#geometry-and-trigonometry

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wild mirage
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@hard gale (sorry for the ping, but your the one who was helping me with the question, I just wanna confirm I have an understanding)

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Cause they didn't cover this within the lesson

upper karma
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can anyone teach me how to find the perimeter of a composite figure

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i dont know if i should use distance formula to find the length of the sides and then multiply that or add it or what

hard gale
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@wild mirage yep it's good (I was sleeping)

tiny grail
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@upper karma send me the q

upbeat trail
rugged moat
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$$sin(90-(\phi-\alpha)=cos(\phi-\alpha)$$

charred spearBOT
upbeat trail
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Thanks alot

alpine marlin
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Anyone know about a parabola directrix and focus?

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my equation is y=-6x^2

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Vertex is (0,0)

keen aspen
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Rip

alpine marlin
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dude

keen aspen
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4p?

alpine marlin
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all i needed to do was put in y=1/24

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instead of just 1/24

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F

keen aspen
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Damn lol

alpine marlin
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picky computer system

keen aspen
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Yeah that's what I hate about computerized bullshit

alpine marlin
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ikr

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its not the first time its happened to me either

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spent a solid 15 min trying to see wat was wrong xd

calm meteor
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Does anyone know the relationship of the radii for the inner circle inscribing the inner vertices and the outer circle inscribing the outer vertices ?

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or if one even exists

amber raven
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@calm meteor that's a good question

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Basically boils down to

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Ratio of line segment from the center to the midpoint of a side of the regular polygon, to the line segment from the center to one of the verticies of the star

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If we take the length from the center to one of the verticies of the star to be 1

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We only need to measure the length of the line segment from the center to the midpoint of one of the edges of the regular polygon

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And how do we do that?

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Well if we know the side length of one of the outer triangles, then we can figure out it's height and from that deduce the length of the line segment from the center to the midpoint of the base of the triangle

timber lily
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I have to find the area of a parallelogram, but the vectors I have are in 3D, so how can I do it? I can't find the determinant since two vectors in 3D would not result in a quadratic matrix. I have the 4 points and the vectors that connect the points.

timber lily
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Nevermind, found lenght(a)*lenght(b)*sin(v) 😃

restive crown
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Are these two expressions equivalent? I solved for an integral using Maple and it spewed out that first thing.. whereas on paper [and with symbolab] I got the second.

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Maple's verify function is garbage, otherwise I'd use it.

gritty siren
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sin² = 1 - cos² should do the trick

restive crown
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have you done the proof? I started it while I was waiting

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Think i might of taken the scenic route though

gritty siren
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In the left one, replace sin² by 1-cos² and it gives what you want immediately

restive crown
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lol

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I tried to prove the other was equal to it

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silly me

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I just got to the end too

gritty siren
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that must've been hard

restive crown
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not really hard, just took 7 times as long

upper karma
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Hello all

tough jay
little osprey
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@tough jay Wots your question.

tiny grail
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The question is on there lol

tiny grail
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I know

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I was answering @little osprey

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And the thing is too small for me @upper karma

little osprey
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What?

summer mason
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If I want to upload a geomotry/shape question, do I upload it here?

hard gale
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@summer mason yas you may

summer mason
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I took a problem from my math test I had a few days ago, added some lines and made it harder than the actual problem in the test. Using a bit of Pythagoras's theorem and similarities triangle (if two triangles are similar then their sides' ratio will be the same) I was able to "solve" it and got an answer of approximately 21.28cm. Could anyone try it and tell me if I'm wrong or not?Thank you.

fringe bear
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Someone can help me please, it's for a questions

regal swift
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can someone help me?

marble zinc
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can you find the force applied on each rope?

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to*

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you know A will give a pull of m_A * 9.8

upper karma
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can anyone help me with this question and questions like these

marble zinc
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then you can compute how it is distributed among the two other ropes, and using the coefficient of friction you can compute the max for m_A

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@upper karma have you computed the volume of the cylinder?

upper karma
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pi r^2 h

marble zinc
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can you post your picture again it disappeared

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ok then you have the formula for the cube: 88h

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8x8xh

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you want to find h

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so 8x8xh = volume of the cylinder

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just solve for h

regal swift
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@marble zinc thk youu

upper karma
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guys i need some help

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so i have on a program an array of acceleration values

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i want to know the position of my moving object

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how do i do that,

keen aspen
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You want to know the position of an object based off of its acceleration?

upper karma
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yes

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i have a discrete sample of its accelerationg

marble zinc
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interpolate to a continuous function

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and integrate twice

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using numerical estimations obviously

keen aspen
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^

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use a proper regressional tool if needed

lusty sluice
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how do i find the angle measure of sin B= 0.4848

upper karma
lusty sluice
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yes because of vertical angle theorem

static river
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@lusty sluice B = arcsin(.4848)

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im assuming you're gonna use a calculator, arcsin is equal to sin^-1 or inverse sine. not all things write it the same

lusty sluice
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thanks @static river

static river
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np

upper karma
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can you guys help me figure this out ? Someone else sent it to me and I'm boggled

fair wigeon
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Is there any more info about the angles within the triangles, like, are the triangles right triangles or do they have other angles?

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@upper karma

little osprey
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I doubt it would be that easy.

copper valve
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use cosine law probably.

