#geometry-and-trigonometry
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r ur exams done
ohk
what grade are u
Guys pls help me I need help 😭 on this stupid stuff I am cooked
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I am amazing in algebra tho
which
try that fe
this
mods bot
But in geometry I am cooked
where are u from
Wdym
country
USA
bruh!!!!
oh nice
send the solution
becoz I didn't understand the question
just search online
ye there is actually
How
what do u wan it for ?
search class 9th ncert
open triangles chapter
100s of these qn
Huh? Wdym @spark yacht
is any1 of u a master level person ? ........or r u all high schoolers ?
all hs
ignore it
i m in the wrong channel for some reason then
Does this look appetizing?
haha
Not everyone here is in high school
there is a bit of it but its not insanely important I would still make sure you understand the material well though because itll help with some of it
its abstractly important in the sense that you should have a good intuition of what these graphs look like
actually graphing them in and of itself is not super important
what is important is understanding the properties of these functions, and many of their basic properties can easily be understood if you can visualize it in your mind in some way
thats good
again, more importantly than merely what it looks like is their properties
for instance, where the asymptotes are, what are their periods, are they increasing or decreasing
so if you know those youre good
ohk
yeah in college theres math 127 which has trig
im in highscool tho soooo
anyways im sped and dont understand why i cant use tangets values
i did the whole method and put in the values and got it wrong and didnt understand why
so i checked examples and it just says that its not defined in this equation
the equation btw
cot(0) and cot(pi) don't exist.
Do u have math 55
cotx + √3 = tan^-¹(0)?
I got it dont mind
ikr
I know everything but geometry
or everything but circles
Hi what’s your take on this problem? For question 2 the official answer key for length of segment BD is 3 (6:2) and segment AD is the square root of 74
What info you have on the triangle
Just sides or any angles too?
Just sides
AD is the angle bisector right?
Yeah and on the answer key since it’s the bisector the segments created is equal that’s why they just divided it by 2 and I don’t think thats correct as it must follow the proportionality rule
correct
very obvious that angle bisector doesn't split the opposite side in half if you check an extreme case
i tried applying the sine rule as well and i dont get 3 for bd as well
yeah the angle bisector theorem states that BD : DC = 8 : 10 actually
Yeah lol our team leader is arguing that the segments should just be divided by 2. And that doesn’t follow the angle bisector theorem
It’s the official answer from the book publisher
bruv. when people don't know maths

there was a really nice exercise from a textbook in the help channels
that showed exactly WHY this logic was flawed
Yeah I should check that out
can't find the exact q sorry
Can you help me confirm the length of AD also. So that I can support my answer
,w sqrt(ab(a+b+c)(a+b-c)) / (a + b) where a=8,b=10,c=6
@stoic sun draw this triangle for your team leader
a very short but very long right triangle
ask him to draw the angle bisector and demonstrate that the hypotenuse is split in half
very obvious counterexample that disproves his nonsense
with a 90 degree angle here, its very easy to even rigorously disprove his claim even without much geometry at all
set the right angle corner to be (0,0)
the angle bisector is y=x
pick two points like (1,0) and (0,100)
the hypotenuse is y=-100x+100
the intersection of the angle bisector and hypotenuse is (c,c) where c = 100/101
if his claim was correct, the distance from (1,0) to (c,c) is equal to the distance from (0,100) to (c,c)
which is clearly absurd and not true, since the first is way less than 10 and the other is way bigger than 90
how to slow this $$x^8+98\cos(4x+3)=98\cos(x^2)+(4x+3)^4$$
olivka
I found x = -1, x=-3, x=2-sqrt7, x=2+sqrt7
wow
its from the Russian exam
,calc (-3)^8 - (4 * -3 + 3)^4
Result:
0
ah ofc
does that give you any information?
Can anybody solve this question for me? As in which quantity is greater or smaller or equal or relationship cannot be determined
The larger the difference between each angle and 90 degrees, the longer the respective side is
Bro its basic.If he don't underrstand then give him some time
In an assignment, I should construct a simple sinusoidally oscillating model for atmospheric CO2 concentrations over 12 months.
The oscillation's magnitude is 5 ppm, the average concentration is 420 ppm and the highest point is in May and this is my solution (t is time in months). I think it's right, but in the assignment solution, the c parameter not -2 but 10. Am I missing something or is the solution stated by assignment wrong?
30-60-90?
And 45-45-90?
Or just like
Right, acute..
