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rose raft
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yes

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silk canopy
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(Yes)

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is the answer 1

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lime gorge
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U can use an online calculator for this kind of stuff

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It’s just manual computation

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Or just do it in bots

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lime gorge
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Just use a normal calculator if online software doesn’t work

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Unless u want us to check ur work

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That’s something that would be more appropriate

silk canopy
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i will buy a calculator

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but will u be willing to check this specific q?

lime gorge
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Here use this

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alr

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ty

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This is good for this kind of stuff

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Just make sure to put the degrees symbol

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For circumference we need the two side lengths

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Area which is given is their product

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Lets call the sides a and b

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A=a*b

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C=2a+2b

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To get a and b, we have to factor the area

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For example
2x^2+5x+3=(x+1)(2x+3)

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Do you know how to divide a polynomial by another polynomial?

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Oh lol

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That is weird haha

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Seems a bit advanced for 8th grade

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We can start by guessing a root of the polynomial

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Divisors of the constant are good ideas

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For example 3

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If we find such a root and call it p then we can factor out the term (x-p)
That will be what we are after

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For that factoring we need polynomial division

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But i doubt you are supposed to do that in 8th grade

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  1. Here are some timetable information from the local train station.
  • Journey C lasts twice as long as Journey D.
  • Taking Train A halves the duration of Journey B.
  • Train C reduces the duration of Journey D by five hours.
  • Journey A and Journey B last for eight hours.
  • Taking Train B halves the duration of Journey A and Journey C.
  • Journey B lasts half the duration as Journey D.
    Based on the information above, please answer the four questions listed below.
  1. Taking Train B will reduce the duration of Journey C by twelve hours.
     a. True b. False c. Insufficient Information
  2. Journey D lasts for 18 hours.
     a. True b. False c. Insufficient Information
  3. Taking Train C will reduce the duration of Journey D to eleven hours.
     a. True b. False c. Insufficient Information
  4. Taking appropriate Train, Journey D lasts longer than Journey A.
     a. True b. False c. Insufficient Information
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tf

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whats your question

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orchid hill
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anybody got ability to do 4x4 matrix multiplication

orchid hill
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i struggle

golden iron
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you can have a computer do this if you need to check your work

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but if you're expected to be able to do it on paper then you just have to practice

orchid hill
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did via calc but website i regularly use says differently

golden iron
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can you show your work?

orchid hill
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had to inverse t2 then mult by t1

golden iron
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lol i thought you meant calculation

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but thanks for the pic of your calculator haha

orchid hill
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no calc did it but lmao unsure if righht

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chatgpt shit at maths

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ah u ty

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i see issue thx

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it's not the purpose of any "llm" to be correct in a sense

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they've been taught to sound like they're using language

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which has uses

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but math is certainly not one of them

orchid hill
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oh

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even though they use so much math to work haha

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forest root
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can anyone help with the next steps with this u-subsitition problem

forest root
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do i sub u = pi/3*ln(x) back into the equation

full arch
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looks good so far

full arch
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the same way you would sin(x) dx

forest root
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like -cos(u) ?

full arch
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yep

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and then it turns out quite nice

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gj

forest root
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something liek this?

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then do i sub in u = pi/3*ln(x) or just plug pi/3 and 0 into u

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like -cos(pi/3) + cos(0)

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Can someone explain this to me. Solution in green and my working is in purple

hearty storm
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I don’t understand them using Y(s) instead of L(y(t)). Say I want to keep it as L(y(t)) then should our formula in red be d/dt? Instead of d/ds?

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low seal
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approximate area under the graph of f(x)=x*(2^x), x∈[-1,2], six subintervals, right endpoints

golden iron
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do you have any work?

