@brazen charm Thanks for the idea for the regex.
#dev-contrib
empty sluice
mellow hare
I forgot how beautiful his voice is. Especially when he's talking about punching
hardy gorge
ELA moved on
short snow
oh sad
just one thing, i don't understand why they movre on, if they get this excellent oppurtunity to mod this gr8 server
green oriole
Will ELA still manage flake8-annotations?
hardy gorge
Yes, he will; we've transferred the ownership to his personal GitHub account.
patent pivot
I mean, moderating this server is great but ultimately it's voluntary and it's a lot of work. Staff members come and go as life goes on
rapid swallow
honestly I've never seen ELA conversing other than to hand out mutes or bans or a verbal warning at the least
are you guys still working on @ everyone?
rapid swallow
yeah but it mutes members who use it in a codeblock too
hardy gorge
We're currently in the process of writing the fix; it's not super high priority, but it'll get done soon
We want some unittests so we're sure the code catches things like edge cases and stuff
rapid swallow
here's a noob's take
if @ everyone is present in the message,
count the number of ` before the word, if odd number of backticks are present, @ everyone is in a codeblock. backslashbacktick should not be counted though
idk whether the counting ` part is really a good approach, but just a thought
like checking whether ` @ everyone ` is in the message was my first noob thought but people coould do codeblockstuff@ everyonecodeblockstuff
whcih is `codeblockstuff`@ everyone`codeblockstuff`
hardy gorge
That doesn't really work well, though
````this is inside a code block with with an even number of ticks before it```
rapid swallow
yeah \ backticks shouldn't count
hardy gorge
There are no backslashes
hardy gorge
Just four opening backticks, text, three closing backticks
rapid swallow
ok so new approach
hire a guy on Fiverr who decides whether the message is valid
he/she has to manually read all messages with @ everyone and see if it is pingable kind
.
/s
maybe some kind of parsing through of messages with @ everyone and using a stack to keep track of whether it is in a codeblock
haven't really thought this one out (four backtick)
green mesa
my one pr is waiting for code review by team ,can i choose another issue to work on or should i wait for pr to get merged first?
green oriole
My personal advice as a contributor would be to wait for the reviews, because when you have reviews from multiple PRs coming at the first time, that can be quite overwhelming
Although I don't think the staff minds that
green mesa
ok akarys i will take your advice 😄 hopefully i will get my review done fast
cant wait for the review
i am very excited to get my review done
clever wraith
curious. i notice @stable mountain has a lot of log.traces.. how you you read those? log to a file? seems like that would be a lot to read on a console, seeing as you'd also get all the d.py trace messages
patent pivot
we disable log.trace in production
it's more for local development
in production we only log INFO or above
brazen charm
below
brazen charm
Discord and some other libraries have their logs set to higher levels
clever wraith
but it uses debugs?
oh ok
i meant above as in INFO > WARN > TRACE > DEBUG https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/751601865476800523 here
short snow
https://github.com/python-discord/seasonalbot/issues/238i wanna give this a shot
can i?
ah it is already taken
sad
green oriole
I've noticed in the snekbox config that you don't have a file descriptor limit (RLIMIT_NOFILE), that could be pretty bad if some users start spamming open functions (or worst the c implementation), as it will slow down the whole kernel, and so the whole stack
short snow
@hardy gorge for the !tags can i put something like this: ```py
== # equal values
!= # not equal
# left operand is greater than right operand
< # left operand is less than right operand
= # left operand is greater than or equal to right operand
<= # left operand is less than or equal to right operand
<element> is <element> # check if two operands refer to same object in memory```
green oriole
Is that really a tag you would use though?
short snow
i just gave a example
https://github.com/Shivansh-007/Python-CheatSheet here i have a cheatsheat so i could just copy paste them, just with more details
hardy gorge
We can't just copy someone else's work, though
green mesa
I think how to debug or read documentation tag we need
As most of the beginner don't know how to read documentation
short snow
We can't just copy someone else's work, though
@hardy gorge it is a cheatsheet made it along with other ppl of my udemy course
i am working on a errors and exceptions one also
green oriole
I have to say, that's a pretty nice cheatsheet
short snow
it is udemy course from where i learned, we all devs about 1k ppl have contributed to that
sharp timber
equal == equal
not != equal
bigger > smaller
smaller < bigger
bigger >= bigger or bigger > smaller
bigger <= bigger or smaller < bigger
This exactly is This exactly
this exactly is not This exactly
??
what you saying?
oh
got it
do you want to add a tag on this
and all errors and exceptions
sharp timber
Mostly offering an idea
brazen charm
I don't think explaining every part of python is a particularly fitting use for tags
Exceptions have whole tutorial and doc pages for them, where they are explained in more detail than is feasible in a tag
short snow
it is kinda a nice to have them
nah, one tag for one exception could something like that
one tag for each error
green oriole
I personally really don't see how you'd use this tag in a conversation
green mesa
can we have tag for decorators?
short snow
we already have one i guess
if any tag is needed let me know, i would be happy to create them
green mesa
this issue have been done? or i can work on this
https://github.com/python-discord/seasonalbot/issues/414
empty sluice
Is .spookygif broken on SeasonalBot?
green mesa
i think so cuz when wookie also tried that didnt worked
timid sentinel
I'd guessed you would
gusty sonnet
Hmm I cant seem to find PR 430 via my VSCode, anyone having the same issue?
