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Okay, so. My book shows set builder notation as:
But goes on to show sets like {2n : n ∈ N} and {n ∈ N : n is even}. Seeing as anything can be on either side, then a set builder expression is really just a series of rules that some item in a set must satisfy. Is there a point to making a distinction between the sides like this?
i mean i think technically the second one would be written {n:n in N, n is even}, but if it gives you that one as an example you can probably do what you want lol
actually i think the first part is kinda whete you "use" the variables, and the second is where you "define" them, but I'm not completely sure formally
if it's clear what the set is, ur probably doing it fine
Haaa
So set builder can be used however, its just to make a set definition more clear?
well the n in N can be seen as a rule or an expression but thats not always the case
e.g. {x in R : x > 5} is fine but {x > 5 : x in R} would be a little weird although everyone would get it
same with your thing actually {n in N : 2n} would be weird
because 2n is not a rule you would have to write it as "n is even" or something for it to become a rule
Hm... though its a bit clunky when the left side is a unevalulated expression
Because to "get" what is inside the set, you would have to take the elements that satisfy the predicate on the right side and plug it into the left side; going backwards
I dont understand what you mean can you give an example?
Well, to get the elements inside the set {2n : n in N}, you would take all natural numbers, and plug them into 2n right? ({1, 2, 3, ...} -> {2, 4, 6, ...}) You can't take "all elements of 2n and evaluate is n in N", because to get the "elements of 2n", you need n
ah I understand yeah but thats just how it is
Bleh. So I guess sematically, it would be "take the unknown blob of 2n, and keep only those for which n in N is true"
Which is weird, because that implies that numbers keep how they're generated with them
O' well, this isn't programming, haha
Its just common notation formally/historically I would always use {x in S : P(x)} where S is a set and P a predicate
so I would also prefer the {n in N : n is even}
are you finished w ur q?
yep
Are you good at math
Nope.
Just learning it for fun and Haskell :P
Also, #math-discussion / #chill
Are u higher than a grade 8 level
@ornate quest
Cuz i am having a lot of problems
someone pls tell me how i solve 4x = (x+3) + 6-5
or 6-5 + (x+3) = 4x
does x+3 means x3????+? i not rememvber
pls and thank you :>>:>>:
pls and tehank yoeou :>>.<
Someone pls help me
I am needing of help pls
👍
What are the two lines I see surrounding a vector? |v|
Does that mean absolute value or magnitude?
or something else?
Magnitude irrc
I'm doing some research and there's no clear answer. People are saying that double parallel lines are magnitude
$\norm{v}$ is the normal thing for magnitude, but single bars can also mean it
bunny
Ooh, we have latex on here. Nice.
if your source doesnt specify absolute value it means magnitude
Ah okay cool thank you guys
wait latex isnt something this discord made?
c-can't tell if there is a /s there :P
whats a/s?
sarcasm
oh no there isnt
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic
nope
O-oh
LaTeX is everywhere, haha
WHAT
And even half the textbooks
Yeah?
lol
didnt even know
After reading enough stuff, you can spot latex on sight :P
https://dontasktoask.com @alpine sable
There isn't even a question on there though.
thats what I thought too
what is the question, what do you want to find
Nono, the thing is, there isn't a question on either of those pictures.
Ok so
I have to find the price for this
This is a summer school homework and I don’t understand
@ornate quest
@sleek elbow
Oh so you need to find the measurements of the medal and than find out the price from there?
i
dms real quick
okay so first you gotta find out all the 3 lengths, you do that by dividing the corresponding length of the crest by 20, because the dimensions of the medals are 1/20 of the dimensions of the crest.
The example already there would be 2.4m / 20 = 240cm / 20 = 12cm
After you get all the lengths, you add them up to get the total perimeter of one medal and than multiply that by 20 to get the perimeter of 20 total medals. From there you multiply by 0.25$ and you get your result.
@alpine sable
I have the solution written out if you want to check your calculation after you are done
WHAT
wait you serious?
thats fucked up
I don’t really care what she does as long as she pays my skool
where do you live, like country?
