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pale bison
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f(0) = 2x + 1
f(0) = y
f(1) = 3x
f(1) = y + 2
from this, you obtain
2x + 1 = y
3x = y + 2 => y = 3x - 2
this means
2x + 1 = 3x - 2 => x = 3
this means (from the equation 2x + 1 = y), y = 7

full garden
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❤️ thank u so much

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❤️ if it wasn't for you I would've not been able to solve it thank u so much

pale bison
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ah fuck i made a mistake

full garden
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oh

pale bison
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just the last two lines

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sorry

full garden
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dont say sorry if it wasn't for u i would've not been able to solve that question thank u so much bro ❤️

pale bison
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lol np

full garden
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so it it correct if i do this ?

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and then factor everything out?

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can someone please tell me if thats the correct way of starting

sour eagle
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The discriminant shouldn't include x

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Only the coefficients

full garden
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oh

sour eagle
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so it would be (k^2+1)^2-4*k^2

full garden
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so only (k^2+1)^2

sour eagle
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Yes

full garden
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okay thank u so much bro

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thank u ❤️

sour eagle
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Np 👍🏿

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😄

full garden
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i tried using like quadratic formula

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and didn't get that recperical thing

hasty magnet
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are u asking for a or b @full garden

full garden
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b sir

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thank u for asking

hasty magnet
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what did u get for x

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after doing the quadratic formula

full garden
hasty magnet
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u sohuld get x=-k and x=-1/k

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what is that

full garden
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the simplest form

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so like from the above question we got the dicrimnant

hasty magnet
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k is a constant

full garden
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that's how I set it up

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how can i fix it 😅

hasty magnet
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idk how u are getting those things

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what are you doing?

full garden
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like its impossible to get x = -k

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yes bro I am jus trying to solve it using the quadratic formula

hasty magnet
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ok first can u expand the equation

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and tell me what you got

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then we can apply the quadratic formula

full garden
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oh

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i thought expanding was going to make it wrong

hasty magnet
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nah u have to expand it

full garden
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because b is like (k^2+1)

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oh

hasty magnet
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before u apply it

full garden
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okay

hasty magnet
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ok good

full garden
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thank u

hasty magnet
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can u combine any like terms

full garden
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yes

hasty magnet
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combine em

full garden
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now apply the quadratif formula bro?

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quadratic*

hasty magnet
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...

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that's not combining like terms

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do u seem anything u can combine

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from the other thing u sent

full garden
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i dont think i can combine them bro

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I can just factor out the common x

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and Ig use it for the b

hasty magnet
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not factor

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combine

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oh wait

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ok

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i thought u could combine like terms but i was wrong

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u actually have to take the quadratic formula of it lol

full garden
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okay

hasty magnet
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ok

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idk im getting -1 @full garden

full garden
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thank u @hasty magnet ❤️

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u helped me a lot thank u so much ❤️

hasty magnet
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i did?

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@full garden

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i got it if u need

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did u get it?

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i kept doing it wrong because i forgot u needed absolute values

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😅

full garden
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@hasty magnet thank u so much ❤️ thank u ofc u did even if u didn't help me u still tried which means a lot to me thanks buddy

rapid tangle
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How do i evaluate the fraction in problem 7 to apply limits

lilac pier
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multiply numerator and denominator by x^3

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@rapid tangle

rapid tangle
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@lilac pier I tried that earlier put how do I apply limits to infinity on that

lilac pier
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you get (x^6 - 6x^5 + 11x^4 - 6x^3) / - 6

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what'd i do wrong

stuck lark
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denom

lilac pier
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numerator approaches +infinity

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oh

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LOL yeah

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actually for the infinity part, write the denominator as 1/x^3 - 6/x^2 + 11/x - 6

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so as x approaches infinity, the denominator approaches -6

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the numerator approaches infinity since x^3 has the highest power and is positive

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so it's something of the form infinity / -6 which is just -infinity

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@rapid tangle

rapid tangle
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Yes, the answer's correct

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Thanks
Just got wound up at the algebra part cuz I'm relatively knew to this stuff

tender bolt
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if i am given g(x) = 2x+1 f(g(x))= 3x+7 , how can i find f(x)?

harsh smelt
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plug g(x) in

tender bolt
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where

harsh smelt
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if f(x)

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what is stopping you from having g(x) as variable for f

tender bolt
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but what can i do with that>

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i dont know f(x)

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i know g(x) and i know f(g(x))

past meadow
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i think commander means sub 2x+1 for g(x) in f(g(x)) so that you have f(2x+1)=3x+7

viscid thistle
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Zeus wants to know f(x) given g(x) and f(g(x))

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What changed between g(x) and f(g(x))? @tender bolt

tender bolt
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what do you mean

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f(g(x)) means that if we put g(x)

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inside of f(x) we get 3x+7

viscid thistle
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$g(x)=2x+1$
$f(g(x))=3x+7$

tender bolt
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that is f(2x+1) = 3x+7

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but how can i solve that

viscid thistle
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Ok so

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What happened

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The coefficient increased by 1

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And the +1 turned to a +7

tender bolt
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yes

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oh i see

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what yo uasked

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but how does that help me

viscid thistle
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Well the +1 in g(x) turned into a +7

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So f(x) has a +6 somewhere

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Follow?

tender bolt
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so f(x)= kx + 6

viscid thistle
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Yes

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If im correct

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So try to think of g(x) without the +1 now

tender bolt
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so there is not really any method

viscid thistle
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Wait no

tender bolt
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it is just trying to find it

viscid thistle
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Hold on

uncut mulch
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let u = 2x + 1

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do some rearranging and subs

viscid thistle
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Cant you do something with inverse

past meadow
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you're overthinking it. perform the substitution ramonov mentioned

viscid thistle
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Im pretty sure theres a legit method with inverse

tender bolt
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i just thought it in my had and i got f(x)= 3/2x + 11/2

past meadow
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thats the correct answer zeus

viscid thistle
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^

tender bolt
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oh so i can do 2x+1= u

past meadow
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yes

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that would be the best method here

tender bolt
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f(u) = 3x+7

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y=3x+7

viscid thistle
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Eeee

uncut mulch
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isolate x to get it in terms of u

viscid thistle
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^

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If you do $f(g^{-1}(x))$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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Shouldnt that be f(x)

tender bolt
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i did it like this f(u) , where u=2x+1 f(u)=3x+7

