serious-discussion

[wide sinew]

but I don't know if that would work

[astral marsh]

@cold needle im testing out my mic

send a one to two line script for me to read

[cold needle]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

[astral marsh]

it was a cheap mic as far as standalone mics go

on the other hand i had previously only used gaming headset mics

so

anything would have been an upgrade

[cold needle]

hmm i see

[narrow rock]

[astral marsh]

@narrow rock @cold needle and then this is my best attempt at (entirely physical, no digital post-processing) voice feminization

basically all i have changed is pitch + resonance + larynx height

its difficult

[narrow rock]

[deep mango]

[sharp mulch]

@devout nacelle https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtyDE1AdTYDc9sNqM3siV0g/featured

[devout nacelle]

Thanks!

@distant vortex You might be interested too

@supple flame You too

[sharp mulch]

Lots of immigrants

[bold ferry]

i read that as ' Hello everyone, Itss Ty here I'm a cotangent creater..'

[sharp mulch]

[sleek wing]

brain worms

[deep mango]

i'm being kicked out of discussion

[sleek wing]

too much "trolling" as per usual

[deep mango]

yeah

apparently their very serious conversation is being interrupted

[sharp mulch]

ryc in shambles

[cold needle]

ryc is tteru

[deep mango]

[sleek wing]

oh that's why it's called a cone

because it's a triiiiannngllleeeeeeee

[deep mango]

yes, and if it's upside down, guess what it's called?

[cold needle]

tornado

[sleek wing]

nabla

[deep mango]

a ne.

[distant vortex]

Thanks!

[sleek wing]

mfs will actually name something a "co-cone" and be expected to be taken seriously

[deep mango]

it's a ne

[torn willow]

It's THE ne

[ancient flame]

is knowledge in multivariable calculus enough to learn tensor calculus?

[sharp mulch]

Do you know linear algebra?

[sleek wing]

^

I'd assume you know a least a bit for multivar but you need to be really comfortable with linear algebra for tensor calc

[ancient flame]

okay thanks

how much is really comfortable

[deep mango]

i fucking hate this

mniip is totally right

and i can't speak there

or i will get btfod

[ancient flame]

bc I know how to do things but im not a big fan of linear algebra

[sharp mulch]

You need to be very good at it

Tensors are just very linear things

[torn willow]

What's wrong with LA

[ancient flame]

I love multivar calc but linear algebra, not so much

[sleek wing]

🤨 multivar calc is calc in vector spaces so that doesn't add up

anyway

[sharp mulch]

Yeah linear algebra is essential

Even to multi

Like the Jacobian of a change of variables

[deep mango]

it becomes a lot more obvious why linear algebra is essential in tensor calc though

like

[sleek wing]

speaking from experience I only learnt tensor calc in third year of uni after being an algebra stan so take that as you will

[deep mango]

everything feels like linear algebra

more so than calculus

[sharp mulch]

Locally a change of variables is linear or something so you take the Jacobian and then the determinant to see how volumes are affected

Why does the determinant do this?

Linear algebra

[sleek wing]

yeah and that's just multivar, I think

[sharp mulch]

Yes

[deep mango]

@inner finch they're gonna bully you out of discussion

don't even bother

[devout nacelle]

[inner finch]

[sleek wing]

I will start a militant campaign for your freedom ryc

[devout nacelle]

Salty ryc moment

[inner finch]

i dont get bullied 😎

[devout nacelle]

gettin gbullied

[deep mango]

i don't get bullied either

[cold needle]

i am a bully

[toxic schooner]

metal is a known troll

[inner finch]

stfu

[bronze pelican]

I bully math competition people

[sleek wing]

as you should ;)

[fringe needle]

Go bully on the Olympiad server

[devout nacelle]

Honorable on math server becomes Unhonorable on olympiad server 😌

[inner finch]

honorable on math server was never honorable.

[deep mango]

dishonorable role when

[bronze pelican]

Dishonorable role color should be red

[neat lintel]

imagine honorable math server getting banned from olympiad server

[latent forge]

I shall be first one to get dishonorable.

[deep mango]

i'll request it before it's even publicly announced

[inner finch]

I want it

[brave hollow]

colors 🤮

[vivid halo]

Dishonorable role for me and me only

[deep mango]

no

[fringe needle]

I want dishonorable

[deep mango]

you dont deserve it

[fringe needle]

Oh damn I can’t apply I’m not warned anymore

[deep mango]

wait i forgot it's supposed to be bad

[sharp mulch]

[latent forge]

I am dishonorable. I once cheated

[deep mango]

[latent forge]

On your mother

[sharp mulch]

leon can have dishonorable for committing war crimes

[deep mango]

Phew

I feel like we have a lot of strong contenders for this role

[latent forge]

Leon the professional?

