serious-discussion

[vivid halo]

yeah

[bronze pelican]

Which project are you wanting to work on

[vivid halo]

Probably Jacob's?

[bronze pelican]

Me too

[vivid halo]

anything related to Shimura varieties

otherwise I do not care about this year's topic

[bronze pelican]

I want to work on Project 1.2 Obtaining/effectivizing explicit exponents for Galois lower bounds.

[vivid halo]

nice

[vivid halo]

but yeah I will not be devastated if I don't get to do a project group this year

[bronze pelican]

This will be the first AWS I go to

[vivid halo]

nice!

they're very fun

definitely my favorite conference I go to every year

[haughty lintel]

Just curious, which math class do you believe helps you progress the most as a math student? I guess I mean like which class really helps you take the "next step" in terms of thinking, problem-solving, etc.? I really only took linear algebra and calc 1/2 but still don't feel like a math major per se. Just someone who took a little bit harder classes

[solid snow]

Probably whichever one is more proof based and abstract

Could be analysis, abstract algebra, 'abstract' linear algebra, etc.

[haughty lintel]

I see. Do you think any of those classes are self-study able given the few amount of prereqs i have? Im taking calc 3 next sem but other than that i dont think ill take any of those after ODE 1/2. (Which would be like junior year :/)

[solid snow]

you can self study mostly anything

it's just a question of how much effort/time you dedicate to it

a teacher and class certainly help a lot but

[haughty lintel]

fair enough. I guess ill just learn whatever i missed along the way. Ty!

[dapper flint]

i'd recommended going over some topics covered in calc 3, e.g. matrix algebra, vector calculus

before your semester starts

vector calculus, which is the last topic for my class, is definitely brutal since my prof just crammed everything in the last week...

[untold sage]

How common is it for math professors go earn six figures?

[tight comet]

check the UC pay figures and get stats

[untold sage]

I want a holistic view, without doing the research myself

[tight comet]

it's probably better to get data

[sharp mulch]

"I want someone to tell me the answer without needing to do any work myself"

[swift sinew]

same though

[untold sage]

Exactly

[wooden flax]

sorry these memes are just too based for #chill

last one i swear 😩

[sharp mulch]

Memes go in #chill

[jovial ember]

Ange:

[sharp mulch]

I do wear glasses

#❓how-to-get-help

[bronze wedge]

Possibly

🇦🇱

[neat lintel]

Albania

[jovial ember]

Albania!

[neat frost]

Albania!

not to be confused with Azerbaijan

[flat harbor]

ok how can one confuse albania with alabama

"i was" then ure stupid
"so is slurp" yes

[halcyon lichen]

this is possible
azerbaijan nah man

aint no way

[flat harbor]

"are you ok" u know me

"no i dont" then never talk to me

u dont know me

thats what they all say

then they enter the blo world...

and noticing basic behavioral patterns doesnt mean you have any unique insights on a persons psyche

"blo ure weird" SO TRUE

i wuldve never thunk it

then wheres the details

i make a big deal out of things cause im a slut for attention

this is well established blore

yes

i dont think consistency is my strong suit

why do u think u need to be my therapist

when u send what u send in the dms

im not allowed to play around but also supposed to play around when u want.... idiot

[brittle socket]

What is going on in this chat

[neat frost]

@flat harbor begone witch

[torn willow]

You mean witcher?

[flat harbor]

im real

theres a real person behind the pfp..!!!

[reef quarry]

kek

[zealous garden]

I only have lcd behind my pfp

[long matrix]

meow

[rocky shuttle]

mrow

[bright hill]

Good morning Zane!

[rocky shuttle]

Good morning dar cube!

[rocky shuttle]

Got through the midterms?

[bright hill]

Like, 2 weeks ago lel

[rocky shuttle]

Oh lmao

[bright hill]

My marks have been good so far actually

And my classmate's have been terrible

Which makes me hate my uni so much more

[fringe needle]

I mean keep in mind you were doing math in your own time for a decent chunk of time before you started uni

Which isn’t the case of most people

[neat lintel]

I’m a good student

This year I don’t have any failed subject and they’re all over 60%

[bright hill]

Well, that might be true

[neat frost]

You're also a mega nerd

[bright hill]

If i didn't get the best mark in fucking economics

[neat frost]

Lame!

[bright hill]

I literally studied economics for 2 hours that semester

How.

[neat frost]

You also have more experience studying than your average classmate probably

[bright hill]

Literally how.

[neat frost]

Because you self studied a lot

Also you're a mega nerd.

[chilly hull]

self studying is the king of college prep

[cyan goblet]

considering econ students are business majors, the bar aint every high

[bright hill]

I didn't self study much

[chilly hull]

like

[neat frost]

Okay DarQ your uni is full of idiots

[bright hill]

I haven't even finished a single book I've read

[neat frost]

What is supposed to be said?

[bright hill]

Yeah

[chilly hull]

self studying is awesome

[neat frost]

Wow really???? Fr?????

[cyan goblet]

self studying is not how many pages u read per hour

it’s how many hours u spend per page

• someone online or something idk i heard it somewhere

[neat frost]

Anyway this is a lame convo

Wanna see some TeX weebery?

[neat frost]

Some other nerd

You're all nerds

[neat frost]

SOME2 LOLOLOLOL

[bright hill]

I studied math for about 374 hours this year

[neat frost]

"let's make a video this year! It'll be great!!!"

[bright hill]

That averages to about 1 hour a day

[neat frost]

What was the idea again? I forgor

[bright hill]

People can manage that.

[neat frost]

That's p good

[neat frost]

No not really

Most people are not studying every day

[cyan goblet]

since uni i study about 3 hours a day minimum

that might be a bit low actually

[neat frost]

Nerds!!!!

