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oh well kinda haha
ill just use this acct issok :>
u dun mind can write it out maybe? a bit hard to visualise
like the idea is we don't give a shit where our tangent exactly is
we just need the general direction it points to
and that general direction is given by r'
uh huh so how do i use part a to cont from what i got
just evaluate r'(t), at the times t when r(t) touches the plane
that's it
no complicated expansion around the curve to write
er u dun mind can write it out :">
nah
you should already have computed everything you need
it's just a matter of plugging the right stuff in the right place
you know r'(t)
exactly thats the problem TvT
yes yes
you know at what times the curve r(t) intersects the plane (from the previous question normally)
say t0 and t1
the issue is idk how to sub in wtv im sup to sub in
you need r'(t0) and r'(t1)
uh huh mhm
wait i still feel so lost i understand bttr with the actual workings uk TvT sorry if its troublesome but ye
do you have your working out for the previous question ?
mhm yes yes
ok
this is what I mean with "times at which r(t) intersect the plane"
and this is what I mean by plug those times into r'(t)
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im trying to isolate y to find the slope so what im getting is
y + ky = kx - x+ 3
y+ ky/k = kx/k - x/k + 3/k
2y = x/2 - x+3/k
y= x/2 - x+3/k
am i doing it right
I would start by setting x = 0 and solving for possible values of y.
why am i setting x = 0?
Because the line crosses the y-axis at x = 0.
i still have two variables left
okay i see
if its at the center of the graph is it y = 0 or x = 0
its 0 on both axes
Well, try solving for x = 0 and y = 0 and see what happens.
I cant
y + 0 = k(0-y) + 3
y = -yk + 3
And what happens when y = 0?
same thing i guess?
What do you get? Work it out.
x = kx +3
x- kx = 3
x- kx/k = 3/k
1 = -3/k
There is something called Proof by Contradiction. It's a way of proving something is false by showing one example where it doesn't work. In this case, by solving with x = 0 and y = 0, you can show whether b is a possible valid answer.
This is incorrect. You didn't divide the first y by k.
huh
So that I can put it into y = mx + b form.
y = -(1 - k)x + 3/(k+1)
You mathed incorrectly.
divide the other side by (1+k)
subtract (1- k)x and put it before the y intercept
so its mx + b
thats what i did
Yes.
so how do i put that on a graph
does k not being equal to -1 one mean it cant be negative?
k not equal to -1 is there because that would result in k + 1 = 0 in the denominator.
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i need help deriving the single linear regression model using the MLE method
like i understand setting up L(yi|xi;b0,b1,s^2) but like i dont really get the math after that lol
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Okay this might be a weird question, and i really should know how to calculate that, since im studying CS, lol.
i've booked 5 traintickets for 5 people, and the sum of that is 455€.
now one person has an German Train Card, which gives them 25% of the price.
How much does that person pay, and how much does everyone else pay?
so my first calculation was,
455€ / 5 = 91 per person
91 *0,25 = 22,75
91 - 22,75 = 68,25 (Thats how much the person with discount has to pay)
22 ,75 / 4 = 5,68 (that adds on, on top of the other peoples price)
91+5,68 = 96,68 price of the other ones
25% of the price or off the price?
25 discount, so 25% off the price, excuse me :D
that works.
... i think...
yea alright, i dont even know what happened here, brainfart
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the 455 already has the discount included, so dividing by 5 is not correct.
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Is this E?
so it is D..
it would be E if the radius was 10 in
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Let X and Y be two random variables representing the heights of a randomly selected man and woman, respectively. X follows a normal distribution with a mean of 175 cm and a standard deviation of 5 cm, and Y follows a normal distribution with a mean of 160 cm and a standard deviation of 4 cm. Calculate the probability that a randomly selected man is taller than a randomly selected woman.
