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wicked root
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Ok 73*27

wanton fiber
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1923

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eh prob not

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1977 i meaned

wicked root
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Ok Valerie you tried

wanton fiber
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its cuz i only do division

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im bad at mult

wicked root
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82/3?

wanton fiber
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27.3

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repeating

wicked root
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Hmmm

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Oh yeah

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Correct

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Took me a minute

wanton fiber
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yes

wicked root
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I had a blind history professor who could tell you what day of the week any given date was

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Best history professor ever

wanton fiber
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prob just did some method

wicked root
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Yes

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Calculation, but still

wanton fiber
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how long did it take him after asking

wicked root
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Hmmm

wanton fiber
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to answer

wicked root
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Like about 15 seca

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Or less

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He was really quick

wanton fiber
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he prob just did 1956=tuesday when september+ leap day

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lol

wicked root
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And could do it for decades back

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Yea but still

wanton fiber
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give me one like that

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i wanna see if i can do it

wicked root
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Ok hmmmm

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Without looking at a calendar

wanton fiber
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ik

wicked root
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What was 19th of August 2020?

wanton fiber
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moonday

wicked root
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Nope

wanton fiber
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i was joking... lol

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tuesday

wicked root
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No

wanton fiber
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x=4?

wicked root
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?

wanton fiber
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thats the answer

wicked root
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Yea yea

wanton fiber
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how old r u

wicked root
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Why, do you mean to hit on me?

wanton fiber
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have u taken the sat yet

wicked root
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I'm not in the usa

wanton fiber
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oh

wicked root
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I'm older than that

wanton fiber
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ima be billionare when older

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no kap

wicked root
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Ok

neat lintel
honest veldt
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I like the spirit

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Go get em

snow lintel
neat lintel
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maybe in 3 billion years aswell

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if he doesnt pay tax

neat lintel
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everyone will be bilionaire there will be a big inflaction or something

inner finch
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lmao

neat lintel
cold needle
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yw

neat lintel
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who is welcome

fair mural
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hi carla

neat lintel
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hiiii

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you got a new haircut

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so pretty

fair mural
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thanks

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did you change your pfp, you look less sleep deprived

primal crater
silver walrus
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i have obtained the sacred texts

neat lintel
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sacred?

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is it your bible?

silver walrus
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yes

neat lintel
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Are you one of those weird fishers?

silver walrus
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yeah šŸ˜Ž

neat lintel
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nice

wicked ore
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How do you prove that a specific function is continuous on its domain? For example 2^x with domain R?

neat lintel
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cant you do that with a derivative.... or a limit.... somehow?

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or perhaps more creatively with an integral

old crow
jovial ember
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I mean in general given an explicit function you have to just show it pulls back open sets to open sets. It suffices to do this for a basis of the target

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It just happens to be that in this situation there’s an equivalent way to do it via epsilon delta because metric space

old crow
neat lintel
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generalization is overrated

wicked ore
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But how do you do that explicitly? Like if I told you to prove that any polynomial from R to R is continuous, using the topological definition of continuity, could you do that?

near mulch
leaden torrent
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yes

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but like

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it quickly unpacks to a more metric-biased definition

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once you start laying out what makes a set open in R

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since, you know, thats based on metrics

wicked ore
wicked ore
leaden torrent
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roughly yeah

wicked ore
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That makes sense

wanton fiber
rain latch
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anyone wanna collab on yet another applied math blog or something, i am an amateur

wicked ore
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Yet another?

rain latch
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yes, there are many applied math blogs out there

wicked ore
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Oh I didn’t know that

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Interesting

rain latch
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at this point, math + comp sci is practically pop sci

wicked ore
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Yeah

wicked root
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What are the current ones?

rain latch
river linden
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see I used to think that, then I matured and I set realistic goals

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so I'm thinking more in the 100M range

high rivet
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Anyone wanna see some memes that only highly intelligent people would understand?

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I just thought they're funny because I'm kinda smart

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Not to brag or anything

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Oh so is that a yes?

cold needle
ancient flame
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pain

high rivet
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Did you see it weirstross?

cold needle
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yes i saw it

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it was also not hard to deduce what the intended answer was if i have it right

ancient flame
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it requires a brain

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so therefore it is hard

neat lintel
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you are edcuated

iron copper
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Does anyone know if it's possible to make the "cited by" text in google search results clickable like in google scholar?

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I remember there's a time where they contain a hyperlink to a page where the papers are listed.

icy forge
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It's possible I suppose by changing that area to find that specific article's citation ID thing-page but I don't know if the API/interface supplies it there and then. If it does not, you'd need another call to find out the ID and then link it

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And I have no clue if this is allowed by the API/TOS

iron copper
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damn, what a shame

pale orchid
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@iron copper yes, just look up the file on google scholar

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oh oops you already wrote that, i pinged you for nothing

surreal sapphire
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tfw nazis in east germany are preparing for civil war due to what is happening in austria bleak

neat lintel
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what is happening in austria?

surreal sapphire
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mandatory vaccinations

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high ranking army officers and police are asking the people to fight back

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so talks of civil war there as well

neat lintel
surreal sapphire
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i wonder wtf is wrong with german speaking people

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that they are so much against vaccination

neat lintel
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Wait what

surreal sapphire
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the vaccination rate in germany is still 70%+

icy forge
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wow that's really really low

surreal sapphire
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getting accurate stats is hard

neat lintel
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Is it?

surreal sapphire
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yes

primal crater
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they seem to have developed a degenerate brain

surreal sapphire
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its legally not allowed to record stats officially

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so its educated guesswork

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but its pretty low in german speaking countries apparently

neat lintel
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I mean why did he consider it so low

icy forge
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What about anonymised or self-submitted surveys

icy forge
neat lintel
surreal sapphire
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surveys report higher rates than what official institute guesses

icy forge
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Loch, do you know what's the diff between MPI Bonn and MPI MiS

surreal sapphire
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i.e. my uni did an internal survey which reported 95.5% vaxxed

neat lintel
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In my country, we have a app for all this