Canada
I failed the school year at one of the best schools
So
Rip
Can u send a picture of the calculations
is beating your children not illegal in canada?
"beat up" sounds pretty hard to me
yup weird stuff
If I don’t get everything right on ma work I get beat
diciplining children apparently legal in canada 👀
It is
Yea
but tbf, I think it was only banned 20 years ago here in germany
Oof
okay so try it for yourself first (the exercise) @alpine sable
with the steps I told you
Ok I’ll try
and tell me if you get stuck
bro, if ur mom hits u gotta tell someone
if its legal and not too much he cant do anything probably
thats like when teachers used to hit their students
probably
I googled
Well I got 18 as my number on the question
it is if its dicipline apparently
I think it’s wrong
18 for what?
The length
length of what
And 1167$ for money
It’s prob wrong
But I tried
Am I right or wrong
where does the 6.4 come from?
oh that works too apparently
let me read the rest...
im not sure what you did, but if 0.32 or 32cm is the perimeter of one of the medals
you need to get the perimeter of 20 off those
from there
well get it
dw
so the perimeter of one medal is 32cm
whats the perimeter of 20 medals?
I don know
20 * 32
Oh yeah
which is?
640 I geuss
yup
so thats the total length you need
in cm
so now you multiply that by the price
and tell me what you get
hmmm
Is it 160
what you guys doing?
I believe so
answering his question
what is it?
look above
this was my calculation btw
80cm / 20 = 4cm
320cm / 20 = 16cm
240cm / 20 = 12cm
So the three lengths of the medal are 4cm, 16cm and 12cm.
The sum of those is 32cm and you need 20 medals, so you need 20 * 32cm total which is 640cm
If each cm costs 0.25$, the cost will be 640 * 0.25$ which is 160$
@alpine sable
oh nice
Hi.
If the median, unique mode, mean, and range of the five integers 2, a, 5, b, and c are all equal, where 2 <=a <=5 <=b <=c, what is the value of abc?
I don't know how to do it... very confusing.
hmmm that sounds a little too easy
why?
What about da crest
what about it?
idk it sounds a little lower than 7th grade stuff
well wdym by that? Do you think the question is too easy or my answer is wrong?
It’s cuz Canada is easier than usa
we just needed the crest to get the sides of the medal if I understood correctly
no im saying is that the question looks like a 6th grade question which means he underage for discord
oh idc 😄
kk
still gonna help even if he is
kk
If the median, unique mode, mean, and range of the five integers 2, a, 5, b, and c are all equal, where 2 <=a <=5 <=b <=c, what is the value of abc?
sorry for repost btw bc i have like 5 minutes to finish this before i hand it to my mom...
why does everyones mom pressure today, btw I cant help, I have no idea, sorry
ohh ok
<@&286206848099549185>
I have autism big boy
So I get easier math
And I’m 13
what have you tried?
oh sry
@steel palm i guess they all have to be 24cm for that to happen
you cant have an equilateral triangle which is right...
yeah
i misunderstod sry
if you remove the same length, x, from each pipe, they have lengths 24-x,31-x and 38-x
of which form a pythagorean triple
but the same length has to be cut
yes
from each
yeah, you read the question
210
Just gave the answer cuz u seem in a hurry
I made a = 5, b = 6 and c = 7 because this keeps 5 as the mode (occurs the most in list), 5 as the median (center of list), 5 as mean (2+5+5+6+7 = 25/5 = 5) and 5 as range,7-2 = 5 thus abc = 567 = 210
Generally how do you find if a mtrix is onto? I know it must span R^m but how do u prove that?
Nevermind
hehehe
stooopid
<@&286206848099549185> Is there a linear transformation T such that it is onto and R^1000 --> R^1001
Do you remember what function compositions are?
isn't this 7 sqrt 2?
Now sure what you mean by B, but function composition would solve your first picture
If by B you mean 0, then you'd be wrong 😛
he means option 2
Yeah, then he'd be wrong
is it option 4?