Because if the bisector is just splitting it in half both triangles should be right triangles
and if so, the base of both should be equal, and they both share a bisector, so the base^2+ bisector^2= H
And if they are equal, the sides are equal
Therefore it should be an equilateral triangle if everything is equal
But in the image it doesnt show that
I just need more details
geo
This is the answer from the book
Yeah this is correct
The figure is deceiving tho
AD as bisector. BD =3
work is incorrect
the diagram indicates that AD is the angle bisector of angle A,
(not the same as the median from A to BC)
D won't bisect BC here. it's not as simple as just dividing by 2
what part indicates that it is the angle bisector?
the arcs at angle A
didnt we just go over how this is wrong if this is an angle bisector?
what about them?
there are two arcs both coloured yellow implying congruence
Given ∆ABC. M is a point inside ∆ABC. AM, BM, CM intersect BC, CA, AB in order at I, J, K. The line through M parallel to BC intersects IJ, KI at E, F. Prove that ME=MF.
I think i'll definitely need to draw extra lines here
I've been trying to do so, idk which lines to draw
Anyone knows? My intuition isn't great
<@&286206848099549185>
I need help with these two questions I wanna know the answers
we aint gonna give you answers but can guide you so you know how to do it
i dont even know what angle a is measuring here lol
I understand it for those angles. How would the trigonometric ratios be calculated for triangles of different angles, like a 55°, 90°, 35° triangle?
calc which is short for calculator btw
but what if I don't have a calculator?
here for example, it is easy to know how sin 30° = 1/2, as well as for the other functions or angles shown.
🤷♂️
but I have no idea how to evaluate the trigonometric functions for other angles
in general, you would need the trig functions themselves, sin/cos/tan/etc
there is no general method otherwise
only very specific angles are even expressible with the 4 basic operations + radicals and such
there is, for example, a half angle formula
so if you have like 45-45-90 ratios
you can also do 22.5 degrees
and repeat, so you can also do 12.75, etc
there are some other very specific ones, like 72 degrees is also doable, but not nearly as easily
I want to learn those methods, seems interesting
if you want to know what values are even doable at all, i recommend going here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_trigonometric_values
look at the section on constructible values
not sure what the values are in general, that you'll have to research yourself
Tyvm
Bruh I already solved it and just wanna check besides that’s no even a hw im js testing myself
im not sure we know that
you could just say what your answer is and roughly how you got it and we would be happy to confirm i think
Draw a line through A, parallel to BC. And let continuations of rays IK and IJ intersect it at D and G respectively. Then you have similar triangles and find AD/AG=1 by similarity and Cheva. So IA is a median of the triangle IDG, so ME=MF.
could anyone realistically have the time to simpliy this
p not equal to 0 and ±90
yes
well i made it to be like
the
identities thing
pythagorean identity
but extra steps
one important thing is you dont need to convert 1-sin^x into cos^2x
if you already cancel it out
@foggy galleon here's some cursed math for you.
WOW
heres this https://www.desmos.com/calculator/aih4o6kisg
wtf
bro went fom integs suck to dont suck
same
indee
o
mine is just the pythagorean identity tho
mine 2+2 deluxe edition
i made it for fun
idk how to add that
but desmos doesn't understand that
yeah (even tho i didnt study that 💀)
it's university stuff i think
possible to combine them?
bro my torture thingy turned into text is so long discord wont let me send it
all 3 things inside something
longer, more complex
i must
then give it to ur kid if he wants mcdonalds
desmos cant do that
from the sums
ohk
how?
in the settings
turn on complex numbers
and i will be turned into root negative 1
i go see
id give it to my son if he crying to go to mcd, solve to eat
lol
modern discipline
realistically every one of the ones in my desmos thing is just 1
the answer is 1
yes, if no solve id give him mine + yours
and yours is 4
yeah i saw
yep
your one is mad
either way ima js make little cursed things to combine with my big one
ye
ima borrow ur equation a lil
wtf
with respec tto h with respect to g
with respect to a
with respect to b
wiath respect to d
lol
where he at
20 hours work
heaven
oop nvm let him miss out
dam
this should be in museum
what the heck!??
i want to sell it for 3 million

cmon it aint that bad take a look
USD?
I already copied the equation and pasted it in a LATEX compiler. i.e I'm selling it for 1 million USD. if anyone's interested 💀
?