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So it’s easy to know who is vaccinated and who isn’t

surreal sapphire
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they are different institutions

neat lintel
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Like I just realized people didn’t have to have an app on their phone to enter closed areas

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There are people that don't believe statistics because there is still a chance that statistics is not correct and its just a coincidence. Even on this server, not gonna point at people though.

primal crater
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@neat lintel monkagiga

surreal sapphire
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the mpi mis is in leipzig

primal crater
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what country r u from?

icy forge
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Is it more applied?

surreal sapphire
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we also have an app

primal crater
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@neat lintel

neat lintel
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The biggest country in the Middle East

surreal sapphire
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considering it is called mathematics in the sciences, i assume so

neat lintel
primal crater
fair mural
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venti call me stupid but is that india

surreal sapphire
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but like, lots of people got vaccinated wherever

neat lintel
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No

surreal sapphire
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and there is no official stats

neat lintel
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India is not considered part of the Middle East anyways

icy forge
surreal sapphire
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and the government isnt allowed to collect medical data for no reason

primal crater
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also not the largest country

toxic schooner
gritty charm
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India is the 7th largest country

surreal sapphire
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but lots of people against vaccination here

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and a very vocal minority

toxic schooner
neat lintel
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It’s KSA flonshed

distant vortex
surreal sapphire
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who want civil war (mainly for other reasons)

fair mural
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i thought you meant by population

toxic schooner
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funny dp

icy forge
neat lintel
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Kingdom of Saudi Arabia šŸŽŗ

gritty charm
fair mural
toxic schooner
gritty charm
surreal sapphire
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i honestly wonder what caused this

pale orchid
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i'm just gonna come out and say that, coming from a third world country, i expected europeans to behave in a more civil manner lmao

surreal sapphire
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maybe a milder first wave

pale orchid
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but people are disappointingly the same all around the world

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smh

surreal sapphire
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so lots of people still didnt have corona happen in their social circles

neat lintel
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I love being able to say my country had the best response

distant vortex
neat lintel
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Even tho there are still things don’t enjoy about it but at least they care about our safety

surreal sapphire
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or if people here are more vulnerable to fake news

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or more mistrusting of the government

icy forge
surreal sapphire
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italy and portugal were hit very bad

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and they have very high vaccination rates now

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germany had like no cases a year ago

distant vortex
honest veldt
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what the fella happened in discussion

neat lintel
vast surge
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I can't believe how close to being done my semester is, and how close we are to the year 2022 already. Jesus Christ.

toxic schooner
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ikr

icy forge
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I finished one exam today. Totally bombed it

toxic schooner
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it feels like its still 2020

toxic schooner
icy forge
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I guess my prof will find out how much of an impostor I am once he gets to marking it

vast surge
icy forge
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But /shrug

neat lintel
icy forge
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noice

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did you do well

neat lintel
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Although prob not comparable to urs lol

toxic schooner
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my exams start on the 3rd

neat lintel
icy forge
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nice

vast surge
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I only have like two exams, and both of them should be easy. I do have a presentation I'll need to do though.

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Also my course schedule next semester is looking like the best schedule of courses I've had so far.

neat lintel
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Good luck e

toxic schooner
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i am in an exam season

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i will have exams about every month or so

neat lintel
toxic schooner
toxic schooner
neat lintel
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Now we have a week break and go back to schooling again

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Worst decision ever made was this new 3 term policy for all schools

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Our summer went from 4 months to only 1

distant vortex
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4 month summer holiday??

neat lintel
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About 4 months

fair mural
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no break is 4 months

neat lintel
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Depends on Ramadan

fair mural
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4 months is what summer break felt like in elementary school

neat lintel
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Corona helped

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I think

distant vortex
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I think 4 months is too long

neat lintel
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It was too long lmao

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But still this is so different

toxic schooner
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4 months!?

neat lintel
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Going from 2 long terms to 3 terms and year long school

toxic schooner
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and here i thought phineas and ferb had a long holiday

vast surge
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My semester this semester ends early and next semester will start late so I'll be getting a weirdly super-long winter break.

vast surge
toxic schooner
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no other music during hamilton time

neat lintel
toxic schooner
vast surge
neat lintel
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Honestly everything in the past 2 years feels like a lucid dream

toxic schooner
vast surge
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Discovering something that doesn't exist (i.e. doing math)
Or giving a monkey a shower

toxic schooner
vast surge
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Oh shit I've got to run to breakfast, my commalg meeting was pushed from 1:00 to 9:00 so I don't have all the time in the world

neat lintel
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Rip

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Gl

toxic schooner
neat lintel
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Have a great day

leaden skiff
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guys, what's the worst field of math

neat lintel
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Arithmetic

leaden skiff
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that's not a field of math

neat lintel
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wdym?

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how would you call the math field that deals with expressions with numbers

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without variables

leaden skiff
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I guess... but honestly I consider arithmetic just a subset of algebra

neat lintel
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I mean, I guess

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that is true

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actually

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algebra builds on arithmetic

leaden skiff
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arithmetic feels unlike math tho

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like, it's just computation

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there's no actual discovery of general rules

neat lintel
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ik

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that is what sucks about it

leaden skiff
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or maybe that's why it's like the "first" field, cause that's the field from which all generalisations come?

surreal sapphire
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the worst field is any of characteristic 2

deep mango
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The worst field of math is commutative algebra

leaden skiff
leaden skiff
leaden skiff
deep mango
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Everyone talks about how they hate learning it and find it so boring

leaden skiff
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why's it boring?

deep mango
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Its just like

leaden skiff
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I guess it makes sense. People hate commuting

deep mango
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A toolkit for algebraic geometry

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I guess it doesnt even really count as a field of math

leaden skiff
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what do you learn in it?

surreal sapphire
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any field extension of F_2 has characteristic 2

blazing pawn
leaden skiff
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oh I thought you said order 2

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what does characteristic mean?

deep mango
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It means when you add things to themselves that many times you get 0

placid quartz
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you learn about localizations and then you keep on spamming it

deep mango
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So in characteristic 2, everything added to itself is 0

surreal sapphire
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smallest positive number p such that 1 + 1 + ... + 1 (p times) = 0

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or 0 if it doesnt exist

leaden skiff
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oh so do fields like R have characteristic infinity?

surreal sapphire
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0

deep mango
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Anyway commutative algebra is all about the theory of commutative rings and modules.

leaden skiff
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why wouldn't it be a field of math?