[cyan goblet]

but also four math classes so

i dont have much of a choice

[bright hill]

I wish i had 4 math courses

[sick kite]

axler be like

[bright hill]

I might have to fucking study then

[sick kite]

dar cube why can't you self study other shit if you have spare time

[bright hill]

Sigh, i am

[fringe needle]

i feel like you have a pretty big misconception of what background the usual first year undergrad student has

i came into uni fully expecting to get shit grades because my only view of other people doing math was on this server where most people are a good deal better than me

and it ended being the complete opposite

[bright hill]

Sry for the rant, I'm just kinda frustrated

[cyan goblet]

first year uni students

especially business majors

[fringe needle]

it doesnt mean the uni's shit, it just means i had an advantage cause i had done some self studying beforehand

[cyan goblet]

would maybe average 2 hours per week

[fringe needle]

this is very false

well ig it depends on the uni

[cyan goblet]

and major ig

[sick kite]

i'd take spare time as a blessing tbh bc here in high school I have very little time for self-study because I have so many other subjects

[cyan goblet]

idk a lot of my peers rn dont study a lot

[sick kite]

like if I get 2hrs self study done in a day that's a really good day

[cyan goblet]

and theyre mostly stem

[sick kite]

I only got 1hr done today and It wasn't super high quality

[fringe needle]

but at least in my experience the average stem student studies for more hours during the week than the average adult works

[cyan goblet]

hmm

[bright hill]

IG, i dunno, i was just expecting to find at least someone that sorta likes math irl

[cyan goblet]

idk about first year undergrad but id believe that for later years

[neat frost]

Find a hobby which isn't math

[fringe needle]

(when i say "studies" im including scheduled class time of course)

[cyan goblet]

oh

ok that makes sense

[sick kite]

by work are you saying that average stem student studies > 40 hrs a week or more than the effective working time of an adult

[fringe needle]

surely there's a few other students in your uni that enjoy math. And keep in mind it's not because you have bad grades that you dont like math

there are plenty of passionate people at my uni who are currently redoing first year

[bright hill]

I don't have a lot of free time

Classes are mandatory

I skip classes when I can but that's about it...

[fringe needle]

yeah, and a decent few study a good deal morethan 40h a week

[sick kite]

mhm

[fringe needle]

but then again this is just my experience of it i by no means have an objective outlook on the average stem student across all unis

[sick kite]

hm. I'm sure some reorganisation would free some up. at least that's true from anecdote

[cyan goblet]

imo studying is one of my great pleasures of life

[chilly hull]

40h a week sounds doable if i carefully manage tine

[cyan goblet]

like what is more fulfilling that expanding your knowledge

[sick kite]

true, I enjoy the process of studying

[chilly hull]

same

[sick kite]

then the progress comes all by itself

[cyan goblet]

the ability to pursue knowledge is a blessing

[sick kite]

its the same with triathlon which is a hobby of mine

I enjoy running, swimming and cycling by itself as a means rather than looking for the goals of faster times, for example

and faster times come by themselves

[chilly hull]

i want to reach the point where i can start PDE theory

sounds fun

[sick kite]

I have quite a bit of time before I can start even considering pdes

but lots of fun stuff inbetween

[chilly hull]

i have a lot to do before i can start pde theory

functional analysis

measure theory

multivar analysis

[sick kite]

it will come in due time im sure

[chilly hull]

i think some point set topology

idk

[bright hill]

I hope that's true

Have found none so far doe

[sick kite]

im sure that the grad students enjoy math

[chilly hull]

darq what math class is it if i can ask

[solid snow]

At that point just take the university class(es) lol

[bright hill]

Algebra, analysis and prop/stats

And a of them watered down

[chilly hull]

could i smash the analysis class

[bright hill]

Absolutely

Like, the only group theory we did in algebra is the definition of a group and the definition of a subgroup LOL

[chilly hull]

wtf

[bright hill]

Same goes for ring and field theory

[chilly hull]

i dont know much algebra

all ik is what a group is

an abelian group

i think what a ring is

[bright hill]

Oh, yeah

[chilly hull]

and what a field is

[bright hill]

We defined abelian groups too

[chilly hull]

would an abelian ring just be a field

[bright hill]

No

[sharp mulch]

?

[bright hill]

Also, abelian rings aren't a thing

[chilly hull]

i know

[bright hill]

It's just called a commutative ring lmao

[sharp mulch]

Lol

[chilly hull]

i was thinking something weird

[tall badge]

we need division too

[bright hill]

Yeah, so

[neat frost]

So what did you do in algebra then DarQ?

[chilly hull]

oh right i forgot inverses

[bright hill]

Uh

Other than that

We started with a semi brief intro to proofs

Polynomial rings and polynomial factorization in C and R

Bezout and gauss' theorems

[chilly hull]

idk much about algebra so i cant say much about this

[bright hill]

Fundamental theorem of algebra (which we didn't prove)

[chilly hull]

what about analysis

[bright hill]

Analysis is just calculus

Literally

[chilly hull]

seriously?

like

[neat frost]

Fun! Idk what any of those are

[bright hill]

Yea

We did calculus in hs

[chilly hull]

not even epsilon delta?

[neat frost]

It's just like induction

[bright hill]

And IG this is just harder calculus

[bright hill]

Ok, we did that

[chilly hull]

ok nvm

[bright hill]

It's SO dumb!

[chilly hull]

does the material look more like spivak calc

[bright hill]

Ughhhh

[chilly hull]

or something like stewart

[bright hill]

That's prolly harder, i dunno

Haven't read both of those

What's bugging me is that my classmates are struggling

[neat frost]

So help them

Also I forget do you have a plan to transfer next year?

[bright hill]

I know this might make me sound obnoxious or rude but i truly don't understand that at all

[neat frost]

I understand it

[bright hill]

Oh, god, hopefully I'm not here still by next year

[neat frost]

When do you plan on transferring?

[bright hill]

Next year

[neat frost]

Yeah okay

[bright hill]

[neat frost]

Do you know what happens to your credits if you transfer?

I'd start looking into that, because you may not be able to keep all of them

[bright hill]

It's gone

[neat frost]

Ah

Well

Is there a way to transfer them?

Maybe taking some courses with the future uni even now?

[bright hill]

I dunno, i doubt it

I'm technically not even in a uni

Anyhow, i shall continue my rant

I genuinely think I might've been more interested in math and academics in general if i had peers that were equally (preferably more) interested

And i thought i might reallyy have that once i entered uni

All I've seen so far is disappointment

[neat frost]

Move here

[sick kite]

Darq i know you are frustrated but you need to understand that a math degree doesnt immediately imply that everyone loves pure math

many probably do it for better job opportunities

the time will come for communities which love pure math

probably when you're a grad student

[neat frost]

I don't think he's saying that he expected everyone to

Rather that he expected to be able to relate with at least someone/some people

[bright hill]

Ye

[neat frost]

I think you're totally justified btw

Again, move here 🥱

[sick kite]

what uni do you go to slurp if you dont mind me asking

[neat frost]

Bar Ilan

[sick kite]

israeli uni

interesting

[neat frost]

Which is not an especially good one btw

So if you do move here, don't go here

[bright hill]

That's uh

[neat frost]

Also don't move here

This is my territory

[bright hill]

Problematic

[neat frost]

If you don't beeeeliiiievvveeeee

Also don't move here for other reasons

[bright hill]

And it's not that my courses are too hard btw

I think they're objectively manageable

It's just that my classmates are lazy

[neat frost]

I get what you're saying

[bright hill]

And uninterested

[neat frost]

Being lazy is a trait I respect

[bright hill]

I don't say that lightly or speculatively at all

[sick kite]

Jesus. You're in first year. I'm sure that as time goes forward the amount of interest in the subject will increase

[bright hill]

Doubt

[sick kite]

It's hard to take difficult courses without at least some interest, and because students will inevitably take hard courses (and do well) in the later years, that implies that they will have at least some interest.

