#geometry-and-trigonometry
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yes
subtracting n360° from both sides would be one way to approach it
And make it n1390
that would be the value of **-**t
yes
Ohhhhh
now applying definitions of comp, angles
t needs to be between 0 and 90° inclusive for a complement to exist
so you can keep adding 360 to -1750 to get such a value
or set n to be ceil(1750/360)
ceil?
ceiling
Ive never heard of that term
smallest integer greater than or equal to
So keep adding 360 to - 1750 until when exactly
when you get something between 0° and 90° inclusive
well you determined t to be 50° and that's all that was needed
So the answer to this: Let t be an angle measure in degrees. Adding together t’s complement, t’s supplement, and a certain one of t’s coterminal angles yields a total of 2020 degrees. Determine t. is 50?
yes
Man I dont understand that
t was what you wanted to find, and the equation you set up is in terms of that variable
Why did we only need to find the complementary angle
Why did it need to be between 0 and 90
that's applying the definition of complementary angles
eg. if t was greater than 90°, there wouldn't be a complement
Ohhhh
Well thank you very much for the help! I really appreciate it.
Sorry for being slow lol
;calc (8.90*10^-2%)(138amu) +(99.9%)(x) = 139
,calc (8.90*10^-2%)(138amu) +(99.9%)(x) = 139
The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Value expected (char 13)
this bot cannot solve equations.
how can i form an equation only knowing: one x-intersect and a point on the parabola?
as stated, you can't
@dark sparrow you can, but i dont know how to
Find, in the form y =ax^2+bx+c, the equation of the quadratic whose graph touches the x-axis at 4 and passes through (2,12)
oh TOUCHES the x-axis at 4.
why didn't you say that.
as stated, it sounded as if you knew one root but not the other
but now it's clear. your equation can be written in the form y = a(x-4)^2, and the value of a will be fixed by that other point they give you.
i think i figured it out, thanks anyways @dark sparrow
I just started the Khan academy trigonometry course, but I am wondering if I should do the similarity one first
this one
What have you tried? @lean lagoon
@lean lagoon moving here. What thing did you do which got the wrong answer?
Hmmm, so is it rounding error or an arithmetic mistake?
rounding errors
in pink the answer in my calculator came up as 52.062 etc.
consider doing the algebra and only using a calculator at the end
yeah
Is calculator using radians?
either that or store intermediate values in the calculator, but the former is preferred
it wasnt on radians whoops
Well you want it to use degrees
yeah
For the problem with has degrees
I just started the Khan academy trigonometry course, but I am wondering if I should do the similarity one first
You should
ok
thanks
is there anything else I should check out?
I want to understand the basics of trig and geometry so I can follow my college classes a bit easier
Trig is more important than Euclidean geometry for calculus
Algebra
and is there any other site or book better for this than khan?
Algebra
@upper karma what exactly?
All of it
I am mostly comfortable enough with algebra to attent classes
and is there any other site or book better for this than khan?
"Art of problem solving" if you want more challenging problems
thanks, I will check that one out
I mostly need the basics now, so if you know any, please recommend
Paul's Online Math Notes
I want to understand the basics of trig and geometry so I can follow my college classes a bit easier
@Mr.Pancake🥞#6070 Khan Geometry is pretty good. Trigonometry can be a mess sometimes
If you're into books I can recommend you one
just started 9th grade so not sure if this is EXACTLY geometry. Doing this online but can someone explain to me in simple terms what a disjoint set and complementary of a set is? It's literally right there but I dont get the explanataion.
TL;DR: Explain to me what a disjoint set and complementary of set is and how it's supposed to relate to the Venn Diagram
Disjoint sets are two sets which share no elements between them.
For example, the sets:
A = {1, 2, 3, 4} and B = {5, 8, 10}
are disjoint sets, because they share no elements. However, if you were to take the sets:
A = {1, 5, 8, 11} and B = {3, 5, 14}
then they would not be disjoint, because they share an element. Namely, 5.
The complementary set of a set A with respect to a certain "universe" U is the set that includes all the elements of the universe that are in U, but not in A.
