#geometry-and-trigonometry

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flint osprey
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So what is cos C + cos D?

bitter jetty
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cos180 = 0

flint osprey
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Okay but we want the cosine of C and D not 180

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And cos 180 is -1

bitter jetty
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o ya lol

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cos C + cos D = cos 180

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since

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C+D =180

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right @flint osprey

flint osprey
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C + D = 180 yes

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I have no idea how you got the first thing you wrote though

bitter jetty
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so then what are you expecting lol

flint osprey
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Use C + D = 180 to calculate cos C + cos D

bitter jetty
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i dont know how to do that

flint osprey
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Substitute the first equation into the second one? It's the only thing you can do

bitter jetty
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so cos (d-180) +cos d

flint osprey
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Yes

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Can you simplify that now?

bitter jetty
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i havent learned how

flint osprey
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Do you know the cosine identity for addition of angles?

bitter jetty
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like

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cosacosb -sinasinb?

flint osprey
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Yeah

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So apply that for D and -180

bitter jetty
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@flint osprey i got 2(cosD) -1

flint osprey
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I think you should write down all the steps then

bitter jetty
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=cosD * -1 + sinD 0
=-cosD  + cos D
=0```
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o

flint osprey
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Right

bitter jetty
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wait but @flint osprey how does that help

flint osprey
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Well you just showed that cos C + cos D = 0

bitter jetty
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yes

flint osprey
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Now look at the expression you wrote for c^2 + d^2

bitter jetty
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-2abcosC - 2abcos D

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is the part i need to cancel

flint osprey
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= -2ab * (cos C + cos D)

bitter jetty
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dam im an idiot

flint osprey
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So you're done

bitter jetty
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@flint osprey ur a genius tysm

alpine kite
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guys help with the question
"Write a standard form equation of the hyperplane through P (0,-2,1,3,1) that is parallel to the line (x1,x2,x3,x4,x5)=(1,3,−1,2,1) +t(0,−1,0,2,0)"

pearl comet
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<@&286206848099549185>

noble goblet
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Could someone help please

dark sparrow
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what are those blue boxes? are those your answers or did your teacher fill them in or what

noble goblet
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My answers 😂

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I know they are prob wrong

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@dark sparrow

dark sparrow
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well 1a isn't even an equation, it's an expression

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so that's a bit of a red flag at the very least

noble goblet
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Yes

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Could u show me how to do it?

dark sparrow
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ok well do you know what it means for D to be the midpoint of CE?

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in words

noble goblet
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Yeah meaning that D is the number between CE

dark sparrow
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no

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D isn't a number, it's a point

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and it's not the only point between C and E

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there's an entire segment consisting of such points

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what makes D the midpoint?

noble goblet
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It’s just the point in between, idk how to explain it

dark sparrow
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okay, let's forget about this problem for a moment and im gonna try to clear up this gap in your knowledge

noble goblet
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Im horrible at math

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And alright

dark sparrow
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is Y the midpoint of XZ? why/why not?

noble goblet
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Not because both sides aren’t even

dark sparrow
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wording

noble goblet
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XY and YZ aren’t the same

dark sparrow
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great there we go

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so you DO know what a midpoint is

noble goblet
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Yes

dark sparrow
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it's the point which splits the segment into EQUAL parts

noble goblet
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Correct

dark sparrow
noble goblet
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I just can’t find out how to solve the equations to find it

dark sparrow
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before you solve an equation, you first have to write it down

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cause it's gonna be very hard to solve anything when you don't know what it is

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in this diagram, D splits the segment CE into two parts, one with length 2x+5, the other with length 3x-2

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but D is the midpoint of CE so these parts are equal

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can you write that down as an equation

noble goblet
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I would assume it’s something like (2x+5)+(3x-2)

dark sparrow
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why plus

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why are you adding these parts

noble goblet
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The find the whole length?

dark sparrow
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you aren't doing that yet

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you need to find x first, and THEN once you have the value of x you can use it to find the length of CE as asked

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but first you need to turn the info (CD = DE) into an equation, then solve it

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it's a simple matter, you're just overthinking it and/or trying to kill two birds with one stone

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what stopped you from reading what i said and doing what i asked you to, and writing 2x + 5 = 3x - 2?

noble goblet
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So I would write it as an = not a +?

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Honestly I know I sound like a dummy, but I’m really bad at this

dark sparrow
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yes, obviously?? have you solved any equations before?

noble goblet
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Yes but it’s been a while so I’ve kinda forgot

dark sparrow
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it sounds like you're viewing your mistake as a typo and not a misunderstanding of what you're even doing

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so much so that you've forgotten what the most basic of notations mean

noble goblet
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I just need my brain refreshed, it doesn’t help that last year for algebra 2, the teacher never had the time to show me how to do it when I wasn’t getting it

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Pretty much failed it

dark sparrow
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i mean like

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cause if it doesn't we're in big trouble

noble goblet
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Yes

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I understand that

dark sparrow
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yeah ok so

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this is gonna be risky but are you able to solve this equation for x

noble goblet
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I remember something like you had to flip the sign at the end at add it to the other side

dark sparrow
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god yikes what

noble goblet
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😂

dark sparrow
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sounds like some crap-tier, circumvent-understanding-at-all-costs mnemonic

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cause this is just a matter of like

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subtracting 2x from both sides

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then adding 2 to both sides

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and doing the necessary simplifications

noble goblet
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That’s what I meant

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I’ll show u

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Right?

livid moss
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Keep going

noble goblet
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Correct?

livid moss
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Yay

noble goblet
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That was so damn easy 😂

livid moss
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So what is x?

noble goblet
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7

livid moss
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Can you now find CE ?

noble goblet
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So then it’s literally 14+5 then 21-2

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So then 38

livid moss
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Yes

noble goblet
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What about these

livid moss
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Again, you have to set up an equation? What do you think it is?

winged vine
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hey

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does anybody want to be my student?

livid moss
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Are you trying to advertise yourself as a tutor? I think that goes against the rules of the server.

