#precalculus

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slender river
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what

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you can seperate products too right?

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the right bit would be 2log_2(y) + (1/2)log_2(z)

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so in total it should be $$\log_2 (x+1) - [2\log_2 (y) + \frac{1}{2}\log_2 (z)]$$

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aw cmon

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so in total it should be $$\log_2 (x+1) - [2\log_2 (y) + \frac{1}{2}\log_2 (z)]$$

granite stirrupBOT
slender river
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there

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you can even make everything base e using change of base formula too haha

wise umbra
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00f

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i just dont get logs for some reason, dont make sense to me, i might watch some khan xd

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also I have another problem

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=tex \log _b\left(\frac{\sqrt{x}y}{z^3w}\right)

granite stirrupBOT
wise umbra
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and would i get

granite stirrupBOT
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wise umbra
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=tex \log _b\left(\sqrt{x}y\right)-\left(z^3w\right)

granite stirrupBOT
fallen cloud
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that (z^3 * w) should also be in the logarithm of base b

wise umbra
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OH yeah i forgt

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but adding that in would make it correct, right/.

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yeah i remember that it would, thanks!

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So how would i do something like this

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=tex 81^{3x-4}=\frac{1}{243}

granite stirrupBOT
vapid oxide
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can someone make a log function that goes from (0,square root of 2) to (100, 34 power of 34)

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would be very much appreciated

spring thunder
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$$f : x \mapsto \sqrt{2}e^{\frac{\ln\left(\frac{34^{34}}{\sqrt{2}}\right)}{100}x}$$ hehe

granite stirrupBOT
spring thunder
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@vapid oxide

vapid oxide
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oh ok

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thanks mate

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also this is for configuring android screen brightness cause google changed the brightness slider from linear scale to log scale

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hmm

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not 0,sqrt2

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is k

spring thunder
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"also this is for configuring android screen brightness cause google changed the brightness slider from linear scale to log scale" dem

viscid thistle
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does anyone get this problem
tan(sin^-1 4/5 + tan ^-1 5/12

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$$f:
tan(sin^-1 4/5 + tan ^-1 5/12

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$$f: tan(sin^-1 4/5 + tan ^-1 5/12

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$$ tan(sin^-1 4/5 + tan ^-1 5/12

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=tex tan(sin^-1 4/5 + tan ^-1 5/12

granite stirrupBOT
fallen cloud
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well

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you know the tan sum formula?

viscid thistle
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uh yes, I believe so

fallen cloud
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then use it here, with arcsin(14/5) and arctan(15/12)

viscid thistle
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ah

wise umbra
viscid thistle
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tex = sin (2a) sin a = squareroot 6 /3

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= tex sin(2a) sin a = sqrt 6/ 3

granite stirrupBOT
viscid thistle
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how does one solve this

wise umbra
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idek LOL

viscid thistle
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lol

gaunt gate
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hey guys
how would I find the ln 1/radical(e)
wait wtf I cant post a picture of it?

solar abyss
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ln ( 1/ sqrt(e) ) = ln ( e^(-0.5) ) = -0.5

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@gaunt gate

gaunt gate
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how do I get that?

solar abyss
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u gotta use ... (hang on im typing)

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$$ log_{e} e^x = x $$

granite stirrupBOT
solar abyss
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$$ btw log_{e} is ln $$

granite stirrupBOT
solar abyss
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$$ log_{e} = ln $$

granite stirrupBOT
solar abyss
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also u gotta understand that 1/sqrt(e) is equal to e^(-0.5)

gaunt gate
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oh jeez

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its taking all my last 3 brain cells have got to try to understand that

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I know about log_e being the same as ln

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but im completly lost on how you got -.5

solar abyss
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ok so 1/sqrt(e) = 1/e^(0.5) agree?

gaunt gate
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ohh yeah 1/2 yup

solar abyss
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yep. 0.5 is same as 1/2. so do u understand the entire thing?

gaunt gate
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ohhh yeah

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I can use the rules

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to make it ln 1 - ln e^1/2

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ln of 1 is zero so 0 - .5 is .5

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thanks

solar abyss
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yup you could do it that way too

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np

gaunt gate
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I got kinda mixed up a bit since you used .5 and our teachers here despise decimals and everything they stand for

solar abyss
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woops my bad

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haha

gaunt gate
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no worries lmao thanks for the help!

wise umbra
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Heya! How would I solve the equation for this problem? :

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=tex 3^{x+1}=5^x

granite stirrupBOT
patent beacon
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Take the log of both sides:
(x + 1)log(3) = xlog(5)

Now this is linear in x. So, solve the normal way by isolating x:
xlog(3) - xlog(5) = -log(3)

x(log(3) + log(5)) = -log(3)

x = -log(3) / (log(3) + log(5))

wise umbra
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sorry i was afk.