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make sure you have right-point type selected in the dropdown

low seal
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it gave the same answer i had before, (13(sqrt2)/8)+5, or 7.298

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which was wrong

golden iron
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the right-sum shouldn't include -1

low seal
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it does include 2

golden iron
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yes

low seal
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hmm

golden iron
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x1, ..., x6 = -1/2, 0, 1/2, ..., 2

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is there an answer key, how do you know this is incorrect?

low seal
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its an online portal

golden iron
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does it expect an exact answer? or does it say to round decimal points

low seal
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i tried both

golden iron
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if you could get a picture of the og question that would be great

low seal
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i think its decimal

golden iron
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yeah i would expect decimal

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is there a rounding convention from class or the portal expects?

low seal
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usually 2 or 3 decimal places but i just tried more in case

golden iron
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yeah i don't know then. hopefully it's just a bug :/

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vast shale
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How does this function have a limit

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vast shale
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Horizontal asymptote

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But that's y so what about x

flat whale
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The first term goes to zero because the denominator's degree is higher than the numerator's

vast shale
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wowee

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That's so cool

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If the degree of denominator is higher than the numerator it always has a horizontal asymptote at y = 0

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Messed around with desmos

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Alright thanks

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How can I calculate this when I don’t have the value of x1?

rose raft
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what is the top

gaunt panther
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sry

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rose raft
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oh

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are you solving a or b

gaunt panther
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b

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look at my workings

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gaunt panther
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And set 2x-3 = 0

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And that would give an estimate of x1?

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So x = 3/2

dull bear
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I mean, I guess you could choose x1 as 3/2, but then, ergh

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plain minnow
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Plots are friends not foes

gaunt panther
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I didn’t see the graph

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Mb

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Yh calm that makes sense

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Thank u chartbit

dull bear
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[just so happens that 3/2 is pretty good of a choice anyway catGiggle]

wraith python
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Use Picard's Method.

gaunt panther
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It’s cool

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I’m acc learning about it now for the first time

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Hello is 2pi/4 in 90 degrees in the unit circle?

unreal heart
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pi/2 is 90 degrees yes

exotic peak
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okay thank youuu!

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if you ever need a conversion the formula is radians*180/pi

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Howdy

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I just need some help with like 3 questions. All geometry related

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Let ABCD be an isosceles trapezoid with bases AD = 21 and BC = 9. Given
that the altitude of the trapezoid is 8, find its circumradius.

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This is what I have so far

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i've been trying to figure this out for like an hour. im not even sure where to begin as theres literally not a single problem thats similar to that in my textbook. tried doing something with harmonic mean, geometric mean etc but didnt get to the answer

if a+b=12 then find the max value of a^2+3ab+b^2

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b = 12-a

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Then you just have to maximize:
a² + 3a(12-a) + (12-a)²

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charred echo
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yes i realised that and felt stupid af

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ah.

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it was just in the section with geometric, harmonic etc means and thought i had to use those

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to integrate ln x all squared is the best way by parts

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nvm

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hushed atlas
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would u set u as lnx squared or just lnx

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if u do the latter u have to integrate lnx which is by parts again

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idk im seeing different methods in diff places so not sure which is better

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which part?

polar ivy
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everything

rapid swift
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asking someone to do your exam for you

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while having absolutely nothing to go off

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I mean cmon

polar ivy
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its nit my test

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it was a q one of my friends gave me

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but idk how to do it

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and if its a test, i would do it in class in exam conditions

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What is the volume of the work envelope of a Cartesian
robot whose x,y,z axes each have maximum reach 1.2m
and maximum stroke 80cm?

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unsure whats l x b x h in this

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I have a question

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is Un∼An => |Un|∼|An|

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yes

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|U_n|/|A_n| = |U_n/A_n| -> |1| = 1

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ah yes

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aight cool thanks

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how do i do questin 9

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Is this how you do it?

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i know the max and min are 8 and 1, respectively

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I'm trying to understand generally how to show a polynomial contained in Z_p is irreducible

I understand fundamentally you first substitute integers 0 up to p-1 and show that f(x), our polynomial, is not equal to 0 for any of these values, but its the next stage which confuses me,

that being "showing a polynomial is not the product of irreducible polynomials"

i.e, say deg( f(x) ) = 7. we have to show that there is no possible irreducible pair of polynomials with respective degrees 6 and 1, 5 and 2, or 4 and 3. while 6 and 1 can be trivial by looking at coefficients, the remaining have always had 'tricks' to them that ive never understood

i.e, when we specifically work in Z_2, i have the corollary "In Z_2, x^2 and (x^2 + x + 1) are the ONLY irreducible quadratics in Z_2". Which is fine, but I don't really have anything else for, say, Z_7 or Z_191. Is there a way I can approach this stage more generally, rather than using corollaries such as the one above?

half imp
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Over a field every linear polynomial has a root

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Thus, any reducible polynomial of degree 2 or 3 has a root

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oh, so you can very easily deduce deg2 and deg3 polynomials with just that?

