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what part in the second line was not clear?
do you know the basic expansion of a binomial expression?
no no i jus got it thanks
cool
thank you for ur time
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Hello i need help on question 1 B and 1 C
do you know the general equation of a circle?
wait sorry I thought you wanted hep with A part, could you send a better photo, in this the B and C part aren't visible
firstly, yes it is an equation of circle
then
do you know the homogoenous 2nd degree eqn ?
nope
the special thing about a tangent is that the perpendicular distance from the centre of the circle is equal to the radius of the circle
do you know how to find the perpendicular distance from a point to a line?
no
well no problem, there is another thing we can do
since the line cuts the circle only at one point
I meant touches
then there is only one value of x and y which satisfy both right
yes
so if we subsitute y = k in the equation of the circle we will get a quadratic in x
and since there must be only one point common between circle and line that must mean the quadratic will only have one root
if we do that it will be (X-a)^2+(K-b)^2=r^2
You can put it in the equation given to you
oh okay
and whats the condition for the quadratic to have one root?
b^2-4ac =0 or something
you made the quadratic?
what quadratic
.
yw
also i just realized due to the conditions of this question there was a much easier way to do this
rather than doing all this quadratic stuff
oh how?
since the line is of form y= k
it will be parallel to the x axis
that means the distance between it and centre of circle will be = |k-b|
where b is the y coord of centre of circle
and if you equate the above to the radius of the circle
you will directly get k
as perp. distance from centre to tangent is radius of the circle
what do you mean by this?
I meant |k-b| = r
so that means that it will be |k-2| = 25
and you just solve that?
the radius is 25?
yes i worked it out
then sure
using the equation
ok
what about C if possible..?
that would required some geometry
okay
not really.
what about now?
yes
so perpendicular from centre to a secant does what to the secant?
well thats the definition of a perpendicular
sorry im kind of in yr11 and doing y12 work..
major thing it does is that it bisects the secant in half
its ok
oh ok
I'd suggest asking your teacher or perhaps use some videos online to learn about the circles and their geometry a lil bit
I think that would solve most of your problems
okay
its fine thank you though for B
yw, you can use this fact and pythogorous theoram and then a similar thing I did before with the tanget to solve C part
you can have at it on your own
oh yes
oh one more question
how would you work out the radius of a circle with 2 coordinates?
2 coordinates of what?
you mean two points on a circle?
yes
you have nothing else?
oh its the diamter
oh wait
oh didnt see that
wait so you work out the length of the line and divide by 2?
for the radius yes
whats the equation for length again?
root((x2-x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2)
for any two arbitary points with no speciality like the diamter you can have infinite number of circles passing through them, you need atleast 3 pts to determine the circle
yw
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Did you try checking small cases of n
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how should I approach 125?
how would i get y=sin^2x in terms of x
No need
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i should determine wheter this set of matrices is linearly dependent
I know that the third matrix is sum of 1first one + 2second one
so the set is lin dependet
ok, what can you conclude from that?
^ correct
but how do i determine it generally
is there some algorithm? or i just have to see it like in this example
probably the most straightforward way generally would be to convert the matrices to row vectors or column vectors, stack them into a matrix, and then do row reduction
like i would put those three columns from first matrix under each other and ill get first column and then the same for remaining 2? so ill get 9 by 3 matrix?
yes correct
or equivalently you could take the three rows of the first matrix and combine them into one long 1x9 row
do the same with the other two
then stack the three rows to get a 3x9 matrix
either way will work
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i have no idea how to attempt this probklem
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Why isn’t it possible to solve it
Maybe because it is diverging or the root gets negative
probable because $x^3 >> x^2$ therefor the root gets negative
Tobi
The root can get negative, can’t it?
Let x=2 then we have $x^2- x^3 = 4-8 = -4$
Tobi
it does converge
But you can take a 3 root of a square number
Why isn’t it possible to solve it
It is, your calculator just isn't good enough
How do you solve it then?
do you know l'hopital?
Personally I ask WolframAlpha
Yeah
$\sqrt[3]{x^{2}-x^{3}}+x\to x\left(\sqrt[3]{\frac{1}{x}-1}+1\right)\to\frac{\left(\sqrt[3]{\frac{1}{x}-1}+1\right)}{\frac{1}{x}}$
Combustion
So the answers 0 to the original question?
no
Are you familiar with complex numbers?
