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sweet edge
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is there some kind of fundamental thing I'm missing that can simplify this quite a bit?

nocturne minnow
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Probably, something like the force is all the same since they all have the same unit vector

sweet edge
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The more I'm working with vectors, the more I'm realizing that I kinda failed learning about them in-depth

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I see

nocturne minnow
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But do you now understand how to do the rest?

sweet edge
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Kinda, it's just going to be extremely long

nocturne minnow
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Just a bit

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$T1 \frac{5}{\sqrt{75}}\hat{i} + T2 \frac{5}{\sqrt{75}}\hat{i} - T3 \frac{5}{\sqrt{75}}\hat{i} - T4 \frac{5}{\sqrt{75}}\hat{i} = 0$

warm shaleBOT
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dldh06

nocturne minnow
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That's the x direction

sweet edge
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yes

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I have this written down so far

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I forgot to write the k hat

nocturne minnow
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You're going to have 3 equations, with 4 unknowns

sweet edge
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or the RHS

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yes

nocturne minnow
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And you just solve for each tension

sweet edge
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can i make the assumption that the tensions are equivalent since they're all on the corners of a square?

nocturne minnow
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Do you have the key to check?

sweet edge
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Upon submission, it'll tell me if I'm wrong or right

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I have 5 submissions

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ouch

warm shaleBOT
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Jukelyn

sweet edge
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a message from my instructor

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Which means that I perhaps messed up somewhere else above

nocturne minnow
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Looks like it, trying to see where

nocturne minnow
warm shaleBOT
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Jukelyn

nocturne minnow
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If the mag is all the same, what if it was just $\frac{150 \cdot 9.81}{4}$?

warm shaleBOT
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dldh06

sweet edge
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Uh

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Says it's wrong

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That statement also doesn't make sense to me tbh

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From my professor:

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Ig this is just a geometric representation of what we were doing?

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but idk

nocturne minnow
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So obviously, it's going to involve 150(9.81), dividing by 4, and 5/sqrt(75), but I don't recall the proper way

sweet edge
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hmm

nocturne minnow
sweet edge
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mmm, shit

nocturne minnow
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Sorry, I can't be more help

sweet edge
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It's alright

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<@&286206848099549185> any input on this stuff ^^^

timid silo
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One sec

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Brb

sweet edge
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Okii

sweet edge
timid silo
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Yeh

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I was helping some people

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Before i asked

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Just was finishing helping them

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So what's the question exactly

sweet edge
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To find the values for Tension in this scenario:

timid silo
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Oh this is ok

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One sec

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U know where this orange plane will intersect the z axis

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@sweet edge

sweet edge
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0,0,0

timid silo
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Nope

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(0,0,5)

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Z is not zero

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Remove all the 4 T1 ,T2 ... T4

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In its place put a single T0

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What will be the value of T0

sweet edge
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yes, true

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uh

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just 5

timid silo
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U sure ?

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T0 will be equal to the weight hanging from the bottom

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So it wil be 1500 N

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I assume g to be 10 here

sweet edge
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alright

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that makes sense

timid silo
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Then u just need to show that the tensions are all equal in magnitude

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That shouldn't be difficult

sweet edge
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we're given that

timid silo
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Oh lol

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Then u get the answer as 15x25

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Which is ?

sweet edge
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375

timid silo
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Yes

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Each of those tensions is 375 newton

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U need to show using slope of the two diagonals of the rectangle

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That they intersect at (0,0,5)

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U get it now ?

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Not slope I mean equation of lines

sweet edge
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nope

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uh

timid silo
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Do u know formula for equation of lines

sweet edge
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ax+by+c=0

timid silo
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In 3D

sweet edge
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nope

timid silo
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Oomph

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I forgot that formula too lmfao

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Lemme try

sweet edge
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xd

timid silo
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Man i seriously forgot it

sweet edge
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y=mx+b?