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u= (x-7)/3

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f(x)=2*u+1

uncut mulch
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uh no

tender bolt
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f(x)= 2*(x-7)/3 +1

uncut mulch
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u=2x+1
isolate x from that equation

tender bolt
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i did that

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obv

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thats how i got (x-7)/3

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i any case, i got what i needed, i checked also

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thanks mans

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man*

uncut mulch
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wait

tender bolt
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@uncut mulch its correcti checked it

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thanks

uncut mulch
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that notation looks messed up

viscid thistle
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How can u be two different things

uncut mulch
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^

viscid thistle
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Whatever

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Lol

uncut mulch
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extremely hard to follow what's actually being done

harsh smelt
viscid thistle
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Animal abuse inside that box

uncut mulch
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who the fk is Schrodinger?

harsh smelt
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it is Schrödinger minimized

sour eagle
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ö looks like 😮

tender bolt
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wtf

sour eagle
hexed ermine
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It's the pogchamp

warm siren
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lol

rapid tangle
serene heath
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what have u tried

rapid tangle
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I don't know how to expand xⁿ

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The formula wasn't given

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Like i solved the prev one where it was a^x

serene heath
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you could make a sub here

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u=x^1/2

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or multiply by (x-1)/(x-1)

rapid tangle
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Ok imma try, thanks

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Hey..uhh so still not getting it
Sorry, if it's basic stuff but I'm really new to this 😅@serene heath

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I could solve it using L'Hopital rule but I wanna solve it algebraically cuz they didn't teach that rule in this book

serene heath
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what did you get after subbing

rapid tangle
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😶oops sorry i took the wrong limit
Thanks for your help, got it

viscid thistle
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Yup

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Big brain

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My man

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I miss u

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@rapid tangle good job

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Me too lol

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How u been

silver matrix
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I don't know how to do it.

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Any help would be appreciated.

hasty magnet
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the increments are by 7 @silver matrix

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so one line is counted as 7 numbers until that line

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it's asking what would y be if x is 2

sour eagle
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x-intercept = intersection between the graph of the function and x axis
y-intercept = intersection between the graph of the function and y axis
so f(14) = 0
f(0) = 28
You can get the equation of the "line" between points (0,28) and (14,0) by calculating the slope
m = -28/14 = -2
y = -2x+28
So f(2) = -2*2+28 = 24

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@silver matrix

hasty magnet
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bruh ur not suppose to give them the answer @sour eagle

silver matrix
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Why not?

hasty magnet
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that's not how you teach

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thats y

sour eagle
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😔

hasty magnet
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we're here to guide you, not do it for you

silver matrix
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Thanks to his explanation I know how to mechanize this exercises

sour eagle
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Yes

full garden
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for this one I just plugged 1/x in f

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but I feel like it's wrong to do that because the question can't be that simple 😅

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can someone please just quickly tell me if that's correct please

smoky pagoda
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im not familiar with the notation but if Im assuming correctly, id say it's -2*(1/(-3(x-4)))-5

full garden
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oh

smoky pagoda
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or when simplifying: 2/(3x-4)-5

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cross check with someone else though

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it's the way I think the notation is being used

full garden
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okay thanks buddy I'll check thank u

smoky pagoda
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i havent actually seen this before

full garden
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sameee

smoky pagoda
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but the way I understand it what's in the square brackets becomes the new input for f

full garden
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i thought we just had to sub 1/x into f

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oh

rapid tangle
signal herald
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@rapid tangle 5th line

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You factor out an x, but take out the negative sign as well

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That’s why you end up with -1/2 instead of 1/2

rapid tangle
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@signal herald ah yes, a rather silly mistake
Thanks tho

signal herald
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@rapid tangle Where do you go to school? It's interesting that you're learning limits in precalculus, especially using series expansions

drowsy karma
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So I'm looking at the answer key of my homework but I don't understand where that 3 came from in the final portion of the question.

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The 3 that came into 3y

harsh smelt
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he moved everything to right

drowsy karma
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wym

uncut mulch
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multiplied both sides of the equation by 3 to get rid of the fraction

drowsy karma
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Ahh

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thanks

rapid tangle
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@signal herald heyy so m currently in 10th grade moving to 11th
I'm really just trynna teach myself calculus
Rn I'm following this book called Differential Calculus for Beginners by Joseph Edwards

drowsy karma
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Idk if its flying over my head or??

harsh smelt
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well if a/b = -1

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then a obviously is -b

uncut mulch
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is that a 9, a or q

drowsy karma
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Its a q

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Im just gonna question my teacher tmr

harsh smelt
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-q-3=-4 btw

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q+3=4

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q = 1

uncut mulch
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multiplied both sides by 12

harsh smelt
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look
$\frac{(-q-3)}{6} \frac{3}{2} = -1$

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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$\frac{3(-q-3)}{12}= -1$

obsidian monolithBOT
uncut mulch
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though it would be more efficient to multiply by the lcm of 2,6 (which was 6)

harsh smelt
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$\frac{3(-q-3)}{-1}= 12$

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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which is the same as $\frac{3(-q-3)}{1}= -12$

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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do you understand why?

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"the cosine of an angle in the unit circle just equals cosine, "

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hm

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indeed!

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well your idea is correct

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look

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sin is opposite leg divided by hypothenuse

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(for right triangle)

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and cos is near leg by hypothenuse

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so in case of unit circle we have hypothenuse 1

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since it is radius

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and because of that

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x and y components are cos and sin respectively

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we define unit circle in terms of circle btw

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x^2+y^2=1

viscid thistle
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hey guys! How do i find the two fundamental solutions for cos(5x+3x)=0.03?

