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so i would first fifferentiate with chain rule and then do the product rule? and then the result of the product rule would allow me to common factor?
yeah
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#calculus , or even better claim your own personal channel #āhow-to-get-help
I'm currently in 10th grade, what are the main things you learn in percalc 11 and 12?
um, so im in precalc but im not sure why yours is like split into two grades
im in an ap class so its got a standardized curicullum for one year long... um, but i guess i can give you the list of units we're learning. though im not sure if its different?
What country r u in?
US
Im in canada
The list would be great
okay! our ap precalc course has 4 units
which are these
so the first one is like... graphing polynomials (quadratics and cubics and such. sketches, based on zeroes and multiciplity, same with rationals, graphing. as well as finding zeroes. a bunch of algebra work)
inverses as well i think? which carried into unit 2 where we learned about graphing exponentials, finding key features of them
and unit 2 was also learningabout the inverse of exponential which is a type of graph called log. so also learning properties of how to manipualte it
Wait i have to wait till precalc to be taught logarithms?
and my class is right at the start of unit 3 which is trig work. eg: modeling with functions, key features, graphing, transforms of them, unit circle (kind of review of past course tbh)
uhhh it might be taught in earlier courses
O alr
the way ap precalc works at my school is you can skip integrated 3 (progression is 1 is lowest, up to 3) if you take integrated 2 and get an A, so its just review. log was a integrated 3 topic but not everyone in my class learned it because some skipped rom int 2 to precalc
but i remember learning it in 8th grade when i took int3
cus they're pretty simple. and precalc kinda expands on logs with like, quadratics inside, extraneous, u substitution, and such
and, i dont reallllyyy know whats in unit4, cus we haven't learned that yet
Oh alr
oh unit 2 was also like sequences like arithimetic and geometric
seems to cover most of the same topics (BASED ON GOOGLE AI OVERVIEW THO)
like algebraic manipulations of functions basically
like f(x-3) shifts 3 to the right, f(x)+3 shifts up 3
so sin(2x) makes graph dilate by 1/2
and such
stuff like that
not too bad
So just changing the numbers around?
uhh yeah
As a barebones explanation ofc
dilating and moving left, right, up, down
as well as maybe the asymptote changes. its kind of just a fundamental thing to keep in the back of ur mind
ah xd youre welcome
lwk idrk either im kinda just winging this class
so i can take calc š„
Well gl!
Is there a difference?
ab is like first semester of college calc (roughly)
bc is like second semester of college calc (roughly)
O
but bc covers all the ab stuff and more
but, if i skip to BC, ill only have precalc and BC and i need 3 years of math to go to a decent college š
soooo AB and BC it is
I dont think i can reasonably go to a decent college
At least thats close
im just aiming for like the UCs which is ah like public university in my state
so i need 3 yrs of math by their reqs
I wanna go into theoretical physics or pure math but my local university's classes are assš
Cs?
we have a locak university but its just a community college (so its highk buns)
comp sci
What does comp mean cuz what i think it means makes no sense for the context
Oh. Sorry. Stands for computer
Oh
Basically just coding and like how a computer works type stuff
Isnt the job market for that dying
Yupppppp
it isssss
sighhhhh
thats why im considering applied math tho idk if the job market for that is cooked too
welp igs i gotta lock in or sum shi
i have a precalc quiz tmrw and i have pe (running the mile) too sob
What timezone are you inš
oh xd
wow
well
i usually go to bed at like midnight xd cus else ik its not worth studying if im gonna fall asleep halfway thru a test
oh lol
i only study
for precalc
mostly
my other classes i dont really needa cus freshie classes are easy ash icl
We're doing slop for the rest of gr10 math so at least i can 7se that to do my physics work
lolll
i see
my math teacher says we gotta lock in for the ap exam š but my bio class is easy so i use that time to do my hw whenever she gives us free time lmao
O
yeah lol tho i heard gr10 science is kinda hard (like chem or smt)
I wasnt in gr10 science!