For example, if the "universe" was U = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10}, then the complement set of:
A = {1, 4, 9}
would be the elements that are in U, which aren't in A, meaning:
B = {2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10}.
Note that two complementary sets will always be disjoint sets, and that their union, meaning the set that includes all the elements in either one of them, is the entire universe.
How does this all relate to the Venn Diagram?
Venn Diagrams are used to represent in what manner elements in sets are "shared" between the different sets.
For example, if you have two circles representing sets A and B, then the Venn diagram would show whether there are elements that are in A that aren't in B, or vice versa, or elements that are both in A and B, or neither, etc.
Here are the respective Venn diagrams.
Notice that in the disjoint set example, the two sets don't intersect, meaning they have no elements in common.
In the complementary example, notice that the two sets have no elements in common (so they are disjoint), and that together, they make up the entire universe.
thx for the explanation really appreciate the detailed work
This is asking for the union of M and N so I'm thinking it's option 1 . Is this correct? Since im "uniting" all the numbers in the venn diagram
Sorry for responding late.
Also, you're correct.
According to the diagram:
9, 3 belong strictly to M,
4, 7 belong to both M and N,
6 belongs strictly to N,
2, 5, 8 belong to neither set.
You're asked about the union, i.e., the elements belonging to at least one of the sets. Which are, indeed, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9.
all's good
but can i ask
this lesson doesn't really go into the bold line on top of MuN
can you explain to me what it means?
i just know it means complement but it never really told me the use of having the line on top of it like that
The bold line means the complement of the set that it's over In this specific example, since you found: $\$
$M \cup N = {3, 4, 6, 7, 9}$ $\$
then the set $\overline{M \cup N}$ would be the complement of that set, meaning all the items in $U = {2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9}$ that don't belong to $M \cup N = {3, 4, 6, 7, 9}$.
RoiKadmon:
To use a visualization, if M U N are the elements in at least one of the sets, then the complement would be the elements that are included in neither of the sets.
i would be lying if i said that i got the explanation of the first one
so basically it would be outside of the venn diagram
2,5,8 to be specific?
Yup!
The complement of a set would be every element in the universe, that isn't covered in the initial set.
Meaning, if {3, 4, 6, 7, 9} was your "initial" set, then the complement would be all the elements in the universe which aren't in that set, meaning, as you said, {2, 5, 8}.
"MuN with line over the top" is basically in other words saying "find the complement of the set of MuN"
ahh i seee
messages on discord can be great things
Also, if I may note one more thing: Keep in mind that $\overline{M \cup N}$ would NOT be the same as $\overline{M} \cup \overline{N}$. $\$
$\overline{M} \cup \overline{N}$ would be the union of the items not in $M$ with the items not in $N$. This means that their union would be the items that don't belong to AT LEAST one of the sets, whereas $\overline{M \cup N}$ would be the elements that don't belong to BOTH of the sets.
RoiKadmon:
It's a command in LaTeX, a mathematical / graphical language for mathematical text.
oh
when it's stated that "Inlcuding 3 students on both teams" does it mean it's already included in the said fact that there are 20 students on gynastics and 10 on chess team
i suck at story problems
G for gymnastic and C for chess obviously
when it's stated that "Inlcuding 3 students on both teams" does it mean it's already included in the said fact that there are 20 students on gynastics and 10 on chess team
Ugh wait a sec
But it is indeed asking for that
What is the process
intersect and
complementary not
Wdym
read that somewhere
Oh yeah
I also had "U" as "or" in my notes
just didnt think it would matter as much
I just didn't understand what you meant
i guess ill go highlight
Ok but yeah
okay so how do you solve it step by step
Now notice it says are "not" ...
yes or not
So instead of asking for the union itself
We have to add the complementary part
As you said
How many students in the school are not members of either the gymnastic team or the chess team
Yeah
what got me confused was the part that said (including 3 students who are on both teams
wait no
Almost
How many students in the school are NOT members of either the gymnastic team or the chess team
uh huh
complement
Yes
So basically asking for ${\text{Total n}}-n(G\cup C)$
n is just to denote the number
what is 1?
Al𝟛dium:
what does n stand for?
denote meaning?
but why n-n?