[bright hill]

Hopefully

[mint canopy]

Some people are interested, and some aren't. It can be easy to believe that, when seeing the uninterested people all around, you're the only person who cares – however this is a dangerous trap to fall into!

It is true that most undergrads (especially in first or second year) are not particularly interested in mathematics and are probably there just to get a degree. However you must not dismiss the people who are interested, but you may not be seeing. In fact if you're doing a Master's degree, you will come face-to-face with these people very quickly. Never assume that you're the smartest person in the room, and especially not in a crowd.

[neat lintel]

In my class nobody is interested enough to enroll in a Mathematics Uni.

it's rare to find those people that really fall in love with mathematics that much to just do entirely that for their life. Most of us in class, and people from other classes can enjoy maths, but not to the point of only doing math exams for 3 years.

[fading moon]

some people told me if you read a mathematics bachelor degree, it will have a huge impact on your future career and research, I believed him

and I regret it

[neat lintel]

read? what do you mean "read a degree"

[fading moon]

I mean attend a degree, or whatever

sorry English is not my native language

[neat lintel]

Yeah it's ok. You meant to pursue a maths degree

[fading moon]

oh yeah, I think that's the appropriate word

[bright hill]

Just "did" would do

...if you did a math degree...

[neat lintel]

I think honestly any degree done in a university\college has a good impact on your life

As long as you applied to learning from it

[fading moon]

I wish I chosed to pursue the CS degree

[neat lintel]

One can't have everything.

I'm sure that mathematicians can get into CS and programming stuff on their path tho, many do.

If I want to be honest with you, my parents also tried to convince me to take CS or Comp. Engineer in the past because I always had 100% in CS subject from the first years of HS.

But I made the right choice and rejected both engineering degrees or CS offers.

[fringe needle]

This can’t be stressed enough

It’s a very easy trap to fall into

[alpine kindle]

how would one meet the interested people

[cold needle]

talk to them

[neat frost]

I can tell you how not to meet people

[mint canopy]

Yeah honestly it's not super easy

[alpine kindle]

but like how do you find them

[mint canopy]

In my experience the people who are super motivated don't tend to get involved with maths societies and the like because, at least in the UK, they're just excuses to go drinking

[neat lintel]

I would say just keep avoiding an eye contact

[mint canopy]

I think the best way to find these people is going to mathy events like talks, conferences, etc

And ofc talking to them. It's hard for me too

[cold needle]

someone has to break the ice

Don't wait for them

[mint canopy]

And it's so often myself :(

[cold needle]

yeah

its tough but i think its an important skill

getting over being awkward

getting over other people being awkward

etc

i have a lot to learn from my friends who are good at socializing

with strangers especially

[mint canopy]

Idk why but the mantra "If not now, when? If not you, who?" has really stuck in my mind, so I'm usually the first person to speak if nobody else does

[alpine kindle]

i see

yeah

[neat lintel]

I'll start socialising more when HS ends tbh, there's too many idiots in my class

[cold needle]

lmao

[neat lintel]

I only socialise with my math genius classmate cause he increased my grades or something

[mint canopy]

Don't wait too long. Also just remember that people are usually likeable once you get to know them a bit

[alpine kindle]

yeah

I'll keep that in mind for uni

[neat lintel]

Same

[neat lintel]

Nah bruhv

Some people are really better not involving in your life, especially in HS

[mint canopy]

This much is true

[neat lintel]

There's a lot of people that are in HS just because their parents put them there and have no intent pursuing any further studying, and only disturb lessons.

The way classes works in Italy is that you keep the same classmates for all subjects for 5 years, so I know them too well by now.

I think there's just a big transition between the quality and quantity of people you can meet in HS and University that can have positive outcomes in your life.

[river moon]

I went to one of these math events in my city this year which had a theme of "modern math for school and early university students" and it held up to that theme because there were many active researchers giving lectures and some of them are also professors at country's best universities

frankly it was kind of eye-opening when I was the only one who raised hand when the lecturer asked "who doesn't know what a projective plane is?"

[brittle socket]

Sounds nice

[low spindle]

Remove the last three words and you have the best life advice anyone can give.

[iron leaf]

I'm debating on how much to charge for tutoring and I'm curious what you guys think. I've been approached by a mom looking for tutoring for her high schooler in geometry. I've worked for my university as a tutor for 3 years, I'm finishing up my masters and I'm certified as a level 3 tutor through the College Reading and Learning Association.

I'm thinking about charging $30 for an hour remote/they come to me or $45 for an hour I come to them. Do you guys think this is a fair rate, or am I under/overselling myself? I don't want to rip people off but I also want to be paid what I'm worth.

[vivid halo]

that's fair yeah

maybe underselling a little at 30

[neat lintel]

I can’t help. I do pay tutors but it’s a different country and currency

[static loom]

do 60 to 100 dollars imo

[iron leaf]

I currently make $15 an hour at my university (low, but consistent) and $50 from another high schooler (they offered that rate to me, i come to them)

[neat lintel]

I pay around 20€ an hour for receiving in person tutoring from a Physics PhD, but I’m in Italy

[iron leaf]

That seems so high to me, are you sure?

[static loom]

if they say it's too high you can negotiate down

I'm sure

[iron leaf]

Hm. Perhaps $40 for an hour online/they visit me or $50 i visit them

[low spindle]

I tutor for hot meals, chalk, and warm socks.

[iron leaf]

Nice chalk is a good reward lol

[low spindle]

Ikr. Bastards all hoard the good stuff.

[static loom]

I'd do 60 for them visiting you, 75 you visiting them

[peak tide]

people get paid like $20/hour for flipping burgers these days, seems you should be able to get at least double that for specialized skills like math tutoring, but it's all about supply/demand where you live

[static loom]

part of it is getting over the uncomfortable aspect of negotiation, any kind of self esteem/sense of worth you have, among other things. For instance, if you charge more, the perception of your service by them changes as well. For instance, if someone pursuing a phd or masters in math is charging a cheap price for a lesson, it makes a regular person think they're some kind of dropout or something, and providing a sub par service.