WAIT
no
yeah
for the second one
is it option 4
@-@
tbh I think its option 1
wait no
idk
nvm not option 4
For the second one, it starts at -3, up to 3 in (9-x^2) then 3 on the rest. Obviously x-3 is increasing. So we know that 3 -> infinity is increasing.
Due to the square, overalping a negative, you get a parabolla centered on 0. Parabolla has an increasing side (from -3 to 0) and decreasing (from 0 to 3)
yeah I think its option 2
@sterile falcon where on khan academy did you see this lesson?
if so, may you provide a link
i need help with something
Calculate the total surface area, r = 6.9 m and, a = 10 m
just plug everything into the formula and simplify
and how would it be
area of the top and bottom is two circles
area of the side is a rectangle with height a and base the circumference of the circle
,w handwritten style surface area cylinder r = 6.9, h = 10
I don't know if I'm doing it right
you seem to be off by a factor of 100
oh
aw it didnt work
Why does the square root of x^2 = the square root of 25 simplify to plus or minus 5? Specifically why plus or minus 5?
thanks
Think about it this way. 5^2=25 we all agree
for (-5)^2 rewrite as (-1)^2*(5^2)=1 * 25 = 25
so you are squaring the negative one separately. And then u get it
cause sqrt(144) is 12
since sqrt(x) maps from [0,inf) to [0,inf)
you are confused with sqrt x^2
@violet ore because by definition square root function of a positive integer is defined as the positive root, not the negative
thats how mathematicians decided to do it, for convenience
why is any rows sum in a triangle of consecutive odd numbers is the cube of the row number?
1 * 1 * 1 = 1
2 * 2 * 2 = 3 + 5
3 * 3 * 3 = 7 + 9 + 11
4 * 4 * 4 = 13 + 15 + 17 + 19
and so on
is that the pascal triangle?
no
nvm lmao
No clue on arithmetic but lemme try and explain
x^2*x=x^3
@slow hedge
If you notice there the sum of any row can be written as x*x^2
so for row 4 for eg.
4^2=16
and 4*4^2=4^3 as required
now look at the numbers (15 and 17 are one off 16 so they balance out to 2*4^2)
and 13 and 19 are 3 off 16 so they balance out to 4^2*2
so 2* 4^2+2* 4^2=4^2*4=4^3. This can be applied to any row
hope this helps
I don't know how to prove it formally
maybe write it as a set of xs
Can you simplify $\frac{a^{100} + b^{100}}{a^{96} + b^{96}}$?
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wow this is cool
can someone help with this
im just gonna repost ur answers so its way easier for you
- srry for the super late response
how did you get 576*h as the volume?
why 24? 🤔
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
how do you know that the width is the same as the length tho? @topaz scaffold
Cause it says that there is a square base
channel is in use
Preferably in another channel
ok so
Noted
i get that h(t=0)=0 is saying that when the time is 0
the height is 0
but how do we derive h(t) = 8t from that?
Yep
So $\dot h(t)$ is 8
RipeOrange
right
So if we do $\int 8 ,dt$ we get h(t) 8t + c
whats int/dt?
RipeOrange
sorry im in alg 2 😅
is this a calc question?
right
So we let t be the time passed in minutes
So our height as a function of time would be h(t) = 8t
Yep
ohh i see
From here we can plug this into our volume equation
Well that's where I messed up in my original calculations 😅
ohh haha no worries 
In 3 dimensions, when you scale a side down by an amount s, the entire object gets scaled down by s^3
So you actually need to divide 4608t by 12^3
To convert to feet
You should get $\frac{8t}{3}$
RipeOrange
Yea we could have done everything in feet
I just decided to use inches in the beginning
ohhh
wait
yeah they use normal feet for the square base
i see
8t/3 then yeah thats right
So V = 8t/3, and then we set V = 64? @topaz scaffold
wait but isnt it an issue that 8t/3 is normal feet and 64 is cubic feet?