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is it just like learning results?

deep mango
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Its just not

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Its own thing really

surreal sapphire
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its an active area of research tho

deep mango
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It exists to serve other fields

blazing pawn
deep mango
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Is it really that active

leaden skiff
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is there anything from it I'd understand?

surreal sapphire
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but it was invented first to do algebraic number theory, now to do algebraic geometry

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not sure if active

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but if you really hate analysis and dont want anything to do with it ever

placid quartz
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it was invented for alg nt?

surreal sapphire
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you do research in comm alg

leaden skiff
placid quartz
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i would guess that alg nt people would be happy with just rings

surreal sapphire
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i guess it depends what you consider comm alg

leaden skiff
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also hey, how come rings and fields only have 2 operations, are there any structures with 3 or more?

surreal sapphire
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but alg number theorists care about dedekind rings and valuation rings

placid quartz
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right, haven't seen a lot of module stuff in alg nt yet

surreal sapphire
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you can use it a lot

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but historically people didnt i think

deep mango
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They have scalar multiplication and element to element multiplication

leaden skiff
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wait an algebra is a specific thing?

deep mango
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Those are different

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Yeah its a stupid name

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Then there are *-algebras which also have an involution / adjoint. This is like the complex conjugate in C, or the transpose in matrices.

leaden skiff
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why are there 15 different things with the word algebra tacked on

deep mango
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Cause they're all algebra

leaden skiff
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what would you say is the defining feature of something called "algebra"

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for me currently it seems to be symbolic manipulation

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but like, that's kind of all math

deep mango
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Building stuff

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Idk

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The vibe is usually building stuff

leaden skiff
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was it HS algebra or like abstract algebra that was called algebra first?

surreal sapphire
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just call them k-algebras to better distinguish them from the field of math

deep mango
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HS algebra

leaden skiff
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also, algebras can have any number of operations?

deep mango
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Abstract algebra wasnt something people did until like

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The 1800s?

surreal sapphire
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late 1800s maybe

placid quartz
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yea probably around the time galois did some cool stuff

leaden skiff
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but was HS algebra called algebra back then?

deep mango
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And probably mostly Abel

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Yeah definitely

surreal sapphire
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the first textbook was by van der waerden

deep mango
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Algebra is named after a mathematician

leaden skiff
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how did abstract algebra steal the name then?

surreal sapphire
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at least popular one

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it was called modern algebra

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because it was like algebra but better

deep mango
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You still do the same things sometimes

slender hinge
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I thought algebra is just about moving the number or variables to solve

deep mango
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Like dealing with polynomials and stuff

leaden skiff
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math needs like a notation and name reform. we need to start using tau, and stop calling things by the names of the 2nd people to discover them.

deep mango
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Yes everything needs to be named Gauss or Euler.

slender hinge
icy forge
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I prefer Poincare

leaden skiff
deep mango
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Oh yeah or Hilbert.

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I'm ok with that

slender hinge
maiden bear
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i heard that hilbert didnt even know people named certain spaces after him

leaden skiff
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like call eulers formula, the complex rotation theorem or something

deep mango
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Yeah no I also think that math things need more intuitive, evocative names

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Exactly

leaden skiff
maiden bear
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until he sat in like a project and asked what hilbert spaces are

deep mango
leaden skiff
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is that real?

maiden bear
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yeah lol

placid quartz
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i don't mind as long as the name is easy to say... Grothendieck is too hard

deep mango
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Of course people don't name things after themselves so it's not that weird.

slender hinge
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I'm not math enthusiast lol

blazing pawn
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How is it hard

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Sully

maiden bear
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we should give everything really hard german names

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to gatekeep mathematics

surreal sapphire
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its 3 syllables

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i am willing to do 2 at most

deep mango
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Groh ten deeck.

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Sort of

leaden skiff
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i assume his name isn't pronounced growth and dick but that is like the only way I can imagine pronouncing it

placid quartz
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oiler is so nice

icy forge
slender hinge
leaden skiff
maiden bear
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i hate how most people pronounce euler

surreal sapphire
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growth and dick

maiden bear
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its oiler not uler

slender hinge
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Yooler

maiden bear
icy forge
deep mango
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Uhl urr.

icy forge
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Apparently it's not even hilbert it's Hilberrrrrrr

deep mango
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Gaubeta.

placid quartz
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is it groh ten deeck or groh then deeck?

icy forge
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Wait German names

surreal sapphire
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it definitely is hilbert

maiden bear
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hilbert

surreal sapphire
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with a pronounced t

maiden bear
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is hilbert

deep mango
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It's kind of a mix det

maiden bear
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absolutely

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yes

leaden skiff
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also calculus is a terrible name

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it literally just means calculation no?

deep mango
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The t is a bit weak

maiden bear
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calcoholics makes for a gread team name

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tho

placid quartz
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like "th" in thought?

icy forge
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Wiki IPA [ˈdaːvɪt ˈhɪlbɐt]

fair mural
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the word calculus has something to do with pebbles i think

leaden skiff
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yeah it comes from calc

maiden bear
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hilbert is definitely pronounced with the t

leaden skiff
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and chalk

surreal sapphire
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you can do grothendieck kinda whatever

deep mango
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Hill burr.