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i found one, but not sure how to find the other

harsh smelt
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hey guys! How do i find the two fundamental solutions for cos(5x+3x)=0.03?
@viscid thistle cos(-x)=cosx

viscid thistle
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@harsh smelt i appreciate that tip, but im not quite sure how to apply it

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i know that my first answer is in QI and my second should be in Q4

harsh smelt
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suppose cos(10)=0.3

viscid thistle
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is that where thats heading?

harsh smelt
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then cos(-10)=0.3

viscid thistle
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Im following that

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cos is an even function, i agree

harsh smelt
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suppose you found solution which is A

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then because cos is even

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-A is also solution

viscid thistle
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what if i wanted the solution to only by between 0 and 360

harsh smelt
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then transorm -A

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-90 = 270

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360-A btw

viscid thistle
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i tried that as well!

harsh smelt
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A and 360-A will give the same cos

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,w cos(8x)=0.03

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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basically what i said

viscid thistle
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how did they come up with 33.965?

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Sorry if i'm not understanding by the way! im trying my best!

drowsy karma
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@harsh smelt ya i think i get it

lilac pier
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@viscid thistle You have cos(8x) = 0.03, that means cos(8x) is positive

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For simplicity, let 8x = alpha. So you have cos(alpha) = 0.03, which means cos(alpha) is positive. You should know cos is positive in the first and fourth quadrants.

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For the first quadrant, you get alpha = 88.28. For the fourth quadrant, it's 360 - 88.28. So you have alpha = 88.28, 271.72. Now use alpha = 8x.

fleet yew
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@lilac pier dont just give out answers

viscid thistle
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^

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that way he won't learn it nor reason through it

willow bear
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no, the domain of tan is not $\mathbb{R} - { n \pi/2 \mid n \in \mathbb{N} }$.

obsidian monolithBOT
silver matrix
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Ok..

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and what would be it?

willow bear
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$\mathbb{R} - { (2n+1)\pi/2 \mid n \in \mathbb{Z} }$

obsidian monolithBOT
silver matrix
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Uf.. I do not understand that 2n + 1

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Indeed, I do not understand all this mathematical demonstrations or whatever is called when they add that + 1

willow bear
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it can be rewritten as $R - \curly{n\pi + \frac\pi2 \mid n \in \bZ}$

silver matrix
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it's annoying for me

obsidian monolithBOT
willow bear
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if you wish

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does that make it clearer

silver matrix
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Yeah

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Thanks

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Now I understand why they add that 1

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it's a better way the first way but I needed to know where it came from

silver matrix
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Is this true? At first I thought it was, but then I said that the domain could be (in interval notation) (-\infty, 2] U [3, \infty)

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As the x can have all that values except the ones between 2 and 3

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This ones included

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But then he says that the domain has to be the intersection between the roots.

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What do you guys think?

viscid thistle
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Yes

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The domain of a function is all the values that can produce a result passing through the formula

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sqrt x-3 is only defined in R when x>=3

willow bear
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sqrt**(x-3)**

silver matrix
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So?

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What is the solution?

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There's no solution then?

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He's right?

viscid thistle
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and sqrt 2-x only when x<=2

willow bear
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sqrt**(2-x)**

viscid thistle
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so the function as a whole has no real domain

willow bear
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if you write \verb|sqrt x - 3| then it is not clear whether you are talking about $\sqrt{x}-3$ or about $\sqrt{x-3}$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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indeed, sorry

silver matrix
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What is hte difference between that example and this one?

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I mean the values don't have an intersection either

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But here there's a solution

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In the other case, it wasn't

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Why

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This is not solved algebraically, I HATE this explanations

viscid thistle
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the square root doesn't exist if what is being squared is negative

willow bear
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in either case, you don't want negative numbers under your square roots

viscid thistle
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so in essence, what you're looking to answer is

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when is (x+4)(x-3) negative

willow bear
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^

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and then, once you figured that out, take everything BUT those points

silver matrix
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Is a circle an even, odd or neither function?

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The professor says that techinically a circle is not a function

tawny nacelle
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yes it isnt

harsh smelt
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it is.

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it takes pair (x,y) and maps it to point (x,y) what's the problem

patent beacon
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It's not a function R → R, which is usually where we talk about odd/even

silver matrix
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Could you tell me, even so, if it's an even odd or neither function? It's symmetrical both on the y-axis and on the origin

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Oh ok

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so it's anything then right?

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If it's not a function

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then can be neither, nor odd nor even I guess

serene heath
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the question is nonsense

tawny nacelle
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its a relation on the set R

serene heath
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since its not a function

silver matrix
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This algebra 2 and precalculus video tutorial explains how to determine whether a function f is even, odd, or neither algebraically and using graphs. This video contains plenty of examples and practice problems using variables and constants. First, plug in -x into the equati...

▶ Play video
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I don't like how he explain things, but 🤷‍♂️ this guy makes ace exams

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He taughts you how to mechanize things

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So

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Left as an exercise I guess. The thing is that I've heard about R but I don't even know what that is

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They are like planes? Dimensions? Real numbers?

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No idea

serene heath
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the set of all real numbers

silver matrix
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Ok

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I've seen sets in a very basic way

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so

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So R1, R2 and R3 are then differente thins right?

willow bear
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yes
R^1, or just R, is the number line

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R^2 is the x-y plane

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R^3 is three-dimensional space in the everyday sense of the word

silver matrix
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Can there be R\infty?

harsh smelt
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Hilbert space

silver matrix
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or R0?

harsh smelt
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or R0?
zero vector?

willow bear
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no to both of these

silver matrix
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yeah i guess so

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oh

willow bear
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R^∞ could be understood as the set of all infinite sequences of real numbers

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tho it never really comes up bc there's not much you could do with it

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R^0 is just... well, you could say it's just {0} but i don't see a use for that except maybe to plug a hole in some definition

silver matrix
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So if there are higher dimensions than 11, why the physicists try to invent a theory that explain all in the world with x dimensions?

willow bear
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i.e. a technicality that is almost surely never comes up in practice

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uh

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...what

silver matrix
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yeah

willow bear
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what are you even talking about

silver matrix
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how can you explain more than 11 dimensions

willow bear
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this went metaphysical really quickly

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...