[neat lintel]

Damn bro that’s so high.
An engineer with master degree on my country gets 15$ x hour on avg if lucky

I’m honestly really worried by my country economy right now. Especially because I want to become a university student and I do expect to be rewarded properly after all those years

[river moon]

well everything in the US is expensive compared to most other countries so the paycheck needs to account for that

usually you'd have cheaper things in local currency than what you'd get in USD somewhere abroad

[neat lintel]

Yeah I know

I just hope in the future my degree will be worth it for a good job, and my best friend too I’m concerned for her

[low spindle]

If you wanna make money, get a marketing degree and learn how to lie well. If you want to do what you love in life, keep up the good work.

[neat lintel]

I picked up a BA degree in Ind. Design and I start in about 6 months. My best friend is doing Fine arts Digital Media

[brittle socket]

Ind?

[neat lintel]

Industrial

[brittle socket]

Ah i see

[neat lintel]

It’s also the reason I’m in this server 😂. There’s going to be just one pure math exam in first semester and I’ll come for help on the future cause I’ve never done linear algebra and curves ever in my life before.

[iron leaf]

I wish you made that much at fast food jobs lol

[torn willow]

No, discussion 2 is a soulless cashgrab

Like a Disney sequel

[zinc tartan]

Guys

what are some maths topics that you find fun

Because I'm just 'getting into maths' if that makes sense and wanted to try new things

[torn willow]

Generating functions

I guess complex analysis?

Linear algebra

And like information theory

I think ODEs is like what the cool kids do

[frigid lark]

Do information theory^

[neat lintel]

like cryptography?

[torn willow]

No info theory is completely different

[neat lintel]

that somehow reminds me of shannon's noiseless channel theorem

i forgot where i got that term

i hope i got it right

anyway...

shannon entropy associated with p_1, p_2, ..., and p_n

which is defined by

$H(X) \equiv H(p_1, p_2, ..., p_n) \equiv - \sum_x p_x \log p_x$

if you're a moderator or honorable, pls cmiiw as i'm human to make mistakes

[fathom swallow]

verymischievousperson

[rocky shuttle]

I suck at multiline TeXiT

[fathom swallow]

zan cube

zan cube

zan cube

zan cube

zan cube

[rocky shuttle]

@long matrix

[split island]

#serious-discussion is the real math discussion channel

Tomorrow evening is when I can finally get back to you btw Zan bc finals will be over

[rocky shuttle]

Looking forward to it!

[split island]

Maybe I do it after my final so I think about math that isn’t going to make me sad

Time to scour AGS for a more rigorous proof of this backwards velocity thing

[rocky shuttle]

AGS?

[split island]

Ambrosio Gigli Savaré Gradient flows

It’s a very general flavor of gradient flows and really the only all inclusive book on the subject

[rocky shuttle]

so... ASG

[split island]

Fixed it

[rocky shuttle]

[split island]

This book is very dense and hard to read

But many if not all recent papers that reference gradient flows probably reference this thing

[neat lintel]

sounds like not an easy read 👀

[split island]

If you, idk, ever wanted to know about the tangent bundle to the space of probability measures with finite pth moments, this is the book

[neat lintel]

i'll check it later

ty for the book

[split island]

It’s interesting

If you don’t have a strong analysis background it’ll be very intense

[neat lintel]

when i see someone asking questions on math discussion, i'm like googling what that is to help me in understanding as i'm curious

[deep mango]

gradients like those word art things

[neat lintel]

it'll take more time to comprehend

i get it

[neat lintel]

that's like when i was trying to understand what lim sup is

[deep mango]

but do you say "lim suhp" or "lim soup"

[cyan goblet]

lim suhp

i can see where soup comes from tho

[neat lintel]

limit supremum thing

[cyan goblet]

but i always pronounce supremum suhpremum

[rocky shuttle]

I'd rather want to know about the tangent bundle of the shape manifold $$B_e(M,N)=\operatorname{Emb}(M,N)/\operatorname{Diff}(M)$$ to bring my own research forward

[neat lintel]

or superior limit

[fathom swallow]

zan cube

[cyan goblet]

holy shit this is a throwback

[deep mango]

you should hear what my probability prof called lim inf

"lim unf"

[cyan goblet]

LOL

[neat lintel]

i have heard lim inf

but i've never heard of lim unf

wtf

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/205223/limit-supremum-and-infimum-struggling-the-concept

[cyan goblet]

limit unfriendly

as opposed to limit friendly

in between is limit amiable

amicable

[deep mango]

have you seen this picture

i like this one

[neat lintel]

ah yeah, i have seen this one

[cyan goblet]

i like that one

[neat lintel]

it's beautiful

[cyan goblet]

very intuitive

i like thinking of limsup as inf of sup

and vice versa

[deep mango]

it also draws the right thing with the red lines

like these red lines are total nonsense

there's no smooth envelope prescribed by the sequence

[neat lintel]

i have once asked the question in some help channel to help me in understanding lim sup thing

no one helped me but i figured it out eventually

however i started feeling like i'm lack of knowledge after understanding it

look different but they both intersect the peaks

i'd never seen that before i did read the quantum computing book

are lim sup like the ones ending in 1-

0+

[next schooner]

not if you plot every phase all at once

[split island]

Gradient flows are fun little objects. A way to think of them is to consider the ode (I’ll neglect initial conditions now yadda yadda)
[\dot{x}=-\nabla E(x)]
Where $E$ is “nice” (convex, lsc, etc.)
If you recall the simpler ODE on $\mathbb{R}$,
[\dot{x}=-x]
has a nice solution! It’s $x(t)=e^{-t}$. So here, we actually have found a gradient flow in disguise! If we let $E(x)=\frac{1}{2}x^2$, we see that $E’(x)=x$ so we just solved $\dot{x}=-E’(x)$.

Now, what does this mean? Well… Gradient flows in turn have the goal of giving you an idea of what minimum values of $E(x)$ are! So if we recall our solution to $\dot{x}=-E’(x)$, $x(t)=e^{-t}$, we see if we let $t\to\infty$, $x(t)\to0$, and in turn, we notice that [\lim_{t\to\infty}E(x(t))=0!]

[fathom swallow]

hero cube (Kirby)

hero cube (Kirby)

[neat lintel]

gradient flows?

[split island]

This is what I was talking to Zan about a little bit ago

The content of the book I mentioned

[neat lintel]

ah

[next schooner]

what is a gradient flow

i don't know this terminology

[rocky shuttle]

kirby just explained

[split island]

In other terms, we know that gradient descent trails down the gradient to minimize convex functions
A gradient flow is a sort of continuous version of that

[next schooner]

gotcha

[split island]

So in my message I just posted, I gave a simple gradient flow in R

On the rather elementary convex function (1/2)x^2

[long matrix]

thank u ><

[next schooner]

mhmm

whack it on a manifold and skrem

[rocky shuttle]

How do gradient flows differ from more general flows though? Are there interesting results?