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I can only hope you meant that, and not some kind of weird sex ed joke

worthy igloo
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@pearl comet Cheating is against the rules here.

upbeat olive
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Oh how many people did he ask? skateTHINK

upper karma
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Some other guy was flaunting his alg1 skills

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Asking people to feel free to dm him for doubts

upper karma
silent plank
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can the question be any more ambiguous

upper karma
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

silent plank
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do they know how many freaken angles are formed in the construction of a transversal

upper karma
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8 in total i think lol

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and those are actually answers for other problems nvm

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but wouldnt 4 of the angles in total be 178 and the other four 2?

silent plank
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ig. though other could also refer to another 178° angle

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but 2° would make the most sense here

stray whale
silent plank
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it's a composite shape.
split it into stuff like triangles and traps

stray whale
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i see

bitter jetty
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i need some help

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i have that problem

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and i got too

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but idk how to get rid of 4ab

silent plank
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where's the 4ab coming from

bitter jetty
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basically i cross multiplied

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and i had 2ab -2abcosC = c^2 - (a-b)^2 RHS = c^2 -a^2 -2ab -b^2

silent plank
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check your signs

bitter jetty
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so i added a^2 and b^2 to the lef tside

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?

silent plank
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you didn't expand properly

bitter jetty
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(a-b)^2 part?

silent plank
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yes

bitter jetty
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how so

silent plank
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show your work in your expansion

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don't skip steps

bitter jetty
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(a-b)(a+b)
=a^2 - 2ab -b^2```
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right?

silent plank
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no

dark sparrow
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since when is (a-b)^2 equal to (a-b)(a**+**b)?

silent plank
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everything about that is wrong

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none of those 3 expressions are equivalent

bitter jetty
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o sry isee

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so its (a-b)(a-b) and then u foil it

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and get a^2 -2ab +b^2

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or am i still wrong

silent plank
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yes

bitter jetty
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ok

silent plank
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that's ok now

bitter jetty
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and then i factor out the negative?

silent plank
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distribute or factor, works either way

bitter jetty
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but then dont i end up with c^2 -1

silent plank
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what do you have atm?

bitter jetty
silent plank
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what happened to the stuff inside the parentheses

bitter jetty
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wdym

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it was a^2 - 2ab +b^2

silent plank
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yes

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exactly

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that's not the same as what you wrote

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unless you changed other things,
a^2 -2ab +b^2 would be what's inside your parentheses

bitter jetty
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yes

silent plank
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because that's what (a-b)^2 is

bitter jetty
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ya sry idk what i was doing

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so then i end up with

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a^2 -b^2 -2abcosC +2ab = c^2 -2ab

silent plank
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how are you getting that?

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go back 2 steps

bitter jetty
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2ab - 2abcosC = c^2 -a^2 -2ab +b^2

silent plank
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go back even more

bitter jetty
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2ab - 2abcosC = c^2 - (a^2 -2ab +b^2)

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o i didnt distirbut ethe negative

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im an idiot

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tysm

ashen brook
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i need to find the equation

paper vale
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5cos5x

ashen brook
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thankyou!

severe kayak
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I don’t really understand this and my teachers didn’t explain it well to me...

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Please ping me if your gonna help! Thanks!

ashen brook
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can someone help me find the equations for these graphs i think i have part of the bottom one but im not for sure

high shell
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Both are sinusoids with some amplitude, frequency and phase shift. Find them by looking at the graph

ashen brook
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how do i find the period

high shell
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the interval after which the function repeats itself.

ashen brook
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so it would be 2?

high shell
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Yes.

wintry fog
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  1. Given the system of linear equations: {6x-6y=-8 and 2x-2y=-14 ,
    a. Solve the system.
mellow sand
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Try solving for one of your variables then using substitution

wintry fog
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Thank you

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I got

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(-2.75, -9.75)

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@mellow sand

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or 9.75

mellow sand
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That’s not right @wintry fog

wintry fog
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yeah i didnt think so

mellow sand
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Show me how you did it

wintry fog
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i did use x but i got lost from there

mellow sand
wintry fog
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thanks so much

mellow sand
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no solution because they are parallel

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same slope

wintry fog
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i just wrote them on a graph and it showed they were parallel

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so i assumed at that point

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but thanks so much

mellow sand
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np

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oops I actually did that wrong, That should be a positive ( - 8 / 6) and positive (-7) feelsdumbman

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But you still get no solution

tropic tide
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Is this correct

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(solve for x)

forest pebble
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I need help finding all real zeros of a function. Such as
F(x)=x^3-12x^2+35x-24

earnest echo
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For polynomials of degree greater than 2
It's always a good idea to test if 0,±1,±2 are zeroes or not

forest pebble
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Ok so I get that you have like
P
Q
P/q
But then after that it’s a little confusing

earnest echo
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Huh?

forest pebble
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Rational zero theorem

earnest echo
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Okay, rational root theorem

forest pebble
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Ya same thing

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Or do I try to factor it first?

earnest echo
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Do you know what rational root theorem says?

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I mean do you know how to apply it

forest pebble
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Ya P= factors that apply to the constant
Q= factors that apply to the leading coefficient
And p/q is Pdivided by Q

earnest echo
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Possible roots are =factors of constant/factors of leading coefficient

forest pebble
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Ya I get that

earnest echo
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Where are you exactly stuck?

forest pebble
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I just don’t get after you find all those factors how you get the possible roots

earnest echo
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You start inserting them into the polynomial and see if anyone of them satisfies

forest pebble
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Hmm

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So I don’t graph and then get the points and then do synthetic division?

unborn bison
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hi

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what property would this be/

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Substitution?

paper vale
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transitivity

wicked grove
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How do I prove that AB' = B'A? I'm trying to prove the first law of reflection, i = r

keen fern
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lord i forgot this

ig its an equal sign with a wavy thing on top

upper karma
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$\cong$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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congruent.

keen fern
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thanks

rough stone
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Can I set cos^2x = to 1-sin^2x?