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...

silver matrix
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No, it would be a non-technical discussion about what people are studying today

pale kettle
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You can just work with these things algebraically

harsh smelt
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dimension in math != dimension physically

willow bear
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i am not sure what kind of answer you want to hear

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because like

pale kettle
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You don't need to be able to visualize them to be able to work with them

harsh smelt
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dimension in math is just like roughly standard lenght of an array

willow bear
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the space of all possible configurations of a system is a meaningful thing physicists talk about

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and the dimension of THAT can go as high as you want with complex enough systems

silver matrix
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I'm just saying that I do not understand why physics try to say that the world is x dimensions when in math you see higher dimensions than that

willow bear
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why does it matter what you see in math

pale kettle
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Because the world isn't that high of a dimension?

willow bear
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what you see in math need not have direct relation to anything in the real world

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or like

pale kettle
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Just because we can think of R^(10000) doesn't mean the world can have that many dimensions?

silver matrix
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so math is apart from the world/universe?

willow bear
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direct relation in specifically the way you're thinking of

pale kettle
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I mean, there are things in the world that have high dimension in some sense

silver matrix
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that explodes my mind tbh

pale kettle
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Like data sets can have high dimension

silver matrix
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and doesn't makes sense in some way

pale kettle
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This isn't the standard "physical dimension of space"

silver matrix
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then you are not explainging all

willow bear
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because again, R^n for high n is the natural setting for modeling complex systems with many components and many degrees of freedom

pale kettle
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I can have a dataset that takes values in R^(10000)

patent beacon
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There's different ways to interpret a vector space. Literally representing "space" is one of them, for which R⁴ could never work

willow bear
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like if you have three bodies interacting gravitationally in three dimensional "physical" space, that's already three position and three velocity vectors - one for each body
and the state of the system as a whole could be expressed as a single point in R^18

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up to technicalities as to what that point would ac be

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add more components and interactions and the dimension of the state space can be cranked as high as you wish

silver matrix
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I have to study more to comprehend these type of things. From a premature perspective I see incoherent listening to a physicist talking about M-theory or whatever theory (obviously in a divulgative way) and then see the group monster with 256 dimensions or whatever that thing is (again, in a divulgative way)

pale kettle
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Dimension just can have different meanings?

willow bear
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of course you have to study more to comprehend these types of things

pale kettle
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Dimension in these situations usually means dimension as a vector space

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So like R^(10) has dimension 10

patent beacon
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Self-teaching AIs are really just spicy functions R^10 to R^5 or whatever

slow roost
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i did the math but not sure if its right.

maiden pebble
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is tan(5x) = sin(5x)/cos(5x)

past meadow
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Yes

maiden pebble
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awesome

viscid thistle
maiden pebble
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$ csc(5x^5)cot(5x^5)(25x^4)cot(5x^5) + (-csc(5x^5))(-sin(5x^5))(25x^4) $

obsidian monolithBOT
maiden pebble
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thanks rent free i see where i went wrong

viscid thistle
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np

maiden pebble
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Could someone help me solve the derivative of sqrt(2t)

empty wolf
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Do you know how to write square root as an exponent?

maiden pebble
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Yes

empty wolf
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Okay, so once you've done that, do you have an idea for derivative rules you know that would apply to (2t) raised to some power?

maiden pebble
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power rule i believe its called

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$ \frac{1}{2}(2t)^{-1/2}$

obsidian monolithBOT
empty wolf
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Yeah, nice, that's exactly it. There's just one step left. The power rule would be for $t^{1/2}$, but you have 2t inside

maiden pebble
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finally...

obsidian monolithBOT
empty wolf
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So is there any other rule you can use that takes care of when you replace e.g. x with 2x or a f(x)?

maiden pebble
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what?

empty wolf
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Do you remember learning about the chain rule?

maiden pebble
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Yes

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I just didnt understand your question

empty wolf
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Sorry, that's what I was trying to ask about

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So, can you try applying the chain rule to the steps you've already worked on?

maiden pebble
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is my equation correct?

past meadow
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Wait why do you need chain rule here

empty wolf
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The equation you put above would be for just the power rule. You also need to handle the "2t" inside somehow (using the chain rule)

past meadow
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...

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Constant multiple rule

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Much easier than chain rule

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Original expression simplifies as Sqrt(2)*sqrt(t)

maiden pebble
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I dont think ive heard of the Constant Multiple rule before

empty wolf
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I did not know that was a thing, but it sounds like giving a name to the chain rule of a linear function

maiden pebble
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Wait, flormulaic do you want me to apply to chain rule to my original equation or my most recent one?

empty wolf
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I was thinking about just applying it to the most recent one. The only problem is in the most recent equation you sent, you're just skipping the fact that when you apply the power rule to (2t)^{1/2}, there is a 2t (a function) that you need to pull the derivative from afterwards

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Sorry if that's unclear

maiden pebble
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So you just want me to mutliply $ \frac{1}{2}(2t)^{-1/2}$ by 2

obsidian monolithBOT
empty wolf
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Exactly like that, yes

maiden pebble
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So the fraction obv cancels

empty wolf
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Yes

maiden pebble
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Ooh ok, so i get 1/sqrt(2t)

empty wolf
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I think so, yes

maiden pebble
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Awesome thanks

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pretty sure those are the same thing

empty wolf
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That's 1/sqrt(2t), it just separated the two

past meadow
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Sorry i misread the message

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My bad

empty wolf
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Sneaky, I think the rule you're talking about would not pass through a nonlinear function (like square root)

maiden pebble
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, calc 2/3/4

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

0.16666666666667
maiden pebble
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, calc 2/1 * 4/3

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

2.6666666666667
maiden pebble
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, calc 2/3 * 4/1

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

2.6666666666667
maiden pebble
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, calc 2/3 * 1/4

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

0.16666666666667
maiden pebble
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thank god

prime crypt
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. Write a polynomial inequality in factored form with integer linear factors who’s solution is:

𝑥 ∈ [−3]∪[−2,0]∪ [􏰇1/2,2/3]

willow bear
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what's that box meant to be before the 1/2

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also do you have a screenshot of the problem just in case

prime crypt
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Yep

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[] includes the value, so less than or equal to.

