#geometry-and-trigonometry

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crude birch
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c seems to be linear

wind heart
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how so?

crude birch
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<11 and <12 formed 180 deg

wind heart
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Is it because it forms a line?

crude birch
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that's what i thought

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i saw a picture of the same question lol

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a is adjacent

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it disregard the angle at the left so it doesnt make a 180deg

wind heart
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For vertical angles, since they have to have completely opposites rays,

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DGE and AGB would not be vertical pairs, correct?

sly marlin
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yeah, not vertical

upper karma
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how do i find x?

sly marlin
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hmm

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are those the arc angles?

upper karma
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idk

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what theyre called tbh

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thats why i posted it herre

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i wanted to look it up

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but idk what its called

sly marlin
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They are the central angles of that arc?

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Arc measure

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I think

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you need to relate them with other angles

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angles that are between lines already in the diagram

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any ideas?

upper karma
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idk I wasn't in class the other day so i don't know

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i wanted to look iot up

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but idk what its even called

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lol

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also need help with this if anyone knows

spiral fog
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0<x<180

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X is not 90

upper karma
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how do i find this ? i thoguht it was 17x + 75 =360 but apparently its not

silent plank
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what's 17x supposed to represent?

upper karma
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the arc

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the above arc

silent plank
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construct lines to F and H from the centre

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(let centre be O)

upper karma
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i still don't really see it

silent plank
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do you know anything special about OFGH?

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constructing line OG may help you see it

upper karma
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the bottom arc

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is 75

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right?

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75 + 17x = 360

silent plank
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no

upper karma
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i see that 75 is the same on the opposite side

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of the polygon

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but thats about it

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its 105?

silent plank
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what's 105?

upper karma
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the bottom arc

silent plank
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and what's the reasoningvfor that?

upper karma
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75 + 105 = 180

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because the angles add to 180

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on the polygon

silent plank
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because...?

upper karma
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because the two angles add to 180 on the polygon

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the whole interior thing idk my math vocab sucks

silent plank
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why do they add up to 180?
does that apply to any polygon?

upper karma
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tbh i can't bel;ieve i didnt see this

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no it doesn't

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only rectangles / squares

silent plank
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this is neither of those

spiral fog
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That's not a rectangle but the reasoning seems right

upper karma
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yes its not

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LOL

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fuck me man

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idk how to explai nthis tbh

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i learned this a while back

silent plank
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you are looking for a very specific term to describe this type of quadrilateral

upper karma
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i remember the concept

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but idk how to exlain it

spiral fog
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C-

upper karma
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i can draw the angles that add to 180 but thats about it

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LOL

spiral fog
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It's cyclic if I remember

silent plank
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well for this question, you can find it without knowing the name

spiral fog
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True

upper karma
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yeah the answer is x=15

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i just saw it

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thx for the help

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how do i solve this one? I thought it was 7x + 3x = 80 because 40 is half of 80 then i can do 360-120 for CD but i think its wrong.

spiral fog
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7x/2 - 3x/2 = 40 I believe

upper karma
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what do i do to find the arc of CD though ?

silent plank
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construct EA, ED and EC

upper karma
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is it 160?

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for DC

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or CD*

silent plank
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1sec,

upper karma
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is just did 7x(1/2) - 3x(1/2) = 40

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and found x = 20

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then did 7x(20) + 3x(20) + DC = 360

spiral fog
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It's good

upper karma
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how would i write an expression for this ?

spiral fog
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CD = 360 - 10x?

upper karma
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last one, how do i think about this question?

spiral fog
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P is half the difference between wz and xy

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And wx equals zy

upper karma
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is wz and zy equal?

spiral fog
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Not necessarily

upper karma
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how do i find what wx and zy is?

spiral fog
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Wz + zy = 200

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Wx + xy = 160

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You don't need to find values for them, they don't have fixed values

upper karma
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what do i do with the info of the 200 and 160 split between the two large arcs?

spiral fog
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Take the difference, divide by 2

upper karma
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wait

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why?

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i don't understand the concept

spiral fog
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P = 1/2(wz-xy)

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Zy = wx

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When you take the difference, the zy and wx cancel, and you get wz-xy=40

upper karma
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OK

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i see

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oh

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i see it now

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thanks bro

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the two arcs are the same so we get the difference of xy and wz

spiral fog
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Yeah

fluid moat
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Yo

spiral fog
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What

fluid moat
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Can some one check my puthroym theorem

spiral fog
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Ok I'll try

fluid moat
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Sry I have bad handwriting

spiral fog
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Seems good

fluid moat
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K

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Thanks mate

spiral fog
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np

sudden mica
terse sage
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You want to solve for x?

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You can notice that these are similar quadrilaterals, which means that ratio of corresponding sides are equal

sly marlin
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???

