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(so the third column is correct). Ill leave you with this cuz I gtg, The columns of T_B are exactly [T(v1)_B T(v2)_B T(v3)_B]

We found T(v1)_B = (0, 0, 1), T(v2)_B = (2, 0, 0) (so the second column is right I was dumb before)
and by part a, T(v3)_B = (-1, 1/2, 1)

violet field
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Ah yes! Sorry I’m trying to work out the math quickly as we speak. Making algebraic mistakes! It’s [ 0 0 1]^t [2 0 0]^t [ -1 1/2 1]^t

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And just want to confirm part c is A^-1*[T]B?

slow scroll
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If you’re using the matrix TB from part b, then it does actually have the form A^-1[T]A since you have to correct for the TB inputs AND outputs in beta. When you first posted you q, I wasn’t looking at it in the context of part b. Sorry if that causes confusion...

fallow jolt
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Can I get help with c and d?

quartz compass
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any ideas on how to show they form a basis for R^N?

gleaming topaz
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I found the determinant of this matrix to be 3a-3 but why do I get a solution when a=1, shouldn't there be no solutions when det=0?

fallow jolt
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@quartz compass Show they're independent?

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That was my first thought, but I'm not sure how to show it

quartz compass
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yeah

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they'll be linearly independent if you can find nonzero scalars that sum to make 0

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$c_1 \vec v_1 + \cdots +c_N \vec v_N = \vec 0$

stoic pythonBOT
quartz compass
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suppose you have it

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now take a dot product with one of the vectors with nonzero coefficient and see what happens

fallow jolt
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Bingo!

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Thank you

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Would d equal alpha_i? @quartz compass

quartz compass
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almost

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they're orthogonal, but I don't think they said they were necessarily orthonormal did they

fallow jolt
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it is @quartz compass

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Should have mentioned this

quartz compass
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oh then you're fine

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otherwise it'd just by multiplied by the length squared

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weird, I wonder what they had in mind, I basically did part d to solve part c, oh well

fallow jolt
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d seems to be the exact problem as c

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but shorter

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lol

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right?

quartz compass
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haha yeah idk

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I wouldn't worry about it

fallow jolt
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How would I approach this problem?

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I think I got it!

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x = V.T*b

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e = 0

fallow jolt
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@quartz compass

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Could you help me out with this?

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IS V*V.T equal to the 1?

north sierra
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if you're using gram scimdt for a set of 3 vectors

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v1 is easy

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but is there a way to check if my work is right for v2 before moving onto v3?

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cause like messing up one step will mess up the rest since its recursive

undone garnet
fallow jolt
dusky epoch
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use the hint

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well

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do you know the relationship between how many solutions a system has and the det of its coefficient matrix

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surely you must have gone over that in class

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yes so what must det(B) be then

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and det(AB)?

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why

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yup

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so how many sols does ABX = 0 have

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so which is it

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well there you have it then

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you have a solution, more specifically the zero solution

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and you can't have only one

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so you must have infinitely many

charred stirrup
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in 2d space, is there a special name for the linear transformation that makes i and j linearly dependent?

feral mountain
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try singular

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@charred stirrup

charred stirrup
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singular?

feral mountain
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A matrix is singular iff it has determinant 0.

gray dust
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for a square matrix with a col of 0s, what do you think?

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cool

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why don't you try expanding along that col to work out the det

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or use something about linear dependence of the matrix's cols

minor galleon
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Ok guys I need a concept check

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So if a matrix is singular

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Then one eigenvalue is 0

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So the kernel is a subset of eigenspace right?

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But if the matrix is non singular

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The kernel is NOT a subset of the eigenspace

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But can we say that the kernel is the eigenvectors for eigenvalue of 0? Just following from the definition of an eigenvalue

dusky epoch
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yes. yes we can.

minor galleon
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Even tho there is technically no eigenvalue of 0?

dusky epoch
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well if 0 isn't an eigenvalue then your kernel is trivial

minor galleon
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Wdym by trivial

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As in it’s only 0?

vast torrent
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Right

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If no eigenvalue is zero, the kernel is {0}

half ice
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If an eigenvalue is zero, then its eigenspace = the kernel

gleaming topaz
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If I want to find a line through 2 lines in R^3, do I just take a point on each line and calculate it from there?

empty copper
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Sure

gleaming topaz
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Cool, thanks!

solemn lotus
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"prove that every square matrix can be expressed as a sum of a symmetric and skew-symmetric matrix"

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would appreciate h e l p

vast torrent
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I didn't know that. Cool.

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hmm

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wonder if eigendecomposition will help

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we're assuming real entries, yes?

solemn lotus
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yes

vast torrent
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wikipedia says

gleaming knot
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Add it with its transpose and subtract it with its transpose

vast torrent
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the eigenvalues of a skew-symmetric matrix are purely imaginary

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icy's method is probably more straightforward

solemn lotus
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hmm could you elaborate a bit more?

gleaming knot
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I was actually thinking I gave too big of a hint

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Here’s another hint: the same is true for even and odd functions

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How does the proof work there?

solemn lotus
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I think I can do it, I'll try it out

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oh wow that was... easier than I thought

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matrix + transpose gives one while matrix - transpose gives the other

vast torrent
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@gleaming knot this way seems obtuse after your hint but can we say that by density we consider diagonalizable matrices and write the real and imaginary parts of the JNF eigenvalues?

solemn lotus
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thxthx

gleaming knot
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Well a matrix with real eigenvalues isn’t necessarily symmetric

vast torrent
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oh right, it's necessary but not sufficient

gleaming knot
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Yep you can conjugate a matrix by a non symmetric matrix and it doesn’t change its eigenvalues

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and conjugation by such doesn’t preserve the symmetric property

vast torrent
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what do you mean by conjugate a matrix by a non symmetric

gleaming knot
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Start with M and consider P M P^-1