Apparently from what ive heard its slop anyways from ppl around here
our school is kinda weird too like bio then chem then physics igs
which other ppl told me is weird lol
I was put into bio 11 1st semester cuz norm sci 10 was full
And now im in phys 11
damn
um good for you i guess lol
our school tells us not to do physics until 11th cus like of the math not being taught lmao (ones algebra based the other is calculus based) not that it matters to me but i gues to the regular track kids who r failing
Thats odd
Most advanced thing i saw on the full course formula sheet was the quadratic formula
lol wild
i heard ap physics 1 (the algebra one) is like really easy tho
here the regular track takes like integrated 2 in 10th grade which ik covers quadratic formula lol and then 11th can take physics
What
like i learned ts in like 7th grade
my course made us watch this like 15 minute long video
about how to go from completing the square
to the quadratic formula
and i took online math in 8th grade so uh it was highkey impossible to skip it i js sat thru it like "i dont understand ts"
but alr lol
Oh i thought they made u derive it from scratch for a secondš
lol no thank god
i never rlly paid attention so that would have been erm
soooo fun and greatttt for my grade (at least they never saw me cus it was online so i could like gpt here and there)
Did u do the complex plane yet
Wtf
All i learned in gr8 was pythag theoremš
i took integrated 2 and 3 online
Amyways i gtg cya
cya glgl
š
Lwk thatās what the āadvancedā 8th grade track at my school got taught too. Integrated 1 was like slope intercept form and pythag theorem type shi ⦠no quadratics or nothing ⦠glad I got out of it lol
I see
Very advanced
Thats too advanced
We learn pythag in england when we are 12-14
yeah so 8TH grade 12 yo
isnt 8th grade 13
Yh depends ig
Whether ur born early or latly and when
i suppose
@knotty slate @honest hornet
Welcome to Mathcord, new nerds
Why did you ping HELPERS
It was like the highest u could take (int1 = 9th grade) in 8th and the other track was js math 8 which was regular
Ahoy ladies and gentlemen
I am taking MIT OCW Single variable
Calc
So I find it doable but my pre calc is weak any tips?
practice uour trig stuff
your identities and stuff
itās very important in calc
Any lecture for good base?
I can do calc easily but pre calc kills me
Covers everything?
what do you struggle with in precalc
Especially trigonometry
!help
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wverythjng except the hyperbolic trig functions
you may need to find yt vids
for that
Sure buddy,
Once trigono is done then it wont take long to finish other stuff
Appreciate for your help
sinx as y coord and cosx as x coord of a unit circle?
Well can you also suggest me a course for like geometry as well. Mine geometry is very weak
Oh yeah I get it then we eqaute it to e^itheta
mine is too i donāt really have a course for that
yeah
I will keep that in mind
it comes up in the later parts of calc
Well let me seek help on other places then I can suggest it to you
i have a book iām reading maybe it helps
Like I am planning to give SAT in three months so Geometry is one of the,
Which one?
i kinda forgot the name iāll get back to you on that
but it covers everything in amc aime and stuff
Calculus to gain expertise so I can get into good uni
No problem.
it has geomtry number theory combinatorics
if you know your basics for geomtry
Sounds to be pretty advance
Triangle and circles are the problem everything else still works fine
Sure buddy thanks again
Key word basic⦠at the level yes it is simple to understand differentiation and integration when youāre older you may learn derivations and formulas and deeper concepts⦠also vro y r u on discordā¦
Because Iām mature enough
calc is a notoriously "algebra-easy" course, atleast for 1 and 2 (3 gets a bit more complex computation-wise). the real difficult part is understanding why or how the formulas and idea work.
I mean concepts are the most important thing to understand
Do u learn abt the taylor series in hs
not in precalc
if u take calc probably
I hope my school has calc
glgl
mines has calc ab and bc in american system so thats what im taking after precalc
Dang
How to master calculus ( no one can master kd but still any tips )
practice
In which part
the one u are weak at
Practice is important but for me it's like when learning a particular theorem or way of solving I just refer some advanced reference problems and examples and revise the core of solving for that particular part from it repeatedly
look into the logic of why something is true like the derivation of a rule and such and yeah just grind sets of diff problems until ur pretty comfortableā¦
I can agree even though Iām in calc 1 pay attention to the derivatives rules the most
Power, constant, trig, quotient, exponential, even the derivative definition which is the formula of the slope
If you can master these everything else should fall into place
1+1 is 2 guys just you know
Yes!! And 4+4=ATE
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is bro a flat earther
no
It can b 0 too
yo, if i put x=1 and y=0 in this functional equation, i get f(1)=0, but its given that f(1)=16. where am i going wrong lol
Did you assume f(0) to be equal to zero?
That's not always the case
no
Here's my working. I have a feeling I'm making a very stupid mistake somewhere

How is this possible
Wait then it must mean that f(0) doesn't exist right?