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would you then, like

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apply that idea to polynomials of higher degrees

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rearrange them into other polynomials and see if they are reducible

half imp
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It only works to show they don't have degree 1 factors

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so for degree 7 you'd still need to check 2+5 and 3+4

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Which doing that manually sounds

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really horrible

sage burrow
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it is and i'm expected to do it anguish

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i'll show you a past-paper question i was given with this idea in mind

half imp
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maybe Eisenstein's criterion?

sage burrow
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f(x) = x^6 + x^5 + x^4 + x^3 + 1 in Z_2

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so you'd be testing pairs of 3 and 3, or 4 and 2

half imp
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yeah

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considering all irreducible deg 2 polys is the start

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(if they were reducible f would have a root)

sage burrow
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and you're supposed to rearrange to like

f(x) = x^4 (x^2 + x + 1) + x^3 + 1

x^3 + 1 = x(x^2 +x + 1) + (x^2 + x + 1)

so f = (x^2 + x + 1)(x^4 + x + 1)

x^4 + x + 1 is irreducible as
(x^2 + x + 1)^2, (the only non-x^2 irreducible quadratic in Z_2 squared) =/= (x^4 + x + 1)

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and -that's- how they wanted me to show 'there is no pair of 4 and 2'

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which i understand despite how baffling the rearranging was at first glance

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its the "the only non-x^2 irreducible quadratic ... " part that irks me

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is there a list of these i'm supposed to be able to apply

half imp
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there is a pair of 4 and 2, isn't there?

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didn't you just give it?

sage burrow
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oh sorry i just showed they were both irreducible lol

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yes

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f = (x^2 + x + 1)(x^4 + x + 1) so that is your pair, rather

half imp
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But yeah there are 4 degree 2 polynomials over Z2

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Only one of them is irreducible: x^2+x+1

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not sure why x^2 is claimed to be irreducible, it's x*x

sage burrow
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that is weird actually

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i just copied what was in my notes 1:1 there

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but it does go against what i understand irreducible to even mean

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Hello, any clues on how to do this?

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Don't forget a >= 0

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Ok thanks I’ll try that

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What would the area of this little valve opening be

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The diameter measures 8mm

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Do u know the formula for area of a circle

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Blue = 8mm and you want the area of the green circle?

wooden lance
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Yea it should be 50mm^2

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?

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But that doesn't seem right because it working with my model

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It isnt*

lime gorge
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50.266 mm^2?

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Yea

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What’s the model

wooden lance
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I'm modeling the drainage of water out of a container

lime gorge
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The speed at which it drains?

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Mass flow rate, volumetric?

wooden lance
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Volumetric flow rate

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Q=Av

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I did the whole model with differential equations and stuff but it just doesn't work

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I tried graphing it and realized if there was just one more zero (as in if the valve was smaller by a factor of 10) it would be perfect

merry dragon
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unit conversion somewhere maybe?

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I've double checked my calculations a zillion times man

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what do you mean doesn't work

wooden lance
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I can send yall screenshoots

boreal remnant
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are you saying that this valve has broken the laws of physics?

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I have post up on the help forum with the screenshots

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I can tag yall if you'd like

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yeah, a link would help please

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i need help but this is vietnamese math

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its vietnamese 8th grade

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not yet

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what have you tried

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i think i will convert it to a constant and then apply the cauchy inequality

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ill be honest, i have no idea

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also doesn't the cauchy inequality only apply to vectors

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cauchy-schwarz should work

dapper condor
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hey my friend hints that the schwarz is the fastest way

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theyre probably right about that think2

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do you know the corollary to CS called titu's lemma

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ugh nope

cobalt crypt
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just use CS then

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in 8TH GRADE!!!

split delta
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yes

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you havent learnt cauchy-schwarz?

covert granite
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8th grade...

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well a hint is

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can you not

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sorry he is my friend

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🙂

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no coppy 🙂

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covert granite
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is this actually 8th gradr

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im in 10th grade

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and have no idea

split delta
covert granite
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10th grade in us

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11 in uk

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:))

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ask ur friend???