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That’s conjugation

vast torrent
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More than once I've had to yell at the demon in my head that whispers to make a density argument for lin alg proofs by considering the space of symmetric matrices

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It's the devil on my shoulder

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tempting me to sin

gleaming knot
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You can cast it away by telling the devil that the dimension of the space of symmetric matrices is strictly smaller than the dimension of the space of all matrices

vast torrent
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or I can just pull out an airhorn

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doesn't work well on an exam though

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the airhorn

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hm. what's the dimension of the space of symmetric matrices? thonk

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give me aclue, don't tell me the answer

gleaming knot
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Count how many independent entries you can put in the slots

vast torrent
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n(n+1)/2 ?

gleaming knot
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Yep

vast torrent
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nice

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thanks 🙂

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I'm studying for my quals in January

gleaming knot
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😱

vast torrent
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one day lin alg, one day multi, one day complex analysis

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3 hours each

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I'm scared

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I failed the first time but you can take it more than once

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oh let me post one I was having trouble with

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practice problems from previous years

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Part 1 :

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Let $A$ be a $3 \times 3$ matrix with all $0 \le a_{ij} \le 1$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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Show that $\det A \le 2$ and find such matrices with $\det A = 2$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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so uh

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I figured I'd approach this using a greedy algorithm

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on the signs of the cofactor matrix:

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$\begin{bmatrix} + & - & + \ - & + & - \ + & - & + \end{bmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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I'd put 1 in a11, 0 in a12,

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and 1 in a13

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and so on

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is that the right start?

gleaming knot
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Just fix the first row then consider 2x2 minors from then on

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Instead of recording

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Recursing*

vast torrent
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okay so we have

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$1 \begin{dmatrix} + & - \ - & + \end{dmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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uh

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what went wrong

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in the latex

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$1 \begin{vmatrix} + & - \ - & + \end{vmatrix} + 0 + 1 \begin{vmatrix} + & - \ - & + \end{vmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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yes?

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$= 2 \begin{vmatrix} + & - \ - & + \end{vmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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maximized for

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$2 \begin{vmatrix} 1 & 0 \ 0 & 1 \end{vmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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so that's an example of a matrix with det(A) = 2

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but I didnt really prove you can't get higher

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but i wanted to use uihh what's it called

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linear programming

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not the algorithm, just the theorem that linear programming works

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I need help formalizing my thoughts

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that to maximize a matrix with entries between 0 and 1, you consider only the "simplices" where entries are 0 and 1

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you cna ask Eddy I'm not in a rush

gleaming topaz
vast torrent
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why not go one step further with your question. Can you just take s = t = 0?

gleaming topaz
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You mean cross product of (1,0,-2) x (2,5,-1) ?

vast torrent
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If taking s = 0 t = 1 would work, then I think taking s = t = 0 would also work. I'm just making your question more extreme

gleaming topaz
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Oh sorry I might have been unclear

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I meant to take both s and t equal to 0 and 1 to get 2 points on the line to get a vector

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But not sure if that is right

vast torrent
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aah

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well

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because lines through the origin are subspaces

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you only need to get a basis vector for each line

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and then take the cross product

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yes?

gleaming knot
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Those lines aren’t through the origin though

vast torrent
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oh, so they're not

gleaming knot
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Vectors on the line aren’t gonna be parallel to the direction vectors

vast torrent
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I read it too quickly

gleaming topaz
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Sorry what do you mean Icy

vast torrent
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what are direction vectors, unit vectors at the origin?

gleaming knot
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$\ell_1(t)$ for some random $t$ isn’t gonna be parallel to the direction of $\ell_1$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming topaz
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If it's in the line how is it not or am I understanding you wrong?

gleaming knot
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The vector represented by $\ell_1(t)$ is the vector from the origin to that point

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming topaz
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Sure, so if t=1 I get (3,2,1)-(1,0,-2) right? Which gives me the vector (2,2,3)?

gleaming knot
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Oh you did l(t) - l(0) instead of just l(t)

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That works

gleaming topaz
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So say I do this, does the cross product give me the vector which is orthogonal to both the lines?
S=(3,2,1)-(1,0,-2)
T=(3,6,0)-(2,5,-1)
S x T

gleaming knot
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You can check the orthogonality yourself if you aren’t sure

gleaming topaz
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Ugh, why didn't I think of that, thanks.

vast torrent
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:)

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Okay back to my problem if you are still willing to help.me icy?

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This is only part 1 btw

gleaming knot
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I can’t spend too long thinking about it but first consider when one of the top entries is 0

vast torrent
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Mm hmm

gleaming knot
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Oo I got something

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The three 2x2 minors (with appropriate sign) can’t all be positive

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Simple algebra inequality manipulation

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That solves it

vast torrent
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are we still only considering entries 0 or 1?

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you agree with my reasoning?

gleaming knot
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No the determinant is cubic in the entries not linear

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So you can’t use linear programming

vast torrent
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no I mean

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uh, what do I mean

gleaming knot
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And the maximum doesn’t necessarily occur at vertices

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Of the poly tops

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Polytope

vast torrent
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the answer key reduces it to entries 0 and 1 only but I dont understand its reasoning. the answer key is by students so it might be wrong

gleaming knot
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Oh hold on

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It’s linear in each entry if you fix everythjng else

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So fixing 8 of the 9 numbers

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The determinant is linear in the last number

vast torrent
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so you can use linear programming?

gleaming knot
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So reducing it to 0 or 1 does work

vast torrent
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okay great, that makes it more tractable 🙂

gleaming knot
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My way is simpler and doesn’t require reducing it to 0 and 1

vast torrent
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please*

gleaming knot
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Prove at most two of the three minors with the appropriate sign can be positive at the same time

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You’re basically done then

vast torrent
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if all 3 were positive you wouldn't be at a maximum?

gleaming knot
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It’s impossible to have all 3 positive is what I’m saying

vast torrent
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hmmmm megathink

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oh

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because if all entries are between 0 and 1

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uh

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then the product of them is also betwen 0 and 1

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no, I dont think Im going the right way

gleaming knot
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You have to make variables and write down equations lol

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Inequalities rather

vast torrent
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$\begin{vmatrix} a & b & c \ d & e & f \ g & h & i \end{vmatrix} = $

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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$a(ei-hf)-b(di-gf)+c(dh-ge)$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
gleaming knot
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yep and I’m talking about the terms ei-hf and so on

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I think that’s all the hints i will give

vast torrent
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I guess I'll come back to this in an hour or so because I'm not seeing it. Thanks for your time icy

fallow jolt
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Let's say I have an orthogonal matrix

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But it isn't square

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Call it V

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Would V.T * V = I?