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ok

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thanks! :)

floral tide
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daily duck problem for u guys

solar abyss
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quack

viscid thistle
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hey can I please get helo

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what is sin (a/2) when given sin a = 4/5

fringe stream
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$$\sin\left(\frac{a}{2}\right) = \pm\sqrt{\frac{1 - \cos a}{2}}$$

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$$\sin\left(\frac{a}{2}\right) = \pm\sqrt{\frac{1 - \cos a}{2}}$$

granite stirrupBOT
hot falcon
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@viscid thistle find cos(a) (sin^2a + cos^2a = 1) and then use the formula from the Math bot..

somber plaza
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@hot falcon am easier way would be to think of it geometrically and realise that it’s a 3-4-5 triangle

fallen cloud
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x^x, once upon a time i knew, that time is no longer here

gritty blaze
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Not a story, not a joke, #chill .

nimble oxide
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Hey, who here understands how to simplify trigonometric identities?

fallen cloud
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me

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wutcha need?

nimble oxide
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I am completely ... confused .... on When the denominator has a +/-1

fallen cloud
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the denominator should be 1-cos^2 (x)

nimble oxide
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But yeah I realized I added the last terms

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Instead of multiplying

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Lol

fallen cloud
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you know the identity of s^2 + c^2 = 1, (shortening sin to s and cosine to c

nimble oxide
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But how do o find out the numerator...

fallen cloud
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well

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lets stay on the denominator for now

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s^2 + c^2 = 1, hence s^2 = 1 - c^2

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which you can use to replace the bottom

nimble oxide
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Jugjhhhhhh

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I hate this unit so much

vast trellis
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I was told to use the Cramer’s rule to solve for x y and z but I noticed that the first two equations are almost opposites of each other. What can I do to make this easier or can I even make it easier

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I feel like instead of making 3 different matrices and solving for each one (which I did and I know it’s wrong) there’s a shortcut

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Can I combine the -2x and 5x equations together and solve by a 2 x 2 matrix?

hexed ermine
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Well notice if you add the first two equations youll get a false result

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0=3

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so you can say that the soe has no solutions

dim charm
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What’s a good way to find the number of solutions of sin(8x) + sin(12x) = 0 on the interval (0,2pi]

fallen cloud
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um

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set sin(8x) = sin(12x)

dim charm
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U mean sin(8x) = -sin(12x)

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@fallen cloud

fallen cloud
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yeah

dim charm
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Ok, then what

fallen cloud
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you could expand them... but

dim charm
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Um

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Rather not

fallen cloud
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i recommend mutliplying the domain of the left by 4 and the right side's domain by 4

dim charm
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?

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How does that help

fallen cloud
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so you get sin(2x) = -sin(3x), where x is from 0 to 8pi,

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but the values are the same every 2pi, so we will just have 4*the number of solutions that 0 to 2pi would have with the function sin(2x) = -sin(3x)

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then you can expand...

granite stirrupBOT
viscid thistle
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OOF

gaunt gate
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yo

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so um

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I need help with #61

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Im unsure as to how i would calculate it

hexed ermine
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A=Pe^(rt)

gaunt gate
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but P isnt given

hexed ermine
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Yes it is

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12000

gaunt gate
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oh fuk you're right

hexed ermine
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Y

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A

gaunt gate
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I missread that as A

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so I use A=pe^rt for all of them?

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just replacing t with the number right

hexed ermine
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Yes

gaunt gate
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thanks

flint lichen
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Could someone help me find two periods for 3sin(2x)?

hexed ermine
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Two periods?

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To evaluate the period of a sine functions you do 2pi/b

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In this cases it's just 2pi/2 or just pi

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There is no "two" periods

flint lichen
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Maybe I don’t fully understand what a period is then, may you please elaborate?

hexed ermine
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A period is the length of one cycle of the function

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A regular sin(x) graph has a cycle of 2pi

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After that it does the same thing

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After every 2pi, the graph repeats over and over

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When you have sin(bx), if |b|>1, the period is less due to the horizontal compression of the function

flint lichen
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That actually makes a lot of sense, thanks!

hexed ermine
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No problem

vast trellis
spring thunder
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waht are you stuck on? @vast trellis

vast trellis
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Finding the inverse @spring thunder using the coefficient matrix. I know the matrix is

1 1 1
4 3 -1
3 -1 -1

But where do I go from there

spring thunder
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are you allowed a calc for this ? (i guess not though)

west bramble
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The best way is probably to use row operations

west bramble
nocturne lake
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Alright. here are my assumptions:

trigFunction(x)=t
arcTrigFunction(t)=x
sin = Y value on the unit circle
cos = X value on the unit circle
tan = sin/cos = slope of the line on the unit circle

I was given:

sin(arccos(1/10))

Here is what I did to solve it:

I constructed a triangle with a length of 1 and a hypotonus of 10.
Using the pythagorean theorem, I found the triangle I constructed has a height of sqrt(99) = 3 sqrt(11)

The answer I gave was 3 sqrt(11)
The correct answer was (3 sqrt(11)/10

I would love a hand finding my mistake, thanks!

hexed ermine
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Well what is sin defined by

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Opposite/hypotenuse

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You found out what the opposite was, now you need to find what sin of that angle is,

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And you know opposite and hypotenuse

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Which is 3sqrt(11)/10

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You forgot to bring the 10 into play when it's the hypotenuse

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@nocturne lake

nocturne lake
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Awesome. Tried another one with different values.

cos(arcsin(5/11))
I found the adj. was 4sqrt(6)
Because cos is defined by adj/hyp the answer is (4sqrt(6))/11

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Thanks a bunch!

hexed ermine
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Yep!

calm cloud
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how do i find the initial value? P(0)

fringe copper
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Guys I think my teacher went nuts

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We had a math exam

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He asked 12 questions with at least 2 sections

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And gave 50 mins

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Now can someone tell me isn’t this regarded

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Isn’t this stupid***

opal lotus
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What do you mean

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Too little time you mean?

fringe copper
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Yeah

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Too little time

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How can you do 20 questions in 50 mins

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Which also has some graphing questions by the way

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@opal lotus

opal lotus
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i dunno depends on the questions, also i know some teachers who like to purposely make the tests hard so its easier to see how much they need to curve

vast drum
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I'm confused on a question.