[rocky shuttle]

uwu, lmk if you're still confused

[split island]

I think the flow part of gradient flow is just the callback that it solves some ODE whereas the goal of these is to minimize the functional in which the gradient is acting on

[next schooner]

are you talking about flows on a conservative field

in generality

[split island]

They do not need to be conservative (if I have read about Wasserstein gradient flows correctly)

[neat lintel]

sorry for interrupting

[split island]

You’re all good :)

[next schooner]

oh right yeah

yeah you don't need some underlying scalar field i don't think

to define a flow, anyway

[neat lintel]

there are lots of things i need to learn

[next schooner]

wasserstein gradient flows?

uhhh

fokker-planck stuff right?

[split island]

Yeah

The massive thing I wrote was defining the Wasserstein gradient flow

[next schooner]

oh sorry i didn't see that

[split island]

Yeah no worries it was a bit ago

[next schooner]

OH was that the thing i said i would read

[split island]

Yea

[next schooner]

i did read it but brain no work so good

[rocky shuttle]

pin it now rat

[split island]

I think the fun thing behind the scenes for gradient flows is there is an intimate connection with geodesics

Like p-Wasserstein is a geodesic space

[next schooner]

i've been on mental health leave for like two months now

[split island]

Defining geodesics along admissible probability measures

[next schooner]

rusty math in my brain

[split island]

Understandable, I’ve just mentally checked out as you have probably seen why

[rocky shuttle]

Is 2-Wasserstein a Riemannian manifold?

[next schooner]

i don't know if i saw entirely why but like i get it lmao

i'm supposed to start again in the new year and I don't think i'll be able to at this rate

[rocky shuttle]

Also, does the gradient only exist in the 2-Wasserstein space?

[split island]

I have not checked this, so I’m not entirely sure. My knowledge of diffgeo is admittedly lacking

[rocky shuttle]

Okay, no worries

[next schooner]

Wasserstein metric 😵‍💫

[split island]

p=2 is particularly nice because we have some nice geometric stuff going on so defining things is a lot nicer. However, it should work for p>=1

I’m not sure if the second statement is an open question or not using the minimizing movement scheme

AGS appears to just say “it’s hard when p\ne 2 man”

[rocky shuttle]

I see, I'm asking because when working with general Banach spaces, I'm not aware of the notion of "gradient", only direction of steepest ascent

[split island]

Yeah, I’m not very comfortable at this level of generality so I cannot say for certain

[neat lintel]

you also use print book nice

[split island]

I’ve encountered the brain rot of p=2 and only 2

[split island]

Indeed

I get print books for things I deem important

Only two of my books I would say aren’t really too important for my interests

Perko diffeqs and Stein-Shakarchi Complex Analysis

[neat lintel]

diffeqs
complex analysis

oo

sounds really thoroughly profound

[split island]

Perko is a good treatment of odes from an advanced undergrad/early grad perspective and stein-shakarchi is a pretty typical grad level complex analysis book

[neat lintel]

noted

[junior stump]

Man I hate myself

That obsession of always wanting to solve hard questions in math test

This habit has pursued me for years and caused me really serious problems

Like yesterday during the math test

We've been asked to find to show that the intersection of two circles is the center of a similitude

*one of the intersection

[long matrix]

yh just learn to skip things u cant do in tests

and try at the end

[ripe wasp]

does this mean that the chapter will be focusing on banach spaces or limiting the view to real/complex numbers?

shouldn't it say "we will be limiting ourselves to studying functions on the real/complex numbers from arbitrary banach spaces"

or something

since banach spaces are more general than those two vector spaces

[jovial ember]

????

Functions f:R -> B or f:C -> B where B is a Banach space

[ripe wasp]

oh wait im dumb

i thought it meant like we'll be limiting our study of functions from f:B->B to f:R->R or f:C->C

my bad english is hard

[jovial ember]

[ripe wasp]

[jovial ember]

Rip in pepperoni

[frigid matrix]

If I want a job that requires drug tests when should I stop smoking weed? Immediately or do I have time

online says 90 days in hair

should i just go bald lol?

[vivid halo]

Lmao

[vast surge]

Don't bother quitting; it can remain in your blood for years.

[vivid halo]

Depends on the test method and how heavy you use

[vast surge]

Actually also half the time they do drug tests to see if you're cool enough to be an employee there. They want people who can supply their own drugs, instead of mooching off their coworkers.

[frigid matrix]

i have smoked in a year

but i really want to lol

[fervent pebble]

dont

[latent sage]

Damnit @inland raft

The largest angle will always be across from the largest side, same goes for small/medium sides and angles. Smallest/medium angle will always be across from the small/medium side.

[inland raft]

Yeah...

I thought you wanted the actual lenght

[latent sage]

That would still be good to know tho

[shut basin]

Derive the normalized wave equation for a particle in 1D box of length 2L (0<x<2L) for third excited state.

can anyone please solve it!

[sharp mulch]

#❓how-to-get-help

[long matrix]

wuhhh the monkey is frozen !!!!!!$!$($8_+49392929)$9_8_83929$)")9__9_9_9

#release chmonkey from the cube

[opal swallow]

is my answer correct?

[sharp mulch]

#❓how-to-get-help

[fast moat]

you are supposed to round it down

you cant bake .62 pieces of pastries and call it a piece

[bold carbon]

not necessarily

you are assuming too much - that half the time someone would be able to bake half the pastries

but the problem is that the process of baking pastries requires waiting

so the answer is "probably 0"

[plucky viper]

Since this is a math server i just thought id ask if any of you guys recognize the name gina wilson

[leaden torrent]

Canada's deputy minister of gender equality?

[sharp mulch]

https://allthingsalgebra.com/ this one probably?

[plucky viper]

Yeah that one

Not the prime minister of canada

[sharp mulch]

Kind of sounds like a scam

I read the about me and it's just

Incorporate activities?

I'm looking at the algebra 1 activities bundle and there are 1. word problems 2. non-word problems and 3. coloring

This does not inspire any faith

[kindred dawn]

i might be an idiot here but wouldnt it be easier to do 30/10= 3 and then 14/3=4,6.....

[kindred dawn]

yeah but now youre the one assuming really cause there are so many different factors that no answer would be satisfying see a pastry doesnt have to be baked it could ´be cooled or something totally else

[violet wraith]

could $\sum_{i=1}^{n+1} a_i = \sum_{i=1}^n a_i + a_{n+1}$ be proven or is it more of a definition?