no your stealing my hard work
How to derive that formula? I can't make sense of it
I know cos a-cos b=-2sin[(a+b)/2]sin[(a-b)/2]
and cos a + cos b=2cos [(a+b)/2]cos[(a-b)/2]
calculator
do you know your double angle formulas
Guys am I cooked I don’t even know how to do congruent angles theorem and also ASA and putting the given for them
The given for ASA would be, for example, angle J is congruent to angle K, and a side has a tick. To determine that a triangle is congruent by ASA, their must be a congruent angle, a tick-marked side, and a congruent angle, in that order. I’ll send a pic to show you because im bad with words
I hope this helps
Wait mb AAS does prove congruency
Here’s the more detailed explanation if it helps
Plss hiw do u do this
Ik it's ljke 400+x^2=(x+12)^2
Omg nvm I forgot how to do algebra
the law of cosines 
that probably wasn't the answer you were looking for but 💀
thanks
@foggy galleon
that's how the world works
lol
i been awakened
did you work on it
with patent i ruin you
yeah im working on it
ok
making a different torture equation to put on the original one
ok
integrals don't suck
texit can't compile this masterpiece
what
wwhy
what does it mean
its MATHS so its NUMBERS why is it all LETTERS
😿😿😿
\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)^{ - \left( \int_0^1 \frac{d}{dx} x , dx \right)} \left( \frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx}(x) - \cos^2(p) \tan^2(p) \right) \left( \frac{\cos^2(p) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)}{\cos^2(p)} \right) }{ \frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{\frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{ \left( \int_{\frac{d}{df} 0}^{\frac{d}{dt} t} \left( 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3} \right)}{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^2}{ \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^{ \int_{-2}^{1} dt}}{ \int_{-2}^{1} dt} \right) }{\int_{-1}^{1} dt} \right) \right) \right) \right)} \right)} \right) \right) \right) dx \right) - \left( \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \left( \cos^2(p) \left( \frac{\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\tan^2(p)} \right) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\cos^2(p)} \right)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\frac{ \left( \cos^2(p) \tan^2(p) \right)}{\cos^2(p)}} \right) \right) \right) \left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right) \right) \right) \right) } \right) \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) \right) \frac{d}{dx} \left( x \left( \frac{ \left( \int_{-1}^{1} dx \right)}{ \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3} \right)}{2} \right) \right) } \right) \right) \right) \left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p)
make trig functions and stuff
(trust me i didnt study triginometry)
oh
$$
\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)^{ - \left( \int_0^1 \frac{d}{dx} x , dx \right)} \left( \frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx}(x) - \cos^2(p) \tan^2(p) \right) \left( \frac{\cos^2(p) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)}{\cos^2(p)} \right) }{ \frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{\frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{ \left( \int_{\frac{d}{df} 0}^{\frac{d}{dt} t} \left( 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3} \right)}{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^2}{ \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^{ \int_{-2}^{1} dt}}{ \int_{-2}^{1} dt} \right) }{\int_{-1}^{1} dt} \right) \right) \right) \right)} \right)} \right) \right) \right) dx \right) - \left( \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \left( \cos^2(p) \left( \frac{\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\tan^2(p)} \right) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\cos^2(p)} \right)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\frac{ \left( \cos^2(p) \tan^2(p) \right)}{\cos^2(p)}} \right) \right) \right) \left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right) \right) \right) \right) } \right) \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) \right) \frac{d}{dx} \left( x \left( \frac{ \left( \int_{-1}^{1} dx \right)}{ \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3} \right)}{2} \right) \right) } \right) \right) \right) \left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p)
$$
integrals don't suck
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HAHAHAH LOL
stupid bot load its not hard
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\left( \frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx}(x) - \cos^2(p) \tan^2(p) \right)
\left( \frac{\cos^2(p) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)}{\cos^2(p)} \right) }
{\frac{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{\frac{1 - \cos^2(p)}{
\left( \int_{\frac{d}{df} 0}^{\frac{d}{dt} t} \left( 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left(
\frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3} \right)}{ \left( \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left(
\frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^2}{ \frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left(
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\int_{-1}^{1} dt} \right) \right) \right) \right)} \right)} \right) \right) \right) dx
\right) - \left( \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \left( \cos^2(p) \left(
\frac{\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\tan^2(p)} \right) \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\cos^2(p)}
\right)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{\frac{ \left( \cos^2(p)
\tan^2(p) \right)}{\cos^2(p)}} \right) \right) \right) \left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right) \right) \right) \right) }
\right) \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right)
\frac{d}{dx} \left( x \left( \frac{ \left( \int_{-1}^{1} dx \right)}{
\frac{d}{dx} 2 \left( \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{ \frac{d}{dx} \left( \frac{x^3}{3}
\right)}{2} \right) \right) } \right) \right) \right)
\left( \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p) \right)
\left( \frac{\sin^2(p)}{1 - \sin^2(p)} \right) + \left( \frac{d}{dx} x \right) - \sin^2(p)
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ik
imagine the bot tryna render the torture equation
in set notation, is there a way to say A and B is mutually exclusive>
i js dont feel like writing allat
i want sumthing short like the A union B
integrals don't suck
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@foggy galleon it didn't even do the whole thing
ik bc it was so long discord wanted me to buy nitro to continue
ye the bot also didnt're nder the second part
oh btw here is some of the work: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/wzmxkruim2
ik
i also provided some of it in latex
oh nice
the math equation on 33% zoom
@strange solar
discord automaticly compressed it into a file XD
what is this
the equation on top
i mean what's the whole point of this burj khalifa-sized monstrosity of a formula
are you in a "who can make the most complicated formula in existence" competition
no im here so if any of you kids want mcdonalds, give them that and tell them to solve it for the mcdonal
and this, according to you, is peak comedy?
yes
how old are you again?