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x²=3²+5²+15cos(α)
x²=3²+7²+21cos(β)
2x²=5²+7²+35cos(γ)

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where α+β+γ=360°

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rearrange: γ=360°- (α+β)

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then form a system of equations

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using trig sum identities

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cos(γ) = cos(-γ) = cos(-γ+360°) = cos(α+β)

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so the last one turns into

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2x²=5²+7²-35cos(α+β)

upper karma
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Don't answer the question I just want to know what relationship does a have with c

upper karma
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@marble zinc thanks i'll try that

upper karma
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@marble zinc why a cumulative sum not work in this case?

upper karma
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already solved it

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oof

marble zinc
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@upper karma well I'm missing a few details about your sample, but the sum would give you the speed, not the position, hence why you need to integrate (or sum) twice

sick veldt
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someone prove my answers are right

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This questions gonna count a lot towards my grade

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and I hate proofs with a passion so please.

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<@&286206848099549185>

steady sleet
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#❓how-to-get-help
0) Wait a minimum of 15 minutes after posting your questions before pinging helpers.

  1. Give context e.g. what are you given, what can you use, etc.
upper karma
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@marble zinc yes

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i know i need to do it twice

sick veldt
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Im being given proofs for constructs section of geometry

copper valve
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we're not doing your work

sick veldt
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?

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I have the answers filled in

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I just need the work to be check

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@copper valve

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my answers are in the reason section, #3-7

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scroll up

upper karma
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i used the trapezoid rule instead

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from here

upper karma
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Using this

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Is it solvable ??

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Because I think it is

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Like that

south pewter
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Silly question but, this definition explained an obtuse triangle as having one obtuse angle. It can have more than one obtuse triangle, right?

upper karma
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I believe so but it's been a long time

south pewter
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If it has, say an acute angle

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Along with an obtuse angle

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Would it be acute and obtuse?

static river
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@south pewter a triangle cannot have more than one obtuse angle. an obtuse angle is anything above 90 degrees, and you cant 2 angles above 90 degrees in a real triangle.

south pewter
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Oh yeah silly me

upper karma
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Well damn it been a long time

static river
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for an acute triangle, i think it has to have all 3 angles below 90 degrees but dont quote me on that

south pewter
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Yeah that is what it says

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Now that I think about it it makes more sense

static river
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an obtuse triangle will always have an acute angle, so no its not both acute and obtuse. the specific angle can be either or but the triangle itself falls under the obtuse angle

upper karma
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Just because people are here can someone tell me where quantum mechanics would be

south pewter
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Kk

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Thanks

static river
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np man, feel free to ping me if you have anymore questions

upper karma
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Ignore my question

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I see how it is

static river
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@upper karma my bad i didnt see it. to solve it you just need to find the circle angle

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wait its not a right triangle one sec

static river
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could you make a box based around the line with a length of 3 and the C?

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then you could assign the sides some variable, im gonna use y for this

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y^2 + y^2 = 9

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y^2 = 9/2

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y= (4.5)^1/2

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then you'd have both sides of the created triangle

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@upper karma unless i did the stuff in the image wrong, you could find that angle then subtract 90 from it to find the angle on the other side. then you could use law of sines since you have the 5 and 3 to find the rest of it and eventually X

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@upper karma you can ask me

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are you asking for me to explain the stuff under reasons?

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so the statements column?

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because the entire thing combined is the proof

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i mean yeah i guess you could leave it without but the QED is just there to say you finished the proof. if your teacher wants that you should do it

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id heavily recommend adding it if its the teachers standard, no point in losing marks just because you didnt write an extra line. @upper karma

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yeah then dont do it

soft panther
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why is arcsin(sin(11pi/16)) not just 11pi/616

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*16 not 616

soft panther
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nevermind i understand

little osprey
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wdym real triangle

upper karma
valid pike
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Could anyone help me

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I'm working with triangles and have a test next period

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I'm having trouble understanding how with one given angle and a ratio how I can solve for the other two base angles

ruby swallow
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jamal

keen aspen
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Well it would be something along the lines of same side interior angles

fair wigeon
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Wouldn't it just be vertical angles

keen aspen
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They arent vertical

sick veldt
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How do they turn 18 into that

static river
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square root of 18 is equal to square root of 9 times square root of 2

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square root of 9 is 3

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oh this uses the fact that something that the square root of xy is equal to the square root of x times the square root of y

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@sick veldt

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works with division too

sick veldt
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Hmm

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but how can the square root if 18 equal 9?

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only 9*2 can equal 18

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If you square 18 you get an ongoing decimal

mystic shadow
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=tex \sqrt{a\cdot b}=\sqrt a\cdot \sqrt b\\sqrt{18}=\sqrt{2\cdot 9}

charred spearBOT
static river
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@sick veldt the top half is the theorem i poorly explained and the second half is how it turns into a 3

sick veldt
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Hmm

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=sqrt 52

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= sqrt 52

static river
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what?

spring apex
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@static river

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=tex \sqrt{18} = \sqrt{2}\sqrt{9}

charred spearBOT
static river
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i think you pinged the wrong person

spring apex
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@sick veldt

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:P

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=tex \sqrt{18} = \sqrt{2}*\sqrt{9} =\sqrt{2}3 = 3\sqrt{2}

charred spearBOT
spring apex
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also why is this in geometry-trig lol

wise halo
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An someone explain why this is wrong

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People keeps telling me it’s wrong ?

woven matrix
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For starters, for √3/2 = 400/c you would multiply each side by 2, not divide, so you'd get √3= 800/c

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Then I guess isolate c so c=800/√3 and plug into the Pythagorean theorem?

keen aspen
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Yeah you divided by 2 not multiplied

wise halo
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Aaaaa

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Wtf

ashen forge
gritty siren
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The area of a disc is πr² (r being the radius)
Since you've already got the area, you can directly calculate the radius
Then, you can get the perimeter with 2πr

upper karma
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Perimeter of square

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So, 4 * side length

gritty siren
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Oshit I didn't read the whole thing xd

upper karma
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"Lemme sum stuff up because I think that my writing was a bit confusing.