55=60/1+5e^-0.6x

This is what I have so far, am I on the right track?

ln55=ln60-ln(1+5^-0.6x)

royal gull
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Can someone explain me the proof that there can't be more than 1 limit of any sequence?

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I saw a proof that used triangle inequality but didnt quite get it on my lectures

lofty slate
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@royal gull what do you mean by series

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like a sequence?

royal gull
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sequence* sry

lofty slate
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uh i dont remember it but im pretty sure this would be a #calculus question

royal gull
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Ok, will ask there, thanks

vast trellis
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Question. So let’s say you have the equation

Would this count as there being an infinite amount of solutions? If so, would would be the set? 4,-4?

hexed ermine
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Mhm

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If you multiply the second equation by -1 you will see that it's the same as the first line making it have the same equation for a line i.e. the same

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Or if you were to add the equations you'd get 0=0 giving you a linear dependent system

vast trellis
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So would I just put (0,0)?

hexed ermine
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Or I should say consistent dependent

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No

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Youd put infinitely many solutions

slender river
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they're the same line

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thus this "set" you mean is not really bounded

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wot n ternation

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what does that top part say about y.. arbitrary?

vast trellis
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Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

slender river
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oof idk that notation

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er rather how they want it

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sorry

vast trellis
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It’s fine

hexed ermine
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Hmm

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Try getting an ordered pair with a relation to y for x

vast trellis
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It’s one of those homework’s that you get x amount of questions, you turn it in all at once and then you get your results. I can redo the whole thing I just don’t want to get a question wrong and have to redo the whole homework

slender river
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yeah mathxl is sketchy i dont really like it (not just for that reason)

hexed ermine
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x=(2+4y)/3 correct

vast trellis
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? I didn’t get the equation for each one I just got them to cancel out

hexed ermine
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Put ((2+4y)/3, y) as the solution set

vast trellis
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Ok. I’ll try. Thanks

vast trellis
viscid thistle
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@vast trellis make a matrix first

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Then do gaussian elimination on it

hexed ermine
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Yeah I am just now seeing this

viscid thistle
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Remember to add a column for the rhs

hexed ermine
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Do what he said, or use your desired method of solving a system

viscid thistle
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@hexed ermine it says "solve using matrix"

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In problem statement

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So any form of matrix simplification works

hexed ermine
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Yeah you can use cramers rule and such you dont need to use gaussjordan or gaussian elimination

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But I agree, I would use RREF

viscid thistle
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👍

viscid thistle
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How does 5 become 5^2?

hexed ermine
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You mean 2^5

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They used the log rule

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log_a(b)=c is the same as a^c=b

viscid thistle
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Yeah

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Thank you

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Also why why does log base 2 disappear in the next step?

vapid oxide
olive meteor
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How to turn 5/3 radians into terms of pi?

hexed ermine
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*pi/180

vast trellis
severe verge
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lol

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there are ways to make good math word problems

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but all these seem so low effort tbh

olive meteor
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@hexed ermine so 1/2 radians would be pi/360 in terms of pi?

severe verge
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so forced

viscid thistle
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How do i got about solving this?

vast trellis
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Is this logs?

viscid thistle
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Yes

vast trellis
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Ahh...I remember logs...it was like 2 months ago. I think I know but let me check my notes just in case

viscid thistle
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Cool thanks

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Im really stuck on this one lol

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I think have to write out something like y=ka^x

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With y being the richter level

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K being the constant

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A being the growth factor

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And x being the amount

vast trellis
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So in this case, they’re saying that the base is 10 and your x is 5.2

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Sorry I had to do something lol

viscid thistle
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Okag np

vast trellis
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I’m like back and forth /:

viscid thistle
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Its cool

hexed ermine
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You are finding x I believe

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y=10^x where y represents an increase of a unit, and x is the level

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2=10^x, log(2)=x

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==log(2)

granite stirrupBOT
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log(2)/log(10) = 0.301029995663981

hexed ermine
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==.301+5.2

granite stirrupBOT
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5501/1000 = 5.501

viscid thistle
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Ohhhhh

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Thanks so much

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The words just disnt register in my head

hexed ermine
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This means that an earthquake that is twice as strong results in a 5.5 level earthquake

viscid thistle
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Thanks alot

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Is that how the richter scale actually works btw?

hexed ermine
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You are comparing it to 5.2 so you want to negate that till the end, y=10^x only represents the Richter level from the intensity

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Yep!

viscid thistle
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Thats pretty cool

hexed ermine
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Anyways yeah, if you wanted to find a level for an earthquake that is triple the strength you do log(3)

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And add that to whatever scale you have

viscid thistle
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Cool

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Now i know how the richter scale works

hexed ermine
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Hehe

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Btw nice profile picture

viscid thistle
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Thanks, i cant even remember what meme i got it from

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Its been so long

vast trellis
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Thanks pjs I had to go do something irl rip

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Still kanda afk

viscid thistle
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Thanks for trying to help though

hexed ermine
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👍

violet kelp
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=tex 2

granite stirrupBOT
solid reef
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#13?

austere matrix
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k

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sin(cos^-1(3/5)-sin^-1(5/13))