Haven’t got there yet
because for real values the upper border is x=1 then the function wont be defined because the root is negative
it's a cubic root
just apply l'hopital on this as it's 0/0
simplify, and you'll get the answer
Ight thanks
My original question was to find the asymptotes of the function (everything under the cubic root)
I figured that there was no horizontal and vertical ones
And I’m stuck on the obligate one
this limit should be solved in a such way:
$\lim_{x \to \infty } \left( x-\sqrt[3]{x^{3}-x^{2}} \right)={{\cdots }}\\a-b=\frac{a^{3}-b^{3}}{a^{2}+ab+b^{2}}$
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Do i just plug in n, evaluate like normal and multiply my answer by 2?
yea, unless there's some more context that gives n a specific value?
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Hi
hii
you can try to convert sqrt x to exponent form
that will make it easier to see what you can do
Yes indeed
Do I subtract 5/2 with 1/2?
da
On both sides
You can simply 4/2 as well in the exponent
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how i have to do
Might want to expand
u mean 3x/2 - 5/2?
The whole product
and the other its x^2+2x+1?
Nono it's x²-1
truue
I'm asking to write (3x/2 - 5/2)(x²-1) as a sum
Do you know what (a+b)(c+d) is?
Heard of FOIL technique? Or maybe a similar name
no
yes
Ok, so what does it mean?
a sum of products by using the fact that multiplication distributes over addition
Ok
So can you expand the product inside the integral?
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confused with step 4
i expandedthe numeraotr and got
x^2 + 2x + x^2 -32x
but idk what is inserted in the brackets for both?
or what kinda process the step is undergoing
true'
ngl the box is too big for 4 😭
i get u..
k
Don't worry about the 'size of the boxes'
They're just made big enough so you can put virtually anything in it
yh but sometimes in the actual exam, the size of box can help you to find answers
so i think thats why she got confused

Ooof sometimes is like a coin toss, never rely on it
true
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can someone help me
it may be helpful to imagine printing 100 business cards. How much would that cost?
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oh myb i was afk
100*0.15
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consider the total cost
100 * 0.15 is the cost in materials, yes
yes, so then how much, in total, does it cost per card?
or in other words, how much would you have to sell each card for, to break even?
more than the rate
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I have to find the value of $C$ in $$\psi(x) = Ce^{-\alpha x}\left(1-e^{-\alpha x}\right)$$ using the fact that $$\int_0^\infty \psi^*\psi \dd x =1$$ but i don't know what the complex conjugate of something like this would be its probably something obvious but i cant figure it out
I can't believe you've done this
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What would be the right bounds for this one?
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I wanna say the inner integral bounds should be from y to 1, but not 100% sure
if you don't get an answer, try asking in #probability-statistics
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A 3 digit multiple of five is created using the digits 0,3,4,5 and 7. How many numbers are possible if all digits in the number must be different?
consider how many possibilities you have for the first digit
and then how many for the second
and then how many for the third
multiplying them yields the number of possible 3-digit numbers
i think you should start with the third
either exclude 0 for the first or start with third yeah
well i meant the number of numbers you can make starting (100s place), for example, with 3 and starting with 5 are different
so this isn't exactly right
oh I misread the task
multiple of five
So like, I put down just 3 empty _ to represent digits. And for the first _ I said there are 5 possibilities because we’re only usint the digits 0,3,4,5 and 7. Is that correct or am I supposed to consider like ALL 3 digit multiples of 5
yeah then ofc start with last digit, as it's 0 or 5
oops I jsed a _
I pit down 3 empty lines
is what I meant
just to visualize it
if you start with the first then you need to exclude 0
since e.g. 035 wouldn't be a three-digit number in that sense
given the criterium that it's a multiple of five
it's easier if you instead start with the last digit
since it's limited to 0 or 5
otherwise you can't have a multiple of 5
ys
so consider the two cases
last digit = 0
then the second digit is either 3/4/5/7
4 options
and the first digit is one of the remaining others
3 options
thereby you have 3*4=12 possible numbers if it ends in 0
now I'll let you ponder the case for last digit = 5
makes sense thanks
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URGENT!
Briefly, how do I check if a function is self dual?
Here the dual and the function arent equivalent are they
And also, is there a faster way to understand this with a truth table?
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I got how this works. Anyone knows how to identify a self dual function by a truth table?
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hello all i need help really quickly how do i find this inverse derivative, I actually have no clue where to start :/
If f(x) = x(sqrt(x-4)), then what is the value of (f^-1)'(2)
this is not not difficult
I gochu
im assuming i find the inverse of f(x), get the derivative of that, then just plug in 2 but i cant seem to get the inverse for f(x)
fr?