I'm trying to find P(X>Y) and this is equal to P(X-Y>0) so I set up ((x-175)/5) - ((x-160)/4) > 0
Not sure where to go from here
nah
all good 🙂
lol, more math in the future for you
Hey Hayley could you help? I see you have a helpful tag
yeah i was strategically ignoring this question because i don't remember how to calculate the sum of two normal distributions
i know it'll be a normal dist
and the mean should be clear
ahh all good
but idk how the stdev works
yea sorry for drawing you into this question you were strategically trying to ignore
I'll tag helpful in about 10min if no response comes in, ik yall are busy with your own things to do
Linear combination of normal distributions isssss.... drumroll also normal 😄
ohhh
okay wait
okay nvm
i failed
I thought i had something
but then i didn't
In particular $X \sim N(\mu, \sigma^2) \implies aX \sim N(a\mu, a^2\sigma^2)$
learath2
And $X_1 \sim N(\mu_1, \sigma_1^2), \land , X_2 \sim N(\mu_2, \sigma_2^2) \implies X_1 + X_2 \sim N(\mu_1 + \mu_2, \sigma_1^2 + \sigma_2^2)$
yes agreed
learath2
okayokay
So you can use the first property to get -Y with a = -1, then the second to get X - Y
So X-Y is a new random variable in itself and thus you need to recalculate the new mean and variance for the normal distribution of two random variables in this case
is that correct ish?
Or you can standardize both at the start and use the fact that sum or difference of two standard norms is N(0, 2)
Yes Z = X - Y if you will
and Z will be another normal distribution
could you elaborate?
Normal distributions are closed under linear transformations, that's why they are so nice to work with
I think i need a better understanding of normal distributions and linear transformations before approaching this problem, i think that is where my issue lies
$X \sim N(\mu, \sigma^2) , \land , Z = \frac{X - \mu}{\sigma} \sim N(0,1)$
learath2
When you subtract the mean and divide by the std. dev you get a "standard normal"
yea
Note the second property I gave, with the 0 means of the standard normal you'll get another norm at 0, and sigma^2 + sigma^2 is trivially 2
So sum of 2 standard normals is N(0, 2)
ohh this is when there are two random variables that are normally distributed
Yes
ok N(0,2) makes complete sense now
So when i finish this problem in theory
I should find the new mean and variance for what we labeled as Z to be Z = X-Y
wait then what.... because I need an x to evaluate this problem and then use z-table
to find the probability
Well when you find Z, you can normalize it, and then you can use your z-table, no?
To find Z don't I need a numerical value?
((x-175)/5) - ((y-160)/4) > 0
Wouldn't i need a numerical value? at x and y
then i can normalize it
I think you may be a little confused. We want P(X > Y) = P(X - Y > 0). Why not just start by figuring out the distribution of X - Y?
okay lets do that one step at a time
It's just a suggestion, what you did looks like you normalized first, which is also completely fine, we can do that too
Actually, no we can't, it's very unfun
Let's do it my way because it's almost 4am here 😄
oh my
so sorry
lets make this quick lol
Dude love your help but get some rest
I'll just ask tmmr
Dw about me, get some rest 🙂
Well let's give it a go, if I fall asleep I fall asleep 😄
I'll try to do this again with the info you gave me
if your good with it, but I've been in your spot and lets say I wouldn't be helping a stranger on DC at 4am lol
Any progress on the distribution for X - Y? It's just applying the two properties I gave in order
The variances get added, note the a^2 in the 1st one
X - Y = X + (-1)Y is what we are really doing though, no?
Doing (-1)Y with the first property, you'll see the a^2 kills negative values
Hey man, I think im gonna watch a video, because I don't think i am too familiar with the basics
So it's not exactly a linear combination of the mean and variance. The property of normal distributions is that their linear combinations are also normal. That doesn't say anything about the mean and the variance of the new normal distributions that arise from combining them
At this your probably gonna walk me through every step ngl
I'll learn a bit more tonight and ask tmmr
I just couldn't get the problem started because it seems like I don't quite know what I was doing from the start lol
I know the Variacne property you mentioned
But idk how that applied to normal because we are looking for the probability...?
After you figure out the distribution for X - Y, the next step is creating a standard normal from it, so you subtract the mean from both sides of the inequality and divide both sides by the stddev, that'll give you your standard normal on the left and then you can use your z-table
Watching a video is a good idea, cya tomorrow 
Ok I follow
Get some rest, thanks for kickstarting this issue for me and helping me find out what the root of my problem was in this
preciate it 🙂
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I need to figure out what number put on both sides makes the following equal true:
x^2 + 6x + blank = -2 + blank
How do I do this?
does the question asking to factor it?