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just said in set notation

stuck lark
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i heartily dislike [] used for both closed intervals & set roster

prime crypt
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Yep they force it up your mouth in ib lol

harsh smelt
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well

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@prime crypt

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if this borders are solutions for inequailty

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they are roots of underlying equality

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(sounds a bit communistly lol)

prime crypt
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hahaha

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you’re right, just tried that and got something

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just used one of those sign charts to see if the solutions fit for either < or >

willow bear
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aight well ok like

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you're gonna want a nonstrict inequality

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because (polynomial) > 0 will only ever give you open intervals

viscid thistle
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Tag helper after 15 mins

stark vale
harsh smelt
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just to get rid of radical

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to get 2^(5/5)

viscid thistle
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so 2^(2/5) * 2^(3/5)

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add exponents

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2^(5/5)

stark vale
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so we see that when raise it to 2 power wont work

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thats why we put 3?

harsh smelt
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like if he wish he could've put 2^7138138183 under root

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but ^3 cancels root

stark vale
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okey thanks

silver matrix
patent beacon
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I'm thinking something has gone wrong

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It looks like whatever goes off the top, comes back at the bottom. With that being said, the amplitude would then be 5

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Periodic functions should never look like this lol

silver matrix
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Thanks for the answer. I guess the period is 10pi, no?

And what about the formula?

patent beacon
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,w graph 5cos(1/5 x)

obsidian monolithBOT
patent beacon
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That would be it. Note that 1/5 comes from 2π/10π

silver matrix
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Amazing, thanks.

viscid thistle
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bruh

silver matrix
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And this is the Mathematical Association of America

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arggg

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I'm gonna tell my advisor

viscid thistle
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very poorly made

silver matrix
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My answer?

viscid thistle
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no the software

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and the question

silver matrix
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Yeah, agree

still meadow
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isn't that Webwork as a whole?

viscid thistle
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Anyone here ?

pale bison
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no

viscid thistle
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we're all ghosts

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I have solved this auestion

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But i just need someone to check if my logic is correct or not

pale bison
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sure, post your solution

viscid thistle
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Okay

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My handwriting is trash

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Just let me explain what i did ?

pale bison
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sure

viscid thistle
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So first i checked for what values of x sqrt(1-|x|) would be valid

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As its a square root

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It should always be positive for all real values of x

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So sqrt(1-|x|) >=0

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Solving this inequality we get

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x must belong to the interval [-1,1]

pale bison
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good, keep going

viscid thistle
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And then i just took the intersection of the above 2 sets

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And got the answer

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Have i considered all the appropriate cases ?

pale bison
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yes

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you actually don't need to consider the -sqrt 5 case, since |-1 - sqrt 5| > 1

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so looking exclusively at [-1, (-1 + sqrt5)/2] will work

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oh wops nvm

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i missed the 2 at the bottom

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yeah, you did everything correctly, discard what i said above

viscid thistle
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Thanks 🙂

pale bison
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oh wait wops,
|(-1 - sqrt 5)/2| > 1

viscid thistle
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so looking exclusively at [-1, (-1 + sqrt5)/2] will work
@pale bison Shouldnt it be a closed like this ) ?

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Since the roots arent considered

pale bison
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yes, since you have strict equality, i'm just giving a domain for which they're defined on

viscid thistle
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Yes 🙂

sour eagle
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@viscid thistle but the solution ((-1-sqrt5)/2, (-1+sqrt5)/2) is not an answer in that list. Or maybe im just dumb. Sorry for the ping!

viscid thistle
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@sour eagle Its alright 🙂 , actually the solution will be obtained after intersection of 2 sets

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Thats just one of the sets

sour eagle
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Oh ok! Wasn't sure if that was the final solution or not 😅 Sorry again for the ping

gloomy mortar
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Okay I’m absolutely going nuts with Precalc. I have a few assignments left and I just can’t figure them out. I asked some family too. Can someone please dm me so we can talk about these calculus parts of the class (since this server doesn’t like giving me notifications in here 🙈)? I’m just being driven nuts with it and only have a few more days till the school year is over.

rich flint
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@gloomy mortar go ahead and post your work so someone can see if they can help you

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@gloomy mortar we have rules regarding dm make sure you review those but your better off uploading a screenshot on here so people can help you. If I can’t see the work I don’t feel confident that I would be able to assist. Good luck 👍

gloomy mortar
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That’s all

viscid thistle
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That's all eh

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Wow great

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No one will have time to walk through all

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@gloomy mortar you gotta choose

past meadow
#

the general prolem solving method for geometry problems like those in the second pic onward goes like this: Draw a diagram. list or think of relevant formulas(cosine rule, sine rule, etc are going to be especially important here). See if you have enough values to use any of those. If you don;t, look for values that you can find that you would be able to plug into those formulas. Then, do your best to solve.

raven brook
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Now how to solve this ?

pale bison
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,rotate

obsidian monolithBOT
pale bison
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what have you tried?

viscid thistle
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@raven brook dont multipost.

sterile notch
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So I had this question:
Show: 2 * ln(y) = √(ln(y))

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2 * ln(y) - √(ln(y)) = 0

2 * a^2 - a = 0
a( 2a - 1 ) = 0

2 * ln(y) - √(ln(y)) = 0
√(ln(y)) ( 2 * √(ln(y)) - 1) = 0
√(ln(y)) = 0, ln(y) = 0, y = e^0 = 1
or
2 * √(ln(y)) - 1 = 0
2 * √(ln(y)) = 1
√(ln(y)) = 1/2
ln(y) = 1/4
e^(1/4) = y

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Though I was wondering, why I don't need to put ± next to ln(y), after squaring 1/2, to 1/4

uncut mulch
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definition of the square root

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$(\sqrt{x})^2 = x$

obsidian monolithBOT
sterile notch
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Looks like abs value tbh

uncut mulch
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$(\sqrt{x})^2$ is not the same as $\sqrt{x^2}$ for all values of x

obsidian monolithBOT
sterile notch
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Hmm, what values?