You just need to find f'(f^-1(2)) which is f'(4.2242)
Inverse function theorem gives you a formula
and then do 1/that
i kinda get that formula
its basically chainruling g(f(x)) = x or something
to get 1/g(f(x))
Yes so use it
but that requires me to find the iverse of f(x) because it says g(x) equals the inverse of f(x)
and i cant figure out how to do that
sub x and y but then i get some annoying stuff
No it doesn't
is this website just straight up wrong
The question is wrong. thats not possible I think
because f'(f^-1(2)) is complex
the formula is 1/f'(f^-1(2)).
However f^-1(2) is appriximately 4 which will result in derivative of f being complex
additional proof
ok so i just gotta sub 2 for y in f(x) and plug that into f'(x) under 1
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Bruh. But still thats additional proof and it literally used code interpereter which means it used working python libs to do that
which checks out with wolfram so chill
...
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It is wrong though
explain
oh great
I doubt that
“The result indiciates the function is not real valued at x=2” this is not relevant to the question
We r looking at the inverse
Don't break rules then. Not that hard
dude idk even what to do now
Dont find the inverse
He doesnt need to bru
Yeah I said dont
read above @daring sorrel
he said dont
yea but we already know problem is wrong
or at least theres no real solution
so dont complicate things
f^-1(x)=y is the same as y=f(x)
yes, but what's your point
i just gotta do 2=x(sqrt(x-4)) and solve for x
then ill have f^-1(2)?
yes
bad typo mb
Anyway this will be near 4 like u said
excactly
And infact its greater than 4 as wolfram showed
and then f'(~4) = no real sol
So u can plug it in into the derivative and get a real solution
Bro
When a>b a-b>0
im hallucinating its too late
Just like chatgpt when u ask math
sometimes lol
Yeah in math we dont like sometimes
I would just like to know the process for finding (f^-1)'(c) when given f(x) and c
Or in pretty much any subject tbh
because intructional stuff ive found is all wierd and they use different variables
yes but generally I can fact check ir cuz im not bein dunb
you are significant;y underestimating its capabilities
Can you just stop talking
if u hv a problem leave
Im not bro trust me I use it for math all the time and 90% of the time its wrong
You've done nothing but confuse OP
u have gpt4?
thats my bad, but now its over so chill
I will stop talking about this to avoid spamming channel
And now you're just flooding their channel with off topic bs
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Rip
sorry yall i am not great at this stuff
no worries sorry for messing up
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let f be a function such that f"(x) = 6x + 8, Find f(x) if the graph of f is tangent to the line 3x-y=2 at the point (0,-2)
well
Ik the equation tangent to f(x) has a slope of 3
the fact that the graph of f is tangent to y=3x-2 at (0, -2) lets you find f(0) and f'(0)
f'(0) specifically at this stage in particular
wait
why do I do that?
oh
nvm I get it
you set x to 0 to find the constant
right?
since the slope is a constant
f'(0) is also 3
since the slope at 0 has to match that of the tangent line
o
so at pont 0,-2
point* they sharethe same slope
when x is set to 0 for the equation with the constant
we are left
with f'(x) = C
but since we know another equation
we use that and find the slope of that at the specific point 0.-2
and that would be our missing c value
thanks
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how do i find f(x) when given 3 hints
f'(x) = ax^2+ bx
f'(1) = 6 and f"(1)=18
integral of fx from 1,2 is 18
if you could tell me hints
how to get it
put 1 into f’(x), that should be equal to 6
Then differentiate that f’(x), that gets you f’’(x), similar idea (put x=1, you get 18)
From that you should be able to find an and b, then integrate for f(x), then integrate again between 1 and 2…
i get a+ b = 6
wait im slow
then its a sytem of equations and you solve
what about c
how do i find that
Or is there no C to find?