Now, a square is inscribed within a circle. Your question asks you to find the diagonal length of the square. So, now since it is inscribed, it's safe to say that diagonal length is 2 times the radius of the circle. Find the radius using area formula.

Since square is symmetrical, by pythagoras theorem, (diagonal acts as hypotenuse, sides act as base and height) diagonal^2 = 2 x side^2.

Perimeter of the square is 4 x side."

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I even wrote that up

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How else can one explain this?

gritty siren
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen forge
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its damn wrong dude

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its 8 sqrt 3cm

upper karma
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Even I got the same lmao

ashen forge
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i have the answer

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the problem is not the answer

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there is an error in the reasoning

upper karma
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uhh

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Can you say where I made a mistake in my reasoning?

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🤦 I should've not bothered a lot.

steady sleet
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@ashen forge #❓how-to-get-help #rules
0) Do not post the same question in multiple channels. This can and will result in being forcefully removed from speaking in certain channels.

  1. Do not be offensive and say things like "you're dumb". This can and will result in being removed from the server.
  2. Be constructive. This includes explaining why you think someone else's explanation/answer is wrong instead of just blatantly arguing that they are wrong. Simply saying "the answer is not what you got" isn't helpful. For example, your book could be wrong instead.
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.-. i see you prefer leaving then dealing with consequences.

upper karma
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@steady sleet He moved on to the advanced mathematics server, I'll deal with him there

icy venture
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hellooo

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I'm not really sure but I think this is about trigo

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There are three snails A, B and C are at first located in equilateral triangle form with length of 1m ( with bird eye view).Each of snail has speed of 5cm/min.
A goes towards B
B goes towards C
C goes towards A
Q1) find the time taken for all the snails to meet at particular point at the same time.
Q2) find the distance moved by each snail to go tht point.

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how do u solve this??

icy venture
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Pls ping meh thanks!

sterile mason
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if I want to find the x for y = 0 values of the function f(x) = sin(x^2) would it be 0° + pi * k or 0° + (pi * k) ^ (1/2)?

steady sleet
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@upper karma you seem to have handled it well

clear haven
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how did he get into the advanced maths server anyway

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arent the invites for that like super hidden

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actually hold on how did I get in to begin with??

steady sleet
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🤦

clear haven
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i mean proper maths

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wotever

steady sleet
clear haven
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t!purge 7

umbral snow
clear haven
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no i mean for "proper mathematics"

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the one where the icon looks like a jawbreaker

icy venture
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Guyss can anyone help meh?

umbral snow
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Yet another casualty of nobody saying "yes".

icy venture
umbral snow
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Lel, feel free to post your question, many can help

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In the future, just post. No need to ask about help

icy venture
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I already posted it. Should I post it again?

umbral snow
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This one?
There are three snails A, B and C are at first located in equilateral triangle form with length of 1m ( with bird eye view).Each of snail has speed of 5cm/min.
A goes towards B
B goes towards C
C goes towards A
Q1) find the time taken for all the snails to meet at particular point at the same time.
Q2) find the distance moved by each snail to go tht point.

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Interesting problem. They'd take a spiral thingy

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Do you know any calculus?

icy venture
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Yeah that one slr

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That's calculus?

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No I don't know any calculus

umbral snow
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Only observation that may help is that the snails always form an equilateral triangle

foggy oxide
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if we think about the segment that represent the distance between two lines in R^3 this segment it's perpendicular to both right ?

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(99% sure about this but yeah)

icy venture
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Soooo how do u solve it?

foggy oxide
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@icy venture what do you think about what i said ?

icy venture
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I dun get it

normal vault
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=wolf sin 45

charred spearBOT
normal vault
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yikes

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that's long

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is that irrational?

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wait no

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its described as a fraction

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🤔

buoyant oasis
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If you have an irrational number over a rational number ≠ 0, do you get a rational number or an irrational number?

upper karma
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Irrational number

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The thing is: consider that irrational number represented by it's own definition (c != p/q, c belongs to R, p&q belongs to rational number set); Rational number = a/b

c/(a/b)

Let's write that as [c(b/a)] / 1 Let b/a be X.

cX/1 = irrational number * any rational number will provide irrational value.

buoyant oasis
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Thanks.

upper karma
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Actually, this was a bit of clumpsy explanation. To be firm and exact, I would rather go with proof by contradiction.

stable tusk
hard gale
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this is not a problem, it's just an expression

cobalt sonnet
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what is the question

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try expanding the brackets

stable tusk
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to simplify the expression

cobalt sonnet
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csc^2 is not 1/sin^2

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wait yes it is

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mb

hard gale
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:/

cobalt sonnet
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id expand the brackets next

stable tusk
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wat u mean

hard gale
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(a-b)(a+b) = what?

cobalt sonnet
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the (1+1/tanx)(1-1/tanx)

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do that multiplication and simplify it

stable tusk
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1 - cot^2x - (1/sin^2x) ?

cobalt sonnet
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theres an identity u could sub into the csc^2x

chrome fiber
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or convert everything to sin, cos then simplify

stable tusk
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ya i was told to turn everything to sin cos to make it easier

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idk is confusing

chrome fiber
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give it a try

cobalt sonnet
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wouldnt putting cosec^2 = 1+ cot^2 make it easier?