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I guess negative values wont work.

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For the first one.

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Since it'd be undefined I assume?

uncut mulch
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depends if you are considering complex numbers

sterile notch
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Ah right

uncut mulch
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eg (sqrt(-1))^2 would be -1
but sqrt( (-1)^2) would be |-1| = 1

sterile notch
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Yep, that makes sense

raven brook
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@pale bison tried doin f'(x) = f (x) - f (1/3) / x - 1/3

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@Al𝟛dium#4084 oki

gloomy mortar
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@viscid thistle I still need this much help because people weren’t really helping before, so this has all built up. I guess now you realize why I can’t do it myself. People are refusing to help me

viscid thistle
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You sent 13 problems

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13...

gloomy mortar
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Before I didn’t send many. I sent 13 problems now because it’s built up since people weren’t helping

viscid thistle
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Aight

gloomy mortar
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I get that it’s a lot but it’s gotten to that much because people haven’t helped. That’s why I really just need someone to help

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And I’m coming to here because my teacher doesn’t ever answer her emails

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And no one I know irl knows more than the second problem

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Or if they have, haven’t replied

viscid thistle
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  1. Note that angular speed's formula is $$\omega=\frac{\theta}{t}$$ and when we talk about time that it takes to rotate once we talk about this formula $$\omega=\frac{2π}{T}$$ where T is the time it takes to rotate once (which you are given)

  2. Is basically asking you for your lineal velocity, V. Whose formula is $$V=\omega \cdot r$$ whose r is given on the previous problem.

Next pic: 1) Note that Sine's law is $$\frac{\sin(A)}{a}=\frac{\sin(B)}{b}=\frac{\sin(C)}{c}$$ where A is an angle and a is the side length located on the opposite of the angle (same for letters b and c), example given on the pic. While cosine's law: $$a²=b²+c²-2bc\cdot \cos(A)$$. So for 1 and 2, two lengths are given and one angle, choose which law is more convinient.

From 3) to 6) you gotta draw these.
3) 2 angles and one length given, calculate another length.

  1. 2 lengths are given (while 90 being the length side) (use geometry here).

  2. 2 angles and 1 side, pretty obvious to which law you should use to get the other side.

  3. Again pretty obvious, 2 sides and 1 angle, calculate the missing angle.

Next pic:

  1. 2 angles 1 side, calculate side.

  2. 2 sides 1 angle, calculate angle.

  3. 3 sides, calculate angle.

Last pic:

  1. Again, 2 angles and 1 side, calculate the other side

  2. Motion problem combined with 2 angles given, to calculate 3 sides, 2 or them are calculated by the motion equation (you gotta transform the units first) $$x=v\cdot t$$ where v is velocity which is given and time which is given as well, when both x are calculated, use cosine's law for the other length.

Bonus: 2 side lengths, 1 angle, missing 1 side, calculate it by one of the laws. And to find the area, i would use Heron's formula for the area of any triangle: $$A_{\text{triangle}}=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}$$ where s is the semi-perimeter so $$s=\frac{a+b+c}{2}$$ and a, b and c are all the side lengths of the triangle

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@gloomy mortar

obsidian monolithBOT
sour eagle
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HOW

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🤯

gloomy mortar
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Oh god let me try to break all that down and do it

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Thanks for the info I’m just trying to not have my brain explode rn

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Is 3 just 2pi/45 rpm then?

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On the first page

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@viscid thistle

viscid thistle
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The second one is not

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And the first one must be expressed in rad/s not in rpm

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For the second one look better at the formula

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Its $V=\omega\cdot r$ not the other one

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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Wait what did I do wrong then in the second

viscid thistle
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Its $V=\omega\cdot r$ not the other one

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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What do you mean not the other one

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I plugged in the w and r is 125 right?

viscid thistle
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You clearly didnt used that one

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For the 4

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I see a fraction

gloomy mortar
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Yeah cause w=2pi/45

viscid thistle
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Oh my srry its so small

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I couldn't appreciate the equal signs

gloomy mortar
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I multiplied that by 125/1

viscid thistle
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Neither the dots

gloomy mortar
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No worries

viscid thistle
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So yeah its correct

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And the first one must be expressed in rad/s not in rpm
@viscid thistle dont forget this one thing tho

gloomy mortar
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Wait it says radians per minute though so wouldn’t it be rad/m not rad/s?

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(I put rpm and derp, that’s revolutions per minute not radians per minute lol)

viscid thistle
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Wait it says radians per minute though so wouldn’t it be rad/m not rad/s?
@gloomy mortar you are given 45s

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Not minutes

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Therefore it must be seconds

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So rad/s

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Or whatever notation that its equivalent to that

gloomy mortar
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Yeah but it says calculate in radians per minute which I just now realized

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Unless that’s a typo

viscid thistle
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Where?

gloomy mortar
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Right on number 3

viscid thistle
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Oml how did i skipped that lol

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So yeah

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Basically from rad/s to rad/min

gloomy mortar
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So just times it by 60?

viscid thistle
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Look

gloomy mortar
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I mean to get rad/s to rad/min do I times 2pi/45 by 60?

viscid thistle
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,ask (2pi rad)/45s to rpm

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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^

gloomy mortar
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It’s not rpm it’s radians per minute

viscid thistle
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BRUH oml i need to eat urgently lol

gloomy mortar
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Lol

viscid thistle
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I mean to get rad/s to rad/min do I times 2pi/45 by 60?
@gloomy mortar yeah

gloomy mortar
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@viscid thistle (When you’re back, if you’re eating)

viscid thistle
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Totally correct

gloomy mortar
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So I’m taking a look at the last two pages, and I have this so far. I feel like I should use the sines law, but with the info I have I’m confused...