This is obviously a contradiction that f(1)=16 and so 16 cannot be zero so the only conclusion is f(0) ain't a finite real number 

lmao im wondering what the maker of the problem was thinking
how can u even get 16 when we don't have the formula of F(x) or F(y)
we cant input
Why not?
no equation
its given that its 16
The function is probably 1/x kinda function
you can a lot of times formulate the function from a functional equation(not true here prob)
daym how
so lets say an easy example is 2 f(x) = f(y) we can say f(x) = x and f(y) = 2x ?
but there are many solutions to that one
infinite ig
for example here
howd u get rid of 6/5 and f(x) ?
oh bc derivative of f(x) is 0 right
yee
howd u also get rid of 5 and 1/5
also by trial and error i got the function of the previous question as 16/x
replace x with 5x
how show us
using this ig
too high lvl for me
just put in x=5t and ull get f(t)
why is f'(2)=f'(0) not equal to 0
why would it be zero?
bc the derivative of a number is zero right
this is given btw
yes, but f'(2) basically means is, what value does the derivative take when i put x=2? i do the differentiation then i put x=2
how do u get F(0) = 2 ?
put x=y=0 in the og equation
What now
solve for f(0) from here
you messed up the second step, you can cross multiply like that
so i can cross multiply f(0)/2f(0) with 1/5 plus 6/5 ?
oops i meant you cant*
see what you did in the right hand side, f(0) only gets cancelled in the first term, the second term(ie 6/5) will now have a f(0) in the denominator too
damnn
both terms
dont over think this, just let f(0) be some x and solve the linear eqn in one variable
wdym
you know how to solve a linear equation in one variable? like 3x+5=14 type?
yeah
3x = 9 x = 3
we have the same thing but f(0) is our variable (f(0) is not actually are 'variable' since its a constant, but it is an unknown thing just like x)
i dont have the vision
wdym?
i dont see what to do
your know how you solved x here? do the same thing for this
i didnt solve shi
lolll
this is easyyyyyy chatt
show us
kk hold up
I canāt clearly read the exact problem š
It looks like something like:
f\left(\frac{c+6}{5}\right) = \frac{f(c) + 6}{5}
or maybe
f(c) = \frac{2f(c)}{5} + \frac{6}{5}
its f(0)
well i used gpt he just multiplied by 5 and substracted 2f(0)
to get 3f(0) = 6
so f(0) = 2
thats the bigger picture btw ..
ooh ok tyyy
nvmm gpt gave me 8
dont use ai for maths its unreliable as hell
heyy im not the only oneee..honeyy
it was easy maths
so its fine i was just slow for sum reason
tried to simplify with f(0) but multiplying by 5 is easier for sure
hmmmmm
hey emu
unless you give it simple af questions like 6+3
What about this
raise it to the 5th power
We know 100 can be 10^2
You mean 1/5
no, if we raise to the 5th, we get (x^5)^(x^5)=100^5=10^10
so x^5=10
question: do you need the higher-level roles to access calc channels
(by level i mean level of schooling)
You can always just manually add the channel to your list
ic thats useful ty
i get it i think... do you want help
'trig makes sense'
also that person:
Is this calculus or english? Its very easy.
wdym csc(x) = 1/sin(x)
wdym sec(x) = 1/cos(x)
its okay they're just reciprocals
just imgine like... its not so different than 1/x ... just... now its got sin there
They're just functions that are defined like that, tbh
cosec(x) is defined as 1 divided by sin(x); etc.
tbh life would be so much better if sec(x) = 1/sin(x) etc
I wonder what the person who defined that was thinkingā¦
but it probably has something to do with the unit circle
the way i remember it is look at the third letter and itll tell you the trig function its a reciprocal of
seCant = 1/cos
coSecant = 1/sin
coTangent = 1/tan
Thatās true lol
i will admit when i first saw secant being 1/cos i was angry abt it not being 1/sin too lmao
it seems so much more intuitive that way as well
Frfr I got mixed up a lot itās better now but I remember getting frustrated and quitting on learning any extra math js cus of having to graph those (eventually had to learn lmao)
HI
Whats the best way u guys memorized the unit circle? (like the cos tan sin radian angles stuff) i got like 2 hours before my pre calc assesment š
I looked it up on tiktok and thereās some good ways to do it
It all repeats and itās super easy
Wonāt take ya long
Learn the key angles for the first quadrant, swap + and - sign as the x and y coordinates go in different directions/quadrants
It won't take you long to memorize actually
Also like the radians
Itās 6,4,3,2,3,4,6
For the denominators
It goes in a circle
And for each quadrant thereās a rule
The first one all the numerators are pi
Subtract, add, and prime numbers
He also probably needs All Students Take Calculus, or?