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I being the identity matrix

vast torrent
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"orthogonal matrix" is a term used to describe a type of square matrix

fallow jolt
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Sorry

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The columns are orthogonal

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And have magnitude 1

vast torrent
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k

fallow jolt
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But

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Instead of NxN

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It’s Nx(N-1)

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That’s the trick for this problem

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Any ideas?

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I think it’ll end up being I

gleaming knot
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The entries of $V^TV$ have a neat description in terms of the columns of $V$, just derive it from the definition of matrix multiplication

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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You’ll find the problem pretty tautological once you do this

jagged saffron
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elementary matrices represent row operations

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they did the row operations for you

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now just find the elementary matrix representation

fallow jolt
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Basically

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You can do row operations on the identity matrix

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And multiply it

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To get the same thing

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iirc

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Someone correct me if I’m wrong

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I remember this being a homework problem for me once

vast torrent
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@gleaming knot 1 > 1 is the contradiction?

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I simplify the inequalities and all the variables end up being 1

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assuming all three equalities hold

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so I get 1 > 1

gleaming knot
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I don’t understand very well

vast torrent
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I have a set of three inequalities

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$\begin{cases} ei > hf \ di > gf \ dh > ge \ 0 \le a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i \le 1 \end{cases}$

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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yes?

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and when I simplify this, am I uspposed to get a = b= c= d = e =f = g = h = i = 1?

gleaming knot
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You don’t want di > gf

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You want the flipped version of that

vast torrent
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Oooh

gleaming knot
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Because the coefficient of that is negative so to maximize it need to make it negative

vast torrent
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Okay so there's no solution to that

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Meaning at most 2 minors are positive

gleaming knot
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Yep

vast torrent
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So then 2 is a crude upper bound

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I need to make it sharp

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Oh i do that by my example

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Okay great :) part 2 is much harder , ill do it later. Can i @ you when i try it?

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Thanks icy

gleaming knot
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Sure

rose grotto
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I don't get what to do here

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ik how to do

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regular simplex

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but idk about unbound

feral mountain
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when you perform the algorithm did you get a non-positive column under an entering basic variable?

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@rose grotto

rose grotto
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what u mean

feral mountain
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I assume you've tried performing simplex on the program?

rose grotto
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nvm dw ty

wind mirage
wind mirage
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yall niggas useless

quartz compass
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no u

steady fiber
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maybe if you weren't so useless and posted in the correct channel

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could've got answers

rose grotto
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I DONTTT UNDERSTAND AAAA

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idk how to tell

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if it has no maximum

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ty

rose grotto
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how do I tell if

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its unbound

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?

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<@&286206848099549185>

rose grotto
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can someone explainnannn

tranquil trail
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<@&286206848099549185> Is anyone available to help me with my study guide, its involving linear transformations

scarlet hamlet
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hey

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i know on M2x2(R), its 4 but idk about complex

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would it be the same?

gleaming knot
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You have to say over what field

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For example, $\bC$ is 1-dimensional over $\bC$ (example basis: ${1}$) but it's 2-dimensional over $\bR$ (example basis: ${1,i}$)

stoic pythonBOT
scarlet hamlet
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oh uh

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could you explain the first bit?

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C being 1 dimensional over C

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i think i get why its 2-dimensional over R because you can express a complex number as a+bi -- so the basis is {1,i}

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but im not too sure about the first bit?

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@gleaming knot

gleaming knot
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Every complex number can be expressed as a complex number times 1

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So {1} serves as a basis

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When we say "over C" it means the field of scalars is C

scarlet hamlet
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oh

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okok i think i get it

rose grotto
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idk how to tell if it has no maximum

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@feral mountain

viral mason
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i think ur question is more linear programming

rose grotto
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ya its apart of linear algebra tho

solemn lotus
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Can i say that det(A+B)=det(A) + det(B)

gleaming knot
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You can say that but is it true?

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$\det(I+I)\stackrel?=\det(I)+\det(I)$

stoic pythonBOT
solemn lotus
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It is not true then

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How would one add two determinants

gleaming knot
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Do you mean compute the determinant of a sum?

solemn lotus
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I know that $\begin{vmatrix} a+x & b+y \ c & d \end{vmatrix} = \begin{vmatrix} a & b \ c & d \end{vmatrix} + \begin{vmatrix} x & y \ c & d \end{vmatrix}$

stoic pythonBOT
solemn lotus
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i mean the sum of two determinants @gleaming knot

gleaming knot
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I don't understand, what's stopping you from adding the determinants?

solemn lotus
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Well I can't exactly add them like matrices, right?

gleaming knot
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Determinants are 1-dimensional matrices so you can add them

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like you'd add two 1-dimensional matrices together

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if $\func A V V$ thne $\func{\det A}{\det V}{\det V}$ where $\det V:=\Lambda^n V$ where $n=\dim V$

stoic pythonBOT
solemn lotus
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$\begin{vmatrix} a & b \ c & d \end{vmatrix} + \begin{vmatrix} p & q \ r & s \end{vmatrix} = \begin{vmatrix} a+p & b+q \ c+r & d+s \end{vmatrix}$?