[fathom swallow]

gmod

[neat frost]

more of a definition

[violet wraith]

I'm waiting for a reputable answer

[neat frost]

Wow

Moddy just cuz I shitpost 99% of the time doesn't mean I don't know any math

[violet wraith]

boomer

[surreal sapphire]

its a definition

and you can prove it

by applying the definition

[neat frost]

Loch how did you even get the documentation

It won't let me download any of the files

[violet wraith]

lmao thanks loch

[neat frost]

Screw you moddy

[surreal sapphire]

its on your computer

is it not

[neat frost]

It is

[surreal sapphire]

why are you asking me how to get your documentation

[neat frost]

Oh maybe it's because you're on a different ctan mirror

Because I'm curious!

It's my baby, I wanna know everything about it

[long matrix]

hahahaha

[neat frost]

Looks reasonable to me

[long matrix]

is this his?

[surreal sapphire]

im sorry slurp but

wtf is this

[long matrix]

HAHAHA

virus confirmed

[neat frost]

Full disclosure this is not my original code

I gave credit in source but I forgot to in the documentation

[surreal sapphire]

i havent seen half the stuff listed here

more than half

[neat frost]

Well it's my original code, modified version of someone else's, which is a betterfied version of someone else's

[neat frost]

Because it's so cool and amazing you can't find this stuff anywhere else

[surreal sapphire]

yes

anyways, if you hit the correct server you can get it

i dont know how CTAN distributes this stuff but you can get content served from different servers

https://ftp.fau.de/ctan/macros/generic/pdfmsym/pdfmsym-doc.pdf this one works

[neat frost]

Oh thanks!

\pdfmsymsetscalefactor such a mouthful

[tight comet]

\vecc

wtf is \lightning

[neat frost]

\vecc is the whole reason this package exists

,tex \lightning

[neat frost]

Proof by contradiction

[tight comet]

im now awestruck

[neat frost]

It is quite a striking symbol (cuz it's lightning, get it?)

[frozen merlin]

good one slurp

[jovial ember]

That one made me laugh Slurp xD

[neat frost]

Thank you thank you

[long matrix]

[hexed moss]

My great grandfather (still living) was a chief engineer at NASA during the space race, and personally worked on Skylab. I've been granted the great opportunity to see the original documents and notes that were taken during the creation of Skylab as well as a list of all the active engineers who were under my Great Grandfather. It's one of the biggest inspirations for me to pursue a career in aerospace engineering and for me to pursue a math heavy career.

Being able to see and touch documents from that era just feels so surreal and is a completely different experience than reading them from archives

[jovial ember]

Bro I’m sorry

I thought this was a copypasta at first

😭

[hexed moss]

It's alright

Had an autism moment and nerded out about it

[jovial ember]

No it’s cool tho

I just read the first line and thought it was some greentext

[hexed moss]

Lol

[neat frost]

Chmonkey once again Chmowned

[eager reef]

[deep mango]

I wonder if your great grandpa and my grandpa knew each other

he worked on the apollo missions in some kind of leadership position but i don't really know what

i don't know the chronology of skylab vs the apollo missions

anyway he was my only real STEM role model so i talked to him a lot about that stuff and was really dead set on following his path lol

@hexed moss

[fair obsidian]

Yo

Can u help me out

@deep mango

[deep mango]

No

[neat frost]

My grandfather also worked with NASA as a contractor from some engineering firm

[deep mango]

i need to go move a christmas tree

[neat frost]

I don't remember for which missions though

[neat frost]

*Hannukah bush

[fair obsidian]

Ayt bruh

Slurp

[deep mango]

I bet he cleaned up some of my grandpa's litter

[neat frost]

No.

[fair obsidian]

Damnit

[neat frost]

Nah my grandpa is cool (this was not genetic)

Also ryc I need your advice if you're not yet moving your hannukah bush

[fair obsidian]

Did u guys finish high school

[neat frost]

No

[fair obsidian]

What grade u in

[neat frost]

Senior

[fair obsidian]

Uh

I get what u mean but what number

[neat frost]

12

[fair obsidian]

So ur done with AS

[neat frost]

Tf is AS

[fair obsidian]

As level

Yk there’s Igcse as and a level

[neat frost]

Not everyone is from the UK a or wherever that is

[fair obsidian]

I ain’t even from there lol

But I’m using there curriculum

[neat frost]

But to answer your question no I have not and will never do A levels

[fair obsidian]

It’s f’in struggle bruh

8 tests in a week

And I have more next week

[hexed moss]

Could have happened, he was there for a while

[fair obsidian]

@neat frost what subjects did u take

[neat frost]

In what? HSes in general teach generally the same subjects

[fair obsidian]

Did u get a decision on what u can learn like u could choose to do math physics and others

Like for AS and A levels

U can choose from a variety of subjects to learn

In AS for my school u choose 4

And A level u choose 3

So I’m taking physics chemistry biology and math

[neat frost]

I did math and physics and I did very basic bio+chem a while ago

[fair obsidian]

Oh cool

Well I’m giving up on my math homework cause I forgot the entire topic

I’m just gonna go play fifa 😂

[dim needle]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06107.pdf
https://www.scirp.org/pdf/apm_2022022414044727.pdf

I wonder why these two are wrong.
Maybe someone who likes Collatz can come up with a refutation for those two.

What's really funny is I created a thread asking about the first one in a different mathematics server. I gave up after finding their induction doesn't work, that one of their variables (I think it was m) doesn't make sense as an integer even though it's used as one, etc.

I haven't looked at the second one yet, I want to take a closer look

@tight compass

Huuuhhhh?

I know this is the beginning but this feels very sus

[surreal sapphire]

I wonder why these two are wrong.
yes, they are

[long matrix]

arxiv

[alpine kindle]

traumatic flashbacks to a certain variable over the complex numbers

[long matrix]

yh i left before they did

im very very mildly curious of the aftermath

[alpine kindle]

they were banned

I'm not going to discuss it

[long matrix]

rip

[dim needle]

So I'm still reading this but already I'm seeing possible problems here

1. You would need to know that the sequence is referring to positive numbers. You can do a "division sequence" starting with a negative number as well, so you should be careful doing these out of context.

2. Also, while I don't think it's a huge issue here, if you're not careful you may not know it's the 4-2-1 loop. Supposedly, a sequence of 2,2,2,... etc may not actually be the 4-2-1 loop but something else and that would need to be proved.

[long matrix]

read no further than this.