or does that not matter
@glass lichen ur smart do u mind if i tag u 😅
Yes I do mind
M@ocean seal#cô0796
W uu Z a loo muumuus I no
what are the odds of getting a clump of n ones:
in a x * y grid if the odds of a one is 50% (o)
first off I assume I need the formula for the amount of corners, sides and middle squares
x must be greater than or equal to 2 and same with y
so corners = 4
sides = 2((x-2) + (y-2))
middle squares = (x-2)*(y-2)
now I'm lost
\begin{equation*} \left{ \begin{aligned} &x+2y-3z=4 \ & 3x -y +5z=2\ &4x+y+(a^2-14)z=a+2 \end{aligned} \right. \end{equation*}
Luis Henrique Schwab
Determine the value of a so the linear system has no solution
Can someone give me a hand?
is this a linear algebra course?
yes
in that case to have no solution it needs to row reduce into something that ends in
0 0 0 | C, where C is not 0
which means 0x+0y+0z is not equal to 0
which is no solutions
thanks, got it. I used gaussian elimination but was conceptually confused
that was the intended solution
got to 0x+0y+(a^2-16)z=a-4 but didnt know how to get from there
for the first one i got
x int: 3/4
y int: -3/5
but the stupid graph wants whole numbers
what should i put as the points, i need a straight line?
<@&286206848099549185>
H
how can i get the vector perpendicular to another vector?
can you draw both the lines?
it just lets u pick the points
only whole numbers
@pearl marlin
wont even let me round
hmm you alredy solved this
try to draw this in desmos
these are parallel lines
8t/3 is in cubic feet if you work out all the units
Correct
ohhhh dividing it by 12^3 made it into cubic feet?
i see
That just converts from cubic inches to cubic feet
No problem
PART 1
y= 3log3(x-4)
- has a vertical stretch by 3
- vertical asymptote is x=4
PART 2
- after the transformations are applied the new equation will be: y= 3log3(x-3)+2
- the domain of the new equation is: x⋲〈3, + ∞〉, you can find the domain from the equation of a log function by finding where the equation is defined. The domain of a logarithmic function are all the values for x in which x-3 of the logarithm is positive.
x-3>0 - move the constant to the right hand sign and change the sign ↓
x>3 - find the intersection ↓
x > 3
x⋲R
x⋲〈3, + ∞〉
can somebody lmk if my answer to this question is right pls
bro we cant give answers to ur homework, test and exams question
sorry
@left echo
dude i have the answer just someone lmk if its right
and its not a test or exam
Could be a hw question
wait lemme open rules
if its a hw question then its allowed
lemme see the question
i already sent it up there
Channel occupied rn
So you already done part 1 of question 3?
Ohhh I see
yea
It looks good
alright thanks
Does the function solve the hypotheses of the Mean Value Theorem on the given interval?
f(x)=e^-4x, [0,1]
Yes, f is continuous and differentiable on R, so it is continuous on [0,1] and differentiable on (0,1)
If it satisfies the hypotheses, find all numbers c that satisfy the conclusion of the Mean Value Theorem. (Enter your answers as a comma-separated list)
f'(x)=-4e^-4x
f'(c)=(f(b)-f(a))/(b-a)
f'(c)=e^-4-1
So e^(-4)-1 = -4e^-4x
Help me solve for x
Use natural log
Modular exponentiation 3^65 mod 7 , (1,4 5,10,20,25) ,3^1) mod 7 = 3 , (3^2)^2 mod 7 = 4 m (3^5)^1 mod 7 = 5 , (3^5)^2 mod 7 = 6, (3^10)^2 mod 7 = 2, (3^5)^5 mod 7 =3 ,3 *4 *5 *6 *2 * 3 this isn't making sense to me the remainder is suppose to be 5 but the way I did it which I though was the right way ended up giving me the wrong answer, any help is greatly appreciated . thank you
@topaz scaffold I literally used a website to find the apparently singular value of c and webassign said it was wrong
So you got $e^{-4}-1 = -4e^{-4x}$?
RipeOrange
Correct
,w solve e^{-4}-1 = -4e^{-4x}
It seems to be complex
That seems a little complicated
I think we got a negative input to the natural log
Can you help me solve -4e^(-4x)=e^(-4)-1?