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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That's just the same as your claim that $\det(A+B)=\det A+\det B$

stoic pythonBOT
solemn lotus
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yes that is why i am confused

gleaming knot
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I don't think there's a way to represent the sum of two determinants as a determinant of some formula in terms of the two matrices

solemn lotus
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i see

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oh welp, thanks

north sierra
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$det\left(A+B\right)\ne det\left(A\right)+det\left(B\right)$

stoic pythonBOT
north sierra
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@solemn lotus

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but $det\left(AB\right)=det\left(A\right)det\left(B\right)$

stoic pythonBOT
dusky epoch
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\det

north sierra
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oops lol thx!

wintry steppe
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could anyone give me a hint about this?

gleaming knot
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Need context for "indices"

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and the definition of $T_a^b$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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vector space of tensors

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@gleaming knot

gleaming knot
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I've never used this notation before

wintry steppe
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wait no

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@gleaming knot

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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it's swapped in the book tho

gleaming knot
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I feel like upper index should represent duals too

wintry steppe
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it's preference i guess

gleaming knot
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Ok so it looks like the only thing you are asked to check is that the trace of a sum of two functions is the sum of the traces of the two functions?

wintry steppe
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huh

gleaming knot
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Seems like it was defined for you with no issues, the domain and codomain are right, so you just have to check linearity?

wintry steppe
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i don't really get what the trace is doing here

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is it identifying the trace of a tensor with an endomorphism and taking the normal trace of that

gleaming knot
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Looks like it's taking "componentwise" trace

wintry steppe
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but then wouldn't that be a map from $T^{k+1}_{l+1}(V) \to T^1_1 (V)$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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No, it's still a function of the other variables

wintry steppe
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oh

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wait so what's with this

gleaming knot
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what stopped me from understanding this is m

wintry steppe
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m

gleaming knot
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Hm let's consider the simplest case

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If $M\in V^*\otimes V$ nad so we write it as $\sum_{k=1}^n \lambda_k\otimes v_k$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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The trace should take $M$ to $\sum_{k=1}^n\lambda_k(v_k)$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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So $F^{m}_m$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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that's gotta be special notation for "evaluation" or something

wintry steppe
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it's Einstein notation

gleaming knot
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like combine the indices labeled m with the <V^*, V> canonical pairing

wintry steppe
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$\sum^n_{m=1} F_{mm} = F^m_m$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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oh so m is a dummy variable

wintry steppe
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indeed

gleaming knot
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what does $F_{11}$ mean for example (taking the first term in the sum)

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Wasn't $F$ an element of $V^*\otimes V$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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$F = F(\varphi^{j_1}, \hdots, \varphi^{j_{l+1}}, E_{i_1}, \hdots E_{i_{k+1}})\varphi^{j_1} \otimes \hdots \otimes \varphi^{j_{l+1}} \otimes E_{i_1} \otimes \hdots \otimes E_{i_{k+1}}$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Hm shouldn't it be the dual basis for the simple tensor

wintry steppe
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wait that's the other way around

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but wait what

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oh swap the order

gleaming knot
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Well I understood what you wrote as defining how to understand an element of $(V^)^m\otimes V^n$ as a function on $V^m\otimes (V^)^n$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Just take the function which when evaluated on $w$ is the component of $w^*$ in its expansion as a tensor

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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uuuuh notation

gleaming knot
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Yep I'm using math notation

wintry steppe
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indeed

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ok wait

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if $F \in T^{l+1}_{k+1} (V)$, then $\tr F$ is identified with the trace of an $\Bar{F} \in \text{End}(V)$, since for finite dimensional $V$, $\text{End}(V)$ is iso to $T^1_1 (V)$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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I feel like the phrase "fixing the rest of the variables" needs to be in there somewhere

wintry steppe
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brb ree

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ye and then you have those two empty slots

gleaming knot
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ya

wintry steppe
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so $\tr: T^{l+1}{k+1} (V) \to T^1_1 (V) \to T^{l}{k} (V)$

gleaming knot
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That doesn't make sense

wintry steppe
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wait no that's dumb

gleaming knot
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A map like that would lose so much information

wintry steppe
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i kinda get the idea

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but how would i prove this is well defined

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aaaaaa

gleaming knot
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I don't see any possible issues that could prevent it from being well defined o_O

wintry steppe
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ok

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lemme do latex

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$(tr Q)^{j_1, \hdots, j_l }{i_1, \hdots i_k} = Q^{j_1, \hdots, j_l m}{i_1, \hdots i_k, m}$

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fuck i need tensor in my preamble

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Let me express it in math notation

wintry steppe
gleaming knot
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$\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq d}e_i\otimes e_j^\otimes A_{ij}$ represents a general element of $V^{\otimes n}\otimes (V^)^{\otimes m}$

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where I picked out a basis $e_i$ of one of the $V$ factors and the dual basis $e_j^$ of one of the $V^$ factors

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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ok and $d$ is the dimension of $V$

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And trace takes that to $\sum_{1\leq i\leq d} A_{ii}$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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looks like a pumped up matrix

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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well $A_{ij}$ is a tensor of rank $(m-1,n-1)$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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wait what

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isn't it just a component

gleaming knot
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I combined the remaining components together

wintry steppe
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i don't get this part

gleaming knot
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I wrote $V^{\otimes n}\otimes (V^)^{\otimes m}$ as $V\otimes V^\otimes (V^{\otimes(n-1)}\otimes(V^*)^{\otimes(m-1)})$

wintry steppe
stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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in order to pick out the factors being traced out

wintry steppe
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wut

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but the vector space tensor prod doesn't commute

gleaming knot
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I'm writing a tensor product of vector spaces itself

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They're isomorphic

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like I'm just reordering the factors for convenience

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I'm not changing anything

wintry steppe
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i think my knowledge of tensor products is screwing me here