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Cause I have sides b and c but angle A...

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If I use the Cosines law I get stuck

viscid thistle
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Yah for the tree one you gotta use cosine law

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It has 3 forms

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Use the most convenient one @gloomy mortar

gloomy mortar
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Wait so I don’t need that to be angle A then

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Does it matter what’s angle A, B, and C?

harsh smelt
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it is opposite to side

gloomy mortar
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I mean does it matter if that is angle A, B, or C?

viscid thistle
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Yeah

gloomy mortar
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Because it doesn’t say what side is a, b, or c

viscid thistle
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You can just name them

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But respect the angle

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Like if you put angle A, the side a must be on the opposite

gloomy mortar
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Okay I still don’t get what I use though. Because the different versions of the cosine law only have one version for each angle

viscid thistle
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Okay

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For this one i'll tell you

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Just so you get used to it

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$$a²=b²+c²-2bc\cdot \cos(A)$$ so $$a²=30²+45²-2(30)(45) \cdot \cos(86)$$

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Thats it

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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Oh wait wait yeah I know what to plug in for that but I still don’t get the info I need I mean

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I need angle C

viscid thistle
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Yeah true

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But then you can do

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$c²=a²+b²-2ab\cdot \cos(C)$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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Bc now you know a, b and c

gloomy mortar
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😳 I didn’t think of that

viscid thistle
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Its all good

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Playing with cosine law pretty much

gloomy mortar
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I feel like I need to take cos^-1 to cancel cosine and find <C but how do I do that here

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Cause I can’t find cos^-1(4.07)

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@viscid thistle

willow bear
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4.07 = cos(C)

gloomy mortar
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Yeah

willow bear
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the fact that you got cos(something) to be a value above 1 is

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kinda suspicious ngl

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hoooold up

gloomy mortar
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What did I do wrong then I’m confusing myself

willow bear
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,calc 2 * 52.31 * 30

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

3138.6
willow bear
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,calc 52.31^2 + 30^2

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

3636.3361
willow bear
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so you had 2025 = 3636.3361 - 3138.6cos(C)

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that's what you should've had, anyway

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and then you... subtracted the 3636.3361 and the 3138.6?

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yeah, that's where you went wrong

viscid thistle
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@gloomy mortar ^

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Its a lil bit tedious not to mess up the numbers

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Be careful

gloomy mortar
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No that’s the same number

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497.7361

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2025=497.7361cos(C)

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That’s what I have

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,calc 3636.3361 - 3138.6

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

497.7361
harsh smelt
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2025=497.7361cos(C)

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wtf is that

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,calc 2025/498

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

4.066265060241
gloomy mortar
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,calc 2025/497.7361

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

4.0684209965884
gloomy mortar
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4.07, approximately

viscid thistle
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,calc 30^2+45^2-[(2(30)(45)*cos(86)]

obsidian monolithBOT
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The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Parenthesis ) expected (char 30)

harsh smelt
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,w range cos(x)

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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,calc 30^2+45^2-((2(30)(45)*cos(86))

viscid thistle
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,calc 30^2+45^2-(2(30)(45)*cos(86))

obsidian monolithBOT
#

The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Parenthesis ) expected (char 31)

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Result:

3960.9858013643
viscid thistle
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,calc sqrt(3960.9858)

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

62.936363097974
viscid thistle
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Look

willow bear
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@gloomy mortar you are making an algebraic fuckup

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to demonstrate...

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by your logic, the equation 35 = 50 - 2x would have x = 35/48 as a solution

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which it does not

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3636.3361 - 3138.6 * cos(C) is not (3636.3361 - 3138.6) * cos(C)

gloomy mortar
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I used a calculator for that too

viscid thistle
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@gloomy mortar redo it

willow bear
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mythicalsheep

gloomy mortar
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I just did

willow bear
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i am not saying you did your arithmetic incorrectly

gloomy mortar
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And got the same answer

willow bear
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i am saying THAT THIS IS AN INVALID ALGEBRAIC MOVE

harsh smelt
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Aldium i suppose you are needed in #help-2

gloomy mortar
viscid thistle
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Aldium i suppose you are needed in #help-2
@harsh smelt busy day lol

gloomy mortar
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Wdym Ann

willow bear
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ok so like

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can you show your work again

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redone if possible

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so that i can pinpoint the mistake more easily

gloomy mortar
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Well I just showed the first part

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Anything not shown was because calculator lol

viscid thistle
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redone

gloomy mortar
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Ik

harsh smelt
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,w arccos(0.51339326451)

gloomy mortar
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Why’d you subtract 2025 and put everything over 3138.6

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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That’s the opposite

willow bear
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aight so like

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you know what really is not helping

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the fact that you're choosing to work with big messy numbers

harsh smelt
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Why’d you subtract 2025 and put everything over 3138.6
because
a^2=b^2+c^2-2ab(cosC)

gloomy mortar
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I’m using the scientific calculator to make my life easier so I don’t have to work with them

willow bear
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algebra

remote veldt
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sometimes it can be easier to make everything a variable, then put numbers in at the end

willow bear
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$c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab \cos(C)$ can be rearranged as-is to $\cos(C) = \frac{a^2 + b^2 - c^2}{2ab}$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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sometimes it can be easier to make everything a variable, then put numbers in at the end
@remote veldt always lmao

harsh smelt
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^

remote veldt
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I mean like with coefficients of 1 or whatever it usually doesn't matter lmao

harsh smelt
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also avoids round off errors

gloomy mortar
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I literally did that I just didn’t put that equation in my work

willow bear
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no you didn't.