Github desktop can see it, weird
gusty sonnet
@green mesa I've reviewed the PR and requested some small changes, if you want to discuss the design of the command we can also do it here as well
nocturne ivy
Not sure where to ask, please let me know if I should ask elsewhere -> Newbie question : is https://github.com/python-discord/snekbox integrated to this Discord or is it something we need to setup by ourselves ? If integrated how can we use it for sandbox / testing ? (If not easy to answer please could you just point me to the right direction ?)
sullen phoenix
snekbox is used by our !eval command. it's mainly used to show examples of running code
!e
print('Hello, world!')
stable mountainBOT
@sullen phoenix :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, world!
!e print('hello world')
stable mountainBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
nocturne ivy
thank you @sullen phoenix 🙂
sullen phoenix
no problem!
green oriole
@nocturne ivy if you are curious about how it is actually setup, snekbox exposes a web api that the bot uses
nocturne ivy
I'm curious about an ocean of things and just trying to not drown in it for now huhu but will definitely check this later - thank you very much 🙂
@green oriole thank you
sullen phoenix
yeah, there's a little diagram here
nocturne ivy
yeah I've read this, seems excellent for what I need but would require me to already know what I need to learn to use it ^^
short snow
== # equal values
!= # not equal
> # left operand is greater than right operand
< # left operand is less than right operand
>= # left operand is greater than or equal to right operand
<= # left operand is less than or equal to right operand
<element> is <element> # check if two operands refer to same object in memory``` this is much needed i got to use it 3 times in 24 hrs lol
thorn vine
Which is the easist file to test?
green mesa
@thorn vine didn't get u can u elaborate
thorn vine
nvm
neon phoenix
@short snow be aware that the tags' contents are simply embed descriptions
neon phoenix
You can, but we need to work around
Like idk, parse the MD file and check for image links
short snow
hmmm, okh
Like idk, parse the MD file and check for image links
@neon phoenix what do you mean by parse the MD file and check for image links?
neon phoenix
say that in our markdown, a list between there symbols (< >) is an image link
we could use regex to check if those symbols actually exist and then check if they match
if so, we could extract the link, and place it on discord.Embed.set_image
short snow
say that in our markdown, a list between there symbols (< >) is an image link
@neon phoenix yah i got that,
nvm i will create thing in text
green mesa
sorry for dumb question but in seasonal bot from where it sends exception
i arent able to find from where its sending error
gusty sonnet
What do you mean by that
green mesa
actually the problem is i am trying to stop spam by adding cooldown but its raising two error - value error and cooldown error
when i try .wiki command twice
i wnt to raise only cooldown error when someone try to spam
command
not value error but both are getting triggered
green mesa
@gusty sonnet
gusty sonnet
I suggest adding an error handler / a check for the command in that case
The on_command_error for seasonal bot can be seen here - https://github.com/python-discord/seasonalbot/blob/da468c51502c88c00687e2869f05a1a46c715e45/bot/bot.py#L68
green mesa
yeh i seen and added
gusty sonnet
You can of course create a listener to that event as well
green mesa
but same error
green mesa
in error handler
await ctx.send("Thats not a valid response")
return
in exisiting error handler i added this
gusty sonnet
Can you post your traceback as well
green mesa
actually i am not getting any error
but both are getting triggered
value error and cooldown
whenever i try to invoke same command twice
gusty sonnet
Hmm, try commenting the error handler and see what traceback you got
I have to go now, but I'm sure someone will be able to help as well, otherwise I'll be back in about 4h
green mesa
gusty sonnet
But yes, try to identify what errors are being raised and where, the 1st one is from cooldown for sure, but the 2nd one is from your previous command trying to parse it as an int
This one is inside your except
green mesa
is there a way to know same command is used twice or not?
this is what i am getting when i commented error handler
09/06/20 14:57:30 - root DEBUG: Error Encountered: ValueError - invalid literal for int() with base 10: '.wiki av', Command: wikipedia, Author: Anubhav#3355,
Channel: seasonalbot-commands```both error at once
gusty sonnet
Yes it will happen for your 2nd command
The 2nd command will raise a cooldown error
The 1st command that is still waiting on the wait_for will raise the valueerror
crude gyro
hm, this looks weird cause the eyes look evil so it's like an evil tongue smiley
crude gyro
also I wish we could use @thorny obsidian's symmetrical beard for these future ones. When is that production ready?
green oriole
Nothing is symmetrical actually
crude gyro
I can see that 
green oriole
If you look at the guide, it isn't centered anywhere
crude gyro
anyway I don't hate it. And at a small size I bet it'll look great.
thorny obsidian
I can get the symmetrical beard base to y'all today.
obsidian patio
Maybe we should just have a symmetrical-base-lemon that’s just the actual base — with the symmetry
green oriole
already act as a base tbh
crude gyro
yes, I'd love to see a PR from you @thorny obsidian that just included a nice and symmetrical base. Using as a base is not necessary, we could just have a face-and-mouthless base.
and if someone is very bored some day they can go through the existing ones and rerender them all with the new base after we merge it.
thorny obsidian
I'm already 5 deep into the existing ones for updating them
obsidian patio
@crude gyro Ehmm !ot a unsymmetrical lemon beard
green oriole
I have another one @crude gyro, but I'm not really sure about it
Especially for the mouth, I dunno
green oriole
Less fat like that?