leaden skiff
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something something using pebbles to count

fair mural
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who pronounces hilbert as hilber

surreal sapphire
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there is a german and a french pronounciation (and english i guess)

deep mango
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Hilbert wilbur. Perfect rhyme

leaden skiff
icy forge
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Where my Polish representation at

maiden bear
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well the french love just not pronouncing shit

icy forge
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I can't even spell them right except Banach

maiden bear
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even though its right there

deep mango
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I felt like such an idiot saying Fourier when I was at the french summer school

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I definitely said both rs usually

leaden skiff
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four-ee-yay

deep mango
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Or at least the middle one

maiden bear
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one of our profs name is Fourier

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he's a distant relative

slender hinge
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Four rear

deep mango
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It more like foo-ee-ay than four-ee-ay

blazing pawn
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Its just a french r...

leaden skiff
deep mango
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So true moth

primal crater
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fourier overrated hmmCat

deep mango
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It doesnt make it less hard to say

leaden skiff
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"it's just a French r"
the French r:

blazing pawn
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No im saying foueeay isnt really any more accurate

deep mango
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Take that up with all the french people at the summer school

blazing pawn
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There is a syllable there

pale orchid
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the first r is there though

blazing pawn
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It just doesnt exist in english

icy forge
deep mango
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Ok yeah its a little mouth gurgle noise

blazing pawn
placid quartz
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i see

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i always said it more like grow thin deeck

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but e instead of i

surreal sapphire
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i always wonder whether i should pronounce german names correctly when talking english

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or do the fake english pronounciation

blazing pawn
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Same

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Well

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Replace german with french

pale orchid
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it's worse when neither of them is your native language

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me thinking to myself in spanish "how do i butcher the name?"

leaden skiff
surreal sapphire
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i really dont care what people say as long as i understand them

pale orchid
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you set the bar too high already

blazing pawn
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I highly doubt grothendieck of all people would be a stickler for accurate german pronunciation

surreal sapphire
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also re algebra

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in german algebra is pronounced different than algebra

distant vortex
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tfw you can't say cauchy, so you only work in complete spaces.

surreal sapphire
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i am not 100% convinced grothendieck even is a german name

leaden skiff
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it's a sh sound right

pale orchid
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that moment when you have to say cauchy-riemann and offend everyone at the same time

blazing pawn
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It is loch

surreal sapphire
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it sounds dutch

leaden skiff
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yall are lucky there aren't many famous Indian mathematicians

blazing pawn
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Its from plattdeutsch or whatever its called

surreal sapphire
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ah ok

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so dutch basically

pale orchid
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lol

blazing pawn
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Saur trie

surreal sapphire
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have to figure out what it means

light needle
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i can only think of like

fair mural
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@leaden skiff ramanujan moment

light needle
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ramanujan or harish chandrqa

pale orchid
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bhattacharya bounds

light needle
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off the top of my head

leaden skiff
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idk who chandra or bhattcharya are tbh

surreal sapphire
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bhargava is indian

leaden skiff
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who are these people?

primal crater
surreal sapphire
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bhargava won the fields medal for number theory stuff

placid quartz
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Manjul Bhargava did some cool elliptic curve thing right

toxic schooner
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yus

pale orchid
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oh, mahalanobis as well

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that one has resurged lately cuz of ML shenanigans

icy forge
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Sadge no one mentioned Rao

pale orchid
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which rao

pale orchid
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oh yes, i work with that almost every day

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idk if he's the same from the khatri-rao product

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it seems so

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and i guess khatri also counts

icy forge
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I think mathematicians would know more about Seshadri

bronze pelican
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Narasimham and Seshadri are known for the Narasimham-Seshadri theorem

placid quartz
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i've heard about Seshadri constant from other people

leaden skiff
placid quartz
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invariant something something line bundle something something algebraic geometry

toxic schooner
pale orchid
toxic schooner
placid quartz
leaden skiff
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hey @pale orchid how far into education are you?

pale orchid
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wrapping up 2nd year of phd

leaden skiff
#

how many years of math has it been

pale orchid
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in engineering though, so like 2nd year math undergrad lol

leaden skiff
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you're an engineer?

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this whole time???

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I thought we were friends

toxic schooner
#

U didnt know?

icy forge
pale orchid
leaden skiff
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also how many years of education will you have taken finally?

pale orchid
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bsc was 5 years in my home country, so

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5 + 2 of masters + 2 of phd so far. the phd will be 4~6 years

surreal sapphire
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so too many

icy forge
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Anyway I'm like also old, but I'm not even an engineer smugsmug so consider me a 1st year math undergrad

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Damn, you have a masters

toxic schooner
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im -1 years of undergrad rn catThin4K

leaden skiff
placid quartz
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my college does 3 years of bsc, and i'm done with 2.5 and i'm scared

icy forge
pale orchid
#

like 13?

leaden skiff
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damn

pale orchid
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11~13

icy forge
surreal sapphire
#

edd you probably also went to normal school

toxic schooner
leaden skiff
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you get paid for a PhD tho right?

icy forge
pale orchid
#

what's a "normal school"?

surreal sapphire
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3 years bsc + 2 years masters is normal

pale orchid
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and yes, i get paid by the uni

icy forge
#

Locally 3yr Bsc is accelerated

surreal sapphire
#

in bologna world

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alternatively 4 + 1

icy forge
#

oh

toxic schooner
pale orchid
#

right, so in europe, a bsc means nothing

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cuz 3 years undergrad is lol

surreal sapphire
#

its 300 ECTS total

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180 + 120 bsc/msc is "normal" i think

pale orchid
#

by bologna standards, i was already a grad student before starting my masters

surreal sapphire
#

but unis can vary a bit

pale orchid
#

ECTs-wise

leaden skiff
#

what's the difference between bachelors and masters.

surreal sapphire
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the bachelor comes first

pale orchid
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depending on the structure, "nothing" or "everything"