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the question was just to simplify?

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does it give an answer?

stable tusk
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ya

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the answer is -2cot^2x

cobalt sonnet
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1- cot^2x -(1+cot^2x)

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gives u that answer

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using the expansion then the identity that cosec^2x = 1 + cot^2x

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gtg food shopping, if u havent been shown that identity then maybe thats not how they want you to do it

stable tusk
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im lost

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xd

chrome fiber
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$$\frac1{\sin^2x} = \csc^2x$$\$$\csc^2x = 1 + \cot^2x$$

charred spearBOT
chrome fiber
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this is what the other person was talking about

stable tusk
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ya but how am i supposed to get -2cot^2x

chrome fiber
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sub that into what you got

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what did you get?

stable tusk
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1+(cos^2x/sin^2x)-(1/sin^2x)

chrome fiber
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1 - cot^2x - (1/sin^2x)

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you can change that to

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1 - cot^2x - csc^2x

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which you can change to

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1 - cot^2x - (1 + cot^2x)

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which becomes

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-2cot^2x

stable tusk
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how do u solve this 1 - cot^2x - (1 + cot^2x)

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do i just multiply?

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holy im so dumb

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i dont even know how to do this stuff

rugged moat
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You open the brackets

stable tusk
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wat u mean

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how does this -cot^2x - cot^2x = -2cot^2x

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im done

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i need to sleep

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i just figured it out

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rofl

stable tusk
turbid axle
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I need help with a density word problem
About 70% of earth is covered in water, making 30% of earth potentially habitable by humans. Earth can be modeled as a sphere with diameter 12,700 km. There are 7.1 billion people in the world. What is the population density of potentially habitable earth?

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whoops

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wrong server

upper karma
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. . .

gritty siren
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Only one "=" I guess

steady sleet
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#bots if you wanna test bots

upper karma
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oh ok

stable tusk
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how can i solve this. tan(2x) - tan x = 0
interval 0 <= x < 2pi

cobalt sonnet
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first id sub in the tan double angle formula, tan2x= (2tan(x))/(1-tan^2(x))

stable tusk
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can u set both of them equal to 0?

cobalt sonnet
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is that question right ?

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there is no real solution to that

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u will get to tanx = i

stable tusk
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the answer is 0

cobalt sonnet
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hang on let me check again maybe i made a mistake

stable tusk
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ya u get , 0, i, -i

cobalt sonnet
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ok first sub in the tan2x = (2tan(x))/(1-tan^2(x))

stable tusk
gritty siren
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multiply the whole thing by 1-tan²x

elfin moon
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How do I turn a problem into a linear program problem? I have a dividing line that is the median of the x's and it splits my set of points into two sets, L and R. I wish to compute the upper convex hull. I can't see the connection between convex hulls and LP clearly other than the constraints are the dual of a point

stable tusk
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sec x = 4, 0 < x < pi/2
find cos x/2

queen hawk
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Oh wait is this wrong channel

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Whoops

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OK I'm not sure if this is the right channel but I need help in a question

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idk what to say lol

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Forgot to add cm,*

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Any help would be appreciated

cobalt sonnet
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cosine rule

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did u solve it?

queen hawk
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Cosine?

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No I'm struggling

cobalt sonnet
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do u know this formula

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$$ a^2=b^2+c^2-2bccos(A) $$

charred spearBOT
cobalt sonnet
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i guess thats how u would? ill try it like that and see if it works, maybe theres an easier way cus that way would be a bit messy

keen aspen
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Use the pythagorean theorem to find y

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Law of cosine is used when you are given SAS

upper karma
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Yeah Pythagorean theorem sounds right to me.

keen aspen
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Anyways yeah, (2x+3)^2=(x+2)^2+y^2

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Solve for y to get everything in terms of x

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Now you can perform any trig sub you want

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Well tan preferably

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Or cosine

stable tusk
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how would i find this
csc (x) = 2

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is it 1/2

frosty flame
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ok

hard gale
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well $$\sin(x) = \frac12$$

charred spearBOT
frosty flame
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ever heard

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of something called

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inverse sin

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arcsin

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or sin^-1?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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ok

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what do they do

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do you know?

stable tusk
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they get the inverse, xd

frosty flame
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ye it works the 'inverse way ' around

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xsd

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sin(x) = y

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arcsin(y) = x

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do u understand this?

stable tusk
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i've been doing this problems wrong i think,. but im finding the answer i think

frosty flame
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sin(x) = y
arcsin(y) = x

stable tusk
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i use the calculator and it finds me one answer

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then i use reference angles for the rest

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idk

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ya i get that

frosty flame
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ok so csc(x) = 2

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jusut like emeric said

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cant i say sin(x) = 1/2?

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cuz csc is 1/sin(x)?

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what do you think>?

stable tusk
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um

frosty flame
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what do you think

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csc(x) = 1/sin(x)

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so 1/sin(x) = 2

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sin(x) = 1/2

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right or?

stable tusk
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where did that 2 come from

frosty flame
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which 2 the 1/2?

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ok

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1/sin(x) = 2

stable tusk
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1/sin(x) = 2

frosty flame
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? thats in the given

stable tusk
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how u get that

frosty flame
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isnt csc(x) = 2?