Total n-n(G U C)
total number?
800-(g u c)?
My mixing of probability and sets may have confused you, i'll try not to do it again lol
say wat
can't it just be 800 (g U c)
What do you mean by 800 times G U C?
dunno
i thought that was just saying total number of students
but
since is story problem
it just requires logic
The total number of students - the number of (G U C)
Do you understand it this way better
Because we are asked for the ones that are NOT either on the chess team or gymnastic one, that's the reason for the "substracting the total number of students"
800 students
20 gymnastic peep
10 chess peeps
(3 included on both clubs)
*my guess is that the 20 gymnastic students and the 10 chess students are just there for counting. But it says 3 people are on both (included).
Im guessing it's tricky because it says (3 people are on both clubs)
800-30=770 would be the quick answer but it's wrong
Are you reading what im trying to say
i am
What do you not understand
i just dont understand why you have to set it up like that
Can you specify more
n-n(G u C)
No, i said "total n"
Total number of students
Do you not understand why it is total n minus the rest?
well the reason i dont understand is because in this online course they never set anything up like that
it was just venn diagram and identifying types of "sets"
You can visualise it with a Venn's diagram if you want
i think im just gonna move on as this is gonna be very long conversation if we continue
Can you not do that
i've already worked it out on notebook paper and solved it like a few minutes ago
just had to sit and think for a bit
Thank you for letting me know...
woops it's just i thought it was wrong
being honset, it's because you were saying a lot of stuff i wasn't familiar with, so I just had to find my own answer
sorry for inconvenience
If you're into books I can recommend you one
@sour jacinth sure, please do. I am currently watching Khan academy and I am not sure if it is right for me. I don't really understand stuff properly. Any source is welcome
What are you having difficulties with?
getting started
currently I struggle with similarities
When I start learning something new I usually have a breaking point where I suddenly come to a realization and everything falls into its place
that is at least what happened with algebra
now I am just reading through khan and while I remember what I read, I don't really understand it nor know what to do with it
it isnt that complicated 
Idk, maybe I am going in with a negative bias, but I always struggled with trig and geometry
any tips on how to learn and practice?
or some key concepts I should look up first
With both?
Algebra and Trigonometry with Analytic Geometry by Swokwosky
the only area in which I am even worse is probability
@Mr.Pancake🥞#6070 Are you me?
🤔
I struggled with geometry
glad I am not the only one
In my country there was a time when teachers did strikes during several years
And my understanding of geometry was defficient. Khan Academy helped me a lot.
My teacher didn't go on a strike but was just bad in general
That happens
she never explained how or why anything works
just learn these 2 formulas
and plug in the numbers
That's the exact way it was explained to me
while it was somewhat easier to get good grades
I now regret it
and almost resent her for that
What's your grade?
I loved math in elementary school but started hating it in HS because of her so I didn't practice on my own
I just finished HS and will be going to college in october
that is why I want to get the basics done so I can follow classes without too much struggle
yeah
That is why I am looking for good study material
I had a similar problem with algebra
but when I got into it, I managed to go over almost 3 years worth of material in less than 2 months
did study for 7+h daily though
damn
that's unfortunate
I was thinking about using this pandemic to learn math
but I had tons of work at home and also started learning how to code
and that is 100 times more interesting to me, so I pushed math back a lot
I would advise to learn math first
Math helps you to get a certain mindset that makes coding easier
Need help proving AN_2: N_2N_1:N_1D=3:3:1
I don't need help with the question itself
?
Ah yes, the probability is over 100%.
I forgot how to know when there is more than one possible angle?
cos theta = 10/11.18
like when im solving for theta
wondering if i need to worry about multiple possible angles, like I remember something about subtracting 180 or something in the past but i dont remember
depends on the context of the question
oh i guess since they are asking for the angle between vector v and w its just one answer
then just applying arccos would be sufficient
you're thinking about the ambiguity with the sine law
okay
Working on trig right now. Still a pretty new math student and still really early in Trig. But we're doing Unit Circle at the moment and we're having to write a paper on it at current. Maybe the unit is just worded badly but this question just seems to be giving me more problems than it should.