14
oh. expected, i guess...
not really in a position to tell others on here "you kids" then, are you, kid?
im 1 nanoseconds old (nah jk)
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anyways, thanks for another masterpiece @strange solar
what IS this? wheretf can i learn about this
How do I prove this like the problem for me is that I don't see any like powers or anything so I have no idea where to start
many of these trig identity proofs involve stuff like
difference of two squares / pythagorean trig identities
here consider multiply by (1+sin(theta))/(1+sin(theta))
in my brain
jk i made it with the help of @strange solar
its meaningless nonsensical garbage, there is nothing to learn
dont waste your time
yes, by the mile, i only made this for my fun
thx for telling him
I hate radicals😭🙏
which one better, degrees or radians
yo yk that equation you gave me where no matter the input of "p" its always 1
i made the same thing but different
the simplest one yet
Can anyone help me with this?
Apothem is distance from midpoint to midpoint of one of the sides. This thus splits the pentagon into a 5 congruent kites which can be split again into a total of 10 congruent right triangles with a base of 5.
I’m assuming you can use trigonometry so
The angle of angle adjacent to the base is 360/10 because 10 triangles
Depending on whether you are using degrees or radians I will just assume you are using degrees and if you aren’t multiply the degrees by pi/180 to get radians
sin(360/10) =something idk
5/(cos(360/10)) =hypotenuse
(5sin(360/10))/(cos(360/10))=opposite side aka half of side length
(25sin(360/10))/(2cos(360/10)) =area of one of the right triangle slice
25/2 x tan(360/10) simplification
25tan(360/10)=full triangle slice
125tan(360/10) full pentagon area
I could be wrong
But just to make sure
I’ll do some tests
Let me just try again
Something seems wrong
cos(180/5)=base
cah
cos=a/h
a=5
cos=5/h
1/cos=h/5
5/cos=h
5/cos(180/5) x sin(180/5) x 5 x 5
125/cos(180/5) x sin(180/5)
125tan(180/5)
Yeha it should work
Why do I feel like it’s now
Not
I guess it’s correct
Since the work is correct
p can be any value for the trig one
except 0, or 90 or -90
alr
ima test mine brb
mine can be any input besides 0
,calc sqrt(3.9 * 1.3)
Result:
2.2516660498395
yes that's correct
you need to set $\lambda (a + b)$ equal to $b + mu (-b + a)$
south
from which you should find lambda = mu = 1/2
@dense hollow
bro
send the translation of question
some parts are written in the language which I can't understand, it's maybe chinese or japanese or some other language
?
@dense hollow
just pay attention to the English part
the Chinese part says exactly the same thing
probably just angle-chase till you find all the angles in a triangle I bet
exterior angle theorem is a nice shortcut
i have no idea, but the topic is isosceles triangles
is it 180/7?
@dense hollow
@dense hollow
@dense hollow
@dense hollow
found it
?
180/7 degree
lambda and mu are just variables
okay so I've let the origin be in the bottom left corner
the red line is lambda(a + b)
the black line is b + mu(-b + a)
you need to travel vector b for the start of the black line, then the direction vector of the black line is -b + a
you're missing the fact that you can describe any point on a line with the direction vector of the line * scalar multiple
two vectors are parallel if they are scalar multiples of one another
say, 3i + 5j and 6i + 10j are parallel
okay then maybe it was just the variable names $\lambda, \mu$?
south
Vanellope von Schmugz
yeah I see okay okay
cool okay I think I don't need to explain anything more
that black vector doesn't start at the origin
you need to do position vector + direction vector
it's like y = 2x versus y = 2x + 3 or something
otherwise you're stuck with the vector through the origin all the time, see
DM me
can you teach me vector
@strange narwhal
kids will remember what will math do to them when they're older
What is trigonometry
Guys you know which topic is this? (I know it´s analytic geometry, but idk which topic specifically) It´s the only excercise I can´t solve about an.geom.
That´s from J. Stewart btw
That looks like algebra
Lobotomy Kaisen is the only way to learn now!