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Then multiply the num/denom on the left hand side by 1-sinx

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?

upper karma
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you can

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try to work on only one side

paper vale
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complete the square and use difference of two squares in numerator and denomintator

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((sinx+2)^2-1)/(1-sin^2(x))

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u can continue from here

rough stone
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so i can't do it the way i initially specified?

paper vale
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when proving identities you need to make sure that everything u do is an equivalence relation, for example u cant necessary divide by x, or square root something

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the way to do things if u do that would be to create cases, for example when it is nonzero and zero; or positive and negative; etc

rough stone
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ah ok

paper vale
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like for instance i could literally multiply both sides by 0 and then say they are the same

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but the issue is that u cant reverse, ie u cant divide back by 0

rough stone
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this is what i initially had

paper vale
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oh if u do it to one side then it is ok

rough stone
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i couldn't get both sides to be equal lol

paper vale
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have u seen my method that i said

rough stone
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yeah i did

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i tried that method already

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it works

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😛

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(sinx+1)(sinx+3)/(1-sin^2x) = (3+sinx)/(1-sinx)

paper vale
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i havent read it properly but u probably made an arithmetic mistake somewhere

rough stone
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(sinx+1)(sinx+3)/(1-sinx)(1+sinx) = (3+sinx)/(1-sinx)

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(sinx+3)/(1-sinx) = (3+sinx)/(1-sinx)

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or (3+sinx)/(1-sinx) = (3+sinx)/(1-sinx)

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proved

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where did i make an arithmetic mistake

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using the previous method

paper vale
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idk i havent read it

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i glanced at it again and u have made a big mistake

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u assumed that u factored out (3+sinx) when u actually factored 3+ (sinx)

rough stone
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o

ashen brook
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can someone help me with the question : cos (theta) = -0.7672 with theta in QIII. i need to find theta and i’m not sure how to

livid moss
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First consider a reference angle in the first quadrant, socos(ref. angle) = +0.7672, then you can use arccos to see that ref. angle = arccos(0.7672)

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,w arccos(0.7672) in degrees

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I assume you are working in degrees, so correct me if you are not

somber coyoteBOT
ashen brook
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i am yes

livid moss
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Then ref. angle = 39.9

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Now remember the identity: cos(180°+x) = -cos(x)

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So cos(180°+ref. angle) = -cos(ref. angle) = -0.7672

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So the angle in the third quadrant is 180° + ref. angle

ashen brook
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ohh ok i understand it now thankyou so much

high geode
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is the exact value of -7pi/4 =1 or -1?

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tan

jovial axle
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please dont ask in multiple channels 😦

high geode
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k

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sorry

silent rover
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sin(2x)sin(2) - cos(2)cos(2x) = 0
How do I simplify this equation to solve for x? I’ve tried using the following identities sin(2x)=2sin(x)cos(x), cos(2x) = 2cos²(x) -1, cos(2x) = 1 - 2sin²(x) but nothing seems to work? I popped this in my calculator, and it simplifies to -cos(2x+2), if that helps! Thank you in advance :)

novel flax
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@silent rover $\cos(a+b) = \cos a \cos b - \sin a \sin b$

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Cosine addition identity

somber coyoteBOT
silent rover
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@novel flax i'll try this and see how it goes :) thank you !!

novel flax
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ok

valid crag
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can someone help me with trigo 🤕

cyan osprey
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I think this is the best place to ask, I'm not a math guy but it frequently shows up in my life so thats why I'm here. I would like to make a wireframe dodecahedron, and was wondering what the most efficient way to fold one is. I can't double up the edges. Idk if it's possible with just one piece of metal, so it might need to be 2 or 3 pieces

obtuse tapir
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11

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The 2nd one

valid crag
hollow raven
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Midpoint = ( (x2+x1)/2, (y2+y1)/2 )

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Distance = sqrt( (y2-y1)^2 + (x2-x1)^2 )

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Midpoint is like an average but represented as a coordinate, while distance is just pythagorean theorem

upper karma
worn echo
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Anybody know a good book to catch up on all highschool geometry?
My teachers were incompetent and didnt teach me highschool geometry that well

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Im doing calculus rn and i can do a basic level of geometry but yes

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Things like circle theorems and parallelogram theorems are still unknown to me somewhat

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If you have any course recommendations that i could find for free online then I'll take those as well

umbral snow
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I don't know the circle theorems either. They're not really useful for calc

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If you know trig and triangle stuff you're probably golden

worn echo
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Ah okay okay

fleet crag
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Hello, guys! How do you solve this equation?

earnest echo
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Do you want to solve for x?

fleet crag
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Yes

earnest echo
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Have you tried something?

fleet crag
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I tried dividing by cos(x)

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(both sides of course)

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then dividing by 5 on both sides

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then you get tan(x) = 3/5

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atan(3/5)

high shell
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then you get tan(x) = 3/5
that's right. And what are the solutions to this?

fleet crag
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It's tan(x) = 3/5

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but

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can I really divide by cos(x) here?

high shell
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You can after proving that cos(x) = 0 can't be a solution.

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When cos(x) =0, sin(x) is +-1, so that's clearly not a solution.

