(t) = r(t) - r(0), right?

worthy sparrow
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well

plush roost
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wait so am i right?

worthy sparrow
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let me check arc length formula

proven garden
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s(t) is a number while r(t)-r(0) is a vector

plush roost
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oh wait, it would just be the integral of two bounds of sqrt(149), right?

worthy sparrow
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yea

plush roost
worthy sparrow
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maybe

plush roost
plush roost
worthy sparrow
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ill connect another highly experienced mathemetician to help you

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@mild flower

proven garden
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just evaluate the given integral

plush roost
proven garden
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how

mild flower
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there's an absolute value sign

plush roost
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oh didn't even see that

proven garden
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also it's v(t) not r(t)

plush roost
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wait im a little confused on what to do now because of the absolute value.

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so the antiderivative of v(tao) is r(tao), right?

plush roost
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find v, then find its magnitude

plush roost
mild flower
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no

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v is a vector-valued function

plush roost
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v(t) = < -10sin(t), 10cos(t), 7 >, right?

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just the derivative of r(t) given in the question

mild flower
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oh i see

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yeah ok yes sqrt(149)

plush roost
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right? So wouldn't |v(t)| be sqrt149?

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oh okay

mild flower
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i didn't expect it all to drop out lol

plush roost
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so is s(t) = sqrt(149) * t?

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im just kinda confused where to go from here

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plush roost
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so then to length of the curve r(t) from 0 to pi/6 is just the integral of of sqrt(149) t from 0, pi/6, right?

mild flower
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yep

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it makes sense that it's constant speed since it's going in a helix

plush roost
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i hope im not bothering you too much, but what did i do wrong?

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oh wait, is the answer 149pi/6?

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nvm i got it. thank you so much!

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I got a huge problem in my thinking
When having exercice about euclidean Division I don't know what to do each NEW exercice

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How i can train myself to this ? I don't want to check Each fuckin time the correction

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Ex 84 where I'm blocked

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It piss me off because i'm sure if I'm doing a new type of exercice I will flop like shit

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a = bq + r

modern steppe
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I had this problem since September

modern steppe
paper depot
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well

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you want quotient = 2*remainder

modern steppe
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i know 0 <= r < b

paper depot
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q = 2r

modern steppe
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hm yeah ?

paper depot
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n = 4q + r

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with q = 2r

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Oh

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and r goes from 0 to 3 inclusive

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I just remplace q by 2r ?

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yes of course

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the problem explicitly says this

modern steppe
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wait that it ?

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i sware

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(thanks u)

paper depot
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that's pretty much it yes

modern steppe
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How can I train this ?

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how can i fix it ?

modern steppe
paper depot
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yes

paper depot
modern steppe
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So if I understand your thinking

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U translated the exercice into something u can work

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then u remplace q by 2r bcs it's what the exercice said

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u finish by n = 9r but what It prove ?

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how i can be sure it's it ?

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hm I will figure it out
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Let's say we have 2(24x-8x^2)^0.5 = 24 -16x
To simplify this statement, apparently I can divide both sides by 4, which leaves me with (6x-2x^2)^0.5 = 6 - 4x.
I do not understand how the division works on the left side. I assume it is (24x-8x^2)^0.5 / 2 = (24x-8x^2)^0.5 / 2^0.5 * 2^0.5.
However I can't remember using this before, where can I read more about this or can someone help explain this to me

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use $a=\sqrt{a^2}$

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proven garden
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so $\frac{1}{2}=\sqrt{\frac{1}{4}}$

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Makes sense, idk why I am not familiar with it

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I have a further question, Let's say I solve 2(24x-8x^2)^0.5 = 24 -16x and find that x is either 1 or 2.
Now I have to plug these values into the function and see if they're true roots, how can if I plug 2 into the function I get the answer 2 = -2?

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how'd you get 2 = -2

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please show your work

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so x=2 is not a solution

ivory trail
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Why is x = 2 popping up as a root if it is not a solution

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I assume that x^0.5 creates this issues somehow

proven garden
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I didn't see your steps but

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squaring create extra solutions

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like x=1 when you square it you get x^2=1

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alright yeah it was pretty much what I was wondering

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so always good to check the answers

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Hello, I need help with integrals understanding

left perch
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I have this question ∫-x^1.5 dx

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when I used the power rule, I'm given -(x^2.5)/2.5

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However using online calculators, they give me the answer of -(2/5)x^2.5

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1/2.5 = 2/5

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$\frac{1}{2.5} = \frac{2\cdot 1}{2\cdot 2.5}$

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Ah okay I understand now

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VOXIOM

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Hu

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What's your question?