In a situation where you will need to identify if the trig will be ratio positive or negative according to the quadrants, you can use "All Students Take Calculus" rule
I. Quadrant: All rations are positive
II. Quadrant: Only sine and cosecant are positive
III. Quadrant: Only tangent and cotangent are positive
IV. Quadrant: Only cosine and secant are positive
alrr
quick question--is the tangent the hypotenuse in the unti circle?
What do you mean?
Like if we build a triangle in the unit circle?
I kinda jus memorized it like how it is on a usual graph
Quad 1, x and y r both pos
Quad 2, negative x and pos y
And so on
Yeah
Ik but thatās just an alternative for him
yea
no, it isn't
because it follows a tangent axis, not the radius of the circle
sorry if i drew it badly, but it goes outside
now, take a look at this one
this is some random angle x and when drawing the tangent line, it goes beyond the unit circle
the line follows the tan axis
same thing with cot
Yeah me too⦠my math teacher recommends we sketch a unit circle on our quiz if time allowsā¦. Tho I have memorized fine⦠I try to remember in quadrant 1 y goes from 1 to 0 so decreasing and goes from 0 to 1 so increasing ⦠and then fill in all denom of 2 and then top is sqrt 3 2 1 (simplify sqrt1 as 1) and then yeah
Hello
Radius will always be positive
š
co- means complement, so secant was named first and then, csc happened
its just a repeating representation of how it changes as the angle changes
Yeah
solution to y"+y=0 at y(0),y'(0)
I didn't find a channel for mechanics so I posted this here (please tell me where I should post it instead)
Can someone solve this please?
You can look for help in the available help channels higher in the channel list! People will answer you there in a decent timespan, typically a few minutes
Im looking for a document with exercises on proof by induction and the principle of well ordering, including strong induction.
Anyone got good references on that?
Alright thanks
I got one but it's an Alevel document (further pure maths 1). I'm not sure if thats what youre looking for but ill send it anyway
got something already!
Ah perfect
Question, how do you simplify this
I tried It and got root35 over -2
But the answer is saying itās root35 + 3root5 over 2
firstly, move the minus in the numerator at the front of the fraction and then multiply both the numerator and denominator by sqrt(7)+3 to get a difference of squares formula from which you will have 7 - 9 in the denominator which is minus two, in the numerator you get sqrt(5)*(sqrt7+3)
with the minus at the front and the minus in the denominator the fraction becomes positive
your goal is to make the denominator of the fraction rational
you probably didn't fully redistribute after multiplying the square roots of 7 and 5
Rationalise the denominator
Correct me if im wrong, but is this graph even possible?
I tried solving for it by assuming the form Asin(Bx + C) + D, and got 4sin(13x/24) - 2. However this does not line up with (-4pi , 0)
Also, there are only 3 data points given. Since there are 4 variables, wouldn't we need 4 data points?
does this fit your needs (after changing ampltiude)
wait
nvm
Yea i noticed that too
Also another contradiction i found was that it shows from -4pi to 4pi, it travels two wavelengths
So from 0 to 4pi should be one wave
But it travels more than that
That means it cant be Asin(Bx+C) + D right?
Man..
is it js me or are the 4pi and -4pi not at equal distances from the origin
this question so easy, that I dont even know the answer for it
just you
no like if u think abt it the number of curves on the left side b4 -4pi and no of curves on right b4 4pi are different
y axis is not the line of symmetry in this graph which is making you think -4pi and 4pi arent at the same distance
i marked the equal parts in both sides but on the right side there is still more dist left
Are there any tips for Integral Calculus?
practice
Knowing derivatives very very well
And recognize them without too much effort
Is the one on red the oscillation
That has to be a x sin
use the tabular method for integration by parts
also practice makes perfect
First and foremost idea of what I think is that a cos graph but 4 cos(x)
We shift it by substracting 2
So 4cos(x)-2
But -4Ļ and 4Ļ are roots
So would probably try 4cos(x-Ļ/3)- 2
But still there's a problem
ehh?
no i was js talking about equal lengths
this graph is like a sin graph moved down and with bigger amplitude das it
I never did this so I guessed
@novel hollow
X=Ļ
Y=-2ā3-2
See the function man
Is it good to memorize
Yeah
maybe not all
Just memorize fundmentals liek sin^2 + cos^2 = 1, tan = sin/cos, sec = 1/cos, and structure of law of sines and cosines
others are derived instantly from them
Thanks
mhm
What else?