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is my problem

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=tex \sin(\arccos{\frac{3}{5}}-\arcsin{\frac{5/13}})

granite stirrupBOT
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Rendering failed. Check your code. You can edit your existing message if needed.

austere matrix
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woops

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=tex \sin(\arccos(\frac{3}{5})-\arcsin(\frac{5/13}))

granite stirrupBOT
austere matrix
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ok sorry jesus

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=tex \sin(\arccos \frac{3}{5} -\arcsin(\frac{5/13})

granite stirrupBOT
austere matrix
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close enough

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can anyone help me here? i'm absolutely lost

earnest finch
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Sorry my next unit in precalc is literally trig but I am not there yet

limber bone
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no body likes trig anyways

finite iris
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trig is pretty o:

rocky bison
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@austere matrix

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still stuck

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?

buoyant knot
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@austere matrix hint: addition formulae

scenic eagle
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Power of an earthquake is given by Richters scale with Richters number R. If E is energy measured in Joules, then the Richter number is given by R (E) = 0.67 * log(E) - 2.9

This is a common log.

a) Find the Richter number to an energy of 4.4*10^15 J.
b) An earthquake was measured 5.4 on the Richters scale. Find the earthquake's energy.
c) Another earthquake was measured 9.5 on the Richters scale. How many times bigger was the energy of this earthquake compared to the first earthquake?

spring thunder
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Your site uses a "real" seismographic formula (more precise i mean), just follow the approximation the exercise gives you @scenic eagle

scenic eagle
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alright thx

stone atlas
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derivatives help you find the instantaneous rate of change at a given point right?

viscid thistle
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yes

mighty trellis
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hey guys

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i need help with synthetic division

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i just have a quick question

viscid thistle
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whats the question

sullen shoal
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Solved

viscid thistle
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o

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Need an help frens

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b=1/4?

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a=1 confirm

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(-6,-2)

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I did b wrong but how da hell the verticies wrong thonker

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<@&286206848099549185>

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-7 smaller than -5

slender river
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hmm

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idk thats kind of weird

viscid thistle
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Only option is to put them in wrong backwards and hope is correct

slender river
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perhaps

viscid thistle
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fuck me of course it doesn't tell me i used a period

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fucking shitty software

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@slender river

slender river
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oh shit i didnt even notice

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i thought it was like poor quality lol

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oof

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that's so sad

viscid thistle
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feelsbad cuz sent to professor and shows im dumb

slender river
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oof

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does he/she do partial credit

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like

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you have the numbres correct

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just keyboard being domb

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dis y i dont really like online math hw programs/websites

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can't account for formatting errors unless they only make the blanks for numbers and numbers only which is also annoying

turbid barn
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Hey

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What's a good list of topics I should know before calculus

patent beacon
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Each of the elementary functions
-polynomials/rationals/radicals
-trig and trig identities
-exponentials and logarithms

Understand domains of functions, continuity of functions, how to compose functions

Be up on your algebra. Know how to manipulate rational functions. Putting everything over one denominator is a common trick

turbid barn
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Thanks!

slender river
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especially with algebra you want to be comfortable with working and manipulating loads of terms because stuff like implicit differentiation becomes very ugly very fast

hoary yoke
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@twilit willow hello

twilit willow
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Hallu

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The options were given (2x+1)(1-x)^2

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(1-x)^2/(2x+1)

limber bone
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dy/dx * dx/du = dy/du

twilit willow
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Chains rule right?

limber bone
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y

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dy/dx * dx/du = dy/du

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know this

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then u can answer ur prob

hoary yoke
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Yep

twilit willow
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Is it the rearrangement of chain's rule?

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Never mind it isn't

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Okayy lemme try it out

hoary yoke
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Or you can do harder

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And seperate x

limber bone
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then sub in

hoary yoke
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Then put that u thing in y

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Yup

twilit willow
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Wait so fast

limber bone
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never mind this way

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its harder

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dy/dx * dx/du = dy/du

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what if

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u have du/dx?

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what do u do

twilit willow
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Find the derivative right?

limber bone
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you found the deriv

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and u have

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du/dx

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and dy/dx

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how can u find dy/du?

twilit willow
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Mutiply them togethjer

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Multiply them*

limber bone
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du/dx * dy /dx ?

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are u sure

twilit willow
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its dx/du not du/d

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x

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okay

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hmmmm

limber bone
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show me

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the 2

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functions

twilit willow
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y=x^2+x

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and 1/(1-x)

limber bone
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ok so

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why

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what

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what = 1/1-x?

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u?

twilit willow
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yes

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sorry

limber bone
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y = x^2 + x

twilit willow
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u=1/(1-x)

limber bone
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ok

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what do u have when u differenciate with respect to x

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for the first function

twilit willow
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2x+1

hoary yoke
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Dy/dx=2x+1

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Correc4

limber bone
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so u have dy/dx

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ok

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what happens when u diff the other 1

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?

twilit willow
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and we need dx/du

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you get (1-x)^-2

limber bone
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what do u get

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ye what is it

hoary yoke
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Marwan

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No

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You will get du/dx

limber bone
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yes

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?