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uh

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idk

timid silo
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Not that's for 2D

sweet edge
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Yeah, no clue

timid silo
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But it will intersect at (0,0,5)

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We can see that

sweet edge
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yes

timid silo
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Perhaps someone who knows that formula can help

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No wait

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I did it wrong

sweet edge
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rip

timid silo
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Just a slight modification

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Rest is good

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Upto T0

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We need to use sin(theta)

sweet edge
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okay..

timid silo
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Ok finally

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This should be it

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And it uses cos(theta) not sin(theta) my bad

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Finally

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This is it

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@sweet edge Has your question been resolved?

timid silo
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@sweet edge hello u there

sweet edge
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sorry

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yeah

timid silo
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Did u get it

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This one is correct

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Hello ?

sweet edge
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it's not right

timid silo
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Why

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What’s the final answer

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If u know it

sweet edge
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I dont

timid silo
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Bruh

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Then why is this wrong

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All the cos components of this T1 , T2 will sum upto T0

sweet edge
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Idk what to tell you

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It simply is not the right answer

timid silo
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How do u know

sweet edge
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bc it says it

timid silo
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Oh

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timid silo
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I feel like I’m making some stupid mistake

nocturne minnow
timid silo
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What am I supposed to do

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.reopen

obtuse pebbleBOT
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timid silo
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Idk how to solve this

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I saw that sin(theta) components cancel out

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When theta is taken with z axis from all t1,t2,..t4

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And the cos components add up

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To t0

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@sweet edge wait

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What does it say in the question to take g

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9.8 or 10

nocturne minnow
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Probably 9.81

timid silo
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Cause I took 10

nocturne minnow
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Or 9.8

timid silo
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Lmao

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So that’s where it is

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hopefully

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I gtg for breakfast

nocturne minnow
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Physics people don't round g

timid silo
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Can u help out from here

sweet edge
nocturne minnow
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I tried lol

timid silo
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Lol

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Forgot these little details

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Do 150 into 9.8

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Divide by 4

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And multiply by sqrt(3)

nocturne minnow
timid silo
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This

nocturne minnow
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That?

timid silo
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Yeh

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Yes

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Is that right @sweet edge

nocturne minnow
sweet edge
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I’m not sure, I only have one more submission

nocturne minnow
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If there is tolerance, that is close enough

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So shouldn't make a difference, I think

sweet edge
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I’ll try it

timid silo
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🤞

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Pls pls

sweet edge
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Wait no

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I’m not trying that

timid silo
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Why

sweet edge
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It’s the same answer I had earlier and it was wrong

timid silo
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When

nocturne minnow
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Previous answer was 636

sweet edge
nocturne minnow
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And 637 is close enough to 636, site tolerance, would have marked it right

sweet edge
timid silo
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Bruh

nocturne minnow
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I did 9.81

sweet edge
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oh

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true

timid silo
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I give up

sweet edge
nocturne minnow
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,w (150*9.8sqrt(3))/4

sweet edge
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also g=9.8 here

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that's

sweet edge
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dang

timid silo
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Bruhhh

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I give up

sweet edge
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same

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idk

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sadge

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i guess

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I fucking hate physics in math

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oh my fucki-

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I HATE THIS SHIT

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I FUCKING HAD THE RIGHT ANSWER

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MOTHERFU-

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oh my god I'm so pissed off rn

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I hate this stupid ass program

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so CRINGE

tardy epoch
sweet edge
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I am the pain

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I am pain

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rn

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pain

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as fuck

nocturne minnow
# sweet edge

So that answer we had hours ago was correct? That's unfortunate

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And it does say exact magnitude, that's a big oof

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And it does say exact magnitude, that's a big oof

nocturne minnow
# sweet edge

FYI, you wrote the same exact thing epsilon had here

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Because $\frac{\sqrt{75}}{5} = \sqrt{3}$

warm shaleBOT
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dldh06

sweet edge
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yeah

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I realized

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pure pain

nocturne minnow
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At least now you know how to do it with unit vectors, because that was the unit vector

timid silo
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I want to talk to the creator of this program

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I’m pissed rn

nocturne minnow
timid silo
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Ik