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it's not similar if just the angles are the same

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@terse sage

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You can translate a side up and down keeping it parallel

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and the angles will be preserved

terse sage
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Hmm

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Oh yes

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You're right

upper karma
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so are tarski axioms better than hilbert or?

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and A is congruent to L in that pic? and M with B etc?

bright quarry
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Does somebody know a good YouTube video or thing that can explain more about Trig functions. Like I'm in calc rn, but I dont think I understand what sin or tan or etc. Is, as good as I should. I especially don't understand how Trig graphs (like graphing sin) work

weary drift
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once you finish reading the intro, head over to the video lectures and the practice question sections

bright quarry
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I'm not a fan of Khan. They don't typically go into the depth I want.

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Thanks tho

patent idol
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I'm not sure how to do this. Using the cosine rule to find exact value of y

dark sparrow
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can you write out the cosine rule

patent idol
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a^2 =b^2 +c^2 - 2bcCos(A)

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That was anoying on the phone

dark sparrow
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ok great

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well

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$y^2 = (3\sqrt{2})^2 + 3^2 - 2 \cdot 3\sqrt{2} \cdot 3 \cdot \cos(45^{\circ})$

somber coyoteBOT
patent idol
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Yep I got that, I'd send a pic of my notes but it got messy with frustration

dark sparrow
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i mean

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it's all just a matter of arithmetic from there

patent idol
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So 15-(18root2)cos 45

dark sparrow
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cos(45°) = what

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also

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$(3\sqrt{2})^2 + 3^2 \neq 15$

somber coyoteBOT
patent idol
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Cos 45=1/root2

dark sparrow
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so $18 \sqrt{2} \cdot \cos(45^\circ) = , ?$

somber coyoteBOT
patent idol
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18/root2 x 1/root2
Roots cancel out
=18

dark sparrow
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you made an even number of mistakes that cancelled each other out and gave you the right answer in that last message

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but ok

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my other point, which i am not going to repeat, still stands.

patent idol
dark sparrow
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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
dark sparrow
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oh ffs

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,rotate 180

somber coyoteBOT
dark sparrow
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ok yes good

patent idol
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Fanks. Ann

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Thanks*

nimble cosmos
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not sure what im supposed to do here

umbral snow
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sin(-3π/4), cos(-3π/4)...

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Just fill the boxes with the exact answers

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@nimble cosmos

nimble cosmos
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how come sin((-3pi)/4) is negative even though it's in the second quadrant

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im using the CAST rule and it says sine will be positive in the second quadrant

dark sparrow
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-3π/4 is not in the second quadrant.

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-3π/4 is in the third quadrant.

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@nimble cosmos

upper karma
dark sparrow
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what have you tried and where are you stuck

nimble cosmos
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ah i see

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im having trouble with this

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would it be 4/5 instead?

dark sparrow
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how did you get 4/3 in the first place?

civic lake
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yes

dark sparrow
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and how did it being greater than 1 not set off a red flag in your mind?

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@civic lake i wasn't asking you, nor is "yes" an appropriate response to my question.

nimble cosmos
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oh so if my fraction is greater than up, it's a red flag?

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cause it can only be from [0,1]?

dark sparrow
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no

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like

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cos(x) and sin(x)

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are always between -1 and 1

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so if your value for the cos or the sin of something ISN'T between -1 and 1

nimble cosmos
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ooh

dark sparrow
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then that's a problem

nimble cosmos
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i see

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i got 4/3 cause it got my SOH CAH TOA mixed up

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i was doing cos = adjacent/opposite i think

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yeah

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if sin and cos are from 0-1

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then what is tan

dark sparrow
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no

nimble cosmos
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oh ya -1 and 1 lol

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sorry

dark sparrow
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"from 0-1" is not only incorrect, it's also horrible wording

nimble cosmos
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ok

dark sparrow
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but the range of tan is the whole number line

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any number can be the tan of an angle

nimble cosmos
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i see

steep temple
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is there a way to get the magnitude, and the direction of the resultant force, in newtons and degrees respectively? I think I can use cosine rule somehow here, but I'm not entirely sure.
The problem is that I don't exactly know Vector 1's and Vector 2's direction

coral sapphire
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Use trig on the triangles probably

terse sage
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@steep temple You can use the cosine rule

steep temple
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what

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what do you think you’re doing

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do you think you’re smart?