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there are some research-oriented ones where you show up and just... do research

icy forge
surreal sapphire
#

well, my math masters has no classes i have to take

pale orchid
#

most are like bachelors tho

surreal sapphire
#

its mostly wtv

icy forge
surreal sapphire
#

math bachelor is a bit more restrictive

leaden skiff
#

also hey edd how educated do you feel

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like how well do you understand engineering or math as a whole

surreal sapphire
#

and a master thesis takes like 6 months

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a bachelor thesis like 6 weeks

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so thats a big difference

leaden skiff
#

what abt a PhD thesis

surreal sapphire
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like 6 years

pale orchid
#

tbh i am left with the feeling that i know nothing

icy forge
pale orchid
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i often run into problems because i know i can't solve/handle stuff i would like to

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i also often regret doing engineering instead of maths, but it wasn't an option cuz i did my bsc in my home country

leaden skiff
#

what's your plan after PhD?

pale orchid
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but i can't say if it would be any different if i had. i'm not particularly good at math

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still not sure if post doc or going to industry

leaden skiff
#

wait what's post doc?

surreal sapphire
#

frührente

pale orchid
#

i'm currently hired at a company and by the uni

pale orchid
icy forge
pale orchid
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i like it and i'm bad at it

leaden skiff
#

but does math like you is the question.

icy forge
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If you can do linear algebra it's all good tbh

pale orchid
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a lot of the problems i've dealt with so far have boiled down to knowing linalg, knowing how to code, and having someone throw money at the problem (better cpus and gpus and stuff)

leaden skiff
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is it interesting?

pale orchid
#

well

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the application i'm working on is boring as hell

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but the techniques are easily transferable

icy forge
#

control theory stuff?

pale orchid
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i work with ultrasound stuff rn, but i've also used it on the side for computer vision (stereo vision), terahertz imaging, optics/ray tracing

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and some estimation performance bounds in those settings

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ah, also radar and the classic "direction of arrival" problems

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idk, it's mostly undergrad stats and linalg lol

icy forge
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There's good undergrad stats and bad undergrad stats

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And honestly I feel like there are really important things in stats I myself don't know sad

winged oxide
#

Hello everybody. I am Rebecca, I am 15.5 years old. I live in Europe but might move to the USA in a couple years. That would mean I'd have to pick a University there. I want to study Mathematics and/or Medicine. I am not sure which University works better for Mathematics. I am quite indecisive between MIT and Stanford. I've sent MIT an e-mail last year and they seemed nice with their response. I have not been in contact with Stanford yet. Can anybody advise which one would be the best one for Mathematics? Thanks in advice for your eventual reply.

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I also documented myself and found that Stanford is slightly more selective, with the percentage of applicants being admitted is around 1% lower than MIT, where the percentage is around 5-6%.

deep mango
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Both schools are extremely good for math, and both are extremely difficult get into.

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If you did have the choice, you would want to decide based on other factors besides the quality of the math program - they're going to be essentially equal in that regard.

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E.g. MIT can be stuffy about letting people skip the early courses like calculus if you've done those (though they do have honors classes in those subjects)

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Another huge factor here is the difference in setting. MIT is in Cambridge, a city with close access to other schools like Harvard, Boston University, etc. That can be nice because oftentimes you can cross-enroll in classes at different schools in the area, and you'll have a broader network of people to meet and learn from. Meanwhile Stanford is kind of isolated. It's not too far from UC Berkeley which is the other great school in the area, but it's still not easily accessible. Stanford isn't going to offer much of a city life, you are somewhat close to San Francisco but not that close. At the same time, Stanford is right near silicon valley, so if you did end up interested in the computer world there are lots and lots of opportunities there.

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In general a lot of the conventionally top schools are excellent for math. But you'll also be able to take advantage of a ton of opportunities even if you don't go to one of the very top schools. What's more important than the ranking is how well you think you can thrive and be productive in the environment and community of the school.

crystal stone
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To echo what Ryc has said: I think Stanford's program is more flexible and relaxed for the undergraduate program. It might be more affordable to live in the boston area than it is to live in Palo Alto, being near silicon valley tends to drive up housing costs. Ultimately if you're admitted to both there is no wrong choice here, maybe slightly more optimal based on your learning style and environment. Another big difference is do you prefer Quarter or Semester? Quarter system tends to move pretty quick whereas in semester you get more time to relax

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Finally, I know that MIT has a deadweek (or at least used to) before finals, but I haven't heard the same thing about Stanford

somber parcel
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I prefer save money option. Top schools are not better than average schools by much. Students in America are too excited about jumping into unreasonable amounts of debt.

crystal stone
velvet dagger
deep mango
pale orchid
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there's a brief description on wikipedia

neat lintel
rough bison
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Could anyone help me out real quick? I have a exam practice problem that I found on chegg but dont own it. Could someone msg me that owns chegg

mortal igloo
#

Is chegg actually more reliable than getting help here?

rough bison
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Well it's just the exact problem is all, I re-scheuled my exam for today and I was going over related rates and wanted to double check im doing them correctly

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I'll probably leave my house within the hour so going through the process of posting, waiting for reposnse is not the best

distant vortex
#

Send your solution in an appropriate channel and someone may check it for you

rough bison
#

all good i think i have it figured out for now

sick burrow
gloomy marten
#

Hello gamers

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this seems inactive

crystal stone
neat lintel
gloomy marten
#

and on time

neat lintel
#

yes, what if the game is called htam backwards?

gloomy marten
#

Then I'm on level 13

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I started level 1 when I was 6

dire mulch
#

it funny I make 3D graphics engine(not really an engine probably call it a framework for games) but I don't play games. The only game I ever took seriously was swtor/pubg mobile.

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but that was when I was 14 or so.

vast surge
#

Is there such a thing as a "winter break REU"? Or, otherwise, is there any way I could both do something mathematical and interact with people in-person over the winter break? I was originally planning on just reading a textbook by myself this upcoming winter break, but I almost had a panic-attack earlier today over the fact that I'll be incredibly isolated again over the three-day Thanksgiving break.

vast surge
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Yeah, I have a friend that I want to rope into studying complex analysis with me. The issue is that it won't really be super in-person, because she'll be going home and I'll be stuck on campus. It can't be an official reading course for credit, though, because all the professors in my department are busy over the winter break.