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So dividing by cos(x) doesn't change the set of solutions.

fleet crag
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Okay

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But what about this equation: "3u=u"

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The obvious answer is -u on both sides

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But if I divide by u instead

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I get 3=1

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Which is obviously wrong

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Why's that?

earnest echo
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Because here u=0

fleet crag
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Okay then

earnest echo
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You cannot divide both sides by u

upbeat olive
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you cannot divide by 0, it breaks space time!

fleet crag
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Another example: 3*2^x=2^x

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Divide by 2^x

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3=1

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2^x can't be zero

earnest echo
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That equation is false in the first place

upbeat olive
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It just has no solutions ;)

fleet crag
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hmm

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you're right

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BUT

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This is the problem I'm ACTUALLY having trouble with:

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How do you solve that one?

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Because first I -5cos(3x) on both sides

high shell
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@fleet crag

Okay
But what about this equation: "3u=u"
The obvious answer is -u on both sides
But if I divide by u instead
I get 3=1
Which is obviously wrong
Why's that?
You want to divide by u. You check if u=0 is a solution, it is. You write that fact down and divide by u to get other solutions. You get 3=1, which has no solutions, so the only solution is the u=0 one.

fleet crag
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Then I divided by cos(3x)

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Then divided by 3

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tan(3x)=-5/3

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right?

high shell
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this problem is solved in exactly the same way, yeah

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right.

fleet crag
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@high shell ic, thanks!

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But

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That's the wrong answer

high shell
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look at the first equation more closely 😛

fleet crag
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bye

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you guys will never see mye again

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I'll leave this server and cry in a corner lol

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thanks @high shell

sweet dew
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Is this a permutation or combinatio n

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how do i solve this

novel flax
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permutation: order matters
combination: order does not matter

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in otherwords, permutation is for distinct or distinguishable (different) objects, and combination is for undistinguishable objects

paper vale
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tbh this should actually be a permutation question as arrangement incorporates order

sweet dew
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okay

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so it is 6P3 ?

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and there will be 120 flower choices

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?

green aspen
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yea 6C3 * 3!

left fractal
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would this be correct for the question "4. A rectangular football field has a diagonal length of 150m and field length of 110. The angle formed between the diagonal and the width of the field is closest to:"? Im not very good at trigonometry

upper karma
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@left fractal it's not cosine

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When you have the opposite side and the hypothenuse, which one do you use.
Hint(use if stuck):||sin||

left fractal
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ohh thanks, ive been getting my sohcahtoa stuff mixed up

upper karma
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plz help

green aspen
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do you know what is the midpoint formula?

stone tulip
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  1. Requesting or offering the exchange of money for completing homework assignments is a bannable offense.
scarlet grail
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Yeah don't just post four pages of problems

paper vale
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lol wtf

late otter
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how tf do you do part a didnt pay attention in class desolate

grim cairn
dark cradle
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lol, @grim cairn , was about to ask a very similar question, trying to help my son with his homework

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the difference being the interval

zinc dragon
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@late otter you don't. smugshrug

dark cradle
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that's my son's problem that i'm trying to help him with

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i think the answer might be (3pi)/4
but i'm not sure

earnest echo
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It is indeed 3π\4

upper karma
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yeah

earnest echo
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Wrong slash

upper karma
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@grim cairn what have you tried

earnest echo
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Smh

dark cradle
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do you mind if i explain my reasoning, to make sure it's sound? and if my reasoning is wrong, you can tell me where my mistake is?

upper karma
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go ahead

dark cradle
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i don't want to teach him a wrong way. thanks!

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so the interval (pi/2, pi) is everything from 90 degrees to 180 degrees. so i flip the unit circle so that 90 degrees is facing to the right, like it'd be 0 degrees.

normally, if i'm not mistaken, sin(theta) is equal to sqrt(2)/2 at 45 degrees. so i add 45 degrees to 90 degrees and i get 135 degrees, which is 3pi/4

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i am confused about this one, though

earnest echo
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There is no such value

dark cradle
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oh, derp, my mistake

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how would i go about solving that one?

earnest echo
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Use Unit circle

dark cradle
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i have the unit circle here next to me, but it's the process that i'm not sure on. the process i explained above doesn't work on that interval

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i looked it up on youtube, but all of the examples there always have the interval of the entire unit circle

earnest echo
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What I would do is

I know that sin(-π/3)=√3/2

dark cradle
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i think i see a process that is simpler, but not sure if it's correct

earnest echo
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Negative angle means going in clockwise direction

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Ignore my messy handwriting

dark cradle
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could i just look at the unit circle and look for all values that match the answer within that interval? so, for example:

earnest echo
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Yes, you could

dark cradle
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wow. that makes it much simpler

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thank you!

late otter
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@late otter you don't. smugshrug
@zinc dragon What

upper karma
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I don’t know how to find congruent sides for this particular question and I don’t know how to write the two column proof.

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I took notes but I’m still oblivious to what’s being asked.

silent plank
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its pretty much the same as Q7, if you were able to do that

upper karma
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I’m doing evens, how do you do Q8 please?

silent plank
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apply properties of parallel lines

upper karma
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I got 5 and 7 are congruent.

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4 and 7*

silent plank
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which one or both statements

upper karma
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4 and 7

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I have no clue, just a guess based off of the fact they look similar to the 55 degree angle.

silent plank
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apply properties of parallel lines
do you know stuff like corresponding, alternate interior/exterior, co-interior

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and stuff like vertical angles

upper karma
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Yeah, they look like corresponding angles.

silent plank
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look like as you know they're corresponding or guessing.

upper karma
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Guessing.

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They’re alternate exterior nvm.

silent plank
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look up some online resources on this.

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or your notes

upper karma
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Okay.

silent plank
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there should be a concise list of what you need to apply

opal quest
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Is it possible to use the law of cosines when only one edge is known, but all three angles are?