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thats ur question?

stable tusk
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oh u put it there?

frosty flame
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wdym

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isnt the question

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csc(x) = 2

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find x?

stable tusk
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ya, thats wat i found after solving the equation

frosty flame
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ok rambo

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so csc(x) = 2

stable tusk
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csx(x) = 2
and
csc (x) = -2/3

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those 2

frosty flame
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ok lets first solve

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the first 1

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then u solve the second 1

stable tusk
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all i get for now is

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i know csc is 1/sin

frosty flame
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oh rly?

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so cant i just say

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1/sin(x) = 2?

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or ?

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what do you think?

stable tusk
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csc is 2?

frosty flame
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rambo

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you know csc(x) is 1/sin(x)

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right?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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now i tell u csc(x) = 2

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and you know csc(x) is 1/sin(x)

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can i say 1/sin(x) =2?

stable tusk
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yes ok i see it now

frosty flame
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ye we subbed in

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csc(x) = 1/sin(x)

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right?

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now

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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1/sin(x) = 2/1

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right?

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thats just 2/1

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right?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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so can i flip both fractions

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so i get sin(x)/1 = 1/2 ?

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right?

stable tusk
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multiply by reciprocal?

frosty flame
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just flip the numerator with the denom

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both fractions

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thats what i did right?

stable tusk
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u can just flip em?

frosty flame
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ye dude if u do it o

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for both

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get it?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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so u understand how we got

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sin(x) / 1 = 1/2?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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sin(x) = 1/2

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does that mean

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arcsin(1/2) = x?

stable tusk
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yea

frosty flame
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check ur calculator

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what is arcsin(1/2)

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u get 30?

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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thats ur x

stable tusk
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ya

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but

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like some of the questions have multiple answers

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7pi/6

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etc..

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i was finding the reference angle

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depending if it was positive or neg

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idk if thats right

glacial cedar
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I need help on a geometry problem about parallel lines

frosty flame
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bacck

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rambo

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ye ur right if i understand u

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ye ofc there will be multiple answers

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sin(30) = 1/2

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sin(30+360) = 1/2

stable tusk
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ok tell me how u do it

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after u get the 30

frosty flame
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how did i do what

stable tusk
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so i got 30

frosty flame
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ye thats ur x

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thats it?

stable tusk
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how do i get the other answers

cobalt sonnet
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x2=180-x1 for sin graph

frosty flame
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depens on ur interval

cobalt sonnet
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then +- 360 to ur solutions for where the graph repeats (depend on what interval they give u)

frosty flame
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of solutions

stable tusk
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wait im trying to process this

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x1 is the 30?

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180-30?

frosty flame
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yes

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u get 150

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sin(150) is 1/2

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also

stable tusk
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interval is 0<=x<2pi

cobalt sonnet
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oh ur in radians

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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2pi is 360

stable tusk
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ya

frosty flame
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so do what toby said

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x2 = 180-x1

stable tusk
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ya but 150 is not one of the answers

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not even in radians

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wait nvm

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it is

frosty flame
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hmm

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oh

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ok

cobalt sonnet
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is one the answer 5pi/6

stable tusk
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ok so i got 150

cobalt sonnet
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thats 150degree

stable tusk
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thats it, so is only 2?

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30 and 150?

cobalt sonnet
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for 0<=x<=2pi, sinx=1/2 solutions are x=pi/6, 5pi/6

stable tusk
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oh i see, so it cant be the other ones cuz it would be negative in the other quadrants?

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so where is this from x2 = 180-x1?
and wat about when im given other things

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like cos, tan, csc, etc..

cobalt sonnet
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x2=180-x1 is for degrees

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for radians its x2=pi-x1

stable tusk
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so i use that for everything?

cobalt sonnet
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no thats for sin graph

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hang on im trying to find the comand to display the graph

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=pup sinx

charred spearBOT
cobalt sonnet
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look first graph

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for sinx=0.5

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there are 2 values in ur interval

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for sin graph x2=pi-x1

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is just to give that other value (srry dunno how to word this else)

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cos graph x2=-x1, then u again would do +- 2pi to get further solutions

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tanx graph is not same though

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tanx graph repeats every 180, or every pi

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so u would just +- pi to find other solution

stable tusk
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and depending on if its neg or pos i pick which angle?

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in specific quadrant

cobalt sonnet
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well depend what question ur looking at

stable tusk
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ok so look

cobalt sonnet
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if question says, solve trig equation for interval idk say -2pi < x < 2pi

stable tusk
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for the other part of the problem csc(x) = -2/3

cobalt sonnet
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u would show all solution for their interval

stable tusk
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itd be the same thing?

cobalt sonnet
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ok so first u want to rewrite this so u have sinx =

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then solve from there

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ye

stable tusk
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so 1/sinx = -2/3

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then sinx=-3/2?

cobalt sonnet
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yh

stable tusk
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and thats arcsin right?

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arcsin(x) = -3/2?

cobalt sonnet
#

uh

stable tusk
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thats wrong

cobalt sonnet
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yh that doesnt work

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sine graph doesnt go that low

stable tusk
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so that one would have no solution?

cobalt sonnet
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there is no x for which sinx=-3/2

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afaik at least

stable tusk
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so its just the 2 from the first question?

cobalt sonnet
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there maybe a more advanced complex way to do it but at least for now take it as no solution

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wait what was ur first question

stable tusk
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ok so u said x2 = 180-x1 for sine only?

cobalt sonnet
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yh in degrees

stable tusk
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is there any for cos or anything else?

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cuz wat i've been doing is like

cobalt sonnet
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yh for cos, x2= - x1

stable tusk
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for the first question we got 30

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so i did arcsin(1/2)

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so thats my first answer?