[sharp mulch]

baratoth can have dishonorable by equivalence

[deep mango]

Not equality though

[sharp mulch]

The HoTT kind

morningstar can have dishonorable by equivalence

[vivid halo]

Lmao dishonorable role for the 8 Baratoth alts

[sharp mulch]

The category kind

But remember equivalence isn't equivalence so they aren't the same person

They are only equivalent

[fringe needle]

Lmao

[deep mango]

WHY THE HELL DO YOU DO ALG TOP

what food are you eating @inner finch

[inner finch]

i have no idea

tastes good tho

mom made it

[deep mango]

[cold needle]

good morning

[inner finch]

bad night

[cold needle]

rip u

[deep mango]

Only barely morning, metal.

[cold needle]

yes

[nimble shuttle]

I believe in PST supremacy

[cold needle]

i was up last night being sad and programming something

[inner finch]

karachi time moment

[sharp mulch]

Yes

Pacific time

You didn't need to say that you were being sad

That's included under programming something by default

[inner finch]

so true

[cold needle]

today is my birthday but i forgot to buy new clothes (L)

i also forgot to plan something with my friends

[south igloo]

Happy birthday mate

[inner finch]

🧠

my bday is in 2 days

[cold needle]

ty

oh wow

[inner finch]

hapi bday

[cold needle]

ty ty

[inner finch]

[cold needle]

july gang is growing

[devout nacelle]

Happy birthday Metal!

[cold needle]

tyy ❤️

[devout nacelle]

Is that a good thing

[cold needle]

[devout nacelle]

Enjoy your day though!

[cold needle]

will do !

[sharp mulch]

Is buying clothes on your birthday a common thing

[nimble shuttle]

hbd meatl

meatl

metal

third time's the charm

[vivid halo]

Happy birthday

[cold needle]

my parents and grandparents tell me to do it i think its a south indian/hindu thing?

ty friends 😌

[south igloo]

I think it's common across India

[inner finch]

dont enjoy your birthday.

enjoy mine 2 days later

[cold needle]

ohh i see ok

[devout nacelle]

Yeah

I wish it wasn't

[inner finch]

my parents say you should fast on your birthday

[devout nacelle]

[cold needle]

oh my

[inner finch]

and celebrating it is haram

[devout nacelle]

Visit temple first thing in the morning

[inner finch]

They have no issue with eating shit at my cousins house at their bday tho

[south igloo]

Bruh

[cold needle]

lmaooooo

[inner finch]

or singing happy bday or whatever

[cold needle]

i went to temple a few days ago for my bday ajajajfjd

pain

[inner finch]

lmao literal pain

[devout nacelle]

Indeed

And then you have to celebrate birthday

When you don't want to

[south igloo]

I just like to sleep extra hours

The ultimate celebration

[inner finch]

im going to pretend idk its my bday and ask my parents for a pizza or sth

[devout nacelle]

My 18th birthday was a coincidental banger

19 was just another day

[cold needle]

also calling your whole family and reading through the whatsapp the next day

[devout nacelle]

LMAO

[cold needle]

gkdjsjcjeZkf

[devout nacelle]

Responding to a gazillion calls

[south igloo]

And the constant calls

[devout nacelle]

Thank you, fake laugh, how are you, pass on the phone to mom

[inner finch]

bro just take out ur sim

[devout nacelle]

Until last birthday I didn't even have a phone

These were calls being shoved by mom

[inner finch]

pretend to sleep

run away

[devout nacelle]

[south igloo]

That will give you a rain of slippers to wake up

[inner finch]

barish e chappal

chappal ke ghata wow bro

[modest rune]

im so excited for my third 21st birthday

[inner finch]

burq bhi horhi hai

[cold needle]

o wow its also bernoulli zermelo and airy ‘s bday

max what

[modest rune]

i refuse to turn 21 in quarantine

[cold needle]

oh true

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

[cold needle]

lmao

[modest rune]

so i will be throwing a 21st birthday party in april

when i turn 23

[inner finch]

so true

[cold needle]

this is big brain idea

[south igloo]

This guy changing time to suit his birthday needs

[modest rune]

its not a 21st birthday party

if i remember it

and ive had exceptionally boring 21st and 22nd birthdays

[cold needle]

afaik you’re 19

[modest rune]

thx metal

[cold needle]

np

[compact tartan]

wtf

max is younger than me

[latent forge]

f(X) needs to be more than nonzero right?

or nonzero means not constant?

[atomic hornet]

It means not identically zero

[latent forge]

but if you take a constant polynomial f(X)= k for k in K then f(alpha)=k?

[atomic hornet]

Im not sure what youre saying.

It just says that there is some nonzero polynomial where f(alpha) = 0

[latent forge]

Oh my bad brain poop

[inner finch]

poopi

[deep mango]

so true!

[toxic schooner]

so true!