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I literally mention that in my question

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You’re not helping anybody here, buddy

terse sage
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Chill, do you still need help, I can help further

steep temple
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no it’s ok

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I have my answer

terse sage
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Cool

steep temple
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yeah

terse sage
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No need to be rude, just saying

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I’m sorry if I said something wrong

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You can also do it by vector components

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Like, consider Vector 2 to be the x axis, break Vector 1 into components, add up the components, then use pythagoras for magnitude and tan for angle

nimble cosmos
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would the period for this be :

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$\frac{\pi }{10}$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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@steep temple damn, change your attitude bro. You asked a question and haddeji tried answering it.

weary drift
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@nimble cosmos 👍🏽

nimble cosmos
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is that a thumbs up to my answer being correct? @roek

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@weary drift

weary drift
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👍🏽

nimble cosmos
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lol

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okie dokie

steep temple
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He tried answering it 2 hours later

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That’s like trying to put a bandage on someone who died while attempting to put a bandage on them self

nimble cosmos
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so i have this

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and it told me to express it in terms of sinx and cosx

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$\sin \left(2\pi \right)\cos \left(x\right)+\cos \left(2\pi \right)\sin \left(x\right)$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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so i did this

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but it also told me to simplify my answer

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so i was wondering if this was simplified

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not really sure

sly marlin
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not yet

weary drift
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$\sin(2\pi) = ?$

sly marlin
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@nimble cosmos do you know that sin 2pi is?

somber coyoteBOT
sly marlin
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in factdo you know that sin is a _________ function?

nimble cosmos
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wow roketto and element wrote the same thing lmao

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nah i don't

weary drift
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inb4 he says sin is a trig function

nimble cosmos
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lol

sly marlin
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what's sin of 100 pi?

nimble cosmos
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0

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oh i sin2pi is 0

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i didn't read it properly lol

weary drift
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$\cos(2\pi)=?$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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1

weary drift
nimble cosmos
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but then i would have no cos left

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and the question says to express it as sinx and cosx

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$\sin \left(2\pi \right)\cos \left(x\right)+\sin \left(x\right)$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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maybe that is simplified?

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this question is very weird

weary drift
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have you submitted your answer with just sin?

nimble cosmos
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no

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let me try

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ok it is right

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what a weird question

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thx

weary drift
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np

nimble cosmos
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i have doubts on this Question

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so what i did

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was

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found $sin\left(\frac{\pi }{4}\right)=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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which gave me that

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then i found

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$sin\left(\frac{\pi }{6}\right)=\frac{1}{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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which gave me that

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so now i just add $\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}+\frac{1}{2}:?$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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oh wait

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i got it nvm

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i had to use the sum sinacosb+cosasinb thing

nimble cosmos
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i'm having trouble finding cos(-2pi/3)

umbral snow
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Which quadrant?

nimble cosmos
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Q3

umbral snow
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Very nice. It's a /3, so is it closer to the x axis, or y axis?

nimble cosmos
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y

umbral snow
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Okay! Something that is close to the y axis has a cos of ±1/2. But, q3 has a negative cos, so it's -1/2

nimble cosmos
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yeah

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wait you're talking about the x value that is -1/2 right

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im trying to use the unit circle

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but like i keep getting something else lol

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not -1/2

weary drift
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cos(theta) does give you the x coord if you walk an angle of theta around the unit circle

nimble cosmos
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im trying to use that

dark sparrow
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yeah

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you even marked the right point

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what are you getting if not -1/2

nimble cosmos
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i thought we have to do opposite over Hypotenuse

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right?

silent plank
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what is the ratio for cos

nimble cosmos
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adjacent over hyp sory

weary drift
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you can still draw a triangle inside the unit circle and use trig side ratios if that helps

nimble cosmos
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yeah im trying to

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i keep getting -sqr(3)/2

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adjacent would be -sqrt(3)/2 right?

weary drift
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how?

dark sparrow
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it's (cos, sin) not (sin, cos)

weary drift
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cos(theta) does give you the x coord if you walk an angle of theta around the unit circle

nimble cosmos
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what

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so i made a triangle

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i have to do adjacent over hyp now right?

weary drift
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sure

nimble cosmos
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so -1/2 is the x value right?

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and y is -sqrt(3)/2 is y value?

weary drift
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not the right y value

nimble cosmos
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so like when you look at the circle, it's like that right?

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sorry i meant -sqrt(3)/2 is y value?

weary drift
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-sqrt(3)/2 is y value
yes

silent plank
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1 sec, why did you mark the angle at the top?

nimble cosmos
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cause that's theta

silent plank
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no

nimble cosmos
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oh

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so where is theta?

silent plank
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theta is the angle made with the x-axis

nimble cosmos
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that is x axis tho

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im looking at the 3rd quadrant

weary drift
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are you looking at the point on the unit circle?

nimble cosmos
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yeah

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4pi/3

weary drift
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put your pencil on the point on the circle and draw upward til you hit the x axis

silent plank
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you're marking the angle made with the y-axis

weary drift
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that will be one of your legs

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for the hypotenuse, put your pencil on the point on the circle and draw a line connecting it to the origin

silent plank
weary drift
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now you have the right (pun intended) triangle

nimble cosmos
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isn't that the x axis?

weary drift
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that is

nimble cosmos
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oh i get it

silent plank
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and the yellow section you highlighted is clearly not the angle made with the x-axis

nimble cosmos
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?