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this is how it was defined

gleaming knot
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So in the last representation, a generic element is of the form $\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq d}e_i\otimes e_j^\otimes A_{ij}$ for $(e_i)$ a basis of $V$, $(e_i^)$ the dual basis to $(e_i)$, and $A_{ij}\in V^{\otimes(n-1)}\otimes(V^*)^{\otimes(m-1)}$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Ah yes I view elements of a tensor product as linear combinations of pure tensors

wintry steppe
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wut

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explain plz

gleaming knot
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If $V$ and $W$ are vector spaces, then $V\otimes W$ is the vector space spanned by symbols $v\otimes w$ for $v,w\in V$ subject to relations $(v_1+v_2)\otimes w=v_1\otimes w+v_2\otimes w$ and so on

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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ah

gleaming knot
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With these relations, a basis of $V\otimes W$ is obtained by tensoring each pair of basis element of $V$ with a basis element of $W$

wintry steppe
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this makes sense

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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ah this does make sense

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so they do 'commute' in this case

gleaming knot
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Well

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$V\otimes W\cong W\otimes V$ via the map $v\otimes w\mapsto w\otimes v$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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but them commuting would mean all bilinear maps are symmetric

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ok no

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wait so then what was the reordering thing above

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sorry ee

gleaming knot
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Commuting means $v\otimes w=w\otimes v$ which isn't true

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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like

wintry steppe
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ye

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i got it

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they don't commute

gleaming knot
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I'm just rearranging the function's arguments so to speak

wintry steppe
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oh i see what you did up there

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right i got that

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so i get the first part

gleaming knot
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I wrote that to show that it's self-evidently a linear map

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because if I add it to another similar expression but with $B_{ij}$ then it just takes it to the sum of $A_{ii}$ + $B_{ii}$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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well defined means basis independent tho

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how would i show that that is basis independent

gleaming knot
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ooo

wintry steppe
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i think

gleaming knot
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Oh I have it

wintry steppe
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writing it like this may be helpful

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but idk

gleaming knot
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Write a generic element as $\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq n}a_i\otimes b_j\otimes A_{ij}$ for any arbitrary basis $a_i$ and $b_i$ of $V$ and $V^*$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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The formula is that it takes it to $\sum_{1\leq i,j\leq n}\langle a_i,b_j\rangle A_{ij}$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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before, we had a basis and the dual basis so the only surviving terms were the diagonal terms

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Hm

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Let's take it one step further

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Treat $V\otimes V^*$ as $\End(V)$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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We take $f\otimes A\mapsto \tr(f)\otimes A$ and extend by linearity

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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what if i just proved $F^{j_1, \hdots, j_l m}{i_1, \hdots, i_k m} = F^{g_1, \hdots, g_l m}{q_1, \hdots, q_k m}$ by means of F's transformation rule

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Hm you could do that

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I was doing it the mathy way which is to provide a description of the map that doesn't refer to any basis at all whatsoever

wintry steppe
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you do your thing first

gleaming knot
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I think I already did

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$f\otimes A\mapsto \tr(f)\otimes A$, done

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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no basis in sight

wintry steppe
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what

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oh

gleaming knot
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$f\in\End(V)\cong V\otimes V^*$ and $A$ is an arbitrary rank $(n-1,m-1)$ tensor

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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àh

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that's pretty cool

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ty for that

gleaming knot
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Yey

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Dam this brought to explicit knowledge something I had always "known" but never actually known

wintry steppe
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i need to be better at maff

gleaming knot
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That $\tr\colon\End(V)\to F$ \textbf{is} the same thing as the canonical pairing $\langle\cdot,\cdot\rangle\colon V\otimes V^*\to F$

stoic pythonBOT
urban bough
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Is the eigendecomposition of a PD matrix always it’s SVD?

gleaming knot
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I wanna say yes, SVD of a diagonalizable square matrix is the same thing as the eigendecomposition

urban bough
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Me too

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But I dunno for sure

vast torrent
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can someone please suggest a video teaching QR factorization? There are a lot of math videos on youtube and I don't know which channels are the best or most liked

lone quail
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Does anyone know any good books on conics and quadrics in linear algebra?

charred stirrup
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if two matrices are row equivalent, are they the same matrix? and in turn, have the same RREF?

dusky epoch
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if two matrices are row equivalent, are they the same matrix?
no not necessarily
and in turn, have the same RREF?
yes

minor galleon
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Is there a condition that tells us when the inverse of a 3 x3 matrix satisfies the characteristic equation?

dusky epoch
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????

north sierra
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lol

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what

vast torrent
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Maybe you're saying that

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If Chi(A) is the characteristic polynomial of A

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When is Chi(A-¹)=0

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That's my best guess

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If ChiA=a + bx + cx²+dx³, ChiA-¹=d+cx+bx²+ax³ @minor galleon

minor galleon
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yeah thats what im saying

vast torrent
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I dunno how to tell by looking at the mtx

timber minnow
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you have to ask a question to get an answer :p

native lodge
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From the given equations, it’s not clear at all what the solution is, or if there is one.

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Instead we’ll write the system in matrix form, and tack on the solutions in the augmented matrix

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Then we perform elimination

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We get to our upper triangular form and now we can see what the solutions are

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The formal procedure is called Gaussian elimination

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No, upper triangular form means there are zeros below the entries of the main diagonal

lone quail
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another option would be, without any elimination (this is a more thoeretical approach):

  1. find the rank of the matrix made by just the coefficients of the equations
  2. find the rank of the matrix made by that matrix + the constants
    3)the difference in rank between the original matrix and the starting space represents the number of solutions
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  1. this is true if the rank of both matrices is the same
native lodge
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How would you be able to tell the rank by just looking at the coeff. matrix?

lone quail
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finding the determinant

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if 0, try find a smaller 2x2 matrix with non zero determinant

native lodge
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How can I tell between rank of 1 or 2? That’s possible for a 3x3

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Oh, you said it above

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But for the moment, he’s not there yet, lol. So elimination it is.

lone quail
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yeah, thing is they never taught us elimination xd

native lodge
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For the first column you’ll have to zero out the all entries below it, since the first entry of column 1 is on the main diagonal.