[astral marsh]

@fervent flame my writing class instructor talking about how last year, she was in japan, and had (female) japanese student who had been in new zealand

so basically canonically haachama

[pale orchid]

mochipoopi

[pale orchid]

tokipoopi

moldipoopi

poopipoopi

epoopidpoopidpoopi

maximum brain decay

mirza grindset poopi mindset

someone make it stop

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

[toxic schooner]

No, I dont think i will

[pale orchid]

shokipoopi

see, poopi is another cute-sounding word, like shashwat

but for incompatible reasons

so one can't satisfactorily combine shashwat and poopi

maybe poopiwat or poopishash

but that's a stretch

[blazing pawn]

[pale orchid]

kypoopi, ho

[deep mango]

[pale orchid]

#poopiArmy

[wispy dune]

Edd really went off the deep end

[pale orchid]

ah, this one is easy

pooppi

[wispy dune]

Bruh

[pale orchid]

and yes

[inner finch]

yes

[cold needle]

edd is out of it

lmao

[scenic narwhal]

Edd is the new funniest person on the server.

[inner finch]

[torn willow]

Moldi is a known troll

[pale orchid]

the previous one was also edd, btw

[scenic narwhal]

[inner finch]

so sus

[deep mango]

ultraproduct on vacation

edd takes their place

[inner finch]

dude anime voices are so fucking irritating

[deep mango]

you're an anime voice

[brave hollow]

what anime are you watching today?

[pale orchid]

big brother? more like onii-chan

[mortal oasis]

t

h

an

k

y

o

u

[deep mango]

[bronze pelican]

[scenic narwhal]

Kick for spam

[mortal oasis]

😦

[scenic narwhal]

[bronze pelican]

My is directed at Mirza

[deep mango]

then your sully is invalid

[pale orchid]

that is superfluous

[mortal oasis]

uh i thought this was chill i swear pls no ban

[deep mango]

mirza is right

[pale orchid]

all are directed at mirza

chill-2

[deep mango]

wonder why moldilocks is sucking up to mirza

[brave hollow]

glory

[bronze pelican]

Universal property of

[scenic narwhal]

[pale orchid]

all are directed

this is well known

[scenic narwhal]

Not by me

[mortal oasis]

sus

[scenic narwhal]

[pale orchid]

sussy

poopi

[mortal oasis]

im rp mizra: sus

[deep mango]

[mortal oasis]

thats sussy

[scenic narwhal]

Back down to second place Edd

[deep mango]

so true

le sussy has arrived. so true

[scenic narwhal]

Mirza why are you trying to impersonate rice

[pale orchid]

nPoopoid

sounds like a geometric object tbh

[deep mango]

category functor urdu highschool sucks, sus

[pale orchid]

npoopoid in n+1 ambient space

[inner finch]

the uhh

kakegurui

[light needle]

Watch some other anime

Like Hatcher

[inner finch]

You realize you implied that hatcher is horribly produced and has no substance

[light needle]

Well

[brave hollow]

I thought you hated kids in anime

[inner finch]

I do.

I hate every moment of this

[bronze pelican]

Hatcher anime

When

[brave hollow]

[inner finch]

i hate this mfer the most

The voice is so fucking stupid

[brave hollow]

I have not seen the anime but I have read the manga

[inner finch]

It's like

[brave hollow]

Is that the first boss

[inner finch]

if you take a tire

and pop it

and record the air flowing out

this is literally what they sound like

[neat lintel]

What technique do you use to switch between two different colored markers in a swift fashion?

[inner finch]

bribery

[brave hollow]

dub or sub?

[inner finch]

probably both

but dub

[pale orchid]

urdu dub

[inner finch]

mmm yes hindi dubbed anime

[pale orchid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kViCZO3kv2s&ab_channel=AluminumOxide

[inner finch]

janaab e aala hum aap se yeh arz karte hain ke aap eik sussy baka ki aamaal ada karne se gurez ki jiye

[latent forge]

wot

hatcher anime?

[light needle]

yes

man was a weeb

why do u think he has such good pictures

man spend too much time watching 2 things

[latent forge]

you are joking right?

[light needle]

no.

[latent forge]

where is the source for this wtf

[light needle]

well you gotta torrent it

its not free, unlike his book

its a meme in the community

[latent forge]

wait wtf

[light needle]

that his book is free but not his anime

[latent forge]

im being trolled

[light needle]

ok sure

[latent forge]

please give me source

[rigid mango]

dude yeah hatcher is sooo good

that episode on cohomology was the shit

[latent forge]

[rigid mango]

yeah it's a bit of an ecchi as well

some pull-backs and push-outs

[brave hollow]

echhi you say?

how do I get started?

[astral marsh]

@inner finch you should watch gintama

[inner finch]

watched already

[astral marsh]

you should watch it again

[inner finch]

i like the fukin

penguin

thing

elizabeth

fav character

[light needle]

[inner finch]

[distant vortex]

@inner finch

[inner finch]

lmfao

get rekt nerd

[distant vortex]

,ban mirza

[fathom swallow]

You don't have the required permissions to ban members here!