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Typically the international students are, but most of the ones I'm close with have been stuck on campus for the past few winter/summer breaks and are trying their hardest to go elsewhere this winter.

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I go to a mostly undergrad institution, unfortunately, so any grad students I meet with would have to be at a different school.

vast surge
#

Yeah. Without an official program, I'll probably just stay on campus, drink a bunch of alcohol and self-study complex analysis either by myself, in this server or with the friend I mentioned if I can get her to join me (though it would be virtual either way)

keen drift
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why so dark out

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side

neat lintel
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hi

keen drift
#

hi

snow lintel
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hi

runic pike
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hi

placid quartz
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hi

fair mural
#

hi

toxic schooner
#

hi

vast surge
#

hi

neat lintel
#

Can I ask about statistics, like normal distribution subject in this server?

fair mural
#

yes

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anything related to math

neat lintel
#

Nice

leaden skiff
neat lintel
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I thought that statistics doesn't relate much with mathematics.

leaden skiff
#

why would you think that?

neat lintel
neat lintel
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When I do statistics, I have a lot of trouble with understanding the problem, what the question actually is.

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But the theory is pretty much understandable for me, not for all parts unfortunatly.

leaden skiff
#

understanding the question is a big part of probability and stats

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very often it's the only nontrivial part

neat lintel
#

When I think about statistic, I think more of real life situations, then mathematics.

leaden skiff
#

yeah Stats is an outlier in how practical it is

neat lintel
#

Sorry, what is the word non trivial?
Does it mean "important" or not?

leaden skiff
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trivial means like, so simple it's not even worth mentioning usually

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like very often 0 or the empty set will be considered trivial solutions to problems

fair mural
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trivial is contextually obvious

leaden skiff
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cause it's like "duh" obviously they'd be solutions

fair mural
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not obvious to everyone i mean, but if you know about the field you’re talking about, it’s obvious

ancient flame
#

I hate the word trivial

leaden skiff
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why?

fair mural
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like d/dx (1) is trivial to people that know calculus, but to people that don’t know calculus, they have no clue what it means

ancient flame
#

because it implies that it should be obvious

neat lintel
#

So trivial = obvious

ancient flame
#

and it's like bruh

surreal sapphire
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nontrivial means "hard" or "requires thought"

leaden skiff
#

I mean, it's usually used in contexts where it should be

ancient flame
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pretty much

leaden skiff
#

and usually after you understand why it's trivial it becomes trivial

surreal sapphire
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sometimes trivial is used as a technical term, sometimes its used by people to mean "easy"

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you should not do the latter

leaden skiff
#

sometimes trivial has a very specific meaning yes

ancient flame
#

yeah

surreal sapphire
#

like, some author of a paper telling me that a proof is trivial is dumb

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it gives me now new information

leaden skiff
surreal sapphire
#

"trivial solutions" is a technical term

ancient flame
#

to me it just makes me think that the author is some bragadocious dude

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idk

surreal sapphire
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i use the term "nontrivial" mostly tongue-in-cheeck KEK

ancient flame
#

like "it's obvious to me so it should be obvious to you"

neat lintel
#

Bragadocious šŸ˜†

surreal sapphire
#

like, its just a way to say that its hard

leaden skiff
#

if i said something like "in calculus, the actual calculus is often trivial compared to the algebra" using trivial for a specific problem seems dumb tho yeah

ancient flame
#

lol

leaden skiff
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I only use it when I'm comparing things

surreal sapphire
#

i would just use easy, but its fine

fair mural
#

if by trivial you mean obvious or easy, you should just use obvious or easy

neat lintel
#

My statistic book is in language dutch.

leaden skiff
#

I wouldn't be like, telling a kid "oh yeah this problems trivial you imbecile"

surreal sapphire
#

most often its used as "follows directly from the definition"

fair mural
#

whatever tone you were going for there you definitely succeeded at it lol

surreal sapphire
#

but then i just say that

neat lintel
#

When someone is posting memes:
social credits get lower.

When you help someone:
Social credits get higher

ancient flame
#

what if you help someone by posting memes

neat lintel
#

You will gain a complex number on your social credits.

fair mural
#

my social credit is now imaginary

steel sorrel
#

My social credit is in the negatives

neat lintel
#

is it weird to listen to a loud twitch streams and work on calculus at the same time?

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I do that

fair mural
#

no

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whatever works for you

neat lintel
#

If I work in silence, I get distracted a lot

fair mural
#

same, i can’t do stuff in silence

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i always need the tv on

neat lintel
#

to small movements and and sounds in the distance.

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usually, I work with music that really slaps, so I keep working at high tempo

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now I lack of music, so I use streams, to concentrate on my work

fair mural
#

@neat lintel what exactly do you mean that you lack of music

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you’re tired of the songs you know?

neat lintel
#

yes, I don't find new music on youtube

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I like music

neat lintel
#

music voice channel catThink

fair mural
#

soundcloud gives pretty good recommendations

neat lintel
#

thank you!!!!!!!
im going to listen to Camelia - Burning Aquamarine xd

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omg I feel so active

gloomy marten
#

because if not you'd have to say something like:
"the zeros of the riemann zeta function that aren't even integers" instead of "the non-trivial zeros of the riemann zeta fucntion"

fringe needle
#

Today he said there was nothing extraordinary about analysis 1, that it was all simple common sense

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As we were proving Taylor’s theorem

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And in a sense I guess he’s right

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But it makes struggling to do the exercise series far more demotivating lmao

surreal sapphire
#

horrible pedagogy

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imagine flexing on undergrads as a prof

fringe needle
#

Honestly though

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It’s my fav teacher

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He strangely has a very good pedagogy

neat lintel
#

So i made a calculation and the result was 4!
What was the result

surreal sapphire
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well, i can say that i think that is bad