I guess I have to factor it
But it’s confusing because idk what number I would need to try out
you put the numbers like this $x^2+6x+2=0$
Akira
if it doesn't factor then you gotta use quadratic formula
Yea ik how to factor but I don’t know what numbers to put in
Because it says blank and it needs to match both sides
Looks like a completing the square exercise
Any number works, but one specific number allows u to factor
I thought so, but that means I have to keep trying over and over until I get the right number?
There isn’t a way to find out which number it is without randomly putting numbers?
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This is what I have so far for trying to find the arc length but don’t know where to go from here or if this is right so far
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wait should it be 1/4 * y^-6 not y^-1?
correct
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just a quick question what should my coordinate plane number range be like?
so that i can graph using 2x +3y = -1 and 20y+30y=-10
to find their intersecting point
i know they're already coincident lines
but what should my coordinate plane be like?
1-10?
1-100?
10-100 sorry
it is 20x + 30y = -10
yes, but what range of number should i use for the coordinate plane?
like those number
but i have to put up a graph about my points for both equation
i have to provide a x and y
or have an x and solve for y using the equation provided
ive already checked it out and it is coincident plane just that i need and x and y value
oh okok thanks
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if i have two discrete Random Variables with their PMF's how do i find E[XY] when they are not independent?
do i just multiply their PMFs?
lets say that i have two PMFs
i need to find their covarience
the formula for that is
E[XY] -E[X]E[Y]
i need to find E[XY]
You basically have to calculate on some double summations. 🙂
f(x,y) being their joint pmf?
antichronos
alr imma try this
umm sooo
An urn contains 8 white balls and 6 red balls. 2 balls are selected at random. Let X denote the number of red balls drawn and let Y denote the number of white balls drawn
in this case
my join pmf
comes to be
how to do double summitions?
imma just watch a YT vid on this or smth
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Hi
this is probably the easiest and fastest way if you’re facing this on an exam
I'm not, it a assignment
But It might be that the same question appears and says show you work
Then I'm done for
other than that, there is the form $$ \frac ab vs. \frac{a + c}{b + d} $$ in the first statement
even order group => solvable
substituting numbers in is a valid form of work
“Substitute x = …, y = …, z = … into the equation. We see that it does not hold. Therefore, this inequality is false” if you can find counterexamples
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Can you help me solve 20/0.15 on paper
what part is confusing? The decimal being in the denominator?
I never practiced division and I forgot the process
Been using a calculaor
for like 20 years
20 years
Do you know that multiplying the numerator and denominator of a fraction keeps it unchanged?
$\frac 12 = \frac 24 = \frac 48$
neonperseus
U can make denomistor whole number
No I want to divide by a decimal
Why
well that's complicating it unnecessarily
$$ \frac {100}1 = \frac{15}{0.15} $$
even order group => solvable
I don't want to discuss fractions at this time. I am asking for help dividing by a decimal
With the process they taught in school, on paper
I don't think long division can be done with the decimal in the denominator
the way I was taught to divide by decimal was to not divide by decimal and instead multiply both parts until they are both integers
neonperseus
Something like this, sure
Is this possible?
just copy the decimal point directly above where it is and do normal long division in this case
I don't understand, can you show me with paint
,calc 20/0.15
Result:
133.33333333333
you’re supposed to put 0.15 on the left
Result:
0.0075
I figured out what I was trying to figure out
But I'm just going to forget it again soon, but thanks
you can refer to this if you forget
do you mean .coose
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what is the implication if a point you plug in is neg or pos
where did he get the -3
zeros: -3, 1, 4
this one?
the domain/solution
so you're asking why -3 belongs to the solution
yes
what's f(-3)
does that answer your question of "why does -3 belong to the solution set?"
yes but why did he have to do all the interval stuff figure that out
he wasn’t doing that to figure it out
im entirely lost at the purpose
what is the implication if a point you plug in is neg or pos
you're gonna have to try to phrase your question clearer btw, i don't really understand what you're saying here
he was doing it to figure out if the points in between were solutions
how does it show if they are solutions
if they are neg ?