Jul 27, 2021, 8:50 PM

[distant vortex]

Damn wrong server

[inner finch]

so true

[distant vortex]

Did you start?

[inner finch]

no

[distant vortex]

Better than starting and not paying attention ig

[inner finch]

i will do toms

today is not that kind of vibe

[distant vortex]

okay fair

[deep mango]

I am a penguin.

[cold needle]

Go fly away, then

[blazing pawn]

You are a bald bird

[cold needle]

you can't.

that's what i thought.

slip and slide away then.

[deep mango]

🐧

Discord penguin emote is great.

[distant vortex]

🐧

[inner finch]

🐙

still the best emote

[deep mango]

🐍

[thorn brook]

[sharp mulch]

Hehe tentacles

[inner finch]

shut

[light needle]

Tentacles.

[inner finch]

SHUTP

[light needle]

[inner finch]

demon

[light needle]

I’m a demon with

Tentacles.

[inner finch]

john is literally cthulu

[light needle]

Indeed

[inner finch]

every time someone mentions

tentacles

i am thrown back to this one time

this bts stan recommended me some bts octupus tentacle demon fanfic type shit

[light needle]

Lmao

Link

[inner finch]

why would i still have it

[light needle]

For curiosity

Smh

[inner finch]

this was like 2 yrs ago

and 3 accs ago

[light needle]

Oof

Who was mizra before mizra

[inner finch]

i was always mirza 🧠

Literally never change my name

it's always mirzathecutiepie

[light needle]

Change accounts but not name

[inner finch]

yes 🧠

[light needle]

Big brain

[inner finch]

this way nobody will know

[light needle]

I have gone through a few iterations

None I will name bc of cringe factor

[inner finch]

my first emails were hyper cringe

email name things

[light needle]

Lmao same, it was me and my sister emailing each other threats when we were kids to test it

[inner finch]

[blazing pawn]

@vagrant kestrel how is this not life for black

[inner finch]

based sibling relationship

[light needle]

Indeed

[sharp mulch]

Tentacles are fun

[vagrant kestrel]

it's life

chikun problems 2hard

[blazing pawn]

Then why is the puzzle collection saying im wrong

[vagrant kestrel]

live HARDER

[blazing pawn]

I did literally the exact same thing but did the snapback first and it said i was correct

[deep mango]

tentacles 🙂

🐙

[inner finch]

shutup

[cold needle]

Shut Up! (read in smosh intro voice)

[inner finch]

die

[sleek wing]

https://tenor.com/view/smosh-shut-up-zorak-hub-zorak-virtual-tea-shut-up-gif-18617784

[cold needle]

oh my god

other people thought of it too

i rescind my joke i am in pain

[brave hollow]

but that makes you more relatable

[blazing pawn]

@vagrant kestrel isnt this death for white...

if W plays E19 then take at C19, if white plays C19 then fill at E19, if white takes at A19 then fill at E19

[bronze pelican]

quantum tech is so cool

[inner finch]

lmfao

[deep mango]

so amazing!!

[inner finch]

man digs a hole in a mountain and turns it inot an amazing hole

[wild lantern]

"Amazing hole" -me to ur mum

(I'm jk. I'm sure most of ur mums are lovely ppl.)

Pls no bully

[astral marsh]

A19 E19 A18 is life

[blazing pawn]

No its not lmfao

[last oxide]

"lmfao"

dang

[blazing pawn]

Thats 1 eye

[astral marsh]

it is, white has two real eyes

A19 and B18

you can't capture the big white dango because of the A19 liberty

[blazing pawn]

You just filled A19...

[astral marsh]

oh true lol

thats not life then

[blazing pawn]

its def death

i asked on the subreddit and they agreed

[astral marsh]

yeah that is dead from the image

[inner finch]

was the subreddit dead

[astral marsh]

baduk sub is pretty decently active

[mortal oasis]

i want to learn go

but like trying to learn go and chess is so hard

to much

[sharp mulch]

@devout nacelle https://chaleuria.com/novels/fake-slackers/

[devout nacelle]

Nice

I should archive these at one place

[scenic narwhal]

[devout nacelle]

This isn't Japanese though

[scenic narwhal]

Cartoonerds out

[sharp mulch]

It isn't a cartoon either

It's a novel

[scenic narwhal]

Just get out

[sharp mulch]

Lol

[devout nacelle]

@sharp mulch Have you read Ze Tian Ji?

[sharp mulch]

No

I don't like guys with long hair

[devout nacelle]

[sharp mulch]

It's like

Too much

Logistically

[devout nacelle]

How long are we talking? Typical Chinese historical drama length, or just below neck?

[sharp mulch]

Chinese historical drama length

[devout nacelle]

Ah, okay

[sharp mulch]

Even just below neck

[devout nacelle]

They look kinda cool to me

[sharp mulch]

Can you imagine your hair tickling the back of your neck

[devout nacelle]

Wish I had straight hair like that

[sharp mulch]

Ugh that sounds horrible

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

Maybe you just get a hang of it

Wang Yibo looks really nice irl

[sharp mulch]

Yes

[pale orchid]

you've never had long hair?