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well in the context of the exercise

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1 has another face

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there arent any rules on what language you have to use here so you're free to speak vietnamese if you'd like

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give it a try

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oh ik what this is

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the thing u can prove via induction

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uh

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OH WAIT

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they are all positive

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yes they r

covert granite
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so u can apply Cauchy schwarz

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beo
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split delta
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so complicated...

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😬

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yikes

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thats a lotta work

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;-;

cobalt crypt
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if you apply C-S to what i wrote before

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you get

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I have the answer,anybody needs it?

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welp

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😄

covert granite
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i got 1/3

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wtf

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mmm 1 cheeto

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,w a^3/b + b^3/c + c^3/a where (a,b,c) = (1/3, 1/3, 1/3)

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thats definitely 1

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;-;

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wtf

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5(1/3)^3 is also definitely 1 cheeto

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so how

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....

split delta
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min=1 when a=b=c=1/3 right Khánh?

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under the condition that a + b + c = 1

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if you sum this inequality you just get the minimal value

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nahh

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i need to sleep

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NO

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,ti karin#0305

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its 12 am u know

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,ti beo#2475

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:d

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come back after you've slept think2

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this problem wont solve itself when you're dead tired

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@split delta wake up grandson

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dont ask to ask, just ask

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what nationality are u

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🤐

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:))

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you might not want to say that here, lest you get muted or banned catThink

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you are not the one that needs to apologise think2

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on the whole, thank u so much for helping me a lot, see u tmr!!

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I'm stuck with this. It's not clear to me why the author uses g(a,c) = g(b,d) to then prove that a = b.

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hello, not yet

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I don't understand your doubt

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You have to show that g is not 1-1, so you just consider g as 1-1 and get a contradiction

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My doubt was why is g(a,c) equal to g(b,d). It's supposed to be g(a,d) and g(b,d), right?

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how is Fa right

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shouldnt skater one Fa be on the right

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bec East

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equal and opposite forces right? because she pushes the guy to the right with a force of 70 N, she herself is propelled backwards with the equal and opposite force of 70 N

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at least, i think so

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its not what forces they exert, but what forces are exerted on them that's shown on their individual fbd's

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could someone point out how theta value is wrong?

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Where did that 8.75 come from?

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how do u solve [
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,w Solve[x^x = 27^(x+27), x]

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So wolfram gave the complex solutions first before the real one? Wack

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If x is a positive integer, you know x=27^k for some positive integer k

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help

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ive swear ive done these before and got them ez but i just need to activate a neuron

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Maybe start with 2 equations, 1 going up the stream and 1 going down, then maybe youll spot it

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Usually when this happens to me i start using the longer way until it clicks

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make some variables

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write some equations

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that is how you start almost every word problem

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at the very least, you can identify some quantities that will be relevant

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How do we create a quantitative answer the question above in terms of vectors n (unit length) and w (a vector pointed towards the sun

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This is what I got so far:

The amount of solar radiation captured by the sun appears to be at the highest when the vector n and vector w are co-inciding and pointing in the same direction.

Hence, the amount of solar radiation captured seems to be proportional to the angle between the vector n (unit vector) and the vector w pointing towards the sun. Hence, to quantify the reduction in solar radiation captured, we can use the dot product formula:

n·w = |n||w|cos(theta)

Since n is a unit vector, |n| = 1. Therefore, we can simplify the equation as:

n·w = |w|cos(theta)

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Not sure how to proceed

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Ohhhhh I got something

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Part 2:
The amount of solar radiation captured by the sun appears to be at the highest when the vector n and vector w are co-inciding and pointing in the same direction. Hence, when the angle between the normal vector and the vector pointing towards the sun is zero (i.e., the solar panel is directly facing the sun), the cosine of the angle is 1, which means that the dot product of the two vectors is equal to the product of their magnitudes.

Hence, the amount of solar radiation captured seems to be proportional to the angle between the vector n (unit vector) and the vector w pointing towards the sun. As the angle between the normal vector and the vector pointing towards the sun increases, the cosine of the angle decreases. The reduction in solar radiation captured is given by 1 - cos(theta), where theta is the angle between the normal vector and the vector pointing towards the sun.