Thatās the full requirement
for the course
Iām starting my studying from the hardest to the easiest because easiest goes way faster
i guess you should also know how to translate from locus to affine quadratic
i mean like again it is impossible for me to know where you are and what you need to learn
i haven't tried the khan academy precalculus course but maybe take a look at it
Okie
i also know aops has a precalculus textbook
can someone teach me calculus?
from scratch, unlikely to find someone willing
you could however try reading an introduction and ask questions about anything you don't understand
What's this
Okay
is there any precalculas book which goes through this road map ? or even near to this
Aops pre calc does on internet archive
link pls
question guys
if i take college algebra and trigonometry, did i basically take precalc?
Hi, long time no see
pr much idk what college algebra and trig covers but thats basically what precalc is
depends on what the next calc course covers. some calc courses assume you have a working understanding of limits and jump straight into epsilon-delta, while some don't.
if you're able to find a syllabus for whatever the next calc course is, that should help you understand what else you need to cover
Calculus AB
thank you to both of you!
hmm then you should be fine imo, ab starts with limits iirc (idk not in the class till next year)
ah then that's enough
Where does precalc end?
I'm in the uk so we don't really have as easily segmented course modules pre uni
I could do with knowing what I actually know
i think this is what they give
How much time does pre calc take to finish ?
not long
took me maybe a
uh
a month?
how many hours a day?
idk
maybe 2
i js did a bunch in school
cuz i was bored
ohh ok
Oh what topic(s)?
Yeah itās a lot of review of algebra so itās not too hard
mainly the later topics in alg 2 id say
what is epsilon delta
Not exactly at all
Itās a proof for limits that defines them in a rigorous way
oh
@river zenith definitely does not take a month.
hello
unit 1 (a+b) is 16 units
unit 2 (a+b) is 18 units
unit 3 (a+b) is 18 units
unit 4 (a+b) is 18 units
@river zenith 18*3=54 +16 is 70
Definitely did not take you a month to do 70 units at full comprehension and you probably canāt recall each unit right now
Iāll look at that
Yeah idk khan doesnāt look as good as ap pre calc
idk i took a practice exam afyer the course
like an ap precalc practice exam
and i have no problem in it
but itās diff for me cuz iām doing a more extensive obline course for precalc at school as well
You def had knowledge before the khan academy course then because khans doesnāt teach logs or any logarithmic manipulation
i knew like basic log rules
cuz my tiktok fyp is js stem
khan doesnt teach the trig functions as well
like graphs
of them
Yeah so you had to have learned outside of that course which students usually donāt do
khan does logs in alg2
so you would really just need to do itās precalc course the log part in alg 2
and assuming you did the trig part in precalc
rheres obly obe unit left in khans trig section
and i think it teaches the functions
idk fs tho
yup
it does
so if you do that
maybe month and a half two months
you should be good
wait
where did you get these numbers from
can anyone tell me how to know if there are one or two or non ssa triagnels
this is gonna be on my precal test
also hwo do i do angular momentum
ssa?
yea
side-side-angle, the ambigous case. where with the given info 0,1, or 2 triangles could be constructed
can someone tell me how to begin my calculus journey
i wan tto fimish it in 11th itself..
first ensure you have a good understanding of algebra, functions, exponents,logs,trig,gro
calculus i to iii?
on calculus like full calculus, all the way frm basics
i need notes too
can you send it if you have
Oh
theres this really good calculus problem
infinite sum of inverse squares
but i think itll take most of ur time though
I guess you can look online, like "tough exercises calculus"
Aren't there any?
it converges to something?
is it 1+(root2/2) perchance
No. For $n \geq 5$, we have
$$\frac{1}{n^2} \leq \int^{n}{n=1} \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}$$
and so
$$\sum^{\infty}{n=5} \frac{1}{n^2} \leq \int^{\infty}{4} \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}=\frac{1}{4}$$
Thus,
$$\sum^{\infty}{n=1} \frac{1}{n^2} \leq \left(1+\frac{1}{4}+\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{16} \right)+\frac{1}{4}.$$
Civil Service Pigeon
,calc 1 +1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + 1/4
Result:
1.6736111111111
,calc 1+1/sqrt(2)
Result:
1.7071067811865
I will say that this problem (known as the Basel problem) was proposed in 1650 and wasn't solved until 1734
Chances are that you can find some questions that scaffold various proofs of this online if you want
Here is one of the ones from the high school level. There are some results that are given to you outright, but those aren't too hard to justify - I suspect they were given to reduce the number of marks that the question was worth.