Got that
RipeOrange
Then take the natural log on both sides
You'll get $ln(-\frac{e^{-4}-1}{4}) = -4x$
RipeOrange
Here we see the problem
is that just 1
tf is big
Oof that's not the right thing
RipeOrange
Here
i have 0 idea how to solve from there
Well $\frac{e^{-4}-1}{4}$ is positive
RipeOrange
So the entire thing inside the ln() is negative
And you probably know that ln() isn't defined in the negatives
At least for the real numbers
yea i definitely did know that for sure
So you'll have to go into the complex world to solve this
And I don't think this is what's supposed to happen here
So something must be wrong before this step
I'm not sure what the mean value theorem is
Yes
$-4e^{-4c} = \frac{e^{-4*1} - e^{-4 *0}}{1-0}$
whered you get the 5
RipeOrange
Ah sorry typo
pretty sure thats what i got too
Do you have an answer key?
Something isn't right here
I'm getting c as (1/4) . ln(4/1-e^-4)
How
I'll send the steps
Ehhh
Cause I typed in "solve for c" 😅
No wonder it was using the Lambert W function
Wouldn't ln(4/1-e^-4) still be complex tho?
,w evaluate ln(4/(1-e^-4))
Well nice
this is madness
@opal wyvern is that the answer?
im scared to try cause i got limited attempts
It's basic logarithms if you know LMVT
It's the mean value theorem
What you did so far
I just continued from where you stopped
Check the image I sent
^
Something isn't right tho
Is from step 1 to step 2 accurate?
e^(-4)-1 is negative
Not sure if that exponent should be negative
yes, and the LHS is negative too
Oh yes there
it is, the derivative of e^-4x is -4e^-4x
took ln on both sides
Where did I mess up then? 🤔
you sure lol
Wolfram Alpha has failed me
simplify this and you get 1 - e^-4
yes
@topaz scaffold Can you confirm
Yea
I love how it "simplified" it into something way more complex
Turns out Wolfram Alpha showed the complex answers and didn't show the real ones
Thanks Wolfram
Why do you have ln4-4c from 4e^(-4c)
Now I feel stupid
Took the natural log on both sides
ln(4e^(-4c)) = ln 4 + ln e^-4c = ln 4 - 4c
seems to be the case unless i'm missing something
Alright Im about to click submit
lets see
Wow
It worked
Life is suddenly halfway decent
Aha
Hey guys i have a small question here... if i have x + y = 14 and talking y to the other side.. is it legal to write in after 14? Cuz like for standard froms the variables are always before the numbers soo yeah?
that is true over every field
Wdym over every field?
in addition and subtration, as a numerator, as a denominator, as an exponent
probably elsewhere
every field of numbers where addition is defined as it normally is
-y * 14 = 14 * -y
Ohhh ok ok thank you
You saying like complex numbers and irrational numbers?
How can you possibly solve this
Guess?
Its just a graph no function
ok yea i just guessed lol
it was right
take for example the irrational numbers (10 + sqrt2) and (-sqrt(2))
I was seeing if he meant that or just types of numbers 😅
Those aren't equal (?)
add them
10 (?)
You can easily find the percentage of smokers with cancer to all the smokers
And similarly with the non smokers
By doing #of smokers with cancer/total number of smokers
Same thing with non smokers
Then compare those percentages
It's greater than 5% yea
Maybe compare to the total
That wouldn't make sense tho...
Idk
How do i calculate this ?
there are 3 slots
The 1 slot can contain any of (0,1,2,3,4)
The 2nd slot can contain any of (0, 1,2,3,4,5,6)
The 3rd slot can contain any of (0,1,2,3,4,5,6)
What is the no of combinations possible if repeatation is allowed ?
5*7*7
number of options for the first times number of options for the second times number of options for the third...
ok
<@&286206848099549185> <@&286206848099549185> <@&286206848099549185> can y’all do my exam for me i got $500
Nope
big brrr
Must resist temptation
anyone know linear algebra here?