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did i say something wrong

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or what

hoary yoke
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You need dy/du

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Not dydu/dx^2

limber bone
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u cant multiply them

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ye thats

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i know this thats why

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i asked him the question

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what if
u have du/dx?
what do u do

twilit willow
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Do I have to switch them?

limber bone
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y

hoary yoke
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u=1/(1-x)multiply both sides by 1-x

twilit willow
#

Yea

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So then I will get -1

hoary yoke
#

=>u(1-x)=1

twilit willow
#

For dx/du

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Sorry I did

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du/dx

hoary yoke
#

1-x=1/u

limber bone
#

-x=1/u+1

hoary yoke
#

X=1-1/u

limber bone
#

x=-1/u-1

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sub in that for the first function

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and differenciate

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instead of chain rule

hoary yoke
#

Marwan...

limber bone
#

?

hoary yoke
#

x=1-1/u

limber bone
#

oh ye sry

#

lol

hoary yoke
#

Now plug that x for y=x^2+x

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Y=(1-1/u)^2-1/u+1

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Dy/du=2(1-1/u)/u^2+1/u^2

twilit willow
#

OHhhh

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okay

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Got it

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(2x+1)/(1-x^2)

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Right?

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Thanks guys

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I understand it now!

half spruce
#

Is this the right subchat for this?

#

got to 2*(7^x)-3*(2^x)-43*(1/7)(2^x)(sqrt(7^x))>0

limber bone
#

u want to simplify?

half spruce
#

my friend simplified it dividing by (2^x) but I honestly have no clue how he got to that 😄

#

so consider this one solved I guess

limber bone
#

thats an ugly one

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gl

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lol

remote musk
#

@half spruce have you studied log or ln functions?

neon vale
patent beacon
#

@neon vale
What's wrong with x - (1 + 2i) as a factor?

neon vale
#

Nvm got it @patent beacon ty

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But I do need help again

patent beacon
#

What's up?

neon vale
#

@patent beacon idk how to use the zeros to figure out the function

patent beacon
#

= a(x + 3)(x - 1)(x - 3)

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Then you need f(0) = -3 to find a

stone atlas
#

i think you should also keep in mind that since it goes from quadrant 2 to quadrant 4, the a value is going to be negative

neon vale
#

I still don’t get it

#

What even is a

neon vale
#

Nvm got it

earnest finch
#

I'm doing logs and exponentials rn

#

Trig next unit :'(((

hexed ermine
#

If you need help let me know

timid willow
#

yo guys
i got a question
find the vertex form
of an equation with root 9+i
and passes through 1,-5
how do i solve

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@hexed ermine

blazing raven
#

er first what kind of shape is it?

hexed ermine
#

If 9+i is a root, 9-i is also a root

turbid barn
#

this also applies to sqrt(n)-m and sqrt(n)+m because polynomials can't have terms with non whole number coefficients.

plush peak
#

Hey

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Im trying to find out if a function is pair or impair

#

If I give the x values like 3 and -3

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and it comes out to the same answer in both cases

#

its pair right?

spring thunder
#

(Français?)

turbid barn
#

Yeah. So a function like x^2 is even (in English it's even/uneven)

#

Spanish also has par/impar

spring thunder
#

Well if that property is true for any x yup

plush peak
#

For example

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I have

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1-root(1-x^2)

#

I gave it a value of 3 and then -3 and both of them came out to be 1-root(1-9)

spring thunder
#

3 isn't in the domain of that function tho, if you only consider real outputs

plush peak
#

what would be the vertical asymptote for 16/x^2+4?

hexed ermine
#

Nothing

#

It would be imaginary asymptotes

plush peak
#

I placed the function on desmos and it gave me a weird graph

#

So I got confused

turbid barn
#

Oh it's because it has no asymptotes if you add a number to x^2

hexed ermine
#

A vertical asymptote is where its undefined

#

i.e. the denominator is 0

#

setting x^2+4=0, you get imaginary x values so in the reals, there are no asymptotes

fickle moat
#

I got 24

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But

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Is this correct way to find period?

#

<@&286206848099549185>

hexed ermine
#

2pi/(pi/12)

fickle moat
#

24¿

gaunt gate
#

imma sound really dumb but

#

whats x/-2x

viscid thistle
#

-1/2 for x =/ 0

gaunt gate
#

im lost

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im really dumb btw so you'll have to explain again lmao

viscid thistle
#

In your pfp, it's a shinobi but who? His or her face us stretched out

gaunt gate
#

Itachi

viscid thistle
#

I see it now...

#

Itachi-sama

fallen cloud
#

itchy-sama hm

#

i wonder

gaunt gate
#

I also have a picture of Light

#

thats similar

#

its in chill

austere matrix
#

...

viscid thistle
#

Light

solid reef
#

15?

viscid thistle
#

maybe substitute?

serene heath
#

@solid reef write your circle equation in the form $$x^2+y^2+ax+by+c=0$$

#

now you have 3 unknowns and 3 points to plug in

#

find the values of a,b and c and rearrange into required form

granite stirrupBOT
viscid thistle
#

what does "one-one mean for logarthimics

thick raptor
#

one input → one output

earnest finch
#

Doing logs here too

#

NEXT UNIT TRIG 😢

viscid thistle
patent beacon
#

All functions are one-input → one-output.