You can find a laundry list of proofs here
I'll let you do more googling if you want to
why is the first part true? and why the the integral in the second one start from 4 and not 5
No. For $n \geq 5$, we have
$$\frac{1}{n^2} \leq \int^{n}{n-1} \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}$$
and so
$$\sum^{\infty}{n=5} \frac{1}{n^2} \leq \int^{\infty}{4} \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}=\frac{1}{4}$$
Thus,
$$\sum^{\infty}{n=1} \frac{1}{n^2} \leq \left(1+\frac{1}{4}+\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{16} \right)+\frac{1}{4}.$$
Civil Service Pigeon
typo, my bad
You can compute the integal on the right hand side and it's obvious
To avoid calculation, you can also justify it by noting that $\frac{1}{x^2}$ is a decreasing function and using a Riemann sum style argument.
Civil Service Pigeon
,w graph 1/x^2, x>0
-1/n - (-1/n-1)
You should put parentheses around the denominator if you have more than one term, but yes. I say this because in a literal sense, you wrote
$$-\frac{1}{n}-\left(-\frac{1}{n}-1\right).$$
Civil Service Pigeon
oh mb
ok wait i dont get why n has to be >= 5 tho
Because smaller values of n don't give you a tight enough bound
you can verify this for yourself
You might be able to pick a smaller value of n, but I was lazy and just went with something that I knew would work
5 seemed "big enough"
(Ex. bounding at n=2 gives an upper bound of 2, which is insufficient to prove that 1.707... is not the value)
ok but $$\frac{1}{n^2} \leq \int^{n}{n-1} \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}$$ is true for $n \geq 1$ right
arrow
oh alr got it
Not $n=1$. But it's true for $n>1$.
Civil Service Pigeon
oh alr so u were showing that it has to be less than 1.707
cool thanks
also how do u type latex so fast
correct
lol
I guess I type a lot in latex (and in general tbf)
Because I am too lazy to retype, here you go
hmm true
ok but for the basel problem
we cant compute the actual number it converges to?
just an arbitrarily good enough upper bound?
oh
The reason I responded like I did was to prove that your answer was wrong without giving you the actual answer
luckily lazy bounding worked
otherwise I might have given in
the actual answer is quite surprising, which is why I didn't want to reveal it prematurely
hmm alright dont tell me then
but tbh i genuinely dont understand most of this
even one bit
so ill come back to it in some time ig
ok the paper seems like a nice challenge i could attempt after my igcses but i simply dont know enough calculus to solve those questions
Why is ts in precalculus? š
Sobs
can a 3 dimensional frequecy table be used to display more complex data sets ?
Is ap pre calc hard guys I have an 87 in geometry rn š
not rlly
i had the same question!
i have a 107 in this class and im in 9th grade⦠its boring icl
I'm taking algebra 2 right now and i'm going to be taking it next year
builds on a lot of algebra and geometry foundations
i'm feeling nervous for it
Yea me tooooo
except i won't be taking the ap pre calc, just normal pre calc because i won't be in high school yet
oo nice
Oh rlly?
I thought the ap exam was the entire yearās content
i'm just scared for it because i think algebra 2 is hard and i dont know if i will be able to keep up with the class
Yea me too Iām taking both next year
dwdw you'll be okay
i went from integrated 3 (kinda alg2 stuff) to this class and im fine
nah entire year is 4 units
WHATTT
idk why its designed like that but igs less stuff to study on the exam
but like long units
unit 1 took us throuhg october
unit 2 we only did half of up to winter break
Yea
unit 2 we finished after winter break until february, my class just started unit 3, about halfway in
oh thatās not too bad
gonna finish unit 3 this month and thru april learn unit 4 and then may is the ap exam š„
Gl solider
what comes after calc?
tyty its my first ap exam
hmm maybe linear alg
i'm in 7th grade right now and im taking algebra 2 right now so next year i will take pre calc
or you could do analysis
and calc in 9th
oo nice
DANG
im only in precalc in 9th
dawg u guys r smart
ill finish calc in 11th with bc but i hgihk might js take a free period in 12th man
We r only allowed to take algebra 1 in 7th grade
i go to a private school and it k-12
we have accel math 7 but then after that i skipped int math 1
so they let me take any math as long as i test high enough
to take int math 2 and 3 in one year, so then this year i can take precal
ahhh I see
i didnt really take pre algebra or algebra 1 in school
i just tested past it
and i took geometry last year
do u guys remember ambiguous case enough to explain it
ummm i kinda do
its like based on, the SSA, the info you're given
how many triangles you could construct
theres 0 (impossible to construct any), 1, or 2
oh i hated that stuff
How do yk how many are possible
so yk the law of sines?