#lobotomykaisen #study #learning #maths #trigonometry
Thanks
Np
<@&286206848099549185>
Hello, does anybody know what will happen on a Trig Function Graph if the period is negitave?
the period cant be negative
so if you have something in mind youre gonna have to ask more descriptively
0_א
sine flips
what grade are yall in just wondering
,w plot y=sin(-5x)
beyond grades
idk what am I doing here in grade 9th
do u see the other channels?
u can take a look at #linear-algebra
how would i type this into the calc
33/tan 19
yeah
make sure you're in degree mode to have the same results
k thx
,calc 33/(19 * pi/180)
Result:
99.513722312196
tan x = x confirmed /j
This is actually pretty easy
so dtm
want a tut
is ts true?
well alpha = 90° and sin(90°) = 1, so...
yeah but i mean is it true for all angles
like if you have an angle inscribed into a unit circle like this and are looking at the chord that subtends it?
yeah
okay thanks
Yo anybody knows how to solve this : P
Are you sure you have to prove it?
Bcuz if you put x=45° it doesn't satisfy the condition
Yh that would make sense
You can notice that MBA1 and CBB1 are similar. So you express BB1 in terms of a which solves it all.
Try converting in the terms of tanx
please help
How do I find the measure of arc DE? The given part is the arc length of DE and the radius
You can use the formula
Arc length= 2pir (angle DQE/360)
That’s what I did and it turns out I typed it in the calculator wrong
And I got 490 degrees or something
Got it now though
Thanks
490 kinda sounds weird to me lol
it should sound weird cuz the arc doesn't even complete a 360 degree revolution xD
Maybe it completes 360 and then another 130 for the 490 degrees
I have no idea how to solve it so here is my blind attempt
10 inch radius
uhhhhhh
Degrees to radians is degree * pi/180
so radians to degree is radians * 180/pi
Makes sense
90*pi/180=pi/2
pi/2 * 180/pi =90
8.73 * (180/3.1415926535) =500.192
Oh dear
That isn’t right at all
Nope still the same
My autocorrect calculator works
Oh wait no I have to divide it by the radius
Taht why
I forgot teh radius existed
So
8.73/10 * 180/3.1415926535897932384 =50.0192
See makes much more sense
Arc = pid (diameter) and then multiply by angle
So divide it by pid
Arc/pid = angle
8.73/pi * 20 =55.577
But not since it’s over 360
So multiply it by 360???
Arc = pid(ang/360)
arc/pid = ang/360
360arc/pid = ang
(360 * 8.73)/pi * 20 =20,007.686
You know I feel like that’s slight wrong
Nevermind everything I said was wrong ignore it
hints for you on how to solve this yourself:
- what must the circumference be, for the full 360 degrees?
- great, so how many degrees would 1 in. of the circumference be, dividing both sides (in and degrees) by the same thing
- now multiply both sides by 8.73 and you're done!
search up 'unitary method' on YT if you don't understand
I didn't understand the question, like we have to find the measure of arc DE which is aldready given as 8.73 in.
no the measure of the arc is the angle
so that's angle DQE
radius times angle
!showwork
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
Uhhhh no
You need to find the fraction of the angle over 360 then multiply by radius
Probably
Ah well I’ll probably forget about this later
length of an arc right?
they’re asking for the angle DQE
Hey could someone just give me a hint on the C task?
(For some reason it changed T to train on the translated one)
Yes which means you can probably reverse it for angle
yea thats what im saying
given you know what $M_2 T$ is from question b
south
you just need $PU = PM_2 + M_2U = \left(a + \frac{b}{2} \right)+ 2 \cdot M_2 T$
then to show that two vector lines are parallel, you need to show that they are scalar multiples of each other
e.g 2a + 6b = 2(a + 3b), so 2a + 6b and a + 3b are parallel vectors
the scalar multiple is 2
south
A completely geometric equation for the area between two circles. No calculus or anything fancy, just pure algebra, geometry, and trigonometry. Check it out! https://www.desmos.com/calculator/aejqywu3l4
Let ABC be a triangle with ∠BAC = 70°, ∠ABC = 50°, and M be the midpoint of side AC. Let P and Q be points on lines BC and BA, respectively, such that the circle passing through P, M, B is tangent to BA and the circle passing through Q, M, B is tangent to BC. What is the measure of the angle ∠PQB?
(A) 60°
(B) 70°
(C) 80°
(D) 90°
(E) 100°
I think I got it.
In △ABC we are given that ∠A=70, ∠B=50, and ∠C=180-70-50=60
Here is one way to see it:
With M the midpoint of AC, the rays BM, BA and BC form certain angles. Denote ∠AMB = α, ∠CBM = β, with α+β=50°
The circle through B, M, and P is tangent to BA at B. By the tangent–chord theorem, the angle between the tangent and chord BM equals the inscribed angle in the alternate segment: ∠ABM=α=∠BPM.