Which angle has terminal side which crosses the unit circle at your point? How did you determine this?
Would anyone help me decipher it so I can understand what it's asking a bit better?
currently this is what I am working with, I know pretty basic
what you have looks like it's on the right track (or is already solved)
what is your question exactly?
how to use trig to find the angle?
So basically, my current PreCalc class has papers due kind of breaking down what is happening. We're starting trig stuff at the moment. I am just a bit confused on the wording as I need to give a bit of an in-depth explanation on the above question. Maybe the question is poorly worded but I am not sure what exactly it is asking
The question was Which angle has terminal side which crosses the unit circle at your point? How did you determine this?
"your point" is point B = (b,a) right?
yes
is it an arbitrary point or is it the point (.8, .6)?
it's basically arbitrary, we were asked to select a point anywhere on the unit circle
okay
that is what I was thinking
fix one side to the x axis, and the other is the terminal one
yeah, i had already found the coterminals and all that too, i was just a bit confused I guess
so let's suppose we have an angle with one side fixed on the x axis and the other going through point B
so we'd be using, in this example, the origin?
for this context (and any other unit circle contexts), the angle will always be from the origin, and with one side fixed on the positive x axis
alright, so than from A to B would be the terminal side crossing the unit circle?
Alright, I was thinking that was what I was looking for but the question wording was a little poorly worded
so just didn't think it would be that easy
We're just dipping into trig and it's been years since I took any math. So this has been pretty weird getting back into
I honestly think they're just trying to get me to show that I know what a terminal side is
hm I'd say it's more to recognize the link of triangles and trig to the unit circle
ah yes, that's a really good way to put it
thank you so much for your help. I think I know what I need to write now. Really helped unjumble my thoughts
ok great
Do you know the bisector chord theorem?
Sure, the radius a bisects AC from the theorem, which basically reduces our steps but this could be done without it i think
As AC is a chord
But why not just use pythagoras?
On triangle ABD
And then after getting AB just remember that it bisects AC
Just use Pythagorean’s and times by 2
Also consider proving why it bisects it, it is easy
Kane, i was trying for him to reason through that. This server is for them to help and when you are alone on a test, they won't have you to tell that. So please leave

What do I plug in for abd
It can be helpful as he knows to what extent he needs to prove
my exam is on the 25th
Abd is already given
Where
No, it is not helpful, they won't have you there to tell them what to do, stop please.
Do you see that box
Abd is a triangle is not given
@dull kernel do you know what pythagoras theorem looks like?
So use it
Where c is the hypothenuse, agree?
However, here it is not the hypothenuse
Bruh
16^2 +14^2= c^2
No, the c is already given
Does that look like a hypotenuse
Letters can vary, they just represent values
Ok
Al𝟛dium:
My point is, you have to use the pythag correctly, side²+side²=hypothenuse²
Answer this question
Which side of the triangle abd, is the longest of all (hypothenuse)?
Answer me with: AD is the hypothenuse or BD is the hypothenuse or AB is the hypothenuse
@dull kernel
it is
Answer me with: AD is the hypothenuse or BD is the hypothenuse or AB is the hypothenuse
AD is the hypothenuse or BD is the hypothenuse or AB is the hypothenuse
AB
No, AB is not the longest side
oh AD
Yes!
It’s the opposite of the bottom right ?
AD is the hypothenuse, therefore the longest side
yeah I meant that
It’s the opposite of the bottom right ?
The opposite of where the right angle is located
I wouldn't always say the bottom because you can find a rotated triangle downwards
Ok good
So
$a²+b²=c²$ we just said that AD is the hypothenuse, so $\a²+b²=\underbrace{c²}_{\overline{AD}}$
Al𝟛dium:
Agree?
Yeah
16 and 14 yes
Nono, you forgot what we said, the a and b of the pythag formula aren't the same as the a and b from the problem
Oh wait no 16 and 14 are different from that my bad so a and b are the 2 other sides
Yes
yeah
Yes
$a²+b²=c²$ we just said that AD is the hypothenuse, so $\ a²+b²=\underbrace{c²}{\overline{AD}}$ and let's just use a on the pythag formula as the missing side which is in fact AB,
$\ \underbrace{a²}{\overline{AB}}+\underbrace{14²}{\overline{BD}}=\underbrace{16²}{\overline{AD}}$
Al𝟛dium:
Yes?