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like that?

weary drift
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👍🏽

nimble cosmos
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oh ok

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so since i was drawing the wrong triangle

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i was getting the wrong ratio

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lol

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how do i know where to draw the triangle?

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so i just take the point

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and connect it to the origin

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and thats my hypotenuse?

silent plank
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yes

nimble cosmos
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i see

silent plank
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(for unit circle it will always have length 1)

nimble cosmos
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thanks guys this is making sense now.

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okay

silent plank
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and then draw a vertical line to the x-axis

nimble cosmos
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ok

upper karma
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guys need a bit of help

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does altitude split the angle of the vertex into half

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?

dark sparrow
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...context?

upper karma
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uhh

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I am trying to do this geometery problem

dark sparrow
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then post the problem

upper karma
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if my phone had any charge I would

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lemme check I kept it for charging

dark sparrow
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i mean, no, the altitude doesn't bisect the angle at the vertex it's from. not generally.

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the bisector does.

upper karma
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sec

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Ill send pic

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I'm trying to find the angle which is adjacent to the 70 degrees

sly marlin
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looks messy

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let me try to figure out what it's saying

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can you label some vertices?

upper karma
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k I'll draw it again

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I want to find $\phi$

somber coyoteBOT
unkempt jay
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wot

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so

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what is top right angle

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and top left

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700?

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oh

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70

silent plank
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are you given any info about triangle ABD?

unkempt jay
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what is top left

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4?

upper karma
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yes

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I know measure of AC

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and I know measure of AB

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what do you mean by top left?

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@unkempt jay ?

unkempt jay
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nvm i sleep

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@silent plank help him pls ty

upper karma
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I hate you

unkempt jay
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ok fine

upper karma
unkempt jay
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what is the measure CBD

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😄

upper karma
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no idea on that

silent plank
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you seem to be omitting some key piece of information

upper karma
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it's not a problem that was given to me

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it's a problem I made up

unkempt jay
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what

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what is the measure of CBD?

upper karma
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I've been trying to find $\phi$ for last

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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30 minutes

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what do you mean by measure of CBD

silent plank
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as given, there isn't enough information to find that angle

unkempt jay
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uh

upper karma
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AC measure is given

unkempt jay
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this angle

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what is that

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4?

upper karma
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we dont know that...

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it's the other way of writing $\phi$

somber coyoteBOT
unkempt jay
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ok

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unsolvable

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you dont have enough info

upper karma
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well

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this was the orginal question

unkempt jay
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send

upper karma
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it's a physics question

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after reading I concluded either their method is wrong or it is implicitly meant that

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wind exerts same speed in vertical and horizontal directions

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if so then angle of $\phi$ is 45 degree

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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I was trying to prove that

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@unkempt jay

unkempt jay
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i dont

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want to

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read that

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:c

sly marlin
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it's just vector subtraction

upper karma
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yuo told me

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there is not enough information

unkempt jay
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ok 45-38 = 7

upper karma
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to deduce angle

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....

unkempt jay
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with the question you gave me

upper karma
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if you can't deduce angle

unkempt jay
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there isnt enough info

sly marlin
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you didn't give the lengths

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originally

upper karma
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BRO

unkempt jay
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what

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OH

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THERES LENGTHS

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in the handwritten problem

upper karma
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....

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.-.

unkempt jay
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what

upper karma
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I told that there was measure before

unkempt jay
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you gave us a triangle with one known angle

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and thats it

sly marlin
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yeah, should have given the explicit values too

unkempt jay
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and half of another angle

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@sly marlin take over

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😄

upper karma
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ok fine, let's just solve the problem

unkempt jay
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ty

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nighty night night

upper karma
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@unkempt jay alright goodnight buddy

unkempt jay
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thanks epe

sly marlin
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so here, just decompose your 38 into a horizontal and vertical component

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that makes it easier to do vector subtraction

upper karma
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um

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they say the vertical component is equal to the total horizontal component

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rip

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😦

sly marlin
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what?

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really?

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argh

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I don't see that, where is it?

unborn bane
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No they don't that's a printing mistake

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In 3.85 they meant $v_{wx} = v_{totx}$

somber coyoteBOT
unborn bane
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and in 3.86 they meant $v_{wx} = -13$

somber coyoteBOT
unborn bane
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the real value of $v_{wy}$ is given in 3.88

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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@unborn bane How do u know

unborn bane
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I saw the pic he gave me

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I mean not me

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the pic he uploaded

upper karma
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Great

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Thank y9u!

buoyant spruce
steep temple
mossy plinth
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Imagine a polygon with n-sides with each interior angles incrementing by 5 degree each time, from 120 degree until it becomes an enclosed polygon. How many sides does this polygon have? Answer: 9 sides.