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but its a small part of the whole teaching thing

fringe needle
surreal sapphire
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ye ok, maybe its just a throwaway comment

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its still not great imo

fringe needle
#

But the rest of the time he gives a lot of intuition on a lot of stuff and makes plenty of mistakes when giving proofs

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I cannot stress how good it is for a teacher to make mistakes in proofs

deep mango
surreal sapphire
#

sometimes

deep mango
#

Some people just say things thoughtlessly

surreal sapphire
#

my elementary nt prof made mistakes a lot

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and then he went back with red chalk and we fixed it together

deep mango
#

Not everyone is trying to get one over on random undergrads

surreal sapphire
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but sometimes we didnt manage

deep mango
#

The prof probably just forgets that it was hard

fringe needle
#

He definitely does not do them on purpose but it’s great it makes the whole lesson human

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Instead of just having someone read from lecture notes and copy stuff down

deep mango
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Idk if ultra is trolling but I do that too and when I have said I do that people here have flipped their shit sully

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Well like your prof its not intentional

fringe needle
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That’s cause we don’t like you ryc

deep mango
#

More like, i am purposely careless

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I know I meant other people

surreal sapphire
#

me when im lecturing and do literally no preparing at all which leads to mistakes but students love it

deep mango
#

Being careless is how you make mistakes come up naturally so that people dont peg you for this

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Sometimes I do them placed on purpose but that's pretty rare compared to it just being "whoops, I forgot about this, that's a really important thing to remember"

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It's not like the mistakes im making are ones that are unusual to make for a student

leaden skiff
#

who's gonna notice?

cold needle
#

students

leaden skiff
#

are they gonna come up with some kinda conspiracy about how you're fucking up intentionally

cold needle
#

i am go to notices

deep mango
#

But idk

surreal sapphire
#

in my very first talk i made a mistake in the last proof

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as in it did not work at all with the techniques

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nobody noticed

distant vortex
surreal sapphire
#

i noticed in the bus to the talk

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and i had no idea wtf to do

deep mango
#

Imo the best way to make yourself look human to students is to actually be human

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And not to like

surreal sapphire
#

what if you are not human

leaden torrent
#

damn i came to class dressed up as a dog

deep mango
#

Ok I mean you can pretend to be human too

leaden skiff
#

do you need to be human?

fringe needle
#

This is why zuckerberg is not a math teacher

leaden skiff
#

I mean like, making mistakes seems good cause it can make the class more engaging and also show the class what some common mistakes are

deep mango
# leaden skiff do you need to be human?

I connected the best with my profs who showed a certain degree of vulnerability and imperfection and those are the people who wrote my recs, who I did research with, etc

leaden skiff
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but like seeming human seems unnecessary to me

leaden torrent
#

nah miss me with that furry shit

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i was a proper dog

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came in on all 4s

deep mango
#

Meanwhile e.g. Rieffel is perfect in every way and never makes a mistake, but I never connected to him super closely over 1.5 years of classes

fringe needle
#

I mean if the teacher is t human you may as well learn from the internet

leaden torrent
#

i COMMIT

fringe needle
#

If they can’t add that personal touch

deep mango
#

Because there was never any chance of there being a back and forth

leaden skiff
#

who's rieffel?

deep mango
#

Operator algebras prof at berkeley

cold needle
#

i am dress like a kat

deep mango
#

"quantum physicist"

cold needle
#

cat mario

maiden lily
#

@cold needle

cold needle
#

meow meow

leaden torrent
#

yes lmao

leaden skiff
#

also why are the mods the ones shit posting here

cold needle
#

why is it garlic on head

leaden torrent
#

hes a cyborg

maiden lily
#

This is not shitpost this is wholesome post

deep mango
#

He's not household name terence tao famous but he's famous in the broad field he is part of

leaden skiff
#

he's math famous

surreal sapphire
#

mods are allowed to shitpost

leaden skiff
#

he has become a name that has been said in this household

surreal sapphire
#

good nights

cold needle
#

rifle

leaden torrent
#

i feel like his name would be known to most mathematicians, not just C* memers

leaden skiff
deep mango
#

*most responsible mathematicians

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I definitely would not know of rieffel if I didnt go to berk and also didnt have a C* arc

leaden skiff
#

what is C*

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is this a programming language?

leaden torrent
serene parrot
#

jk

leaden skiff
#

OK I'm actually confused now

serene parrot
#

wait for the ryc bomb

deep mango
#

A C* algebra is a kind of mathematical object. Examples would be the set of nxn matrices, or the set of continuous functions on [0, 1].

leaden torrent
#

read the name of the sticker banach_alg_hermitian_involution

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tells you all you need to know

leaden skiff
deep mango
#

They're really important in quantum physics (if you know for example the uncertainty principle, it comes from broad properties of quantum mechanics that are realized through C* algebras)

leaden torrent
#

theyre also important in math

deep mango
#

In fact, it comes from "noncommutativity", the fact that for two matrices A and B, AB is not always the same as BA.

leaden skiff
#

I thought you were sleeping

leaden torrent
#

morita equivalence is the best invention of the 20th century

sick burrow
#

Or wait does gomez even exist anymore

deep mango
#

please

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just let the explanation be simple and 0.2% inaccurate

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it's pedagogical

serene parrot
leaden torrent
#

wtf pedagogy value does this have

leaden skiff
#

I already don't understand the wrong answer, I don't think the right answer will do much better

leaden torrent
#

what student is gonna intuitively fill in the blanks

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between noncommutativity and uncertainty

deep mango
#

Its pop pedagogical

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The point is not to actually understand it

leaden skiff
#

it's because you're not sure if AB = BA right?