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but I just wanna talk to him

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halcyon creek
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So I've been working through with a trig identity the problem of "Find all values of x in between [0,2pi] for the inequality of $$sqrt{2}(sin(2x)) + 1 > 0 $$

warm shaleBOT
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Evitaitini

halcyon creek
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And I've gotten it down to $$(2sin(x))*(cos(x)) > -(1/sqrt{2})$$
But I don't know how to go further with the 2sin bit since it won't simplify to something neat for the parameters

warm shaleBOT
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Evitaitini

tardy epoch
timid silo
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Leave it as sin(2x)

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U get sin(2x) > -1/sqrt(2)

tardy epoch
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Oh shit they already had the double angle.

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Yea listen to epsilon

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halcyon creek
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Ooh

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thank you

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lavish fulcrum
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i am confused on the highlighted part of the question

faint flower
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is " if gof= g o (f bar) then f = (f bar)" true if g is not injective?

lavish fulcrum
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i cant seem to figure that out

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<@&286206848099549185>

timid silo
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What does the bar denote

lavish fulcrum
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f bar is just another function right ?

long peak
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If you don't have g injective then you can have g(x)=g(y) for x!=y

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so you could have $g(f(x)) = g(\overline{f}(x))$ for $f(x) \neq \overline{f}(x)$

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lavish fulcrum
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i havent been able to think of one tho

timid silo
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A counter example will work, right

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g=x^2
f=x
f bar=|x|

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There

lavish fulcrum
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oh ok my b thanks that works

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errant crest
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I have 2/3 = 1/a + 1/3a + 1/(a-1) I’ve gotten that down to 7a^2-4a / (3a^3 - 3a^2) = 2/3 but idk if I’m on the right track

faint flower
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just cross multiply

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one a will cancel out

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(check if a=0 satisfies the original question before canceling out)

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then just solve the quadratic

errant crest
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No

faint flower
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you made things a little harder than they needed to be in taking the LCM, but seems to be right otherwise

errant crest
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A needs to be a positive integer

faint flower
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alright then just cancel the a out

errant crest
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Didn’t I cross multiply though?

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timid silo
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HELP. I'm stuck at item #2. Idk how to start it

vivid lagoon
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i am not full sure on how i would do it either, but if you are allowed I would suggest graphing this and studying it through there

brittle swan
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slope of line = tan θ

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where θ is angle is inclination/depression (θ < 90°)

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use this a few times

timid silo
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Is there a clearer explanation? I don't get it

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brittle swan
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do you know the relation between slope and angle of inclination/depression of line?

timid silo
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m = tan Theta???

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$$tan theta=- 6/7$$

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timid silo
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Idkkk

faint flower
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Angle between two lines helps to know the relationship between the two lines. It is the measure of the inclination between the two lines. Let us check the formula, and examples to find the angle between two lines in a coordinate plane and three-dimensional space.

timid silo
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This is what I've got:
$$m2=(168+85√3)/59$$

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faint flower
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I don't have a pen and paper with me rn to solve, but that looks way too complicated for this

timid silo
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I think so too

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Hi, guys, i am looking at this proof, in my mind, non-singular conic C means that for any point on C, there is no point satisfy dC/dx=dC/dy=dC/dz = 0, how can it be related to non-degenerate bilinear form?

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earnest shell
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Can someone help explain why right answer here is d?

spiral maple
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apriori you dont know if BA also gives 3I

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spiral maple
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yes

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Thank you catthumbsup

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sonic parrot
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Does this look right

timid silo
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yes

sonic parrot
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Thanks

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well done

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sure

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shadow trellis
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idk how to do this

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shadow trellis
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wait is it that 1/x approaches 0 and cos x will at max be 1? so 0?

balmy mortar
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Have you an intuitive idea

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of what the graph will look like

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shadow trellis
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ooh nice, thanks

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@shadow trellis

shadow trellis
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right, ty

timid silo
balmy mortar
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technically, your idea is squeeze thm

shadow trellis
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haven’t studied that :((

balmy mortar
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you are saying the function is bounded by +-1/x