[sharp mulch]

Xiao Zhan x Wang Yibo

Teehee

No I've never had long hair

[devout nacelle]

Xiao Zhan is okay, he looks awkward without his long hair

[pale orchid]

you don't feel it on the back of your neck

you feel it on your back though 😛

when it's past shoulder length

[sharp mulch]

Also it must be so heavy

[pale orchid]

and it's very annoying and sticks to you when you're showering

[devout nacelle]

Oof

[sharp mulch]

Like whenever I get a haircut I noticeable feel lighter

[devout nacelle]

My hair grow like a nest

Dense and thicker, keep climbing higher

[pale orchid]

i've grown a bit past shoulder length a handful of times

[devout nacelle]

Nice

[pale orchid]

i end up cutting it cuz it takes too much effort lol

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

But yeah short hair are low maintenance

Better that way

[narrow rock]

I havent had a haircut since feb 2020

[devout nacelle]

How long are your hair now

[narrow rock]

mid-back

[devout nacelle]

Niceee

[narrow rock]

it's pretty annoying lol

[devout nacelle]

Get a haircut then

[narrow rock]

[devout nacelle]

Or is it a dilemma

[pale orchid]

i think that was the most recent one

[narrow rock]

I should probably get one

before the next surge

[devout nacelle]

Of not wanting to cut hair because you haven't done so for a year and a half but it's annoying too

[narrow rock]

that too

I lose all the progress

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

[narrow rock]

progress towards what

idk

[devout nacelle]

Keep it as a proof 😌

[pale orchid]

hair grinding

[narrow rock]

it should be less uncomfortable when summer ends

so November

[devout nacelle]

[pale orchid]

[rigid mango]

Are functions just machines that take in inputs and give outputs?

[torn willow]

Indeed

idk what happens if the input is from a proper class,but no one cares about thoss

[rigid mango]

Idk I heard someone say that thinking of functions only as that is limiting or sth

Probs a category theorist

[scenic narwhal]

Machines implies you are thinking of them as computations

[deep mango]

machines can have oracles.

[scenic narwhal]

Idk the only machines I know of are deterministic Turing machines 😌

[deep mango]

functions are just machines which take in inputs and give outputs.

[scenic narwhal]

Wow that is just rude, just because I don't know as much as you

Doesn't mean you should sully

[brave hollow]

What are machines?

[deep mango]

[deep mango]

things that take in inputs and give outputs

[scenic narwhal]

That's a limiting way to look at machines

Sometimes they don't give outputs

[deep mango]

sometimes the input is your expectations and the output is their fulfillment of the expectations

what machine doesn't provide a tangible output anyway

[scenic narwhal]

What do you interpret as an output of a non halting TM

The non haltivitiness?

[deep mango]

i don't consider that a machine

[scenic narwhal]

Me learning how to be cringe

[thorn brook]

I shall be your sensei

[deep mango]

i care about use.

[scenic narwhal]

Rice applied mathematician arc?

[deep mango]

a machine necessarily does something.

a turing machine on a nonhalting input can be considered a machine if reading from it in the middle of the computation can be made useful.

also, i don't mean use in any sort of literal sense

[scenic narwhal]

[deep mango]

i more mean the potential for use

[rigid mango]

I was more thinking like functions in a function space or field

[deep mango]

well

whether or not those are machines

it kind of hurts you to think about them that way

[rigid mango]

Ye that was what I was thinking

[deep mango]

imo, it's better to think of them as super long vectors

in, e.g., the setting of functional analysis

[rigid mango]

L O N G V E C T O R

[deep mango]

yes.

anyway, this way things like continuity or other stuff more obviously define subspaces.

[rigid mango]

like a vector with uncountably many coordinates?

[deep mango]

also, this allows you to do things like quotient by almost everywhere equivalence.

[deep mango]

yeah, and usually a lot of coupling.

like

if you're thinking about continuous functions, then coordinates "nearby" to your current coordinate (since the coordinates occupy a topological space) are forced have values nearby the value in the current coordinate

[scenic narwhal]

All this time I was thinking of tuples as functions

[deep mango]

[scenic narwhal]

Wow that is just rude

Just because our intuitions don't match

Doesn't mean you should sully

[deep mango]

anyway, the problem with functions is that in most function spaces you can't actually evaluate functions

like

for example, L^1 functions can't be evaluated

because there is no difference between the constant function 1 and the function which is 1 everywhere but at 0

in terms of anything the L^1 norm/metric is capable of observing

[rigid mango]

Fair enough

I'm just reading susskind's book on quantum mechanics and he keeps talking about functions as machines

[deep mango]

i see

that's very silly

since quantum mechanics is literally the field of applying L^2 and sobolev spaces to physics

and you certainly cannot treat such functions as machines

[rigid mango]

Yikes big words

[deep mango]

ok actually

they are still kind of machines

[rigid mango]

I kinda understand the point you're making

Cause they're physicists

[deep mango]

you can think of them as functions from the space of functions to C, by multiplying your function by any other function and then taking the integral over everything

this is a sense in which they're machines

[deep mango]

essentially my point is just "in QM we care about integrating wavefunctions, and integrals can't observe the value at singular points"

the physicists also then proceed to pretend that dirac delta functions are okay to use in any situation

(ridiculous)

anyway i guess it doesn't matter because you can probably pretend in QM that everything is piecewise twice differentiable.