Yeah, the eyebrow makes it a bit evil yeah
It is based on 🤨
Maybe it isn't rotated enough
obsidian patio
Hmmm. Maybe... maybe it’d be better to use the unmodified face from the twemoji? Not sure (on iOS rn, so can’t see how the twemoji looks)
green oriole
More rotated
obsidian patio
May look a little less evil now. Try rotating the left eyebrow counter clockwise a little. Evilness appears when the eye is rotated to the center of the face
green mesa
never got this
The file will have its original line endings in your working directory```@green mesa that's normal
green oriole
Like that @obsidian patio ?
thorny obsidian
@green oriole what program are you using?
obsidian patio
Looks a lot more kind now. Maybe somewhere in between the two last options would be optimal, so it’s just a little more evil-ish
green oriole
I like this
molten bough
inkscape is nowhere near as user friendly as it should be tbh
green oriole
So far it pretty much is
molten bough
having used inkscape and affinity designer
inkscape is so hard to use in comparison
green oriole
But inkscape is on linux
molten bough
realistically linux is the wrong OS for multimedia work haha
thorny obsidian
Okay, PR created
molten bough
looking great though either way
green oriole
Sshh haha
thorny obsidian
Not sure if I should create 1 pull request for all the updates to the existing emojis for the new base or if I should create 1 per? I'm not sure which one would be easier to review for y'all although I am leaning towards the first option.
green oriole
Nah, you should all update them in one PR IMO
You can even do it in your current PR
thorny obsidian
Okay cool cool cool. I wonder if I can get all of them done tomorrow....
empty sluice
@thorny obsidian Can you add what the templates look like to your PR?
thorny obsidian
@empty sluice done!
green oriole
While we are waiting for the lemon king, I quickly remade 
with and 
glasses
thorny obsidian
@green oriole Are those glasses from the twemoji asset pack? The accents on the glasses seem out of place for the overall design on the twemojis.
green oriole
Nope, that's glasses
thorny obsidian
Huh, I wonder where they're from then.
green mesa
green oriole
You don't really see the accents when it is used as an emoji
thorny obsidian
Yeah, it just seems out of place asset-wise
empty sluice
@thorny obsidian Are you going to use a separate PR for your redrawing of the lemojis?
thorny obsidian
Ah, all of the odd ones I've been struggling with are made in the same PR. I'm just curious if that asset was made from scratch or if it was taken from somewhere else and the licensing should be updated.
I'm going to make a separate PR for the updates of the existing lemojis
Currently drafting it
cold moon
Should I make lemoji based on 😷 ?
thorny obsidian
Oh no. I think my new commit automatically went to the PR I opened.
gusty sonnet
Oh dear, I found myself lost in the lemoji land
obsidian patio
The cutoff hair and "blue thing" looks a bit odd to me. Maybe make the box around the lemoji wider
crude gyro
@green oriole okay quick bit of feedback.
- I like the party one, but the crop is weird. Should either be closer or a tiny bit more zoomed out. You could also try adjusting the rotation of the entire lemoji to better fit the relevant stuff.
- I think you're on to something the eyebrows one but it just doesn't seem to have the right amount of emotion. Probably just an eyebrow placement thing?
- I don't like the sunglasses at all. Maybe try the twemoji ones instead? The highlight on them looks super out of place. The mouth is perfect, though.
- The unamused one has weird teeth, almost like a baby. Other than that it looks good.
don't be afraid to rotate any of these. We don't have to have every lemoji rotated perfectly at 45 degrees, in fact, I think that's a bit boring
green oriole
Okay
crude gyro
but you're quite close on, like, all of these. and nice work!
green oriole
Okay
crude gyro
besides, everyone knows square sunglasses are way cooler
green oriole
Lol yes
obsidian patio
don't be afraid to rotate any of these. We don't have to have every lemoji rotated perfectly at 45 degrees, in fact, I think that's a bit boring
obsidian patio
Way better. Just misses a symmetrical beard
obsidian patio
Prefer? That may be a step above I don't hate it hahha
green oriole
This color, or the original?
crude gyro
but something just a tad softer
that looks about right
the other one was too black
this one is pretty good.
crude gyro
gotta run, be back later
green oriole
o/
green oriole
I tried to change the mouth, I think it fits the expression more
Re-did the mouth on this one, what that the issue?
cold moon
So much lemojis... How much slots of emojis is left?
green oriole
too many, we have tier 3
cold moon
But I have seen a lot of fallbacks to tier 2
green oriole
You have a week or so to go back to tier 3 before every feature is lowered again
At worst we'd lost a few emojis for a couple of days
crude gyro
we have plenty of slots.
@green oriole the party one has a weird mouth. looks like it's inhaling instead of exhaling. most if the ones I've seen have like a ducky mouth.
the unamused one still has really weird teeth. they just don't fit the mouth.
the surprised one looks better like that I think.
brazen charm
it should be in the branding repo
or easily made from there since I believe they're all svgs
green oriole
Okay I see
thorny obsidian
The lemon base is just from the twemoji pack, which is linked in the licensing in the README. I also have a PR there that has a lemoji template
green oriole
The last one is a remake of 
, that's why the mouth is like that
short snow
The lemon base is just from the twemoji pack, which is linked in the licensing in the README. I also have a PR there that has a lemoji template
@thorny obsidian can you put it here, i have some fun emoji ideas
thorny obsidian
You can pull it from the PR, since it should link back to my forked+branched repo.
short snow
in which editor do you make these?
crude gyro
The last one is a remake of
@green oriole
when I made that, I just took 
and rotated the mouth 180 degrees. please don't feel attached to these shitty old emojis, instead of remaking, make a better one. the teeth are weird.
short snow
in which editor do you make these?