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like the graph shows

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thats all there is to it

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summer crane
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I am absolutely bamboozled

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timid silo
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Can you explain me?

balmy mortar
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To me, it seems incomplete

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I see no restrictions on the side lengths

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Can be as long as you like???

timid silo
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Side length till mars. 😋

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So if this bamboozles you then heck

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It's diffirential calculus

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Do I have to move the identity matrix as well in that step

nocturne minnow
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Are you finding the inverse?

timid silo
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Or is that fine to swap rows in the beginning before calculations

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Yes

nocturne minnow
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Because yes, you need to do the same steps

balmy mortar
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every row operation happens to the entire row. Not just the left

nocturne minnow
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You're treating it like one big matrix

timid silo
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Yeah but can I swap rows first

nocturne minnow
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Yes

timid silo
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Then add the identity matfix

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So that's allowed?

nocturne minnow
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Are you saying swap, before you write down the identity matrix?

timid silo
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Yes

nocturne minnow
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No

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You can't do that

timid silo
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Okay I was just making sure 😅

nocturne minnow
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Whatever operations you do with the original matrix, has to reflect on the identity matrix

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That's why you treat it as a whole

balmy mortar
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You can just reduce the left to the identity matrix... and then add identity matrix at end...?

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if you think you're allowed to do that

nocturne minnow
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But finding the inverse though, that's pointless

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TY very much

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timid silo
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Am I doing this right?

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silk galleon
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did you do $(X^T X)^{-1}Xy$?

warm shaleBOT
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xdk1235

timid silo
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That's the proper xTx

silk galleon
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yeah thats the right design matrix

timid silo
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What's the inverse?

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46,674

silk galleon
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you need to find the inverse of $X^T X$ not of $X$

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xdk1235

timid silo
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Xtx = 46, 674

silk galleon
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$X^T X$ is a $2 \times 2$ matrix

timid silo
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Okay I'm messing up there then

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Ty

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timid silo
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i need help with the isomorphism part

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sorry i posted earlier but something came up

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idk how to find the isomorhpic ones

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i cant even visualise what one homomorhpism would be

balmy mortar
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Can't rlly help with your homework

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Perhaps try the question for order 5

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or something

scenic sundial
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@balmy mortar you can maybe give a hint

balmy mortar
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I think I did

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But I don't mind giving some more if that doesn't help much

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But should try --- that's what uni problems are more about

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Another hint: think about what certain things must map to

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timid silo
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idk man

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this isnt an exam

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solid gazelle
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2n-9 and 8n+1 are square numbers
n is a natural number
Find n

tardy epoch
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raven spire
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How did you attempt to solve it?

tardy epoch
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oh they don't have to be consecutive squares. that's annoying

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||```In [10]: for n in range(5, 100):
...: if (2 * n - 9) ** 0.5 % 1 == 0 and (8 * n + 1) ** 0.5 % 1 == 0:
...: print(n, 2 * n - 9, 8 * n + 1)
45 81 361

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tardy epoch
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if this is for a number theory class, this answer isn't gonna cut it

solid gazelle
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Yea, my teacher won't accept a piece of code

tardy epoch
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so is this for number theory?

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thought it was for high school

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there's probably something with modular arithmetic

solid gazelle
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It's not specified that it is for number theory

timid silo
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This indeed number theory

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Both are square numbers @solid gazelle

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??

solid gazelle
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Yes

timid silo
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Are they equal by any chance

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Jk jk

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Here's how to do it

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Afaik

timid silo
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Ok tell if u want to write a number as a multiple of 2 or a multiple of 2 plus something , what will it be

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The easiest way to write it

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@solid gazelle u there ?

solid gazelle
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Multiple of 2 plus something

timid silo
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Fine ill cut to short

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Do you know modular arithmetic

solid gazelle
timid silo
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Lol

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Do u know it

solid gazelle
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Yes

timid silo
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Ok

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So u know every number is either 1(mod 2)