The important thing about one-to-one functions is that each input gets its own output

#

log100 = 2
Since logs are one-to-one, I know that 2 is the only input that has an output of 100

thick raptor
#

uh

#

oh yeah that's gud

viscid thistle
#

yo

#

where's the set theory channel?

thick raptor
#

or one of the other channels if it fits better there

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

viscid thistle
#

I see I see

#

Kk thx

#

Also

#

Where does the underlined portion come from

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<@&286206848099549185>

thick raptor
viscid thistle
#

ok

patent beacon
#

@viscid thistle
Try taking the line beneath it, and distributing -1/15 in

viscid thistle
#

ah i see

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thanks

viscid thistle
#

Oof trig

#

do yall know any good practice problem websites for precal?

hallow tide
#

f(x)=-sin((1/2)x) transformed 0.5 units left.

shell salmon
#

horizontal translation is -c/b

hallow tide
#

nice

sharp sleet
#

nvm i got it

#

took me an hour but still

wise umbra
#

Hi I have a trig question :)

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A train is traveling at the rate of 40 miles an hour on a curve of two-mile radius. Through what angle does it turn in 22 seconds?

solar abyss
#

ok fren

#

seems easy i will try

wise umbra
#

lol thanks

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i may have worked it out

solar abyss
#

tell me what working u have

wise umbra
#

15.756 degrees?

steep shell
#

yeah doesn't seem too terrible

wise umbra
#

or am i way off

solar abyss
#

@steep shell when r u gonna let the poor goldfish go...

steep shell
#

when it gives me my goddamn money

wise umbra
#

lol

solar abyss
wise umbra
solar abyss
#

hey so the train is travelling on a circle of radius 2?

wise umbra
#

yes

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you see im dumb and dont know how to plug things in

#

i presume

steep shell
#

arc length should be miles per second * 22 seconds

solar abyss
#

so the obvious next time, i'd imagine, is to figure out what distance the train travelled

wise umbra
#

oh so you divide the 2 miles into 1 but why to the power of 22

solar abyss
#

1 hour has 60 mintues, each minute has 60 seconds, so 60*60 = 3600 seconds

steep shell
#

i mean x 22

wise umbra
#

oh ok

steep shell
#

i've been doing a lot of coding in MatLab and * is used for multipication

wise umbra
#

sorry :oof:

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yeah i forget its like 12am and im tired

steep shell
#

all good

wise umbra
#

oh so thats how ou do the hour thing

#

what would i put for the circumpherence

solar abyss
#

so train travels 40 miles in 3600 seconds, hence 40/3600 miles in 1 second, hence (40/3600)*22 miles in 22 seconds feel me

wise umbra
#

Ohhhhh

solar abyss
#

yes fren

#

t!dog

brisk micaBOT
#

🐶 | Here is your random dog:

wise umbra
#

OK fren

#

t!cat

brisk micaBOT
#

🐱 | Here is your random cat:

wise umbra
#

yas

solar abyss
#

so ur final answer should be [ (40/3600)*22 / 2(pi)(2) ] * 360 in degrees fren

wise umbra
#

why u so good fren

solar abyss
#

becuz fren

#

i studee de meth in uni

wise umbra
#

o fren

#

i dumbs fren

#

sophmore in hs

#

trying to survive the wrath

#

but thanks

solar abyss
#

np fren

wise umbra
#

de meth 😂

#

i cant lmao

solar abyss
#

kek

wise umbra
alpine portal
#

Don't know why its wrong...??

spring thunder
#

cause your answer is in miles/min

alpine portal
#

Ooh

#

thx

spring thunder
#

👌

nimble oxide
#

who here can explain the process of Double angle and half- angle identifications to me?

viscid thistle
#

can someone help me build my quadratic equation?
-> "$70 for one hotdog, and i sold 2000 hotdogs, if for every $1 i decrease my hotdog price i sell 50 more"

#

im assuming 2000 = 70....

#

but dont know how to translate $1 and 50 doggies

turbid barn
#

Is a hyperbola the inverse function of y=1/x?

chilly matrix
#

Guys

#

If I know -6 is a zero of a polynomial equation.

#

How would I find k of f(x)=4x^4 + 3x^3 - kx^2 -x + 16

thick raptor
#

Plug in x=-6

prime prawn
#

If r = ln3 and s = ln5, write ln (0.24) in terms of r and s.

#

I got to the point of ln2+r-2s

#

How do youu simplify further?

#

@viscid thistle Help a fellow pokemon player.

#

<@&286206848099549185>

viscid thistle
#

Pokemon!

#

Linguist, I think it's fine like that....

willow vine
#

I need help

#

discord is fucked right now

#

aaaaaah

#

<@&286206848099549185>

#

youll have to open the link to view it

#

i think these are like all wrong

#

log things

fringe stream
#

thought embeds were working :/

#

anyway

willow vine
#

discords broken

#

am I overthinking it

fringe stream
#

please wait 15 minutes before pinging helpers

willow vine
#

oh

#

sorry

fringe stream
#

2 and 3 are not right

willow vine
#

all

#

?

#

ok so I think

fringe stream
#

d is fine

willow vine
#

if im correct

fringe stream
#

a, b, c are not

willow vine
#

a. should be x

#

b. should be 1

#

c should be right for 2

#

because a^0=1

fringe stream
#

you're right about a and b ^

#

not c

willow vine
#

wat

#

whats c then

#

for 3 a should be right

#

and b

#

c should be x

fringe stream
#

$$\log_b 1 = ? \leftrightarrow b^? = 1$$

granite stirrupBOT
fringe stream
#

what would ? be then

#

what's the power you can raise any number (except 0) to, to get 1?

willow vine
#

umm

#

idk

fringe stream
#

it would be good for you to revise exponents

willow vine
#

can you help me

#

I have a test tomorrow

#

my math teacher talked about this yesterday for 5 minutes

#

And said its on the test

#

ok well nvm

#

well mathway says its 0

opaque bay
#

0^0=1?

fickle moat
#

i have a question
complimentary angle is 90 degree ; pi/2
supplimentary angle is 180 degree ; pi

#

?

opaque bay
#

ye but geo

fickle moat
#

trig

#

i am in pre-calc

opaque bay
#

wrong channel

#

put it in trig

viscid thistle
#

=wolf 0^0

granite stirrupBOT
crystal current
#

i need help finding a formula for this

#

it's due in 15 min.