[rigid mango]

Is it even a function?

[deep mango]

no

but it acts a whole lot like one from an integration perspective

again, it's only a function in the sense that it sends other functions to numbers

not numbers to numbers

[odd narwhal]

does toefl actually require preparation? It looks very easy

[scenic narwhal]

If you're fluent with English no

[devout nacelle]

Depends on the person and your educational training

[scenic narwhal]

But better to try writing the essays and speaking on those topics

To get an idea of time constraints

[devout nacelle]

Have you taken TOEFL yet, Moldi?

[scenic narwhal]

Time constraints can screw you over in speaking if you can't judge them

Yes

[odd narwhal]

Wait does toefl have an analytical writing section too?

hmmm alright

cuz yea i'm fluent

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah

[devout nacelle]

How long are the scores valid

[scenic narwhal]

2 years

Unfortunately have to give again next year

[devout nacelle]

Did you prepare for it?

Ah

[scenic narwhal]

It's easy but costs so much money

fucking $200

Then 27 to send to each uni

[devout nacelle]

Ooof

[scenic narwhal]

Also I just did what I said above

[devout nacelle]

Costs twice more than my annual uni cost

[odd narwhal]

does it only last 2 years?

[scenic narwhal]

The English in general GRE is way harder than TOEFL

Yeah

And GRE 5 years

[devout nacelle]

Ah okay

[odd narwhal]

hmm so i'll probably take it close to application date since it seems like nbd

[scenic narwhal]

My uni cost if you remove the stipend is 10k a year

And that's including hostel stay and food

[devout nacelle]

Damn

Holy shit

[odd narwhal]

oof

[devout nacelle]

That's such a good deal

[scenic narwhal]

10k is like $170

Ig

[odd narwhal]

oh

I thought 10k usd

[scenic narwhal]

Lmao

[odd narwhal]

rs?

[scenic narwhal]

Ye

Indian rupee

[odd narwhal]

ye I inferred

[devout nacelle]

Moldi any tips for CMI entrance

I'll be appearing 4 days from now

[scenic narwhal]

Oh shit 4 days

[devout nacelle]

[scenic narwhal]

Have you tried all the past year papers

[devout nacelle]

Bruh

[scenic narwhal]

Do it rn

Solutions are also available on the cmi site

[devout nacelle]

I'm still figuring out like basic combinatorics and elementary NT

[devout nacelle]

Right

[scenic narwhal]

Like proper proof solutions

[devout nacelle]

Is the pattern repetitive?

I thought CMI was more liberal about creating innovative questions in the subjective part

[scenic narwhal]

The only thing you really need outside of CBSE syllabus is like Chinese remainder theorem for natural numbers

[devout nacelle]

[scenic narwhal]

Just make sure you know that

[devout nacelle]

Like last year some of the questions were seriously good

[scenic narwhal]

It's not repititive

[devout nacelle]

Let me share one

[scenic narwhal]

You get an idea of the kind of problems and the kind of proof writing they expect

[scenic narwhal]

It's repetitive to the extent that each year there's one geometry problem

And like some other generic stuff

[devout nacelle]

I love that they use such nice descriptions and hints

But I'm still too dumb to nail them in time constraints

[scenic narwhal]

Holy shit I can guess which prof wrote that problem

/edited it

[devout nacelle]

[scenic narwhal]

Best prof in CMI

[cold needle]

👀 idk how to start this problem

[devout nacelle]

I just drew a picture and wrote garbage last year

[cold needle]

😭

[brave hollow]

part 1 would be case work 🤔

[cold needle]

yeah i was going to try like

enumerating stuff but

ach

[devout nacelle]

Pain

Typical combinatorics

[scenic narwhal]

Part 1 is not case work what

[cold needle]

idk maybe there's a clean solution but i can't see it yet

[devout nacelle]

Oh I remember I asked for the solution last year

Someone gave a very elaborate matrix like setup

Setting entries 1s and 0s

Something like that

[cold needle]

like an adjacency matrix

sure

[scenic narwhal]

Wait am I cranking then

[devout nacelle]

Yeah, something of the sort

Could be an alternative solution Moldi

[scenic narwhal]

Let me think

[devout nacelle]

I haven't checked the official one yet

[odd narwhal]

combinatorics 🤢

[devout nacelle]