Just curious but
why is Bd and ad Those numbers
Why wouldn’t a^2 not be one of those numbers
How do u know where to plug Which number for each part
why is Bd and ad Those numbers
We are given those, they call them a and b in the problem, but we won't use their a and b
These 16 and 14 are basically what we were given that a and b where from their problem
I understand your confusion, the letters they are given are the same as the pythag and it confuses you. But you have to remember that letters just represent side lengths
Okay
$a²+14²=16²$ do you know how to solve this?
Al𝟛dium:
Try and if you have problems, let me know
,calc 16^2-14^2
Result:
60
Yes
A^2 =60
Yes.
Al𝟛dium:
You took the sqrt on both sides remember
Yeah sqrt of 60 is 2 sqrt 16
So it ends up as a and not a²
15
Yes
Oh yeah
Yeah
Bisected means it divides the side in 2 equal parts
Just in case
So what you have to do now
It is a simple movement to get AC
Knowing we have half of AC, because of the bisector theorem
What we'd have to do to get full AC?
Okay
Hey Zicro
hi denton
Answer this: if you have a ruler that is 10m long, you decide to cut it in half so that you get 2 equal parts, what would you do to get the measure of one of the parts?
Divide it
Yes
Yes
Remember we have AB=2*sqrt(15)
And remember that due to the bisector theorem, BD bisects AC in 2 equal parts
Yes
What do you think the measure of AC will be? If we have half of AC, Remember what i said of dividing in 2 equal parts
Would I divide 2 sqrt 15
Almost
If we'd divide 2sqrt(15) by 2, we'd get half the length of 2sqrt(15)
But we want the other half, remembering that AC is bisected in 2 equal parts
Okay, another example: say we have that ruler that was split in 2, 2 equal parts one of the parts is 10/2=5m and the other one is 5m AS WELL as it was divided in 2 equal parts! But say we have glue, and we want to get the full ruler again, we have that 1 half is 5m and the other is 5m, what would the full length be? 5 multiplied by 2=10m
Do you get why?
Why
Because it was divided in 2 EQUAL parts
If we say they are equal parts, they length will be the same!
Sup gamers
Nah Damon chill he help a lot but, ok I understand partially what u are saying about equal parts and sort.
ohh
I understand I think
Then
Do you know what to do if we have the same exact case but a different length for the half? How to get the full AC from what i just said about 2 equal parts?
(note that one half was 2sqrt(15))
It is trivial
Ok
Okay, another example: say we have that ruler that was split in 2, 2 equal parts one of the parts is 10/2=5m and the other one is 5m AS WELL as it was divided in 2 equal parts! But say we have glue, and we want to get the full ruler again, we have that 1 half is 5m and the other is 5m, what would the full length be? 5 multiplied by 2=10m
It just the same exact thing done at the end
But instead of a half length of 5m, of 2sqrt(15)
?
So do you know what to do to get the full side length of AC?
Remember the thing i did at the end of
Okay, another example: say we have that ruler that was split in 2, 2 equal parts one of the parts is 10/2=5m and the other one is 5m AS WELL as it was divided in 2 equal parts! But say we have glue, and we want to get the full ruler again, we have that 1 half is 5m and the other is 5m, what would the full length be? 5 multiplied by 2=10m
If they are divided in 2 equal parts
Try to think of it that way
So 2 sqrt 15 2 sqrt 15?
Yes!!!
Add
2sqrt(15)+2sqrt(15)
Because both half lengths are equal! And we want the length of the 2 half together!
Yes.