ok so
heres what we are doing here
f is a continuous function, which means [informally] that in order to change sign, it must pass through zero
so to find the points where f changes sign, we find its zeros
and then assert that on any interval between two adjacent zeros, f does not change sign
do you follow thus far Y/N
so if it does change sign theres a zero
yes that is what i said
where is the original sign
what do you mean by that
SO if he plugged in NEGATIVE 4 and f(-4)= a pos number the sign changed

the sign changed from what to what?
try something like “solving polynomial inequalities”
so if you evaluate f(-4) and the result is positive it changed sign and thats means what ?
it changed sign
remove this

f(-4) is positive, which means that f is positive on the entire interval that contains -4
in this case (-∞, -3)
no clue
"what you just said was as if you spoke Chinese to me"
okay
look
we found the zeros of the function: -3, 1, 4
these points break the number line into four intervals:
(-∞, -3), or x < -3
(-3, 1), or -3 < x < 1
(1, 4), or 1 < x < 4
(4, +∞), or x > 4
WITHIN each of these intervals, f(x) is sign-cosntant
do you understand this yes or no
yes
ok
f(-4) is positive
-4 lies in (-∞, -3)
therefore, within (-∞, -3), f(x) is positive
do you understand this yes or no
what does within mean
same as "in" in this case
oh i get it
or on
or inside of
you couldve asked the first time i said "within"
why didnt you
therefore, for all x in (-∞, -3), f(x) is positive
ok
we can find the same info for the other 3 intervals
and in doing so we will have found out the sign behavior of f everywhere
and all that remains is to pick out only the parts we want
which are
so thats why he picked 1<x<4
why did it change to greater than or equal to ?
because he found out theres a zero ?
ok but where did the x=-3 come from in the final solution
so that was just left over ?
≤ 0 means negative or zero
it means you want to include all those points at which your function was 0
i.e. the endpoints of the interval (1, 4), turning it into the closed interval [1, 4]
and the point -3
what does this solution look like in interval notation ?
so thats just what was left over ?
idk what you mean by "left over"
{-3} ∪ [1,4]
(-inf,-3) means the set of numbers that are smaller than -3
set not group
i mean you have some balls
Is -4 included in your answer
no
(-inf, -3) does include -4
so he just threw x=-3 into the domain because it was in the original set ?
no
f is positive on (-∞, -3), which is not what we want, so that interval does not go into our solution.
ive never seen one term alone
only its endpoint -3 goes in, because at that point the value of f is 0.
where is this confirmed
in the written solution, you mean?
zeros: -3, 1, 4
if you insist on putting it that way, yes.
they turned into that because plugging 2 in made f(x) neg ?
no
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how do I find the power series for 4*ln |x+5|
Do you know the power series for ln (x + 1)
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3/7 * 14/1
I'm watching a video, the guy divided both the 7 and 14 by 7 to make 3/1 * 2/1.
Can someone explain to me why this works please?because I'm confused why he did to the numorator what he did to the denominator of the 3/7, and also why It's okay to leave the 3 and the 1 as they are..
when you multiply fractions, you should think of multiplying the top of each together, and the bottom of each together
so $$\frac{3}{7} \cdot \frac{14}{1} = \frac{3 \cdot 14}{7\cdot 1}$$
maximofs
does that make sense so far?
That makes sense yeah, I was confused why he made the 7 a 1 and 14 a 2 by dividing by 7 though and not touching the other numbers of each fraction
i will get to that
ah okay thanks
yeah
so we can swap the numbers on the bottom
$$\frac{3 \cdot 14}{7\cdot 1} = \frac{3\cdot 14}{1\cdot 7}$$
maximofs
now we can split it again for the sake of clarity
so we can write
$$\frac{3\cdot 14}{1\cdot 7} = \frac{3}{1}\cdot \frac{14}{7}$$
maximofs
what is 14/7?