I've started liking combinatorics but at the same time I don't know if I'll ever be good enough at it

[cold needle]

so of course no items on the diagonal

[scenic narwhal]

SxS has n² elements. Out of these n are on the diagonal. From the remaining you split things into pairs. From each pair you have 3 choices

[cold needle]

so then it's combo for the number of slots in a triangle above/below the diagonal

or something

maybe

pain

[scenic narwhal]

By pair here I mean pair of pairs

The 3 choices are put both pairs, or only put 1 of them

[nimble shuttle]

average combinatorics enjoyer

[cold needle]

oh right 3 choices

[scenic narwhal]

So 3^(n(n-1)/2) should be it

[brave hollow]

I mean its not the right word now that I think about it

but yeah

that

[scenic narwhal]

Unless I made a mistake

[brave hollow]

3^(k choose 2)

[scenic narwhal]

Ye

Jon it's an entrance for people who just graduated HS

Of course combi problems are among the nicer ones

[devout nacelle]

The only subjective problem I could do last year

My brain on MIT OCW calculus

[cold needle]

calc 3 moment

pain

lmao

[scenic narwhal]

Lol it's cool maman

You basically need like 2-3 full solutions

There are a lot of partial marks

[brave hollow]

is this a solution?

[devout nacelle]

No, the problem

[brave hollow]

reads like a solution tbh

[devout nacelle]

Very descriptive

They give lots of hints

[scenic narwhal]

Ye it's nice

They test proof writing more than anything

[brave hollow]

like the second paragraph looks like a start to a solution

[devout nacelle]

Neat

[scenic narwhal]

So if you have time you can also write what approaches you tried

For problems you couldn't solve

[devout nacelle]

I think I have a good way of writing and approaching problems

Even if I can't break them down completely

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah they tell you what notation to use to make it easier to grade

[devout nacelle]

But you get to subjective evaluation only if you cross a threshold with the objective ones, right?

[scenic narwhal]

Yep

[devout nacelle]

Any idea what the minimum is?

[scenic narwhal]

Objective you should be able to attempt almost all

Probably like half

But no idea

Varies year to year

[brave hollow]

is objective supposed to be easier?

[devout nacelle]

I see

[scenic narwhal]

But don't waste too much time on objective

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah they're shorter problems but they're still neat

[devout nacelle]

They're just, fill in a numerical answer or a one liner, no work shown

[scenic narwhal]

Like have elegant solutions

[devout nacelle]

But yeah

Still takes work

[brave hollow]

you can still take weird integrals and fit them as one liners

[scenic narwhal]

They use it to first eliminate a bunch of people

[devout nacelle]

Like some of the objective ones

[devout nacelle]

[scenic narwhal]

Then grade subjective for a few

[devout nacelle]

Precisely what they do

[brave hollow]

at least they say it would useful to graph

[devout nacelle]

Yes

I think I nailed at least one of them with a graph

I don't know how to solve them now, I have forgotten computational tedium

[brave hollow]

but those 2 are standard integrals I think

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah objective is real nice

[brave hollow]

still not as weird as the integration bee

[devout nacelle]

This is a timed entrance exam

Not a medal winning integration bee or comp lmao

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah lol plus it's only for elimination purposes

[devout nacelle]

Right

[scenic narwhal]

They're just seeing if you know basic stuff

How many objective did you do last year manan

[devout nacelle]

Oof now I regret not starting to prep earlier

[devout nacelle]

Let me check and guess

I think like 7.5/10?

Not all correct I'm guessing

[scenic narwhal]

Ok should be enough

oh no

[devout nacelle]

Let's see Moldi

It is what it is

[scenic narwhal]

But still like 6 should be good I think

Maube

[brave hollow]

are you planning the meta?

[devout nacelle]

I hope I've made some progress in a year

[scenic narwhal]

Lol yeah

[brave hollow]

what is the goal for objective ?

like how many do you need right

to move on

[scenic narwhal]

Varies

[devout nacelle]

It isn't explicitly specified

[scenic narwhal]

Is decided after objective is graded

[brave hollow]

oh

[scenic narwhal]

The cutoff is number of people

Not marks

[brave hollow]

based on rank

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah

[toxic schooner]

[brave hollow]

but maybe you could look at the patterns to estimate some marks

[scenic narwhal]

Definitely don't spend more than 30 mins on objective btw

Unless you have attempted ≤6 by then

[scenic narwhal]

Would be hard lol

The ranks and marks aren't publicly released

They just give 3 lists, people selected with scholarship, without scholarship, and waiting list

[brave hollow]

sadge

[scenic narwhal]

With like 50 people each

Might be less this year

[toxic schooner]

[scenic narwhal]

Because last 2 years more people accepted than usual

My batch had 22 people, 24 initially

[devout nacelle]

Christ

[scenic narwhal]

Next one 65, then ~45

65 was the biggest batch ever

[devout nacelle]