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I need to find one of the other edges, doesn't even need to be both

dark sparrow
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no it's not enough info for the law of cosines

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you wanna use the law of sines here instead

opal quest
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Thanks, I'll give that a read!

stone salmon
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How can I figure out tan Pi/4 is equal to 1 without a calculator

silent plank
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pi not Pi,
know your special angles and ratios
you can derive it from a pi/4,pi/4,pi/2 right isosceles triangle

opal quest
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@dark sparrow

Oh

My

God

This actually works! And it's so simple!
I have been trying to solve this problem the whole day long, and now it finally works
Thank you so very much!

stone salmon
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Why are all the possible values of sin (1/x) between 1 and -1

earnest echo
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Because sin(theta) is always bounded between [-1,1] irrespective of the argument

stone salmon
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lmao ok then

upper karma
silent plank
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plug in appropriate values of k

upper karma
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ty

turbid fjord
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Hello sorry to bother however, I’m having a hard time with this I don’t really understand. I’m just practicing some aleks to prepare for up coming assignments.

sharp iris
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I know the total 180 but idk the rest

sharp plume
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If u know that 30 ,86 and y together is 180 then u can find y

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@sharp iris

polar wave
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just use supplementary angles and complementary angles to get your answers

ashen brook
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If θ = π/4 is a central angle that cuts off an arc length of π centimeters, find the radius r of the circle.

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how would i find this

stoic star
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oh shoot

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uh

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ok

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there's this formula

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either way it helps

winged vine
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hey

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I said that sin(x) could be 1/3k and cos x could be 1/5k.But result turn outs to be wrong why?

dark sparrow
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what's k?

pearl lava
stone valley
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answer is 9 sqrt 2

upper karma
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,rccw

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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@stone valley are you still wondering?

stone valley
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i solved it

agile socket
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I posted this on the wrong channel (I think) Does anyone know how to solve this? I have no clue!

earnest echo
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To find the lenths,
You need the coordinates of the end points of the line segment

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The y coordinate is clearly given to as -1/2 and it remains the same for both the ends

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We just to need to find the x-coordinate of the end points of the given line segment

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@agile socket

Do you follow?

agile socket
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Kind of

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So there isn’t any algebra involved other than the diff. in distance solved by using the points?

earnest echo
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There is trig involved here

agile socket
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How would it be applied?

earnest echo
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The point lies on the curve z=-cos(theta)

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Solve for theta in the given interval

agile socket
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So .05=-cos(theta)?

earnest echo
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Why 0.05?

agile socket
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When theta is the endpoint of the chord?

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.5*

earnest echo
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Where is the negative sign?

agile socket
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0.5= -cos(theta)

earnest echo
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It'll be -1/2=-cos(theta)

agile socket
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oof right, umm but wouldn’t that solve for only just one point?

earnest echo
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Why only one point?

agile socket
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Because if you were to solve -1/2=-cos(theta) there is only one unknown so once it‘s solved wouldn’t that give you either the starting point of the chord or the endpoint?

earnest echo
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cos(theta) is a periodic function

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It can have same output for multiple inputs

agile socket
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Hmm

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I get it in terms of y but not in terms of x

earnest echo
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Huh?

agile socket
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It can have same output for multiple inputs
@earnest echo you say that it can have the same output but would x vary

earnest echo
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Yeah, here theta would vary,
Same thing

agile socket
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Would the answer be 120 when you solve?
-1/2=-cos(theta)
cos(theta)=-1/2
cos^-1(-1/2)=theta
theta is 120?

earnest echo
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No

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Where did the minus before cos(theta) vanish?

agile socket
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When you switch sides

earnest echo
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Vague...............and evem going by that terminology, you have to switch the side of -1/2

agile socket
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So it is -cos^1(1/2)=theta

earnest echo
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No, it's not

agile socket
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Then what is it?

earnest echo
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First off
It's cos(theta)=1/2

agile socket
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Why?

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It’s below zero

earnest echo
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Yes, z=-1/2 is below zero
And given equation is z=-cos(theta)

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So when we solve we get

-cos(theta)=-1/2

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Now we multiply both sides by -1

agile socket
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Ok so the coordinates are (-1/2, -60)?

earnest echo
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No

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I gotta go, maybe someone else will take over

agile socket
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Ok

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help (lol)

arctic vortex
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i did my geometry final and got 98% i think on august so tell me if u need any help

lime hawk
small frost
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Can you teach me how to do trigonometry fully?

orchid roost
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could anyone help me with grade 11 functions i just have one questions

sharp plume
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What is?

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What is?

rain holly
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is there any other info for the problem?

sharp plume
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. A segment of a circle is
that it touches the midline. The
touchpoint divides the center line into line pieces
lengths 3 and 1. How long is the folding line?

rain holly
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k I need to eat

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I’ll answer this later

sharp plume
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I used hawkingsradiationderivative and dunno if the answer is correct

spice cargo
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question

silent plank
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area of trapeziums

sharp plume
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Area of trap is just area of the rectangle + area of the triangle

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Rectangle or square

spice cargo
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how would i go about that? I'm totally braindead at this, just helping my nephew. Been years since Geometry.

sharp plume
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Area of rectangle is lxb and triangle (b.h)/2

spice cargo
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okay ty

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so in that image, length would be 9, base would be 8 so 9x8= 72

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and then for the triangle it would be 8X6/2 which is 21

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so 72+21?

sharp plume
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No

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Length is 6

silent plank
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why not use the clearly marked reflected traleziumd

sharp plume
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What

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Is there a formule for the area of a trapezoid

spice cargo
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Now I'm lost :(

sharp plume
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Just do 6x8 for rectangle then (8x3/2) for triangle then do sum both areas

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48+12=60

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60feet

spice cargo
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Oh, idk why I got lost there lol

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Ty

sharp plume
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Np

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60feetsquare*

spice cargo
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so for this one here it would be 60x60?