@crude gyro
crude gyro
I use illustrator
short snow
online or app?
short snow
okh,
thorny obsidian
I typically use Illustrator, but I'm also trialing Affinity designer with these emojis
green mesa
@gusty sonnet with while loop what should I check, I think notifying user to try again will be good or u wnt while loop only 😅
patent pivot
Affinity Designer!
short snow
just for finding that emoji, pls ignore this
short snow
where do you get these assets, the specs, maginfying glass, tongue, etc.
thorny obsidian
It's part of the twemoji pack. It's linked in the licensing section in the branding README
I think some are just created from scratch though
short snow
ok
shut aspen
is there an easy way to run snekbox without docker
tawdry vapor
Install nsjail and make sure its on your PATH. Then pipenv sync and pipenv run snekbox
short snow
@green oriole how do you cut some part of a emoji and paste it to other in inkscape
green mesa
Hmmm
I think itni change its ice structure to heart it will look nice
Ahh we have already 😅
short snow
ice structure?
short snow
should i make it a star?
green mesa
Yeh u can try it
short snow
i personally like heart better btw
green mesa
We have 100 slots for emoji UwU
short snow
woah
@crude gyro yo, sorry for the ping, how is it?
(my first try on inkscape and pixl)
crude gyro
@short snow I'm not sure what you made but it didn't seem to work.
green oriole
@green oriolehow do you cut some part of a emoji and paste it to other in inkscape
@short snow copy-paste, and if the path is in a bigger shape, use the path tool, select the path, go to path>split shape, and copy-paste
green oriole
You should try a holding a yes sign
short snow
on this emoji : ?
green oriole
Yeah
short snow
okh, lemme give it a try (hopefully it comes gud)
should i straighten it or like tilted only
green oriole
Also don't forget that the emojis are squares
green mesa
U can make lemoji which is siping lemonade😅
short snow
oh ya, lemme try that afterwards, maybe tomorrow, have exams on
cedar lotus
Hi, I saw a PR for a wiki command on the seasonal bot. I was wondering if this would filter out any potentially profane, or NSFW searches from showing in the output.
brazen charm
Probably best to ask in the pr or look through it. The issue has been raised here but I don't know if it was taken into account in the currently proposed implementation
cedar lotus
Oh my bad, I took a look but I couldn't really see anything unless I missed it, so thought to ask here.
green mesa
Nope wiki command doesn't have any filter yet😅
Currently it raises error if u give negative index, proceed indexing range or if u try to spam command
cedar lotus
I see, I just felt that there will be some possibly controversial results returned. For example, certain words which are banned here in this server if searched on wiki would result in an article being shown. I've not seen the wiki API but if it gives you a category the article is from, or if it is potentially sensitive then you could probably filter it.
green mesa
I can filter words but I don't thing anybody will try to search such words unless they wnt to get ban knowingly
green oriole
I mean, some funny trolly could try like to search for the n-word, or some nsfw stuff, it’d show the image
green mesa
subtle kraken
Just because people would get banned for doing so, doesn't mean bot should even show it to begin with
green oriole
Even if people would get banned, people still do it
brazen charm
There are a lot of things on wiki that don't belong here, enabling access to them isn't that great
green mesa
Hmmm
cedar lotus
From my experience such commands only are executed in nswf channels. Well that's what I've been required to do in past when submitting bots.
green oriole
We already have a list of banned words on @stable mountain
I wonder if we can pull it from seasonal
green mesa
In seasonal bot?
I can copy that and add that in seasonal bot also
Along with my next commit
cedar lotus
You could have a dictionary approach however the list would be pretty large for wiki don't you think?
For example does your list contain a list of all controversial organisational groups out there.
green oriole
It is on the database iirc, you can’t copy it
green mesa
Ooo
green oriole
My thoughts were to scan the whole article for the list of banned words
But wikipedia does have categories
I wonder if there’s a nsfw one
green mesa
¯_(ツ)_/¯
But for ban words on server we need to use db only
Can we access the db of pybot through seasonal bot?
brazen charm
I don't think seasonal is really intended to access the api
green mesa
Hmm ok
crude gyro
this sounds like overengineering to me.
if someone uses a wordfiltered word with the wiki command, all the mods will be pinged and we will deal with it. I don't think we need to start building additional layers of word filtering into every feature.
brazen charm
Don't think the word filter is worth bringing over, but there are a lot of keywords that won't trigger it and lead to explicit pages
green mesa
.issue 404
dusky shoreBOT
molten bough
wikipedia does contain some level of content some people may consider offensive - in particular I expect some topics related to human biology, which do contain images
wikipedia doesn't tag these things and is extremely proud that it doesn't do so
brazen charm
It makes sense in an educational context, but not so much here
rapid swallow
are you sure the wikipedia doesn't tag such things?
perhaps then the API could know whether a certain thing is inappropriate
seems useful
crude gyro
okay, that's a more valid observation. Still, there's nothing stopping those users from just linking those pages themselves from wiki right now, and we'd be in the exact same situation. In both cases, I'm fairly certain the community would report this to us through modmail or by pinging the mods, and we'd moderate accordingly.
green mesa
sorry for same question again 😅 i also wnt to set icon like dependable bot
so i wnt when my test fail it open pr with icon
how can i do so
main problem is icon
and i also wnt to know how to add tags automatically like pybot
if you guys can provide some links then it will be great 🙂
i wnt to know how pybot name and icon goes there
gusty sonnet
The icon is via giving the author an icon_url iirc
green mesa
i wnt to know how py bot comment
gusty sonnet
For the hypertext link, it is only possible in field value / title / description, and you can easily do it via the markdownpy [text](link)
What you are seeing is actually github sending information via discord webhook, and the data is formatted in a rich embed way
Or did you mean you want a github bot instead
green mesa
hmmm how it invoked through github action?