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Hi

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Yeah

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I’m on 3

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"I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong"
Got what answer to what question?

mild bolt
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For question 15

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The correct answer is supposed to be 270

river minnow
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Part a or part b?

mild bolt
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Part a

paper depot
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just 270?

river minnow
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I believe there should be a pi in there

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So for part a the correct anwser is 270pi

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Cm square

river minnow
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And what did you get?

mild bolt
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But I got 432pi…

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Since we gotta find the total surface area

river minnow
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I can't really see what the height of the cone is indicated to be

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Does it say 12cm?

mild bolt
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Yeah

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Wait you need the height

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Don’t you only need the slant length

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And the radius

river minnow
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Right

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I guess the slant is 12cm

mild bolt
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Yeah

river minnow
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So should be 2pi * 81 + pi * 9 * 12

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Which is 270pi, how'd you get 432pi?

mild bolt
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I used these

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So for the triangle i got 189 pi

river minnow
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You shouldn't be adding the surface area of the bottom of the hemisphere in this case

mild bolt
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And for the hemisphere i got 243 pi

river minnow
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Same for the cone

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You included the an extra circle twice

mild bolt
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????

river minnow
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See that circle of radius 9 that connects the cone and the hemisphere?

mild bolt
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Yes

river minnow
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You added its surface area twice

mild bolt
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OHH

river minnow
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Meanwhile that circle is not even on the surface of the entire figure

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So just do (4pir^2) * 1/2 + pi * r * l

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just need help with b

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i dont understand it

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What's confusing you in particular?

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the process, i've gone from finding dy/dx with just x's in the brackets

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but now its trig

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wait sorry, thats wrong

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Do you know chain rule?

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i got it wrong because they added -ln

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with derivatives

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Hello! I really want someone to explain how to simplify this question

tidal dock
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have you tried completing the square?

atomic jetty
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how did that go?

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I may have messed it up , i didnt get anything

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Yo can anyone help me

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artemetra

atomic jetty
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@tidal dock

tidal dock
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completing the square

atomic jetty
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How you complete square

tidal dock
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$(a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2$\
Consider $3-2\sqrt{2}$. $a^2 + b^2 = 3$, $2ab = -\sqrt{2}$, solving this system will get you $(\sqrt{2}-1)^2$

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artemetra

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this won't work for the first fraction tho

atomic jetty
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$\sqrt{\sqrt{5}+2}+\sqrt{\sqrt{5}-2}$

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artemetra

tidal dock
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square this and take the square root

atomic jetty
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I think both of them work

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And it wont affect the problem

tidal dock
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yea

tidal dock
atomic jetty
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2root5 + 2

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And all under root

tidal dock
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yes

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so you get $\sqrt{2\sqrt{5}+2}$

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artemetra

tidal dock
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then you can factor out root2

atomic jetty
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Yes

tidal dock
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and from there you can easily get the result

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Hey

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But why i get 2root2 - 1 if i take this 1-root2

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The problem is still not solved

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Which term should be negative and which one should be positive in the 2nd term

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@tidal dock

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you should get $\frac{\sqrt{2}\sqrt{\sqrt{5}+1}}{\sqrt{\sqrt{5}+1}} - (\sqrt{2} - 1)$

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artemetra

tidal dock
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and you can most definitely simplify that

atomic jetty
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But i have trouble with this

tidal dock
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i showed you how

atomic jetty
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Wait let me write and show you

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See

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If i alternate the values than the values of N also differ

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What is the right value of this term

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How is the 1st one incorrect

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Because it is also possible , isnt it?

tidal dock
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because 1-sqrt(2) is negative

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and the result of a square root can't be negative

atomic jetty
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Oh i get it

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Thanks

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hope this helped

atomic jetty
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How do i end this thread?

atomic jetty
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.close

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Can someone tell me how to solve this without a calculator cos(arctan(1/2))=?

river minnow
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First it would be nice tot have cos(arctan(x)) simplified

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arctan(x) represents an angle whose tan is equal to x, right?

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What does that imply cos to be equal to

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I made a mistake btw

river minnow
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Hm?

cursive fern
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I corrected it now

river minnow
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Ah

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Alright

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So draw any right triangle where one of the sides has tan equal to 1/2