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thats sounds very off lol

sharp plume
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4 walls 1 wall is 6x8 so 4(48)

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1 wall or all the walks

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Walls

spice cargo
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so it would be 192 for one wall?

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and 384 for both walls?

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oh no it would be 192 for all the walls

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48 for one wall

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i think thats right?

sharp plume
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U need 4 wallpapers to cover 1 wall

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Wait

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Are the rolls squares or rectangles

spice cargo
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not sure 😦

sharp plume
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It doesn't matter

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But which wall

spice cargo
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it doesnt say 😦

sharp plume
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The triangle wall of the side walls would be the roof

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Dunno if they're gonna put the roof in wallpaper

pearl lava
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Given the triangle ABC with vertices A(-1,-1), B(2,3), and C(5,-1), show that the equation of the median from vertex B is also the equation of the perpendicular bisector of AC.

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Can I just use the sss postulate to prove that the triangles r equal?

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then cpctc?

forest pebble
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F(x)=x^4+5x^3-7x^2-29x+30
Find all zeros of the polynomial function

silent plank
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not geo-trig but try applying rat roots

forest pebble
calm umbra
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You gotta do synthetic division now/polynomial long dovisin

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Division*

lavish mesa
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Is pre-university like high school?

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Cause I got a trig question

weary dock
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Yeah you can probably ask it here if it's relevant

lavish mesa
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Okay

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It says solve for Cos150

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So I did 180-150=30 degrees

mighty wharf
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do you know the 4 quadrants

lavish mesa
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To do the 30 degree triangle thing

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Why do I use TOA?

pearl comet
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?

lavish mesa
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Getting answers for quizzes is a bannable offense.

pearl comet
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I’m asking for steps

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Don’t understand

paper vale
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note that those angles sum to 180

red oxide
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anyone help me with this

upper karma
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@red oxide what have you tried so far

red oxide
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5x+16 = 8x-2

upper karma
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Exactly

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So then you have problems solving that eqn?

red oxide
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no im just not sure what to do after that xd

upper karma
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Aight

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So the ideal when solving eqns is to arrange it so that you get all the x terms on one side and the rest on the other

red oxide
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i get x = 6

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but im not sure how to answer the question its asking me

upper karma
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Yeah so now just plug x=6 into the equation that describes DU @red oxide

red oxide
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oh im dumb as shit

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thanks

civic fiber
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last question on my worksheet confused

upper karma
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Once again
Do you know any geometry book that explains well?
I don't have the geometrical bases *

civic fiber
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??????????????

silent plank
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pay attention to the order of the labelling

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and identify the corresponding sides

faint gazelle
west basin
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set AN + ND = AD

faint gazelle
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okay, cool

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that helps a bit

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thank you

novel idol
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<@&286206848099549185>

glacial gorge
rain holly
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triangle FGH is isoceles

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so u can find the other angles

brittle echo
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I need help with this math problem about parrallel and perpendicular lines

cosmic pebbleBOT
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onyx cloud
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thicc start by writing out every angle you know

brittle echo
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Here’s what I’ve got

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I don’t know what to do passed this point to figure out angle 1

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For either of them

onyx cloud
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@brittle echo for 21 draw a line perpendicular to the parallel lines on the left side

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it should make a pentagon, and you should be able to sum the angles inside of the pentagon

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which should give you 540

brittle echo
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how about number 22?

onyx cloud
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think of it like this

upper karma
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ive been trying to convince myself that all triangles have a circumcenter,
but im not sure how i can go about it.

im wondering if theres a way to show that there is no triangle which has no circumcenter.

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or like to show that, for all triangles, the line appearing from the middle of each angle meet, or something.

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maybe its a bad idea, but it seems like im trying to show the existence of an intersection.

dark sparrow
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or like to show that, for all triangles, the line appearing from the middle of each angle meet, or something.
that would be the incenter

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you want the perpendicular bisectors

upper karma
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oh right

dark sparrow
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in Euclidean geometry, given four lines L1, L2, M1, M2, if L1 is perpendicular to M1 and L2 to M2, then L1 and L2 intersect if and only if M1 and M2 do.

upper karma
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oh ok yea that makes sense

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tho id imagine mainly getting a rectangle unless..

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L1 intersects L2, at the point which M1 appears out of

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or vis versa

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okay, i guess that kinda works for cicrumcenter

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im gonna go try do the incenter, hopefully its similar

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In geometry, the incenter of a triangle is a triangle center, a point defined for any triangle in a way that is independent of the triangle's placement or scale. The incenter may be equivalently defined as the point where the internal angle bisectors of the triangle cross, as ...

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oo.. nvm herons proof is pre nice

paper vale
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carnot's perpendicularity theorem basically trivilises it

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another nice proof is considering a zero radius circle on the three vertices, and noting that their radical centre is the is the circumcentre

lavish mesa
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Can someone help with a math homework problem?

dark sparrow
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if you post it, you have a high chance of getting help

upper karma
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@paper vale never heard ot it, but yea that looks really interesting

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it led me to projective geometry which looks pre interesting

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apparently u can derive euclidean stuff from it (i think?)

lavish mesa
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Like ummm

upper karma
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i think the problem wants you to use "cosine law", very specifically since all the values fit in it.

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but

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thats assuming her second shot, wasn't off by any degrees, and and somehow was aimed perfectly

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but yea, @lavish mesa use cosine law:

lavish mesa
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Umm

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Ok?