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then i would just add/subtract 180,360 etc.. to find other angles that would fit the interval and the neg or pos sign

cobalt sonnet
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what is the question u were given

stable tusk
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after i do the arc watever i find one answer, then im stuck after that idk

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um

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3cot^2x - 4cscx = 1

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and i got csc(x) = -2/3, csc(x) = 2

cobalt sonnet
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yeah so if it gave ur interval as 0 to 2pi then it wants the answer in radians

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so u have pi/6 and 5pi/6

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from the solutions to cscx=2

stable tusk
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ya

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but look

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ok for this other question

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i ended up with sin(x) = 1/2 and sin(x) = -1/2

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so wat i did was do it in my calkculator

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arcsin for 1/2 and -1/2

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so i got 30, -30

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then wat do i do after

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this question has 4 different answers

cobalt sonnet
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then u find the repeats on sine graph by doing x2=180-x1 for each of them

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so 150 and 210

stable tusk
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this one also has 330

cobalt sonnet
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oh yea from the -30 u could add 360 too

stable tusk
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i know is like 360-30 but idk why/when to do that or if i need to do it certain time idk

cobalt sonnet
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the graph repeats every 360

stable tusk
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i know that

cobalt sonnet
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therefore if u have a solution at -30

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u will also have a soluation at -30 + 360

stable tusk
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ok wat if it was

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cos(x) = 1/2 and cos(x) = -1/2

cobalt sonnet
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x1=arccos(1/2)

stable tusk
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so 60, -60

cobalt sonnet
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for cos graph u can do x2= -x1

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then +- 360 to those to find the answers in the given interval

stable tusk
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i dont get this x2= -x1
then +- 360 to those to find the answers in the given interval

cobalt sonnet
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=pup cosx

charred spearBOT
cobalt sonnet
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look first graph

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say you have cosx=1/2

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if u put to calculator in radians it will give u pi/3

stable tusk
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ya

cobalt sonnet
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but there is another value

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at -pi/3

stable tusk
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yes

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is there a video i can watch for this

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i couldnt find one

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since idk specific name of topic or anything

cobalt sonnet
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idk try searching somth like 'finding other solutions to trig equations'

stable tusk
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@cobalt sonnet @frosty flame alright thx very much for all ur help ❤

cobalt sonnet
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np bro 😃

stable tusk
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i got test in 2 days

frosty flame
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wow toby deserves a nobel prize

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gl rambo ❤

cobalt sonnet
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😄 yea gl rambo

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once u start to wrap ur head around the fundementals with trig the harder stuff starts to make much more sense

stable tusk
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i did good on the 1st test

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but for this one i was absent to the classes cuz something happened

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so im basically learning everything on my own

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through the study guide questions the prof gave us

glacial cedar
fair wagon
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set the measure of angle 1 equal to the measure of angle 3, and the measure of angle 2 equal to the measure of angle 4

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then just solve it as you would any other system of equations

glacial cedar
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@fair wagon Whats the reason though?

fair wagon
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alternate interior angles would be congruent

glacial cedar
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how about angle 1 and 3

fair wagon
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shoot your right they wouldn't be congruent

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angle three would just be 180 - (angle 1 + angle 4)

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because the sum of three angles in a triangle is 180 degrees

glacial cedar
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oh yea

fair wagon
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sry about messing up

glacial cedar
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why would it be angle 1 and 4?

fair wagon
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because the angles 1, 3, and 4 are in the same triangle

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and to find 3 you would have to do 180 - the other angles

glacial cedar
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ahh ok

fair wagon
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Does that make sense?

glacial cedar
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yeah it does

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thanks

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so in the end

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system of equations with 180 - (anle 1 + angle 4) and angle 2 = angle 4

fair wagon
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yup

glacial cedar
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@fair wagon

valid pike
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Can anyone help me with creating a two way table

upper karma
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i thought it would be 118 because of alternate exterior angles but that was wrong

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can anyone explain

umbral snow
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You can use the 118 to find the complementary angle on the other side of that line

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== 180-118

charred spearBOT
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62

upper karma
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it’s 41 right

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wait

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that was another problem

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can i send another?

umbral snow
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@upper karma
The triangles are similar.
5/4 = 2.5/x

upper karma
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oh

little osprey
old topaz
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In triangle TBY using trig make YB which is the height the subject and do the same thing with ABX where you make BX the subject which would give you YB = h/tan24 and BX = h/tan13

flint citrus
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in the same way rip

old topaz
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oh lol

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nvm then

upper karma
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help on the partly done one please

astral hornet
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Use properties of isosceles triangles

tiny grail
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some help please

upper karma
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what are the properties?

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i didn’t learn that today

astral hornet
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@upper karma are you trying to prove CDA congruent CDB?

upper karma
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yes

astral hornet
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so you already proved that 2 is congruent to 3

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and wrote that the legs DB and AD are congruent

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which is shown in the diagram

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and you cant use DC reflexive, as SSA isnt a thing

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since you already have justified a pair of angles congruent and their corresponding opposite sides to be congruent, which postulate/theorem do you think would be easiest to find the 3rd congruence statement for?

upper karma
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i dunno i just learned this today

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hypotenuse leg?

astral hornet
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yes, you can use hy-leg, which is a good idea if you dont know ur isosceles props

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so you have justified 2 and 3 as right angles from perp lines, and hypotenuses AD and BD congruent. now you just need to prove a leg congruent.