[light needle]

no one who knows any math will ever care about collatz tbh, thats enough to know its crankery

[dim needle]

I think it's worthwhile to talk about how proofs can be bad. It's something I personally want to practice myself, identifying problems with bad proofs

[light needle]

fair

[jovial ember]

I proved collatz

[long matrix]

in some cases, what you're reading is so convoluted that it just messes your head up if u attempt to understand

[dim needle]

Uh... What? What does that mean there's only one element in the division sequence of n?

Am I the only one confused here?

[long matrix]

It says definition

but theres literally nothing being defined

[jovial ember]

[dim needle]

I think this is the "definition"?

[long matrix]

do i need wew to tell me this is crankery? I think not.

[dim needle]

If we're talking about the "division sequence" of n, that's just its trajectory. Most numbers don't have a trajectory of 1 or an empty set???

This is... not a proof

[neat lintel]

I proved Collatz. I just defined a new field of mathematics where it is an axiom

[dim needle]

I'm so glad I took logic and algorithms, I finally have a chance of understanding this stuff

[bright hill]

terrence tao be like:

[dim needle]

I swear every Collatz proof I have read always seems to be some version of "oh look I can prove every part of the Collatz tree"

[light needle]

he was obv bored one day

only explanation

smh

[dim needle]

I don't think that's how induction works

I haven't proven why this proof is wrong yet and I more or less already lost my patience. I guess the real skill I need to develop is that at this point

[long matrix]

why do u need this

reading wrong math isnt what a mathematician should do

[dim needle]

I personally want to prove the Collatz Conjecture myself, and I don't want to write a garbage proof. I'm expecting that if I ever think I have a proof, there's most definitely a problem with it and I bet someone at a university tutoring center can spot the problem with it

[long matrix]

the proof being written garbage or not is secondary

coming up with the relevant ideas to prove it is primary, and i dont think this hurdle is likely to be crossed.

[jovial ember]

university tutoring center

[dim needle]

I'm not a mathematician, I'm not going to expect my first attempt at a proof to be very good 🤷

[long matrix]

I feel like you're missing the point.

The point of the proof is to convince everyone else

but before that - you first have to convince yourself

ie. prove it to yourself first

Can you? I doubt.

[dim needle]

I'm assuming just because I think my proof makes sense doesn't mean it actually makes sense

[river moon]

collatz conjecture is one of these problems that nobody in their right mind would bother checking the validity of the proof for

it's fermat's 2.0 and that still runs with people "coming up" with simple "proofs"

[long matrix]

at least one can see how fermat's still has some mathematical relevancy

[dim needle]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I hope that if I go to someone with the opinion "can you tell me what's wrong with this?", I have a better chance of someone actually reading it

[light needle]

the path to fermat like led to the devolopment of many good tools that are more interesting than fermat

its certainly a more relevant and useful problem than like

collatz imo

by a long shot

[vast surge]

But according to some guy on reddit collatz led to (p,q)-adic analysis, which is useful only in that it's equivalent to collatz, so therefore collatz is just as useful as fermat

[light needle]

interms of crankery tho, they attract similar levels probs

[long matrix]

try math exchange. formulated well, it won't get downvoted

[long matrix]

this is interesting

if true

[dim needle]

I have been on stack exchange and I don't really like being there. I can post my potential proof there, but honestly I think I'm better off meeting with people in person

I have the issue of people explaining stuff and it completely goes over my head

Like I said, I'm not a mathematician

[long matrix]

idk what to say honestly

I don't know what your mathematical background is.

'not a mathematician' doesn't make it clear

[dim needle]

My mathematical background is I have passed Calc 3, dropped out of Calc 4, I just recently took logic and algorithms, and I spent a lot of time in tutoring for the first two weeks before dropping def eq because I struggled hard

I really like math, but taking higher level math in college is both incredibly stressful for me and demotivating. I'm a computer science major and I like the idea of teaching myself higher level math concepts over time

[long matrix]

Would you be familiar with the contents of an intro to proofs course

say the pdf pinned in #proofs-and-logic

If yes, then at least you should have the foundation to be able to write a proof properly.

[long matrix]

I'm not sure on this though.

If you make your background clear on mse and/or ask people to elaborate on their answers (or point you to some reading), it shouldn't be an issue

[dim needle]

Oh wait, I just realized it may not be this

I think I'm at least partly familiar with these concepts. They seem kind of confusingly written honestly.

[long matrix]

This might be content from an introduction to logic

But I dont think this is the right math to be studying

[dim needle]

The pdf on the other hand I understand

[long matrix]

If I had to pick, a background in Number Theory

is like basic here.

[dim needle]

I know what De Morgan's law is, I understand what a truth table is, I have written direct proofs

[long matrix]

(and my opinion), after that, an introduction to abstract algebra gives more of a solid foundation in proofs

[dim needle]

I see

[tight comet]

Not a good background to tackle Collatz

[long matrix]

i call on my fellow cats. today we invade

@rocky shuttle @fair mural @split island #1019305288714702851

[fair mural]

uwu

you’re lucky i just now got on

[long matrix]

@jovial ember lets guuh ^

[jovial ember]

???

I’m a cat?

[long matrix]

#1019305288714702851

ur a honorary cat

[jovial ember]

I’m a Chmonkey

[rocky shuttle]

myon

[long matrix]

down with the mice

do we trust slurp

[alpine kindle]

are you down with that?
we're down with that

[long matrix]

we lost deep but its ok

[wild lantern]

Tox must be sleeping

[bronze pelican]

Guys

[long matrix]

shhh

[bronze pelican]

I have a real analysis final exam tmrw

[long matrix]

gl yuwu

[bronze pelican]

I'm so unprepared

[long matrix]

its ok yuwu

[fair mural]

[long matrix]

no one cares about real analysis

[bronze pelican]

And I'm tired I don't wanna study

[fair mural]

true shuri

[long matrix]

complex is what matters if anything

[bronze pelican]

Eh

[wild lantern]

Do you have coffee?

[bronze pelican]

Real analysis can be cool

I just don't care about submitting hws and studying for exams

[long matrix]

i do not find the weiersilly function cool

[vast surge]

You'll be fine

[tall badge]

weiersilly

[long matrix]

waw new roketto

[fair mural]

fancy roketto

[tall badge]

with the way you talk about it, more like weiersully

[long matrix]

perfect

[tall badge]

i only just found out about avatar decor and color so im going all in

[long matrix]

we gained @chilly hull , perfect

and @bright hill

today is the day !