I found the answer to this question, but I'm still not satisfied with the fact that I have to add the exterior angles with slowly until it reaches 360. I want to know if there is another quick way to solve it. I tried using the Arithmetic Sequence, but it doesn't work if I don't find the last value or the n-sides (which is pointless).

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I know that the sum of the exterior angles equals 360, but I can't derive the number of sides given the 1st value and the sum.

steep temple
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you have literally 10 question channels to ask this in

mossy plinth
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they seem occupied, so I don't want to interrupt them.

dusty coral
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hey guys, i have a question, i need to find the area of the shaded equilateral triangles, all 3 inside the trapezoid are equilateral

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so i got 16, while others are arguing it is 8 sqrt 3, what is the correct answer?

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<@&286206848099549185> insanely important question, sorry for the ping

steep temple
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do you people realise help channels exist

upper karma
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You ping 15 minutes after posting the question.

steep temple
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"insanely important"

upper karma
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Also each side of the triangle should be 4.

steep temple
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🤦

upper karma
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!15min

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!15m

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!min15

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I don't think speyr working.

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dambn it

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The cmd is 15m lol.

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!15m

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there

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I got it

dusty coral
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yeah my bad thats why i broke the rule oof "insanely important", its for the greater good

mossy plinth
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the area of one of the equilateral is 4 sqrt 3?

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so it's 8 sqrt 3 because area of an equilateral is sqrt 3/4 (a^2)

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a is the side of the equilateral

dusty coral
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ok so you solved for height?

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what is wrong with my method, combining both triangles into a square?

silent plank
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the altitude isn't 4

mossy plinth
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I think you are mistaking to base times height

dusty coral
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yeah but the base is?

mossy plinth
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An equilateral triangle area can be found by base x height or sqrt 3/4 x b^2

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the base is 4

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since all equilateral triangle are equilateral

dusty coral
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i dont understand what i did wrong in my method

silent plank
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the altitude isn't 4

mossy plinth
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^

dusty coral
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the base is though

silent plank
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base is 4 thats fine

dusty coral
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i combined the two triangles into a square

mossy plinth
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ok can you distinguish a slant of a triangle is not the height of the triangle?

silent plank
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it doesnt form a square but a rectangle

mossy plinth
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you can find the height using the Pythagorean

dusty coral
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why does it form a rectangle?

silent plank
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the altitude isn't 4

dusty coral
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shit i thought they formed squares

mossy plinth
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you are basically using a base and diagonal to find the area.

lone scaffold
silent plank
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assuming those lines are supposed to be straight, vertical angles are equal

steep temple
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of course theyre meant to be straight stop being sarcastic

unborn bane
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lol

steep temple
lone scaffold
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@steep temple thank you

novel flax
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they are called vertical angles

mossy plinth
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Ur late.

zenith ember
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@upper karma Here.
$sin(x) + cos(x) = \frac{O}{H} + \frac{A}{H} = \frac{1}{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
zenith ember
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Also, $O^2 + A^2 = H^2$

somber coyoteBOT
zenith ember
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And you want to find $\frac{OA}{H^2}$

somber coyoteBOT
wind heart
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uh excuse me

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I need a bit of help with 16

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How do I find EOF if it’s not giving me any numbers?

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oh wait I’m stupid

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it’s 45 since it’s a right angle lmao

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nvm

mossy plinth
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lmao

upper karma
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a diameter of a circle joins the points C (-7, -4) and D(-1, 10). What are the coordinates of the centre of the circle?

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I need step by step for this question please

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Please help me out

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A parallelogram has vertices A(-2, -2), B(3, 3), C(7, 4), and D(2, -1). verify that the diagonals bisect each other.

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I need help with bot of these step by step as well

regal void
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I don't remember formulas, but use the midpoint formula to solve the first one

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The center of the circle is the center of the diameter

upper karma
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How?

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Idk what to do

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😦

regal void
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Basically find the avg of the points

upper karma
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OKok got that

upper karma
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But how do I do for a circle

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I know this formula already

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but how do I find centre of circle?

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with those coordinates

regal void
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The center of a circle is the center of the diameter of the circle

upper karma
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So...

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what is the formula ?

regal void
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You use the midpoint formula

upper karma
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OHhh

regal void
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Use those two points and plug them in

upper karma
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its basically no need

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for the circle

regal void
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???

upper karma
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theres no need right

regal void
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No need for what

upper karma
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Like forget the circle

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Its the same as a line?

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@regal void how bout the parallelogram?

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A parallelogram has vertices A(-2, -2), B(3, 3), C(7, 4), and D(2, -1). verify that the diagonals bisect each other.
I need help with this one as well

regal void
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No the circle is important, just understand that all points on a circle are equidistant from the center. If you were to draw a line between opposite points of the circle, it would surely go through the center of the circle.