yes
i deleted it from my brain as soon as i passed that unit
me too icl i got too scared to approach my teacher so i js pretended i knew it
fake it till you make it type shi
so in the triangle the angle you're given, lets say theta, if its less than 90 thats the 0,1,or 2 case
if you have sides, a, b, c, and height h
if a<b then use the law of sines to figure out sinB
if sinB>1, 0 triangles, else sinB<1, two triangles (quadrant 1, 2)
and then you have the one triangle case
guys my school has this math competition thing for private school i forgot what its called
should i try and join?
I am doing sin(theta)=cos(90-theta), cos(theta)=sin(90-theta) and what else
elaborate on what else...?
like cot(theta)=tan(90-theta) and tan(theta)=cot(90-theta)
which would be either: a>=b (if opposite side is more than adjacent, the side can only fit one way) or a=bsinA (right triangle)
Can someone check my answers plsss
where is the question you are looking for help on?
thatās like it
thereās also
sin(-x)=-sin(x)
and cos(-x)=cos(x)
Also tan(theta)=cot(90-theta), and cot(theta)=tan(90-theta)
csc(theta)=sec(90-theta) and sec(theta)=csc(90-theta)
alg 2 in 7th grade is insane
am only taking algebra 1 in 8th
prolly cause my school doesnt offer the opportunities
thats still good... my high school has like integated 1 in 9th which uh im pretty sure is like alg1 (never took it so idk) pretty much super easy
oh
well like the top school in my district requires that i take algebra 1 in 8th grade
and i want to attend so ig it works out
what are all the ways to write out complex numbers
i remember theres a + bi but there was another one i forgot
i'm taking alg ii over the summer
so i can go to precalc in 8th
Y'all use WordMat and is this the right place to ask about defining a discontinuous function?
ummm demoivre maybe? i forgot too
twins!
there's rectangular, polar, and exponential
oh polar... right..
I'm taking a quiz tomorrow about conic sections and im having trouble memorizing all the formulas
bruuuu
hmmm
||trust js learn calculus overnight and derive them|| nunu you got thisss which type formulas is it?
wait what's the quiz testing
conic formulas are derivable
most of them atleast
the ones about parabolas and hyperbolas
and circles and ellipses
oh hyperbolas and ellipses, that stuff
got it, so to be fair, hyperbolas and ellipses are very similar in terms of, like, terminology, so that can be helpful
my little brain is gonna explode
for circles, remember the center (h,k) and dont be like me and forget its radius squared (š„ my final was..)
uhhh parabolas, i dont think are the trickiest. is it just factoring, finding zeroes, type stuff?
im okay with circles
and focus/directrix
im just having trouble with the parabolas
yes that stuff
i dont like completing the square
okay i gotta lock in
ah i see
icl its been a while since i did that
alr i found this in my notes: "The focus of a horizontal parabola with equation x-h=(1/4p)(y-k)2 with vertex (h,k) is (h+p,k) and the equation of the directrix is x=h-p."
What math course did you take in 6th?
likely geo
Yeah. Some schools just jump straight to alg II I think.
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geometry in 6th grade is crazy
i wonder what he will do in senior year
bro i was almost forced to take geo twice
rlly why
I think it's common to do stuff like that in private schools
cuz i switched counties
ohh
and they had some test that you could only take in 5th
damn, howd you get urself out of retaking geo
the private schools near me do integrated 1 or algebra 1 in 8th grade
is that like an advanced option or they force the students into im1
That's normal. Only some private schools push like that for math.
btw how do you not have a display name?
by begging the tag coordinator to take the geo exam right there
force
they have to
oop
I did alg 1 in 8th too and alg 2 in 9th with geo.
some private highschools only let you in if you have done im1 or im2 in middle school or else they force you to take summer courses
at my school its like an option but most of the kids in there were rlly stupid lmao
my school has a wierd system where our clases our 1 semester long
So what happens after the first semester? Do you just switch classes?