light needle
#

all i remember from my quantum 101 class years ago is like, the uncertainty product has a commutator and an anticommutator term in it

deep mango
#

It's to have a chance at making wrong connections that still approximate the right ones

deep mango
leaden skiff
#

tbh like if in 5-10 years I learn about the uncertainty principle having the idea of commutativity in my head might be helpful

leaden torrent
#

why isnt there a bleak version of sotrue yet

leaden skiff
#

we need an unbleak

cold needle
#

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle is a trivial fact of fourier analysis

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clearly

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I am go to bleaks.

light needle
#

ultra is not actually goes to sleep, ultra is return in 5 minutes to chat

leaden skiff
#

bet

deep mango
#

You're in the dream still ultra. Wake up

sick burrow
#

Fun fact: you can summon Ultra anytime by saying "Godel" 3 times in a mirror

leaden skiff
#

you're in a coma, we miss you... please wake up

leaden skiff
sick burrow
#

No that's Banach-Tarski

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Well partially at least

deep mango
#

I am godel sleeps.

surreal sapphire
#

wish ultra was here to see this

light needle
#

he would explode

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get it, explosion

surreal sapphire
light needle
#

In classical logic, intuitionistic logic and similar logical systems, the principle of explosion (Latin: ex falso [sequitur] quodlibet, 'from falsehood, anything [follows]'; or ex contradictione [sequitur] quodlibet, 'from contradiction, anything [follows]'), or the principle of Pseudo-Scotus, is the law according to which any statement can be p...

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smh

surreal sapphire
#

i did get it

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i just thought its bad

light needle
#

then why didnt u laugh

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smhsmh

sick burrow
#

You cut up Collatz and reassemble it into 2 copies of the original conjecture. We haven't proved it yet, so by the contropositive of Completeness, we conclude it can't be proven. Thus by Incompleteness we conclude its independent. Finally since we have two copies of the theorem and its independent we conclude that one must be true and one must be false by LEM.

leaden torrent
#

most interesting consequences of first incompleteness:

  • the halting problem
  • second incompleteness
  • unsolvability of hilberts 10th
  • your thesis is shit
leaden skiff
#

2nd incompleteness?

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there's another one???

sick burrow
#

lmao

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Even crank me of 3 years ago knew that

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(As supposed to crank me of today)

leaden skiff
#

well what is it hmmCat

sick burrow
#

1st incompleteness is there will be statements independent of any "nice" formal system. 2nd is a nice formal system can't prove itself consistent.

leaden torrent
#

you cant prove the consistency of a system (satisfying sufficient hypotheses) within that system

sick burrow
#

iirc

leaden torrent
#

so zfc cant prove con(zfc)

sick burrow
#

Don't flame me Nami

leaden torrent
#

zfc + con(zfc) cant prove con(zfc + con(zfc))

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[unless its inconsistent]

leaden skiff
#

oh I didn't know that was the 2nd incompleteness theorem

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it's more like the inconsistence theorem tbh

leaden torrent
#

its just what you get when you prove 1st incompleteness "internally" within a system

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rather than in a meta sense

leaden skiff
#

I guess yeah, that kinda makes sense

sick burrow
#

3rd incompleteness is any formal system (of education) can't demonstrate (to its students) what Godel's theorem means to a sufficient degree to avoid cranks

leaden skiff
#

if you could prove a system was consistent within itself then incompleteness wouldn't be true

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4th incompleteness theorem is that there will never be enough bleak emotes

vivid halo
#

If the problem of finding zeros of Riemann zeta off the critical line is undecidable then RH is true

neat lintel
#

if RH is independent of ZFC then there is a model of ZFC where RH is false

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and one where it is true

neat lintel
vivid halo
#

I mean computably undecidable here

neat lintel
neat lintel
#

gn

steel sorrel
#

Gm

ancient flame
#

ga

neat lintel
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yyyyy

velvet dagger
bronze pelican
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This guys thumbnails and videos are obnoxious

deep mango
fair mural
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don’t try to understand how something works, just memorize it lol

deep mango
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Stop trying to do this instead.

fair mural
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what could go wrong

crystal stone
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It can work, there's no need to understand everything you come across

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Of course there's a base line you need to understand, but if that eludes you, there's nothing wrong with memorizing things

deep mango
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I agree with that usually

crystal stone
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This guy is annoying though

deep mango
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But I don't think the advice looks like "stop trying to understand math"

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I think it looks like "try to understand it, but if it's not working out here's a backup plan"

crystal stone
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Yeah, I think in general it's a good strategy

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I learned proof based mathematics from the get go

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And I remember having to memorize quite a bit because the prof just moved so fast

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After about a year and a half of him, I learned how to do it without memorizing

deep mango
rancid meadow
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yeah man

jovial ember
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They didn’t pull nearly that many views a year ago

fair mural
jovial ember
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You should edit your about me

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To also include Chmonkey

deep mango
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"I love math and music and I hate Chmonkey"

jovial ember
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:(

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No!

fair mural
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i love math and music and i love chmonkey

deep mango
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chmonkey why do you have custard in your bio...

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gross

jovial ember
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šŸ® custard

fair mural
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ā€œMath PhD student in analysis and PDEs. He/Him. Also I hate Chmonkey.ā€

jovial ember
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This is why it’s my about me

rancid meadow
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smoking that benjamin reichwald pack

jovial ember
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@fair mural you didn’t edit your about me

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I can’t sponsor you

fair mural
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fair

deep mango
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Such a needy monkey.

velvet dagger
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Custard is good

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Because it's actually a synonym for ice cream apparently

ancient flame
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custard = cum mustard

fair mural
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bad gmod

deep mango
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chmustard

ancient flame
gentle bay
ancient flame
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lol

neat lintel
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Chmustard

jovial ember
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Chmustard

mint patio
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could any enterprising nerds eli5 what a functor is

toxic schooner
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Chmustard

untold sapphire
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yeah

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what's up

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what kind of context are we talking about here feather

mint patio
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none LMAO I’ve just heard it described as a more abstract version of a function? or smth like that

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so curious

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looks like cat theory stuff