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you chose to plug in all the numbers and confused yourself.

gloomy mortar
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To the equation yes

willow bear
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and subtracted things that weren't meant to be subtracted.

harsh smelt
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,calc 252.3130

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

3138.6
willow bear
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$c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab \cos(C)$ can be rearranged as-is, \textbf{without plugging anything into anything}, to $\cos(C) = \frac{a^2 + b^2 - c^2}{2ab}$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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To the equation yes
@gloomy mortar that led to algebraic messings

harsh smelt
willow bear
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ugh

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too many cooks in the kitchen

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im out

gloomy mortar
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a²=b²+c²-2bc•cos(A)

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That’s the first part

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I did exactly that

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Commander that was me dividing it on both sides to cancel it out

harsh smelt
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where from 497

gloomy mortar
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I already explained and calculated

harsh smelt
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and i cannot see it

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what here results in 497?

viscid thistle
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Better $a=\sqrt{b²+c²-2bc\cdot \cos(A)}$

gloomy mortar
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The whole equation before cos(C)

harsh smelt
gloomy mortar
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Al3dium I did nothing different

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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Look

gloomy mortar
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Yeah I know

remote veldt
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why have you already plugged numbers in mythical sheep. Why are there numbers in front of the cos(x)? why are there numbers anywhere?

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this is the issue that ann was stating

harsh smelt
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$a^2=b^2+c^2-2ab\cos A$

gloomy mortar
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You guys are ignoring what I said

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Those are the values plugged into that equation

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The first one

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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The one with cos(A)

harsh smelt
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yes

remote veldt
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do not plug values in directly

harsh smelt
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A = C now

remote veldt
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wait

gloomy mortar
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I know the equation

harsh smelt
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it is just sumbols

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$c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab\cos C$

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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if you wish so

gloomy mortar
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I did that for the second one

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That’s where the values come from

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I found 52.31 in the first equation

harsh smelt
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$c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab\cos C$ hence \
$2ab\cos C = a^2+b^2-c^2$

viscid thistle
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$\cos(C) = \frac{a^2 + b^2 - c^2}{2ab}$

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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Just redo it

gloomy mortar
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I already know the equations

obsidian monolithBOT
inner karma
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AlKhashi's

gloomy mortar
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I did and you guys won’t believe me

inner karma
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theorem

harsh smelt
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$\cos C = \frac{a^2+b^2-c^2}{2ab}$

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if you did

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then

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cosC=?

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
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4.07

harsh smelt
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wrong

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you did it wrong

gloomy mortar
harsh smelt
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you did $\
\cos C = \frac{c^2}{a^2+b^2-2ab}$

obsidian monolithBOT
harsh smelt
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instead of

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if you got cos = 4.07 you by definition cannot do it correctly

viscid thistle
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,calc arccos((52.31^2+30^2-45^2)/(251.3130))

remote veldt
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use arccos

harsh smelt
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and wolfram

obsidian monolithBOT
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The following error occured while calculating:
Error: (intermediate value)(intermediate value)(intermediate value) is not a function

harsh smelt
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,w

obsidian monolithBOT
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Please submit a valid query! For example, ,ask differentiate x+y^2 with respect to x.

viscid thistle
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,w arccos((52.31^2+30^2-45^2)/(251.3130))

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Ik lol

obsidian monolithBOT
gloomy mortar
harsh smelt
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here is correct answer

gloomy mortar
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That’s not the equation

harsh smelt
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instead of

viscid thistle
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^

harsh smelt
gloomy mortar
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Stop talking

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This is what I did

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The equation in red is what I did

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Which is what I was told to do

harsh smelt
gloomy mortar
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Stop for a second

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,calc 52.31²+30²

obsidian monolithBOT
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The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Syntax error in part "²+30²" (char 6)

viscid thistle
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^2

gloomy mortar
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Ik, my phone automatically autocorrects it

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,calc 53.31^2+30^2

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

3741.9561
gloomy mortar
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,calc -2(52.31)(30)

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

-3138.6
harsh smelt
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52.31 btw

gloomy mortar
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Yep mistyped

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,calc 52.31^2+30^2

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

3636.3361
gloomy mortar
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,calc 3636.3361-3138.6

obsidian monolithBOT
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Result:

497.7361
harsh smelt
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this operation is illegal

viscid thistle
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Yep

harsh smelt
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2025=3636.3361-3138.6cosC

viscid thistle
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You didn't respect the order of operations

gloomy mortar
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I didn’t do the exponents first because I mistyped

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The first one

viscid thistle
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What

gloomy mortar
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I did them originally but I mistyped it so I had to recalculate

harsh smelt
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are 3633 and 3138cosC similar terms of the equation?

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can you add bananas to chairs?

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meh

remote veldt
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@gloomy mortar The point I have been making is that your fundamental error came in in this step (red arrow). Do you understand why I say that you shouldn't have done that

gloomy mortar
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Everything is plugged in the exact same as the equation

remote veldt
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yes. But you should not be plugging in anything that early

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you should isolate for the variable, and THEN plug in

harsh smelt
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AND ANYWAY

remote veldt
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you made algebraic errors because there were numbers there

harsh smelt
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are 3633 and 3138cosC similar terms of the equation?
@harsh smelt

remote veldt
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you subtracted non-similar terms, for example

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isolate first

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before there are ANY numbers

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and then plug in

harsh smelt
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can i add bananas and chairs?

remote veldt
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it will minimize these silly algebraic errors

viscid thistle
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yes. But you should not be plugging in anything that early
Exactly, which is what everyone has been telling you @gloomy mortar

gloomy mortar
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The equation is c²=a²+b²-2ab•cosC

harsh smelt
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advantages of operating with symbols:
easier to read
easier to parse
mimnal round-off-errors

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The equation is c²=a²+b²-2ab•cosC
yes

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we need cosC

gloomy mortar
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I plugged into that because that’s the equation I was given

viscid thistle
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...

remote veldt
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and we are saying to wait to plug in until AFTER you have isolated for the thing you want

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right now, that equation has c^2 isolated

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manipulate it until the isolated thing is C (or cos(C) if you prefer)

harsh smelt
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or. at least AcosC

gloomy mortar
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Okay well I wasn’t told that at the start I went with the equations I was given

viscid thistle
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We know

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Neither no one told you to plug those in

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But lesson learned, okay?

gloomy mortar
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I literally barely even know how this works how am I supposed to know not to plug it in from the start