2
yes
so this becomes 3/1 * 2/1
and as you may know, a number over 1 is just the number itself
so 3 * 2
what they did is basically the same thing
I understand perfectly now it just clicked, thank you!
this is just a more elaborate way to do it and should explain why we can do it
no problem
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can u help me solve this with working
,rccw
what's troubling you with this problem?
like i dont understand what is the first step
well, since x^2 - 3 is a factor of p(x), what can we say about the zeros of p(x) based on this?
can we say that x^2 - 3 should be multiplied to x^2 - (root(2) - root(5)) - root(10)
no, bad. also doesn't answer my question.
or root(-3) is zero of the p(x)
sqrt(-3) isn't even real, but no, it is not a zero of p(x).
can i get help on determinants ?
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reposting for people
no, are you sure you definitely mean sqrt(-3) there?
- do you understand that sqrt(-3) isn't a real number
- even ignoring this, x^2 - [sqrt(-3)]^2 is x^2 + 3, not what you want
- sqrt(-3) isn't the same thing as -sqrt(3)
i gave you the chance to correct yourself earlier
i did not notice
anyway, ok
we now know p(x) must have the following zeros:
-sqrt(5), -sqrt(3), sqrt(2), sqrt(3)
and that p(x) has degree 4
this determines p(x) almost uniquely
by the way, we didn't need to calculate those roots, we could have just left (x^2 - 3) as it was
again -sqrt(5) isn't the same as sqrt(-5)
i want to emphasize that there are four known roots and therefore none left unfixed
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how do i draw the djikstra algorithm im confused
those are indeed the first two nodes Dijkstra's would visit starting at A
im confused on the next step
i was wondering should i do the A-B-F
but like the distance is longer than if we just go from A-H-G-F
A is the starting point btw
make a list of all the nodes the algorithm can see and their current shortest path costs
here I think the lowest cost would be AH at 421 (compare with ABH at 503 and ABCH at 567)
as you visit nodes you can cross them off the list and add new ones or update costs if the new node uncovers a better path
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i did take notes on the distance
im just unsure of the steps, which one i should make it blue first
Wow
well, whichever one has the lowest distance to A when taking the blue highway and one additional step
im confused should i color vertex D blue first before i do the other
no, because C is much closer - it has a distance of 65+distance(B)
they seem to be
I usually mark the distance next to each node so I can easily see what comes next
thankss so much
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Do you remember what polar coordinates are?
the circle
Right, but more than that?
angle and radius
(r, theta)
don't you just replace x with rcostheta and y with rsintheta
yeah exactly
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Draw number labels on image and screenshot
it's not clear what you're doing with your numbers
?
i.e we have no idea how you're getting
70 and 34
perimeter of 25 and 10?
what exactly are you adding up
70 and 34
firstly 25 and 10 aren't perimeters
and how does adding 25 and 10 get 70 or 34
lmao
hii so take what i say with a grain of salt bc i'm not that great at math but this problem doesn't give you that much to work with
i just used the google calculator
true
i'm trying to get into IB
it gives you enough
we're trying to get you to mark your diagram so that you actually add up the correct values and not double count or under count
yeah i can tell
but
25 + 10 is 50% of the thing
x 2 to get final answer
ok, that gets you 70, where's 34 coming from
Isn’t that correct?
12+10x2-10
Because the side of the rec is 10
You minus 10 to remove it
Right? Maybe idk
we're trying to get you to mark your diagram so that you actually add up the correct values and not double count or under count
Yes
they're asking you to draw on the picture to show ur calculations i think
(because you're overcouting here)
yeah theres an empty space here so you cant do 2(25+10)
its not that you can't do it,
its that you need to be aware of what you're adding
Lmao me too
there's a nice trick with these types of perimeter problems
Yes
extend lines out, this will have the same perimeter as a 25cm by 22cm rectangle
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how do you integrate a composite function f(g(x))
chain rule
chain rule is for differentiating
yeah ok
I was asking, cuz there's chain rule for any composite function so is there any rule for going the other way
depending on how nice the composition is, u-sub may work
ibp may also work
and if your composition is messed up, then you're pretty much stuffed
U-substitution
Integration by parts
there is not in general a formula to integrate f(g(x)). Integrals are in some way finicky!