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Or 0(mod 2)

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So let a = 1(mod 2) or a=0 (mod 2)

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I don't have congruence symbol only keyboard

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Hence using =

raven spire
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Oof

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@solid gazelle ?

timid silo
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What happen

solid gazelle
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Huh?

raven spire
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Write 2n - 9 = A^2 , 8n + 1 = B^2

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B^2 - 4A^2 = 37

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can you follow from there?

timid silo
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I bet he can

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Thanks ansh

solid gazelle
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Wait, how did you get b^2-4a^2=37

timid silo
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He subtracted them

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After multiplying a^2 eqn with 4

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On both sides to eliminate n

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My bad it was subtraction

solid gazelle
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OOOH

timid silo
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Then u get this

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U know how to solve for a and b from here ?

solid gazelle
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I'll try to

timid silo
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Basically factorise LHS

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U get (b-2a)(b+2a)= 1 x 37

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37 is prime so has only 2 factors

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Now can u see which one is which

raven spire
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simply sum them up, get 2b = 38 :o
subtract : 4a = 36

timid silo
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Yup

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hmm?

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What's wrong @solid gazelle ?

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raven spire
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*understood this?

solid gazelle
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Yes

raven spire
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Then factorise L.h.s. and r.h.s.

solid gazelle
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I also understand (b-2a)(b+2a)=37

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But how did you get 2b=38

raven spire
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(B+2A)(B-2A) = 1 x 37

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Do you understand that 37 is a prime and the only way to write it as a factor is 1 x 37?

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if yes, then either of the factors (B+2A) or (B-2A) from L.H.S. should be 1 and the other should be 37

solid gazelle
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OOH, understood

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I completely forgor 💀 about prime number

raven spire
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Yeah, now since (B+2A) > (B-2A), (B+2A) = 37 and the other one is 1

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solve for A, B

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then plug in for n

solid gazelle
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So a=9,5 and b=20?

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Wait

raven spire
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a = 9, b = 19

solid gazelle
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Is there something wrong?

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Wait

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I'm stupid

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YYEEES

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N = 45

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FINALLY

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Thank you so much

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@timid silo @raven spire thank you

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:)

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Hi, what is a surjective function?

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I mean I've read the definition but still don't really understand it

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well , given a certain domain and an range

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the function is surjective if for ever element in its range there is such x from its domain that f(x)=y

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take for example y=x^2 so that f : R -> R

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the function isn't surjective, because there is not a real number x so that if you square it you get a negative number right?

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so for example if you take -1 , an element of our range, (R) you can't find real number x such that x^2=-1

clever nacelle
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ok so the domain must go to all the values of the co-domain?

hazy marlin
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on the other hand, if you redefine the function so taht it maps f:R->[0,+infinity) , it is surjective now

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maybe it will be more intuitive to think about it the other way around
each value in the co domain has a value in its domain that is mapped to it.

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ok

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made a small correction on the codomain definition

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so the domain can have values not mapping to anything as long as some of the values map to all of the values of the co-domain

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yes

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that is correct

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however do notice that it can only be surjective if the group of the co domain is smaller in its cardinality then the domain

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like, if you have 4 values in your domain and 4 values in your co do main,
then each value in your domain HAS to be mapped to a corresponding value in the co domain for it to be surjective

clever nacelle
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OK I understand, but why do I not understand the first example you gave

hazy marlin
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if the co domain is smaller, say 3, then you can map 3 valued from the domain to the 3 values of the codomain , thus achieving surjectivity

clever nacelle
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the r -> r part

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set R to set R

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I mean its the function notation

hazy marlin
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it just means that function f maps values from domain R to co domain R

clever nacelle
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okay

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and R is not a set

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right

hazy marlin
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it is a set

clever nacelle
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because then it would map set R to set R

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it's the set of all Real numbers

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yea it would

clever nacelle
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oh ok

hazy marlin
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you can map a set to itself after all

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you can also map a function this way :

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f: N -> R

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aka a sequence

clever nacelle
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huh

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I'm lost

hazy marlin
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N->R means mapping natural numbers to real numbers

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a seuqnece a1,a2,a3...an is a function that takes a natural number, being the index and maps it to some real number

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a1=3.14 is essentially the mapping 1->pi

clever nacelle
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ok

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and bijective is when each value in the domain maps to a unique value in the co-domain

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?

hazy marlin
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a bijective function is one that is both Injective and surjective

clever nacelle
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ok

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so both domain and co domain have the same cardinality?