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Yes

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There’s no other choice

charred stirrup
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when you're trying to find the determinant of a matrix, is it advisable to row reduce and make some 0 elements and then apply cofactor expansion?

vast torrent
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@charred stirrup ri->ri+crj doesn't change the determinant but the other operations do

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Replacing a row with a row+constant times another row

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Switching 2 rows changes the sign of the determinant

charred stirrup
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i know interchanging a row makes adds a (-1), but there is more?

vast torrent
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Multiplying a single row by a constant multiplies the determinant of that constant

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Nonzero constant of course

charred stirrup
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yup

vast torrent
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Lastly

charred stirrup
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what is the rule for scaling the whole matrix?

vast torrent
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Since det(A)=det(A^t), you can do column operations too

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Good question. You tell me.

charred stirrup
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its that project website

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i forget

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1 sec

vast torrent
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Nooo

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Use your brain

charred stirrup
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but i document R

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lol jokes

vast torrent
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That is only true for 2x2

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Tell me the general case of det(cA)

charred stirrup
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if we do each row, and there are n rows

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c^n is my intuitive guess

vast torrent
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That's a good guess

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The proof would be by induction

charred stirrup
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omg

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u mean that k+1 stuff

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?

vast torrent
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But i wont make you do induction lol

charred stirrup
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no more

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brain hurt

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calc 1 sucked

vast torrent
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Yeah "that k+1 stuff"

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Hah, it's not a calc thing

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It comes up a lot

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Hmm, can you do it without induction? Thinking

charred stirrup
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the only proof i know other than induction is proof by necessity

vast torrent
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I don't know that term

charred stirrup
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if it weren't true someone smarter than me would have noticed it before me

vast torrent
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-_-

charred stirrup
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btw, is my c^n guess wrong? I really dont know if im missing a factor somewhere

vast torrent
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It's right

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You can argue geometrically

charred stirrup
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good

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in stats they sneak in a -1 somewhere and it always messes me up

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but thank you alot

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i still cant find the website

vast torrent
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The volume of aparallelipiped is scaled in each of its dimensions when you grow or shrink the whole thing

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What website

charred stirrup
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it has all the properties of the determinant for matrix

vast torrent
charred stirrup
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my geometric interpretation only goes as far as the basic parallelepiped made from e1, e2, and e3

vast torrent
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So go to 3d

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If i have 1 liter of air in a balloon

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And i double the air in the balloon i blow air into the balloon until the diameter is twice as wide

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What happens to the volume?

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,w volume of a sphere

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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The radius doubles

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So the volume grows by 2^3

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Because of the a^3

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Wait

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Aaaahhhh

charred stirrup
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I thought litres of air is V

vast torrent
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That's not how balloons work i meant

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You blow air into it until its diameter is twice as long

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Sorry sorry sorry

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Fixed, sorry to confuse you

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That's related to why ants can carry things so much heavier than themselves

charred stirrup
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hey

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I think I am realizing what u were trying to teach me earlier

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i didnt even know

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for the c^n thing

vast torrent
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Good to know i occassionally teach things successfully

charred stirrup
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if you were to multiply each row by k, one at a time

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it really is the same effect as c^n

vast torrent
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Yesssss

charred stirrup
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i feel like there is a mathematician rolling in their grave because i dont know the name of that property

vast torrent
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Who says it has a name

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Idk a name

charred stirrup
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nice

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if someone brilliant like u dont know then nobody needs to

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literally feel my brain cell count growin

quartz compass
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another way to prove it is

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det(cA)=det(c*I*A) = det(c*I)*det(A) = c^n det(A)

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since det(c*I) is just multiplied by the cs on the diagonal

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I guess in some sense you could call factoring out a c from each column or row as one aspect of the determinant being a multilinear operator, being linear in each of the columns, if you are super desperate to name it haha

vast torrent
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Homogeneity of order n

north sierra
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if i have a matrix

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and i want to say like U1 = the first column of the matrix, U2 = second column of the matrix

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how do i write the first column of the matrix... mathematically ?

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hmm i could write like am1 maybe

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am2

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am3

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...

charred stirrup
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@north sierra U1 = [1st entry, 2nd entry, .... , nth entry]

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and by entries i mean the entries down the column you want to write out

dreamy cedar
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@charred stirrup nooo this is Patrick

wintry steppe
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trying to prove $\Phi: \text{End}(V) \to T^1_1 (V): A \to \Phi A(\omega, X) := \omega(AX)$ is an isomorphism

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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Got the linear part

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got to $(A-B)(X) = 0$ when I was trying to prove it was injective

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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Not sure what to do then

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Then I guess subjectivity would follow from rank nullity

desert void
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So here's a really sticker for me

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My girlfriend gave me a situation and I'm having a hard time figuring it out

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Wait this isn't where I ask

wintry steppe
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<@&286206848099549185> ^ been >15 mins

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but wait is $\dim T^1_1 (V) = \dim \text{End}(V)$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Find an inverse

wintry steppe
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aaaaaaaah

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I proved it’s injective

gleaming knot
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Ok it reduces to constructing a vector from a functional $\func f {V^*} k$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Which is only possible if $\dim V<\infty$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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so that suggests you have to invoke a basis to construct this vector

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well anyway

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$\dim(V^*\otimes V)=n^2=\dim(\End(V))$ so you're done

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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Wait how

gleaming knot
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I'm using $n$ as the dimension of $V$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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ye but why $n^2$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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which side are you unsure of equaling $n^2$?