There will be
when you integrate f’(x)
For which, you make use of that third piece of information, the integral $\int_1^2 f(x) \dd x = 18$
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how do I integrate (x^2+1)/(x^3+3x-5)^3
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How exactly do i do this problem? I dont understand what formula to use
,tex .unit circle
Moosey
$\sec(\theta)=\frac{1}{\cos(\theta)}$
Moosey
$\cot(\theta)=\frac{1}{\tan(\theta)}=\frac{\cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)}$
Moosey
How do i figure out the arc length tho? It says I need to find the sec and csc ratios for those arc lengths but i'm a bit lost on how to work my way up
Arc = θ × r
in this case r=1
it should be the same anyways :/
You don't really need the arc length formula
Yeah thats for the first point, but for the 2nd point in question 77 you dont know r u just know the y value
Ohh
y^2+x^2=1
the sqrt wasn't really necessary but it is the orignal formula
yes :)
Next, to find the value of theta in order to find the arc length, do i first find the angle from the horizontal line to the point and add pi/2 to find principal angle?
not too sure about w and t or what that is
but I assume that would be it from appereance
Im still talkinf about the first queation
oh
I mean assuming you have the cosinus
you can solve the secant
or you can solve using arc length 🙂
Or you can just derive the angle given you have a y increase of 0.6 and the hypotenuse of 1 you can use Pythagorean theorem and then sohcahtoa I guess if that makes you happier
Yeah and to get that i need the r which i have and need theta, so do i just use cosine law to find theta in relevance to quadrant 2 since it’s located there, then add 90 to compensate for the fact it’s not in quadrant 1, then convert it to radians from degrees then use the arc length formula to find arc length?
Idk if that sounds too complicated? Is there a shorter way maybe?
I mean if theres a shorter path im all in for it I want to save time
Your x is cos (theta) and your y is sin (theta)
You already have the y value of 0.6
So sin (theta)=0.6
It's doesn't get more complicated than than unless you want to over complicate it by going around
Yes that part is clear
Now
By theta do you mean
This angle a or angle b that i drew?
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For this I need to write an explicit formula for the sequence. How do I do that?
do you see any pattern in the numbers?
Like increasement between each two terms
correct
Ok
Do you see the increasement of ' the increasement'
+2
Yes, define a sequence based on this increasement
not quite
Oh
will help to make our notation a little more precise here
Oh yea because if I did n = 2 then it would be 4 not 5
let's use a_n to denote your original sequence
Ok
then the differences are: \
$a_2 - a_1 = 3 \ a_3 - a_2 = 5 \ a_4 - a_3 = 7 \ a_5 - a_4 = 9$ \
and we are assuming that these differences will keep going as an arithmetic progression
and we must not forget the initial condition of $a_1 = 4$ as well
Ann
i am indexing the terms of your sequence starting at 1 following common practice
read through this, ensure the notation makes sense to you, and ping me once you have done so.
then we will continue.
Ok I got it
ok right
now, give me a moment to think of how next to phrase this while minimizing the chance for off by one errors
Ok
are you familiar with sigma notation?
Yes
Ann
and $a_{k+1} - a_k$, by assumption, is $2k+1$ (verify this. the sequence $b_k := a_{k+1} - a_k$ is assumed to be an arithmetic progression with common difference 2)
Ann
and $a_1$ is 4
Ann
Alright
do you see how to continue from here
This is only for a_2 - a_1 right?
Oh nvm I skipped the a_1 + part
Why would this be 2k + 1?
as in "shouldn't this be something else?" or as in "how did you come up with that?"
How did you come up with that
let b_k := a_{k+1} - a_k
then we know b_1 = 3, b_2 = 5, b_3 = 7 and b_4 = 9
we assume b_k continues as an arithmetic progression
does this make sense to you?
Yea so b_5 would be 11 and so on
No
... right ok let's get that sorted out first then
first off do you know what an arithmetic progression is?
Yes
It’s when numbers in a sequence go up by the same amount. I think it can also go down too but I’m not sure. So it’s like the 3,5,7,9 are all going up by 2
yes, arithmetic progressions can go down.
anyway
you might have seen this:
$u_n = u_1 + (n-1)d$
Ann
Oh ok yea
right
here for b_k our first term is 3 and the common difference is 2
b_k = 3 + (k-1)*2
and simplify that
Wouldn’t it be *4 if the common difference is 4?
So could I do that with this?
Oh right
its sequence of first differences, what i call b_k, is
Ok
do you have anything else left to ask here
So I have to make my formula with b_k
And my formula would look like this?
no
you first construct b_k (reproducing what i did already) then from b_k construct a_n
you will have b_k = 2k+1
$a_n = 4 + \sum_{k=1}^{n-1} (2k+1)$
Ann
work out this sum
7?
.... you should not be getting something that doesn't depend on n lol
you said you were familiar with sigma notation
Yea but not when I have it mixed with arithmetic sequences
pretend it's not mixed in, then
That’s what I did. I completely ignored n and did 4 + 2(1) + 1 to get 7
I don’t know n-1
no, you can't just ignore a crucial part of the notation...