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since for it to be injective, it has to for each input have a unique output

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and if the co-domain was larger, it would not be surjective

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?

hazy marlin
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the codomain must be of equal size or smaller then the domain

clever nacelle
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how

hazy marlin
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you can map a domain of 4 values to a co domain of 3 values so that the mapping is bijective

clever nacelle
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won't that mean that its not surjective anymore

hazy marlin
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say your domain is 1 2 3 4 and co domain is 1 2 3

clever nacelle
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oh wait no

hazy marlin
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I can map 1 -> 1
2->2
3->3

clever nacelle
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ok so 1 element maps to 2 things

hazy marlin
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the function I defined is both injective and surjective, and thus bijective

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having an element map to 2 things defied the definition of a function

clever nacelle
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so not all values of the domain have to be used?

hazy marlin
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I mean

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take for example 1/x

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the value 0 in the domain is never used

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such a point would be an incontinuity point

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for example

hollow plank
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Wait, no; the domain of a function is exactly where it is defined

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A bijection between sets indeed imposes that the sets are of same cardinality

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Partial functions exist and are useful, but when talking about injection, surjection or bijection, this is for non-partial functions.

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The domain of 1/x is not R, it R* (R without 0)

clever nacelle
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ok right, so let me get this from the start, injective means that all the values in the domain map to a UNIQUE element in the co-domain

hollow plank
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yes

clever nacelle
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and surjective means that all the values of the co-domain have a mapping

hazy marlin
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my mistake matas

hazy marlin
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a bijective function imposes equal cardinalities of both sets

clever nacelle
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its fine, this is helping 🙂

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ok

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let me draw 2 functions

hollow plank
clever nacelle
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this is bijective right

hazy marlin
clever nacelle
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and this is not injective as 0 and 2 map to 1 and also not surjective as nothing maps to 2

clever nacelle
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thus also not bijective

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ok, thank you very much guys :))

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no problem 🙂

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you're welcome ! and thanks @hollow plank

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if you're willing you can help me out on help-15 channel

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Someone ping 1mbibe please? Dude just blocked me and i have no clue why

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Xd

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?????

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Shit wrong channel

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i need help with d

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pseudo mural
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i got 8/7(2^n) but the pattern doesn't hold

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Isn't it just dividing by 2?

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@pseudo mural

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11,18,37…

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flat anvil
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so first you wanna set that to zero

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and notice that you can divide everything by 2 to make your life easier

timid silo
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Yup

flat anvil
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then you must use the rational roots theorem and synthetic diviosn

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a lot

timid silo
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He can’t do long division ?

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@flat anvil

flat anvil
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he can

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it just takes longer

alpine raven
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long division by x-10

balmy mortar
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what.

flat anvil
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(more writing)

timid silo
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Then that’s easier

balmy mortar
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long division is just 1 line of working

flat anvil
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what

balmy mortar
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and then quadratic

timid silo
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Long division by x-10 is easier

alpine raven
balmy mortar
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what what.

flat anvil
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wait

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long division is more writing

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i thought

balmy mortar
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that depends on HOW you do it.

flat anvil
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how are you doing it?

balmy mortar
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term by term.

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I can show.

flat anvil
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yeah so in that case

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synthetic is just as fast

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(if not fasteR)

balmy mortar
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2x^3 - 24x^2 + 44x - 40 = (x - 10)(???)

flat anvil
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synthetic divison is a shortcut for long division

balmy mortar
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2x^3 - 24x^2 + 44x - 40 = (x - 10)(2x^2 ???)