Taking the dot product formula,
n.w = |n|*|w|*cos(theta
) Since n is a unit vector, |n| is 1, hence giving
n.w=|w|*cos(theta)
Equating for cos(theta) gives us
Cos(theta)=(n.w)/|w|

Hence, to quantify the reduction in solar radiation captured, we can use the following formula:

Reduction = 1-cos(theta)
Reduction = 1-(n.w)/|w|

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Can anyone verifiy is this correct?

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Do I really sound that robotic

thin vale
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no, just the spacing and formatting seems chatGPT-esque

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Fair enough 😭

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Can you please check it out though, I tried to make it explanatory asf and I wanna make sure its right before submitting

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I am a little busy, I think the long text is what might be discouraging people from committing to reading it all since we are all volunteers. But I bet that someone will help you out in a reasonable amount of time since it isn't too complex. Good luck!

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Can someone please help me on this question here. It is given that f(x) = m + nx where m and n are constants. Given also that f(0) = 1 and f(4) = 21, find the value of m and n.

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do you understand what it means for f(0) to equal 1?

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Yes

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what would it give you

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If im correcti it should be

1 = m + nx

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not quite, remember its f(0) so x=0

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Hmm

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0 = 1?

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how did you come to that?

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Not sure

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Sorry let me try again

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no worries

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Would it be

m + n0 = 1?

pale perch
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thats right, then what can you get from that

sterile lotus
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That m would be equa to 1

pale perch
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correct

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now you know that, you can do a similar process for f(4)=21

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to find n

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So it would be

1 + 4n = 21?

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exactly

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Ohh

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Man thanks

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np

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But can I ask you 1 more question

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i do have to go now however im sure someone will see it if you post it here

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Oh okay no worries

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It is given f(x) = 3x - 5

Find the value of t, given that f(t) = 10.

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Hello, I have this equation in the form of ln(y) = ...

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I need this in the form of y = ...

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So I removed the ln in the second line. Is it correct?

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Just need confirmation

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no

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you did not "remove the ln", you raised e to the power of both sides, except you did it improperly on the right.

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@paper depot what's the proper way?

paper depot
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e^ln(y) = e^(ln(a) + b ln(x))

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simplify this properly

devout urchin
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I know about it, I just don't understand what to do with e^b.ln(x)

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I'm pretty sure the y = e^ln(a) is already correct, no?

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no, it is not

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you cannot rewrite e^ln(y) = e^(ln(a) + b ln(x)) as just y = e^(ln(a))

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I don't know man, I googled about natural log properties and it doesn' have these kind of stuff

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I can't find ln(x + y) = ...

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why would you need to look at the log of a sum here

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which part did I got wrong?

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e^bln(x) right?

paper depot
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you're overthinking this massively or just being blind

devout urchin
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man I give up

paper depot
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what do u expect me to do lol, I'm absolutely clueless here. back in hs they didn't get in depth about these kind of stuff either

paper depot
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for this conversion

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does it have any name?

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this is all I could find

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you cannot forget exponent laws just because there are logs in the picture.

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ahh found it

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Hi, please can someone help me with this?

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This is what I've got so far:
Q11:
Radius: 10cm
Diameter = 20cm
Circumfernece : 3.14 * 20 = 62.8

25% of the circumference of each circle overlaps. And since their are two circles in total 25 + 25 = 50%

Circumference of shaded area: 62.8/2 = 50 50 % of 62.8 = 31.4
C = 3.14 * D
31.4 = 3.14 * D
D = 31.4 / 3.14
R = 5

Area of shaded area: 25 * 3.14 = 15.7

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Ohk, I understand. Tysm

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im struggling with part i

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i know that a is at its max so that mean that theta should be the max on the cos graph

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but im wondering whether or not theta could be 0, pi or 2pi

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icy knoll
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can someone help me with this?

vocal sleetBOT
icy knoll
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like how one would i solve problem?