Similarly, for the circle through B, M, and Q tangent to BC: ∠CBM=β=∠BQM
Coordinate Computation reveals that the position of P and Q are uniquely determined, hence ∠PQB=60.
- Place A = (0,0) and B = (sin60,0)
- With ∠A=70° and using the Law of Sines, C is approximately (0.262, 0.719).
- Then, the midpoint M of AC is approximately (0.131, 0.360).
Next, using the tangency condition (forces the center of the circle through B, M, and P to lie on the line perpendicular to BA at B), the circle meets line BC at a point P approximately equal to (-0.051,1.091).
Similarly, for the circle through B, M, and Q, tangent to BC (whose center lies on the line perpendicular to BC at B), the second intersection (Q) is approximately (-0.680,0).
Finally, computing the angle at Q in △PQB (using the dot–product formula) shows that ∠PQB=arccos(0.5)=60°
Therefore, the answer is A. (This may be wrong)
Also, I learned this in Mechanical Engineering: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ma0m9iyzat
Interesting, even though your arguments appear to be right, maybe there is an easier way to do this. I would think of that because this problem is from a quite easy olympiad, for younger people you know, i don't think they would expect anyone to understand law of sines, arccos...
Thank you for helping!
Yes, I checked the answer here and it is correct, the answer is indeed 60 degrees. Unfortunately this first phase doesn't show any explanations for the solutions
∂f/∂x
@autumn heron but basically sine rule gives $\frac{RY}{\sin(180 - 2 \theta)} = \frac{m}{\sin \theta}$
south
rearrange this to get RY = ...
and then compare this with what 4.3 tells you to see what's happening
guys is the angle of (2,1) makes with y axis the same angle that (2,-1) makes with y axis?
like one angle is the reflection of the other wrt x axis
dunno why it is so confusing
@obsidian harness Thank you 🙏
no worries!
yeah thats confusing
Yes, they make same angles. You can verify that by finding slopes and equating it to tan(alpha)
Can someone do this step by step. I’ve spend since this morning at 9 studying trig except this seems difficult to me
apply pythag
I’ll try that
how do i do this question
What do I do now
Expand out all the squared terms and see if anything cancels nicely
@muted sail
Grand
Is there anything I can do here
it should be (x^2 + 8x + 16) = (x^2 - 8x + 16) + (x^2 - 10x + 25)
and also u can/should be able to do each of those expansions in one step since they are simply squares but it’s fine.
do u have any ideas how to continue?
I’ll change up what you said with this first
I don’t know how to continue adter
After*
simplify and solve the quadratic
What do you mean by that
which part of the instructions don't you understand
How do you simplify it
Can I take away the brackets then
Squaring?
Where do I square it than
you already did
assuming you've corrected the above errors,
you can safely remove those () and combine / simplify as i've instructed
Now bring everything to the left-hand side, making it = 0
And then simplify like terms
<@&286206848099549185>
does heron's formula help at all here
formula for the area of a triangle in terms of its sides
Thanks
this system seems underdefined🤔
Someone help
evaluate each value as it is and then rationalise the denominator, see if that works
good luck soldier
😭
any ideas?
do you have work shown or anything yet?
try starting with the triangles area and then the small portions of the circles inside the triangle
not sure but maybe finding the area of the whole triangle and then finding the area of the arc and then multiply by 3 and then subtract that from the whole triangle
can anyone teach me about coordinate geometry of a circle
Why don't you use your textbook and YT?
its not effective for me because i cant ask what i dont know
how do i know when do i need to find the midpoint, when do i need to find a gradient , when do i need to do completing the square bro
sanity is going insane bro
i mean, the problem will usually tell you what it wants you to do?
if it wants you to find the midpoint of something then it'll say it wants the midpoint of something
i dont even know what the question mean
idk what method to use it to find the coordinate
well send the question here.
we can't tell you what to do or how to do it without seeing what needs to be done.
The line x+2y = 10 intersections the circle (x-2)62 + (y+1+^2 = 25 at the points a and b.
a) find the coordinates of the points a and b.
b) the perperndicular bisector of ab intersects the circle at the points p and q. find the exact coordinates of p and q.
i know how to do a but idk what b meanas
probably capital P and Q, but ok.
so, have you seen the word "perpendicular bisector" before?
no
(also typo? presumably your circle is (x-2)^2 + (y+1)^2 = 25?)
so really that is what you were missing, rather than anything specific to circles.
the perpendicular bisector of a line segment is the straight line that is perpendicular to that line segment and goes thru its midpoint.
does that definition make sense to you?