But I don’t know the value of n
n is just n
ok let's seee
let's set this problem aside for the time being
do you know what $\sum_{k=1}^n k$ is
Ann
wrong on all counts
I know what to do when there’s a number in place of n but I’m not sure what I have to do when it’s a variable
ok sounds like you are not as familiar enough with sigma notation as i thought
ok
let's back up one
I’ve only been introduced
do you know how to find the sum of the first n terms of an AP
Yea you add the first however many terms together
this notation clashes with what we did earlier, and this formula will be inconvenient, but yes.
Oh this is what my teacher taught in the lecture
I wrote this directly from her notes
the problem for us is that (1) our sequence is called b_k rather than a_k and (2) we need the sum of the first n-1 terms and not n and (3) we do not immediately know the last (n-1'th) term of our sequence
though (3) is the least worrying of these
$b_{n-1} = 2(n-1) + 1 = 2n-1$
Ann
So this is what I’ll use instead of the one I wrote?
no
... sorry i do not know how to explain this further without just repeating myself a hundred times
Why can’t I put it in a_n?
Why does it have to be b_k
Is it because a_n is arithmetic?
Nvm I’ll ask my professor
…thanks anyway
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hey all how would you differentiate both sides of the eqn. wrt t?
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Please can I get help with number 5
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Hello, I need some food for thought on how to write this proof (I am a beginner). I already know why R<=D<=2R is the case, but I don't know how to write it down. (I translated the problem from another language into english, that's why the format is kinda bad).
If you dont want to read the mathematical definitions:
d(u,w) is the shortest distance from u to w.
D is just the longest distance without any detours in the entire graph.
R just takes the minimum of the longest possible d(u,w) for each individual node.
R<=D is trivial, the real problem is with 2R
it would be nice if someone could just give me a hint instead of the answer as i want to solve it myself
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Assume AB is the longest path in the graph. Q is a node with the smallest distance to the the furthest mode equals R. What is the length of AQB?
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Nope! Thanks for the help
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can anyone tell me what the spectrum of a matrix is?
$\text{The set of all eigenvalues of A is called the spectrum of A }\\\text{and is denoted by σ(A)}$
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set
so for example the matrix [1 0; 02] its spectrum would be [1,2]?
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I \right) =0\right}$
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help 😭
Find a,b such that 3 curves connect
how do you do that 😋
For example, at x=-1 3x+a should match -x^2+2x+6
so equal them??
Otherwise the function won't be continuous
Yeah equal them at x=-1 and solve for a
And then you can use a similar argument to find b
solets say to find a i equal 1 and 2 and fill in x as 1?
then i do the same thing with 2 and 3 to find b?
im like hopeless at this 😭
yes right but formally , it should be written in a such way:
$\lim_{x \to -1^{-}} f\left( x \right)=\lim_{x \to -1^{+}} f\left( x \right)\\\lim_{x \to 2^{-}} f\left( x \right)=\lim_{x \to 2^{+}} f\left( x \right)$
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after writing those limits, yes, correct
ok so lets say for finding B, id use equations 2 and 3, but unlike 1 and 2 there so definiet equals sign theres a range, so in that case what would i do
i do not see the difference
so like in the first one it was x is less than 1, the second 1 its x is greater or qual than -1 less than 2
x less than -1 you wanted to write ?
um well youre meant to input x=-1 when trying to find a right?
so to find b what value would you input in for x?
ohhhhhhhhhh sorry i didnt read it properly, i kept focusing on the wrong one 💀
ok)
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cheers and thanks for the help
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Is there a way to do this with graph?
I feel like this could be solved with an algorithm. Generally, you know that the sum of x and y should equal a multiple of 5. In addition, the sum of x and y should be no greater than 50 and no less than 5 (lowest possible is 2 but anything lower than 5 would not work). Does this help?
oh yea that method works
i was just thinking if there was a way with graphs
like x + y =5k a strgt line but i dont know what to do with it
There probably is. I think that a multivariable function f(x,y) would work best. Is that taught in your class?
nah
I saw somewhere probabiltiy density function
So i thought of this approach
But i dont know much about it
oh can the intersection between the area of y 1 to 25 x 1 to 25 and y = 5k - x be the points?
try to answer the question for x = 1, then x=2,... up to x=5 and try to see a pattern
Using your x + y = 5k, letting k be a natural number 0 through 50, then I would look along the slope to find coordinate pairs that would match what you are looking for. For example:
x+y=5k, k = 2 (5k = 10)
Looking along the slope, you can see that (3,7), (5,5), and (2,8) are pairs that match what you are looking for.