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I’ll google that

upper karma
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@lavish mesa

lavish mesa
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no

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i don’t have 1 angle

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oh i do

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So what I would do is do cosine law

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To figure out the lengths and stuff

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Then make a second triangle to where the second ball hit

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And do sin law?

dark sparrow
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nah you only need one triangle

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the second shot is aimed at the hole so it's aligned with the missing side

grizzled kindle
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how would u guys do this q

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ik the answer is 10 but i cant seem to get it

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i tried using the general formula taking Un/a = 1/2 and r=0.93

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but i didnt get it

upper karma
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what a wonderful geometry question

grizzled kindle
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it is tech geometric progression

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shld this be in precalc

upper karma
#

i think ur looking ofr something like:
(1 - 0.07)^n = 1/2

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the formula for that i believe is:
p(1 - r)^n
which can be expressed as a geometric series, but is also called the compound interest

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in this case, principle can be anything so ill just use 1

grizzled kindle
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oh i thought we would be using the

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formula instead of the compound interest formula

upper karma
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i guess you could use, that, but you might need to mainpulate it

grizzled kindle
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how so?

upper karma
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hmm, maybe im misinterpreting the problem

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so if its like $10
$10 - $10 * 0.07 = 9.3
$9.3 - $9.3 * 0.07 = 8.649
...
etc

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which if u look at the behaviour:
a - ar
a - ar - (a - ar)r
a - ar - (a - ar)r - (a - ar)r^2
...

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which generallizing takes the shape a(1 - r)^n
and as a test:
10(1 - 0.07)^1 = 9.3
10(1 - 0.07)^2 = 8.649

grizzled kindle
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ah ic

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i kinda just assumed that it was a general solution for geo prog

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then for that formula where does the 1/(r-1) come from?

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@upper karma

void wind
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I just joined if i've asked in the wrong channel lmk 😉

somber coyoteBOT
void wind
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i solved it boss! :d

serene hawk
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anyone got any idea how can i find range of a function like 85sin^2(x)-66sin(2x)+36 (or (6cosx - 11sinx)^2 after some simplifying) without using calculus? For this particular one it's supposed to be <0, 157>

signal pumice
upper karma
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intersecting secant theorem and chord theorem

signal pumice
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still not getting it. can u say from where to approach

silent plank
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apply intersecting chords theorem to the chords in the left circle

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(that'll give you a)

faint gazelle
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so, i need to make a problem that corresponds to this diagram, and it needs to require the equation: 5x - 8 = 3x + 20. how would i do this?

upper karma
#

should I make a tikz

silent plank
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for circle geo?

upper karma
#

ye

silent plank
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in use

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harvest existing stuff and copy pasta

upper karma
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too easy

silent plank
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I'd probably hand draw and scan

faint gazelle
somber coyoteBOT
weak quartz
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Hi! can someone help me with this? : Each angle in a regular polygon measures 171 degrees. How many sides does the polygon have?

silent plank
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@faint gazelle no. instead use definition of a bisector

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apply exterior angle theorem

weak quartz
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<@&286206848099549185>

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Hi! can someone help me with this? : Each angle in a regular polygon measures 171 degrees. How many sides does the polygon have?

faint gazelle
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@weak quartz ramanov just explained

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and, thank you ramonov, i just now realized i was writing it completely wrong, i appreciate the help

weak quartz
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ooh i thought he was talking to you

upper karma
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is there a formula for the sum of interior angle of a regular polygon? @weak quartz

weak quartz
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@upper karma try (n-2)*180 where n is the total number of sides in the shape

upper karma
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Right

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So in your polygon you have n angles of 171 degrees

weak quartz
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Oh I figured out that question already

heady lynx
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Can someone explain how

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so I know that sin/cos = tan, and sin / - cos = -tan, but that leaves -cos, how does that become +1?

upper karma
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soo like

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swap out the sin and cos with s and c, so its nicer to work with

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(s - c)/(-c)
(s)/-c - (c)/(-c) (split the fraction)
(s)/-c - (-1) (c cancels out)
(s)/-c + 1 (double negative)
-(s/c) + 1 (move negative out of denominiator)

heady lynx
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okay

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That makes sense.

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I was just not thinking about it properly

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I was completely missing the "divide both" part, and focusing on the fact that sin/cos was tangent, leaving me with a dangling cosine

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I hate making stupid mistakes like that

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Thanks box 🙂

bitter jetty
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for 3c did my teach write the problem wrong?

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i keep ending up with

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1/2(2cosAcosB-2sinAsinB)

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factor out 2

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you get cos(A+B)

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ive done it like 4 times

upper karma
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i am still confused how to do this

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thats a lot of questions

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yes

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it's like study guide practice

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teachers be like "what do you mean! there are only 4 questions!"

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@bitter jetty the question is wrong,
it should be:
1/2 * (cos(a + b) + cos(a - b))
your result is correct given, the right side of the equation.
probably a typo

signal swallow
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@upper karma are you confused starting with 1

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?

upper karma
#

@upper karma are you confused starting with 1
@signal swallow yes...

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so all these problems are the same, 2 is easier tho

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just help me figure out formula

signal swallow
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Okay. So starting with 1a, you want to find like terms to pull out.

upper karma
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id recommend u remember completing the square (forget the formula)

signal swallow
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So what do those two terms have in common?

upper karma
#

...

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(also factoring can go to hell)

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read the part from "Completing the square"

signal swallow
#

Let's start at the beginning though

upper karma
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where did "e" came from?

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Let's start at the beginning though
@signal swallow yes

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imo, factoring is a "shortcut", which should do after u know how to complete the aquare

signal swallow
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So in 1a, what do the two terms on the left side have in common?

upper karma
#

X?

signal swallow
#

correct

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so that is something that you can pull out, or factor out

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now rewrite the equation, but pull out an x of each

upper karma
#

oh lol these ones are super easy to factor i guess

signal swallow
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if you were to pull an x out of x^2, you get...