(try not to take it as an instruction)
yes
yeah ok
taking into account the whole circle thing you've got here, there's also a shortcut you can take.
a little trick to save yourself some effort
that the perp bisector of a chord in a circle will pass thru the circle's center. (and so you don't actually have to calculate the midpoint of AB here)
easier would be two assemble these 4 triangles into a square (there is atleast one set of 4 triangles in which you can do this)
how do you know they assemble into a square in the first place
there is one set which do assemble into a square
not all sets, but one set does
ok but we can't just assume ex nihilo that these particular triangles do
true
but if the question has a unique answer, then the answer would be correct even in the case of the triangles forming a square
since the radius of each circle is 6 inches, each side of the triangle is 12 inches, and it must be an equilateral triangle, so you can find out the area of the triangle which is 62.352 inches. Now, since its an equilateral triangle each angle of the triangle is 60 degrees, so it makes a 60 degree angle at the centre of each circle, find out the area of that 60 degree sector in the circles which is 3*(3.14 x 36)/6 (multiply it by 3 to find out the area of all 3 sectors together) and the area would be 56.52 inches. Subtract 56.52 from 62.352 and you will get 5.832 inches as your answer
Finally did a Hypercube in Desmos that has a full rotation of a₀ and b₀
its like everytime i think i already learnt all the stuff, and then i mvoe on to the question, i blurred
sorry, i didn't see this and got busy.
you find the equation of the diameter of your circle that's perpendicular to line AB.
or the same line by any other name.
and then you find its intersections with the circle by the exact same process as in part a, which you said you had no issue with
seems like too little information
I’ve got an investigation and that’s the on information we’re allowed
I don't understand what you need to do for your investigation
Basically we loosely take measurements to find the height of the top of a building to the bottom
And we’re only allowed those measurements
Is the information there enough?
did they provide a base diagram for you
Nope
What would the exact answer be?
5.832 is the closest you can get because you have to take the approximate values of Pi and Root 3 which are both irrational numbers
what should I do if I encounter a integral of 1/x³+1
Factor the denominator using sum of cubes, then partial fractions.
then trig integration?
Yeah for the $\int \frac{1}{x^2-x+1} \dd{x}$ part
Civil Service Pigeon
I see the (x+1) got cancelled
What?
No I just didn’t talk about that part because it’s not relevant to trig
u shouldn’t give full solutions
oh should i not ? im new out here
i just explained the whole thing to him since no one helped him
As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.
alr thanks for letting me know
,rccw
@severe sandal you know what a plane of symmetry looks like, right?
Kinda
Why isn’t 2b 3
If I cut it diagonal
It kinda works
hmm
what do you mean by "cut diagonal"
actually i don't see where you are getting 3 planes at all
i can only see one: the one parallel to the triangular bases and halfway between them
I MEANT LIKE cutting it in the way of an x but I looked closely and it doesn’t work
But only one of the lines from the x
On the rectangle part
Is this correct
The cuboid isn’t right
the cuboid is indeed not right
But it u turn it after it could be
what
Is the one on top correct
how would i apply pythagoras theorem
you can draw a supplementary line splitting the triangle
and making a perpendicular line from the top to the middle of the line segement below
i'm not sure if that's clear sorry
but yeah if you have the height of the triangle and the base value you can find the hypotenuse of the split up triangles
yup yup yup
thank you
your welcome!
Let ABC be a right isosceles triangle with ∠CAB = 90°. Let P be a point on line BC, with B between C and P, and Q a point on line AB, with A between B and Q, such that BP = AQ. Let R be a point on line AC, with C between A and R, such that ∠PQR = 45°. If the measure of angle ∠PRQ is m/n degrees, where m and n are positive integers that are coprime, determine the value of m + n.
the cosine rule is a great way to start in this one!
Hey guys
Why are the bisectors of two intersecting lines perpendicular
,w define bisector
Hii
i need help guys
do you still need help with this?
yeaa
have you made a diagram?
Yes, I drew everything. I actually got a lot of progress in the question, but after finding only the quadrilateral of the beams, I was frankly confused
one minute
I know it's quite complicated but maybe someone can figure it out
oh god this is worse than i thought
its okay
Because I'm working on Olympiad questions
oh that explains it 💀'
Hello, could someone help me calculate area?