patent pivot
when something happens on GitHub a webhook payload it sent to the app which then processes it and if necessary calls the API
so like when a PR review is added it calculates how many reviews remaining are required
green mesa
oooo
green mesa
one more question how app know what to send
like when someone make pull request first thank the person in pr then add lables
green oriole
Hey @crude gyro, I scaled down the mouth to fit more the twemoji, is that better?
short snow
noice
obsidian patio
The mouth is almost invisible now. The most important part is probably making sure that you fit the entire emoji, though
green oriole
Hmm I'm not sure
short snow
earlier was better
obsidian patio
Feel free to change the size of the canvas size slightly as well
green oriole
I mean, it has to stay a square
obsidian patio
Why would it?
crude gyro
you need those inflated cheeks, @green oriole
🥳
sure the mouth is fine now, but without the cheeks all blown up it looks weird.
obsidian patio
Why can’t Apple just use Twemoji...
green oriole
Anyway, I don't think I'd be able to edit this one and the one until this weekend, but I'll open a PR for the rest of the lemojis
Why can’t Apple just use Twemoji...
@obsidian patio hint: the answer is in the question
obsidian patio
Hey, that’s mean😂😂
rapid swallow
is this a bug or did the user mess with it weird username and no pfp
nvm, dude had no pfp
patent pivot
one more question how app know what to send
like when someone make pull request first thank the person in pr then add lables
@green mesa well github sends all events and I just have logic like "if a PR is opened and the user has not contributed before then send the welcome message"
I believe iOS emoji is due to licensing/app store guidelines, though I'm not entirely sure
green mesa
one more question how app know what to send
like when someone make pull request first thank the person in pr then add lables
@Anubhav well github sends all events and I just have logic like "if a PR is opened and the user has not contributed before then send the welcome message"
I wnt to know you have code logic written in GitHub action😅
patent pivot
I mean GitHub has API docs at https://developers.GitHub.com/
We do no storage of anything, we just take in GitHub events with webhooks and emit events with that API
GitHub tells us if it's the users first time contributing
and it tells us how many reviews a PR has and how many it needs
And we just apply the labels based on that
eternal owl
what are yall thoughts on adding an auto-formatter, like black with isort for our projects?
sullen phoenix
iirc, we don’t want auto formatting
it’s good to manually format your code. it makes you format code consistently and well like it’s your second nature
green mesa
Wow didn't knew that this also exists
sullen phoenix
that is, if you have a linter screaming at you
eternal owl
okay, fair enough
short snow
i need to extract some part from a png to create a emoji how can i accomplish this?
hardy gorge
.wa 70c in f
dusky shoreBOT
hardy gorge
should work now
short snow
what is wolfram apla?
hardy gorge
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.wa short Christiaan Huygens
dusky shoreBOT
short snow
need ideas for lemon emojis,
i made a few which are already made so i got a nice learning
no need ideas to create few
dusky shoreBOT
green oriole
.issue 61 branding
dusky shoreBOT
green oriole
^ @crude gyro i've opened a PR for the first 3 lemojis!
crude gyro
I think the tongue and the swag ones are great
the raised eyebrow looks okay but I think the -45 degree rotation hurts its legibility.
I would rotate it a little bit more towards the center
it's okay if some of the lemon is outside the crop
similar to 
, although maybe not that zoomed in.
@green oriole
crude gyro
haha, okay
green oriole
-14° to be precise
short snow
need comments
crude gyro
well it's better but a little too zoomed in and maybe not quite rotated enough, try like 18 or something
@short snow maybe post a png if you want opinions
short snow
ok give me a minute
here
need to make it symmetrical right?
and change the eyes to 😋 ?
crude gyro
probably.
short snow
or the one in that 😋 emoji
green oriole
-18°
short snow
okay this is worse then before i guss, the lemoji is looking a bit weird @crude gyro
green oriole
You should use the same tongue as 😝, so it will match :lemon_tongue:
short snow
it was better earlier i guess, it is that
just tilted
lemme share
or this
which is better
i fixed that tongue
the color is same as
lemon_tongue
i can try this one's eyes
green oriole
Those eyes are great tbh
short snow
which both?
different eyes
can also make a small mouth
which eyes are the best, and is the mouth needed
accordingly i will make the best one
crude gyro
@green oriole yeah I think that looks like it's pretty close.
green mesa
2nd one is weired
green oriole
Okay, will try to do that either tomorrow or this weekend
crude gyro
the second one us super weird because
a) are they biting their tongue?
b) it makes no sense that the tongue "cuts off" at the mouth if the mouth is open
short snow
which is the best eyes?
ah yes
there is no need of open mouth, only smile is enough?
which should i chooe, lemme remove that thing
crude gyro
the first one is better
short snow
okh should i put the png here to get better view?
green oriole
The middle of the tongue ain't aligned
stable mountainBOT
Hey @short snow!
short snow
ah wrong file
stable mountainBOT
Hey @short snow!
green mesa
2nd one tongue looks weired
green oriole
The middle of the tongue is still not aligned
green mesa
u can shift tongue of 1st one to left little bit
crude gyro
I think the first one might be a little too zoomed out. and maybe a tiny bit too straight.