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in hy-leg case, it's ok to pull a SSA, so you can justify DC reflexive

upper karma
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she said not to tho

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she said it’s implied

astral hornet
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wdym implied?

upper karma
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idk

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that’s just what she said

astral hornet
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so, which method do you think is also suitable, now that you have a pair of angles and sides opposite them congruent?

upper karma
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i dunno

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sas? aas? asa?

astral hornet
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all 3 is possible, but which one do you want to work with?

upper karma
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i don’t see how we’d prove any

astral hornet
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for example, using isosceles bisector, we can prove AC = CB and 5 = 6.

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and using prop of isos tri, we can prove 1=4

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you can end up with all/almost every pairs

upper karma
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i don’t think i’m supposed to use properties

astral hornet
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without the props, i only see hy-leg working

upper karma
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how would we prove the other side congruent tho

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wait

astral hornet
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which 2?

upper karma
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ohhhh nvm

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i see it

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but for the hy leg one what would i put as the third congruency

astral hornet
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you'll need 1) the 2=3 via perp making them rights 2) hypotenuses DA=DB 3) a leg DC via reflexive or AC = CB via isosceles bisector

upper karma
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ohhh

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that makes sense thanks

astral hornet
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np

warped lance
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Does anyone know if I can use the 180(n-2) for an irregular polygon?

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So, basically the polygon to the right?

upper karma
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Yea I guess.

upper karma
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I need some help

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Anyone online?

keen aspen
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No

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There are 0 ppl online sorry

proper charm
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What’s up I’m trouble with sum and difference formulas

keen aspen
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Ok

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Can you give me the problem

proper charm
#

#43 and 45 I’m getting the wrong answers

upper karma
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Triangle RST is congreuent to Triangle JKL. List three pairs of congruent corresponding sides and three pairs of congruent corresponding angles

proper charm
keen aspen
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R and J, S and K, T and L, RS and JK, ST and KL, and TR and LJ @upper karma

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Ok give me one sec

proper charm
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No prob I’m gonna grab a snack

upper karma
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Thank you my good sir.

proper charm
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I was having trouble with #43 finding cos (a+tb) specifically and 45 overall

upper karma
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PJS, when you get a second, I need some help understanding congruency

keen aspen
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Oh okay I see your sin(A+B) is correct lemme check your cos

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Okay I see

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You did +(-15/65)

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Where it was supposed to be -(-15/65)

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Or +15/65

upper karma
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I never thought I'd be saying this, but I miss algebra so much.

keen aspen
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@upper karma go ahead

proper charm
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Wow lmao

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i see it was just the sign and quadrant

upper karma
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I'll have to do it tomorrow, I got the answers for the worksheet I need.

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I just miss algebra cause it wasn't as much logic, it was more just plugging in numbers to equations

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Which are super satisfying to solve

proper charm
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did i get a dent on #45?

keen aspen
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tanB=3/4

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Not 3/5

proper charm
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Thanks I guess its just my sohcahtoa being off

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What do I do with the whole number 1 in the denominator

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would it be 10rad5/10rad5?

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so it could (-) with the other ones

keen aspen
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Idk what you're referring to

proper charm
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1 is part of the tan (a+b) formula

keen aspen
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OkY

proper charm
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you helped me with the numerator ya its in deno now

keen aspen
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Yeah you gotta change that 3/5 to 3/4

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Other than that its good

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Just simplify it

proper charm
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Okei thanks!

oblique ibex
#

Can anyone explain 16?

upper karma
#

could someone explain this please

little osprey
#

I don't see an E.

upper karma
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oof it got cut out

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hold on

little osprey
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I mean ok.

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What's the angle sum of a quadrilateral?

upper karma
#

360

little osprey
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So could you try and find x first?

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Do you know how to do it?

upper karma
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no

little osprey
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Hmm so all the interior angles add up to 360 right?

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So try 90+120+(2x+30)+x=360

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All the information is given on the top right part ofc.

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@upper karma Do you not understand?

upper karma
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i’m working it out

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it’d be 40 right

little osprey
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No?

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Actually yeah

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Sorry.

upper karma
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so what now

little osprey
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So then angle DCE should be 180-40

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The most important part is that you understand.

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Cuz they are supplementary.

upper karma
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ok

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thanks

little osprey
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No worries.

red warren
#

when are 3 sides unfit to form a triangle?

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one would be if one of them gets 0 or less

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but other than that.... something with pythagoras?

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if c² is unequal to a² plus b²?

upper karma
#

i think it’s

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when the two smaller sides add up to be less than the largest side

oblique ibex
#

hey i asked for help too

stable tusk
#

i have a question, for tangent and cotangent to find the period to graph is pi/b?

elfin moon
#

I'm told that if given a point p: (x,y), the dual of that is a line is `p* : (y=x_p*x - y_p). That line is also a halfplane in 3D. My professor mentioned that it could be represented like this instead:

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He never explained why it's 1/d

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And how do I compute that?

upper karma
#

You have to do advanced calculus.

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Its tricky stuff

upper karma
#

^prkblem has been solved

cedar perch
#

Can someone help me out? Thank u

upper karma
astral hornet
#

2 and 7 are outside, so exterior

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2 and 7 are on opposite sides, so alternate

silent sparrow
#

helloo

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anybody here ?