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hmm
icl i couldn't focus on my integrated 3 work cus my classmates would always be doing some stupid shi like throiwng pencils at each other
My goal is MV calc in 12th
yeah, one or two credit courses such as math ap or ela are one semester long and hald credit courses are 1 quater long
mv calc is boring tbh
but it was fun for a bit
oh thats weird
either that or lin alg
how do you do ap exams then, do you just do them at the end of the year
i'd advise u to maybe take that before mv calc
yeah, i had spanish and human geo in semster one
Is alg 2 in 9th good?
so when semester two started i had math after 8 months and it was confusing cause i forgot stuff
yeah
think so, ahead of "regular" pathway at my school
oop i see...
i took geometry in 6th grade
but parents protested so they are changing it back next year
wow
damn, I am taking that this year š
cant compete with these sweats
oh peak uh at least theres that
i actually hate math
oop rlly
why 
honestly real icl
i like getting good grades and having a high gpa but i dont like having to actually study for my class now that its challenging is that what its like 4 u š„
i dont want to read of mice and men again
all i wanna do is play golf
real, frick romeo and juliet
ahhh we had to read that too in august
who cares about some random poor bums in the country like-
actually i am in 9th grade english right now
oh cool
its my second time reading it
š
girls in my middle school actually cried when we watched the movie and they killed lenny
i my school does the martian chronicles instead
oh we do 4 books per year
bro you wanna know what my teacher said
he said
"guys the movie has a different ending they actually go to a village and live a peaceful life"
so this year my school did the martian chronicles and the importance of being ernest
š
hmm
and were gonna read romeo and julliut and an inspecter calls
ooh i see
im actually really bad at spelling haha
so far weve done, of mice and men, uhhh this book called born a crime, uhhh a poetry unit
someone should've told shakespeare to stop using that fancy english
oh
we have this book called no fear romeo and juliet..
so on the right half of the page instead of "the pink flower" it'll be like "romeo wants to pretend like he got some last night to act cool in front of his friends, this is a sexual entrende" or smn
oh and we also did a short story unit
and a unit on this random ahh graphic novel about war
my mom wants me to skip a grade because im already taking all 9th grade class
actually i think she wants me to skip two
oh thats cool
oh.. wow
hmm... do you have a counselor you could ask about it
yeah
he said it would be easy to do becaues my schedual already looks like one of a 9th grader except for like
electives
i want to skip
but my parents don't let me
real, mines wouldn't let me do dual math this year
watch me become a high school drop out or something
lmao nooo you can do ittt
i actually know this kid he used to go to my school his name is cj
and my counseler frankly doesn't help that much 
yah my counselor lwk a bi-
he was in linear algebra in 10th grade and he got a 1570 on his mock sat
wouldn't put me into ap precalc or ah possibly mention that was an option
oh wow
he was actually really nice i was friends with him
my counselor also wouldn't explain anything about a-g and stuff like that either
(and ghosted me when i emailed asking about how its calculated, cus i wanted to know about the math part of it, rah)
oh thats cool... i mean i guess high school isn't for everyone, depending on aspirations and goals and stuff
my counseler js replies cryptically
and doesn't even answer my questions at all
mine had this autoreply thing set
like "Most classes are full! Please don't bother me through email!"
"I'll answer your question within a school week! If you come in person!"
she just uses the same "template" to write every email, and sends me links to random sites that don't even help
oop
yeah a lot of our resources are highk very uh
outdated
eventually my math teacher helped me schedule an appointment tho i got lost like 3 times on the way to her office...
a teacher found me wandering trying to figure out the classroom numbers...
,w (x sqrt x, x+sqrt x), x=2
And hint: use fractional exponents
X cant be anything dawg
xsqrt(x) = x + sqrt(x)
y = sqrt(x): y³ - y² - y = 0
=> y(y² - y - 1) = 0
=> y = 0 or y = Ļ or y = 1 - Ļ [ rejected ]
=> y = 0 or y = Ļ
=> x = 0 or x = Ļ + 1
Ļ = Golden Ratio
How would you guys find the max and min from [0,12] this was on the calc section of my wuiz the other day but I couldnāt figure it out
(Fah I got a 14/18 on my quiz⦠oops)
Write your answer
Remember 45-45-90
Itās just 1200+500=1,700 m
Itās x: x : xsqrt(2)
high schooler here the stuff you guys do is isnane
pure madness what am i looking at
what is this demonic possession
and the min and max can be found on any differentiable function by js taking the derivative and testing critical points
you cannot ask people to just "give you the answers" as this is not the purpose of this server.
this is incorrect.