Good job
Also 2*2sqrt(15)
Because 2*2sqrt(15)=2sqrt(15)+2sqrt(15)=4sqrt(15)

Are you conscious of what we did? Or where you saying random things
I knew what was going on however I am just confused on
Also 2*2sqrt(15)
@upper karma
What does this do
It doubles the length 2sqrt(15)
oh
It's the same as 2sqrt(15) + 2sqrt(15)
So AC=4sqrt 15
yes
Ok
cool
Same as 5 x 2
exactly
Thx u very much I will go sleep now it is 5:50 am lol will be on in 4 hours
gn
Been studying all day
Al𝟛dium:
wow, who knew that adding a thing to itself was the same as doubling it
I knew what was going on however I am just confused on
If you were concious of what we were doing for 1 hour, you would have just not asked "so what do we do know". What we were discussing and i wrote a million of examples for you to say "what do we do now"
a Copernican revolution in our understanding of math
Sigh
Like, i feel you are gonna ask more in the future, just so this does not happen again, when someone tells you: do you understand it? Or whatever means just do you understand it, i'm asking if you are conscious of what we are doing and the reasons behind it. So instead of saying "i understood" while it seems like you did not far at all, say no i don't so that we can proceed without having a hole in your head. @dull kernel
I was being sarcastic
What?
I'm talking to DrunkenDrake
sigh
Ok thx I will in the future
would the intersection just be {0,2}? or is there no need to include the zero. Just asking bc i was wondering if it was needed.
yes
including 0, it's an element of the set and nothing special
why would u not include the 0
can anyone explain to me what this C symbol means?
proper subset
so for ex
B C A
"b is a proper subset of a"?
for example
also btw it isnt actually a C, it just looks a bit similar
for union
well i guess maybe it is universal set tbh
when i was taught it a different symbol was used but it doesnt matter
in this instance, yes
they even used the Union symbol in the text it appears
Manan:
hi guys if u know me thats nice but i finished my final test and i got a 95% overall in geometry so yeah i am a geometry expert thank you ann and hobo sas for helping me now i iwill help you so ping me if u neeed help yea
Good job @arctic vortex
@arctic vortex very happy to hear that! Good job
studying for a maths test on trigonometry and found this question. Given the domain −π<x<π, at what interval(s) is slope of the function f(x)=sinx positive?
0<x<π
−π<x<0
−1/2π<x<1/2π
−π<x<−1/2π, 1/2π<x<π
how would i go about solving this
thats very funny, deleting the message.
Multiplying out gives $\cos(3x - \pi) = 1$. Do you know reduction formulas with π and 2π?
Lunasong:
also did i do b) right?
Multiplying out gives $\cos(3x - \pi) = 1$. Do you know reduction formulas with π and 2π?
@livid moss ohhhh thank you sm
How do you go from sinθ/cosθ, to 3/5 + 5/3?
Also 3/5 + 5/3 is not 1
And 1 is not -1
Multiply luna
i think i wrote 3/5 * 5/3?
How did you get those values, that's what Lunasong is asking?
ohhh
How do you go from sin(theta) by cos(theta) to 3/5 * 5/3
Wow that's an ugly times, just saying
cause isn't tan(thete): sin(thete)/cost(theta)
That's true, but why is cos θ that
i thought itd be negative since its in a quadrant where cos is negative, but iwas following this formula:
But you don't know what sin(θ + π/2) is either
shoot i'm sorry; i have no clue what i'm doing ://
how do you find tan directly?
You are in the second quadrant, and sinθ is 3/5
so that means i use pythag to figure out cos yea?
Or just tan, you don't need to finr cos first
but to find tan you need cos..?
could you please explain? I don't think i'm following...
Yes
ohhh right right i think i've got it
And you have to do that for cos or for tan, so there's no need to get cos first
Well, based on it being in the second quadrant...
-3/4?
x is negative, so it's -3/4, yeah
thank you!
hello is this channel occupied?
ok nvm, so i have cone
so they have filled this cone with water, up to 90% of the cone
They want me to show that the water occupies 70% of the volume of the cone
any ideas?
you mean 90% of the height of the cone?
is it apex-down or apex-up
cause the percentage you're looking for won't be 70% in either case
it's not 73% it's 72.9%
says 73%
does it say "rounded to the nearest percentage point"
it says occupies "about" 73%
oh ABOUT 73%
the cone formed by the water has 90% of the height and 90% of the radius of the container.