ah ok thanks
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How do I do this
I know I have to find (dR)/(dt)
and I know that (dR_1)/(dt) is 0.5
and (dR_2)/(dt) is -1.1
it's just idk how to find (dR)/(dt)
R=R1R2/R1+R2
well you could take the derivative of this equation wrt time as you no doubt have done for the last ten or so problems
parentheses + unnecessary
Yes
Like why not product quotient rule n stuff u can use ryt
too long and painful.
differentiating both sides wrt $t$ \textbf{as is}, i.e. \textbf{without} signing yourself up for pain and suffering, you get: $$-\frac{\dot{R}}{R^2} = -\frac{\dot{R}_1}{R_1^2} -\frac{\dot{R}_2}{R_2^2}$$
Ann
what
or, once you multiply by $-1$ and perhaps also by $R^2$: $$\dot{R} = R^2\paren{\frac{\dot{R}_1}{R_1^2} +\frac{\dot{R}_2}{R_2^2}}$$
Ann
overdot means time derivative
oh ok
if you want i can rewrite the same thing w/o the unfamiliar notation, at the cost of it getting a bit more bloated...
uuuh no need
also the parentheses you put here are redundant
do you have anything else to ask regarding this problem?
so how did we get here
Wabbout differentiating both sides of original equation wrt R1
so then we just sub right?
unnecessary, painful, and gets us nowhere near our goal.
yes, though you will need to find the value of R first.
but that, hopefully, is not hard.
what?
Yea ryt
how did those logarithms happen?
I differentiated both sides wrt R1
Did I do smthg super dumb
yes you did. $\dv{R_1} \paren{\frac{1}{R_1}} = -\frac{1}{R_1^2} \neq \ln(R_1)$
Ann
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i really am not understanding the difference between these two questions
i cant visualize whats its asking or how to even start
do u know what does taking the limit of a function mean?
its looking at what values its approaching?
yh it means to see what happens at y when x is near the value of the limit
right
as t go to 0 from right, y approaches...
yup
well it's not infinity
look at what the graph represents
it says it in the exercise
temperature of a pie as it comes out of the oven
exactly
clearly the pie temperature won't go to infinity after u take it out the oven
what do u expect to happen IRL
eventually it will reach room temp
yup
i had someone else try to explain and their explanation was so wordy
thank you so much
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Please start explaining by a hint or clue
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What is the greatest value of 1 / [ 3^(1-sin(x))]
I’m not sure how to approach this
The only thing I can find of is solving 1 - sin(x) separately
And setting it equal to 0 or something
well you could write your function as 3^(sin(x)-1), for a start...
For 3^(a) to be least 'a' shd be least
this function's maximums happen at the same values of x as those of sin(x)-1
and also those of sin(x)
and you ought to know when the raw sine is maximized, and what its maximum value is
Regular sin(x) is 1-<=x<=1
typos
not x
What?
what you wrote reads as "sin(x) can only accept inputs between -1 and 1" which is incorrect and irrelevant to your problem
you could have said "the raw sine ranges from -1 to 1" and saved yourself the trouble of forcing me to correct you
yes but you wrote it incorrectly
breh
it is not x itself that ranges from -1 to 1
it's not x itself that ranges from -1 to 1, but what does?
sin(x)
answered your own question.
okay
in any case, once you know what the maximum value of sin(x) is, you also know (or can easily find) the maximum value of sin(x)-1 and hence also that of 3^(sin(x)-1)
since 3^t is a strictly increasing function
I haven’t worked with exponentials that have a trig term in it
What does that look like?
you want a graph?
it isn't necessary here
but i can give you one anyway if you want
Yeah I don’t think I’ve ever seen an exponential with like sin or cos as it’s exponent before
Helps me better visualise what I’m dealing with anyway
oh that’s strange
The peaks and trough aren’t symmetrical like sin(x)
So if the maximum of sin(x) - 1 is 0
How can I use that to find the max of 3^(sin(x) - 1)
this function's [3^(sin(x)-1)] maximums happen at the same values of x as those of sin(x)-1
sure aren't. 3^t is nonlinear.