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and if you were to pull an x out of 6x, you get...

upper karma
#

how do I "pull out"?

signal swallow
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think about it like this: you want to multiply the ENTIRE THING by x

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i'll do the first one for you, to show an example

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the factored version would be x(x-6)

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if you were to expand that, you would multiply x by x, giving you x^2

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as well as x by -6, giving you -6x

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which gives you the original equation, x^2-6x

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so the factored version is just pulling out like terms and putting them on the outside

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remember if you have a term on the outside of a quantity that is in parenthesis, you have to apply that term to every other term in the parenthesis

upper karma
#

so, I just power by 2 the whole equation?

signal swallow
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no

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alright

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so x^2-6x shares the term "x"

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you found that out immediately

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so, because you know this, you know that both terms are multiplied by x

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-6 times x is -6x

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x times x is x^2

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you know that there are terms in that equation that are multiplied by x

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your goal with factoring is to determine those terms

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i'll draw out a

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see how you take the terms in the equation and break them down?

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i did that to find the term that they share

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since i know that they share the term x, that means they can both be multiplied by x

upper karma
#

OOOOOHHHH

signal swallow
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yeah it's really easy once you understand it

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but you have to get a solid understanding of it before you do anything else

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you will use factoring a LOT in the upcoming years

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you'll get very good at it

upper karma
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okay, I got it, how to the first 7, i guess. What about number 2?

signal swallow
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alright, so you've learned that if you do something to one side you have to do it to the other as well, correct?

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wait

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before we move on

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i assume you were taught about the zero product property

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which is what you need to use to solve once you get a factored equation

upper karma
#

o_o

signal swallow
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that's okay

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i can explain that as well

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so your equation is equal to 0 here

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x^2-6x = 0

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so when you factor that, you still have it equal to zero

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and in the factored equation, x(x-6)=0, the thing that MUST be true is that one of those terms you're multiplying together MUST be zero

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because to multiply two numbers together and get zero as your answer, you MUST have multiplied one of those numbers by zero

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so you take a list of what you multiplied together and set them equal to zero to solve

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in this case, you multiplied together x and x-6

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so you set those things equal to zero and solve for x

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so

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x=0

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and x-6=0

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so your answers would be x=0 and x=6

upper karma
#

got it

signal swallow
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alright, so with number 2

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starting with a

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the square root method is as straight forward as it sounds

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literally take the square root of both sides

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so for a, x^2=25

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since the square root is the inverse of ^2, that cancels

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leaving you with x

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and the square root of 25 is 5

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so x=5

upper karma
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O_o

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got it

signal swallow
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and just to clarify, for 2b

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it says (x-1)^2=4

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remember that it means the entire quantity (x-1) is squared

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which can be rewritten (x-1)(x-1)

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not that we're doing that, but always remember if the square is on the outside of the parenthesis, the entire thing is squared

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but in that question you again just do the square root of both sides

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completing the square is a bit trickier

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the way i was taught it, if i remember correctly, you need (b/2)^2 in order to shove it into the equation

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so take the b term, which is the second term, divide it by two, and square it

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in 3a, that's (6/2)^2 which is 9

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then that number becomes your C term

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and you also add that term to the other side

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so your new equation for 3a would be (x^2+6x+9) = 0+9

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then you factor the left side

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which can be a bit tricky, but there's a trick when it comes to completing the square

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b/2 is the term you can factor it into

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so 6/2 = 3

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so the factored version of that is (x+3)(x+3) OR (x+3)^2

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then you do the square root method

upper karma
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o_o

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I am so confused...

signal swallow
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yeah it's a lot to take in

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i'll do the first problem as an example

upper karma
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@upper karma watch a video on completing the square

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how to do the "c" problem on the 2 section

signal swallow
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same as all the other problems

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take the square root of both sides

upper karma
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how to power by two the 2x? Do I multiply 2 by 2?

signal swallow
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no need to multiply anything out there

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since (2x+3) is a quantity being squared, taking the square root of the entire thing will get rid of the exponent

upper karma
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so 2x powered by 2?

signal swallow
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the entire thing is

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that's not needed to solve this equation though

upper karma
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oh. ok

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what about 5th part

signal swallow
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what do you mean by 5th part

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i mean 4th, I am retarded a bit

signal swallow
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lol

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just use the quadratic formula

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you gotta memorize that eventually

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determine your a, b, and c terms

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then plug them into this equation

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here's a really good video on completing the square

upper karma
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determine your a, b, and c terms
@signal swallow is this for 4th part?

barren meadow
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Can anyone help me solve this?

signal swallow
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yes @upper karma

upper karma
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@signal swallow is that right?

signal swallow
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ah, i didn't look far enough to see they got a bit more difficult

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in this one, you have to multiply two binomials together

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my teacher taught me what's called the AM method

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let me illustrate it real quick

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basically, what two terms will ADD to 5 while also MULTIPLYING to 6?

upper karma
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can you show it in the equation?

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@signal swallow

signal swallow
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what do you mean?

upper karma
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like, on example

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@signal swallow

signal swallow
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what are the factors of 9?

upper karma
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idk what to do with 9

signal swallow
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determine the factors of 9 and 16

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an easy way to check your answer when you get one is to multiply the two binomials you get by each other and if it equals your original equation you did it right

upper karma
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?

signal swallow
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that is how to correctly factor it and check

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then simply apply the zero product property i talked about earlier to solve for x

upper karma
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Oh, okay, thank you so much

iron shadow
dark sparrow
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if you flipped a line segment left to right you wouldn't say its length would change from, say, 6 cm to -6 cm, would you?

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-V_B has the same length as V_B it's just pointing in the opposite direction

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@iron shadow

hollow hazel
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It's a covention to represent vector in a negative direction having magnitude same.

next flower
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hey could i have some help on a geometry problem?

slim remnant
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can someone help me out?

signal swallow
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no need to ask, just send the question

upper karma
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hey

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how can i change 3cossin to cos?

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the question is $cosec^2=3cot-1$

somber coyoteBOT
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and i reached $-1+cos^2+3cossin=0$

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i need to find the roots

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did i do something wrong?