#

long run behavior is implying the degree should be x^4 but theres only 3 zeros wtf?

lost cipher
#

u have the right idea

#

it's pretty much asking you what the lowest even number is given that it's bigger than or equal to 3

crystal current
#

should i try (x+1)(x-6)(x-7)? and then find a with (0,11)?

lost cipher
#

remember you can have (x+1) to any power or an additional zero (they don't say that those are the only zeroes)

crystal current
#

i tried x(x+1)(x-6)(x-7)+11 but that was wrong lol

lost cipher
#

the reason why that doesn't work is because if you plug in -1, the product becomes zero but the +11 makes it not 0

#

you want to set it up like this: a(x+1)(x-6)(x-7)

crystal current
#

mkay, but shouldnt the degree be at least 4

#

because they stated the limit

lost cipher
#

yup so i think you can do a(x+1)^2(x-6)(x-7) or a(x+1)(x-6)^2(x-7)

crystal current
lost cipher
#

or a(x+1)(x-6)(x-7)^2

#

or add a new zero

crystal current
#

ill try these quickly i have 9 min

lost cipher
#

and then once you choose one, plug in x=0 to find the value for a

crystal current
#

okay thank you

lost cipher
#

hold on

#

it's a(x+1)^2(x-6)(x-7)

#

since it's positive when x=0

#

meaning that it had to bounce back up at x=-1

#

(assuming a is positive)

#

nvm you can choose whatever

crystal current
#

that was right! tyvm @lost cipher

#

appreciate it

lost cipher
#

np

viscid thistle
#

=tex \lim_{\theta \to 0} \frac{\theta}{\sin(\theta)}

granite stirrupBOT
rocky bison
#

You need dat help @viscid thistle

#

?

thick raptor
rocky bison
#

@thick raptor You ready for some hopital

thick raptor
rocky bison
#

You lucky he's gone 👀

serene heath
#

out of curiosity, how would you work that limit out?

#

i know its 1 but my method is iffy

rocky bison
#

Divide top and bottom by theta

serene heath
#

and you cant use l'hopitals right?

rocky bison
#

Then you've got 1/sin(x)/x

#

=tex \frac{x}{\sin(x)}\equiv\left(\frac{\sin(x)}{x}\right)^{-1}

granite stirrupBOT
rocky bison
#

You can use hopital

#

It's just

#

Really dumb too

#

hence the joke

#

sin(x)/x is then a known limit

#

Which is commonly given as almost an identity

serene heath
#

sorry could you elaborate

#

on why its dumb

thick raptor
#

One sec

rocky bison
#

Because it's use in defining the derivative of sin for example

serene heath
#

lol

rocky bison
#

So you're defining the derivative of sin(x)

#

by differentiating sin(x)

#

Which is a bit

#

And hopital is quite often frowned upon tbh

serene heath
#

hmm

rocky bison
#

It's just kinda like a clutch way out

#

But it does work

thick raptor
#

@serene heath okay so to use L'H, you need to take the derivative of sin(x)

#

What is the definition of the derivative

rocky bison
#

Here he comes about to repeat what I said thonker

serene heath
#

uhm the slope of the tangent at that point?

thick raptor
#

What is the definition in terms of limits

serene heath
#

oh

#

the formula thing

rocky bison
#

=tex f'(x)=\lim_{\delta x\to0}\left(\frac{f(x+\delta x)-f(x)}{\delta x}\right)

granite stirrupBOT
thick raptor
#

sure that

serene heath
#

yes that

#

ik that

viscid thistle
#

Change that delta x to h

thick raptor
#

So

#

To take the derivative of sin(x)

rocky bison
#

nah @viscid thistle thonker

thick raptor
#

we are, by definition doing the above limit

rocky bison
#

Use hopital again 👀

serene heath
#

yes

thick raptor
#

=tex \sin'(x)=\lim_{h\to0}\frac{\sin(x+h)-\sin(x)}h

granite stirrupBOT
rocky bison
#

Sin to the power of '

serene heath
#

lol

thick raptor
#

Not only does solving this limit require solving the original problem

viscid thistle
rocky bison
#

So to solve this

#

We just use hopital again

thick raptor
#

but it also requires solving other stuff too

rocky bison
#

Because it's easier

thick raptor
rocky bison
#

👀

serene heath
#

ya i kinda get what you mean

#

but surely thats just being mathematically pedantic

viscid thistle
#

To solve, expand sin(x + h) with trig identity then do other manipulations and vua la

thick raptor
#

@serene heath think of it like this

#

you ask me to find a limit

#

I tell you the answer

#

you ask why

#

I tell you "because this"

#

you ask "why that"

#

I tell you "because answer to your limit is this"

#

See how I'm avoiding the problem entirely?

serene heath
#

yes, youre bein a lazy mathematician

viscid thistle
#

Basically, you answer the why

serene heath
#

i get what you mean

thick raptor
#

Generally speaking, you're not allowed to use "because the answer to the problem is ___"