by the way @green oriole and @short snow, I've just merged https://github.com/python-discord/branding/pull/59 into master and it would be great if you guys used this as your base lemon
symmetry is nice
green oriole
Sure, will do
crude gyro
big thanks to @thorny obsidian for making it
crude gyro
no you didn't? that beard isn't symmetrical
short snow
ah yes, lemme put it back
is this better
woah i like this one
should i take the eyes bit to the right, or let it be
🤓 🤩 🤯 my next tasks
patent pivot
maybe we should make snekmoji as well
green oriole
Lemons are cooler tbf
short snow
maybe we should make snekmoji as well
@patent pivot okay, how is the 😋 lemoji
patent pivot
I'm not an emoji connoisseur so I can't comment
Lemons are cooler tbf
they are, but I wonder whether as a python server we should have some more python related emotes
short snow
okay i need a template for that, then i will make them
green oriole
What if... unh.... we pretend that the lemon is a new kind of snake?
patent pivot
I'm not saying this is certain, it's more an idea to start discussion. There is no need to work on it.
green oriole
We could make could snake emojis though, yeah
short snow
hmm
green oriole
We could use a snake looking like the arcade logo and go some variations
empty sluice
@crude gyro Did you add the lemonsaurus?
empty sluice
I wanted to remake it using the new lemojis that @kutiekatj9 added.
crude gyro
@empty sluice I will, I'm just a bit busy with work stuff today
gonna do it now
there.
green oriole
Are we going to get a #changelog entry for the new emojis?
empty sluice
short snow
okay the nerd doesn't look good on lemon
||maybe cuz lemon is not a nerd, but is a dinosaur ||
green mesa
@gusty sonnet can I work on different issue as u have approved the wiki command?
gusty sonnet
You definitely can, you can comment on issues you want to work on, and a dev core can assign it to you
Be prepared to address changes from the 2nd approver if need be for the wiki command though
green mesa
I have commented already
But still haven't got assigned
Let me send the issue number here
.issue 414
eternal owl
https://github.com/python-discord/site/pull/378
there are a few conflicts with my PR, I am not sure how to resolve the pipenv.lock file conflict, can anyone help me with that?
Should I just copy-paste the version of pipfile.lock which I have ?
green mesa
@slender peak umm can u elaborate more what changes u wnt to do?
Do u wnt to start bot?
slender peak
like i want to create a bot like this server has
that help sections and all
for that what changes should i do in the https://github.com/python-discord/bot code
green mesa
Bot repo is so big it's hard to tell
I only know about seasonal bot
As I am working on that only😅
slender peak
😦
C:\Users\yaswa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38-32\python.exe C:/Users/yaswa/Documents/Projects/python/bot/bot/__init__.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:/Users/yaswa/Documents/Projects/python/bot/bot/__init__.py", line 12, in <module>
from bot.command import Command
File "C:\Users\yaswa\Documents\Projects\python\bot\bot\bot.py", line 15, in <module>
from bot import DEBUG_MODE, api, constants
ImportError: cannot import name 'DEBUG_MODE' from partially initialized module 'bot' (most likely due to a circular import) (C:\Users\yaswa\Documents\Projects\python\bot\bot\bot.py)
Process finished with exit code 1
```this is what i get when i run `__init__.py`Have u looked at our contribution page
It has link which u can check to get the bot running
slender peak
slender peak
do we need site too?
slender peak
Follow the linked guide only if you don't want to use Docker or if you plan to do development on the site project too. so what this means?
slender peak
are these 4 must?
tawdry vapor
Do you still need that statement explained regarding the linked guide?
slender peak
i have skipped the docker and site
tawdry vapor
Look at the required column. It tells you when it's a must. So if it says "reddit cog", it means it's required by the reddit cog. If you want the reddit cog to work, you need an API key. If not, then you can ignore it.
slender peak
okie
i will check and let you know
😉
Mr @tawdry vapor can you help me running it
tawdry vapor
Maybe. If you have a question, then just ask.
slender peak
i have errors
tawdry vapor
However, I'm not going to be online for too long so someone else may have to get back to you.
slender peak
can we join in voice chat?
tawdry vapor
Okay
slender peak
eternal owl
clever wraith
Idk I did c# for 2+ years but python for 1/2 year no I can’t answer any python related questions c# I can all day
brazen charm
You can resolve it manually by locking again, bringing deps to the pipfile if necessary
eternal owl
i basically uninstalled a package and that caused the conflict, i had to even manually relock before
what if i copy my version of pipfile.lock
brazen charm
If the other pipfile didn't have new deps locked and yours isn't outdated then it should be fine
eternal owl
okay, ill try
done
looks like some stuff got faked up
i should have pulled from upstream first 🤦
if i want to get rid of the previous commit completly, do i git reset --hard <sha1-commit-id> and then git push origin HEAD --force? is this correct?
as if that commit never happened
short snow
okay am done with this, any comments
eternal owl
maybe remove the ccenter line on the tongue?
crude gyro
it's still not using the symmetrical base
short snow
i sent the wrong one
green oriole
Bad squishie
short snow
this?
it uses the symettical base
i checked the symmetry it looks nice
okay i tried nerd on lemoji it looks too bad
now is it okay, or anything still left?
how is this? :lemon_mask:
short snow
okie,
hmmmm, would be kinda hard, can you share its svg version
😷 i got the up from this
lemon mask in white
hmmmm, would be kinda hard, can you share its svg version
@green mesa
@crude gyro how are they now?
crude gyro
putting the lemon on the mask just looks weird to me.
obsidian patio
The lemon on the mask won’t really be visible when it’s the size of an emoji. Maybe keep it simple
short snow
ok
putting the lemon on the mask just looks weird to me.