The tiniest bit
question was If $u,v$ are vectors in $\mathbb{R}^3$ and $||u||=1$, $||v||=2$ then $u\cdot{v}\neq{10}$
jswatj
do you know a particular inequality that bounds |u*v| ?
not at all
Yeah
i said
since |u|=1 then one of its variables has to be -1 or 1
and thus all the rest 0
so i chose one
then did the dot product
but in the second one, theres several cases like one variable can be -2,-1,0,1,2
the vector u = (1/sqrt(2), 1/sqrt(2), 0) also has |u|=1
but in every single case its less than 10
assuming they mean the normal euclidean distance
have you learned Cauchy-Schwarz or AM-GM?
i learned AM-GM
i can use that?!
wait
cauchy-schwarz is like the triangle inequality
wait maybe i have learned that
hold up
no i haven't
😦
since the dot product is \sum u_i v_i, you could use the inequality ab <= 1/2(a^2+b^2) on each term
it won't give you as good a bound as Cauchy-Schwarz but you just have to show |u.v| < 10
actually what definition of dot product do you have
is it \sum u_i v_i or |u||v|sin(theta)
the first one
^
oh yeah cosine not sine
a²-a+1/a²+a+1=3/2 , find a+1/a
Pls help
Can u tell the ans ?
Is the ans 2 or -3/2 or any other ?
@alpine sable
u can literally symbolab that
?
nilesh, we do not give answers here
also you're missing parentheses
did you mean $a^2 - a + \frac{1}{a^2} + a + 1 = \frac{3}{2}$?
Ann
Nope
I was saying a²-a+1 / a²+a+1 = 3/2
thats what ann wrote. 
$\frac{a^2-a+1}{a^2+a+1}=\frac{3}{2}$?
Nonexisty
if you wanted to write $\frac{a^2 - a + 1}{a^2 + a + 1}$, then you should have written \verb|(a^2 - a + 1)/(a^2 + a + 1)| so that it gets read correctly.
Ann
you'll just get $a=-\frac{3\sqrt{5}\pm 5}{2}$
jswatj
in any case! this problem is literally no harder than a quadratic equation.
you can reduce it to one.
Yes
just by doing algebra to it.
What will be the value of a+1/a , I am getting -3/2 is it right ?
no
do you mean $\frac{a+1}{a}$ or $a + \frac{1}{a}$?
Ann
lmaooooo
Second one
wtf
NILESH
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU
when you write fractions in plaintext
you need to use parentheses
just go
i wouldn't be so sure of that
i think you may have messed up
?
:=|
You need to or else people may misunderstood you
no
that is very wrong
How did you do the third step it felt so wrong-
also this is wrong too
🥲
i don't think it reduces
Than how to do this ?
jswatj i'm talking about the whole equation
(a^2 - a + 1)/(a^2 + a + 1) = 3/2
multiply both sides by 2(a^2 + a + 1) to get 2(a^2 - a + 1) = 3(a^2 + a + 1)
do algebraic cleanup to get to a^2 + 5a + 1 = 0
Is it right ?
,rotate
cause he's asking what is $a+\frac{1}{a}$
jswatj
Okay thanks :)
oh
continuing from what i had
a^2 + 1 = -5a
(a^2 + 1)/a = -5
a + 1/a = -5
I am completely stuck in this problem
$0\leq\theta\leq 2\pi, 0\leq z \leq 3, 0\leq r \leq\sqrt{81-z^2}$
Fung
Not sure where I am going wrong
Hello I have a strange question, but I wonder why it is not possible to calculate the logarithm of a negative base. If I have a negative base and
an odd exponent, then the result should be negative so for example:
$(-2)^{3}$
Florian
@restive finch Channel is currently occupied 
Okay, what shoud i do?
Find a question channel that is currently not under use
All good 😄
Ist just fucking basic stuff
Thanks
Going to repost my question above the spam
Not sure why this problem is being marked incorrectly by my hw system, but here are the coords I got: $0\leq\theta\leq 2\pi, 0\leq z \leq 3, 0\leq r \leq\sqrt{81-z^2}$
Fung
<@&286206848099549185>
Any guidance on where I might have gone wrong would be super helpful 😄
Thank you in advance
yes
and i expanded as well
but still
¯_(ツ)_/¯
like after expanding if you take lcm
then lmao
Hmm
or wait
rhs is 0
what if i take the lcm then sent denominator to rhs
sus
numerator = 0
wait lemme try
Oki
Would it be possible to reverse engineer a modified geometric sum function to get the components it is made up of?