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wait is what im doing synthetic?

open sentinel
flat anvil
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nah its not

flat anvil
balmy mortar
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I see I have a -20x^2 term

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so to balance, I need to make +4x^2

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2x^3 - 24x^2 + 44x - 40 = (x - 10)(2x^2 + 4x + ???)

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I now have a -40x term

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to balance i make +84x

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which means ive made a frigging mistake

timid silo
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That’s synthetic division

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What ure doing

flat anvil
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rlly?

open sentinel
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this is a synthetic division problem

balmy mortar
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uh heck did i do wrong

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2x^3 - 24x^2 + 44x - 40 = (x - 10)(2x^2 - 4x + ???)

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kk

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2x^3 - 24x^2 + 44x - 40 = (x - 10)(2x^2 - 4x + 10)

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😅

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@flat anvil what is synthetic to u

timid silo
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Bruh

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This is synthetic division

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What you are doing

alpine raven
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just do it like this and you are done

open sentinel
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i think its basically dividing but the division sign is flipped over and you move everything a place down

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yea

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basically

balmy mortar
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yh well mine is 1 line of work

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as long as u dont f up

flat anvil
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man i dont even know what synthetic division is anymore

open sentinel
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should i go to the next problem

flat anvil
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yes

open sentinel
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this one just stumps me

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like i have no idea what to do

royal basin
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if the question asked for the value of g(5), would you be able to do it?

open sentinel
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probably not

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this is all new to me

royal basin
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so you don't know how to read the graph of a function?

open sentinel
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i skipped a year of math

flat anvil
royal basin
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consider that y = g(x) isn't just an arcane equation we write as part of some sort of ritual

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you should look at the point on the graph of g whose x-coordinate is 5

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that point's y coordinate will be g(5)

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do you at least understand the concept of coordinates in general?

open sentinel
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no

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is anyone still here?

flat anvil
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you uh

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dont understand coordinates?

forest sinew
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you may wanna just like

flat anvil
forest sinew
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im sure we can find a short video

flat anvil
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do some khan acadmey pre algebra

forest sinew
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3-8 minutes

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probably on the lower end of that

open sentinel
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im just gonna skip it ig

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trying to go to bed as quickly as possible

royal basin
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well sooner or later you will have to learn this again

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your lack of knowledge can and will bite you in the ass later, multiple times

forest sinew
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you could just watch a 5 minute video then go to bed and let it simmer

open sentinel
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everyone in my class is like 3 years older than me. worst comes to worst, i fail the class and have to take it again

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im smart

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kinda

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not really

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do u know how good triple advanced math looks on your college aps?

forest sinew
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it will not matter since graphs are one of the few things that never go away

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like algebra

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in general

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not even worth arguing since youll motivate yourself eventually KEK

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good luck

open sentinel
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u r right, and i will invest time later, but right now, i still have 20 questions to answer that i probably dont know how to do

forest sinew
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idk what to tell you

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the problem is as easy as understanding coordinates

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you watch a a short video

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you understand

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theres nothing to really debate about there

open sentinel
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i know

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pls help guys

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marsh shadow
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yaa

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asa sas sss rhs

junior inlet
marsh shadow
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of every part?

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*i mean diagrams

twilit loom
marsh shadow
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so wht do i do

twilit loom
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what is the sum of internal angles for a triangle?

marsh shadow
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like the sum shud be 180*

boreal vale
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x^(2)+5x=36

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in CAS

twilit loom
boreal vale
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oh shit sorry

twilit loom
marsh shadow
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ok

twilit loom
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which options does that rule out

marsh shadow
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bro in 2 options the angles sum to be more thn 180

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(also: the sum of 2 sides' length of a triangle must be less *more, sorry than the other side's length)

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but how do i do other 2?

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Please someone solve this

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Like the formulas?

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Would this do?

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Did someone get it?

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How do I do these questions I’m new to it.

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Okay.

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Your about me is a die?

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A yeah, just random.

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Cool, I'll steal it.