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Since the two points are of equal distance from the center, then we can conclude that the center divides the segment (the diameter) into two equal diameters (radii). Therefore the center must be the midpoint of the diameter

sly marlin
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you just need to find the midpoint of both diagonals @upper karma

regal void
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^^

upper karma
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@sly marlin

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how do I tho?

rapid nexus
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how is $1/tan(tan^-1(2)) = 1/2$

somber coyoteBOT
pallid lily
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tan and tan-1 cancel and you get 2

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1/2

regal void
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^^

pallid lily
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they're inverses of each other

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like taking ln of e^x

upper karma
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@regal void

regal void
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Yeah

upper karma
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how do i do that I am so confused on this midpoint

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for parrallelogram

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For the circle its just the formula

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So nothing I do

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just using the formula

sly marlin
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@upper karma just take opposite vertices and find the midpoint

upper karma
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But for the parrallelogram how do I find the midpoint

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ohhh

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@sly marlin ok what after

sly marlin
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you are done

upper karma
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then how do I "verify'

sly marlin
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after you find both midpoints

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find both midpoints

upper karma
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?

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affter your find midopoitns

sly marlin
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then tell me if they are different

upper karma
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find midpoints?

regal void
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If midpoints are equal then I think they bisect each other

upper karma
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😄

regal void
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Wait no

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Yes

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NVM

upper karma
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@sly marlin

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if midpoints= its bisect?

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or no?

sly marlin
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what do you think?

upper karma
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I think it does

regal void
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Try visualizing it if it help

upper karma
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@sly marlin

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am i right

dark sparrow
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$\frac{1}{\tan(\tan^{-1}(2))} = \frac{1}{2}$

upper karma
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Just say I a,?

somber coyoteBOT
dark sparrow
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@rapid nexus typed that up properly

upper karma
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@sly marlin its differnt

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I checked

sly marlin
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are you sure you took opposite points?

upper karma
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Yes

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2.5,1

sly marlin
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what are your pairs of opposite points?

upper karma
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A and C

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B and D

sly marlin
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and both of them gave you (2.5, 1) as the midpoint?

upper karma
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yes

regal void
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Wait, then why did you say it was different?

upper karma
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OH,

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I meant they were the same

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Therefore, they bisect

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So yes I was right 😄

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Last question of the day: The endpoints of AB are A(10, 16) and B(-6, -12). Find the coordinates of the points that divide the segment into four equal parts.

regal void
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Find midpoint of AB first

upper karma
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ok

regal void
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Call the midpoint C

upper karma
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or m

regal void
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It doesn't matter

upper karma
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yes]

regal void
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Just to simplify

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Fine

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Call the midpoint of AB m

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Find M

upper karma
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????

regal void
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What's wrong?

upper karma
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Mid points are (2,2)

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I meant mid point is

regal void
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That is correct

upper karma
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ok

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im done/

regal void
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No you aren't

upper karma
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No?!

regal void
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We have to find the points that divide AB into 4 equal line segments

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So far we only divided it into two equal line segments

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1-->1/2 +1/2

upper karma
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now I divide those midpoints

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by 2 again

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correct?

regal void
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Find the midpoints of AM and MB

upper karma
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OHhhh

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I see

regal void
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To make a total of four segments

upper karma
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now I find midpoint of midpoint

regal void
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Yes

upper karma
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so howmany should I have

regal void
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AM and AB

upper karma
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3 right?

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M

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Am

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AC

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AB

regal void
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I meant MB

upper karma
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Not ac

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So thre are 3 mid points

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M

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AM

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BM

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RIght?

regal void
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So you should have AB midpoint, AM midpoint, and MB midpoint

upper karma
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OH

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And M

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so thats 4

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Oh kkkkk

regal void
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No

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three

upper karma
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But I got one

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already

regal void
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AM midpoint is just M

upper karma
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M

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OH

regal void
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So you need to find two more

upper karma
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so I fount the mid point of ab

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now I find the midpoint of A(and midpoint) and B(and midpoint)

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@regal void RIght?

regal void
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Yup

upper karma
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thx

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😄

regal void
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Yw

upper karma
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ok

regal void
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I have to eat dinner

upper karma
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so 1. (2, 2)

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  1. (6, 9)
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  1. (-2,-5)
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@regal void

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can you check if I got this right?

regal void
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You got it right

upper karma
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yessss

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thanks

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have a great dinner

rapid nexus
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$3sin^{2}2θ + 8cos2θ = 0 for 0° ≤ θ ≤ 180°$

somber coyoteBOT
rapid nexus
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i got this question in a past paper and have no idea what to do after the first step

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and i have to solve it

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my first step was

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$3s^{2} + 8c = 0$

somber coyoteBOT
dark sparrow
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your first step was to write an equation in 1 variable as an equation in 2?