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ik its product rule but i keep getting a dif answer everytime and its nothing like the actual answer

hushed pewter
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!show

vocal sleetBOT
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Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

icy knoll
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at the first derivative (im using quotient rule) to get the first part and i keep getting 1+3x/3x as 3/3x^2

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and that parts apparently wrong

paper depot
icy knoll
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mb meant solve

paper depot
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uh now it's even more vague

icy knoll
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oh

paper depot
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what are you trying to do, take the derivative?

icy knoll
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yes

marsh spear
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Oh

paper depot
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is the 4. part of the problem or only the problem number

icy knoll
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only problem number

marsh spear
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i think its just the problem number

paper depot
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wanted to make sure

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anyway uh

marsh spear
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give me a minute i think i got this

paper depot
vocal sleetBOT
marsh spear
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Oh

paper depot
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anyway

icy knoll
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yeah thats what i plan to do

marsh spear
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myb myb

icy knoll
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i need help solving it and understanding specifically

marsh spear
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Ok

paper depot
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(1+3x)/(3x) does not differentiate to 3/x^2

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using the quot rule on this is overkill

icy knoll
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oh

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should i go straight into product?

marsh spear
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I would distribute if i were u

paper depot
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you should do some simplification here

icy knoll
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simplification how?

paper depot
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distribute first

icy knoll
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multiply both?

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ok

paper depot
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then break the resulting big fraction into a sum

icy knoll
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gimme a second

marsh spear
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yeah

paper depot
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and show us all your work obviously

marsh spear
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i mean product rule isnt an overkill

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but it will be difficult to like simplify from there

icy knoll
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wait how would i simply these?

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would i multiply 3-x to both top and bottom?

paper depot
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no, you would not.

marsh spear
paper depot
marsh spear
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im sorry

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im using a bad mouse

paper depot
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those x's look closer to n's or u's

icy knoll
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oh so just the top..?

marsh spear
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yeah

paper depot
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of course

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you know how to work with fractions do you not

marsh spear
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also an x is supposed to look smth like that

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wait lemme try again

paper depot
marsh spear
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yeah but it shouldnt be confused for the multiplcation symbol as well

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unless u use a dot which in that case wont matter then

paper depot
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you should use a dot, and when a cross is required, clearly raise it above the baseline.

paper depot
marsh spear
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on paper its much more recognizable ig

paper depot
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ive seen many more piss-poor x's with this shape than i've seen good ones.

marsh spear
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well im using a mouse so its not good

icy knoll
marsh spear
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but on paper its decent

icy knoll
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so like that

marsh spear
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yes

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now u can choose to do a few things ig

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1

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acc

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the only thing

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is

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bring each thing on the numererator over 3x

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yeah

icy knoll
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wait uh

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i need to change 9x to 8x cause i didnt see the -1x

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so it looks like

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(-3x^2 + 8x + 3)/3x

marsh spear
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oh yeah

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ok

icy knoll
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whats the next step?

marsh spear
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since

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theres a single denominator

icy knoll
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uhm..

marsh spear
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wait

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thats wrong

icy knoll
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could you explain why we do that

marsh spear
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wait

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wait

icy knoll
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ok

marsh spear
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give me a second

paper depot
icy knoll
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wait

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wouldnt i just do quotient rule now?

paper depot
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and no

marsh spear
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oh dont do quotient rule

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please

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dont

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thats just

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like

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so much work

paper depot
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the constant 3 is positive on the numerator tho

marsh spear
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every thing works out really well

paper depot
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using the quotient rule now would be masochism

marsh spear
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^^

icy knoll
paper depot
icy knoll
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💀

paper depot
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,w simplify (1+3x)(3-x)/(3x)

marsh spear
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thats a terrible answer key

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unless

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u were supposed to practice that rule

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and only that rule

paper depot
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just to make sure we're on the same page simplification wise
this here is correct despite @marsh spear's self-correction

icy knoll
paper depot
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there are better examples to practice quot rule on

icy knoll
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its just simplification?

marsh spear
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yeah

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because

paper depot
marsh spear
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everything happens to workout lol

icy knoll
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oh ok

marsh spear
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try to avoid doing the quotient rule in this scnerio

paper depot
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taking the derivative at this point is a matter of applying just the power rule.

icy knoll
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ok

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im still kinda confused..

icy knoll
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and then i simply that further

paper depot
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have you or have you not arrived at -x + 1/x + 8/3 with your simplification

icy knoll
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i have

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wait no

marsh spear
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now just take the derivative

icy knoll
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i didnt get -1x

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i got 1x

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without negative

marsh spear
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yeah

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u should come to that

icy knoll
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ok yeah

paper depot
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wiener

marsh spear
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hi

paper depot
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are you sure YOU aren't fucking up