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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both

gleaming knot
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ok the left side is a result of the fact that dimensions multiply when you take tensor product

wintry steppe
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Ah yes

gleaming knot
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the right side is a result of the fact that the space of $n\times n$ matrices has dimension $n^2$

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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is $\End(V)$ a vector space?

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Yes

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whoa that's weird

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How do you not have \End in your commands

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Do you have a messed up preamble?

wintry steppe
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over what field

gleaming knot
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over the same field as the one V is over

wintry steppe
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idk I’ve never touched my preamble

gleaming knot
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I only touched mine to add \usepackage[shortlabels]{enumitem}

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which I'm sure does not have \End in it

wintry steppe
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forgive me for sounding nooby but isn’t commutativity of multiplication a vs axiom

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wait no it’s not

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that’s on the field right

gleaming knot
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Vector spaces only have scalar multiplication but not multiplication of two vectors

wintry steppe
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ye got it

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silly me

vast torrent
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@wintry steppe

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Are you sure you're a scientist

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You seem pretty mathy ;)

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Come to the light side

wintry steppe
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I’m trying lol

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So then it’s an iso by rank nullity

vast torrent
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The dark side is quicker and easier to make money with,but it ultimately will cost you your soul

wintry steppe
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Indeed

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Math is great

north sierra
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is this a set of vectors ?

vast torrent
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Your proof is fine

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@thin hazel it's correct

gleaming knot
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Why is $\dim(\bR^{10})$ at least 10? Why can't it be less than 10?

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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👀

vast torrent
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Oh snap

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Do you really need to prove R^n has dimension n

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At least *

north sierra
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I would say something like since there are only 6 vectors in the set, it'd be impossible to have 10 pivot rows. thus it wont span R^10

vast torrent
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Lol

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What has he given you

north sierra
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what the heck

gleaming knot
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I think you can prove this statement: If $a_1,\dots,a_n$ are linearly independent in $V$ and $b_1,\dots,b_m$ span $V$, then $n\leq m$. Then apply it to this situation by taking $n=10$ and $a_i$ the standard basis vector, and $m=6$ and $b_i$ your chosen 6 vectors

stoic pythonBOT
vast torrent
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Rank nullity?

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Okay so

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Hmm

north sierra
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damn this is tough

wintry steppe
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rank nullity is op

vast torrent
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I feel.like you should choose a 10x4 matrix of the 6 vectors chosen

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You claim the image of the matrix has dim>=10

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Then nullity has a negative dimension

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Impossible

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weSmart ?

north sierra
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👌

vast torrent
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It's nuking

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As mathematicians say

gleaming knot
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any theorem about matrices seems like it rests on the shoulders of the basic facts about vector spaces

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of which this is one

vast torrent
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Using a super powerful theorem to solve a simple problem is called nuking the problem

gleaming knot
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\begin{Theorem}If $a_1,\dots,a_n$ are linearly independent in $V$ and $b_1,\dots,b_m$ span $V$, then $n\leq m$.\end{Theorem}

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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^ the theorem that leads to this

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(you have to prove the theorem of course)

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😱

vast torrent
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But he uses rank nullity

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Damn

gleaming knot
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ok I worked out the proof

vast torrent
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Of?

gleaming knot
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This is an exercise in arguing that you can replace the supposed spanning set of 6 vectors one by one with 6 standard basis vectors

vast torrent
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Did you not like my nuke

gleaming knot
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at which point you get a contradiction because 6 standard basis vectors obviously don't span $\bR^{10}$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Your nuke is very likely dependent on proving this

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circular proofs are a no go

vast torrent
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Depends what's written on the notes already weSmart

gleaming knot
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Well I personally wouldn't accept a proof of the fact that every number is divisible by some prime number using the fundamental theorem of arithmetic

vast torrent
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But presumably you'd know what prime numbers are

gleaming knot
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The fundamental theorem says every number has a unique decomposition in terms of primes, and therefore even to state it requires you to know that every number has a prime factor

vast torrent
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Whereas saint "doesn't know" what a vector space is

gleaming knot
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Well you can still work out the proof I have in mind using $\bR^{10}$ only

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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No the replacing preserves the hypothesis that the 6 vectors span $\bR^{10}$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Start with writing each standard basis vector $e_1,\dots,e_{10}$ as a linear combination of the 6 hypothetical vectors

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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No no no

wintry steppe
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uh can i send a question here

gleaming knot
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It's a proof by contradiction where you assume that there is a set of 6 vectors which span $\bR^{10}$

wintry steppe
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plz

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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Suppose this set exists and then write each of $e_1,\dots,e_{10}$ in terms of this set. Then you say, ok $e_1$ can replace something, $e_2$ can replace something else, and so on up to $e_6$ then you realize that your assumption turned into the statement that ${e_1,\dots,e_6}$ spans $\bR^{10}$ which is obviously false

stoic pythonBOT
wintry steppe
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ya but idk how to do it with p double prime x

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1a was easy

gleaming knot
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just write out the formula for double prime explicitly

wintry steppe
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do i write it in polynomial form

gleaming knot
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yes

wintry steppe
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so since it is going from P3 to P1

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write it as a subscript 3 cubed a subscript 2 squred such and such

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and double derivative that

north sierra
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how would i do 2 b)

gleaming knot
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Yes 123brocklee exactly

wintry steppe
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for orthogonl

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just find dot product

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of u and v

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and if that equals to 0

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it is going to be mutually orthogonal i believe

north sierra
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2 b)

wintry steppe
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oh im retarded

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mb

gleaming knot
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You gonna have to solve some equations

wintry steppe
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its gonna be in parametric form

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free variables

gleaming knot
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one might suggest "cross product" but you need to write down the equations to prove that the space of such vectors is 1-dimensional

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😆

wintry steppe
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alright ill do 1b and ill brb

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and can i check with u guys if its right

north sierra
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r u guys talkign about my Q?