rapid nexus
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s is short for sin and c is short for cos

dark sparrow
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ok well you haven't done anything then

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beyond that abbreviation

rapid nexus
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no

dark sparrow
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consider rewriting sin^2(2θ) as 1 - cos^2(2θ)

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also

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when writing in latex, use \sin and \cos

nimble cosmos
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for Question 12), would Opposite = -1 and Hypotenuse = -2?

dark sparrow
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no because (-1)/(-2) = 1/2 != -1/2

rapid nexus
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why is sin^2(2θ) the same as 1 - cos^2(2θ)

dark sparrow
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... sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1

rapid nexus
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oh yes

rapid nexus
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trigonomic equations, do you always have to get rid of the sin ?

steady forum
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Help R formula question part 1 2 3

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Please dm me

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How make 0<x+1<2pi Become 1<2x+1<4pi+1

somber coyoteBOT
steady forum
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thank you

maiden rain
quiet mason
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sin(2x)=2sinxcosx

dark sparrow
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let $x = \arcsin(5/7)$, then by definition $x \in [0, \pi/2]$ and $\sin(x) = \frac57$. you're asked for the value of $\sin(2x)$, which can be rewritten as $2\sin(x)\cos(x)$ as lionel just wrote

somber coyoteBOT
neat schooner
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hey can someone help me with simple trigonometry

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I never learned it but I just need it for one thing im doing rn

maiden rain
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Guys I know how to solve Sin(5pi/6) for example... But I don't understand what is Sin(1/3) ... is Sin(1/3) a thing ?

dark sparrow
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sin(1/3) is absolutely a thing but you don't... care about that

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it's sin(x) = 1/3, not x = sin(1/3)

maiden rain
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So I'm just supposed to put everything in its place without actually solving the problem yeah?

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oh

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Aw Thanks A lot.. I didn't notice..

dark sparrow
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you aren't supposed to find x and y themselves

maiden rain
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Yeah Thanks a lot..

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I just want to make sure I'm on the right path.. I figured out that Cos(x) = 1/3 ,right?

dark sparrow
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no, cos(x) is not 1/3 in that problem

nimble cosmos
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why does cotx go from left to right?

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like its up then goes down

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from left to right

dark sparrow
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...are you asking why cot(x) is a decreasing function of x

nimble cosmos
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yeah

dark sparrow
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bc tan is increasing, and cot is its reciprocal? thonk not sure what kind of explanation you're after

nimble cosmos
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hmm true

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okay

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thanks

upper karma
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The problem is: A and B are Alternate exterior angles formed by two parrarel lines cut by a transversal. Find mB if mA=38 degrees

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How can I do that?

dark sparrow
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make a picture.

upper karma
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There is no picture

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But how do I make it?

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Like the shapes

dark sparrow
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do you know what two parallel lines cut by a transversal look like

upper karma
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Nope

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That?

dark sparrow
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less clutter but yes

upper karma
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So I draw that?

dark sparrow
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no

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you draw

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two parallel lines

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and a transversal

upper karma
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So this

dark sparrow
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too cluttered

upper karma
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That

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So?

dark sparrow
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...

upper karma
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I have bad drawing

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But I just need help

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I just don’t understand the problem

maiden rain
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Can someone explain to me how 6-3/15 = 1/5 ?

random glacier
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(6-3)/15=3/15
From here, you can split 15 into 3x5, so
3/15=3/5x3. You can cancel the 3's, and you're left with 1/5

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Very similar to how 2/4=1/2

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you can divide both the numerator and denominator by 2

maiden rain
gritty siren
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you can

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6=3×2
15=3×5

random glacier
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You can simplify that

maiden rain
long sapphire
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you didn't divide the 3

maiden rain
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Oh got it now, Thank you guys 🖤 ❤

maiden rain
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Tan(x)= -1/-3 = 1/3 right?

nimble cosmos
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yes

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so im learning about the half angle formula

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and i was wondering why the 2 beside the theta disappeared in the bottom one

wary turtle
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Let's say x is theta, and you have "cos(x/2) = √[1+cos(2x)]/2". If you input x/2, what is your output? @nimble cosmos

nimble cosmos
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x

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x

wary turtle
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Yes.

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Because "2 × x/2 = x".

nimble cosmos
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oh

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i see

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why did they do theta/2 tho?

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why didn't they just square root both sides to get rid of the ^2

wary turtle
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There should be theta/2 in the first equation, not only theta.

nimble cosmos
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oh

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i understand this better thanks to you

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thank youuu

wary turtle
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You're welcome.

nimble cosmos
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why do we put the +- beside the square root for this?

wary turtle
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Because it can result in both positive and negative results.

nimble cosmos
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oh

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true

wary turtle
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For an instance: let's say you have "x^2 = 4".