0.9 * 0.9^2 = 0.729
It's perfectly fine, it's related to cone which comes in geometry
I have a question. If there is a circle and I take a fraction of its circumference out which leaves me with an arc. Now that arc is all the information I have about that circle. Just from that, how can I find the centre of that circle , the radius and the what fraction of the circumference did I originally took out of that circle?
take the triangle formed by the endpoints and the midpoint of your arc
or really any triangle whose three vertices all lie on your arc
its circumcircle will be the circle that the arc came from
What is a good proof for this theorem?
Through a point outside a line, there is exactly one line parallel to the given line
its circumcircle will be the circle that the arc came from
can you please elaborate?
what is there to elaborate on?
pick any three points A, B, C on your arc
the circumcurcle of ABC will be the circle you're asking for
ok
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Locate point X on segment AB so that AX is 3/4 the distance from A to B with A at position -1 and B at position +11
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Hey Guys, im new here. I've got a pretty hard mathematic problem and need to code an algorithm for it so i can use it in a videogame i am working on:
I have got a cubic bezier curve:
Imagine this one https://cubic-bezier.com/#0,.5,.5,1
And i need to somehow project a point (it can be anywhere) to this bezier curve so i can find the closest point on the curve and get the t-value from it
have you guys got any idea how i can solve this the easiest and most efficient way?
lol u didnt even show the function
$\theta=\cos^{-1}(\frac{2}{\sqrt{5}})\
0<\theta<\frac{\pi}{2}\
\tan(3\cos^{-1}x)=\frac{11}{2}$
Yes:
how do i found the possible values of x ?
2/\sqrt{5} is a solution
i can see
but i dunno how to find the other solutio ns
Hi, I am doing question 6, I have an answer for the following question, given in form of the surd 1/15 * (4 + 6sqrt(2))
I am using double angle formula for sin - sin(x+y)=sin(x)*cos(y) + cos(x)*sin(y), but I don't know how to obtain cos(x)sin(y) in terms of a surd
@crimson smelt where does the theta part come from?
@upper karma looks like channel is busy, but draw a picture of a triangle where x is one of the angles, and use pythagoras to find the other side length. Then you can get cos x. Similar for sin y.
@livid moss thanks
@crimson smelt where does the theta part come from?
@upper karma given from question
@crimson smelt where does the theta part come from?
@upper karma the top 2 lines are given facts from question, the 3rd line is what its asking to solve
so u are given that theta is a solution?
yeah
theta is restricted by 0<\theta<\frac{\pi}{2}
tan doesnt get repeated within that domain of theta
cos(theta +2kpi)=2/5^-2, so adding multiples of pi onto theta works for a solution to x
@upper karma secy=5/4 cosy=4/5
$cos(theta +2kpi)=2/\sqrt{5}$
the 1/2 exponent is only in the 5
@acoustic jungle Thanks, I solved it already👍
ah
it is still positive half tho
Yes:
it just means square root
ok so your using the cyclic nature of cosine to find another value of 2/sqrt5 ?
yea
so there is theta and 2pi -theta
and adding multiplies 2pi's on to both gives families
Yes:
$x= \frac{2}{\sqrt{5}} \pm 2\pi$
Yes:
we want cos^-1x to differ by pi/3
as 3times that gives 3 theta plus pi which gives same output in tan function
so basically we are concerned for the inputs of the cosine which differ by pi/3 and such that one of them outputs 2/root5; which is 0<theta<pi/2
so we need 3cos^-1(x)=3cos^-1(2/root5)+kpi
$3cos^-1(x)=3cos^-1(2/root5)+kpi$
Yes:
so divide by 3
i dont get it 😫
how can i use the calculator from the discord
,calc 9=d*sqrt2
The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Invalid left hand side of assignment operator = (char 2)
how would i enter, 9=d*sqrt2
im having some problems with a couple questions one being
for the bottom right triangle, i set it up as 9=d*sqrt2
but dont know where to go from there
divide both sides by sqrt(2) to get d
and similar ideas with special ratios to get a and b
@silent plank So I get to the point where i put
d=9/sqrt2 * sqrt2/sqrt2
am i going in the right directionm?
and simplify
have u solved it, @crimson smelt
err i mean
9/sqrt2
on the video i watch for the problem, it would be 9sqrt2/2
i dont get how though
$\frac{9}{\sqrt{2}}$ is equivalent to the correct value. That can be rationalised by multiplying by $\frac{\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}$ which gets you:
$$\frac{9}{\sqrt{2}} \times \frac{\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}} = \frac{9\times \sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}\times \sqrt{2}} = \frac{9\sqrt{2}}{2}$$
also @crimson smelt a probably easier way to realize why would be to just take the inverse tan function of both sides, but yea once you get that just divide by 3, and cosine both sides, to get expression for x
ramonov:
ah okay i get it.