@crude gyro is the:lemon_yum:ok?
which color mask?
crude gyro
the other one looks better with symmetrical base - I think all that's left is to find the right crop and rotation.
short snow
ok, rotation howmuch
crude gyro
probably not too much.
obsidian patio
The mouth could also use a darker color, like in many of the other lemojis
crude gyro
more like the former, yeah.
and yes, what vest said
needs darker mouth
matching the others.
short snow
okie, and what about the mask color
obsidian patio
I’m starting to consider that we should have a #lemoji-contrib chat as well, to not span this one. At least while it’s being discussed this much
short snow
The mouth could also use a darker color, like in many of the other lemojis
@obsidian patio what RGBA?
obsidian patio
Open one of the other SVGs and get the value there
short snow
CURRENT
crude gyro
I’m starting to consider that we should have a #lemoji-contrib chat as well, to not span this one. At least while it’s being discussed this much
@obsidian patio
you make a fair point. at least something like #dev-graphics might be worth considering. <@&267628507062992896> what do you guys think?
hardy gorge
I don't mind it
short snow
!agree (even tho i am not a admin )
crude gyro
we do other kinds of graphics too, I mean.
hardy gorge
I'm also not sure how much continuous use it will see, but we can evaluate that later
We still want branding and stuff
short snow
it would be kinda noice
and will keep this place clean
ok lemon do you know inkscape?
crude gyro
not really, I use illustrator.
crude gyro
rotation looks fine. zooming in a tiny bit might be good, yeah.
short snow
it would go out then, if more zoom
crude gyro
?
obsidian patio
The eyes seem to be a bit far up and the mouth is a bit oddly rotated, I’d say. Could you try tilting the head more like 45 degrees as well? Would be interesting to see how that looks
obsidian patio
Maybe move the mouth down a bit as well
short snow
then it won't match the other emojis
in this emoji the mouth is up, so i just the same distance
obsidian patio
Could work, but I think having a bit more space from the top of the beard could be cool
Either way, how would it look at a -45 degree angle?
crude gyro
ok croped it and set the zoom, rotation and color
@short snow
What do you mean you set the zoom. The entire lemon is still in the frame
look at this
the yum is tiny
because the zoom isn't right
and it looks like Vestergurkan has a point about the mouth being too far up.
obsidian patio
I think it may need some more rotation
short snow
i tried to get the mouth down but then the lips go out, and if i move the lips it doesn't look that goood
I think it may need some more rotation
@obsidian patio ok
now?
short snow
@obsidian patio nah, it is going out
i would need to reduce the lip sinze then
@crude gyro is that okay, the above picture?
obsidian patio
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/753164217560989776 this one looks a bit skewed to me 🤔
obsidian patio
More like this
obsidian patio
To me, it looks like the icon was skewed, as well as rotated. On the example to the right that I sent, this is what such a skew + rotate could look like
short snow
oh sorry
crude gyro
that looks better, yes.
crude gyro
for the least tilted yum. yeah.
but hm
when comparing it to the sweat one, the eyes are a bit high up
short snow
ah yes lemme fix that
crude gyro
they're also much larger
so is the mouth, I think
maybe you can try to get the proportions more similar
crude gyro
that looks weird.
tranquil topaz
I do not mind it at all, name aside, as long as it has to do with all the branding type of contributions I'm fine with it. Do not have to future proof the name of we agree what it's for
short snow
need to get a tutorial for that, making the mouth shorter is just messing it up
crude gyro
animated icons for the community
short snow
i will do it later and then post it (if i could)
crude gyro
messing it up?
I'm worried how your vector looks if you can't simply resize the mouth
short snow
when i tried to make the smile small, it got weird
so i think the current one is good
crude gyro
weird how
obsidian patio
I think we need a 😉 lemoji as well. The 
doesn’t always quite fit
short snow
lemme me try that later
green mesa
We need some python emojies also
short snow
that is kinda difficult to do, but lemme try that later
green oriole
I wanted to do a winky lemon, but I ran out of time haha
obsidian patio
Yep, kind of
short snow
hmmm, i will make 3 lemojis then put a pr (:lemon_mask:, :lemon_wink:, :lemon_yum:)
hardy gorge
Most of the lemoji we have are at a greater angle compared to the vertical access, right?
If you consider the midline, they are nearly diagonal
green oriole
They actually are diagonal, yeah
crude gyro
I don't want every single lemoji to be diagonal, though
and 
are two of my favorites, and they don't have that 45 degree angle
I think the rotation should be whatever makes sense for the specific thing you're trying to convey
short snow
and are two of my favourites, the lemon pika is icon of my test server
crude gyro
looks like you're using the wrong base lemon for the wink again, jason.
short snow
arghhh, yes
will put all three here tomorrow, now gotta go, kinda busy
just onething how should the mask be?
anything on the mask, and which color
obsidian patio
Here we have the exploding head lemoji
green oriole
Lol, he looks silly
obsidian patio
@green oriole The exploding one?