[bright hill]

🫂

[bright hill]

THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY SINCE THE BETRAYAL OF THE MICE LEADER

I NOW DECLARE MYSELF A PROUD MEMBER OF THE CAT SYNDICATE

CAT SUPEREMACYYYY

[neat frost]

...cringe?

I'm so tired but I wanna do group theory hw

[long matrix]

make ryc do it

[bright hill]

No u

[shell oar]

Is it normal to feel literally no sense of panic whatsoever for the exams

Like I'm still stressed out, but not worried or determined enough to start studying

I spent the past few days doing literally nothing productive, and feeling only mildly guilty about it

[wicked jackal]

Only if your experience tells you its fine

[rocky shuttle]

Can we consider it success when #mice-v2 has been deleted?

[split island]

mice-v3

[rocky shuttle]

Where? I want a #deer-v1

[split island]

I'm saying we should add #mice-v3

#deer-v1 sounds good

[rocky shuttle]

I forgot which channel #mice-v2 was in

[split island]

#foundations

[rocky shuttle]

Ah ty

[jovial ember]

Is mice-v2 gone now lol

[neat frost]

Noooo

Why do you guys have to ruin every good thing

[split island]

[long matrix]

Now the war is over is it time to make peace?

[split island]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-hatsune-vocaloid-music-pfp-gif-26522132

[scenic patio]

#help-17 message
learnt two things from here. the red coloured ≠ sign, and the way I can put single alphabets in fraction easily
Because although \frac12 used to work, but \fracab wouldn't work.
thanks @bright condor 😄

[bright condor]

my redneq sign is a custom command

[scenic patio]

ah I see

whats the original cmd?

[neat frost]

You can do something like \mathrel{\color{red}{\neq}} (\mathrel for spacing)

<xcolor> % Ignore
$1\mathrel{\color{red}{\neq}}2$

[brittle socket]

[proud olive]

source?

[neat frost]

Thanks yohan you know how I require your validation

Source?

[split island]

I've wanted to make this an animated background on my phone bc it's very cute

Sadly iphones don't let you make it that long 😔

[proud olive]

cuz it's a complete battery drainer!

the fact that they even allow that is odd

dont @ me

[wicked jackal]

2=1+(2-1)+(2-1)+(2-1)...
2=(1+2)-(1+2)-(1+2)...
2=0

[split island]

iPhones allow live photos to be wallpapers

[split island]

I want my cute aesthetically pleasing wallpaper smh

idc about battery life smh

Hm, I'm not sure

[proud olive]

God i hope Ange doesn't see this

Then I'd be in trouble

[split island]

This isn't even remotely correct 😭
1+(2-1)+(2-1)+... = 1 + 1 + 1 + ...

So if you're going to meme with bad proofs, at least make the believable smh

[wicked jackal]

I know lol, I didnt know how to make the meme

[split island]

This is probably better suited for #chill tbh

[wicked jackal]

Shit I thought I was there

Nvm

[split island]

but if you set it up like 2 = 2-0, you'll be able to come up with 2 = 0

[proud olive]

you fool!

you've doomed us all!!

[sharp mulch]

[proud olive]

av shid he has been summoned now

[wicked jackal]

Dont ban me

[scenic patio]

thankyou very much!!

[neat frost]

[wheat flume]

Good evening everyone I wanted to ask if there are any french mathematics helpers out there that could help me with a problem ?

[neat lintel]

#❓how-to-get-help

tbf i'm not fluent in english at all

[wheat flume]

me neither haha but I am currently getting help so it‘s fine thx for the message tho 🙂

[wooden flax]

i fucked up my final so hard today

wanna curl up in a ball and cry

need some copium

[violet wraith]

what class

[wooden flax]

engineering

[violet wraith]

rip

[wooden flax]

it was a very easy final, i just forgot that linear sketch existed in solidworks until 5 mins left

[violet wraith]

pain

[wooden flax]

95% of the rest of the class got a 100 lmao

while i...

[neat frost]

Can you redo?

[wooden flax]

nope

[violet wraith]

did you fail

[wooden flax]

perhaps

probably a C

[violet wraith]

hopefully a C

[wooden flax]

yeah

[proud olive]

Damn

What kind of engineering class was it?

[wooden flax]

introductory

[narrow thicket]

Does anyone have experience quitting video games?

[neat lintel]

Yes

[violet wraith]

me

[narrow thicket]

Tell me about it

[violet wraith]

I just don't have time anymore

[neat lintel]

I quit gaming in 2020

For studying

And art hobbies

[neat frost]

I just get easily bored of video games

[neat lintel]

I sold my Gtx1660 to buy art supplies

[narrow thicket]

I enjoy the atmospheres, it's like going traveling

And completing a lot of things gives me satisfaction

But what if I just get used to not doing that

[neat lintel]

When gaming removes time from studying or hobbies then it’s wasted time for me

[narrow thicket]

And put all of that time and effort into something else

Also my girlfriend hates it, haha

[neat lintel]

I think gaming can be ok, but it’s easily addictive and doesn’t always make us benefit or grow in any way

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S027826261930199X

Gaming addiction disorder, and Internet addiction disorder are actual things and honestly and it shocks me it’s hardly talked about and playing games several hours a day is normalised by some communities.

[narrow thicket]

Wow

Usually when I "need" to play video games is when I'm coping. Like when I had a pretty bad programming summer job and I was just solving stupid tasks for hours

[shell oar]

Welp that explains why I was the very last person to finish my math exam

[narrow thicket]

But when I'm in not that kind of situation ... when I get tired I can just do easier stuff like watch popular science or play with something I'm not studying or working on

Maybe I can just get my brain used to not needing the constant buzz video games give you

It's like going off sugar

[shell oar]

How do I stop the addiction

[narrow thicket]

And maybe that will be better for me

[narrow thicket]

Hmmm, good question

[vivid halo]

Literally just quit for a bit

It doesn't sound like you have a crippling enough problem that quitting is some kind of impossible task

Uninstal games off your phone and computer if you have to

[narrow thicket]

I used to play hours every day, but I played a lot less after I met my gf who hates it

I got this mail with how much I played in 2022 recently and it said roughly 200 hours, so about 0.55 hours a day

Now let's just make that number 0

[shell oar]

I've done nothing except watch Youtube videos every single day after high school for hours.

every single teacher had a problem with me being distracted

for me, I'd say that it's crippling, because I missed out on literally everything

[shell oar]

Steam hours? Or???

[narrow thicket]

PlayStation

[shell oar]

ah

[neat lintel]

Maybe you can replace your YouTube videos with math videos about what you need to learn

I use YouTube to study my stuff often, using some free videos from education channel

[vale sapphire]

yo can someone help me what is 9+10

[narrow thicket]

19