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because i think you are

marsh spear
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potentially

paper depot
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you had it right the first time round then corrected yourself into wrongness

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WA is reliable for algebraic simplification

marsh spear
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(3x+1)(x-3) = 3x^2 - 8x - 3

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where am i wrong

paper depot
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yeah but the second factor is supposed to be 3-x

marsh spear
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Oh

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shit

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Oh ok

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yeah

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the first one is correct

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myb

icy knoll
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wait so we cant change the negatives to positives?

marsh spear
icy knoll
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-3x^2 + 3 + 8x to 3x^2 -3 -8x?

marsh spear
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no no no

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i did it wrong

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i multipled (3x+1) with x-3 not 3-x

icy knoll
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oh

marsh spear
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yeah sorry about that

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so you should get that picture

icy knoll
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wait uh

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wouldnt the - x just be -1

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wait

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nvm

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thats the wrong one

paper depot
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the -x would not be -1

icy knoll
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i meant 1/x

paper depot
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but the -x would differentiate to -1.

icy knoll
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nvm

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i wrote it wrong

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fixed what i did wrong

marsh spear
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right

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derivative of a constant is 0

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derivative of -x is -1

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and the derivative of 1/x is -1/x^2

icy knoll
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ok wait

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lemme try this part

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oh wait

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its just -2/x^2?

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nvm

paper depot
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no

marsh spear
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yeah glad u found the issue there lo

paper depot
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it's -1 - 1/x^2

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$-1 - \frac{1}{x^2} \neq -\frac{2}{x^2}$

twin meteorBOT
icy knoll
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yeah i figured that out 😓

marsh spear
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its alright

paper depot
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if you wish to write this as one fraction for whatever reason you can do $-\frac{x^2+1}{x^2}$ but this is not really necessary

twin meteorBOT
icy knoll
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ok uhm..

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wait how would i write that as a fraction..?

marsh spear
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common denominator

icy knoll
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is it possible to take the derivate of this answer in the same way we just did this problem?

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cause this isnt product rule anymore

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but if i change this to a fraction

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i could possibly do quotient?

paper depot
paper depot
icy knoll
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oh wait so theres always a way around quotient??

marsh spear
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well

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that depends

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if u can simplify like we did in here

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then theres no need

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but in some scnerios

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quotient rule may be the only rule that can be applied

icy knoll
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ok

icy knoll
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but got the wrong answer again

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i dont rly get where im going wrong

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lemme send my work

marsh spear
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r u tryna find the 2nd derivative

icy knoll
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oh wait

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nvm i got it

marsh spear
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oh ok gud

icy knoll
marsh spear
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are you in america?

icy knoll
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yeah

marsh spear
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oh

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so im assuming ur in calc rn right

icy knoll
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pretty much

marsh spear
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should u have done like algebra 2 n stuff

icy knoll
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yeah we did that previously

marsh spear
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oh ok

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yeah

icy knoll
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im just not the brightest with understanding stuff till i actually do it

marsh spear
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the problem with calclus is

icy knoll
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and our prof only rly teaches theories

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without practice problems

marsh spear
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if you have a weak base in algebra then calculus will be a struggle

icy knoll
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probably why im kinda struggling atm

marsh spear
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yeah

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dw tho

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with more practice u will naturally start to get the hang of it

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but if u have the choice to like just review some algebra or go over some things yk then u should

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just so u can suceed with calc

icy knoll
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do you mind if you can help me understand another problem?

marsh spear
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well its 1 am for me but i can try ig

icy knoll
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o its 1 am here too

marsh spear
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yeah

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alr send the problem rq

icy knoll
marsh spear
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oo

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that

icy knoll
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chain rule

marsh spear
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is just chain rule

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yeah

icy knoll
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yeah

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but i still keep messing up

marsh spear
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derivative of ln is what

icy knoll
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1/x

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?*

marsh spear
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right

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derivative of cotx

icy knoll
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uhmm

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is it -secx?

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wait no

marsh spear
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-csc^2x

icy knoll
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-secxtan?

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oh.

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ok wait

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lemme write that down

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ok

marsh spear
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that

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yeah

icy knoll
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then what do i do about 10^x^5/3?

marsh spear
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wait thats another exponent