Like for example the typical sequence function is
a * (1-r^n)/(1-r) and the components for that would be a + ar + ar^2 + ... + ar^n
But what if I had a function which is
a * (1-r^(n/2))/(1-r)? if it's possible how would I go about attempting to reverse that and find the components? what are some strategies I can use to help with this
no idea what you're talking about
if all you know is the value of $\frac{a(1 - r^{n/2})}{1 - r}$ and nothing else, then you cannot extract from it the values of $a$, $r$ or $n$ on their own
Ann
What I mean is you know how the sequence for a * (1-r^n)/(1-r) a + ar + ar^2 + ... + ar^n right,
So what I'm trying to do is find what a + b + c + d + g + ... x = a * (1-r^(n/2))/(1-r)
maybe they want long division?
That is not what I am looking for
you're not making yourself clear at all
Sorry I do not know the proper vocabulary for this stuff
Hmm, so first let's say I have the geometric sum function I'll call that s(n) and that is a * (1-r^n)/(1-r)
So we know that s(n) = a + ar + ar^2 + ... + ar^n
But in this hypothetical let's say I had no clue s(n) was equal to a + ar^n + ar^2 + ... + ar^n
I only know that it's equal to some sequence that happens n times
How can I go about determining what that repeating sequence is without knowing it beforehand?
you can't
there are many sequences of n terms which add up to a given pre-determined value
I think I'm confused on what you mean by pre-determined value
Because n can be any positive integer, I feel that I need a specific generic sequence
...oh wait
i think i just understood what you were trying to say
you have an unknown sequence $a_1, a_2, \dots$ and a sequence of sums $s_n$ defined as $$s_n = a_1 + a_2 + \dots + a_n$$ for every natural $n$, and you want to recover $a_n$ from $s_n$?
Ann
Yeah that's it
Ann
Hmm well I'm not trying to recover the actual value of 'a' at 'n'
I guess I'm trying to recover the entire sequence so I don't need to use the function s(n) anymore
Instead if I wanted to get s(3) I'd be able to do a + ar + ar^2 + ar^3 because I figured out that the sequence is just ar^(ascending natural number)
But I didn't know that at first, I had to figure it out myself
hghghrhgrhgrh
you asked for the sequence
and yet, when i gave you the formula to determine each term of the sequence,
suddenly it's not what you're looking for
Are you sure what Ann gave you isn't what you're looking for? this sounds exactly like what she gave you. if you have a_n, you have recovered the entire sequence.
Like if you recover a_n=ar^n from s_n=a * (1-r^n)/(1-r), then you can calculate s_n=a_1+a_2+a_3+...a_n=ar^1+ar^2+ar^3+....ar^n
bit of real easy maths but i haven't taken a maths class or done maths in ages... plus im garbage at googling, i can't find a calculator or formula to do this for me
lets say i want to increase 100 by 5%, 50 times... it would be 105, 110.15, 115.7625, etc. etc.
but i dont wanna just increase the answer by 5%, 50 times cus that takes forever
what's an easier way to do this?
,calc 100*1.05^50
Result:
1146.7399785754
so x*(percentage increase)^(however many times)
yes. The idea is that a 5% increase consists of multiplying by 1.05, so doing that 50 times consists of multiplying by 1.05 50 times thus multiplying by 1.05^50
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I think I get what you mean now sneaky, I am trying to rearrange the equation to become just ar^n but get stuck because there's 2 exponents being added together I'm not sure what to do about
so first thing is that your formula is wrong here and it should be a * (1-r^(n+1))/(1-r)
but it will be the same process
sounds like you have something like $a_n=\frac{-ar^{n+1}+ar^n}{1-r}$ but with the indexes moved down 1 because you used that $1-r^n$ formula instead of $1-r^{n+1}$. change it to what you should have with the right formula, then factorise
Sneaky
specifically, factor as much as you can from the numerator and a 1-r will cancel leaving you with ar^n
if you need more guidance after correcting your formula or w/e post your work that far and I'll try to explain further
I agree that it's n+1 instead of n but do you know why half the images on google have 1-r^n
cant speak for the entirety of google but this one for instance is missing a term
should be an ar^n
oh I see
they're treating a as the first term
and we're treating it as the zeroth term
basically
well not basically its literally just that
That factors nicely
does that mean you're done?