#

when solving that problem

#

that literally makes no sense

serene heath
#

i see

#

cheers for the explanation

thick raptor
#

If you want explanation of how to actually solve the limit I can give u that

#

It essentially stems from this picture

viscid thistle
#

Khan academy can explain the above picture if you're confused wizard

thick raptor
#

meh imo pretty straight forward

viscid thistle
#

What's an rps

rocky bison
#

t!wiki rps

brisk micaBOT
serene heath
#

na its fine i get it

gaunt rose
#

rps looks like a Riemann surface / torus of some kind

#

nvm don't think its a torus on closer inspection, too small to see though

viscid thistle
#

Are the values correct? Range is the one I am least confident about

#

3x/(7x -9) is the inverse

#

domain is right

#

$$ f\left(x\right)<\frac{3}{7}\quad \mathrm{or}\quad :f\left(x\right)>\frac{3}{7} $$

granite stirrupBOT
viscid thistle
#

range is above

#

@viscid thistle see above, my comments

#

I'm so dumb

#

so its defined for all values except where the denominator would equal zero

near valve
#

yes, so your domain is correct

#

However, to find the range, you need to look at this inverse function when x approaches positive infinity and when x approaches negative infinity\

#

that's how you could get the range for this problem

viscid thistle
#

so its going to be (3/7, infinity) (- infinity, 3/7)?

gaunt rose
#

the domain of the function is the range of the inverse

#

so where the denominator of f(x) = 0

#

is the point not in the range

near valve
#

@viscid thistle yes, what you just wrote would be the range

viscid thistle
#

Am I supposed to expand the expression on the right and then use the change of base formula?

earnest finch
#

Nah

#

The fastest way for me to do it is ln on both sides

#

Then you can use the exponent properties to bring the exponents in front of the lns

#

Then it just becomes a linear equation from there and you solve for x

viscid thistle
#

so I have 5x(log13)= (x+8)(Log3)

#

I'm stuck here and dont know how to factor it futher

near valve
#

5x(log13) - x(log3) = 8(log3)

#

then you can solve for x from there

viscid thistle
#

Got it!

#

I have a trig question if your down

#

does this look correct?

tribal wharf
#

looks right

viscid thistle
#

someone told me this "Rotate the whole thing across the x axis -- cos(x - pi/2) = -sin(x). because if you shift cos(x) right by pi/2, the graph doesn’t start going up from (0,0), it should go down

type into google “graph 3cos(x - pi/2)”

tribal wharf
#

uh

#

whoever told you that was wrong

#

theyre misunderstanding the way translations work

#

or no theyre

#

i dont know what theyre doing but cosx has y=1 at 0

#

so shift right by pi/2 and the slope is positive because youre approaching that peak at 0

viscid thistle
#

Maybe they had COS mixed up with SIN

#

I'm not sure why they thought that either

#

Does this solution look correct to you?

tribal wharf
#

Uhhh

#

No

#

2pi isn’t in the interval

#

0 is though

#

there’s also probably another solution

#

since sinx is squared

hexed ermine
#

Convert sin^2(x) to 1-cos^2(x)

#

4cos(x)=-(1-cos^2(x))+4

#

cos(x)=u

#

4u=u^2-1+4

#

4u=u^2+3

#

u^2-4u+3

#

Factor the quadratic

#

(u-3)(u-1)

#

cos(x)-3=0 ; cos(x)-1=0

#

cos(x)=3 ; cos(x)=1

#

cos(x) has range [-1, 1] so 3 is undefined

#

cos(x)=1 is at 0 and 2pi

#

but since 2pi is not in the interval just use 0

viscid thistle
#

Thats a really nice explanation

#

thanks for breaking it all down

hexed ermine
#

No problem

viscid thistle
#

Still digging the farquad picture man

#

makes me laugh

hexed ermine
#

LOL

#

I always alternate through my pfps

#

Some days you will see me as Human Shrek some days as Farquaad

viscid thistle
#

any of the shrek charecters are golden

#

maybe the gingerbread man

#

or prince charming

#

so I guess I could just take this in two parts
and plug the arctan value into the sin function
is the answer -4/5?

jagged gorge
#

how do i find the area of the shaded region?

#

and is it the same if it's transform onto a different grid?

viscid thistle
#

yes

#

you need to calculate the integral from 1 to 2 of (y^2-3y+2)

#

I got 1/6

jagged gorge
#

cool thanks

#

wait hold on i still don't get it why is it the same if it's transform to a different grid?

smoky prawn
#

Like its basically the same same graph

viscid thistle
#

Does this look correct?

spring thunder
#

seems right ye

viscid thistle
#

pretty sure h*h-1 is wrong

#

How do we conceptualize multiplying a function by its inverse?

#

I mean whats the intuition about it

mellow matrix
#

the answer is 2

spring thunder
#

it's not multiplication tho

mellow matrix
#

if you apply its inverse, then apply the original, you get the input back

#

pretty sure

viscid thistle
#

because the inverse function undoes what the first one does?

spring thunder
#

yus

viscid thistle
#

so no matter what our functions are, we will always get back the input in this scenario?

spring thunder
#

if an inverse function exists yes

viscid thistle
#

ahhh

#

so they tell use they are one to one

#

so that we know that is the case

#

are they other answers ok?

spring thunder
#

yea seems right

viscid thistle
#

sweet

#

this look right?

#

I chose the square brackets because its inclusive for 2

mellow matrix
#

yep

spring thunder
#

👌

viscid thistle
#

alright alright alright