Can this work?
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Can y' be independent of anything or has to be independent of x only ?
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How do i solve this? I have attatched my current workings but I dont think its going somewhere
damn you ms paint (new attachment below)
It wont work if I equate the 2 equations, will it?
I was having a problem solving it. How do I know that I can just equate them? Sometimes I just cancel my equations out to 0=0
well the question is "what values of c make this have two intersections" so we care about their intersections
But if we equate them, how do we garuntee 2 intersections, not only 1?
using c
Am I supposed to be able to solve x^2 + 2cx - 4x + 4 - c = 0 when it has 2 variables?
should I use simultaneous eq?
you won't be able to find values for x
but you'll be able to say when that equation has 2 solutions
yes using the discriminant
ah
be mindful of the fact that the c in "b^2 - 4ac" means a different thing than the c from your equation
$(c\approx 5,541\ c\approx -0,541)$
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huh seems kinda unsatisfying
you should get a range for c, not two values
and generally you'll want to leave it in exact form
c < (5−sqrt(37))/2 or c > (5 + sqrt(37))/2
i would not recommend that
the range seems kinda cap
yea
$\left(2c-4\right)^{2}-4\left(4-c\right)>0$
Moosey
is this not what you did?
you will get two open intervals. This results from solving a quadratic with respect to c. The quadratic will be zero at two points and dip below the x-axis, and on the other sides of the zeros, it will be positive.
How do I know this without visual proof?
Well I gathered it from the visual proof. This can be turned into a quadratic that factors nicely as well
no need for any quadratic formula even
Idk man ive never done that before im doing AS lvl atm
well, when you set the curves equal, you move everything to one side, and you get a quadratic. All you care about is when this quadratic has b^2-4ac>0 (when you have two real solutions, this corresponds to the line and the curve intersecting twice)
this is the resulting inequality you get
but why did the quadratic formula only give 2 answers if there are multiple real ones?
the quadratic formula tells you the zeros
if you do b^2-4ac=0 this corresponds to where the curves intersect exactly once
so if this equals zero, it will only be the c values where the line intersects exactly once with the parabola
it's why we need >0
finding where this is 0 is helpful anyways though, as it gives us the transition points we need (i.e. where it goes from 2 intersection points, to 1 , to 0)
i dont know enough theory to understand this yet unfortunately
You're focused on where $x^{2}+(2c-4)x+(4-c)$ has two real zeros. This parabola comes from setting the two curves equal
Moosey
x^2+2cx+4= (4x+c) -> x^2+2cx+4-(4x+c)=0 -> x^2+(2c-4)x+(4-c)=0
a=1, b=(2c-4), c=(4-c)
when you say 2 real zeroes, what does that mean? Is it 2 real intersections at y=0?
yes
ah
now, since we're focused on purely the case where there's two real zeros, we want the discriminant of this quadratic (b^2-4ac), to be greater than 0
which gets us this. We can solve this by simplifying and factoring, with no need for quadratic formula
$\left(2c-4\right)^{2}-4\left(4-c\right)>0$
Moosey
I see. But when you expand, why does it make a sussy range?
[(2(c-2))^{2}-4(4-c)>0]
Applying $(xy)^{2}=x^2 y^2$, and distributing $-1$ to $(4-c)$
[4(c-2)^{2}+4(c-4)>0]
Divide both sides by $4$
[(c-2)^{2}+(c-4)>0]
Expanding $(c-2)^{2}$
[c^2-4c+4+c-4>0]
Canceling like terms
[c^2-3c>0]
[c(c-3)>0]
Moosey
c(c-3)>0 only when c and c-3 are both negative, or c and c-3 are both positive
this comes strictly in the case where...
c<0 and c>3 respectively
it's not a continous interval
oh because c(c-3) / c > 0 / c = c-3>0 if c is positive else c-3<0 so c<3
doesnt the sign flip when you divide by negative?
look what happens when you plug in for example -0.1 for c
(-.1)(.-1-3)=(-.1)(-3.1)=positive
but once we go past 0...
(.1)(.1-3)=(.1)(-2.9)=negative
and until we get to 3...it's negative, but once we get to a number slightly above 3...
(3.1)(3.1-3)=(3.1)(.1)=positive
so we get two intervals for where c will give us two intersections, with an interval between them that doesn't give valid c