By Nonlinear you talking about curves?
because sin(x) also doesn’t have straight lines

composing a nonlinear function with a sinusoid gives something that might also look like a sinusoid, but its peaks and troughs generally need not be symmetrical.
Why is this the case?
But if something has the form a^x wouldn’t a change the maximum and minimum of the function
bad notation, but
it changes the max and min value themselves, yes. but it doesn't change the inputs at which those max and min values happen.
the max of sin(x)-1 is 0.
Oh yeah
the max of 3^(sin(x)-1) is 3 to the power of that.
3^0 so it’s 1?
sure is.
How do we know this is the case?
let $f$ and $g$ be functions with $g$ strictly increasing, and let $x_0$ be a point at which $g$ attains its maximum. then $f \circ g$ also attains its maximum at $x_0$, and its value there (as it would be anyway) is $f(g(x_0))$.
Ann
So essentially composite functions have the same max as it’s parent function?
a composite function has its maximum at the same point as the inner function, provided that the outer function is strictly-increasing.
no such thing as a "parent" function
Really, isn’t that a thing?
at best it's a vague thing that sometimes helps with graphing
"parent function" generally describes a simple-to-write-down or simple-to-graph function whose graph may be transformed into that of the one you want
parent function would imply that the child function is dependant on the parent function which is not the case, i think?
in the case of composite functions^
Oh
and these transformations may involve composing stuff on either side of the "parent" function, in or out
Alright
So after finding that 3^(sin(x) - 1) has a max of 1, what would be the next step
Also is this like a general rule or does it only apply in this context
i gave you the general rule
well what did the problem ask you to do?
Find the greatest value of that function
But it’s being divided by 1 isn’t it
1/3^(sin(x) - 1)
no, your function was 1/3^(1-sin(x))
and the first thing we did was write it as 3^(sin(x)-1)
"divide by 1" would mean 1 is in the denom btw
How would I say it
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"but we were looking at its reciprocal, weren't we"
or simply "but we had it in the denominator" or something
idk
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Is this right?
For i?
Because the solutions say something different
These are the solutions
Why is my i different to the solutions I
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Which one is the answer for i?
Could you write it on a separate piece of paper so we can read and check it more easily?
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This is my answer @candid yarrow
These are the solutions
Could you write your answer to the question on a separate piece of paper than the question, so we can read and check your answer more easily?
It was fine to read before but anyways
This expression looks right, maybe the answer key isn’t the right one for this question paper?
or there was a typo
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Hello
Ziggy
It's not?
depending on the context, this symbol may refer to either the real root or the principal complex root (with lowest argument)
also like... your question, interpreted to the letter, admits the interpretation of "complex number" as meaning any element of C, i.e. potentially also referring to real numbers, rather than specifically "complex but not real".
in which case the answer becomes "because it is the cube root of a complex number. what else could it be if not a complex number itself?"
@lean tendon did you perhaps mean "I plugged this into WA and got a result with i in it, rather than a real number as I was expecting. What gives?"
Could this symbol indicate the complex roots of x³=-3
one of, maybe.
having a symbol like this be multivalued opens up a very deep and disgusting can of worms.
Ziggy
and looking at the rots
and solving this in mathematica yes
and it gives me
${0,0,\sqrt[3]{-3},-\sqrt[3]{3},-\sqrt[3]{-1}^2\left(\sqrt[3]{3}\right)}$
Hmm this can be factored as x²(x + 3^⅓)(x² - 3^⅓ x +3^⅔)
Ziggy
principal complex root?
Ann
every complex number save for 0 has exactly 3 cube roots, which are the same in magnitude but differ by 1/3 of a full turn in argument.
what's "it"?

no need to sadcat me when you're the one who's not expressing your own questions clearly enough.
you're asking me a question which i have trouble interpreting. what else do you expect me to say?
so this polynomial has a complex root
Are you sure that he knows the basic of e^ix= cos x+ isin x, ann?
this particular polynomial has a conjugate pair of complex roots, yes.
yes
who's he?
but why is that conjugate pair cubed?
i am a he it's fine
not sure what you mean by "cubed"
to the power of three
mathematica's output doesn't contain any 3rd powers...
I don't know what those mean