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Ok lol

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XD

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A scale model is built from a sailing ship with the scale of 1 : 200. What is the area of the ship's sails when the true area is 2800m^2?

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how to get x

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sage geode
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Have you tried anything so far?

grand obsidian
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nope cuz im not even sure if that line is diameter

sage geode
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Alright so first you need to notice that the angle x is the same as sum of angles SQT and TQV, right?

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Let's start with solving for the angle SQT

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Since the triangle that this angle is in is a right triangle, so 50 + angleSQT = 90 obviously

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Therefore the angle SQT is 40

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You can now solve for the other angle similarly

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And just add them up

grand obsidian
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ahhh now i got it

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thankyou very much

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have a good day !!

sage geode
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You too

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@grand obsidian

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actually

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Lmk if you wanna know sth nice about this problem

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there's actually a simpler equation that goes 70° + x + 50° = 180°

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the more i know about this question the better it is

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can you explain why it must = 180?

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Do you know about the alternate segment theorem?

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not really

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Okay

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so

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Alternate segment theorem states that... if DE is tangent to the circle at point C

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then angle DCA = angle ABC and angle ECB = angle BAC

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aighttt now i understand it even even better

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Can you see that? or wanna try to prove it?

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Oh

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Yep

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So in your question

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i understand it perfectly

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angle PQS = angle STQ and angle RQV = angle VUQ

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oh my, my mind is blown away right now

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it is that easy

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gotta remember this concept

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so hopefully i got this right, the answer is 60

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Yes

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aight thankyou

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you too sir have a good day

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50 + x + 70 = 180, cause straight line angle... x = 60°

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yep

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what ive done is put it into a calculator

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and spammed until i got the answer to only 5 repletely

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do i have to prove by induction?

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prove monotone and bounded

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now you have a theorem that says limit exists

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induction is 1 way

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ok ok, ill try

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im sure ill get lost but ill try 😂

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can someone explain or link me something that explains vertex and standard form for parabolas?

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So the standard form for a parabola is usually y = ax^2 + bx + c, where a,b and c are simply called coefficients

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And the vertex form is y = a(x - h)^2 + k

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What makes the vertex form useful is that

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You can clearly see that the minimum/maximum of y is achieved at x = h

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I only know (x-h)^2=4p(y-k) and (y-k)^2=4p(x-h) what form is that?

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And that the minimum/maximum value of y is k

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For a parabola, whose vertex is at origin (point V is vertex), it's equation is y² = 4ax. F is the focus of the parabola. Coordinates of F are (a, 0).

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You can see that by isolating the y

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And the 2nd form is the same thing but with x and y axis switched

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In both cases the vertex is at (h, k)

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doesn’t one mean vertical and one mean horizontal (pointing up or down and right and left)

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Yes

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what forms can I switch between

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The (x - h)^2 = 4p(y - k) is the vertical parabola

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And the (y - k)^2 = 4p(x - h) is the horizontal one

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so if the x is on the 4p side it’s along the x axis and if the y is on the 4p side it’s along the y axis

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If I were to memorise which one is which, I'd take a look at which of the x or y is being squared

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If x is being squared, then it's a vertical parabola

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If y is being squared, then it's a horizontal parabola

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I see

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so what’s that form called

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oh is that standard form only when the vertex is at origin?

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I guess it can still be called the vertex form

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You can write any vertical/horizontal parabola in either of the forms

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It's just that standard form has coefficients of x and x^2

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is there another type of vertex form?

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Not sure

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ok so what about switching from vertex to standard or whatever

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when do I have to do that

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Idk I don't think it's always necessary

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Unless the question itself is asking you to do that lol

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I see

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If i’m not mistaken the questions we usually get is find the directrix focus etc

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do I just need the vertex= whatever letters correspond to the number in the equation thing

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are you guys active on VC

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if so I’ll come on later

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do you know if there’ll be anyone active there in a few hours

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idk

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alright i’ll be closing this and come check then thanks for the help man means a lot

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My solution:-

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I just need a hint on how to approach the problem

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