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can someone help me

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with graphing sin and cos phase shift functions ??

keen aspen
#

Sure

leaden gale
#

How should i do question b.

elfin mica
#

I have to prove that if two angles of a triangle are congruent then the sides opposite these angles are also congruent

astral hornet
#

you can prove the tri an isos, and use prop of isos

elfin mica
#

I’ll have to look up the properties of ISOs thanks

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Also do you understand what the hint is trying to lead me to

keen aspen
#

Law of sines

elfin mica
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oh

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do i just make up a value for angle CAB and then use law of sines

noble cloak
#

i hate geometry

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so much

keen aspen
#

I dont think it's a sufficient way to prove it however

copper valve
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honestly if it's from Euclid's elements

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trig should not be allowed lol

elfin mica
#

i still dont know what to do lol

lethal cloak
#

hey

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can anyone help with a problem?

lean wigeon
#

I’ve been stuck on this for while, had many attempts but never got anywhere

spiral shuttle
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@lethal cloak can u help me

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i'm only in year 7 so please explain this simply

lean wigeon
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9x+21=11x-1

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Substitute the value of x into 11x-1

lethal cloak
#

the lines are said to be perpendicular, and the one of geometry's theorems says that a line that goes through them will have corresponding angles

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Meaning 9x + 21 = 11x-1

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And from there you solve

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yea

lean wigeon
#

(5y-5) + (11x-1) = 180

spiral shuttle
#

wait a second i can't find the assignment that this question is on

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fuck

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hold up

lethal cloak
#

Wait

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Am i stupid lol

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That's 11 right?

spiral shuttle
#

whats 11

lethal cloak
#

x

spiral shuttle
#

idk

#

r u saying x=11?

lethal cloak
#

yea

spiral shuttle
#

ok

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idk yet im gonna try it

lethal cloak
#

Like konni said you'd substitute x into an equation where y is then you solve for y and you get both variables

lean wigeon
spiral shuttle
#

wait how do i solve it from 11x-1=9x+21

lean wigeon
#

Plus 1

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Minus 9X

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Divide by 2

spiral shuttle
#

ok

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why do u divide by 2

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NVM GOT IT

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its bc its 2x=22

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ok

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and it should be easy from there

#

thanks a lot guys

lean wigeon
lethal cloak
spiral shuttle
#

whats the command to solve an equation

lethal cloak
#

I think it's

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=pep

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=pup

charred spearBOT
#

Argument query required.

lethal cloak
#

Yeah it's =pup and then equation

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So

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=pup 2+2

charred spearBOT
spiral shuttle
#

=pup 11x11-1

lethal cloak
#

Yeet'd

charred spearBOT
spiral shuttle
#

=pup 65/5

charred spearBOT
tiny grail
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am i interrupting a question

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apparently im supposed to do this with complex numbers

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but i got stuck on the algebra

pure cipher
#

Hi, could you please help me with this problem: The angle on the base of the equilateral trapezoid is 75 degrees, the base forms a ratio of 2:1 and the leg is 10cm long. How much is the trapezoid surface?

vapid mica
#

Hey i have a Simple problem where i need to prove that a quad. is a trapezoid but iam not knowing how to prove the bases parrallel can someone help?

upper karma
#

hey

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can anyone help me with geomentry

noble cloak
#

=pup 8+2

charred spearBOT
noble cloak
#

=pup 123x=1

charred spearBOT
noble cloak
#

=pup 918231823961297317238120896380x01923712039=a876sduyiqaosZJL

charred spearBOT
#

Wolfram|Alpha didn't send a result back.
Maybe your query was malformed?

noble cloak
#

wew

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=pup x+y=x

charred spearBOT
noble cloak
#

x-y=x

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=pup x-y=x

charred spearBOT
celest pond
#

Im looking for a bit of help with inverse trig functions. The problem is cos(arcsin(15/17)+arccos(4/5))
I applied the cos sum formula, but i think i made a bigger mess. then im stuck with cos(arcsin(15/17)(4/5)-(15/17)sin(arccos(4/5))

umbral snow
#

sin²(x) + cos²(x) = 1

Letting x = arcsin(15/17)
(15/17)² + cos²(arcsin(15/17)) = 1

cos(arcsin(15/17)) = ±√[1 - (15/17)²]

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You have to keep track of the quadrants in which you're working though.

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So that also can be the negative root

celest pond
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I ended up figuring it out by drawing out the triangles and got cos(arcsin(15/17)) = 8/17. but i guess this wont always work because that triangle happened to play nice. I also dont get why you're using that formula when my problem doesnt have and raised powers in it?

celest pond
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I've got another one im stuck on. cos(2arctan(-2))

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Im not sure where to start, i assume i need an identity or something to manipulate the 2 in front of the arctan?

umbral snow
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@celest pond
This will always work, actually

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cos(arctan(-2) + arctan(-2))

twin delta
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good ol angle sum identities

celest pond
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I keep coming back to this problem and i cant figure it out. Everytime i try something, it gets uglier and uglier

twin delta
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kaynex gave a good idea

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split the 2arctan(-2) into two separate arctan(-2)'s

celest pond
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I did, and then I applied the cos sum formula to it. cos(arctan(-2))cos(arctan(-2))-sin(arctan(-2))sin(arctan(-2))

twin delta
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k hold up, i've been studying calc/stat all afternoon, gotta clear my head a tad

twin delta
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seems like a good way to go

celest pond
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arctan(x) and tan^-1(x) are the same, right?

twin delta
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right

spiral shuttle
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=pup 9x+21=1

celest pond
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cool, i got it. Thank you all

charred spearBOT
twin delta
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trig can be annoying

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but it also makes some things easier so i dunno, very bittersweet relationship

median holly
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Which angle in a 5 radius circle gets you the point (3,4)?

charred spearBOT
wild hamlet
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=pup calc arctan(4/3) in degrees

charred spearBOT