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"x = √2^2" or "x = √(-2)^2".

upper karma
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$x^2=4 \ x=\pm\sqrt4=\pm2$

somber coyoteBOT
nimble cosmos
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true

fringe breach
fringe breach
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i don’t think so

crude hornet
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Find the set of values of k for which the line y=2x - k meets the curve y = x^2 + kx - 2 at two distinct points.

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I can't wrap my head around this one

keen scaffold
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So uh

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Anyone up and awake enough to help me?

dark sparrow
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there are at nearly all times people awake enough to help you. this is a pretty big server.

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what do you need help with?

keen scaffold
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Hih i suppose so since you're responding to me lol

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I just need a lil help with Geometry stuff

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Like definitions of stuff i mean

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Imma send a photo

dark sparrow
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yes, please do that

keen scaffold
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As you can see i got all of them wrong :)

dark sparrow
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ohhh fucking yikes those things

keen scaffold
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?

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Postulate flashbacks?

dark sparrow
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no, this entire exercise is just... really bad by design

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but then idk how to make it better

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and like

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this just reeks of two column proofs

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which are their own can of worms

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just... yuck. sorry, i cannot help with this.

keen scaffold
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Ah its cool

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How is it bad though?

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If i may ask

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Also anyone else up for it? :(

keen scaffold
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Ah

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Not really helping but its alright

upper karma
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Idg what the worksheet is asking.

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Wait nvm.

keen scaffold
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?

upper karma
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I'm seeing like random things.

keen scaffold
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Oh my

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Oh well

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Looks fine here

reef flower
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Need help with this I'm struggling to get a right answer... I think I know the way to get the answer it's just not correct.

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Find the line k through T(0,0,3) that is perpendicular to the plane P: 5x-2y+13z=-14. Find coordinates for the point U where the line k intersects the plane P.

reef flower
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Still stuck on this, this is my working so far:

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The direction vector for the normal to P can be found by looking at the coefficients of P; (5,-2,13). We let U = (a,b,c), a point on P. UT = T-U = (0,0,3)-(a,b,c) = (-a,-b,3-c). Also, UT = t(5,-2,13) where t can be any real numbered parameter. Therefore (-a,-b,3-c)=t(5,-2,13). Hence, a=-5t, b=2t, c=3-13t. Using b=2t, t=b/2. Soooo... a=-5(b/2), b=b, c=3-13(b/2). Since U is a point on P it must satisfy P therefore 5(-5b/2)-2b-13(13b/2)+3=-14. Solving for b, b=17/99. Plugging b into a,b,c in terms of b the answer I get is incorrect. I have no idea why im pulling my hair out rn eek.

weary drift
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@reef flower remember, all you need to construct line k is a single point and a direction vector

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you found P's normal vector and you know k must pass through T. how can you construct k using just that?

tawny tendon
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@crude hornet pretty late but if you still need the help:
Since the two curves intersect, 2x - k = x^2 + kx - 2.
Rearrange to get a quadratic in x
When does a quadratic equation have two distinct roots?

maiden rain
weary drift
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cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x). check whether those functions are odd/even

maiden rain
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cos(x) is even

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sin(x) is odd

dark sparrow
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yeah

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even/odd is odd

maiden rain
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Ok, But isn't right that just by looking at cot(x)s graph you'd say that it's neither odd nor even ?

dark sparrow
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no, it's odd just fine

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rotate it half a full turn around (0,0) and it lands right back on itself

maiden rain
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So even/odd is odd...

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tan(x) is odd as well and it's odd/even...

weary drift
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odd/even is odd as well

dark sparrow
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1/odd is odd.

zenith ember
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I usually find it helpful to work with the definition

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For this sort of thing.

wind heart
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Uhhhh I kind of need help

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Usually I don’t have a problem with these

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But since there’s more than one variable it’s kind of throwing me off

olive solar
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this is a combination of using vertical angles as well as supplementary angles

wind heart
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So would I do it like

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9x + 20 + 7x = 180 to find x?

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And then divide x by 2 to find y?

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or no?

olive solar
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you can find x and y like that yea, as well as z

wind heart
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let’s see

olive solar
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just try it out, i can check your work if need be

wind heart
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Is that correct?

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Also, is there an easier way of finding z then just guessing what would fit in with the variable?

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Like, for the next question it’s not as easy since it’s harder to guess what would fit in the variable

olive solar
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sorry, i didn't see the messages

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look at the value of z again

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the vertical angle shows that 5z = 110

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so z would not be 110

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@wind heart

wind heart
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oh

olive solar
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also for the second question, use vertical angles to find x

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7x-26 = 3x+34

wind heart
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I got 79

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For x

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But I’m kind of confused on how to find y and z for the second question

olive solar
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you got x = 79?

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or you got 7x-26 = 79

wind heart
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oh wait 15*

olive solar
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lololol

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anyways, to find y and z

wind heart
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((I think it’s 15))