The radius is 4 cm
The coloring might be a bit off
But I only need approx
I need the area of the colored area
The area of one circle is 16Pi
where tf did a circle come from
I kind of need help with this.
step 1: draw what we know
did you at least draw the situation of point A yet?
im sorry but wth is that T-T
@simple sphinx
hi, I need some help with some math questions. They are in Spanish, I hope it won't be a problem ❤️
got 46, but I don’t think this is the right answer, due to M should be the incenter of ABC and i don’t believe in this
Please show the original problem, exactly as it was stated to you, with the entire original context. A picture or screenshot is best. If the original problem is not in English, then post it anyway! The additional context might still be helpful. Do your best to provide a translation.
turkish spotted
Does anyone know a website with COMPLEX AND HARD questions for algebra and trig for year 10 maths and above (not university level)
MadAsMaths Mathematics Archive
if you really want hard however, search up JEE questionbanks
then you'll suffer
!status
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
Can someone help and explain this to me?
This is a new unit I am doing in math and I don’t understand it
isnt ab here equal to dc?
please help
use the fact that 4cos²x-1=sin(3x)/sin(x) and 243*3 mod 360 = 9.
Yes
I accidentally made a formula on Desmos to calculate the location of the nth point of any root of unity I think
Except this is not in a unit circle
You need to modify iy slightly to get anything useful
should be
Yeah probably unless it’s not to scale
bruh, Khan Academy and org chem tutor on YT
yall how do thetas work? i learned about them in class like 5 months ago but didnt pay attention
theta is a variable, usually representing an angle
Thanks
Help
,rccw
@uncut crest do you still need help with this?
This is in my daughter's A Levels book, it seems to me they're using the equality $\sqrt{cos^2{2\theta}}=cos{2\theta}$ (which is incorrect) to get to $\frac{sin{2\theta}}{cos{2\theta}}$.
ian
And the simplification they give is clearly wrong:
It isn't even the first place the book does this, is the book wrong, or is there some strange difference in notation in the UK? Or am I just missing something daft?
A levels doesn't cover nuances like this
should of course be $\frac{\sin 2 \theta}{| \cos 2 \theta |}$
south
Ahh, thanks, that would explain it. Seems like they are setting kids up for pain in university though! 😄
yeah the textbook authors should have just put a $0 \le \theta \le \pi/2$ in there
south
this laziness only reinforces misconceptions, I agree
yeah
Dawg yk how A level ppl prove a 1 to one function
Legit just horizontal line test
If it only intersects once it is one-to-one💀
fair enough
A level isn't supposed to be rigorous anyways
so they wouldn't actually need to prove it
I thought it was for like pre university though
they'd just need to observe
pre-university isn't supposed to be rigorous in general
JEE isn't rigorous, it's just spamming a bunch of concepts to crack the question, and so is JEE adv
U take jee?
no
and I'm not Indian
If you ask an a level student here in Singapore
like in JEE you just observe right?
well very very few people take H3 maths in Singapore
spamming is funny
They probably wouldn’t know what the limit definition is
H2
H3 ppl are ok
yeah that is true, that does tend to get taught more in US calculus classes
well they want you to focus on computation and intuition
rather than formally justifying everything with respect to some given axioms, which is where rigour comes in
please help me
SSOMEONE
PLEASE
my grade depends on it and its already not lookin to good
halp
please
i need halp
😭
30 60 45 90 angles have specific values for trigonometric functions
Example sin 30 = 1/2 same goes for the others
you're the best to know that
sorry i was asleep. but the idea is you should make a better diagram and put some extra stuff on it like this
A-levels does, this looks like (I)GCSE stuff.
oh no huh it is a-levels
Finding BQ and QC rely on basic right angled trig: you should apply the trig ratio definition, sub in, and solve
The key thing is that BQ = AP
So apply right angled trig again to find DP, where you now know the height and both bases
if sin=opp/hyp then what is arcsin
'arcsin' is the inverse function of 'sin'
arcsin is the function that answers the question of "what angle gives a sine ratio equal to this number?"
define "do"?
solve
do you mean calculate
sech and csch are defined as 1/cosh(x) and 1/sinh(x)
so just same concept?
by analogy with their circular equivalents
also how to convert the law of cosines (the one like a^2+b^2-abcos(c) where a and b are sides of a triangle and c is the angle between them) into hyperbolic geo
uhh
ive been stuck on that since grade 5
9
why would you even be studying hyperbolic geometry in school
no im studying it in my freetime
iirc the hyperbolic law of cosines looks like
cosh(c) = cosh(a)cosh(b) - sinh(a)sinh(b)cos(C)
but don't quote me on that
oh ok thx
it is quite strange you would be studying even the Euclidean cosine law back in grade 5
sounds way too early
no i did it back in my free time
unless you are like insanely ahead of the curve
when i was grade 5 i was a gifted kid
ok so then you are
bruh i tried to learn tensors in grade 6 i thought it was just grade 7
was i really that overkill?
i would say kinda yes
bruh
tensors though...