gleaming knot
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ya

north sierra
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oh

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so how would i do this?

gleaming knot
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np!

north sierra
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i dont think ive learnt cross product

gleaming knot
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You can write down the condition that a vector $(x,y,z)$ is orthogonal to both of the given vectors with 2 linear equations in $x,y,z$

stoic pythonBOT
gleaming knot
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just solve them

wintry steppe
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im assuming i did this right

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which came out as not being a linear transformation for 1b

north sierra
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how to flip

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rotate

wintry steppe
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uh

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shit yea mb

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ill send a better pic

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Or does the constant in the end matter if it doesnt equal

north sierra
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my prof has this answer

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idk how he got it

odd yarrow
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is anyone a lin alg tutor here?

gleaming knot
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derivative should be linear

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so should second derivative

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You probably made a silly mistake somewhere

north sierra
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what

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where are you getting derivative from????

gleaming knot
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Answering the other guy's questions

north sierra
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oh

wintry steppe
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Oh okay

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It hust the constant thta doesnt equal

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But the 6x equals

gleaming knot
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The constant should equal too

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Unfortunately I can't read your work

wintry steppe
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Alright will look over again

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Thx for help bro

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Much appreciated

north sierra
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what even was your question?

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thought that pic was answering my Question lol

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im so lost

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but i couldn't read it

wintry steppe
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u guys know how to diagonlize a matrix

odd yarrow
gleaming knot
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if you want to blow your mind with an application of this, see (or do yourself) the linear algebraic derivation of the closed form of the Fibonacci sequence

wintry steppe
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last question

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how the fuck do you the find the distance of x^3 plus x^4

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for 2a

gleaming knot
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d is the bottom right entry of the matrix

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not the distance function

wintry steppe
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how do you show that is a kernel of the linear transformation though

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because i need to show that kernel is 0 which is a nullspace

gleaming knot
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The words in your question don't make sense

wintry steppe
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im just trying to ask, how do you find the kernel of T given that polynomial of P4

gleaming knot
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find which matrices get sent to the zero polynomial

wintry steppe
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alright

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im taking the class rn and u seem to know more than me

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did you already take it or are you taking it rn

north sierra
terse mirage
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so pretty much my entire class got the last question on our exam wrong

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which is funny because it was basically

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sups A is invertible, find the basis for the null space of A

gleaming knot
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wtf that seems to say more about the teacher

feral mountain
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did the people who got it wrong put {0}?

terse mirage
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Essentially yea

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the book apparently never went over the fact that null is a basis for a point

gleaming knot
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oh nvm

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I thought by "getting it wrong" I thought they didn't know the answer

terse mirage
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I mean

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this teacher was not a great person to teach intro to linear

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so I think a good portion of the students didnt even understand what a basis was

copper mason
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what's a basis lol

gleaming knot
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a minimal spanning set, or alternatively, a maximal linearly independent set

charred stirrup
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is the only elementary row operation that doesnt affect the determinant the operation where you add a multiple of another row?

dusky epoch
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yes

charred stirrup
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nice thank you

gleaming knot
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No

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Swapping rows or columns an even distance apart as well

dusky epoch
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no

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any single column swap flips it

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no matter what cols they are

gleaming knot
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I knew that >.<

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All transpositions are odd

charred stirrup
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is this because you make a row/col of 0s, and then if you expand along there you will get a 0 determinant?

dusky epoch
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well that's one way of establishing it yes

lone quail
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Why does it say that the set {0,1} is a field with respect to addition and multiplication?

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Doesnt a field need an opposite element eg -1?

dusky epoch
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in the field with two elements, -1 is 1

lone quail
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Im not sure i get what you mean

dusky epoch
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0 and 1 shouldn't be taken as representing the real numbers 0 and 1

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not in this context

lone quail
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Ok so what is it representing exactly?

dusky epoch
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they don't represent anything

lone quail
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I mean the set

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What set is it

dusky epoch
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it's just a set with two elements

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one of which we write with the symbol 0, and the other with the symbol 1

lone quail
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So the symbol 1 includes its opposite?

dusky epoch
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the element denoted with 1 IS its own opposite.

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because 1 + 1 = 0.

lone quail
dusky epoch
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yes.

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the set {0,1} forms a field if it is equipped with the following addition and multiplication operations:
0+0 = 1+1 = 0; 0+1 = 1+0 = 1
0*0 = 1*0 = 0*1 = 0; 1*1 = 1

lone quail
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Ok cool i got it

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Thanks

charred stirrup
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why are the scalars only between 0 and 1?

gray dust
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P is the parallelogram spanned by vectors a & b. P has side lengths of ||a|| & ||b||. to fill in all the points in P, you make a set of linear combos of a & b, ie sa+tb where s & t are real scalars. to make sure you don't include points outside P, you limit s & t to between 0 to 1

charred stirrup
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ooo

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and the vectors a and b can be of any length, but the scalar [0,1] ensures it stays within the span(a,b)

gray dust
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span{a,b} is an infinitely big plane, equivalent to letting s & t take on ALL real values

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limiting s & t to between 0 to 1 restricts the linear combos to points inside P

charred stirrup
vast torrent
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You don't swap colunns in gaussian elimination

charred stirrup
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thanks big dad

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gonna ace this exam

vast torrent
charred stirrup
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i know D is the diagonal of A's eigenvalues, but what property relates them in this way? A^n makes D^n

dusky epoch
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consider explicitly multiplying out AA, AAA, AAAA, etc

charred stirrup
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I guess I can see the matrix getting bigger if our entries are positive

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that affects the eigen values by that factor?

hallow bobcat
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This is simpler than you think
As Ann said, for example:

$A^3 = AAA = (PDP^{-1})(PDP^{-1})(PDP^{-1}) = \ldots$

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dusky epoch
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^

charred stirrup
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$A^3 = AAA = (PDP^{-1})^3 = \ldots$

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