And here it is as used in a conversation (updated mouth color to the dark one)
green oriole
Yeah, he looks silly, I like it haha
hardy gorge
🍋
short snow
i was making that, 😦
ok i will still make one and then share
can u share the svg file
stable mountainBOT
glass pecan
indeed
short snow
not that, the exploding head one
glass pecan
oh lol
green oriole
I like how the character name is just LEMON
glass pecan
well what else would they call it lol
green oriole
LEMON_EMOJI or whatever I dunno
obsidian patio
I made that one a week or two back. Just haven't pushed it yet, Jason
glass pecan
is your question relevant to a specific pydis project? they've moved to ot
gusty sonnet
It can be powerful, and is often used to write bots for popular MMO, but yes, this is indeed not the channel for that.
obsidian patio
@crude gyro any opinions on this before I open a PR? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635950537262759947/753229188139319366/unknown.png
obsidian patio
You can find it as a larger image earlier in the chat as well
That’s odd. I’ll look into that
crude gyro
otherwise is looks okay
obsidian patio
What could make it go from ok to good?
mellow hare
Just hopped on, is this going to be for any artwork submitted for us to use or just lemoji in general
crude gyro
I think my main problem with it is that there's no green, so it's hard to recognize it as a lemoji, but I don't know how to solve that
I think it's probably as good as it gets
mellow hare
Maybe a piece of leaf flying off to the side?
obsidian patio
Yeah, I agree about that
crude gyro
maybe, but I feel like maybe that would just add noise.
mellow hare
True
crude gyro
like, not sure how legible it would be at tiny emoji sizes
obsidian patio
That’s an interesting idea, but I think lemon is right about the noise
crude gyro
also the shape of the head just ends up looking a lot like a yellow strawberry
...dipped in chocolate
obsidian patio
Hahahah right!!
crude gyro
anyway, I don't have any idea how you can solve any of that, so I'm not giving super useful feedback
not even sure it's solvable
mellow hare
I think it might still be possible to add the leaves on part of the head, like maybe the one that lays closer on it
Or have it like... blown upwards but still connected?
obsidian patio
I can’t think of any solution to that. This may be the best it gets
crude gyro
hmm.. blown upwards but still connected is interesting.
mellow hare
So it's like a hinged jar or something
obsidian patio
Interesting... It would get quite tall, though
mellow hare
Fair
obsidian patio
Maybe we could rotate it a full 90 degrees and have it wide
mellow hare
With connecting steam pieces
obsidian patio
How are the width restrictions? Is a square the best it gets?
mellow hare
Wait
Have it vertical, have the steam be a separate piece and the little leaves as their own piece
Like those connecting emoji
obsidian patio
3 emojis to use one emoji??
mellow hare
To denote when he's REAL mad
crude gyro
I think we can probably merge this and someone else can work on fun connecting emoji
mellow hare
Fair
crude gyro
you know, the connecting emoji we really need is a longbeard one
mellow hare
Very true
obsidian patio
Hahahaha yess
mellow hare
I'm honestly surprised that hasn't been made yet
crude gyro
this except with tiles for every direction
obsidian patio
I could give it a shot
obsidian patio
And we’d have a face, beard and beard end
mellow hare
Then someone could use those emoji to make a pipe dreams style command for @dusky shore
crude gyro
no, that's the beginner version @obsidian patio
what you want is tiles for 90 degree turns
obsidian patio
I see where this is going
That would be awesome, but take a lot of slots for the emojis
mellow hare
We've got tons left, I thought
obsidian patio
Yeah, we do
Just imagine how it would look on the PyDis emojis when scrolling through
:beard_left: :beard_top_right_turn: ...
stable mountainBOT
:ok_hand: Added lemon’s-beard-comb to the names list.
obsidian patio
Hahahaha
mellow hare
It's actually just a rake
crude gyro
we have 133 emoji slots, so I'm not worried
mellow hare
Holy crap
long brook
:lemon’s-beard-comb:
mellow hare
I didn't realize we had that many
crude gyro
and honestly we could remove some emojis to free up even more
mellow hare
I thought we had like... maybe 30 or so extra
crude gyro
well, in a way 30 isn't totally wrong either because we keep losing level 3
and I think we get 100 from that
obsidian patio
I could give this a try soon. Would be nice to see it in action
Nice. There’s 0 space between rows
crude gyro
but some of the emojis we have already are emojis only used by the bot (which could be moved to an emoji server), some old ones that have nothing to do with us, and lots of editor logos, which I don't think really see that much use
if we get a ton of lemojis and ducks and we can't fit them all, I'll replace all those other ones in a heartbeat
mellow hare
Works for me
obsidian patio
Sounds good to me
crude gyro
right now we have 35 boosts so I'm not really even worried about losing level 3
mellow hare
I think the editor emoji are only used during editor wars
crude gyro
anyway, a handful of beard tile emojis won't hurt us
it won't be that many either
you'll need, like.. maybe 7?
mellow hare
4 ends, 4 directions, 4 turns?
thorny obsidian
(shroph is terrifying and should be first on the chopping block >_>)
mellow hare
And the base beard lemon
crude gyro
4 directions?
obsidian patio
We have two options. Either we make them squares that fill up the entire emoji space (emoji slot effective) or we make them a bit more narrow (more emoji slots, but would probably look best)
mellow hare
Only just took my morning meds, that's my excuse
crude gyro
I didn't consider multiple ends, but that would add some flexibility
even just one end would still achieve the goal, though, you'd just always have to lead it down before ending it
obsidian patio
I suppose we’ll have to have 4 heads as well? One for each direction?
mellow hare
I think one base would be solid enough
crude gyro
sounds silly. one is fine, I think.
mellow hare
But yeah, this would play into my pipe dreams idea
obsidian patio
What direction? -90 degrees or straight up?
mellow hare
Essentially it just makes a filled out like... 5x5 grid of lemon and beard
obsidian patio
!ot a hemlock’s pipe dreams
obsidian patio
Hahahahaha
obsidian patio
I like them both
mellow hare
You guys can always rely on me for goofy ideas
I think beard garden is growing on me more
The more I think about it the more I giggle
stable mountainBOT
:ok_hand: Added hemlock’s-beard-garden to the names list.