@paper vale
so now how would i find b? in the example that a video im watching provides, it says that we should solve for b next, i get that a=2b, but how do i get what b=
have you started trig yet?
Yes:
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not really, its just like a review of geometry. I haven't done math for two years as I took an off year, so its all a blur to me
you may want to look up special triangles. trig isn't necessarily needed but it helps.
$x=\cos(\cos^{-1}(\frac{2}{\sqrt{5}})+\frac{k\pi}{3})$
Yes:
would using the addition angle forumula thing for cosine be a good idea
did u read my point about just taking inverse tan on both sides at the start
taking inverse tan wouldnt work?
ratios in a 30°-60°-90° triangle
the addition thing probably makes it less simplified
yea im talking about taking the inverse tan as another way to see why what we did works
like an easier way
but yea, cos(m+n) is more simple than expanding it
yeah id use the previous one
yea there are infintie
how would i solve
An escalator in a department store is to carry people a vertical distance of 10 feet between floors. How long is the escalator if it makes an angle of 30° with the ground?
does it ask for x to be in a certain parameter @crimson smelt
no
ok, if that was the case you would just plug in values of n whcih fit the parameter
yh
An escalator in a department store is to carry people a vertical distance of 10 feet between floors. How long is the escalator if it makes an angle of 30° with the ground?
what is this question?
the size of the escalator? it could be anything
How long it is
draw a triangle
would you figure out all 3 sides with the 30 60 90 triangle formulae and add them all together?
wait so u are literally finding the elevator's height?
you cant do that 
this is the question
oh wait i was confusing an escalator with an elevator lmao
lool
this question is just asking for the width which is pretty trivial
but yea it is tan not sin
im so confused :c
Would escalator be the hypotenuse
it would be sin
wouldnt h be the length of the escalator
h=10=o
huh
escalators are slanted conveyor belts
yeah ....
instead of 20ft, the height is 10ft for your question
but yea i guess it isnt that tbh
i just have no idea where to go forward to solve it, so frustrating
so what do i plug in?
no?
lol
technically that was true:
sin(30) is indeed negative, and isn't the same as sin(30 degrees)
so what do i plug in?
@fathom root well have u used sin cos and tan before
review special angles,ratios,triangles
you should be well versed in stuff relating to 0°,30°,45°,60,90° angles
right?
yes
sweet. thank you. just took a bit of reading in the textbook.
Find the remaining sides of a 30°-60°-90° triangle if the longest side is 9. (Enter your answers as a comma-separated list.)
when it says longest side it means hypotenuse right?
not the long side / short side?
ye
ok ty
well i went completely wrong somewhere
lul
finally got to my last problem, everything else right but this one
9/sqrt2 = 9sqrt2/2 not sqrt9/2
ye.
when i plug that tan60 into the bot, it gives me a weird looking response
,w tan60=sqrt3=c/b
c is 9
,w tan60=sqrt3=9/b
is that the right way to plug it in?
oh that means
b= 9sqrt3?
hmm got a and d just says b isnt correct.
the output says b=3sqrt(3)
oh my god
is which is also half of a, which is what you should be entering
question
question
i dont get it to be honest
you don't get what
a surd
that's british math speak for radical
basically just the answer in exact form
no decimals
you're not asked to "find" the segment*, you're asked for its length
i.e. the distance between H and T
so its basically just (-5, -4)
surd is also australia :c
so how do you find it
do you know what the word "distance" means
yes
ok what does it mean
how far something is
great so you know that the distance must be a number, and a positive one at that
now do you know how to find the distance between two points?
you minus them i guess