nope
ok, show me where you're stuck then.
you cantake a picture or just write it in plaintext
Right so I'm trying to do it with the function s(n) = a * (1-r^(n/2 + 1))/(1-r)
and I get:
(a - ar^(n/2 + 1) - a + ar^(n/2))/(1-r)
(ar^(n/2)-ar^(n/2+1))/(1-r)
ar^(n/2)(1-r)/(1-r)
= ar^(n/2)
I went wrong somewhere
the error is in the first line. should be (a - ar^(n/2 + 1) - a + ar^((n-1)/2+1))/(1-r)
Which is ugly, should be $\frac{a-ar^{\frac{n}{2}+1}-a+ar^{\bold{\frac{n-1}{2}+1}}}{1-r}$
Sneaky
you didnt replace n with n-1 properly
ohh I gotcha I guess I got confused with the fraction
yeah i was confused why it was wrong when i first saw it too tbh
so for this one is it possible to do anything with those exponents other than factor out the +1?
Sure, you can do a very similar factorisation to the last one
if you want you can then factor 1-r on the denominator as (1-sqrt(r))(1+sqrt(r)) and one of those cancels after factoring the numerator
this is what it ends up being if you do all that
if you'd consider that simpler than what you've got go for it
i don't think you can do any "simpler" than that though
(i.e. factor out ar^(n+1)/2 from the numerator)
So there's an algorithm I need ideas for.
The problem: I'll try to not be too vague: Say there are 5 iPhone7's. 10 iPhone8's. They are under the category of iPhones, where we have 15 iPhones total. Similarly, we have other types of phones in different numbers which are further in the category of just phones. We may have laptops, USBs etc too. Kinda like sun in a solar system in a galaxy.
Now, say someone buys an iPhone7, so a specific iPhone7 is automatically assigned to the person. Now, if I want to PHYSICALLY access the phone from the inventory of electronic goods, what should be my approach/algorithm to do so?
If you have any mathematical algorithmic ideas pls ping
I have never learnt mathematical algorithms but I want to shoot a blind dart until one of the geniuses in this DC comes along
I give up. I was just going to say, select phone select iphone select iphone 7
Mathematical algorithm?
This seems like a data structure.
Namely, something akin to a file system.
Hmm I'm pretty confused too
Can someone familiar with probability help me understand this?
(if the channel isn't taken already)
I think I can do this
What in particular about this do you have trouble understanding?
and also saying A (_ S means that an event A has happened within S or what
(_ is the weird symbol
$\subseteq$ ?
Syst3ms
Ok, so this has to do with how we formalize probabilities
The objects in probabilities are really the same as basic basic set theory
Just with different names
In this case S is a set, but in probabilities it's a universe
if A ⊆ S, A is called an event
fancy probability word for subset
So A is a subset of S?
Yup
As a side note, if you talk about it from an event standpoint
A ⊆ B means that event A implies event B
Let's do two coin throws
There are 4 possible outcomes : {(H,H),(H,T),(T,H),(T,T)}
This is your universe
The set of all possible outcomes
take {(H,H)} ⊆ {(H,H),(H,T)}
all we're saying is that if we got two heads, in particular our first throw was a head
the event "get two heads" implies "the first throw was a head"
But it also implies "the second throw was a head"
We say two events are disjoint if they can't both happen at once
In set theory terms, this just means their intersection is ∅
isn't that an impossible event
Yup
For example, {(H,H),(H,T)} ∩ {(T,T),(T,H)} = ∅
You can't both have "the first throw is heads" and "the first throw is tails"
the first throw only