CMI Delhi branch when

[scenic narwhal]

Usually no one joins without scholarship

Lol

[devout nacelle]

DMI

[scenic narwhal]

Chennai is better

[devout nacelle]

Yeah Delhi sucks though, would kill half the purpose of why I want to attend CMI

[scenic narwhal]

Lmao

Chennai is hot but not delhi summer hot

And winter weather there is great

[devout nacelle]

I've heard evenings are really nice

Cool breeze from the beach

[scenic narwhal]

Yeah they're decent

CMI is not in Chennai too so it's not all crowded and such

[devout nacelle]

Not like honk-honk sweat, someone sneezes on your face

[scenic narwhal]

But also means there is like not good land around

[devout nacelle]

Owww

[scenic narwhal]

So like marshes

From where we get all those critters I told you about

[devout nacelle]

Lmao

[cold needle]

chennai during summer

idk chief

that was really sweaty

for me

[scenic narwhal]

Better than Delhi

Trust me

[cold needle]

alright ill take ur word on it lol

[scenic narwhal]

Ok actually

[cold needle]

as a florida boy i was shocked about chennai

[scenic narwhal]

I haven't been there may to july

[cold needle]

but to be fair it's similar in that it's close to water and all

[scenic narwhal]

So maybe it's worse then

[cold needle]

yeah i was there during those months usually

[scenic narwhal]

But April Chennai is better than April Delhi

[cold needle]

it's kind of really humid

i see

[scenic narwhal]

Same for August

One year it rained so much that the lake (nothing glorious it's like a puddle people shit in) next to CMI overflowed

And water seeped into campus

[devout nacelle]

Being A Rich OCI Kid: A Memoir From My Visit to India
By MetalNinja27

[scenic narwhal]

Or rather into hostel basketball court

And there were fish in it

Which the hostel dogs started trying to hunt

[devout nacelle]

Does CMI have anything besides academics

[scenic narwhal]

But they had lived pampered lives

Literally couldn't catch stranded fish

Some sports

There used to be an anime club

And they used to screen things

[devout nacelle]

Lmaooooo

[scenic narwhal]

But it died

Hell yeah

[brave hollow]

bruh sadge

culture

[devout nacelle]

Must've been your conspiracy Moldi

[brave hollow]

maybe I could pay the club a visit

[scenic narwhal]

Lmao

[toxic schooner]

Noice

[scenic narwhal]

Btw nyann that's Samurai champloo right

[devout nacelle]

You must've been the snitch who suggested destroying the club for "saving budget"

[scenic narwhal]

Club is dead without being on campus lol

Lmao clubs in CMI don't get budget

[brave hollow]

yeah

[scenic narwhal]

For screening activities

[devout nacelle]

[devout nacelle]

Ah right

[scenic narwhal]

Some do for proper stuf

[brave hollow]

Anime Clubs in Universities is what you need

sports is for losers

[toxic schooner]

[devout nacelle]

Would they be resuming offline next sem?

[toxic schooner]

i doubt it?

[scenic narwhal]

Hostel opens at half cap

Classes online

[brave hollow]

only good Universities have anime clubs

[toxic schooner]

I hope offline starts by the time i am in a uni

[scenic narwhal]

We had screenings of
Made in abyss
Madoka
Fate zero
Land of the lustrous
Baccano
Serial experiments lain
Anohana

[brave hollow]

actually good anime as well

[toxic schooner]

i dont want my college experience to also be useless like my school one

[scenic narwhal]

I wouldn't know what they are ofc, I'm not a weeb

[brave hollow]

bruh this club was made of cultured people

[toxic schooner]

i have absolutely 0 idea what this is

lol

[devout nacelle]

Moldi remembers all the names, sus

[brave hollow]

Madoka Magic

Baccano

[scenic narwhal]

I'm probably forgetting some other ones

[brave hollow]

Fate is a little sus

[scenic narwhal]

Manan I have really good memory

Ask saketh

I creep him out with my recollections about stuff he does which remembers nothing about

[devout nacelle]

Nice coverup weeb

[toxic schooner]

That sounds like me

[scenic narwhal]

Like his past hostel food preferences

[whole copper]

made in abyss is about little robot boys fighting in a hole
madoka is about little magic girls fighting in the sky
fate zero is about adults who can't deal with trolley problems
land of the lustrous is about a land that is lustrous
baccano is about a train
serial experiments lain is about an experiement
anohana is about anohana

[scenic narwhal]

Or like where we were when he told me about something 1 year ago

When he starts telling me about it again

[devout nacelle]

[scenic narwhal]

I tell him what he had in his hands etc

[toxic schooner]

anime is beyond me

[bronze pelican]

Anime movies > anime shows

[brave hollow]

anohana is about flowers*

[devout nacelle]

Yamin's YT channel>>>

[scenic narwhal]

Why is fate sus

It's fate zero

Not other fate

I was told to say this